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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why won't she go away?

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Speaker 1: Why does she keep resurfacing again? Anna Delvy aka Anna Sorkin,

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Speaker 1: the con artist, has reared her ugly head. Yes, she's

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Speaker 1: at it again. The fake heiress caught in a new scandal,

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Speaker 1: this time involving bunnies. You know, the hippie hoppy type

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Speaker 1: of a little creature. Bunnies. Yes, bunnies. The con artists

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Speaker 1: who ripped her friends and others off to the tune

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Speaker 1: of around one hundred thousand dollars plus. Anna Delvy now

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Speaker 1: accused of cruelly dumping baby bunnies in a public park

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Speaker 1: after she used them in a photo shoot, left them

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Speaker 1: out there to die. It never ends with this woman.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I see Grace. This is Crime Stories, and

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the fake heiress con artist caught in a brand new scandal,

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Speaker 1: this time about bunnies. The Russian whose real name is

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Speaker 1: Anna Sorkin, known for posing as a German heiress to

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Speaker 1: climb the social ladder in Manhattan and defrauding a series

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Speaker 1: of banks, hotels, and individuals. I mentioned over one hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and that was her friends. But she ripped

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Speaker 1: off other people to the tune of about two hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand dollars. That's over a quarter of

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Speaker 1: a million dollars. And now she uses little bunnies in

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Speaker 1: a photoshoot and then they're found abandoned in a public

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Speaker 1: park in Brooklyn. Now, Delvy squear she has no idea

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Speaker 1: how the bunnies were found for her photoshoot, and some

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Speaker 1: teen kit assistant has amazingly taken responsibility. According to a

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Speaker 1: Reddit user, a rabbit named Parker was rescued from a

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Speaker 1: park and placed in foster care. Three days later, another

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Speaker 1: rabbit is found in Prospect Park. That bunny saved as well.

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Speaker 1: Neighbors and others were alerted and everyone noticed. Both of

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Speaker 1: the rabbits look identical to the ones penned by Anna

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Speaker 1: Delviy on Instagram. The images show her posing on York

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Speaker 1: streets with two bunnies on leeds Well. The internet went

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Speaker 1: wild to that. Delvy goes online and insists the bunnies

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Speaker 1: were borrowed for the shute and they are safe at

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Speaker 1: home with their owners. She put that on insta. Initially,

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Speaker 1: the assistant did the bunnies were found in the park abandoned,

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Speaker 1: but later released a statement claiming that he was responsible.

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Speaker 1: Under other controversy surrounding Anna Delvi, the fake Heiress. Do

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Speaker 1: you remember what happened? Because I sure do. Let's take

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Speaker 1: a little flashback.

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Speaker 2: With an extravagant lifestyle and a seemingly endless supply of money,

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Speaker 2: delv was an enigma that was made for the age

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Speaker 2: of Instagram, always at the right place with the right people,

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Speaker 2: living her best life, but with no apparent cause for

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Speaker 2: her fame. Her circle of acquaintances was fed various stories

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Speaker 2: as to how she accumulated her vast wealth.

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Speaker 1: Her father was a Russian billionaire, a Russian.

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Speaker 2: Diplomat, an oil tycoon, a Russian antiques collector, or a

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Speaker 2: solar energy capitalist. While many parts of Delvy's story were fluid,

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Speaker 2: some things were consistent. Delvy made no effort to hide

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Speaker 2: her internship at the Paris magazine Purple, and made it

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Speaker 2: very clear that her dream was to open a soho

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Speaker 1: And quote upset fake German era and a Serrokean guilty

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Speaker 1: of grand larceny after a life of fake ripping people

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Speaker 1: off to nearly a quarter of a million dollars that

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Speaker 1: we know of, who would believe a Russian heiress and

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Speaker 1: fork over thousands of dollars? And in court she was

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Speaker 1: more upset about her designer clothing wardrobe than she was

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Speaker 1: about being found guilty. Now that's unusual. This girl and

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Speaker 1: a serrocan also known as Anna Delviy, somehow manages to

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Speaker 1: con so ho Elite out of a quarter of a

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Joining me in all star lineup Jeff Cortize,

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Speaker 1: former FBI special agent. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of

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Speaker 1: Red Flags, Doctor William in July psychologist in John Limley

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Speaker 1: crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter John Limley help me out.

