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Speaker 1: Jared, how you doing today? Oh, Steve, I'm fantastic. I'm

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Speaker 1: in full so I'm in full March madness mode. And

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Speaker 1: Saturdays are intense like Saturdays, and this might be one

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Speaker 1: of the last ones because we've got conference tournaments, but yesterday,

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Speaker 1: like every single team in college basketball played yesterday. It's

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Speaker 1: wild and over the next two weeks it's only going

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Speaker 1: to get more mad.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got a little discombobulated the top of the

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Speaker 2: show today because, as you know, Jared, I am on

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Speaker 2: every Saturday and Sunday here on Fox Sports. I was

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Speaker 2: going to fill in with VJ. Husky last night and

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Speaker 2: I got into a little fender bender last night on

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Speaker 2: my way. Nothing serious was your fault. It was I

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Speaker 2: hate to say that, you know, I was a little discombobulated,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm already of the Saturday mode and I

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Speaker 2: didn't do a Saturday show my thanks to my dear

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Speaker 2: friend Arnie Spanning for jumping in last night. But we

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Speaker 2: got a big show today. You know, here's the thing, Jared,

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Speaker 2: So obviously we and I, you and I have not

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Speaker 2: immediately because Rich Ornberger and I have been partners for

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Speaker 2: used to do an afternoon drive show, morning show. We've

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Speaker 2: finally I get relief because it seems like everyone I

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Speaker 2: work with is a Penn State person. Okay, so LeVar

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden I find out, Jared Smith,

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Speaker 2: the same time you were there with Rich?

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Speaker 1: Right, Steve the story with Rich and I. It's like

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Speaker 1: one of those fate you know, kind of love stories.

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Speaker 1: So not only did we go there at the same time,

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Speaker 1: the exact same window. So I'm in the stands like

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Speaker 1: a drunk idiot, you know, in my frat boy Penn

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Speaker 1: and behold. That was four to eight Lo and Behold.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years later, we get paired together doing the same

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Speaker 1: radio show. Like, it's really wild when you think about it,

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Speaker 1: because you know, there's so many people that you work

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Speaker 1: my first national radio show here at Fox. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, on this our third year doing it, and

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Speaker 1: it's just things come full circle, right like fate, like

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Speaker 1: those weird stars align type moments like that. That's what

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Speaker 1: it felt like when I found out that, Wait, the

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Speaker 1: guy I'm doing this show with, like my big break

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Speaker 1: used to watch, like, you know, grind out running plays

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Speaker 1: State fot We'll see. It's wild stuff, Jared.

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Speaker 2: Take it from someone that's been doing sports talk radio

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Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty nine. Okay, you will literally run into

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Speaker 2: the same people over and over and over. It's a

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Speaker 2: recycle job. Okay, once you're in, you're part of it.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, a little programming note, So, Jared,

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Speaker 2: a tremendous job. You're out based in Las Vegas. Right now,

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Speaker 2: a little programming twist that you're not aware of, but

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Speaker 2: you will be right now coming up at the bottom

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Speaker 2: of this hour. A tradition that's been part of my

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Wow, surrounding the Academy Awards. Now, I know that we're

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Speaker 2: give me a sure bet? And we have I have

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Speaker 2: who is the ultimate Academy Awards insider, and every single

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Speaker 2: year for thirty years, he has come on, we will

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Speaker 2: do this rapid fire. You don't even really you can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to listen.

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Speaker 2: So what I'm going to do is I'm going to

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Speaker 2: literally go through all twenty three awards, all categories from

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Speaker 2: What's amazing Now, what's amazing is his batting average is

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Speaker 2: Acting awards, you know, you know, the main awards. Right

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Speaker 2: this guy when a costume design would make up you know,

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Speaker 1: Have the insider trading.

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Speaker 2: He literally is so welcome. I've literally known this guy

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Speaker 2: for over forty years, but for the last thirty years

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Speaker 2: as Lucky Lishue. He comes on social media people always

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Speaker 2: are you know, all over me. Is he coming on?

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Speaker 2: Is he coming on? Is coming on? Well? The Academy

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Speaker 2: Awards obviously are happening not too far from where I'm

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Speaker 2: broadcasting right now tonight. So this gives you an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jared, there is gambling on the Academy Awards.

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Speaker 1: Right huge, well, and now because of all of these

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Speaker 1: trading sites that have opened up, right like it started

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Speaker 1: of you know, that's a very thin line now. And yes,

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Speaker 2: Well, and then that's my whole point. So we're going

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Speaker 2: first hour, and as I said, if you miss it,

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Speaker 2: you can hear on the podcast later. But again, lucky

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Speaker 2: shoot Letshoe will join us and give us picks for

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Speaker 2: all the categories for Tonight's Academy Awards. All right, so, Jared,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned March Madness. Now I'm a UCLA guy, Okay,

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Speaker 2: interesting the way I view March Madness and my first

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Speaker 2: And I had the good fortune of meeting and interviewing

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Speaker 2: real deal, one of the funniest men Jared I ever

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Speaker 2: John Wooden. I think it was commemorating around his ninety

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Speaker 1: We know a lot about football, but that's about it.

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Speaker 2: What what do you believe? Because March Madness to this

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Speaker 1: It's usually the people who don't know, she knew, not

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Speaker 2: Give us a sense, because you're so knee deep in

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Speaker 2: all this, what is it about March Madness? I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: March Madness. Why is that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I think it's the finality of it, and

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And you know, offensive line, defensive lines where I

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Speaker 2: All right? Coming up on the other side, It's the

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Speaker 2: moment many of you been waiting for. Lucky the Shoes

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Speaker 2: going to run down all twenty three categories in tonight's

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Speaker 2: Academy Awards and he is going to give you the winners.

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Speaker 2: But first let's find out what is trending. Martin is

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Speaker 2: switched seats. I'm sitting where Martin was a half hour ago.

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Speaker 2: Now he's on the other side of the glass. You

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Speaker 2: coming here next, No, that is I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what buttons to push over there?

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Speaker 5: You know that the red one, the one that goes on.

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Speaker 5: That's the way.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole panel of things. You got in front

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Speaker 2: of you.

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Speaker 6: With a ten thirty left in the third court of

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Speaker 6: the Boston Celtics have a twenty point lead over the

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Speaker 6: Denver Nuggets sixty eight to forty eight ball team.

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Speaker 5: Being lead and scoring right now by Jalen Brown.

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Speaker 6: He's got seventeen points, adding three rebounds and three assists

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Speaker 6: to that total. Jason Tatum with nine so far. It's

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Speaker 6: only two freight from the floor, one for five from three.

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Speaker 6: He has five rebounds and six assists as well, But

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Speaker 6: again nine points for Tatum in this twenty point definite

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Speaker 6: right now, Christian Brown the leading score were for Denver.

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Speaker 5: He has sixteen points.

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Speaker 6: In Nicola, Jokis adding eleven points, eight rebounds, four assists

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Speaker 6: in twenty one minutes of action, sixty.

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Speaker 5: Eight to forty eight to score there.

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Speaker 6: With one minute left in the second period, the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 6: Penguins have a one goal lead over the Toronto Maple Leafs,

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Speaker 6: four to three, and at halftime of a top ten,

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Speaker 6: our top sorry, top eleven college basketball matchup, we're looking

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Speaker 6: at Michigan State and Wisconsin. The eighth ranked Spartans the

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Speaker 6: eleventh ranked Badgers, Wisconsin in the lead thirty four to

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Speaker 6: thirty two. Again that game at the half and anksious

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Speaker 6: waiting Steve to hear who's gonna win these oscars.

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Speaker 5: I've raced in my sports book and open the app

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Speaker 5: let's go.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you heard what Jared have to say.

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Speaker 2: He's he's ready to go as well. Martin, thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. Once again, this is Fox Sports Sunday, but

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Speaker 2: we detour for a moment On Oscar Sunday, we are

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Speaker 2: live from the ti raq dot Com studios, and as

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Speaker 2: promised as he has for decades, joining us once again

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Speaker 2: to give us a full round of tonight's Oscar winners

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Speaker 2: is the legend himself, Lucky Leshue. Lucky. How are you today,

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Speaker 2: you guys? We are doing great. Lucky. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Jared is here. Jared. Jared Smith's a guy that operates

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Speaker 2: out of Vegas, so he's very anxious to hear what

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Speaker 2: you got for us today, Lucky. So I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to waste any time. There are twenty three categories. It's

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Speaker 2: sort of rapid fire again. If you miss it now,

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Speaker 2: you can go back to our podcast, which will be

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Speaker 2: posted right after the show. All right, let's get it

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Speaker 2: started with the first category. Here, Animated Short. What's gonna

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Speaker 2: win here?

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Speaker 3: Lucky It short goes to Wander.

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Speaker 2: To Wonder, Wander to Wonder. There it is for animated

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Speaker 2: short film. Best Animated Feature.

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Speaker 3: Animated feature would be The Wild Robot.

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Speaker 2: The Wild Robot we go to International feature.

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Speaker 3: Film, got an upset here for you? I'm still here

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Speaker 3: will be the winner.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So Amelia Perez, No, I'm still here. Yes, let's

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Speaker 2: go to live action short.

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Speaker 3: It will be a short called a Leen.

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Speaker 2: Ad Leen. Let's say a Leen, Oh a Leen, l

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Speaker 2: I e n a Leen. All right, very very good.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to best sound.

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Speaker 3: Best sun will go to Dune Part two.

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Speaker 2: Dune Part two gets best Sound Production Design.

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Speaker 3: That will go to my favorite film of the year,

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Speaker 3: Wicked Wicked.

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Speaker 2: We'll get productions.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Let's do the two documentaries. Best Documentary Short Feature.

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Speaker 3: The Only Girl in the Orchestra, The Only Girl in

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Speaker 3: the Orchestra.

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Speaker 2: All right, Best Documentary.

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Speaker 3: Feature Documentary Feature. Another upset here. It's gonna go to

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Speaker 3: Porcelain War.

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Speaker 2: Porcelain War is gonna win that one.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 2: We move on to makeup and hairstyling.

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Speaker 3: That's the easiest one. The substance.

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Speaker 2: The substance will win that one. Horror movie, al right.

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Speaker 2: Best costume Design once again, Wicked. Wicked wins costume design.

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Speaker 2: Best cinematography goes to the Brutalist. Brutalist wins best cinematography.

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Speaker 2: All right. Couple of music awards, Best Original Song, Well.

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Speaker 3: The category should be canceled, but it won't. El Mal

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Speaker 3: from Familiar Perez will win.

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Speaker 2: I heard that's not even a song, all right, but

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Speaker 2: it has one in all the precursors. Best Original Score.

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Speaker 3: Another Oscar for the Brutalist.

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Speaker 2: The Brutalist wins that one. Best Film Editing.

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Speaker 3: Film Inniting will go to Conclave.

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Speaker 2: Conclave gets editing. Best Visual Effects.

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Speaker 3: That we'll go to Doom Part two.

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Speaker 2: All right, very good, and now we get to the

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Speaker 2: big eight, starting with Best Adapted Screenplay.

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Speaker 3: Another victory for Conclave.

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Speaker 2: Conclave wins Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Original Screenplay, that will

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Speaker 2: be no wins Original Screenplay. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 2: the acting categories. Best Supporting Actress, Well.

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Speaker 3: We all know Ariana Grunde deserves it. You shall have

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Speaker 3: it stolen by Zoe Saldagna for Amelia Perez.

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Speaker 2: Zoey Saldonia for Amelia Perez. Best Supporting Actor.

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Speaker 3: Easiest award in the Evening Kieran Colkin for a Real Pain.

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Speaker 2: Kieran Culkin, a Real Pain. Let's let's actually skip to

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Speaker 2: Best Director before we get to the top acting categories.

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Speaker 2: Who will win Best Director.

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Speaker 3: Sean Baker for Anora.

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Speaker 2: Sean Baker Anora, all right?

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Speaker 3: Best Actress Award the Evening. But I think the legacy

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Speaker 3: goes to the me more in the substance to.

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Speaker 2: Me Moore, unbelievable. Who would have ever predict she'd win

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Speaker 2: an oscar she will for the substance Best Actor.

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Speaker 3: It goes to Adrian Brody for the Brutalist.

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Speaker 2: And then finally best Picture.

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Speaker 3: I'm calling for the upsetet. I say, Conclave best picture.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Conclave wins best Picture. Lucky leshu as always, people

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Speaker 2: have been writing frantically all your predictions down by the way,

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Speaker 2: did you get all those sean? Excuse me, Jared?

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Speaker 1: Did you get my left I'm a lefty. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: need to ice my left wrist after that.

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Speaker 8: On the il Yeah, writing down here in the control

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Speaker 8: room too, all right, some.

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Speaker 1: Of these are some big money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean these are these are all the great

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Speaker 2: well Lucky as always, thank you so much. We're always

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Speaker 2: confident your track record speaks for itself. We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: So there it is Jared Lucky li Shoe. That was

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Speaker 2: awesome And that's how he does it every single year.

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Speaker 2: So he runs down the categories.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Chris, so, Jared, which ones do you like best?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 1: Of well, I have to go well, here's what I

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Speaker 1: knowt well, so here's my ods. It's two plus two,

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Speaker 1: So I got the bet MGM odds. And obviously there's

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Speaker 1: other shops available and sometimes the limits. But right now, yes,

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Speaker 1: best actor Brody's the favorite. Best director Baker is the favorite.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of these are favorite picture. Conclave is

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Speaker 1: plus two fifty. That's a really good price if that

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Speaker 1: ends happening. Best Actress to me, more is the big favorite,

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Speaker 1: so no surprise there. So again, a lot of these

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Speaker 1: are big favorites, sure, but plus two to fifty for

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Speaker 1: Conclave if that's if that wins, and that's a big mover.

