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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 3: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

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Speaker 1: Christ is King and Charlie's sacrifice has given us all.

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Speaker 1: And I see it in your eyes. I see it

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Speaker 1: in the eyes of every man, woman and child who

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Speaker 1: has come to me since this unspeakable evil happens.

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Speaker 4: We have it now. Charlie gave it to us.

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Speaker 5: He gave us that last bit of courage, that last

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Speaker 5: bit of fight, that last bit of grit, and resolved.

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Speaker 5: The United States of America.

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Speaker 6: Will endure for Charlie.

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Speaker 5: We will continue the mission for Charlie. We will end

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Speaker 5: the evil disease that split us and took Charlie from us.

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Speaker 5: And for Charlie Turning Point USA will last forever, and

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Speaker 5: we will come to find.

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Speaker 1: We will come to find that in the final moment,

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Speaker 1: that Western civilization.

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Speaker 5: Was saved through Charlie's sacrifice in the only way possible,

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Speaker 5: by returning the.

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Speaker 7: People to Almighty God.

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Speaker 5: For greater love hath no man than this than he

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Speaker 5: who laid down his life for his friends. Are you

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Speaker 5: ready to continue the mission? Are you ready to fight back?

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Speaker 5: And are you ready to put on the full armor

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Speaker 5: of God and face the evil in high places and

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Speaker 5: the spiritual warfare before us.

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Speaker 8: That put on the full armor of God.

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Speaker 4: Do it now?

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Speaker 8: Now is the time, this.

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Speaker 6: Is the place.

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Speaker 8: This is the turning point for Charlie.

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Speaker 6: God blessed to all of you.

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Speaker 7: God blessed to everyone, to Charlie's family, to all the families,

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Speaker 7: and Charlie. Till we meet again, brother, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 7: Welcome onboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are

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Speaker 7: here live in Phoenix, Arizona, Charlie Kirk's studio. Today is

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Speaker 7: September twenty second, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Anno Domini. Yesterday we held a memorial for Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Charlie was my friend, Charlie was my brother. Charlie was

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Speaker 1: my commanding officer. When a unit loses its commanding officer,

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Speaker 1: duty and honor must be upheld for him. But also

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Speaker 1: justice must be done. And that justice began with the

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Speaker 1: pull of a trigger. It leads to video, leads to

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Speaker 1: evidence eyewitnesses, and then leads to try it then leads

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Speaker 1: to sentencing. And there have been many times already today

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Speaker 1: where people ask me, but Jack, as a Christian, are

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Speaker 1: we not called to forgive? Should we not then forgive

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Speaker 1: and let bygones be bygones? It's not how it works,

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Speaker 1: and I see a lot of people misunderstanding the Bible

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Speaker 1: is teaching on this misunderstanding what Charlie said about this

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Speaker 1: misunderstanding so much of our Christian duty. Here there is

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Speaker 1: a difference between the personal and the public. You have

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Speaker 1: a personal duty to seek forgiveness you do. God will

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Speaker 1: only forgive upon repentance. God only forgives upon repentance. You

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Speaker 1: are also not required to forgive if there is no repentance,

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Speaker 1: But we.

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Speaker 4: Are asked to.

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Speaker 1: The public authority, on the other hand, has a different

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Speaker 1: legitimate public authority has the right and duty to inflict

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Speaker 1: punishment proportionate to the gravity of the offense. Proportionate to

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Speaker 1: the gravity of the offense. What could be more proportionate?

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Speaker 1: What would require more proportionality than an attack on our

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Speaker 1: very way of life, an attack on our civilization, an

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Speaker 1: attack on who we are. War has been waged against

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Speaker 1: society by evildoers, by those who deny our right to exist,

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Speaker 1: to exist, to oppress us. This cannot be allowed, This

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Speaker 1: and prevent future instances of this is the ultimate punishment,

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Speaker 1: the capital punishment. And this is what Charlie supported. This

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Speaker 4: Are Breakback.

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Speaker 9: Believe in putting criminals in jail right? Yes, because you

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Speaker 9: believe stating criminals in jail right, yes, which is a

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Speaker 9: taking of their rights, their life, their whole life is

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Speaker 9: completely changed. So I guess it's also an insult to

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Speaker 9: the victim, isn't it saying that your life doesn't matter

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Speaker 9: so much that your murderer can keep on living, but you,

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Speaker 9: victim or the victims. Actually, in a lot of times,

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Speaker 9: God repeated in all five books of the Torah, you

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Speaker 9: take a life, your life will be taken. To the

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Speaker 9: consistency argument, if there is a baby here, you know

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Speaker 9: we value human life so much that you don't get

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Speaker 9: to keep on living if you take a precious human life.

