1 00:00:06,026 --> 00:00:09,506 Speaker 1: NFL Explained is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:09,706 --> 00:00:14,106 Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. Welcome to NFL Explained, a production 3 00:00:14,266 --> 00:00:18,066 Speaker 1: of the NFL in partnership with I Heart Radio. Up 4 00:00:18,066 --> 00:00:21,226 Speaker 1: Work is the world's work marketplace. Empower your business and 5 00:00:21,306 --> 00:00:25,626 Speaker 1: hire the world's most in demand developers, designers, project managers 6 00:00:25,626 --> 00:00:30,026 Speaker 1: and more at www dot up work dot com. America's 7 00:00:30,066 --> 00:00:33,026 Speaker 1: most reliable network is going Ultra with Verizon five G 8 00:00:33,266 --> 00:00:35,746 Speaker 1: Ultra wide ban and more and more places with up 9 00:00:35,746 --> 00:00:38,466 Speaker 1: to ten times faster speeds. You can download a movie 10 00:00:38,506 --> 00:00:42,146 Speaker 1: in mere minutes. 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Holiday season is upon us 18 00:01:09,626 --> 00:01:12,666 Speaker 1: and instead of going on a deep dive on one 19 00:01:12,786 --> 00:01:15,826 Speaker 1: specific question, we thought we would stuff your stockings with 20 00:01:16,026 --> 00:01:18,146 Speaker 1: multiple questions and answer some of the ones you've been 21 00:01:18,146 --> 00:01:20,786 Speaker 1: firing off to us over the last few weeks. Welcome 22 00:01:20,826 --> 00:01:24,746 Speaker 1: to NFL explained, I'm Mike am joined as always of 23 00:01:24,866 --> 00:01:28,226 Speaker 1: the fabulous a dd Kinka Wala in this season of 24 00:01:28,386 --> 00:01:31,906 Speaker 1: gift giving, right, I mean, this is us giving gifts 25 00:01:31,946 --> 00:01:35,146 Speaker 1: back to the listeners who have been gifting us with 26 00:01:35,266 --> 00:01:37,546 Speaker 1: their time. You know there's a listener right now going. 27 00:01:37,666 --> 00:01:39,346 Speaker 1: You know, you guys are so cheap. If this is 28 00:01:39,386 --> 00:01:41,466 Speaker 1: your gift to us, I get it, I get it. 29 00:01:41,466 --> 00:01:43,226 Speaker 1: I mean what always supposed to do, like give all 30 00:01:43,266 --> 00:01:45,626 Speaker 1: of our listeners something. But it's not just about money. 31 00:01:45,666 --> 00:01:48,946 Speaker 1: It's about time. And we did spend time researching some 32 00:01:49,106 --> 00:01:51,906 Speaker 1: of these interesting questions. I mean, I don't know about you, yeah, 33 00:01:51,986 --> 00:01:53,986 Speaker 1: but I got a lot of really interesting questions in 34 00:01:54,026 --> 00:01:57,306 Speaker 1: my AMI mentions. Okay, So I feel like we might 35 00:01:57,346 --> 00:02:00,266 Speaker 1: have gotten more gifts than we are giving in this episode, 36 00:02:00,266 --> 00:02:02,746 Speaker 1: which is kind of cool and not necessarily like my 37 00:02:02,946 --> 00:02:04,826 Speaker 1: life ethos, Like I like to give a little bit 38 00:02:04,866 --> 00:02:07,026 Speaker 1: more than I take. If we all had that, we'd 39 00:02:07,066 --> 00:02:08,506 Speaker 1: all be in a bunch better place. But I say 40 00:02:08,506 --> 00:02:10,786 Speaker 1: that because when you fire off a question like hey, like, 41 00:02:10,906 --> 00:02:12,826 Speaker 1: what do you guys want to hear on NFL? Explain? 42 00:02:12,906 --> 00:02:16,906 Speaker 1: What can we answer people are funny. People are funny. 