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Speaker 1: So on February twelfth, Conclave was sixteen to one, which

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Speaker 1: is a huge, massive number, And now plus two to

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Speaker 1: fifty is basically saying thirty ish percent implied odds that

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Speaker 1: Conclave is going to be the winner. In Anora's minus

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Speaker 1: two hundred, which is about sixty five percent sixty six percent,

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Speaker 1: So Anora is the favorite. So that'd be a pretty

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Speaker 1: big upset there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think again, knowing Lucky all these years that

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Speaker 2: I have, he takes in a lot of different things. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the individual branches, remember how this all works with the

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Speaker 2: Academy Awards, so the individual branches decide the nominees, but

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Speaker 2: everyone in the Academy votes, So in other words, music

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Speaker 2: people nominate the music categories, Editors nominate the editor, actors

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Speaker 2: nominate the actors directors. That's the way it works. But

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Speaker 2: when it gets to the final vote, all Academy Award

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Speaker 2: members vote, so that that can throw you off a

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Speaker 2: little bit, and has over the years. I believe that

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons he might be leaning the Conclave

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Speaker 2: is the Screen Actors Guild Awards came out and their

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Speaker 2: top category is sort of the Ensemble Cast, and most

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Speaker 2: people thought Honora was going to win it, and it didn't.

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Speaker 2: It went to Conclave, and so that's one of those

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Speaker 2: where he's thinking, you know, the actors branch is huge

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Speaker 2: with the Academy. They may have a lot of say

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Speaker 2: in terms of swinging Best Picture, which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in recent years we've had a few.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Coda, where did that come from? Right?

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Speaker 2: When Coda won Best Picture, wouldn't even nominate for Best Directors.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, when you have, you know, an insider, as

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Speaker 2: we have with Lucky Lishoe, he is working it all

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Speaker 2: the way to his final prediction.

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Speaker 1: Harman real quick to back back off of that in

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Speaker 1: the north and you just said so eighty According to

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Speaker 1: bet MGM for Best Picture, eighty one percent of the

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Speaker 1: money is on a nor to win. So this would

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Speaker 1: be a massive upset. It would be. And then there's

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Speaker 1: another upset. I'm seeing the best, so I'm going through

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Speaker 1: all the odds now right MGM doesn't have all the

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Speaker 1: They only have the big ones posted some of the

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Speaker 1: offshore outs. For example, the Only Girl in the Orchestra

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Speaker 1: for Best Documentary Short, that's plus one fifty right now,

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Speaker 1: that's another good, you know, upset, kind of pick. All

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Speaker 1: the other ones seem to be relative favorites. Best Documentary

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Speaker 1: Feature here, hold on, so Jared Wars plus one twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That's another good one to w Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: Looks Wander to Wonder is best Animated Short, looks to

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Speaker 6: be slightly over plus money and a leen Best Live

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Speaker 6: Action Short looks to.

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Speaker 5: The even money. I'm not on bet MGM, but I'm

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Speaker 5: on I might.

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Speaker 1: Should I hop a flight to Canada and get get

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Speaker 1: what about? What about?

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Speaker 2: What about the International Feature Film? Where everyone obviously picking

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Speaker 2: Amelia Perez? He said, I'm still here the Brazilian movie

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Speaker 2: is gonna win there, that's.

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Speaker 1: Minus so that's minus two hundred Emelia Press plus one

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Speaker 1: twenty five. So I so again, sometimes the market sniffs

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Speaker 1: these things out, and obviously Lucky's fantastic, but if he

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Speaker 1: knows it, there's probably other people that know it, and

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Speaker 1: then once it kind of seeps its way out into

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Speaker 1: the market, that's when people bet it. But again, a

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Speaker 1: few of these, and I think to your point, because

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Speaker 1: of the exposure, right, like if a sports book takes

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Speaker 1: a lot of money on one particular bet, especially something

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Speaker 1: that's unique like this with the oscars, even if the

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Speaker 1: news gets out because of the liability on one particular side,

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Speaker 1: they don't move the odds as much as they might.

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Speaker 1: So that might be the case with Conclive.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so that is I'm kind of fascinated. I know

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Speaker 8: there was a lot of like inkspilled over. This is

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Speaker 8: on documentary I believe, what was it, black Box and Diaries,

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Speaker 8: which I know is like getting some pressed because it

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Speaker 8: can't actually be shown in Japan.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that one's twenty to one on Best Documentary Feature.

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Speaker 2: Right, and he has porcelain, right, And then for the

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Speaker 2: Best Sacramery Short Feature, as the only girl in the Orchestra.

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Speaker 1: That one. I'm betting that one's so other than other

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Speaker 1: than Conclave. The juiciest pick that Lucky just gave out

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Speaker 1: that I can find right here off of mine. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: this is just one website, so there's multiple other sports books.

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Speaker 1: I just looked at the one that was available to

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Speaker 1: me as I was kind of, you know, sifting through

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Speaker 1: this only Girl in the Orchestra would be the next one.

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Speaker 1: That's the best payout? Yeah, plus one fifty undred dollars

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Speaker 1: wins you one fifty.

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Speaker 2: How about that? All right, guys? Another year?

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Speaker 4: That was all.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, there's there's a certain element of fate

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Speaker 1: Steve that I'm on the show today for this segment

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Speaker 1: because the hip right up my mind.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, here's what happened. When when I found out

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Speaker 2: jaredy you were going to do this, I said, all right,

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Speaker 2: don't even tell him about Luckyles show. I will break

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Speaker 2: it to him because Richard and rich has been part

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Speaker 2: of this for years as well, but he's not as

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Speaker 2: in tune with the Betty market. You know. I've always

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Speaker 2: touted it that way, saying, you know, there's many outlets

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Speaker 2: that we'll take bets on the Academy Awards, and those

677
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Speaker 2: that have profited reached out to me on X and

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Speaker 2: like it is lucky coming on.

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Speaker 1: I go, Yes, this is awesome. I'm going And if

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Speaker 1: we make money tonight everyone, I mean, I always pay

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Speaker 1: it forward. So the next time in min La, we'll

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Speaker 1: go out for a nice little Yes, Oscar Lucky.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would always say wager at your own risk.

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Speaker 2: Yes we have wait, but you have someone that again

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Speaker 2: has a pretty amazing track record over the years. Yes.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up on the other side, we'll get

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Speaker 2: back to some sports, including what's really the aftermath of

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Speaker 2: what's going on at the Combines in Indianapolis. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Jared Smith. Here, Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the Tairaq dot Com studios. All right,

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Speaker 2: so we got our.

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Speaker 1: Oscar buzz, our Oscar fixed in for the day.

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Speaker 2: Now we get back to what's happening around the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. Jared, I'm really intrigued by your perspective, because

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Speaker 2: again we are at that point. Well, the NFL's three

696
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Speaker 2: sixty five, we understand that, but you know, the odds

697
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Speaker 2: are shifting constantly as we now get ready for free agency,

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Speaker 2: so the ground who's going to be franchise tag all

699
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Speaker 2: that leading up of course to the NFL Draft. So

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Speaker 2: have we seen anything move around over these couple of

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Speaker 2: days of activities in Indianapolis? And as we know, watching

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Speaker 2: guys run forty times is meaningless, that's all for television's sake.

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Speaker 2: It really comes down to physicals, which are very very

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Speaker 2: important to these teams before the draft, and then the

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Speaker 2: interviews where they get a chance to sit down with

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Speaker 2: these future NFL players to get a read on whether

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Speaker 2: they're the right foot for their team. But have we

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Speaker 2: seen any movement in terms of Super Bowl odds, conference

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Speaker 2: winning nods over these last couple of days?

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Speaker 1: Pretty quiet, Steve. I think this is kind of the

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Speaker 1: quiet period for those markets, the markets that I'm starting

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Speaker 1: to see not only get posted but also start to move,

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Speaker 1: or the draft markets. So the NFL draft over the

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Speaker 1: last four years. It was really the pandemic draft right

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty that really sparked this draft betting movement

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Speaker 1: because people were bored, there was nothing to bet on,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Roger Goodell's on his couch

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Speaker 1: telling you who's the number one pick, and you could

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Speaker 1: bet on that and people were going crazy for it.

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Speaker 1: Since then, the NFL Draft has been the off season

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Speaker 1: market to look at because if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: let's say you bet on the Chiefs to win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year. All right, well, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to wait eleven months to figure out if you're right

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Speaker 1: or not, and over the course of that eleven months,

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Speaker 1: the odds could move up or down where you could

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Speaker 1: have gotten a better number on the chief So I

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Speaker 1: think because of the time horizon between now and when

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl is and when the conference championships are,

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Speaker 1: those markets aren't as popular now. If there's a crazy number,

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Speaker 1: for example, like the Rams at twenty five to one,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, let's say they drop

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Speaker 1: to one hundred to one because Stafford might be gone. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you think, like you successfully predicted that it's all

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Speaker 1: for show and he's going to be back with the Rams,

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Speaker 1: that's a bet you'd want to make now, knowing, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I think Stafford's still going to be with the Rams

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Speaker 1: next year, but the price is not indicative of that.

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Speaker 1: Let's make that wager. But at the top of the market,

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Speaker 1: Eagles Ravens Bill's Chiefs, like, we expect these teams to

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Speaker 1: be great teams all year. You're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: bet them throughout the course of the season. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to risk any crazy injuries to a Mahomes or

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in the offseason. The draft is what I'm

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Speaker 1: really seeing. And cam Ward, the number one pick, has

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Speaker 1: taken a lot of steam this week. Of course, teams

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Speaker 1: are maybe willing to trade up for cambin Ward, and

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Speaker 1: I think that gap between him and shaudor Sanders is

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Speaker 1: growing wider and wider as the combine wraps up. And

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Speaker 1: it seems like for now that cam Ward at number

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Speaker 1: one is the juicy option at the top of the track.

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Speaker 2: All right, But being number one doesn't mean he's going

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Speaker 2: to be taken by the team that's sitting at number one.

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Speaker 1: Very true.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, we're sitting right now with the

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, and this this is a weird situation. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is a franchise that has gone south real quick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to believe, what was it three

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Speaker 2: four years ago? They were the number one seed in

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Speaker 2: the AFC, and it's hard to believe that they think

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Speaker 2: that they have themselves a franchise quarterback in Will Levis,

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Speaker 2: So it would seem natural that you're like, Okay, well

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Speaker 2: that's a team that definitely is going to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But what is your read right now in both cam

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Speaker 2: Ward and Shade or Sanders? I mean, is there stock

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Speaker 2: plummeting right now? Or because they seem to be so

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Speaker 2: clearly the top two quarterbacks in this draft that their

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Speaker 2: stock is actually rising.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I'm hearing is Sanders is actually closer to

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Speaker 1: dark Jackson Dart than he is to Ward. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I buy that. I do think Sanders is

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Speaker 1: going to be a good pro. I think he's very

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Speaker 1: accurate with the football. He's like, you know, you go

774
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Speaker 1: to the Italian restaurant, you get the seven layer cake.

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Speaker 1: He is elite at layering the football. Just a fantastic

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Speaker 1: ball placer. And I think that's what the NFL really is,

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Speaker 1: is being able to read the defense and put the

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Speaker 1: ball in the right spot. Now, his athleticism is certainly

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Speaker 1: in question. He takes too many sacks. He can't get

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Speaker 1: out of the pocket and create plays. That's why he's

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Speaker 1: gonna drop in the draft. Cam Word can do all

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Speaker 1: those things, but I don't think he's as accurate as

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Speaker 1: consistent with placing the football. It's really how the Titans

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Speaker 1: view Will Levis compared to cam Ward. That's the key.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think they love based on what I'm hearing,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they love cam Ward enough to take

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Speaker 1: him at one. So you either trade back or you

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Speaker 1: take Abdul Carter and you continue to build because I

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Speaker 1: think Will Levis he's a cheap, you know, cheap option

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Speaker 1: this year. You know, he's only gonna make a million

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Speaker 1: dollars in year three of his rookie deal. And I

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Speaker 1: think the Titans are at least content with that because

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Speaker 1: they don't view cam Ward as the number one pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Here here's my thoughts on the draft. If you're trying to,

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Speaker 2: you know, figure this whole thing out, believe what everyone

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Speaker 2: thinks when the college football season ends, because we know,

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Speaker 2: as we get closer to the draft, the lies just

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Speaker 2: come out. You remember how Will Levis was going to

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Speaker 2: be picked over C. J. Stroud? Remember, ever, suddenly remember

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Speaker 2: that whole thing leading up to Will us could be

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Speaker 2: the top quarterback of the draft, or at least the

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Speaker 2: second quarterback pick of the draft. Never believe that, always

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Speaker 2: believe what's happening right now? All right, we got some

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Speaker 2: NBA news we're gonna get to. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we talk a little NFL here in

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Speaker 2: the first hour, we got our oscar picks in if

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Speaker 2: you missed it, podcast is going up right after we

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Speaker 2: get off the air. You can hear Lucky liss Shoe

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Speaker 2: run down all twenty three categories for tonight's Academy Awards.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in the next hour. Our MLB insider John

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Speaker 2: Paul Morosi JP is going to be joining us.

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Speaker 1: Are you a big baseball guy at all?

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Speaker 2: Jered?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would say if I had to rank

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Speaker 1: the sports that I watch and bet on, NFL, college football,

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Speaker 1: college basketball, Major League Baseball would be my core four

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Speaker 1: and then NHLNBA golf probably be like on that next tier. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe like International Soccer World Cup beyond the following teer.

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Speaker 2: You know, my history with gambling is not good. Why

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Speaker 2: why I'm not there a reason why. Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: share a very quick story with you. So the guy

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Speaker 2: that ended up being the best man in my wedding

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Speaker 2: was a bookie. He was an illegal bookie. Okay, wow,

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Speaker 2: among other ventures of illegal venture capitalism, I guess it was. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: So he was, he was very And this is in

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Speaker 2: the early eighties, Okay, this is way back in time,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, nothing was illegal gambling. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I remember being in Las Vegas for Super Bowl sixteen,

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Speaker 2: which is January nineteen eighty two, the first forty nine's

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl win, and there was only one place in

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Speaker 2: Vegas you could bet, and that was the startist Started,

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Speaker 2: So the only place that exists in those days. It

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Speaker 2: actually took sports bets and I actually bet the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers to the under and at a college basketball

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Speaker 2: game University of Virginia with a great Ralph Sampson and

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Speaker 2: one one three three way Parley Big then got a

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Speaker 2: speeding ticket on the way back. Let's get into that anyway.