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Speaker 1: This girl shows up. Her skin is so payd.

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Speaker 3: She looks like a ghost, and she's got this long

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Speaker 3: brown hair parted usually slightly on the side, big glasses,

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Speaker 3: and the hair hangs down like curtains.

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Speaker 1: Over her face. You can barely see the eyes, you know,

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Speaker 1: the hair is so close down. I can't see her face.

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Speaker 1: That makes me suspicious. But who would buy into my

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Speaker 1: dad is a Russian billionaire? Give me your money? Oops,

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Speaker 1: I forgot my credit card. What happened? Let's just start

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Speaker 1: at the beginning.

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Speaker 4: Well, Nancy apparently a lot of people were just hungry

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Speaker 4: to buy into this story. If New York City is

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Speaker 4: a city of dreams, which we hear it called all

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Speaker 4: the time, Anna had enough for the entire island. She

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Speaker 4: had longed to be a member of the upper echelon

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Speaker 1: I understand something, John Linley, Crime Online Investigator reporter. Did

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Speaker 1: you just call her giant fraud? Ripping people off tens

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Speaker 1: paid trip with her to Morocco and she gets stiffed

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Speaker 1: with a sixty five thousand dollars bill. Wait are you

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Speaker 1: calling that a dream? How it? Wait? How dare you person?

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Speaker 4: Dream? Is another person's night?

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Speaker 1: You find yourself with cliches? Don't the American dream my

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Speaker 1: rear end, Jeff Cortiese, I call it something a lot

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Speaker 1: different than the American dream?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean this was a at least on the

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Speaker 6: front end, a well executed fraud. Over the long term,

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Speaker 6: it didn't It didn't have the legs to remain sustainable

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Speaker 1: I mean she managed to pull it off. Wendy Patrick,

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Speaker 1: for you know what, two years. I forgot how long

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Speaker 1: she managed to pull the wool over everybody's eyes, going

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Speaker 1: on trips to Morocco, staying at I think it's eleven Howard,

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Speaker 1: some ritzy. I don't even know how you find that

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Speaker 1: hotel in New York. It's one of those places. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's even marked. Only rich people go there.

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Speaker 1: Wendy Patrick, what is what happened to John Limley, the

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Speaker 1: Voice of Reason? He just called this the American Dream? What?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 8: I think John Linley, what he was talking about is

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Speaker 8: there are there are some misguided, vulnerable people that really

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Speaker 8: are subjected to social predators like Anna. And you know,

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Speaker 8: some people just are absolutely you guys mentioned the glamor,

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Speaker 8: the glitz. It's like they want to believe and this

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Speaker 8: fake it till you make it lifestyle. You know, nobody

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Speaker 8: even took the time to say, show me the money,

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Speaker 8: show me the fun, show me the corroboration behind your

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Speaker 1: Because caught up in the moment in an Instagram.

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Speaker 8: Savvy society, people want to be in the company of

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Speaker 8: people like Anna, and sadly, as a prosecutor, I am

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Speaker 8: just we are just absolutely just terrified of people like

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Speaker 8: this that are able to so easily infiltrate our social

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Speaker 8: networking to doctor Williams you Lye, psychologist, author of a

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Speaker 8: dark and they did a.

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Speaker 1: Quit her off, which I was shocked about because this

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Speaker 1: girl actually took the stand Graham larceny for a luedgedly

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Speaker 1: come along, I'll pay for everything on a trip to Morocco. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think they actually punished the friend because when you

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Speaker 1: go on a luxurious trip to Morocco, you stay in

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Speaker 1: were costing like three hundred dollars a treatment, whatever. That

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, at worse, Nancy, what you're looking at

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Speaker 5: in cases like this, at worst is a psychopathological level

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Speaker 5: of narcissism. At best, what you're looking at as a

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Speaker 5: person who has so much greed and desire to please

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Speaker 5: other people. You were asking earlier, and I just want

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Speaker 5: to address what you were asking earlier about why and

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Speaker 5: how can this sort of thing happen. We're all baffled

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Speaker 5: when we see this, but it's age old. It's a

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Speaker 5: tale as old as time. Charlottan comes in and fools everyone.