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Speaker 9: It's actually an explicitly pro life position because it's honoring

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Speaker 6: It doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 9: Go put him in a jail where we say, no,

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Speaker 9: that's a life you took, and you don't get to

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Speaker 1: Tovik, we are back live human events daily. We're in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Almost almost went with my normal but you know, we

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Speaker 1: are not living in normal times here, and we were

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Speaker 1: in the Charlie Kirk studio. Charlie Kirk's seat remains empty

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Speaker 1: as Charlie is on assignment with the Lord. I wanted

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Speaker 1: And he said, the death penalty is an explicitly pro

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Speaker 4: And so for a lot of people out there, they'll.

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Speaker 1: Say, well, life is the opposite of death, So how

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Speaker 4: Can you impact what he's getting at there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he was saying there is like it's almost

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Speaker 3: it's disrespectful to a victim to say, like you can

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Speaker 3: take life endlessly without consequence that you're basically saying. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're sort of a terrific compensatory thing to reflect like

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Speaker 3: That is sending the message that a life take and

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Speaker 4: A harm, is it. So it's about the value of

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's basically saying that society should have

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Speaker 1: So because I hear this a lot when people tell you,

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Speaker 4: Oh well, the Bible says welcome the stranger, and your

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Speaker 3: It's that meme we've all seen where it's just like,

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Speaker 4: No, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: We're coming up on a break here, but we're digging

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Speaker 4: But no, no, I.

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Speaker 4: Jack Rosovic, Blake Nef, Human Events Daily, Real Americus Voice.

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Speaker 4: Why she.

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Speaker 1: I Okay, Jack Pacibic, we are back. We're live here

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona, Charlie Kirk Studio. We're here with Blake Nef,

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Nick?

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Speaker 10: I appreciate you having me Jack.

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Speaker 4: Good to have you here, very good to have you.

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Speaker 4: You belong here, Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Charlie is a huge fan of yours and your work,

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Speaker 1: and whenever you were doing something, he'd be like, get

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Speaker 4: He would use one of the reasons.

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Speaker 11: That he's Palastine is on the map because of the

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Speaker 10: So, you know, those people are very fitting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, talk about talk about a story that just

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Speaker 11: Because the mainstream media just didn't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 11: So you know, people like Charlie Kirk, I didn't have

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Speaker 11: I get there, it's about six hours from my house.

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Speaker 1: So so we go through all that you've been on

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Speaker 1: You got the attention of X and the new management

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Speaker 4: Just tell us a little bit about your day with Elon. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: That wasn't pre planned. It was not I thought you

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Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, he just he showed up and he

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Speaker 1: The time with Trump and Elon. He said, if there's

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Speaker 11: I've seen him at events before where you know, he's

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Speaker 11: was so powerful. I believe it was related to the

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Speaker 11: armor of God.

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Speaker 10: I think that's what well I said.

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Speaker 1: I said, we need to put on full armor of God.

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Speaker 1: We need to do it now. We need to do

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Speaker 1: it for Charlie. And and we know that when the

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Speaker 1: histories are written, Charlie's sacrifice will have saved the West

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Speaker 1: by the only means possible, by returning the people to God.

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Speaker 11: And he stood up first out of anybody in the section.

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Speaker 11: He stood up and he clapp for it. That's why

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Speaker 11: I was so excited. I wanted to tell you, that's

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Speaker 11: so bad that I almost like in your I texted

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Speaker 11: you almost immediately was like all in capital letters. I

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Speaker 11: was so excited for that because that's when I knew.

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Speaker 11: I was like, oh my God, it's finally hit. Elon

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Speaker 11: is famously not a very religious person.

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Speaker 4: No, he's not.

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Speaker 1: And and the fact of the matter is that and

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Speaker 1: and you know, obviously thank you to Elon for doing that.

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Speaker 1: But but it's it's not just what I said, it's

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Speaker 1: it was the whole event.

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Speaker 4: The whole event was.

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Speaker 1: Uh and is now being criticized for and attacked for

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Speaker 1: for being very just overtly Christian, overtly Christian, overtly godly

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Speaker 1: because you know.

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Speaker 3: What, that's Charlie Christian memorial service held for overtly Christian man.

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Speaker 4: Who could believe it? Who could believe it?