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Speaker 2: So the nineteen eighty one NCAA basketball tournament, I decided,

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Speaker 2: I'm really cocky at this point. I'm twenty three years

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Speaker 2: old in my fifth year at UCLA, and so I

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Speaker 2: bet on six games that first day. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think about, they're all fifty to fifty, right, it's one

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Speaker 2: or the other. Right. I lose all six games. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the odds of that are well the same as winning

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Speaker 2: all six games. Yeah. So the next day, in a

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Speaker 2: frantic attempt to get it back, I bet five games.

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Speaker 2: I lost all five. I was now out of three

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Speaker 2: months worth of rent. Wow, and had to make the

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Speaker 2: sniveling call to my father, which was something that was

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Speaker 2: not very pleasant because my dad made it very unpleasant

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Speaker 2: for me. And so from that point on, I just said,

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Speaker 2: you know what, maybe this is not for me. So

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Speaker 2: I'm always amazed, especially people like you, Jared, that it's

862
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Speaker 2: not a matter of engaging in the actual act of gambling.

863
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: It's the idea of following the trends and figuring out

864
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: what's what and you know, getting action. I mean, that's

865
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: what it all comes down to. That being said, I

866
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: want to turn to the Los Angeles Lakers So Tuesday,

867
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: I was actually at the game at Crypto dot Com

868
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: Arena for Luca going against his former team, the Dallas Mavericks.

869
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: I was doing a TV shot there. I hadn't done

870
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: a live TV shot at a Laker game since Kobe played.

871
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a while since I had been

872
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: out there. But the atmosphere was electric. Everybody was there.

873
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean everybody was there to see this. And you know,

874
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: after those ugly losses they had at Utah before the

875
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: All Star break and then that Charlotte loss at home

876
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: after the break, they've rattled off five straight wins and

877
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're the third seed in the

878
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: West and technically they're tied with Denver in the lost

879
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: column for the two seed. What's the buzz on the

880
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: Lakers right now? I mean, I honestly, my initial thought

881
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 2: with Luca is his game is so similar to Lebron.

882
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: I don't know how this is going to work, but

883
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: it's working right now. And Luca hasn't been shooting the ball.

884
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: Well see, you figure his SHOT's going to get better

885
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: as he gets back into shape, so to speak, after

886
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: having been out since Christmas. Are the Lakers considered a

887
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: real threat right now to actually win the NBA Championship

888
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: this season.

889
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: Personally, no, but I understand why the vibe in the

890
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: market thinks so, because we just saw Luca go to

891
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: the finals last year and people are like, oh, Luca

892
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: and Lebron like, and I think this is the way

893
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: that I'll frame it. Game seven, everything's on the line.

894
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have Lebron and Luca or Sga

895
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: and chet Holmgrim. I think we all know the answer

896
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: to that question. But the problem is you have to

897
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: get to Game seven, and then you not only have

898
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: to get to Game seven in the like because I'm

899
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: projecting that'll be a Western Conference final, right Oklahoma City

900
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: in La. Or could be Oklahoma City and Denver, who knows,

901
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: But you're projecting the Thunder being in the Western Conference finals.

902
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: They're odds on. And when I say odds on, this

903
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: phrase is misused in gambling terms all the time. Odds

904
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: on means they're more than fifty percent, so minus one

905
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: p fifteen, meaning they're about a fifty eight percent implied

906
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: odds to win the Western Conference. That's the Oklahoma City Thunder.

907
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: The Lakers are plus six to fifty. They're basically the second,

908
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: tied for the second favor essentially behind them and the

909
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: Nuggets and the Warriors are right there too, So the

910
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: odds are telling us it's kind of a four team

911
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: race in the West right now. It's Thunder, Nuggets, Lakers, Warriors,

912
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: And I think if you flash forward to a game seven, yeah,

913
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Lebron and Luca, but it's the grind

914
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: of getting through the playoffs. And I think a big

915
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: misconception about the NBA postseason hits long. Man, It's like

916
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: two months long. So this is a situation where the

917
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: Lakers don't have a ton of depth, and that depth

918
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: will be tested over the course of a seven game

919
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: series in the first round, seven game series in the

920
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: second round, and then oh, by the way, now you

921
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: get the Thunder potentially in a Western Conference final. And

922
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: unlike the regular season, Steve Lebron can't take knights off,

923
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: Luca can't take knights off for rest management. You can't

924
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: do that in the playoffs. They've had the benefit of

925
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: that during the regular season. So I think in a

926
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: one game roll of the dice, i'd rather have the

927
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Lakers and their top two, But you have to get

928
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: to that one game roll of the dice, because unlike

929
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, it's not winner going every night.

930
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen such a change in the NBA

931
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: in recent years. You had that unprecedented run of four

932
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: consecutive years with the same two teams in the NBA Finals,

933
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: the Cavaliers really Lebron versus the Golden State Warriors. But

934
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: since then it's just a revolving door. A couple of

935
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: years ago, the Denver Nuggets look so dynamic in winning

936
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: the NBA Championship. You thought, all right, here's a team

937
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: that was put together the right way in house. Obviously,

938
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: the joker turned out to be a lot more than

939
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: anyone ever dreamt he would be as a second round pick,

940
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're like, Okay, this team

941
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: is a team that seems to have the ingredients to

942
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: rattle off a number of championships. And then last year

943
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: they disposed of the Lakers that seemed to be like

944
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: their free spot on the Bengo board. And then they

945
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: go belly up against Minnesota.

946
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Like what happened there? I mean, and losing at home

947
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: in the final game.

948
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: And so I think that's why a lot of people

949
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: right now you look at the Thunder. You look at

950
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: the Cavaliers. Look what the Cavaliers did the other day

951
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: to the Celtics in Boston. I mean, Garland and Mitchell

952
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: are the real deal and they just absolutely ate them

953
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: up at teeny Garden. So here's a Cavs scene that

954
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: has won nine straight games. They have the best record

955
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: in the NBA right behind them or the Thunder. You

956
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: know the amazing said about the Thunder. So they're forty

957
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: eight and eleven. Okay, that's amazing in itself. Point differential

958
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: twelve point seven points per game for the season. They

959
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 2: weren't just winning like they're blowing people off the court.

960
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: But there doesn't seem to be a lot of trust

961
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: in either the Thunder or the Cavaliers based on, well,

962
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: we don't really know what we're going to get in

963
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: the postseason. You have the Celtics wanted a year ago,

964
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: but you had a year where Milwaukee came out of

965
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: nowhere seemingly to win it. The year Golden State wanted.

966
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: Who had the Nobody had the Warriors that year to

967
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: win the NBA Championship. So I think that's that's what

968
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: makes it intriguing right now. I still think even though

969
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: these two teams, young teams, young bodies, get it done

970
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: on both ends, you know, defensively, offensively. Again, point differential

971
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: for the Cavs this year's eleven point six. These are

972
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: two dominant teams right now. But I think it's a

973
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: it's a weird dynamic for much of the reason you

974
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: just gave Jared, it's a long postseason. It's and you

975
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: can't trust home court anymore, that idea of playing, you know,

976
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: to get the best record, home court advantage. We've seen

977
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: enough teams belly up in that final game to say

978
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: that's not kind. That's not the guarantee we used to

979
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: think it was to have that game seven at home.

980
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: Definitely not. And I think in the East it's a

981
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: totally different scenario. It's really just two teams, yeah, and

982
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: it's really Boston and Cleveland, and you know, there's a

983
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: big gap between those two teams and the Knicks and

984
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: the Bucks, and then even a bigger gap and then

985
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: you get the Pacers with Boston. If porsingis is healthy,

986
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: I just don't see anyone beating Boston in a seven

987
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: game series because they can come at you from so

988
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: many different ways. With the Knicks, I think that's the

989
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: one team that maybe has the mentality and the toughness.

990
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how tough Klee. We're gonna find out

991
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: how tough Cleveland is in this postseason. I know they're good,

992
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 1: but how tough are they? I think the Knicks are tough,

993
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: but what do they have left in the tank come

994
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: May when you need those games? Because I think Tis

995
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: is just running these guys into the crowd every night,

996
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: and we saw it last year. Like I thought, the

997
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: Knicks would have given the Celtics a much better series

998
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: than the Pacers, but the Knicks ran had a gas

999
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: in that semi final round, couldn't get over the hump,

1000
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: even though they had to lead in the series and

1001
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: had a lead in the decisive the really decisive game.

1002
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: I think it was either I think it was Game

1003
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: three or Game four on the road where they had

1004
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: the lead and then the Pacers came back late and

1005
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: Haliburton hit the shot and that was it. It was over.

1006
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: Series is over.

1007
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: Knicks had nothing left in the tank, and the Pacers

1008
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: then got obliterated in the Eastern Conference Finals, even though

1009
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: they had some opportunities too to win some games. But

1010
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think anyone is tougher and

1011
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: better than Boston, like the top Like it's like the

1012
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, I won't use it on the air, but

1013
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: you know, the mess around and find out category. Like

1014
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: I think Boston's at the top of the toughness and

1015
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: the talent category. I think the Knicks have the toughness,

1016
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: but maybe not the talent and the juice. Cleveland's got talent.

1017
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how much juice they have. We're gonna find.

1018
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: Maybe Cleveland gives them a series. Maybe Cleveland gives them

1019
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: a series and they're tough enough to get over the

1020
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: hump there. But I still think it's Boston in the

1021
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals again.

1022
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: Well again, what Cleveland did in Boston the other night

1023
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: was like impressive. And then their guard play. I mean,

1024
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: you got two all star guards and they're looking like

1025
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: all stars right now. All right, coming up on the

1026
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: other side more NBA, as we try to dig deep

1027
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: and maybe find a team out of the West and

1028
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: a team out of the East, they could have a

1029
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: much deeper playoff run than anyone would imagine right now.

1030
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: I got some in mind myself. I'm sure Darrek does

1031
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: as well. Keep it all right. Here, this is Fox

1032
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin and Jared Smith here on Fox

1033
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: Shorts Sunday. We are live from the Tirak dot Com studios.

1034
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: John Palmer Rossi, JP, our MLB Insider is going to

1035
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: be joining us coming up in the next hour. I

1036
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: actually spend a lot of my time heared also in

1037
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: the Phoenix area, which is a good area to be

1038
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: during spring training. If you never have done this before,

1039
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: either in Florida or in Arizona, just going out to

1040
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: any spring training baseball game, I highly recommend it.

1041
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: Total it is.

1042
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: It is. It's layback. Usually they get really creative with

1043
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: the eats at these spring training facilities. I mean, I'll

1044
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: use Campbellback as an example with the Dodgers beautiful stadium,

1045
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: and you know all throughout Arizona. I've been to a

1046
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: number of the places down there, but just kicking back

1047
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: and you know, taking it in and you're going to

1048
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: see some players that you know, obviously are not going

1049
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: to make the major league rosters, but you're also going

1050
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: to get closer to some of the big stars than

1051
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: you've ever been before. It's worth it. If you're a

1052
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: baseball fan, you probably have already done them. If you haven't,

1053
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: I highly recommend it.

1054
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: Do you get a chance to do that, Jared, Yeah.

1055
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: So I grew up in South Florida. Actually a fun

1056
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: story about my upbringing. My grandfather was best friends growing

1057
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: up with Jean Michael Stick Michael Wow, you know, former scout,

1058
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, head scout. You know, he was one of

1059
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: the reasons that they, you know, Yankees had the renovation

1060
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: in early nineties there. But he used to take us

1061
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: to Lockhart Stadium in Fort Lauderdale. Because my family grew

1062
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: up in you know, I was born in New York

1063
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: and we moved to South Florida when I was really young,

1064
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: when I was like five years old, and my grandfather

1065
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: used to take me to Lockhart Stadium in the early

1066
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: nineties before the move to Tampa and Steinbrenner Field, they

1067
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: played at this rinky dink you know, ballpark in Fort

1068
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: lauder like a municipal field essentially, and so I remember,

1069
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, some early memories of my baseball fandom was

1070
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: going to Lockhart Stadium when I was young and going

1071
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: to Yankee spring training games. It was it was it

1072
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: was a trip.

1073
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: Geen Michael's one of my favorite guys.

1074
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: He was.

1075
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: First of all, he was one of those revolving door

1076
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: managers for George sam Brenner would bring him in a

1077
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 2: couple of times. He bring him in, he fire him,

1078
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: he bring him back. You know, he was like that

1079
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: fill in guy. He's also one of my favorite players

1080
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: as well, because I actually I'm sort of addicted to

1081
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: like Baseball Reference, He's one of the few players that

1082
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 2: I have seen in the history of Major League Baseball

1083
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: as a player who played at least ten years of

1084
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: Major League baseball and has a career negative war, which

1085
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: is almost impossible. If you have a career negative war

1086
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: and yet you still get in ten years of playing

1087
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: major league baseball, that's pretty impressive.

1088
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: Hard to do, hard, hard to do, hard to do.

1089
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: Hard to do. All right, let's talk a little bit

1090
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: about NBA sleepers right now, and a team that I've

1091
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: got my eyes on and I think for good reason

1092
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: is the Golden State Warriors.

1093
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: Now.

1094
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: The Golden State Warriors run to the NBA Championship a

1095
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: few years ago, came out of nowhere, and that was

1096
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: the year that Clayton Thompson, after sitting out for two

1097
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: full years, came back mid season. People that have been

1098
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: listening to me know that you know I name dropped

1099
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: like crazy. But Michael Thompson, his father, and I did

1100
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: a radio show together for five years. I first met

1101
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: Clay when he was fourteen years old. His brother Trace

1102
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: was thirteen, future Major League Baseball player, and they came

1103
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: to join their father and me at the NBA Finals

1104
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: in Detroit in two thousand and four. And then we

1105
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: had planned on a day off to take the boys

1106
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: to a Tigers game, and the day of the game

1107
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: that their father, Michael bailed on us. Let me get

1108
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: this straight. You fly your boys to Detroit, and you

1109
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 2: want me to take him to the game. He goes,

1110
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: can you? I said, sure? And so I take a

1111
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: fourteen year old Clay and a thirteen year old Trace

1112
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: to the Tigers game. And the good news for me

1113
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: is they still remember that all these years. I've asked

1114
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: them for the money back for all the money I

1115
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: spent on them for a food that because her father

1116
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: refused to do that. But anyway, just a great family,

1117
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: tremendous stuff. But I look at this. The Jimmy Butler

1118
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: dynamic is interesting to me. By the way, there's a

1119
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: story that Jimmy Butler's got some legal problems right now,

1120
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 2: some unpaid renter, so I don't know, some crazy stuff,

1121
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: but this is a player. Jimmy Butler in his time

1122
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 2: of the heat, proved that he could play big in

1123
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: big games. And Steph Curry, Steph Curry still, I mean

1124
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: that game that he had the other what fifty six

1125
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 2: points the other day twelve threes. I mean, come on,

1126
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: it's just absolutely insanity. Look, I'm not picking him to

1127
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: win an NBA championship, but I think they're going to

1128
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: be a tough out in these NBA playoffs.