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Speaker 5: So there's a part of people that are looking at

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Speaker 5: believe that she's an heiress so that they can be

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Speaker 5: with her. And people are blaming social media. It's not

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Speaker 5: the fault of social media. Social media is just a

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Speaker 1: Are you piling on everybody on the panel except Cortiese

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Speaker 1: Thank goodness, as keeps talking about the Instagram and society.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Instagram didn't have a dang thing to

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray. Fake heiress Anna delviy hits the headlines again,

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Speaker 1: this time about abandoned bunnies of all things. Okay, Anna

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Speaker 1: delviy I Guess is one of her names. Annasorkin is

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Speaker 1: another name. She is Russian from a middle class family

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Speaker 1: who presented herself in New York as a German heiress,

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Speaker 1: socialite and cond people at a nearly three hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: including fantastic hotels, amazing five star trips, fancy restaurants, clothes,

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Speaker 1: you name it again. She is linked with scandal, go

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Speaker 1: away work like the rest of us. For Pete's sake,

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Speaker 1: do you remember the trial? I remember the whole thing

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Speaker 1: was delayed because she refused to come out unless she

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Speaker 1: had in designer clothes. Oh my stars. But let's take

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Speaker 1: a walk down memory lane. Her parents' hard working middle

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Speaker 1: but she didn't just create a different identity her parents.

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Speaker 1: only assumed different an identity for herself, but she also

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Speaker 1: created a whole team of imaginary assistants, an assistant, an accountant,

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Speaker 4: And some were not so imaginary. She even had the

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Speaker 4: concierge at a hotel essentially on her staff. At her

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Speaker 4: not only her wealth but all of her aspirations, her dreams.

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Speaker 4: She really wanted to build this members only arts club

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Speaker 1: This John Lanley. She lied to a bank using phony records.

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Speaker 10: Anna went too far when she attempted to take out

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Speaker 10: a loan for twenty two million dollars to finance a

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Speaker 10: visual arts center she called the Anna Deelvi Foundation. In all,

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Speaker 10: Anna reportedly scammed a total of two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 10: as hotels went after her unpaid debts and banks began

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Speaker 10: to investigate her alleged assets.

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Speaker 1: Wow that's Jesse Palmer over at Daily Mail TV. Wow Okay,

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Speaker 1: So friends and acquaintances. Say Sorokan spent years playing the

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Speaker 1: part of an art obsessed German heiress. Sometimes she'd be Russian.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes she'd be German. She had an accent to go

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Speaker 1: with it, rubbing shoulders with the fashion elite at Paris

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Speaker 1: Fashion Week, frequently spotted in London night spots. Then those

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Speaker 1: She told everybody she had just flown in on a

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Speaker 1: private jet. How did she pull it off? Scamming nearly

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Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars. It was only when these ritzy

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Speaker 1: amazed me. You know, I don't know if you do

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Speaker 1: this or not. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red

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Speaker 1: Flags on Amazon. Wendy, under the constitution, you can't force

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Nancy, what you're describing really is something

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Speaker 8: Because it's this entire mentality of I don't want to

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Speaker 8: There is so much more to life than clothes and

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Speaker 8: One of the things that distinguishes this case is the

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Speaker 8: This one may look like she is dressed for a

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Speaker 1: She was so concerned about how she looked in court

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Speaker 11: Is she in a courtroom or at a red carpet event.

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Speaker 7: Black dress definitely a no no. A hyper sexualize her.

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Speaker 11: Sore Kin is so obsessed with her clothes she refused

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Speaker 12: It's not that she didn't want to come out only

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Speaker 1: Don't cry too much for Anna Serrokan. She was living

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Speaker 1: Last Walker, she usually hold up in a four hundred

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Speaker 1: how many hundred dollar bills do you have, Jackie? I

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Speaker 6: I think it's a numbers game in many respects. There

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Speaker 6: Certain certain banking activity. She did share the wealth amongst

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Speaker 1: Well, what I understand that she did, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: so she faked records and got I don't know fifty

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Speaker 1: that really fascinates me, doctor Williams July, and not in

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Speaker 1: would splash out on shopping sprees at boutiques, very expensive

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Speaker 5: But an adult, certainly people can have these types of

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Speaker 5: they can be very charming, and they can be very persuasive,

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Speaker 13: Under the name Anna Delvi, she arrived in New York

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Speaker 1: Our friend Michael Sisak at Time Magazine online, Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: It emerged she never paid the bill. During her stay

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Speaker 1: How did she get money from one bank to get

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Speaker 4: It's a very interesting line to follow. How she did this.