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Speaker 1: But then you know, even having but you would see

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Speaker 1: I could see that, you know. And Elon is always

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Speaker 1: he's he's always kind of like on the edge of

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Speaker 1: whatever is going on on the you know, the zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: of whatever the zeitgeist is, and the zeitgeist has been

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Speaker 1: this sort of return to I guess you could call

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Speaker 1: it public religiosity and the use of and embrace of

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Speaker 1: religion in the public square. And you can't know, no

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Speaker 1: one looking at Charlie's extraordinary body of work, ken deny

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Speaker 1: that that's explicitly what Charlie was.

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Speaker 3: Doing I mean, Blake, you worked with him on these No, No,

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Speaker 3: it was so core to his mission, and it's exactly like,

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Speaker 3: first of all, it's also what his events often were

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Speaker 3: and left in a more scaled back sense, but he

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Speaker 3: always wanted it to be a bigger and bigger thing.

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Speaker 3: He was always a witness to his faith in a

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Speaker 3: very public way, and that is clearly why we had

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Speaker 3: this incredible global outpouring reaction. If Charlie had purely been

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Speaker 3: a politics sky, there would have been a lot of shock,

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Speaker 3: there would have been a lot of reaction, But it

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Speaker 3: was the fact that he was simultaneously a Christian witness,

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Speaker 3: so open and proud about it.

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Speaker 1: I say, I was on some show yesterday. I said

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Speaker 1: that this was Charlie's Like, this was Charlie's forty chest.

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Speaker 4: He said, Oh, guys, come on, it's just a political debate,

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Speaker 4: just a political debate. And then you come there and he's.

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Speaker 1: Like bam Gospel bam, bam, Corinthians bam, Old Testament, and

497
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Speaker 1: you're like, wait, what's this guy doing. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: this is a sermon politics, this is Christianity.

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Speaker 11: Well, Charlie, honestly, in my opinion, he made being a

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Speaker 11: Christian cool again. Yeah, right, No, I went to Catholic

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Speaker 11: schools growing up, right, But even then.

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Speaker 10: Being overtly.

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Speaker 11: Religious in school was something that you'ld end up getting

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Speaker 11: made fun of.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't always take. It doesn't know his take.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the college kids like and that's changing, that's

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Speaker 1: totally changing. We're coming up on a on a quick break.

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Speaker 1: But Nick, I just want to say, I just want

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Speaker 1: to say thank you man. That was that was really

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Speaker 1: cool and and I appreciate you doing that.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely one of the best speeches of the day, if

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Speaker 11: not the best.

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Speaker 4: Erica.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we can't say, yeah, I was just perfect,

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Speaker 1: I mean beyond perfect.

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Speaker 4: Words do not describe right. Back Human Events.

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Speaker 5: Daily, my sad.

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Speaker 1: Jack Prosobic Back live Human Events Daily, Phoenix, Arizona. We're

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Speaker 1: on with Nick Sordor and my good friend Cliff Maloney. Cliff,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we've ever been on in this

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Speaker 1: studio before physically, even though we were on this is

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Speaker 1: right where I think I was actually sitting in that

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Speaker 1: chair on the election stream and Blake was sitting in

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Speaker 1: this chair, and of course Charlie sits in Charlie's chair,

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Speaker 1: which will remain open, and this is where we were

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Speaker 1: on election night.

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Speaker 4: Man, that's right, we were at the Tasty Cake was

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Speaker 4: right here.

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Speaker 6: I can't confirm that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I was telling the story on Charlie Show earlier,

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Speaker 12: you know, because we were we played the clip and

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Speaker 12: you know, I tell people that I got lucky because

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Speaker 12: you guys were all here.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 12: So when Erica comes in, right and she hugs Charlie,

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Speaker 12: you know, you guys have to react because you're in

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Speaker 12: the room, you know, with her. Well, we know, what's

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Speaker 12: the one thing we can't have during any live show,

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Speaker 12: no one's speaking, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was technical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a It is a It is a

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Speaker 1: you know, a rule of broadcasting that you need some

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Speaker 1: kind of filler. But it's awkward when you're there because

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Speaker 1: like hugging him, dudes, like, dude's ballin' right.

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Speaker 12: So I could deal with the awkwardness from not being there, right,

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Speaker 12: And so yeah, let me kind of give that little

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Speaker 12: little remember this moment, mon Taj, And of course we

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Speaker 12: all will remember that moment.