1129
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: I agree. I think anytime you have experience, and like

1130
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: because of the length of the postseason, it takes a

1131
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: certain level of experience to be able to manage those

1132
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: highs and lows. And I think that's where teams like

1133
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: the Cavs, like the Thunder are going to be a

1134
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: little bit undervalued, perhaps in those areas. They're not undervalued

1135
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: in the actual real market itself, but I think teams

1136
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: maybe overestimate their ability to make it through the gauntlet

1137
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: that is the highs and lows of an NBA postseason,

1138
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: Whereas the Warriors, it's more about the physical like with

1139
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: the Lakers and the Warriors, it's not about if they

1140
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: can take the mental gauntlet. It's the physical gauntlet of

1141
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: what the NBA postseason is. That teams are a little

1142
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: bit concerned of whether or not Lakers Warriors can get

1143
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: through that physical test. But mentally, I would put Golden

1144
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: States five against almost anyone else in the field right now.

1145
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: Who would you say has been a bigger disappointment this

1146
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: year in the NBA? The Phoenix Suns are the Philadelphia

1147
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: seventy six Ers.

1148
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, I think with the Suns. Yeah, I think the

1149
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: Suns because with the Sixers high, with you on the side,

1150
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: I totally expect it. I mean, I'm at the point

1151
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: with Joel Embiid now where it's like he has become

1152
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: the villain that everyone you know maybe thought he was

1153
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: going to be. When you know he's he has these

1154
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: moments where it's just he looks like he's a dirty

1155
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: player and and and then he doesn't have that redeeming

1156
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: quality of giving you his all every night, right, and.

1157
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 2: Then Paul George Dynamic, who went from at one point

1158
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: maybe the most underappreciated player to the most overrated player

1159
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: in the NBA.

1160
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: I totally agree because the thing about Draymond Green, like, like,

1161
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: you know, Draymond has that ability to get under people's skin.

1162
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid has that same ability. The problem is Draymond,

1163
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, goes one hundred percent every play right, and

1164
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: and that's where you you know, you know, he's the

1165
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: guy that you don't want to face. You don't want

1166
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: him to be against you, whereas Joel Embiid you almost like, yeah,

1167
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: I want to go up against him because think mentally,

1168
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm tougher than him. And I think that's where I

1169
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: struggle with guys like like and the way that the

1170
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: Sixers have kind of constructed their team with Doc Rivers

1171
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, like it's just it's it's a

1172
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: very difficult pill to swallow. I am not on board,

1173
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: uh with with any of that. And I would say

1174
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: the Sun's bigger disappointment because I expected to say fail.

1175
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the problem for here, here's the thing about

1176
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: the Suns. So Matt Eshbia takes over as the owner

1177
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: right now. He was He's one of those guys that

1178
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: you claims he was a basketball player, right he went

1179
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: to Michigan State. He was one of those guys who

1180
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: sat on the bench next to is Ooh and he

1181
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: was on the team in the uniform for one thing

1182
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: is GPA. You know these guys that fill out the

1183
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: benches on these schools where they say, well, our jr

1184
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 2: overall GPA of our basketball team was a three point

1185
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: Oh really, and then you find out, well, that's because

1186
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: that guy that's sitting there that literally never plays, That's

1187
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: who matt Eshbia was. But somehow he parlayed that into

1188
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: thinking he knew what's best for a basketball team. He

1189
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: took a team that one year made it to the

1190
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: NBA Finals followed by a sixty four win season, and decided,

1191
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna get this team to bring in Kevin Durant.

1192
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: And then if that wasn't enough, how about giving a

1193
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: max down contract Bradley Beal who's never won anything his

1194
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: entire career. Yeah, and there's just no way out of

1195
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: this mess. I mean there's just they got three guys

1196
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: all making over fifty million dollars a year and no

1197
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: way out. I've rarely seen an owner this incompetent, just

1198
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: believing in his own personal hype. Oh I played the game.

1199
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: No he really didn't. Sorry, you didn't play? Did you

1200
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: think he did? And so you think you know the game.

1201
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: That's why I've always you know, doctor Buss, you know

1202
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: someone that covered obviously LA sports all these years that

1203
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: I did. You know, he was a really smart man.

1204
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 2: He was fun. He was a fun guy. I can

1205
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: remember way back in the day Jared actually going to

1206
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: clubs and seeing like this old guy walk off with

1207
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: the best looking woman in the room, and I realized,

1208
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: that's doctor Buss again. How does this guy? Oh, I

1209
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: know how he pulls it off. But anyway, but he

1210
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: knew how to delegate and understand. You know, I I'll

1211
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: control what I can control. What I'm going to do

1212
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: is I'm going to make my team the IT team

1213
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: in LA. I can't overplay the Forum club. I know.

1214
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: I did some voice work on the on the Winning

1215
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: Time show, the TV show that came out for a

1216
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: couple of months. Really yeah, if you heard the radio,

1217
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: uh that was you, that was me.

1218
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing a show with a celebrity, well.

1219
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: Semi, but one of the producers of the show is

1220
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: a friend of mine, so he goes, I'm going to

1221
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: use you on this.

1222
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: That's cool.

1223
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: But it was pretty accurate in the idea that doctor

1224
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: Buss understood that I need to make this a happening.

1225
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: And as someone old enough to actually remember the foreign

1226
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: club and sneak my way in there a few times

1227
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: over the years, it was exactly that. Imagine having the

1228
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: biggest nightclub in LA tagged onto the basketball team. So

1229
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: he he knew what he could control. But he allowed

1230
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: basketball people like Jerry West, like Bill Sharmon you know

1231
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: later Mitch Cupchak to run the team. And that's what's

1232
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 2: necessary if you're going to be a successful owner. You

1233
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: got to be able to delegate and put the right

1234
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: people in the right position.

1235
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: That's what American aff is having an issue with right now.

1236
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: With the Complins, Well, that's exactly the problem. But you know,

1237
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: he was a dear friend of my old boss, Al Davis.

1238
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: I worked for the LA Raiders back in the eighties

1239
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: and Al Davis was the general manager. But Al Davis

1240
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: actually had been a coach and a general manager in

1241
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: the old American Football League and knew a lot more

1242
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: football than Jerry Jones does. All right, let's find out

1243
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: what is trending right now. So is that a busy

1244
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: day today, Martin, or what's what's.

1245
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 6: Happening not quite now? Slow dance sports, slow dain Sports.

1246
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 6: But the Sunday showdown is over. Boston Celtics Denver Nuggets

1247
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 6: Boston victorious. They improved to forty two and eighteen eighteen

1248
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 6: and eleven at home UH one ten to one OZHO

1249
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 6: three the score. Jalen Brown led the team is scoring

1250
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 6: with twenty two points on six for fifteen from the floor.

1251
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum got off to a slower start, never really

1252
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 6: got going from three to one for seven from three,

1253
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 6: but finished with sixteen points. Al Horford had at nineteen,

1254
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 6: Derek White seventeen. This Celtics team is just the balance

1255
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 6: is incredible between them. But Christian Braun led I'm sorry.

1256
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 6: Jamal Murray led the Nuggets to scoring. He had a

1257
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 6: big fourth quarter, finished with twenty six points. Christian brough

1258
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 6: in twenty four, nicolea Jokic one assists, shy of a

1259
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 6: triple double twenty points, fourteen rebounds and nine assists. College basketball,

1260
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 6: excuse me one minute left in the game here between

1261
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 6: Michigan State and Wisconsin. Michigan State, the eighth ra EE

1262
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 6: team in the nation, wisconstantly eleventh, sixty nine to sixty.

1263
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 6: The score of the Spartans, the home team, and the

1264
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 6: lead one oh six left in the game. There with

1265
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 6: four to thirty one left in overtime. I'm sorry, five

1266
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 6: minutes left in overtime.

1267
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: Nope, four to thirty one.

1268
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 5: Here we go.

1269
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: That makes more sense.

1270
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 6: Maple Leafs and Penguins tied five apiece there and Steve,

1271
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 6: like I said, it's a slow news day.

1272
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: It's a slow news day, but we're making it busy

1273
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: on the show today. That's what we try to do,

1274
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: you know.

1275
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 6: I mean the big the big news was was your

1276
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 6: boy Lucky coming on here.

1277
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: It'll be even here. If he rattles off all those

1278
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: winnes tonight, he'll do well. I'm looking forward to you know.

1279
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the process of investing right now. Yeah, we're

1280
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: making our making our buys.

1281
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: So if again, if you miss the Lucky List shoe

1282
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: oscar picks for tonight's Oscars. Again, we'll have our podcast

1283
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: up right after the show today. All right, Martin, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much. We'll check in with you a little

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Speaker 2: bit later on. Once again, this is Fox Sports Sunday. We

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about what has to be

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Speaker 2: the biggest surprise team in the NBA this year, and

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Speaker 2: Bickerstaff has done an unreal job, the Detroit Pistons. Let's

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Speaker 2: remind ourselves of what this is. How many wins they

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Speaker 2: had in each of the last five seasons, well, actually two, okay,

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Speaker 2: so obviously in twenty twenty and twenty one, not full

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Speaker 2: seasons because of the COVID situation, they had twenty wins

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Speaker 2: both those years, winning percentage of thirty percent. And then

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Speaker 2: the last three full seasons they were twenty three and

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Speaker 2: fifty nine, seventeen and sixty five, and last year fourteen

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Speaker 2: and sixty eight. This year they're thirty four and twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is unreal. So when you have a

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Speaker 2: team like the Pistons, who right now, by the way,

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Speaker 2: are the sixth seed in the East, and considering all

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Speaker 2: the teams with losing records behind them in the play

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Speaker 2: and round, I think they're gonna make the cut most

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Speaker 2: likely in that top six. But is this a team

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Speaker 2: where they go into the postseason Jared were like, nothing

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Speaker 2: to lose, Like, I mean, you know, no one's expecting

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Speaker 2: anything from the Pistons. That's another team that I would

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Speaker 2: look at saying they're playing with house money. That's that's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: And they're good against the number two. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the key. You're gonna get a lot of big underdogs

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Speaker 1: in the East when they go up against the Calves

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Speaker 1: and the Celtics, and that's to me like that that's

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Speaker 1: the big advantage to betting the NBA in the playoffs

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01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: is you know you're getting max effort. You don't know

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Speaker 1: that on regular season nights, although from the Pistons you

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01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: do know that. So I think when you get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs you have to be careful. If you're just

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Speaker 1: gonna bet these teams to win, I would be more

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Speaker 1: interested in betting them to cover. And it'll be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see what kind of numbers we get. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: going back now earlier this year at home on February fifth,

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Speaker 1: they're actually pretty About a month ago at home, the

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Speaker 1: Pistons were a three and a half point home underdog

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland. They lost that game by three, so if

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Speaker 1: you kind of, you know, put that out there in

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Speaker 1: the universe. And in January they were a ten and

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Speaker 1: a half point road underdog at Cleveland. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the numbers you're gonna be looking at here. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get them at a plus three plus four price

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Speaker 1: at home, maybe a plus ten plus eleven, maybe even

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Speaker 1: higher than that, depending on how well Cleveland does in

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Speaker 1: their earlier round games, because it looks like that could

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Speaker 1: be a potential three to six matchup, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the first round. And I think that you know, a

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Speaker 1: two seven, three six where you know, you get Detroit

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Speaker 1: as a ten point dog on the road. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think that's where I would consider betting Detroit in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I don't think they're gonna win a series.

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Speaker 1: I think that is a bridge too far for me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I the thing that impresses me about their record

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Speaker 2: is they have a winning record on the road.

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Speaker 1: That's really impressive.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, they have a winning record on the road.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you talk about coach of the

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Speaker 2: Year JB. Bickerstad, I mean it's like run away if

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Speaker 2: he's not unanimous somebody. I mean, it is unreal how.

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Speaker 8: I think it's also a rise of Kate Cunningham, who

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Speaker 8: was a very high draft pick for them, and like

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Speaker 8: I as a I mean, I'm a Pistons fan myself,

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Speaker 8: but like he's.

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Speaker 2: A legitimate watching through all.

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Speaker 8: They went through, and like he never really quit if

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Speaker 8: there was one. If the main complaint is about NBA

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01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 8: players not really you know, being too detached from the teams,

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Speaker 8: that's not a problem with Kate Cunningham at all. He

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Speaker 8: wears everything on his sleeve and just really seems to

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Speaker 8: be the heart of the team. And this is this

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Speaker 8: is a team that like lost Jade and Ivy earlier

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Speaker 8: in the year too, and they've just somehow gotten better

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Speaker 8: and kept trucking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand this. Chris is our insider on Detroit sports.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the Detroit gad.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is a team I literally go back

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Speaker 8: with since my childhood since like you know, my dad

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Speaker 8: knew Bill Amber and getting to throw the ball out

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Speaker 8: for warm up to Grant Hill, Like this is this

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Speaker 8: is a team in my blood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're my blood too, as the hated ones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the future is bright, like they were a

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Speaker 1: four and a half point home dog to Boston the

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Speaker 1: other night. I mean that if you're going to get

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Speaker 1: them at a twelve thirteen point dog at Boston in

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Speaker 1: game one of a potential second Like, let's say they

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Speaker 1: pull off an upset and they're playing the Celtics in

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Speaker 1: the second round. Man, you're gonna get some fat prices

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Speaker 1: on them.

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Speaker 8: I think I think what the goal is for the

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Speaker 8: Pistons of years is that just that just win a series,

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Speaker 8: just win, just to show that at least you're back

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Speaker 8: on the stage.