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Speaker 4: She would go to a bank and ask for a

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Speaker 4: She talked to an examp to an executive with City

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Speaker 1: You know, her lines became more and more spectacular. Wendy Patchett,

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Speaker 1: California Prosecutor. In fact, she even managed to charter a

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Speaker 1: how do you do that?

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Speaker 8: The level of sophistication Nancy, as John was explaining and

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Speaker 1: We tend to attribute.

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Speaker 8: All these positive qualities to somebody who comes across as believable,

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Speaker 1: Don Lenley tell me about the lux treatment she got

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Speaker 4: Well, when they went to Marrakesh, she went with a

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Speaker 1: A sixty two thousand dollars vacation that is more than

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Speaker 1: the wine cellar eight dinner with live Moroccan music, before

436
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Speaker 1: capping off their knights with cocktails at the Churchill Bar.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a trip that most people only

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Speaker 1: dream of, and now here's miss thing, having a nearly

439
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Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars vacation built on crime.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Nancy, the best things in life are free,

441
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Speaker 8: and everybody knows that. So when you look at a

442
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Speaker 8: story like this, part of I think the offense that

443
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Speaker 8: everyone is taking is to use crime and criminal activity

444
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Speaker 8: to build a fake world where people pay the kind

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Speaker 8: of money that most of us would never do even

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Speaker 8: if we have it. You talk about the value of

447
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Speaker 8: hard work the way we were all raised. It sounds

448
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 8: like those she surrounded herself were really taken with the

449
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 8: fact that someone they believed was as rich and famous

450
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 8: as she was would be interested in them.

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Speaker 1: That is a basic human need.

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Speaker 8: Ironically, that was being satisfied through criming through, as you

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Speaker 8: pointed out earlier, having this imaginary friend that's larger than.

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Speaker 1: Like crime stories with Nancy Grace, Anna delviy Aka Anahsauric

455
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: and the con artists back in the news, this time

456
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: to the forefront over abandoned bunnies used in a photo

457
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Speaker 1: shoot and then abandoned in public parks. Well, eagle eyed

458
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: Reddit users notice they look very similar to the ones

459
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Speaker 1: in Anna Delvi's photo shoot, and bam, it all came

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Speaker 1: crashing down. Now a teen assistant says it's all his

461
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: fault that he lied, and he takes responsibility. Okay, whatever

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Speaker 1: you say. I'm still hung up on the three hundred

463
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars she scamned. Remember that. You know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about you, Jeff Cortize, FBI special agent. But I

465
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: loved it when I would of course, the prosecutor gets

466
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Speaker 1: in front of an entire jury panel and reads the

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Speaker 1: indictment before you begin jury's selection, so everybody knows who's

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Speaker 1: charged with what and what all the accounts are. And

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Speaker 1: I would love it to say state versus Jeff Cortize

470
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Speaker 1: aka Charlie Tuna aka the Hammer aka Blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: and so forth and so on. I would love reading

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Speaker 1: out ten or twelve aliases. And by the time you've

473
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Speaker 1: done reading that, the jury just looks at the person

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Speaker 1: and goes, You're so, you're guilty, You're guilty. Why are

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Speaker 1: you Why do you have twelve aliases, and this girl,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling it, not only had aliases, but she had

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Speaker 1: fake assistant. She lied about her mom and dad who

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Speaker 1: they really are. The reality is that her father was

479
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Speaker 1: a truck driver and he went on to work at

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Speaker 1: or start a heating and air conditioned business. The friends

481
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Speaker 1: in school called her Barbie and her favorite movie was

482
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Speaker 1: Mean Girls. And I don't think that's any of that

483
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Speaker 1: is good. Okay, that means nothing good. Jeff Cartize, No,

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Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. You hit it on the head.

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Speaker 6: You know, the minute individuals start layering themselves with aliases

486
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Speaker 6: and aka's, you know, they're putting up walls and barriers

487
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Speaker 6: that any jury is going to be able to see through.

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00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 6: You know, she really executed a well thought out plan

489
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Speaker 6: against the banks, using multiple techniques and methods to cite

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Speaker 6: and money from them.