43 00:02:16,946 --> 00:02:19,266 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, some of the acts that I got 44 00:02:19,426 --> 00:02:22,426 Speaker 1: were comical. So I appreciate all the chuckles that I 45 00:02:22,466 --> 00:02:24,306 Speaker 1: was able to get from some of our listeners and 46 00:02:24,466 --> 00:02:27,626 Speaker 1: greatly appreciate it. Well, since we have so many tremendous 47 00:02:27,666 --> 00:02:29,746 Speaker 1: listeners and we did get quite a lot, let's just 48 00:02:29,826 --> 00:02:32,506 Speaker 1: jump right into it, all right. We're gonna start with 49 00:02:32,506 --> 00:02:35,026 Speaker 1: one of mine, because you know, people do at me 50 00:02:35,226 --> 00:02:37,946 Speaker 1: quite a bit, Mike a lot. By the way, if 51 00:02:37,946 --> 00:02:40,506 Speaker 1: we're doing that, you know, yeah, well I do keep 52 00:02:40,546 --> 00:02:45,746 Speaker 1: track of who's winning on Twitter. It ain't me, all right. 53 00:02:45,786 --> 00:02:49,506 Speaker 1: Our very first one came from a gentleman named Tim Proud. Hey, Tim, 54 00:02:49,506 --> 00:02:53,026 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Here's what he sent us. Here's 55 00:02:53,026 --> 00:03:00,866 Speaker 1: one for NFL explained terminology. Where did terms like pooch, kick, shovel, pass, muffpunt, pick, 56 00:03:01,106 --> 00:03:04,626 Speaker 1: et cetera. All come from? What a great question. That 57 00:03:04,826 --> 00:03:07,146 Speaker 1: is a really great on all right, so why don't 58 00:03:07,146 --> 00:03:10,866 Speaker 1: you start us with I don't know where pooch actually 59 00:03:10,906 --> 00:03:13,066 Speaker 1: came from. I love how you did that. You said it, 60 00:03:13,146 --> 00:03:15,186 Speaker 1: you set me up for failure. I mean, what kind 61 00:03:15,186 --> 00:03:17,986 Speaker 1: of friend are you? We actually don't have the answer 62 00:03:18,106 --> 00:03:20,426 Speaker 1: for pooch punt, which is just kind of wild. Our 63 00:03:20,466 --> 00:03:22,706 Speaker 1: research team and by the way, like our resources are 64 00:03:23,026 --> 00:03:26,506 Speaker 1: truly amazing. You ask our research team anything, you get 65 00:03:26,546 --> 00:03:29,946 Speaker 1: an answer relatively quickly, and unless you ask them where 66 00:03:30,746 --> 00:03:33,226 Speaker 1: we don't have that one. So I don't think, all right, 67 00:03:33,266 --> 00:03:35,906 Speaker 1: so that's going to be a part two. We will 68 00:03:36,146 --> 00:03:38,826 Speaker 1: we will find the answer to that, and maybe someone 69 00:03:38,866 --> 00:03:41,586 Speaker 1: listening to us right now knows the answer. So if 70 00:03:41,586 --> 00:03:43,906 Speaker 1: you know the answer of where pooch punk came from, 71 00:03:43,946 --> 00:03:46,746 Speaker 1: please reach out to us. All right, let's move on. 72 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:52,266 Speaker 1: Shovel pass this actually came from basketball, Mike, because it's 73 00:03:52,266 --> 00:03:55,826 Speaker 1: that shovel like motion with your arm. And then as 74 00:03:55,866 --> 00:03:58,426 Speaker 1: for a muff punt, well, that's because a muff is 75 00:03:58,466 --> 00:04:01,026 Speaker 1: a muff. A muff is in the dictionary is failing 76 00:04:01,026 --> 00:04:03,386 Speaker 1: to hold onto a ball when you're trying to catch it. 77 00:04:03,786 --> 00:04:05,626 Speaker 1: I was one set of game in San Francisco where 78 00:04:05,906 --> 00:04:10,226 Speaker 1: poor young man muffed two punts two in one game. Actually, 79 00:04:10,226 --> 00:04:12,906 Speaker 1: I think that just happened last weekend in a Bengals game, 80 00:04:12,946 --> 00:04:15,066 Speaker 1: didn't it. That's the other thing I'm learning, not even 81 00:04:15,106 --> 00:04:19,066 Speaker 1: like the origin of these terms from a normal vernacular situation. 