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Speaker 2: And well, let me ask you right now, britten Off. Yeah, again,

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Speaker 2: they are four and a half games clear of the

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Speaker 2: playing teams. I mean, all four playing teams right now

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Speaker 2: in the East have a losing record. I don't see

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Speaker 2: anything with the Heat, the Magic, Hawks, Bulls. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these are just I think if.

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Speaker 8: You're the Pistons, you want to try to get But

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Speaker 8: I mean, how about I have matchups so well?

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Speaker 2: I mean I agree, but let's say you had a

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Speaker 2: Pistons Knicks first round matchup. Man, could you imagine, Jared,

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Speaker 2: what do you think?

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Speaker 1: I think that would be one of the most Like

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Speaker 1: the totals would be like like one to eighty in

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Speaker 1: those games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it would be.

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Speaker 1: It would fit school, old school basketball right there. Again,

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Speaker 1: I think the Knicks are a really interesting team because

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Speaker 1: if if they can figure out a way to just

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Speaker 1: keep their legs about them, they have the like if

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Speaker 1: you were picked, if you picked one team in the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference that has the mentality to beat Boston in

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Speaker 1: a seven game series. I honestly do think it is

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Speaker 1: New York, but I just don't know if they're gonna

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01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: have enough legs. Whereas Cleveland has a great backcourt, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they've got enough toughness. Man a Detroit,

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Speaker 1: New York matchup in the first round of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's what scares me because that that would probably suck

1414
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: the life out of the Knicks, where I'd much rather

1415
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Speaker 1: have them face a little bit more of a free

1416
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: flowing offensive team in the first round so they can

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Speaker 1: maybe keep their legs about them. But yeah, that'd be

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Speaker 1: a really good series MVP.

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Speaker 2: That's something that people love to wager on. I know

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01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: Jared over the years, and to me, what's weird to

1421
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 2: me about NBA Most Valuable Player over the years is

1422
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: what we call the fatigue factor.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I mean technically, Michael Jordan should have been MVP every

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01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 2: year he played between full year. He should have been

1426
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: ninety six, ninety seven to ninety eight. But one year

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01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: they gave it to Bark when he moved to the

1428
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns led him to the finals, and another year

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01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 2: they gave it to Carmelo, and I felt like it

1430
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: was like the fatigue factor. One thing I appreciate about

1431
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 2: the NHL. Gretzky won the Heart Trophy, which is the

1432
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: MVP Trophy eight years in a row because he was

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Speaker 2: the most fabable player. And no, there was no fatigue factor. Okay,

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: the guy wins eight years in a row. But you

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01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 2: you look at Nicola Jokic and you look at the

1436
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: numbers this guy puts up. He is averaging twenty nine

1437
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: point one points per game, twelve point seven rebounds per game,

1438
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: and ten point five assists a game, a triple double.

1439
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking on a team right now that's the

1440
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 2: two seed in the West. And I know Shay gilgis

1441
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: obviously you could make the argument best player on the

1442
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 2: best team. You know Jannis is in the conversation, you know,

1443
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum says he doesn't get respect. That's because he's boring.

1444
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 2: He's really boring player. But I mean, how is Jokic

1445
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: not the most valuable player in the NBA.

1446
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: He's just not this year unfortunately. And I agree that

1447
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: on the surface it might appear that.

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01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: By the way, he's also shooting forty four percent threes.

1449
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: I think. So, there's two things with these award markets, Steve,

1450
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: that are fascinating to me. Yeah, One is the odds

1451
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: can be moved very quick like the like it can go,

1452
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: especially early in the year when things aren't really you know,

1453
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: settled yet a month, all of a sudden, a new

1454
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: favor could emerge. So just the volatility of this market

1455
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: is fascinating. The second thing that people, and this is

1456
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: the most important thing with this market. And I say

1457
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: this people all the time. We talk about it on

1458
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: the Saturday Show when we're talking about you know, NFL

1459
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: MVPs and you know college football Heisman trophies. You have

1460
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 1: to remove your opinion from the situation. You are not

1461
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: handicapping who you think the MVP is. You are handicapping

1462
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: who the voters think the MVP is. And the voters

1463
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: they can be fickle, but they also over the years

1464
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: give you tips and trends and voting patterns. Just like

1465
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: the election, there is a thing called voter fatigue, and

1466
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: that is a real thing. And for a guy like Jokic,

1467
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: for a guy like anyone that's already won the award

1468
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: Giannis embiide, in order for you to win it again,

1469
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: you have to do better, do more. But Joki has

1470
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Speaker 1: done that at all. I mean, let me give you this,

1471
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 1: and this is no knock on. Shake Gilgisure part of

1472
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: the worst trade in NBA history. I mean, I mean,

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01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: what was it, six number ones and Shay gilgis for

1474
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: Paul George whatever. Jokicic has twenty eight triple doubles this year,

1475
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: Shake Gilgess has zero. So right now, Jokich has a

1476
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: higher field goal percentage, a much higher three point percentage.

1477
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 1: He dwarfs Shake Gilgess's rebounds and assists triple doubles.

1478
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: I just talked double doubles. Jokicic has forty six, Shake

1479
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 2: Gilgess has five, and the only difference is Shake Gilgess.

1480
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: Alexander is averaging three point two points per game more.

1481
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: That's the only advantage he has. So if you're talking

1482
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: about is Jokic going next level. Yeah, if he averages

1483
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: a triple double over an entire season, as it hasn't done.

1484
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: That before, that's the key I'm talking about. It's Yo

1485
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: relative to the field, It's Jokich relative to MVPs of

1486
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: Jokic's past. That's what the voters have shown up. I mean,

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01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: that's why Gilcenter is a massive favorite to win this

1488
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: order and he's a minus six hundred favorite. He's bigger

1489
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: than some of the Oscar picks that Lucky gave out

1490
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: his favorite tonight. He's I mean, it's almost a foegone

1491
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: conclusion he's going to win the award, and I think

1492
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: a lot of it to his team's success, a thunder

1493
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: having historic year, especially defensively. Their points per game difference

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: is off the charts, and I think a lot of

1495
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: that plays into account. But the biggest factor here is

1496
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: for Nikoli Jokic to win another MVP, he is going

1497
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: to have to blow past his prior MVP years and

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01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: raise the bar, and he just I think he's reached

1499
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: the bar and he is maybe playing slightly at a

1500
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: higher level than he has in years past, but he

1501
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: has not raised the bar considerably from his prior MVP years.

1502
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: Which is why as it's like fresh blood we want

1503
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: to see and it's it kind of vibes with the

1504
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: underdog culture we see in March Madness. We want to

1505
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: see a new team come from out of nowhere like

1506
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: San Diego State make the final four. But it's just

1507
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: it's really hard to do because it's hard to do

1508
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: it again and then raise the bar once more. And

1509
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: that's where Yokic's and not saying he's falling short. He's

1510
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: having he is having an MVP year, but he's not

1511
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: having an MVP year relative to his MVP year's past.

1512
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: It's like, right at the level that he was.

1513
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: At forty four percent, three point shooting on top of

1514
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: everything's incredible. All right. Coming up on the other side,

1515
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: a story that well, people aren't betting on it, but

1516
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: gambling is a big part of it. We'll explain. This

1517
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harby, Jared Smith. Here, we

1518
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: are Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from the

1519
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: Tyraq dot Com studios. Well, someone that I have always

1520
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: been a big fan of is back in the news,

1521
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,919
Speaker 2: and that is the late great Pete Rose. So President

1522
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: Trump has announced that he wants to pardon Pete Rose,

1523
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: so I gets Pete back into the conversation. Pete, of course,

1524
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: passed away this past September at age eighty three. This

1525
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: is a story, Jerry, that I have literally covered from

1526
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 2: the very beginning. My first year on air as a

1527
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: radio guy was back in nineteen eighty nine. He was

1528
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 2: the manager of the Reds when all of a sudden,

1529
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: the story broke that there was a huge investigation going

1530
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: on of Pete Rose, and he was a longtime friend

1531
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: of the veteran broadcaster I was partnered with at the time.

1532
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: I introduced myself at a Dodger game to him during

1533
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 2: this investigation. He gave me an exclusive interview. Really thrilled

1534
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: me at the time, and I sort of I interviewed

1535
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: Pete many times over the years. Of course, you're in Vegas,

1536
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: where Pete lived his final days. I want to get

1537
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this whole thing, because when we talk

1538
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 2: about Pete Rose. John Dowd, of course, who led the investigation,

1539
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: interviewed him many times. I asked him repeatedly, was there

1540
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 2: ever any evidence at all the Pete Rose ever fixed

1541
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: the game or he ever bet against his team? And

1542
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: he said no. And I'm like, Okay, so there was

1543
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: precedent here. Back in nineteen sixty three, Pete Rossell suspended

1544
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: two of the biggest stars in the NFL, Paul Horning

1545
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: and Alex Carris, for betting on their own teams. They

1546
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: were suspended for one year. Both the reinstated, and both

1547
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 2: eventually were elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1548
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we have people that are mass murders that

1549
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: served less time than Pete Rose has. This has been

1550
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: the most unprecedented. We had the recent passing of Fay

1551
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: Vince and who I blame for a lot of this

1552
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 2: because it was talking to Bart Jamadi, who of course

1553
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 2: passed away just days after he laid down what had

1554
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 2: gone on with Pete Rose and the suspension. Pete always

1555
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 2: maintained that he and Bart had an agreement that this

1556
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: was going to be reviewed after a year, and he

1557
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: fully expected to be reinstated in baseball. Obviously, it didn't

1558
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 2: happen because Faith Benson decided that's never going to happen

1559
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: under my watch, and it's continued on. But now Rob

1560
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: manfor the Commissioner of Baseball says, yeah, he sees mulling

1561
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 2: over Pete Rose's Family's request to remove Rose from the

1562
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: ineligible list, which is why he's never been on the

1563
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: ballot for the Baseball Hall of Fame. Where do you

1564
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 2: stand on this?

1565
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I think posthumously, I like it. I think

1566
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: in the moment we shouldn't have probably could put him in,

1567
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: just because there's too much buzz around it. But at

1568
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's a big difference between

1569
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: betting on your team and betting against your team, major

1570
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: difference there. I wish I had a stronger opinion on this,

1571
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: so you would think, oh, the Gambley guy has a

1572
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,640
Speaker 1: strong opinion on Pete Rose. Like, at the end of

1573
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: the day, he broke the rules, and I'm fine with

1574
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: the punishment that he got. I think if he would

1575
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: have shown more remorse during his life, he probably would

1576
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: have gotten, you know, put in before this. But because

1577
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: of the situation where he was a little bit more

1578
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: I guess hesitant to really show any remorse that the

1579
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: baseball didn't didn't really reciprocate any any kindness that he

1580
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: showed later in life. So I don't think there was

1581
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: a crime like there was really like, it's it's it's

1582
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: it's a tricky situation. See, I don't have a strong

1583
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: opinion on him, but possimously I think it's it's it's

1584
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: okay that he was dug well.

1585
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: The reason I mentioned this again because look, for many,

1586
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: gambling obviously is a horrific vice that they just can't

1587
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: come overcome and they need help. There's there's the adrenaline junkies.

1588
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: Heete Rose the way he played the game. He played it,

1589
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 2: by the way, in more winning games than any player

1590
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: in the history of Major League Baseball. No one that

1591
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: ever saw Pete Rose play didn't come away with the

1592
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: thought that he is doing everything he can to have

1593
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: as team win. Yep, he played all of The guy

1594
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 2: ran to first base when he walked. That's why he

1595
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: got the nickname Charlie Hustle. Theer like, what are you doing?

1596
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 2: Why are you running the first base on a walk?

1597
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: That's the way this guy was wound up. But that personality,

1598
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: couple with the thrill of winning in gambling, really led

1599
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: to his demise. John Paul Morose is gonna be joining

1600
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 2: us a little bit later on, and she'll talk about

1601
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: that everything around major League Baseball much more coming up

1602
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Sunday. Rolling along here having a

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Speaker 2: great time on another sports Sunday. I was saying, a

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Speaker 2: MLB insider as spring training now moves into March. I

1613
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 2: don't understand, you know, I get it way back in

1614
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: the day, Jared, We're you know, in the old days,

1615
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: I mean really old days where professional athletes actually had

1616
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: to hold down off season jobs to pay the bills.

1617
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: That's really old.

1618
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I mean really old, but I mean

1619
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 2: that's the way it was. And so, you know, whether

1620
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 2: you're baseball, for any of these professional sports, you had

1621
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: an off season job, and then it made sense you're

1622
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: going to have an extended preseason or spring training to

1623
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 2: get yourself in shape so that you could actually play

1624
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 2: the sport at the highest level. I get all that,

1625
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: but this idea of why do we still have six

1626
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: weeks of spring training for what reason? Doesn't make any sense.

1627
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I mentioned earlier it's great to go to

1628
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 2: a spring training game, but do we really need six

1629
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 2: weeks of spring training?

1630
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: I think we do, but we don't need maybe as

1631
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: many games. Like I'm okay with the guys going down

1632
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: there and going through the motions. I don't think they

1633
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: need to play every day for a month. I think

1634
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: that's where we probably are kind of like we're just

1635
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: waiting now. To be fair, I know they need to

1636
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: go through a lot of live especially the younger players,

1637
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: especially the guys that are the minor leaguers that you know,

1638
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: they want to see if they're ready to make the

1639
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: jump to the major leagues. I know it's very valuable.

1640
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: But not only that, Steve, then we have extended spring

1641
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: training after that, like it's it's like it's it's spring

1642
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: training is almost longer than the actual season itself.

1643
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 2: Do people bet on spring training baseb Oh, oh my god, Okay,

1644
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 2: So I I just there was a run back in

1645
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 2: the very brief time, as I mentioned earlier, that I

1646
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: was gambling the one sport I got rich off of

1647
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: was baseball, and it was it was a season in

1648
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: which the Dodgers pitching was dominant, and every game seemed

1649
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 2: to be a two to one game or three to

1650
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 2: two game. And so I just all I did was

1651
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 2: I played the under you know, total runs in the game.

1652
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: And I think that some incredible streak of like fourteen

1653
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: consecutive games the Dodgers went under, which seems unbelievable. And

1654
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: I just rode that pony for a while. But you

1655
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: mean there are actually people like wagering on spring training baseball?

1656
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh not. So here's the thing about these off markets.