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Speaker 1: And so so tell me, tell me what your reflections

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Speaker 1: were on you know, you went through that. We had

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Speaker 1: the memorial yesterday which became and I'll just say this backstage,

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Speaker 1: I said to Uh, I'll just say another one of

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Speaker 1: the speakers and not kind of name names, but uh,

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Speaker 1: someone whose speech we all saw. And I said to him,

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, what's crazy, not or or or

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Speaker 1: perhaps fitting? I should say, what's actually what's fitting? They're

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Speaker 1: not cheering for the political stuff. They're cheering for the spiritual.

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Speaker 1: This crowd they don't want politics, they want the real stuff.

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Speaker 1: They want the real stuff. Have you ever seen anything

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Speaker 1: like that before?

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Speaker 12: No, And I don't think we will understand the gravity

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Speaker 12: of the situation, especially us that knew Charlie, but anybody

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Speaker 12: out there that's trying to analyze this from the political

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Speaker 12: or the spiritual realm, the gravity of the situation. I

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Speaker 12: think it's going to take probably five to ten years

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Speaker 12: to really understand how much of an impact this is

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Speaker 12: going to have. No, and Jack, look, I don't talk

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Speaker 12: about my faith often. I probably should talk about it more.

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Speaker 12: I agree with what jade Van said. You know, I

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Speaker 12: think in the last twelve days I've talked more about

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Speaker 12: Jesus Christ than I have in probably twenty years. So

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Speaker 12: I think my reflection on it is it was an

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Speaker 12: event that people to be there was truly life changing

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Speaker 12: for those that watch it on the stream. I mean,

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Speaker 12: you're right, it wasn't politics. It was talking about good

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Speaker 12: versus evil. The event was talking about taking a thirty

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Speaker 12: one year old's life for one and just to be

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Speaker 12: able to speak freely. So to me, I think being

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Speaker 12: in that worship ceremony or setting, I think that there

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Speaker 12: were more people that probably came to Christ yesterday during

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Speaker 12: one of the pastor speeches than probably any other live

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Speaker 12: stream or event I might say.

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Speaker 6: In the history of the world.

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Speaker 11: It was contagious yesterday. The environment, the atmosphere that along

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Speaker 11: with the speeches, and people were intently listening to this stuff.

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Speaker 11: And even me, like I'm not a particularly religious person either,

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Speaker 11: and I'm one hundred percent convinced that the Holy Spirit

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Speaker 11: was in the room. You could feel it. It was

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Speaker 11: just an incredible feeling. And I hope that you know,

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Speaker 11: keep considering there were what how many people ended up

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Speaker 11: in the arena seventy thousand at full capacity, It.

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Speaker 1: Was about seventy in that arena and then another I

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Speaker 1: think fifty The overflow. The overflow for this event was

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Speaker 1: not the parking lot. It was the arena across the arena,

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Speaker 1: which was also filled to the brims with no speakers,

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Speaker 1: but they had it on the you know, the the JumboTron.

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Speaker 1: They had those speakers and they said and every seat

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Speaker 1: was filled there too, And.

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Speaker 11: It was wall to wall coverage on the networks, even

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Speaker 11: MSNBC carrying it live without commercial break, CNN doing it,

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Speaker 11: which is mind blowing.

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Speaker 10: You know, they were broadcasting I kind of me.

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Speaker 1: I kind of love the idea that the media had

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Speaker 1: to actually listen to the gospel.

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Speaker 11: Yes, and they had to give it to their you know,

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Speaker 11: the the evil demons and to this stuff demons demons writhing, screaming,

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Speaker 11: throwing up, but they're losing the plot, man, They totally totally.

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Speaker 11: And that was one of the things that they were

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Speaker 11: desperately trying to do yesterday was downplay it. They were

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Speaker 11: trying to criticize the fact that so many people were

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Speaker 11: coming together and not just crying in unison and surrendering

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Speaker 11: by cowering down.

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Speaker 10: To these people. We were It was a revival.

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Speaker 11: I know we've said it fifty times, but that's exactly

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Speaker 11: what it would be.

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Speaker 10: It was a celebration.

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Speaker 4: I would be remiss if I didn't mention this.

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Speaker 1: And as as any rush Limbaugh fan would know that

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Speaker 1: if Rush were alive today, he would be spending his

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Speaker 1: entire show comparing this to the Wellstone Memorial when the

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Speaker 1: Democrats got up there and spent the entire day politics,

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Speaker 1: all politics, demonizing, attacking, and just just totally off the rails,

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Speaker 1: people giving like crazy long speeches and just absolute absurdism.