82 00:04:19,106 --> 00:04:23,146 Speaker 1: Here I didn't even know what muff meant, so like, formally, 83 00:04:23,186 --> 00:04:26,066 Speaker 1: outside of football terms, I never used I mean you're 84 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:30,186 Speaker 1: giving me this look like. That's because you went to Fordham, 85 00:04:30,386 --> 00:04:32,906 Speaker 1: you know, if you had an ivy leage vocabulary used 86 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:36,986 Speaker 1: the word moving right along. An interception is often called 87 00:04:37,066 --> 00:04:39,626 Speaker 1: a pick. Why is it called a pick because a 88 00:04:39,826 --> 00:04:44,226 Speaker 1: pick is another word for rob, like a pickpocket. And 89 00:04:44,306 --> 00:04:46,346 Speaker 1: what do you do when you get an interception? Will 90 00:04:46,386 --> 00:04:48,866 Speaker 1: you robbed the receiver? And you robbed the quarterback of 91 00:04:48,946 --> 00:04:51,746 Speaker 1: their ball. Here's another one for you, Mike. Flee flicker. 92 00:04:53,026 --> 00:04:58,946 Speaker 1: Fleeflickers actually a very very very long tenured part of 93 00:04:58,946 --> 00:05:03,306 Speaker 1: our vernacular. It was created by the legendary University of 94 00:05:03,306 --> 00:05:08,546 Speaker 1: Illinois coach Bob Zepka. Described it as a dog's flicking 95 00:05:08,586 --> 00:05:11,746 Speaker 1: action to get rid of fleas, So the way that 96 00:05:11,786 --> 00:05:15,186 Speaker 1: a dog flicks to get rid of his fleas is 97 00:05:15,226 --> 00:05:19,306 Speaker 1: similar to a flee flicker. According to Bob Zepka, I'm 98 00:05:19,346 --> 00:05:22,546 Speaker 1: not sure I really get this one, this one, this one, 99 00:05:22,586 --> 00:05:25,826 Speaker 1: I really like. Sack. Can you guess what era the 100 00:05:25,986 --> 00:05:29,426 Speaker 1: term sack was developed, because we haven't been keeping track 101 00:05:29,466 --> 00:05:32,066 Speaker 1: of sacks for a very long No, you're right, that 102 00:05:32,186 --> 00:05:34,986 Speaker 1: has been an issue. Although there's a part of me 103 00:05:35,066 --> 00:05:37,106 Speaker 1: that says, when we were doing like our nicknames, like 104 00:05:37,626 --> 00:05:39,266 Speaker 1: you know, we sort of dug into the research on 105 00:05:39,306 --> 00:05:43,986 Speaker 1: some of these defensive teams and dudes just were monsters 106 00:05:44,106 --> 00:05:46,946 Speaker 1: against offenses. So while it might not go like back 107 00:05:46,986 --> 00:05:49,386 Speaker 1: to the early nineteen hundreds, I would imagine it's still 108 00:05:49,626 --> 00:05:52,666 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's fifties, seventies, something along those lines, 109 00:05:53,026 --> 00:05:57,346 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, that's right. So Marv Levy, the former NFL coach, 110 00:05:57,386 --> 00:06:01,386 Speaker 1: Marv Levy, he says, the coach that