1657
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: And when I say off markets, I mean you know

1658
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: markets that people you don't think of right off top

1659
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: of here, like NBA, NFL. You know, those are the

1660
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: obvious ones. If you know more than the average person

1661
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: in a market like spring training, for example, if you

1662
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: know this picture is trying something new today and it's

1663
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: probably not gonna work because he's never tried it before. Like,

1664
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: if you have that inside piece of you know, context,

1665
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: you have more information than the sports books about a

1666
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 1: market like Major League Baseball spring training games. If you

1667
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: have that piece of information about the NFL, like I

1668
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: know this team, this coach really likes this player doing this.

1669
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: That information is already baked into the market because these

1670
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: random game. Now here's the rub is, the limits are

1671
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: significantly lower on a spring training game than an NFL side.

1672
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: Like you can bet one hundred thousand that you can

1673
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: walk up to a casino Vegas drop one hundred thousand

1674
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: dollars on an NFL side, They won't bat an eye.

1675
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: You do that on a Major League Baseball spring training game,

1676
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: people could be like, Okay, what do you know? So

1677
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: the limits are lower. You only probably bet you know,

1678
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: ten percent maybe of what you can on a big

1679
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: NFL game. But the information isn't as widely available. So

1680
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: if you have that information, you have an edge on

1681
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: the sports book. So actually, the best professional gamblers that

1682
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: I know, the preseason NFL games they do better than

1683
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: the regular season because they have the information and the

1684
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: sports books don't have that baked into their number.

1685
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 2: Just yet, you would love this story. So back in

1686
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven, the NFL had replacement games. It was

1687
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: the only time in the history of the NFL, And

1688
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: you think how crazy this was. So I'm working for

1689
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 2: the Raiders at the time. The LA Raiders and we're

1690
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: two games into the season and then the players walk out.

1691
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: Think about this for a second. I believe at the

1692
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 2: time there were twenty eight teams in the NFL. They

1693
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: canceled Week three. Twenty eight NFL teams had two weeks

1694
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: to put together a roster simultaneously. I mean, still to

1695
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,480
Speaker 2: this day, the most mind boggling thing I can imagine,

1696
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 2: twenty eight NFL teams simultaneously in two weeks have to

1697
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 2: put together an entire roster without the Internet, without the

1698
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: Internet or anything. I mean it was just in fact,

1699
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 2: when you say no Internet, I'm like the media relations guy.

1700
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 2: I had to put together an impromptu media guide in

1701
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: a week and a half. A players, most of the players.

1702
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 2: I had no idea. It was will with no computers.

1703
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it was my mom all the time, how

1704
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: she got through college without the Internet.

1705
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 2: No Internet, no computers. I mean, I have a typewriter.

1706
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 2: So anyway, But anyway, here's the crazy thing about all this.

1707
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 2: So we had a lead up to this first week

1708
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 2: of these replacement games, and a couple of the Raiders

1709
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: scouts were coming to me saying, give me a hundred dollars,

1710
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars a lot of money for me at

1711
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,640
Speaker 2: the time, I go, why he goes, we have the

1712
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 2: because Vegas was frantic. How do you put odds out

1713
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: on these games?

1714
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Wow?

1715
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: You had no idea what to do. But they had

1716
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: to put numbers out because it was the NFL, and

1717
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: I didn't give them one hundred dollars. They had a

1718
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: six game parlay and every game cleared easy, unbelievable. I

1719
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,520
Speaker 2: would have won. What are the six game parlay?

1720
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: Just I mean it probably fifty to one pay.

1721
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was.

1722
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 2: It was like five six thousand bucks that I've got

1723
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: threw away, That's how crazy it was. But like you say,

1724
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 2: a lot of times, if you got any kind of

1725
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: insider information like they had on how the makeup of

1726
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: these teams were and Vegas was blind, they're like, ah,

1727
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: you couldn't blame it on how they were before the

1728
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: you know they were that first week they were just

1729
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: running blind and had to put out something and it

1730
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: was like easy pickings.

1731
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: So that's the difference between bookmaker and gambler. Yeah, the

1732
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: gambler can choose what they want to bet on. The

1733
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: bookmaker is forced to put up numbers on every single game.

1734
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: That and there, there aren't a lot of edges that

1735
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: the gambler has over the house for the most part,

1736
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: Like the casinos here in Vegas are bright, tall and

1737
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: shiny for a reason. But the really sharp, the sharpest

1738
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: of the sharps, like the Bill Krackenbergers who does the

1739
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 1: Sunday Show with us, like other professional gamblers that I

1740
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,879
Speaker 1: work with here in town. The real sharps understand where

1741
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: the cracks are and then have the right bankroll and

1742
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: the right network to exploit them. And it's again, it's

1743
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: a nuanced thing. Now we social media has blown this

1744
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: out of proportions. Everyone with everyone with a Twitter account,

1745
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: x account these days is a gambling expert. But the

1746
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: real gambling experts would never blast out their edge on

1747
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: social media to their however many followers, because once you

1748
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: do that, you lose your edge. So it's like this

1749
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: cat and mouse game that now, because gambling has become

1750
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 1: so popular, it's harder to find the edge because the

1751
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: information is so much much more widely available. Everybody wants

1752
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: the clout of being called a gambling expert, so once

1753
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: they get a piece of information from a respected pro,

1754
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: they just put it out there on their social media

1755
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: or they give it to all their friends because they

1756
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: want to sound cool. That is making the edges significantly

1757
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: harder to find.

1758
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: So the lucky list shoes do not live in that

1759
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: world anymore.

1760
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: Well lucky, I'll be honest, Like, the oscars markets have

1761
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: been up for so long now that there's not a

1762
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: lot of edge left. But that doesn't mean that we

1763
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: can't have fun and make bets on the Oscars. Like Conclave,

1764
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: as I said, was what like sixteen to one?

1765
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Yes, and so show especially Conclave to be a surprise

1766
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 2: Best Picture winner tonight.

1767
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: So if you bet Conclave at sixteen to one to

1768
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: win Best Picture, oh my goodness, you made the bet

1769
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: of the year, because that thing's gonna go off at

1770
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: probably two to one. It's probably gonna come down even

1771
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: more because I'm starting to tell my people, like, for example,

1772
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: I just tweeted out, I just set the list to shay.

1773
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I just tweeted it out. Everyone everyone knows what I'm

1774
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: on now. Yeah, And unfortunately, that's the that's the the

1775
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, the given that shared doing content is you

1776
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: have to make it public. But once you make it public,

1777
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: well and then your edge's gone.

1778
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, well, sorry to get it out there

1779
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 2: so quickly where other people couldn't take advantage. But if

1780
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 2: it works for you, Jared, I will be very.

1781
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a professional gambler, and I think that's a

1782
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: common misconception is a lot of people that do this

1783
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: on social media and on the shows like we're not

1784
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: professional gamblers, we just play them on TV and radio.

1785
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 2: Exactly the point. And I look at no one's been

1786
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: a worst prognosticator over these many years that I've been

1787
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: doing this because I'm expected to make my thoughts on

1788
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 2: who's gonna win, who's gonna lose. Very few times, am

1789
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,520
Speaker 2: I right? I was right about Matthew Stafford, though I'd guarantee.

1790
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: Who had all on that because a lot of people

1791
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: thought he was gone, I know.

1792
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 2: And I was like, if you make it the.

1793
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 1: Whole Raiders Montana thing, where Brady the way like some hold.

1794
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 2: On, hold on? So the Raiders have swung and missed

1795
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: at two main targets right now, Ben Johnson to be

1796
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 2: their head coach, yeah, and Matthew Stafford. So Tom Brady,

1797
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 2: this is the theres always a question about Tom Brady,

1798
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,919
Speaker 2: no questioning his resume as a quarterback put some firmly

1799
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: in position to be in the goat, but what can

1800
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 2: he do outside of that? And mixed reviews his first

1801
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 2: year as an announcer, and so far as a I

1802
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:24,560
Speaker 2: would imagine hands on administrator for the Raider organization. You

1803
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 2: think he's got klop right, he's Tom Brady so far?

1804
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 2: Oh for two? All right, coming up on the other side,

1805
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna switch scares. Get back to little Major League

1806
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 2: Baseball spring training. Talk thoughts about the Pete Rose Hall

1807
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: of Fame situation. Anything MLB the man hasn't covered, ore

1808
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 2: MLB insider John Paul Morosi, JP, keep it right here.

1809
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday. I'm watching the reg carpet

1810
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: situation for the Oscars tonight. Look, ealer shoes picks are in.

1811
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 2: You heard him here on Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin,

1812
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 2: Jared Smith. Jared has set the world to blaze.

1813
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 5: With his.

1814
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: Picks on the Oscars. It's amazing how you did that, Jar,

1815
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: Everything's changed.

1816
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited. Oh, I moved the market on Conclicte. It's

1817
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 1: down to plus one eighty now after all right, Well,

1818
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: I also gave him out, so I'm sure other people

1819
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: are betting them today. All right, Well, We'll see how

1820
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: this all plays out.

1821
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: Once again, we're live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

1822
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 2: It is an honor every single time that we have

1823
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 2: an opportunity to talk to this gentleman. He wanted to

1824
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 2: wait a second. Apparently John Paul Morosi got win of

1825
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 2: the Conclay pick and has decided to put down the

1826
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 2: phone for a second and make the pick. I guess

1827
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: he did. Johnny is right now. Is our Fox Sports

1828
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 2: Radio MLB insider, the one, the only, the Great John

1829
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 2: Paul Morosi.

1830
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 5: JP.

1831
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: I know you're a Michigan man through and through. Do

1832
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: you have any interest at all in the Academy Awards?

1833
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 7: Steven Jared the Good Afternoon. I have minimal interest only

1834
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 7: as so far as I have not watched many of

1835
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 7: the movies. I saw a Conclave, which I understand is

1836
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 7: on many of the short lists. But to be honest

1837
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 7: with you, I just I've got my baseball, I've got

1838
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,719
Speaker 7: my hockey, and I've got all the stuff my kids watch,

1839
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 7: and aside from that, I don't have a lot of

1840
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 7: time to watch much else.

1841
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 2: All right, Jared's got a lot of questions. I have one,

1842
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 2: right out of the box baseball question. So Pete Ross

1843
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 2: is back in the news because of President Trump's pardon

1844
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 2: that he is saying that he's going to give the

1845
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 2: late Gray Pete Rose. Let me ask you this, as

1846
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 2: a voter yourself for the Hall of Fame, if Pete

1847
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 2: Rose's name was on the ballot, which it's never been,

1848
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 2: if Pete Rose's name was on the Baseball Hall of

1849
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 2: Fame ballot, what would you do?

1850
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 7: I would not vote for him because of this. I

1851
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 7: My philosophy on voting for players who have had significant

1852
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 7: disciplinary action against them in a baseball context, which obvious

1853
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 7: he Rose has, is that if you if your transgressions

1854
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 7: rose to the level of a suspension of a significant length,

1855
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 7: which of course in the case of Rose it did.

1856
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 7: It also did for people like Alex Rodriguez for BDS,

1857
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 7: and did for Manny or Mirrors as well. And so

1858
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 7: I don't vote for a rod I don't vote for Manny,

1859
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 7: I would not vote for Rose. I do vote, and

1860
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 7: then I have voted have in the past for bonds

1861
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 7: and clements because they were not suspended. Now some may say,

1862
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 7: how can you, how can you draw that distinction? The

1863
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 7: reality is it is a very very difficult line to draw,

1864
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 7: and I draw it at the line of was the

1865
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 7: player suspended under Baseball's rules, and in the case of Rose,

1866
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 7: obviously he was. I think that this this case and

1867
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 7: and the conversations surrounding it are are very interesting. It's

1868
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 7: certainly it's an interesting conversation. If if he were to

1869
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 7: be retroactively oosthumously reinstated by Major League Baseball. Hypothetically, if

1870
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 7: that happens, we are still a long way from him

1871
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 7: even getting on a ballot to be considered by the

1872
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame. His period of time to be considered

1873
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 7: by the writers is done, so that will not happen

1874
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 7: because the writers, they only have a jurisdiction on a

1875
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,759
Speaker 7: player for a certain number of years after he's retired. Basically,

1876
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 7: it's within the twenty years of his retirement are actually

1877
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 7: now it's fifteen, so fifteen years of his retirement that's

1878
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 7: the only window in which the player is considered by

1879
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 7: the writers. So he's off of our ballot consideration. He'd

1880
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 7: be right to the Veterans Committee, which meets with a

1881
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 7: screening committee first, with heavy oversight by the Hall of

1882
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 7: Fame chairman, Board of Directors. So basically, unless the Hall

1883
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 7: of Fame, the power structure of the Hall. Unless the

1884
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 7: Hall decides that they want this to happen, it will

1885
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 7: not happen, no matter what the Commissioner's Office says or

1886
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 7: any other entity. It's just it's up to the Hall

1887
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 7: of Fame. And so I see that. I see a

1888
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 7: decision by either the White House or or Major League

1889
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 7: Baseball as being completely separate and really not all that

1890
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 7: linked to the decision made by people in Cooperstown.

1891
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: I respect her candor JP, because that's really all you

1892
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 1: can have is you have your values, and you vote

1893
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: according to what your values are, and and that consistency

1894
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 1: is admirable. Let's get to what I think is one

1895
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: of the most intriguing divisions in baseball this year, the

1896
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 1: NL Central the Brewers. This has been their division. You know,

1897
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: three out of the last four years they've won it.

1898
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: Woodrif's coming off the injury. We'll see how that, you know,

1899
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: shapes out. Of course, they brought in nest Cortez in

1900
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: the off season. You hope him and Sabali can kind of,

1901
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, seal up the back end of that rotation.

1902
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 1: But the Cubs are the favorite. I guess the questions

1903
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: two Part A. Do the Cubs deserve to be the

1904
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: favorite based on what they've done in the off season,

1905
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: and and b is woodrif's injury coming along, where you

1906
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have an impact early in the year.