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Speaker 1: Whereas this, and by the way, just so people you

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Speaker 1: know a little bit behind the scenes, I guess that

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Speaker 1: I have a single person, you know, come to me

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is what we want you to hit.

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Speaker 1: You know, we want you to you know, keep it

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Speaker 1: focused on this, none of that, none of that, and

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Speaker 1: have a single parson. There were there was no notes.

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Speaker 4: There were no I mean I kind of like, I can't.

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Speaker 4: I kind of sent some like talking.

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Speaker 1: Points like hey, this is what I'm thinking about doing,

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Speaker 1: and they was like looks good, and that was it.

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Speaker 4: But that I wrote that, you know, and.

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Speaker 10: I mean you know that, like this is all from

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Speaker 10: the heart.

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Speaker 4: So we all did that without coordinating.

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Speaker 6: And that's what Charlie would have wanted, you know, this

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Speaker 6: from doing.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a normal turning points to It's one of the.

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Speaker 12: Only events where I come and I'm like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 12: are there certain things you do want me to talk about?

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Speaker 12: Don't mean to talk about uh no, uh we love

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Speaker 12: your work, Cliff. Come and talk to our people about

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Speaker 12: the work you're.

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Speaker 6: Doing, talk about our partners, Charlie. There's always whatever you

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Speaker 6: want to do. The floor is yours. And I think

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Speaker 6: that those speeches.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely, I definitely pushed Charlie's limits a little

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Speaker 1: bit on.

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Speaker 4: That from time and time.

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Speaker 1: Certain certain pink hat fiasco that a couple of a

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Speaker 1: little while back, which is totally right, by the way,

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Speaker 1: nothing nothing was wrong on those hats, but no.

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Speaker 4: It it it was.

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Speaker 1: It was touching beyond words.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I kind of want to I don't know, if it

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Speaker 1: came across in on television, I'd love to talk to

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Speaker 1: somebody who, you know, who wasn't there in the room.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get the sense, you know, I get

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Speaker 1: the sense from just what I'm hearing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: friends and folks back home that I've talked to and

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Speaker 1: endless text messages that that it did, you know, but

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Speaker 1: I in that room, it's it was palpable. It was

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Speaker 1: absolutely palpable. And you know, I had the question of

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Speaker 1: whether or not. I wanted to bring my boys there, Jack,

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Speaker 1: Jack and aj they're seven and four. They knew Uncle Charlie,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's kind of one of those

671
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Speaker 1: questions like like do you want kids at a funeeral

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Speaker 1: sort of thing? And I said, you know what, I

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Speaker 1: want them there. I want them there, and shout out

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Speaker 1: to Tanya Tay for bringing them and just being with them.

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Speaker 1: And they were great, you know, very well, behaved all day.

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Speaker 1: But you need that because at the end of the

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Speaker 1: day we're turning this over to them at some point.

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Speaker 11: Well, when it comes to watching these things, this is

679
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Speaker 11: a long event, right, I mean when when did it start?

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Speaker 1: Like eleven the whole thing, I think, I think the

681
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Speaker 1: actual if you look at the Turning Point stream, it's

682
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Speaker 1: like nine hours.

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Speaker 11: Right, And the audience, if you look at the retention graph,

684
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Speaker 11: it just it's not like it drops off.

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Speaker 10: It continues constant.

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Speaker 11: But it's such a The Turning Point production team is

687
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 11: freaking incredible when it comes to making this stuff. I'm

688
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 11: watching the clips back even as I'm there, seeing as

689
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Speaker 11: people are are talking and they you get the reaction

690
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 11: from the crowd that the broadcasting lie. They had cameras

691
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Speaker 11: all over the place. That really hit the message home.

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Speaker 11: You're not just hearing the applause, you're seeing it. You're

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Speaker 11: seeing close ups of people crying, and people at home

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Speaker 11: were able to connect with that. I've been talking to

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Speaker 11: people like even my mom that that watched it, and

696
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Speaker 11: that's the reaction that she had to it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think there were first and foremost,

698
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Speaker 12: there was the reaction when you first walked in.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure we all had the same exact experience.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it hit me hard walking in that room

701
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Speaker 12: and I got there right about when the like when

702
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Speaker 12: the first warship was starting, and you know, to me,

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Speaker 12: I mean especially being on the floor and just kind

704
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Speaker 12: of looking around.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was just it was wild.

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Speaker 12: And then the most emotional moment for me was Jack,

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Speaker 12: your speech was great, but I'm gonna I'm gonna trumpet

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Speaker 12: a little bit.