he worked for 111 00:06:01,466 --> 00:06:04,266 Speaker 1: one of his former bosses, George Allen, who of course 112 00:06:04,346 --> 00:06:06,586 Speaker 1: is in the Hall of Fame, who coined the phrase 113 00:06:06,666 --> 00:06:08,906 Speaker 1: the first time. And this is what Marv Levy said. 114 00:06:08,946 --> 00:06:12,946 Speaker 1: He said that George Allen was talking the night before 115 00:06:13,226 --> 00:06:16,346 Speaker 1: a team meeting about playing the Dallas Cowboys and the 116 00:06:16,426 --> 00:06:18,866 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys quarterback who at the time was Craig Morton, 117 00:06:19,426 --> 00:06:22,306 Speaker 1: and at the time it would always be tackled the 118 00:06:22,386 --> 00:06:26,306 Speaker 1: quarterback for a loss. But what Marv Levy says is 119 00:06:26,346 --> 00:06:28,786 Speaker 1: the night before this game when the Rams played the 120 00:06:28,826 --> 00:06:34,746 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Craig Morton, George Allen said, before we play 121 00:06:34,786 --> 00:06:38,586 Speaker 1: those Dallas Cowboys, We're going to take that more insult 122 00:06:39,026 --> 00:06:42,546 Speaker 1: and pour him into a sack. And so that was 123 00:06:42,586 --> 00:06:46,746 Speaker 1: the inspiration for the term sack. Like the history behind it, 124 00:06:46,866 --> 00:06:49,866 Speaker 1: never would have guessed that that's where, Yeah, that that's 125 00:06:49,906 --> 00:06:52,106 Speaker 1: not where I would have found a little bit of 126 00:06:52,106 --> 00:06:55,346 Speaker 1: a stretch. Um. This one a little bit personal because 127 00:06:55,386 --> 00:06:57,706 Speaker 1: I do happen to know Bill Freylick, and that's pancake. 128 00:06:58,146 --> 00:07:00,826 Speaker 1: Bill Freylick was an offensive lineman at the University of 129 00:07:00,826 --> 00:07:08,186 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and he's blocks were so famously known for putting 130 00:07:08,186 --> 00:07:11,346 Speaker 1: a pound it's flat on their back. This is in 131 00:07:11,386 --> 00:07:13,986 Speaker 1: the early nineteen eighties that it was actually the Pits 132 00:07:14,026 --> 00:07:19,106 Speaker 1: sports information department that came up with the term pancake. 133 00:07:19,906 --> 00:07:24,186 Speaker 1: And that was during a Heisman campaign for an offensive lineman. 134 00:07:24,586 --> 00:07:26,906 Speaker 1: How about that. Bill Frelick actually finished eighth in the 135 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:30,906 Speaker 1: Heisman voting in and six people gave him first place 136 00:07:30,986 --> 00:07:33,106 Speaker 1: votes for that one. That is wild. I mean, we 137 00:07:33,106 --> 00:07:35,546 Speaker 1: always think about the Heisman as a quarterback award. Maybe 138 00:07:35,546 --> 00:07:38,026 Speaker 1: you're talking about running backs, but I mean, hell, it's rare. 139 00:07:38,066 --> 00:07:41,346 Speaker 1: It's a defensive player. I'm top ten in voting for 140 00:07:41,426 --> 00:07:44,106 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. That's got to be as rare as 141 00:07:44,146 --> 00:07:46,986 Speaker 1: they come. And by the way, kudos to a lot 142 00:07:47,026 --> 00:07:49,706 Speaker 1: of the s I d s around the country who 143 00:07:49,746 --> 00:07:52,746 Speaker 1: work I mean just behind the scenes and just crushing it. 