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Speaker 1: You know, from from top to bottom.

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Speaker 6: She exploited what people want to see and exploited the

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Speaker 6: type of lifestyle that people want to have to the

494
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Speaker 6: extent that you know, if I was going to run undercover,

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Speaker 6: I would have done many of the techniques that she

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Speaker 6: did in order to manipulate my audience.

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Speaker 1: Well, another aspect to this, John Lemley, is I remember

498
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Speaker 1: one day when John David came running home and went,

499
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Speaker 1: so and so's mom is so cool. She works for

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Speaker 1: Chick fil A and she gets free T shirts and

501
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Speaker 1: she gets this, and she gets that. I think the

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Speaker 1: lady who's very lovely was in marketing or PR and

503
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Speaker 1: would bring home, you know, like a T shirt or

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Speaker 1: a moodcu or what whatever they had. And I thought

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Speaker 1: briefly of creating a different persona to try to impress

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Speaker 1: John David's friends, who were then four years old. Okay,

507
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: but I just decided, no, I'm just going to stick

508
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Speaker 1: with the truth, you know, and let the chips fall

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Speaker 1: where they may. John Lumley, I mean that would hurt

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Speaker 1: me if I found out the twins were lying about

511
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Speaker 1: their mom and dad, that what we are isn't good

512
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Speaker 1: enough to fit in to their self image they're projecting,

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Speaker 1: that would really hurt my feelers.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly the way her parents felt about the

515
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Speaker 4: whole thing. They actually did help fund her through college

516
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: and as she was getting out on her own, but

517
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Speaker 4: there was never any sort of trust fund. She moved

518
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Speaker 4: to Germany in two thousand and seven, and after she

519
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 4: dropped out of college, she interned in public Relations, before

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00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: then moving to Paris and became an intern at Purple Magazine.

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Speaker 4: Once she arrived in New York City, she just somehow

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Speaker 4: managed to be in all the sort of right places.

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Speaker 4: And she was this German heiress, according to her, with

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Speaker 4: a father that you would think.

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Speaker 1: With me, Wait a minute, I thought she was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a Russian heiress.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, she was from Russia, but she told people

528
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Speaker 4: she was a German heiress. What's really funny, though, is

529
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Speaker 4: that her German, according to a lot of people, was terrible.

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Speaker 13: M h.

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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to what the

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Speaker 1: defense claims in closing arguments.

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Speaker 9: She had to fake it until she could make it.

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Speaker 9: Those words from the defendant's own attorney, who claimed she

535
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Speaker 9: never intended to commit a crime, But prosecutors call her

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Speaker 9: a fraud and a liar who would do almost anything

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Speaker 9: to prolong her life of luxury. This morning, the fate

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Speaker 9: of an alleged scam artist is now in the hands

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00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 9: of a jury, both sides wrapping up arguments for a

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00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 9: case that's drawn international outrage. The style savvy defendant even

541
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Speaker 9: turning heads in court wearing an animal print dress. She

542
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 9: called herself Anna Delvi, a fashionable globetrotter. Executors say, was

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Speaker 9: pretending to be a high flying German heiress living a

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Speaker 9: fairytale life of glitz and glam among Manhattan's elite.

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Speaker 1: That is an order for law and that.

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Speaker 8: Beyond.

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Speaker 1: Prosecutors say.

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Speaker 9: The twenty eight year old, whose real name is Annasorrikan,

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Speaker 9: stole two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars from banks, hotels,

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Speaker 9: and friends, all part of an elaborate scheme to keep

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Speaker 9: up her illusion of grandeur. Prosecutors also alleged Sorrikan tried

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Speaker 9: securing a twenty two million dollar loan to operate a

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Speaker 9: private club, claims. Her lawyer denies.

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Speaker 1: I do not.

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Speaker 12: Believe she had the intent to ever commit a crime.

556
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Speaker 12: Whether she oweys people money, that's a fact of life.

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Speaker 12: That's that's the reality of doing business in New York.

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Speaker 9: Now, facing charges of grand larceny and theft, she could

559
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 9: spend up to fifteen years in prison if convicted. An

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Speaker 9: official say, even if acquitted, she will be deported to Germany.

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00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 9: Sorkin's attorney says she got in over her head but

562
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Speaker 9: was just buying time until she could pay everyone back.