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Speaker 4: With Erica's speech, and Erica's speech is the best, and it.

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Speaker 6: Just I just couldn't hold back. And I'm not a an.

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Speaker 12: Easy crier, you know, the type of guy, and just

712
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Speaker 12: when she came out, like before she even spoke, it

713
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Speaker 12: just became real for me and everybody kind of has.

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Speaker 4: That Oh you mean that there was that.

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Speaker 1: Moment before she got to the microphone, yes, where it

716
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Speaker 1: looked like she was praying, because she kind of had

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Speaker 1: her head down a little bit, and then she says,

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Speaker 1: I love you, and it was like a prayer that

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Speaker 1: turned into a message to Charlie. Yes, yeah, And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you can watch something like that

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Speaker 1: and not not be moved.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Even even even Milo Ianopolis tweeted, he said, he said,

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Speaker 1: that's the second time I've cried this year.

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Speaker 11: I don't see President Trump being an emotional guy either,

726
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Speaker 11: and he doesn't put on that public face. But the

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Speaker 11: way that he called her up on stage and embraced

728
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Speaker 11: her at the end, that was making me tear up

729
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Speaker 11: for sure. I mean you could tell how much that

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Speaker 11: meant to her, how much that meant to Erica in

731
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Speaker 11: that moment. And Trump stood up there for what you know,

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Speaker 11: three four minutes with her, just her and.

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Speaker 6: Almost felt like she was a granddaughter to him. It's

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Speaker 6: kind of how I took that.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, it's it's it's it's it's family, right,

736
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Speaker 1: you know, Charlie was I mean, yeah, and even Don

737
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Speaker 1: said it.

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Speaker 4: He's like Charlie was like my little brother.

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Speaker 1: And I think you could see it in Trump's face

740
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Speaker 1: on when he was at that nine eleven memorial. Here's

741
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Speaker 1: a man who was in New York on nine to eleven,

742
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Speaker 1: watched the towers fall from Trump Tower, went down to

743
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Speaker 1: ground zero a couple of days later, and he's at

744
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Speaker 1: that memorial, but he.

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Speaker 4: Also himself just lost his son. Like that was the

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Speaker 4: face of a man who just lost his son.

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Speaker 1: Cliff, Nick, thank you so much for being here. Thank

748
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Speaker 1: you so much for speaking for Charlie, for speaking for Erica.

749
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Speaker 1: We got one more segment, Nick, I would think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to switch you out because I got a

751
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Speaker 1: very very special, well constructed guest.

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Speaker 10: Oh yes, thank you man. I appreciate you. Keep up

753
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Speaker 10: your good work.

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Speaker 1: Jack Rosobik back Live Human Events Daily, were here in

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk Studio, Phoenix, Arizona. We got Cliff Maloney

756
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Speaker 1: on who was there at the event yesterday, and we

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Speaker 1: have a well constructed guest that he was in perhaps

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Speaker 1: need of a little reconstruction right now joining us.

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Speaker 4: You guys know him as Bricksuit.

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Speaker 10: We're trying to be a.

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Speaker 4: Little a little incognited today.

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Speaker 1: You know you were you were in full uniform yesterday

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Speaker 1: to honor Charlie, and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Charlie loved you, man. Charlie loved you.

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Speaker 1: He said every time, every time you were coming to

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Speaker 1: an event, if it was turning point, they were like

767
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Speaker 1: right up front and bring him up, bring him up,

768
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Speaker 1: set him up, get him a pass, get him up there.

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Speaker 4: He loved it. He just he really loved you man.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And you know when I was at the vigil on Monday,

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Speaker 13: I was in street clothes too, and I saw Tyler

773
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Speaker 13: there and Tyler said, you got to wear the bricks

774
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Speaker 13: on Sunday. And it was a you know, it was

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Speaker 13: it was the upbeat event I was looking for. And

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Speaker 13: so that's that's why I was in them.

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Speaker 6: Jack, question for.

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Speaker 12: You, walk us through what it was like coming up

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Speaker 12: on stage. I mean, listen, I've spoke to big crowds,

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Speaker 12: never a crowd like that. I mean, I'm assuming that

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Speaker 12: was the largest crowd you've ever spoke to.

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Speaker 6: And what was that like emotionally?

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Speaker 4: You know, what was it like? Emotionally? It was just.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting because you know, that's what Charlie was

785
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Speaker 1: always doing with me before, right, he was putting me

786
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Speaker 1: in front of bigger and bigger crowds.