144 00:07:52,786 --> 00:07:54,226 Speaker 1: But to come up with something like that, I mean, 145 00:07:54,226 --> 00:07:56,666 Speaker 1: it's really creative, like I think about, although the resources 146 00:07:56,666 --> 00:07:58,986 Speaker 1: a little bit different. But you know, when Joey Harrington was, 147 00:07:59,146 --> 00:08:01,986 Speaker 1: you know, was an Oregon quarterback, uh, you know in 148 00:08:01,986 --> 00:08:04,866 Speaker 1: New York City, you know the huge billboard, you see 149 00:08:04,866 --> 00:08:07,706 Speaker 1: stuff like that Gardner Minshew, you know with the mustache. 150 00:08:07,666 --> 00:08:09,306 Speaker 1: It wasn't a Heisman deal, but like you know, send 151 00:08:09,346 --> 00:08:12,066 Speaker 1: a mustaches everywhere. Like that's kind of like the collegiate 152 00:08:12,106 --> 00:08:14,786 Speaker 1: aspect of the game of that using the pancake deal. 153 00:08:14,866 --> 00:08:17,386 Speaker 1: Like that's that's actually kind of fun. It is fun. 154 00:08:17,586 --> 00:08:20,426 Speaker 1: Now here's one that there's no way that you'd ever 155 00:08:20,466 --> 00:08:22,826 Speaker 1: guessed this one. And it's funny because I actually wondered 156 00:08:22,866 --> 00:08:25,386 Speaker 1: about this one too. We talked about the shotgun formation, right, 157 00:08:25,426 --> 00:08:28,346 Speaker 1: So where does that name come from? That phrase was 158 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:31,786 Speaker 1: coined in nineteen sixty And here's what happened. The forty 159 00:08:31,866 --> 00:08:35,066 Speaker 1: Niners upset the Colts, and afterwards, reporters were asking forty 160 00:08:35,146 --> 00:08:38,106 Speaker 1: Niners coach Howard Red Hicky, you know, what was this 161 00:08:38,186 --> 00:08:40,946 Speaker 1: offensive formation that he used that nobody had ever seen before, 162 00:08:41,386 --> 00:08:44,226 Speaker 1: And so Red Hickey says, well, you know it's spread 163 00:08:44,306 --> 00:08:46,666 Speaker 1: right and spread left, and you know, like that's kind 164 00:08:46,666 --> 00:08:49,946 Speaker 1: of what it was. And the reporters are like, yeah, 165 00:08:49,986 --> 00:08:54,586 Speaker 1: that's not really that creative. So Hicky put on the spot, 166 00:08:54,746 --> 00:08:57,506 Speaker 1: said well, I'm an old country boy and I used 167 00:08:57,546 --> 00:08:59,666 Speaker 1: to go hunting with a shotgun, So how about we 168 00:08:59,706 --> 00:09:02,226 Speaker 1: just call it the shotgun? If we're going to stay 169 00:09:02,746 --> 00:09:06,586 Speaker 1: on weaponizing terms, I guess let's go with It's So 170 00:09:06,826 --> 00:09:10,146 Speaker 1: blitz is of course short for the German military strategy, 171 00:09:10,186 --> 00:09:14,666 Speaker 1: which was the Blitzkrieg, and that means a sudden overwhelming attack, right. 172 00:09:14,746 --> 00:09:17,346 Speaker 1: You remember, like the Blitzkrieg was sort of the lightning war, 173 00:09:17,426 --> 00:09:20,426 Speaker 1: So what is a sudden overwhelming attack when somebody blitzes 174 00:09:20,466 --> 00:09:24,186 Speaker 1: you unexpected? That one's very appropriate. Yeah, that one seems 175 00:09:24,186 --> 00:09:28,586 Speaker 1: to make sense. How about Bootleg no idea where somebody alright, 176 00:09:28,786 --> 00:09:33,186 Speaker 1: Bootleg actually comes from Pop Warner. He invented both the 177 00:09:33,226 --> 00:09:35,146 Speaker 1: play and he came up with the name. And since 178 00:09:35,186 --> 00:09:38,306 Speaker 1: we talked about history earlier, this one's got its basis 179 00:09:38,306 --> 00:09:41,826 Speaker 1: in history. To Mike, so back during the Prohibition, days, 180 00:09:42,346 --> 00:09:46,586 Speaker 1: bootleggers would hide their alcohol in their pants, And the 181 00:09:46,666 --> 00:09:50,306 Speaker 1: way that they would hide their alcohol is very, very 182 00:09:50,306 --> 00:09:54,466 Speaker 1: similar to the way a quarterback hides the ball from 183 00:09:54,506 --> 00:09:59,546 Speaker 1: the defense. So that's where that one came from. They 184 00:09:59,626 --> 00:10:03,786 Speaker 1: used to hide their alcohol in their pants. You can't 185 00:10:03,826 --> 00:10:06,106 Speaker 1: do that in today's day and age, with skinny jeans 186 00:10:06,226 --> 00:10:09,706 Speaker 1: just not going to happen. So I can't imagine if 187 00:10:09,706 --> 00:10:12,866 Speaker 1: skinny jeans were all the rage during Prohibition, what we'd 188 00:10:12,866 --> 00:10:15,226 Speaker 1: be calling the bootleg now in the NFL. Just it 189 00:10:15,346 --> 00:10:17,906 Speaker 1: might be called something else. That's a whole other episode. 190 00:10:18,426 --> 00:10:21,106 Speaker 1: Maybe we should come up with new terms. Yeah, really 191 00:10:21,146 --> 00:10:23,626 Speaker 1: cool to see some of those terms get unleashed and 192 00:10:23,626 --> 00:10:25,826 Speaker 1: actually a dit before we get to the next question. 193 00:10:25,986 --> 00:10:28,466 Speaker 1: I know there was this idea of throwing at the 194 00:10:28,466 --> 00:10:30,426 Speaker 1: definition of hail Mary. We're not going to do that 195 00:10:30,506 --> 00:10:32,626 Speaker 1: here on this mail Bag edition because we have a 196 00:10:32,666 --> 00:10:40,546 Speaker 1: whole episode coming up on that very subject. 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Got another 224 00:12:06,146 --> 00:12:09,186 Speaker 1: a d D and it comes from James, who says, 225 00:12:09,346 --> 00:12:12,506 Speaker 1: who are the chain crew at games? Not to be 226 00:12:12,586 --> 00:12:15,266 Speaker 1: confused with two chains who I saw in Atlanta one time? 227 00:12:15,786 --> 00:12:17,986 Speaker 1: Are they supplied by the home team? Are they employed 228 00:12:17,986 --> 00:12:22,266 Speaker 1: by the NFL? Are they referee qualified? So many questions, Well, 229 00:12:22,306 --> 00:12:25,026 Speaker 1: we have so many answers for you, James. You gotta 230 00:12:25,026 --> 00:12:28,226 Speaker 1: go back to nineteen o six, and if you missed 231 00:12:28,226 --> 00:12:31,786 Speaker 1: our episode about the history of football, specifically the names, 232 00:12:32,026 --> 00:12:33,426 Speaker 1: go and check that one out, because I feel like 233 00:12:33,466 --> 00:12:36,266 Speaker 1: we name dropped nineteen o six multiple times. Nineteen o 234 00:12:36,386 --> 00:12:38,946 Speaker 1: six first downs were made to be picked up by 235 00:12:38,986 --> 00:12:42,506 Speaker 1: ten yards instead of five by the American Intercollegiate Football 236 00:12:42,626 --> 00:12:46,946 Speaker 1: Rules Committee. Initially two members had two light polls or 237 00:12:47,146 --> 00:12:50,706 Speaker 1: rods that were connected at their lower end by a 238 00:12:50,826 --> 00:12:54,306 Speaker 1: stout cord or chain ten yards in length. So it's 239 00:12:54,346 --> 00:12:56,746 Speaker 1: kind of obvious when we start talking about those chain crews. 