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Speaker 1: You're hearing our buddy wit Johnson at GMA at ABC

564
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Speaker 1: pay everybody back. I saw no signs of paying everybody

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00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: back and calling this doing business. That's certainly putting perfume

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Speaker 1: on the pig. Now you know there's a problem. Wendy Patrick,

567
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Speaker 1: California prosecutor and author of Red Flags. When the defense

568
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Speaker 1: to theft and fraud is fake it till you make it, okay,

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Speaker 1: I would not say that that's a valid defense and

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Speaker 1: a fraud case, you're admitting you're faking it.

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Speaker 8: It's probably not a good theme for the defense one.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure they're rethinking.

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Speaker 1: Right about now. You don't want to.

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Speaker 8: That's kind of playing right into the prosecutor's case. Now

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Speaker 8: what they probably were trying to do, Interestingly, and trial

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Speaker 8: and Nancy, you and I have both seen this is

577
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Speaker 8: really kind of painting this vulnerability picture of the defendant

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Speaker 8: to try to make somebody feel sorry for her, that

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Speaker 8: she was caught up in this false lifestyle, felt she

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Speaker 8: had to pretend she was somebody she wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Who can't relate to that.

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Speaker 8: There's a little bit of Anna and all of.

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Speaker 1: Us, you know, some of the themes we've well wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: I want to isolate what you just said. The defense

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00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: argued at trial as if Anna Sorokan aka Anna Delphy

586
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: was some type of a renegade and a rebel, someone

587
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: who was, you know, making her own path in the

588
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: world creatively. B As, don't tell me there's a little

589
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: bit of Anna Sorokan in me, because that was their defense.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of Anna and all of us.

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Speaker 1: Oh uh uh uh no, because she is a fraud,

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Speaker 1: a thief, and she ripped people off and they're never

593
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: going to get repaid. Wendy, right, that's what I'm saying that.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's baby why she was convicted, because these defenses

595
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 8: are just not realistic to jurors, to hardworking jurors, and

596
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Speaker 8: just cannot relate to the fact that we are anything

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Speaker 8: like this picture of Anna. Nonetheless, we have seen this

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Speaker 8: defense I'm in again and thankfully it is not successful.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.

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Speaker 9: The courtroom drama played out late into the evening. At

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Speaker 9: one point the jury appeared deadlocked, the defense asking for

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Speaker 9: a mistrial, but then the verdict jurors agreeing with the

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00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 9: prosecution that Anasauricin built her fairytale life on a foundation

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Speaker 9: of theft and lives overnight, a New York City jury

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 9: finding socialite Anasauricin, the so called Soho Grifter, guilty on

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Speaker 9: eight counts, including grand larceny, attempted grand larceny, and theft

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Speaker 9: of services. Prosecutors arguing the twenty eight year old stole

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Speaker 9: a quarter of a million dollars from banks, hotels, and

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Speaker 9: friends to fund a lavish lifestyle.

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Speaker 12: The jurors obviously believed our point of view and followed

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Speaker 12: our logic and acquitted her for the top charges. I'm

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Speaker 12: sad and that she was convicted of some of the

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Speaker 12: other charges.

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Speaker 9: Prosecutors say the Russian born Sorkin, who called herself Anna Delvi,

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Speaker 9: was pretending to be a high flying German heiress living

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Speaker 9: a life of glamour among Manhattan's elite. Authority to say

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Speaker 9: she even forged financial documents hoping to get a twenty

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Speaker 9: two million dollar loan to open a private club in

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Speaker 9: the Big Apple. While she was turned down, she did

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Speaker 9: convince one bank to loan her one hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 9: which she never paid back, or lawyer saying she meant

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Speaker 9: to but had gotten in over her head and was

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Speaker 9: just buying time.

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Speaker 1: To bunnies abandoned in a public park trace back to

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Speaker 1: Anna Delvey. Surprise, surprise, surprise, She swears she had nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with it. Yet again another scandal. I would

627
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Speaker 1: put money on it if I were a betting person,

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Speaker 1: which I am not. That we have not heard the

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Speaker 1: last from Anna Delvy aka con artist Anna Sorkin. Nancy

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Speaker 1: Gray is signing off for now.

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Speaker 5: Good night friend,