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Speaker 4: He would keep building the crowds and then he shared

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Speaker 4: his platform.

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Speaker 1: He's like Cliff Maloney, get up there, Jack Pasoba, get

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Speaker 1: up there, Alex Clark, whoever it is, Riley Gained, get

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Speaker 1: up there, and even Erica from time to time, and

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Speaker 1: he was he was training us through those reps. It's

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Speaker 1: like when you go to the gym, you do reps.

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Speaker 1: And so it wasn't It wasn't the crowd that I

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Speaker 1: was I was worried about, or the cameras or any

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 4: I just I just wanted to do it right for Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to do the job right and give

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Speaker 1: Charlie the honor that he deserved in passing because of

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Speaker 1: the way that he lived, because he was our commanding officer,

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Speaker 1: because he was my commanding officer, and also the understanding

802
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Speaker 1: that this wasn't an accident. This was done to him

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Speaker 1: by specific people and a specific series of events. And

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Speaker 1: it's that group that's standing between us and actually being able.

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Speaker 4: To unite as a country. And that's what I talked about.

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Speaker 1: I said, they are splitting Western civilization, and I just

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Speaker 1: I wanted that all to get across and that that line,

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Speaker 1: I guess where you know, if you take Charlie, you

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Speaker 1: take Charlie down, who's going to replace him? Every single

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Speaker 1: one of us, every single one of us is going

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00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: to get up on that line now.

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Speaker 4: Because.

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Speaker 1: Charlie was able to give us that last extra bit

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Speaker 1: of courage to.

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Speaker 4: Say, all right, now I'm going to step up. And so.

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Speaker 1: I knew that Charlie was with us, and then and

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Speaker 1: then it didn't matter what I thought, because because I

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Speaker 1: could hear Charlie's voice in my ear saying, Jack, get

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Speaker 1: out there, and that's it.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, And like I said, I mean, I thought your

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Speaker 12: speech was great. I think that was probably the message

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Speaker 12: that took away the most, you know, as you're saying that, well,

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Speaker 12: you know, all of us are going to replace him.

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Speaker 12: And I think everybody's got a piece that they got

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Speaker 12: to bring to the puzzle here that that puts it together.

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Speaker 6: And I think Eric at the Helm is just fantastic.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean Erica is well actually because because you've

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Speaker 1: known Erica for you know, from the events for a while.

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Speaker 4: Now, Yes, what what do you think? I mean?

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Speaker 1: I think Erica is perfect for this. What are your

832
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Speaker 1: thoughts on Erica Kirk taking the reins.

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Speaker 4: I'm all for it.

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Speaker 13: She has the resolve, she's got the strength, she's got

835
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Speaker 13: the experience of doing the events and doing the shows here.

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Speaker 13: But I think, you know, we're just gonna have to

837
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Speaker 13: wait until she self defines how much she wants to do,

838
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Speaker 13: because now she's going to be parenting that. I mean,

839
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Speaker 13: it's impossible, and it's so Can we expect the same

840
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Speaker 13: type of media cadence out of her event cadence.

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Speaker 4: Out of hers we could with Charlie?

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Speaker 10: Probably not.

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Speaker 4: That may not be realistic.

844
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Speaker 1: We'll see, right, But what's what's so remarkable about this

845
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Speaker 1: is you watch someone and you think about it. Right,

846
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Speaker 1: there's the burden of of running a massive organization like that,

847
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Speaker 1: with all the chapters in high school chapters and and

848
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Speaker 1: and donors and all the rest. Cliff, you know how

849
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Speaker 1: that goes the road and a lot of Yeah, just

850
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Speaker 1: time on the road that it takes, plus two young

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Speaker 1: having two young kids beyond the immediate, but just the

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Speaker 1: needs of two little children.

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Speaker 13: The blueberries on the sidewalk today, when I saw them,

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Speaker 13: they crushed me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And and the grief right her own personal struggle

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Speaker 1: that she has to go through of losing her husband

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Speaker 1: and then having to somehow try to explain that to children.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I told my kids. I said, my.

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Speaker 1: Seven year old, you know, he's he gets it a

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Speaker 1: little more. And I was able to say, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was able to explain the facts of it to him.

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Speaker 4: And I said, I said, Uncle Charlie closed his.

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Speaker 1: Eyes and when he opened them, he was in heaven

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Speaker 1: and I could see I could see my seven year

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Speaker 1: old Jackjack, and he just had this, you know, this

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Speaker 1: little smile but like a little tear in his eye.