240 00:12:56,786 --> 00:12:59,666 Speaker 1: But most chain crews they earned seventy five to a 241 00:12:59,746 --> 00:13:01,986 Speaker 1: hundred dollars per game, which you're like, you know, that's 242 00:13:01,986 --> 00:13:04,306 Speaker 1: not a lot of coin. Yeah, but think about the 243 00:13:04,386 --> 00:13:06,746 Speaker 1: view that they get on the sideline. Those numbers. By 244 00:13:06,746 --> 00:13:10,506 Speaker 1: the way, according to an SI article, the Jets, Yo, man, 245 00:13:10,546 --> 00:13:12,986 Speaker 1: they're handling business. They on the upper end of the 246 00:13:13,026 --> 00:13:16,146 Speaker 1: pay scalow hundred and fifty. It's not helping them pick 247 00:13:16,226 --> 00:13:18,106 Speaker 1: up some first downs. But the point is the perks 248 00:13:18,146 --> 00:13:21,866 Speaker 1: they include parking, pregame meals, are you kidding me? Bring 249 00:13:21,866 --> 00:13:25,706 Speaker 1: on the extra food, NFL branded gear. So look, I 250 00:13:25,706 --> 00:13:27,146 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of fans that would just do 251 00:13:27,186 --> 00:13:29,746 Speaker 1: it for the merch. I don't think that's kind of 252 00:13:29,746 --> 00:13:31,426 Speaker 1: crazy because it is really cool to be able to 253 00:13:31,506 --> 00:13:34,026 Speaker 1: do that. But all thirty two NFL teams they have 254 00:13:34,106 --> 00:13:37,226 Speaker 1: their own chain crews. The NFL they actually don't even 255 00:13:37,306 --> 00:13:40,186 Speaker 1: oversee the chain crewise. One thing that I saw that 256 00:13:40,266 --> 00:13:43,026 Speaker 1: was really really fascinating to me, a lot of the 257 00:13:43,146 --> 00:13:48,266 Speaker 1: chain crew roles actually get passed down through families. That 258 00:13:48,346 --> 00:13:51,466 Speaker 1: actually shocked me when I saw that chain crew members. 259 00:13:51,546 --> 00:13:54,386 Speaker 1: Ninety minutes before kickoff, you dress, you get the chain 260 00:13:54,946 --> 00:13:57,546 Speaker 1: for the field, not around your neck, and you ensure 261 00:13:57,586 --> 00:13:59,746 Speaker 1: that the backup sticks are sufficient, and then you go 262 00:13:59,786 --> 00:14:02,146 Speaker 1: and meet the down judge. So just something to consider 263 00:14:02,226 --> 00:14:04,226 Speaker 1: here when you're watching some of these games. Now, they 264 00:14:04,266 --> 00:14:07,866 Speaker 1: cruise themselves eight plus members, including at least one alternate 265 00:14:08,066 --> 00:14:11,426 Speaker 1: prior to the pandemic led to cuts on the sideline personnel. 266 00:14:11,466 --> 00:14:14,346 Speaker 1: Obviously that became a little bit of an issue there, 267 00:14:14,546 --> 00:14:16,946 Speaker 1: But the positions of each crew. You got the box man, 268 00:14:17,106 --> 00:14:19,946 Speaker 1: I feel like we're what's the movie where you're like 269 00:14:20,066 --> 00:14:23,346 Speaker 1: about to plan like a either a skate from a 270 00:14:23,386 --> 00:14:25,826 Speaker 1: prison or you're gonna rob a bank. I feel like 271 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,506 Speaker 1: the position crews for the um they just have like 272 00:14:28,746 --> 00:14:30,786 Speaker 1: names that associate with that in my