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Speaker 1: Hey, there, folks, it is Wednesday, March fourth, and we

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Speaker 1: can do this all day long, so says Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Defense Secretary of War Pete Heseth. With that, welcome to

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Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose. People kind of

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Speaker 1: chuckled and giggled and said, that's ridiculous. Change it to

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Speaker 1: Secretary of War. Well, I guess it's apt right now,

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Speaker 1: and it's a pretty tough talk from the Secretary who

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Speaker 1: is just a short time ago given another update on

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Speaker 1: the war with Iran.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Among the many headlines that he created, he

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Speaker 2: had a lot of one liners in describing the United

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Speaker 2: States strength and the Iranians weaknesses, But one of them

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Speaker 2: that stood out to me was they are toast and

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Speaker 2: they know it. In the whole umbrella of we can

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Speaker 2: do this all day. Yes, he made a lot of analogies,

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Speaker 2: but he said in under a week, we have complete

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Speaker 2: and total control, or we will soon have complete and

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Speaker 2: total control over Iranian skies. And he talked about destroying

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Speaker 2: the navy, destroying the military. This was a lot of bravado.

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Speaker 1: Al rato, a lot of blustery. And you remember when

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush got so much hell right when he

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Speaker 1: said bring it on. You remember that, Yes, you bring

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Speaker 1: it on.

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Speaker 2: Ad mission complete. I remember those two thens, you know.

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Speaker 1: But the one the mission accomplished. They know that was

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Speaker 1: a mistake with the big banner that early on, but

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Speaker 1: he got hell for saying bring it on, essentially challenging

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Speaker 1: the time, but it was not received well because you're like,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's fight. But there are American lives at risk,

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Speaker 1: don't You're not a bad ass, don't You shouldn't talk

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Speaker 1: like that. There are lives at risks. We don't want

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Speaker 1: to go to war. Heck, Seth has taken that language

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Speaker 1: and run with it, and it's almost expected roles. But

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Speaker 1: a lot of this was a bunch of tough talk.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into. But there were I guess a couple

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Speaker 1: history being made by the military, something that hasn't been

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Speaker 1: done since World War Two. I thought this was interesting.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that we had not torpedoed a naval

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Speaker 2: battleship since World War Two, but apparently that's the case,

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Speaker 2: and apparently we have now done so, and did so

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Speaker 2: last night, taking at least eighty seven people on board

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that was one of the headlights. Highlights.

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Speaker 1: He and General Kane, raising Kane as President Trump likes

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Speaker 1: to call him the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. They

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Speaker 1: got up once again. Was it just yesterday they gave

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Speaker 1: the other briefing, so maybe it will be we might

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Speaker 1: get regular briefings. But he did another one just a

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Speaker 1: short time go. They don't go that long. They come

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Speaker 1: out and they make a couple of statements. Only took

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Speaker 1: questions for about fifteen minutes. But yeah, some of the

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Speaker 1: He did mention as well that the new leadership is

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Speaker 1: possibly coming in. He said, yeah, there is no new

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Speaker 1: They're taking out their missile capability. He used just using

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Speaker 1: theirs is going down. He said they're having less and

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Speaker 1: So I would say ropes. He gave us much of

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Speaker 1: out robes. There was a bunch bunch of tough talk.

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Speaker 1: Even in giving highlights or updates I should say about

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the war. He did it with

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Speaker 1: a You called it bravado. There was some tough dude talk.

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Speaker 1: It was broie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's weird to say that in the concept

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Speaker 2: or in the context of war, but that's a lot

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Speaker 2: But there is no there's no couching of terms or

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Speaker 2: softening of tone. This is all very boo yah. And

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Speaker 2: it's maybe something that maybe military members speak the way

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Speaker 2: what Pete Hegseth is bringing to the Department of Defense

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Speaker 2: and actually truly making it the Department of War. He's

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Speaker 1: And look, maybe some of the rank and file love it,

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Speaker 1: maybe some of the President Trump's supporters love it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just not necessarily what we're used to. And fine,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to get used to it with this

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Speaker 1: particular group. Some of the tough talk he was talking about. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: you can give us You could say, yes, we have

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Speaker 1: air superiority and we have control over their skies, but

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Speaker 1: you could talk like that, but it's not the way

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Speaker 1: we're used to hearing. No, it's not at all.

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Speaker 2: Certain things that I would think we've told our children

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Speaker 2: not to speak like we're hearing now talking about us

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Speaker 2: being or this was never meant to be a fair fight,

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Speaker 2: and it's not a fair fight. We are punching them

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Speaker 2: while they're down, and that's exactly as it should be.