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Speaker 1: But the four year old, you know, it's tougher when

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Speaker 1: they're that little, and it's it's they just don't understand things.

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Speaker 1: And I said, look, the way I said it to

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Speaker 1: him was God's got a big fight coming up. God's

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Speaker 1: going into war on the spiritual side, and he needs

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Speaker 1: his biggest warriors in his army right now.

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Speaker 4: And that's why he needed Uncle Charlie up there and Hulk.

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Speaker 1: Cogan and any and it's and it's okay. So he's

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Speaker 1: in God's army now and for for you, for a

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00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: boy at least, right that's something that he can wrap

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Speaker 1: his mind around. But they don't understand scale. They don't

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Speaker 1: understand you know, time or any of this. And I

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Speaker 1: just I love the fact that that they got to

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Speaker 1: meet him, that they got to know him a little bit,

881
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: and that we have we have these videos now and

882
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: well you actually and let's bring this up because you

883
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: have a great idea which not only to get ahead

884
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: of anything, but may already be in the works regarding

885
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: an app that we can use for this this gigantic

886
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: body of work that's out there of Charlie.

887
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean there's so many not just his not

888
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 13: just his debates on college, but you know, any anything

889
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 13: from his speeches. There's so many things that he's put

890
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 13: out there. And if you want to find out like

891
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 13: what did Charlie Kirk think about this? Or what did

892
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 13: Charlie Kirk think about that? And you go to a

893
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 13: search engine, you're going to be getting all sorts of

894
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 13: uncurated results of.

895
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: Google Google destroying exactly, You get all the attack pieces.

896
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 13: So I mean what you know, what I what I

897
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 13: sent to you is a suggestion that it would be

898
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 13: wonderful if there was a turning point, landing page that

899
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 13: you could go to and say, you know, what did

900
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 13: Charlie Kirk say, on this topic a drop down list,

901
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 13: you select it and then it gives you any clips

902
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 13: in which that's related, so you could go and see like,

903
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 13: you know, and where it was at.

904
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 4: This at this debate, on this speech.

905
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 13: And some of those segments may have one or two schedules,

906
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 13: I mean one or two subjects, and so they might

907
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 13: get cross indexed and being two different things.

908
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 4: And that's fine. Wait clip, do you remember on the issues?

909
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 10: Yes?

910
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Remember on the issues. This used to be the something

911
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: that he used to do for candidates, and it would

912
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: be it was like the worst formatted website in the world,

913
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: but it would it had this This is like back

914
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: this like nineties technology where it would just go through

915
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: each candidate on the issues and you know you could

916
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: you could pull different quotes, but it would be well

917
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: resourced and footnoted and what you'd have the whatever it was.

918
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: But you're saying with Charlie, because of the technology that

919
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: we have now, you know we don't need to just

920
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: go to you know, written quotes. We can have that too,

921
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: but you could actually pull up the video and so

922
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, what did Charlie think about? And you could

923
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: do the spiritual, you could do the political, you could

924
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: do the personal and even his last interview was about

925
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: was about business really right, you know, and entrepreneurship. So

926
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got all this out. I mean, Cliff,

927
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: what do you think is that? Is that something that

928
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: would work?

929
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 6: They'd be great.

930
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Speaker 12: And look, the one thing I always say is, obviously

931
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 12: there's no silver lining in this, But if you had

932
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 12: to pick one, it's how many new people are now

933
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 12: actually looking into Charlie Kirk, not what the media says

934
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 12: about him, not the garbage on Wikipedia, but they are

935
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 12: actually looking at what he said. They're looking at videos

936
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 12: of him giving speeches, his interactions, the way he answers questions,

937
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 12: all the proved me wrongs. New people and I mean

938
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 12: to the tunes of millions are coming to the message

939
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 12: of freedom and liberty through this horrific tragedy. And so

940
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 12: I think, yeah, the more that we can do to

941
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 12: memorialize some of Charlie's positions and all the kind of

942
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 12: assets or the production teams, you know, things that they've

943
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 12: put out, I think it's better because I think you're

944
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 12: going to continuously have people that want to know who

945
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 12: is Charlie Kirk.

946
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 4: Cliff Maloney bricksuit.

947
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: I want to Thank you for being here today, and

948
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: I want to echo your words. We can build good

949
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: from this, but we can't forget that this was an

950
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: act of pure, unmitigated evil, and for that evil, justice

951
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: must be done.

952
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, As always, you have my permission to

953
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Speaker 4: issue