1907
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jorda, and two really important questions. First of all,

1908
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 7: the Cubs eight and O by the way they're they're

1909
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 7: fixed and Cactus League play, and you would have thought

1910
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 7: that they were actually losing earlier to day to the Reds,

1911
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 7: and even now they're having a rally. They closed the

1912
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 7: gap to five to three, and they've still gotten met

1913
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 7: on base. So who knows. Maybe they maybe they're gonna

1914
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 7: have a perfect Cactus League season. But I mean that,

1915
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 7: of course in jest. The reality is that the Cubs

1916
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 7: are a better team now than they were when we

1917
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 7: last saw them at the end of the season. You

1918
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 7: bring in Kyle Tucker, I think you address some other

1919
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 7: areas of need with with moves that they've made. I

1920
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 7: like what the Cubs have done. The Brewers are are

1921
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 7: still close. I actually was just in Brewers camp the

1922
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 7: last couple of days in Arizona. Woodrift the idea is

1923
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 7: that he will make an impact in the first half

1924
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 7: of the season more than likely, but not on opening day.

1925
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 7: I think he is. They're They're not really trying to

1926
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 7: rush him to get ready for opening Day. It's more

1927
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 7: of a probably by the my May May one is

1928
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 7: probably a safe estimate giver take a couple of weeks.

1929
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 7: But they have in Freddie Peralta someone who's more than

1930
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 7: capable of starting on opening Day. Still like their bullpen.

1931
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 7: They don't have Devin Williams anymore, they traded them to

1932
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 7: the Yankees. We expect mcgil will get a lot of

1933
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 7: closing duties for them early on. Yellich is back healthy,

1934
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 7: Jackson Curio I think is only going to get better

1935
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 7: year over year. They may have a young player Durbin

1936
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 7: who they got on the Williams trade that may play

1937
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 7: their base for them. So I think it's fair to

1938
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 7: point to paint the Cubs as the favorites, but we

1939
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 7: have seen it many times before. You dismiss the Brewers

1940
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 7: at your own peril. And I also happen to think

1941
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 7: that the Reds are going to be a much better

1942
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 7: ball club this year than they were last year, with

1943
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 7: some young talent and one of the more electrifying talents

1944
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 7: in the game in.

1945
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 3: Eli de la Cruz.

1946
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,879
Speaker 2: I want to ask about one of last year's biggest stories.

1947
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 2: Paul skeins, you unbelievable starts. Started the All Star Game,

1948
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: ended up the season with a sub two ERA Rookie

1949
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 2: of the Year third in the Cy Young voting. Apparently

1950
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 2: in his first springing back, he's coming up with a

1951
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 2: two seam fastball. He's got a cutter. I mean, this

1952
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 2: guy is adding to his repertoire. You've seen a lot

1953
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 2: of pitchers over the years, JP. When I think of

1954
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: the three most dominant pitchers over the last decade plus,

1955
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 2: you have Scherzer, you have Verlander, you had Kershaw. Do

1956
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 2: you see that possibility of Paul Skeen's being of that

1957
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 2: ILK as being a dominant starter for an extended period

1958
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 2: of time.

1959
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 7: I do it all. Of course, it all comes down

1960
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 7: to health. But he is, and and this is maybe

1961
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 7: the irony in this conversation. He's probably the best pitching

1962
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 7: prospect pure prospects since Strasbourg, and Strasburg of course had

1963
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,640
Speaker 7: his career cut short by injury, even the more dazzling

1964
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 7: pitchers like de Gram there just there hasn't been the

1965
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 7: amount of sample size for a Hall of Fame case

1966
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 7: yet for him, just because he's been hurt so much.

1967
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,799
Speaker 7: But do I think that Skeens can have a career

1968
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,919
Speaker 7: like Verlander, like Schuzer. Absolutely, It's a long way between

1969
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 7: the answer I'm giving you right now and actually doing it,

1970
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 7: because health and consistency are a huge reason why. But

1971
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 7: I will say this, all the markers are there for

1972
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 7: someone who I believe has the makeup to do it.

1973
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 7: He really seems to have a real discipline and certainly

1974
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 7: bitched at Air Force, so he's got that as part

1975
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 7: of his background. But I like the discipline nature of

1976
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 7: the way he goes about his work and the manner

1977
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 7: in which he took upon the mantle of starting the

1978
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 7: All Star Game, and he didn't get carried away with it.

1979
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 7: He treated it with the respect and the reverence that

1980
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 7: assignment deserves. He does, I think, in his own understated way,

1981
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 7: have a good time competing and enjoying the game. But

1982
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 7: he strikes me as the type of disciplined competitor that

1983
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 7: Verlander is, that Schuzer is. Those guys I covered in

1984
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 7: both in Detroit for years and they both both Justin

1985
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 7: and Max arrived at the ballpark every day of their

1986
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 7: careers and still do to this point. Even though they're

1987
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 7: not this anymore, but they show up believing they're the

1988
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 7: best in the world every day. That's that's how they

1989
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 7: just engage with the universe. And Skeins doesn't necessarily have

1990
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 7: a He's not gonna have this big swagger where he

1991
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 7: talks about it a bunch, but you can tell when

1992
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 7: you're watching him and when you're around him that he's

1993
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 7: got that level of confidence. I think Skeens just hope

1994
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,840
Speaker 7: he's blessed with health, and if he is, he'll be

1995
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 7: in Cooperstown one day.

1996
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. I haven't seen a player as young as him

1997
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 1: be as highly regarded the in the betting markets. I mean,

1998
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: he is a prohibitive favorite two to one to win

1999
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 1: the Cy Young where Zach Wheeler the next guy on

2000
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: the list eight to one. That's a big gap between

2001
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 1: Skeens and the rest of the market. So that's assuming

2002
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 1: a lot out of a kid that again just is

2003
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: figuring out how to pitch in Major League Baseball, but

2004
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: he's doing it pretty well. Another big favorite the National

2005
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,799
Speaker 1: League West. I mean, the Dodgers are just a runaway

2006
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: freight train. I guess the question JP is, I know,

2007
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: over the long haul, it's really tough to outrun a

2008
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 1: team like LA with all that firepower. But is there

2009
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: a team in the National League West that has any

2010
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 1: chance of upsetting the Dodgers to win that division? Or

2011
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: are we just wasting our time and money.

2012
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,560
Speaker 7: I think that the Diamondbacks have a legitimate shot. The Padres.

2013
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 7: It's amazing. And the Dodgers, they were the most talented

2014
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 7: team last year. They've only gotten better. They have what

2015
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 7: appears to be an eighteen man rotation right now, so

2016
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 7: they've got plenty of They got plenty of talent. They're

2017
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 7: a better team now than they were a year ago.

2018
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 7: They're scary. The d Backs have a really good team.

2019
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 7: They also signed Corbyn Burns and less we forget the

2020
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 7: Padres were one game away from knocking them out in

2021
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 7: the first round. Okay, so the Padres came out with

2022
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 7: one more quality performance in Game four or Game five,

2023
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 7: that series ends and the Dodgers season is over, and

2024
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 7: it's a very different conversation. The other thing I want

2025
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 7: to point out, because I know both of you do

2026
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 7: a lot of work both locally and nationally, this is

2027
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 7: the thing I want everybody to remember when we hear

2028
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 7: so much Oh my gosh, the game is all about

2029
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 7: the big markets, and it's in New York and LA

2030
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:12,560
Speaker 7: and if anybody else wins it, it's going to be

2031
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 7: a surprised. On this date last year, people were actually saying,

2032
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 7: we have to redo the entire format of the playoffs

2033
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 7: because we just had a World Series that featured the

2034
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 7: Rangers and the Diamondback that was a year ago, with

2035
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 7: the same sport, the same teams, the same rules, the

2036
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:36,640
Speaker 7: same everything, and people were saying, the war is the

2037
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 7: large market team that wins their division. Whatever can we

2038
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 7: do to show greater compassion for the Dodgers and Yankees

2039
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 7: for their plight is just without optimism, but what could

2040
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 7: ever happen to them? So let's just put it. I

2041
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 7: wanted to mention that because I think that there's all

2042
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 7: this we're getting carried away here with the love and

2043
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 7: the inevitability of the Dodgers. Yes, they are the best team.

2044
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 7: They probably should win the World again, but you could

2045
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 7: have said that about them and the Yankees many times

2046
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 7: in the last decade. And the Yankees last championship was

2047
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 7: in two thousand and nine, and the Dodgers have won

2048
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 7: two since nineteen eighty eight. So it's we gotta be

2049
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 7: careful with getting too carried away by the recent results. Yes,

2050
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 7: they've got a great team. They're going to start the

2051
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 7: season in Japan. It's gonna be awesome. But I expect

2052
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 7: the Cubs to take one of those two games in Japan.

2053
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 7: Why not, because we saw the Podreys they split with

2054
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 7: them in Korea last year, and the Cubs have a

2055
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 7: quality ball club. So the gap between the Dodgers and

2056
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 7: everybody else is not as big as the payroll would suggest.

2057
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 2: Well, again, I have a lot of friends in San

2058
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 2: Diego that we're getting ready to celebrate. Hey, for Orlano,

2059
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 2: the gas lamp was ready to roll. The Dodgers had

2060
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 2: to have a bullpen day, and I must win Game

2061
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 2: four against the Podrays in San Diego. They got that

2062
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 2: win and the rest was history. So I'm with you. Yeah,

2063
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 2: it is interesting to Juxtable was a Rangers Diamondbacks World

2064
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 2: Series leading up to a Dodgers Yankees World Series?

2065
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,759
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, it's the same sports. And again, the last

2066
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 7: time we had back to back world champions in this

2067
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 7: sport was the Yankees in two thousand. Yeah, that was

2068
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 7: the last time. So it's been a quarter century, so

2069
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 7: I really and again right now, yes, we're talking a

2070
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 7: ton about Dodgers, Mets, Yankees to some extent Boston. Yeah,

2071
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 7: like the big market teams are having a bit of

2072
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 7: a moment right now. They are, But there's a big

2073
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 7: difference between winning a bunch of regular season games and

2074
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 7: being able to have the Commissioner's Trophy at the end,

2075
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 7: and we have not seen the team do it in

2076
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 7: back to back years in twenty five years. So if

2077
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 7: any I mean again, it's a lot of people think

2078
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 7: the Dodgers will win, and then there's a decent chance

2079
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 7: they'll be right. But remember this, if that is in

2080
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 7: Jared's world, that's where you're putting your investment right now.

2081
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 7: Bear in mind, and you're expecting something to happen that's

2082
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 7: never happened in the last twenty five years.

2083
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 2: JP, great stuff is always thanks for joining us. We'll

2084
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 2: talk to you next week.

2085
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 7: Can't wait for next week. It was a great pleasure, Stephen,

2086
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 7: Jared to have a great weekend.

2087
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 2: All the best that there is, the great John Paul Morosi,

2088
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 2: good stuff. Yeah, you're a baseball guy. I love baseball.

2089
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Let's get in there is wedding the appetite right now.

2090
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,839
Speaker 1: Jared, Oh, I'm ready I'm really My favorite betting baseball

2091
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: is called the nerfy.

2092
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Oh hold it, hold on, I want to hear it.

2093
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:27,679
Speaker 1: On the other side.

2094
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 2: I want to break this down because there are a

2095
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: lot of people that shy away. They bet on football,

2096
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 2: maybe they bet on the little hoops. They don't really

2097
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 2: know how to bet on baseball. Jared's going to fill

2098
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 2: you in on the other side, but first let's find

2099
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 2: out what is trending right now.

2100
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 1: Martin is back. It's had a long day here as I.

2101
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 6: Have a sneaking suspicion that Jared is going to also

2102
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 6: educate you or what a nerfy is.

2103
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 2: I have no idea. That's not a nerve done. When

2104
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 2: he said the word, I immediately redirected because I have

2105
01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 2: no idea what he's talking about. But I'm going to

2106
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 2: find out like everybody else.

2107
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody knows. I do though.

2108
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 6: Just for the record, Jared and I've actually followed some

2109
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 6: of your Yes.

2110
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: No, first, you know, I appreciate you both. It's my thing.

2111
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:12,680
Speaker 1: You know what, great everyone has a thing.

2112
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 6: Great way to watch a baseball Anyway, let's get to

2113
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 6: the business. The New York Jets could per at Ian

2114
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:24,560
Speaker 6: Rappaport are considering releasing wide receiver Devontae Adams should the

2115
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,839
Speaker 6: team not be able to trade him, but the Jets

2116
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 6: are taking calls.

2117
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 5: The Celtics beat the Nuggets one ten to one oh three.

2118
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 6: Jalen Brown led the Celtics with twenty two points and

2119
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 6: eight assists, Al Horford with nineteen. Jason Tatum only one

2120
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 6: for seven from three, he finished with sixteen points. Jamal

2121
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 6: Murray led Denver with twenty six. Jokic an assist away

2122
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 6: from a triple double with twenty points, fourteen rebounds, and

2123
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 6: nine Boston approved to forty three and eighteen.

2124
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 5: Right now, we have.

2125
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 6: The Portland Trailblazers and the Cleveland Cavaliers.

2126
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 5: Four minutes left in the first half. Oh, come on,

2127
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 5: where did it go?

2128
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Speaker 6: It was four minutes left in the first half, forty

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Speaker 6: two to forty two. If there's been any update from there, No,

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Speaker 6: there we go. Are four minutes left in the first half.

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Speaker 6: They're in a commercial break right now, forty two to

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Speaker 6: forty two. Earlier today, in college basketball, Michigan State beat

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Speaker 6: Wisconsin the eighth rank Spartans with a seventy one to

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Speaker 6: sixty two wind. Jayden Aikins led them in scoring with

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01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 6: nineteen points. We have fifteenth rank in Michigan playing Illinois

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01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 6: right now. That score is Illinois twenty nine to twenty

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Speaker 6: five with about two thirty two left in the first half.

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Speaker 5: Just under eight minutes left in.

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Speaker 6: The first half between Memphis and UAB, Memphis trailing twenty

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01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 6: two to sixteen. In the NHL, the Maple Leafs beat

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01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Penguins six to five. Almost wrote pirates. There's

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01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 6: all that scheme stuck. Almost But at the end of

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01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 6: the first period here it's the Bruins and the wild

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01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 6: all knotted up at zero.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of neur feast? I have no idea.

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01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think guess.