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Speaker 2: I understand where but there's just something about that that

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Speaker 2: feels slightly shocking to hear. And I know they even

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Speaker 2: talked about people clutching their pearls, but I actually felt

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Speaker 2: myself kind of clutching my pearls, Like is that okay

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Speaker 2: to talk like that about other human beings? I know

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Speaker 2: there are enemy at this point, given that we're at

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Speaker 2: war with them, but I just still feel it still

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Speaker 2: us talk about other humans that way. But again, maybe

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Speaker 2: I am clutching my pearls and when I shouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: At a time of war, it just seems to belye

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Speaker 1: the seriousness of the matter, this kind of talk. He

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Speaker 1: even use a football reference that we're gonna let you

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Speaker 1: hear here in a second that both of us kind

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Speaker 1: of looked over to each other and say, where is

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Speaker 1: this going? Because he set it up in such a

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Speaker 1: he said it. The other thing, Robes, we talked about

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Speaker 1: the sinking of the ship. This is another thing. It

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Speaker 1: sounded like we're getting revenge for something personal that was

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Speaker 1: done to President Trump, at least the way he said that. Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent. I think he intended it to

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Speaker 2: be absolutely. When he talked about he said, we sunk

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Speaker 2: their prize ship, the Solomony, and then he added, looks

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Speaker 2: like potis got him twice. He went on to explain

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Speaker 2: that yes, they got this their prized warship to Solomony,

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Speaker 2: and they were able to sink it by a torpedo

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Speaker 2: and again the first time that we have sunk an

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Speaker 2: the fact that, yes, we took out the leader of

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Speaker 2: the group that attempted an assassination on President Trump. And

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Speaker 2: so I believe he said something that President Trump got.

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Speaker 1: The last laugh. Yeah, I mean what the laugh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: hunt it down and killed quote Iran tried to kill

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Speaker 1: President Trump and President Trump got the last laugh. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's badass. I mean that's tough talk from the Pentagon. Fine,

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Speaker 1: this is the Department of War, and this is the

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Speaker 1: new tone they have set. You remember him bringing all

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Speaker 1: This is in line. We shouldn't be necessarily surprised by this.

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Speaker 1: But the Solomani he was talking about, this was the

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Speaker 1: was taken out, was at last it was within the

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Speaker 1: past year. Do I have that right? I would have

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Speaker 1: to check, well, anyway, but Solomony was taken out by

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Speaker 1: action by this president. This ship was named after that guy, Solomoni.

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Speaker 1: They sunk that ship. So that is the point of

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Speaker 1: what Hegseth was trying to say. And that looks like

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Speaker 1: Potis got him twice. Killed the man now killed the

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Speaker 2: I believe, yes, and I believe Solomoni was assassinated actually

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Speaker 2: in Trump's first term, so it was January third, twenty

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Speaker 2: then and he was a part of leading that. I

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Speaker 2: So yes, Potis got him twice. But it just feels

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Speaker 2: like a flippant remark. Given the situation we're in.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of flippant remarks, you could argue.

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Speaker 1: But he made a football analogy, and this is the

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Speaker 1: one that certainly got our attention. But explaining where the

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Speaker 1: Iranians are in this whole mess. Right now here, he

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Speaker 3: But I liken Iran's predicament to a football team who

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Speaker 3: scripted the first twenty plays of a game. The team

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Speaker 3: those plays. Iran's senior leaders are dead. The so called

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Speaker 1: That's it's tough, taugh. I mean, it's it's an I guess,

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Speaker 1: apt analogy. I understood what he was trying to say. Hey,

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Speaker 1: look you it's plain speak. It's like a football team

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Speaker 1: you had your play scripted in the game started. Now

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Speaker 1: you don't know what to do. We're just not used

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Speaker 1: to it, he used. He was common speak. Actually that

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Speaker 1: was one of the lesser creatious. That's true.

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Speaker 2: I think it just was shocking to your point that

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Speaker 2: it seemed so it just seemed comparing a war. And

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Speaker 2: he you know, he did acknowledge the six fallen soldiers

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Speaker 2: or a six fallen American military personnel who were killed

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Speaker 2: by the Iranian fire in Kuwait with there on a

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Speaker 2: Kuwaiti base. But still given the fact that Americans are dying,

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Speaker 2: certainly the numbers are growing of Iranians who have died

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Speaker 2: And just to kind of make this football analogy, like

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Speaker 2: we're all just playing a strategy game, a game where

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Speaker 2: we've got crowds cheering, and wins and losses aren't life

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Speaker 2: or death. So that's why I think it just felt

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Speaker 2: a little, well a lot uncomfortable to hear.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how most Americans are, the majority

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Speaker 1: different from what we're used to in past administrations. I

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Speaker 1: guess This is part of the course with this one.

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Speaker 1: Also par for the course is the questions that will

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Speaker 1: the Admiral standing up there. Those questions are coming to

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Speaker 1: them from a press corps that looks a whole lot

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Speaker 1: different from the Pentagon press corps of old. We continue

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Speaker 2: And that was about whether or not this girls' school

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Speaker 1: But it is just it.

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Speaker 2: It's shocking to not have CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, those

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Speaker 2: It makes our country a democracy, don't we want they're

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Speaker 2: if you think they're unfair questions, why shouldn't our administration

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Speaker 2: It would be so true, yes, and that is an important,

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Speaker 1: this story, as you know, is changing by the minute.

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Speaker 1: We are keeping a close eye on all things related

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Speaker 1: to Roan. We will keep you updated as those as

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Speaker 1: that breaking news dictates. So we appreciate you spending some

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Speaker 1: time with us on TJ. Holmes on behalf of my

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