1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: You are part of a group of people I think 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: about who are like celebrity faith leaders and not do 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: something that they're You know, you're not the celebrity because 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: of the faith or faithful because of your celebrity, but 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: like you, you are both things and we are coming. 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: We're in a day where that's it's increasing. I'm seeing 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: an increasing amount of celebrity faith leaders. How do you 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: manage that? And how have you seen others manage that? 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: You know, responsibility? 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: Well? Also sure, yeah, yeah, you know, I I think 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: I'd manage it just by being myself. You know, I don't. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: I don't try to think of like myself as a 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: leader like because then I think sometimes what happens is 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: instead of living authentically, you know, you live by how 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: you anticipate others are going to perceive you or how 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: others are going to expect you to live. And I 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: think that kind of can put us on a very 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: inauthentic path versus like, Hey, this is who I am 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: since who God called me to be. And as I 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: take those steps, I am aware of the impact and 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: the influence that God has allowed me to have. And 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: and my job as a leader is to first lead 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: myself and to do the things that I think God 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: is calling me to do. And and then I certainly share, Okay, hey, 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: here's how I'm doing or here's how I've done it. 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: And if people find, you know, something powerful or instructive 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: about that, great, But I think it's it's yeah, I 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: don't really I don't really live life thinking like when 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm when I go out like oh, I'm this leader 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: and I need to do X, Y or Z, Like 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: I think my lifestyle and my level of success and 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: just who I am as an individual is probably leadership 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: in and of itself, you know. And I feel like 34 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: when when you take on like the idea like well, 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: I'm this leader, Well okay, then what what do you 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: feel like you have to live up to or down 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: to or what level of you know, Well, then I 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: can't be my true self because people really expect me 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: to do this, but I'm really that, so I'm going 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: to present an image to do this and and I 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: don't know for me, I just I just don't. I 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: don't do that, you know. It's like what you see 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: in the public for the most part is really you 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: know who I am? Uh, And I really try to 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: if I were to, you know, have a leadership thought. 46 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: It's just by example, you know, like I am about 47 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: what I say I'm about, and you know, try to 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: always do you know, good business, try to always be 49 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: mindful of you know, my my Christianity and and and 50 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: just live authentically, be live truthfully. I mean that's really 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: you know how it is. You know what I mean 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: and how I like to do it. So I really 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: but I don't try to like say, oh, I'm this 54 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: leader and this is how I'm gonna do this. You know. 55 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: It's like wait a minute, you know, like hold on 56 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: a second, Like it's cool that people look to me 57 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: and I will and I don't mind that, Like that 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: doesn't bother me at all. Oh, I do have advice. 59 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: I do have a lot of success. I do have 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: a lot of insight, and I think that what I 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: could say to somebody will be helpful to them. And 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: I do it from a place of well that's authentic 63 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: for me, not because I feel like I gotta do 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: it because this is what's expected, if that makes sense.