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01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 2: Nerfy Well, you have a nerf ball show. So no

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Speaker 2: correlation none. I can think of no correlation. But the

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Speaker 2: good news is I have this special time with jar

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01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 2: where I can actually find this out. You're going to

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01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 2: find it. Take them to school, all right? Once again,

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Speaker 2: a reminder, thank you very much, Martin. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, and don't forget after the show, our podcast

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01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 2: is going up. So if you miss any of today's show,

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01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:30,440
Speaker 2: including Lucky Lishoe's predictions on tonight's oscars, check out the podcast.

2156
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 2: and then follow rate and review the podcast. Again. Just

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Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll

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Speaker 2: see the show posted right after we get off the air.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jared, So educate me right now on nurfy.

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Speaker 2: What are we talking about? And how do you bet baseball?

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01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 3: So?

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01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 1: The biggest complaint, so the usually the betting markets these days,

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01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 1: people who bet on games, the majority of them are

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Speaker 1: actually casual fans and they just want to make games

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01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: more exciting. So what's the biggest complaint. Well, we'll do

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01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 1: this in question and answer for him. The biggest complaint

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Speaker 1: the casual fan has about baseball today? What is that?

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Speaker 3: Steve?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 2: The games are too long?

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01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 1: You long, too barring, blah blah blah. That's why the

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01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 1: new rules were clocks. Yeah, all that stuff. So how

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Speaker 1: do we make the casual fan more excited to watch

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01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 1: a baseball game? While we just chop off the last

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Speaker 1: eight innings and we just focus on the first inning.

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Speaker 1: So the NERFY stands for no run first inning and

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Speaker 1: RFI nerfy all right.

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Speaker 2: I like this, all right, and essentially it's just one

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Speaker 2: first inning nerfy.

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Speaker 1: Alright, that's it. It's a yes or no bet. Will

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01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: there be a run scored in the first thing. There

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Speaker 1: could be ten runs scored in the first inning, doesn't matter. Yes, no,

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01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 1: will at least had one run be scored in the

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Speaker 1: first inning? Now, typically, well, I mean, what give us

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01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: some numbers here?

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01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Alright, So what percentage of games in Major League Baseball

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01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,759
Speaker 2: all have a run scored in the first inning?

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01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 1: So usually hold on, Actually, let me pull up my chart.

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01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: I'll give you the exact number from last year.

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Speaker 2: This is kind stuff.

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01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 1: This is well, I track every single one and I

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01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 1: tracked the playoffs too, which is absolutely fantastic. So last

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01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 1: year it was about fifty three percent of games had

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01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 1: no run in the first inning. Okay, so the nerfe

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01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 1: should be favored. It was actually a really historically good

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Speaker 1: year for the nervous.

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Speaker 2: Now is this uh to interject for a second here? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: can you bet on just a single team not scoring

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01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 2: in the first or it's a collective first inning?

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Speaker 1: It is a So the bet at its purest form

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01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: is both teams top and bottom of the first But

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01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: then there are derivatives of that bet, where you can say,

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01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 1: will the Astros score a run in the first inning?

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01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: Yes or no. Now, obviously those odds significantly higher because

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01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 1: you're just getting three outs instead of six. But the

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01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: reason why this bet is so popular is because we

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01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: live in a society that is instant gratification. So instead

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Speaker 1: of having a wait or a nine inning game, literally

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01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: the first now I have one end because you can

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01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 1: also bet the other side. Right, you can bet the

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01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: your feet yes run first inning or the nerfeet no

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01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 1: run first inning. Now I have one and lost these

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Speaker 1: bets before Steve on the first pitch of the game.

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01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 1: There is no bigger thrill or agony than winning or

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01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: losing a bet in one pitch. Okay, Yll Schorer's known

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Speaker 1: for this first pitch.

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Speaker 2: Boom home run, all right, So bottom of the first inning,

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01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 2: no hits, nothing, zero, two pitch and a guy hits

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01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 2: a home run and you lose the bet, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's brutal.

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01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 1: But so that would be brutal, And I've lost bets

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01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 1: like that before too. So I've also lost bets where

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01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: an error or something very unforeseen, like you know, ball

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01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 1: hits a pebble goes into left field and and a

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01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 1: run scores based off of that. Now, the timer, it's

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01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: a cruel bet. You could do everything right and then

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01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 1: something like that could happen. But again, because of the

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01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: culture that we live in, these bets have become wildly popular.

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01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: So I took it to the next level. Over the

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Speaker 1: last three years, I've tracked every single game. I've tracked

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01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: every single team, I've tracked all the odds, and it's

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01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 1: a market that again, right, if you're talking about how

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01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: to find an edge in a baseball game, well, the

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01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: actual game itself everything's kind of baked in. But when

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01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 1: you take those derivatives and you really boil it down

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01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 1: to six outs one inning, then you can maybe start

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01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 1: to find Hey, this picture, because what is the one

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 1: thing you know for sure in every game? The first inning,

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Speaker 1: you have one, two to three in the order, and

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Speaker 1: I know who the picture is. Once I get past

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01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: the first inning, I have no idea who's gonna be

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01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:39,560
Speaker 1: up in the order. I have no idea who the

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01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 1: pitcher is going to be. So betting on a full game,

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01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 1: there's a lot of unknowns. I know exactly the sequence

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01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 1: of events that's going to take place in the first inning.

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01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 1: It's the most known commodity in any baseball game. Who's

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01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: at the top of the order. Really, you only have

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01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 1: to handicap the top five hitters, wow, and then the pitcher,

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Speaker 1: and you can do splits. This guy's really good against

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Speaker 1: this team. And the other thing is handicapping the pictures,

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01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 1: some elite pictures like Max Shurs or Garrett Cole. They

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01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 1: get a little amped up in the first inning, right,

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01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 1: what's the age old cliche, get them early or you

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01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 1: don't get them. So you get a lot of these

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Speaker 1: odds where it's like, oh, Max Shure's is on the

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01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:14,960
Speaker 1: mound today, he's gonna pitch a shutout in the first inning. Well,

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01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,439
Speaker 1: it gets at lamped up early, throws a fastball right

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01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 1: down the middle and it's gone.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't give up around the rest of the game.

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01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 1: So again that's where the angles are in baseball, and

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01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: that's where I've had a ton of I mean, this

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01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,679
Speaker 1: has been three years of this now with these Nerfy bets,

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01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 1: it's been an absolute blast and they become very popular

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01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 1: in the market.

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Speaker 2: See, I think about a lot of times you hear

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01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 2: these ace pitchers. They always say you got to get

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01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 2: it to them, get them early, because if you don't,

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01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:42,799
Speaker 2: then they settle in and it's lights out. The good stuff.

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01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,640
Speaker 2: So now, like the Nerfy is, it's got to be

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01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 2: wildly popular the.

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01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 1: Way you're people go crazy for the right bets.

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01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna take advantage of Jerry's presence on the

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01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 2: show today because on the other side, we're going to

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01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 2: talk about what's hot right now? Okay, what's hot? He's

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01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 2: hanging in Vegas. This is where he is. He of courses,

2278
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 2: are betting analysts, so he's got it all down. What's

2279
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 2: hot right now? What should you be taking paying attention

2280
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 2: to on the sports market. We'll break it down. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Jared Smith. Here, Fox

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01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We are live from the ti iraq dot

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01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 2: Com studio. So I thank our crew today, Martin who

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01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 2: fills many roles here. He just finished the show and

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01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 2: then did updates on this show. Chris, who lent his

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01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 2: expertise on the Academy Awards today, as long as the

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01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 2: resurgence of his beloved Detroit Pistons.

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01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 8: It's right, Pistons, Yeah, Pistons, Detroit basketball.

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01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff.

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01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 8: It is a It's it's funny because I you know,

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01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 8: you know me, I do Lions content, but I the

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 8: Pistons are kind of like my it's a guilty pleasure,

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01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 8: but it's not one I've been able to enjoy probably

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01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 8: for about fifteen years.

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01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 2: They were I mean, they went to seven consecutive Eastern

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01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:57,320
Speaker 2: Conference finals right in your heyday when you're young, right,

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01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: My senior year in high school was four Yeah, exactly,

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01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: So that that makes a lot of sense. And of course,

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01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 2: our brilliant producer Shay who just continues to accelerate into

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01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 2: superstardom here at Fox Sports Radio. It's too nice.

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01:55:10,720 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 1: Come on, no, I don't know, it's compare me with

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01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 1: you and I just keep going up.

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01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 2: We try to we try to do our best. I'll

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01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 2: tell you. It's been phenomenal today, is Jared. Jared's been

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01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 2: unreal today because it's a unique angle. Jared. You know

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01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 2: you're I find your odyssey interesting, you know you you

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01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: you know I've read your bio. You know I had

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01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:31,920
Speaker 2: to catch up, like I you know, who's this kid?

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01:55:32,240 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 2: And of course I see the whole Penn State thing.

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01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, no, should have known, should have known,

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01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 2: would never be rid of that college? No, no, no, no,

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01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 2: But I mean you've sort of migrated into this world

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01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 2: of being a betting analyst. Obviously here on the we

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01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 2: you know, during the football season we count down to

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01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 2: kickoff and everything else. It's always been a passion years

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01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 2: Otherwise you wouldn't do this, uh and so. But the

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01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 2: one thing about being immersed in that world. And yeah,

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01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 2: I one of my very first sponsors when I did

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01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 2: my first talk show was the Olympiad, which was the

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01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 2: first sportsbook in Las Vegas at Caesar's Palace. And one

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01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 2: of the guys that was a dear friend of mine.

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01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 2: Well it was Lou Diamico and Vinnie Maulo.

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01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I know him both. Vinnie.

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01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 2: I worked with Vinnie. Well, if you see Vinnie, say

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01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: Steve Harty says high. But literally they were sponsors of

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01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 2: our show. And to show you how crazy this is.

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01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 2: My first year was nineteen eighty nine. We would bring

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01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 2: one of the two on at five o'clock West Coast

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01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 2: time to start to talk about what's going on at

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Speaker 2: the Olympiad. And it was Game three of the World Series.

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01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,960
Speaker 2: Was that day they were about to have the game

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Speaker 2: on and they said, wow, we just lost our transmission.

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Speaker 1: That was the day of the earthquake at the.

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Speaker 2: Giants Ace and we were at such a primitive little

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01:56:56,440 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 2: radio station. We didn't even have a wire service, so

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01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 2: one of us might have said, wow, what happened to earthquake

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Speaker 2: or something that we had no idea. They just had

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Speaker 2: lost their transmission at the Olympiad in Las Vegas. So

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01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 2: I know what it's about. It it's an incredible world.

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01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 2: I really end of your situation there. But the one

2341
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: thing about being a part of it is like, you know,

2342
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 2: you want to sort of lend your expertise. You know

2343
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 2: what's hot what's not right now? So what's hot right now?

2344
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean where people turning for there? I mean once

2345
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 2: the NFL season ends, you know, and obviously the whole

2346
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: world's making some sort of bet on the Super Bowl.

2347
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 2: Where do you go from there?

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01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 1: It's all college basketball. I think it's actually a very

2349
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 1: seamless transition, like my sports calendar. So this is the

2350
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 1: fifth year that I've been a professional betting analyst, And

2351
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 1: you know it was it started in sports broadcasting, and

2352
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: then I took kind of a finance route when when

2353
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 1: I settled down to New York and got married, and

2354
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 1: then the marriage ended, and then all of a sudden

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01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to get back into broadcasting, and that's when

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01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: that was twenty nineteen when Passporal was repealed. Is twenty

2357
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 1: eighteen when Passport was repealed, But eight twenty nine teen

2358
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: is when all these networks said, hey, there's there's some

2359
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 1: content demand here. And I had a friend reach out

2360
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: to me and say, hey, you know, I remember back

2361
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: at Penn State. There you go another call back to

2362
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 1: early in the show that I remember it used to

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01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: be a big gambling college. Do you still want to Can

2364
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: you talk about it? Because you know, we're going from

2365
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 1: the Fantasy network to the to the gambling network and

2366
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 1: we need people who can talk about it. And that

2367
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: just put my you know, career back on a rocket

2368
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 1: ship because I was struggling in broadcasting. I was a

2369
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 1: local news reporter in New York for a number of

2370
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 1: years until I, you know, got into the finance realm.

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01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: But what this does is it allows you to approach

2372
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 1: the the gambling markets like a sports calendar. Because the

2373
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 1: public loves the NFL, loved the Super Bowl, and then

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01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: March Madness is as bad on as the super Bowl.

2375
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Like that week you're referring to Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday

2376
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 1: almost as much handle or if not more than the

2377
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,360
Speaker 1: actual Super Bowl itself. So we get this nice little

2378
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 1: transition into March Madness, and then things kind of calm

2379
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: down a little bit. April May will get the Draft,

2380
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 1: and then we'll get the NBA playoffs, and then we

2381
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,320
Speaker 1: just reset the cycle once again again as we get

2382
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 1: to the summer in the NFL. So right now I'm

2383
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: fully focused in college basketball, and I think over the

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01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: next two weeks conference tournaments, especially starting up, you will

2385
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: start to hear a lot more buzz around the NCAA

2386
01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:14,720
Speaker 1: tournament and people betting on it. If you are a

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01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 1: March Madness fan.

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01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 2: This is something else I recommend, and my friends and

2389
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 2: I did this years ago.

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01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 3: Right.

2391
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 2: Will we take in that first weekend all four days

2392
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 2: in Vegas? Yeah, you get rooms and then you just

2393
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 2: sit in the sports book just you know, how many

2394
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 2: bets can you make as many?

2395
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: The limit does not exist.

2396
01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 2: Sixteen games on Thursdays, sixteen games on Friday, eight games

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01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 2: on Saturday, eight games on Sunday. It is an absolute

2398
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 2: How do you spend that first week in Vegas?

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01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 1: I am usually very busy, and I am also usually

2400
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,000
Speaker 1: locked in my command center, and I don't see the

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01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 1: light of day until like Sunday night. That's usually how

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01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 1: it goes for me.

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01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, I'll tell you how spoiled them is the

2404
01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 2: UCLA basketball. I don't even care UCLA making the tournament

2405
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:03,600
Speaker 2: if they don't make it to the second weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds about it.

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02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't unless there's a Sweet sixteen attached to a season,

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02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 2: that season was a waste. Absolutely, Hey, Jared, great stuff today.

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Speaker 2: I always appreciate the time. Thanks so much. Keep it

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.