mind. You've got 273 00:14:30,786 --> 00:14:34,186 Speaker 1: the box man, the auxiliary box man. Those are the 274 00:14:34,226 --> 00:14:38,186 Speaker 1: dudes in the red smocks opposite sidelines to display the down. 275 00:14:38,666 --> 00:14:42,386 Speaker 1: Two chain men who carry the sticks on the official side, 276 00:14:42,706 --> 00:14:46,026 Speaker 1: one line to gain pole showing the first down spot 277 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:49,786 Speaker 1: on the auxiliary side. You've got the clipman, who oversees 278 00:14:49,986 --> 00:14:52,786 Speaker 1: a marker that attaches to the chain at the nearest 279 00:14:52,826 --> 00:14:56,346 Speaker 1: yard line. That's a multiple of five. Their purpose is 280 00:14:56,386 --> 00:14:58,946 Speaker 1: to line back up properly if the crew moves to 281 00:14:58,986 --> 00:15:01,586 Speaker 1: measure on the field or leave their spot to avoid 282 00:15:01,586 --> 00:15:04,426 Speaker 1: getting hit. You got the data person tracks down down 283 00:15:04,426 --> 00:15:06,786 Speaker 1: the distance in the ball spot, and then a penalty 284 00:15:06,826 --> 00:15:11,746 Speaker 1: card person records the specifics of every single flag Oceans 285 00:15:11,826 --> 00:15:14,426 Speaker 1: eight is now what I'm calling this crew. I should 286 00:15:14,426 --> 00:15:16,266 Speaker 1: have said that earlier. That was a long winded way 287 00:15:16,306 --> 00:15:18,626 Speaker 1: to me to get to the movie reference. But that's 288 00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:21,066 Speaker 1: where I'm going with it, So James, hopefully that gives 289 00:15:21,066 --> 00:15:24,226 Speaker 1: you a little bit of clarity. And the family thing 290 00:15:24,266 --> 00:15:26,106 Speaker 1: is still what resonates the most with me and d 291 00:15:26,186 --> 00:15:28,066 Speaker 1: d Well. I mean, it's a cool thing. And if 292 00:15:28,106 --> 00:15:30,386 Speaker 1: you get to see one of your parents or your 293 00:15:30,506 --> 00:15:32,706 Speaker 1: siblings doing that, wouldn't you want to do the same 294 00:15:32,746 --> 00:15:35,186 Speaker 1: thing at some point too? Yeah? No, sign me up 295 00:15:35,226 --> 00:15:37,546 Speaker 1: for it. Um. This one created a little bit of 296 00:15:37,546 --> 00:15:40,786 Speaker 1: debate a d D on a separate email chain, Daniel 297 00:15:40,866 --> 00:15:43,226 Speaker 1: fired this off to us, Hey gang, first time, long time. 298 00:15:43,386 --> 00:15:46,026 Speaker 1: Loved the old school radio reference. I always wondered who 299 00:15:46,066 --> 00:15:48,546 Speaker 1: was the first person to get gatorade dumped on their 300 00:15:48,546 --> 00:15:52,546 Speaker 1: head after a big win? Hashtag yammertime dude, Daniel love 301 00:15:52,586 --> 00:15:56,306 Speaker 1: you man? Um okay. According to NFL Films founder Steve Sabell, 302 00:15:56,386 --> 00:16:00,186 Speaker 1: the first film evidence of a gatorade shower was when 303 00:16:00,226 --> 00:16:03,946 Speaker 1: the Giants defensive lineman Jim burt daused Bill Parcels after 304 00:16:03,986 --> 00:16:07,746 Speaker 1: a mid season victory in nineteen eighty four. Let's go 305 00:16:07,866 --> 00:16:11,146 Speaker 1: real deep here. Jim Burt Jr. The son of Jim 306 00:16:11,186 --> 00:16:14,506 Speaker 1: Burt Senior. Clearly I went to high school with the 307 00:16:14,586 --> 00:16:17,186 Speaker 1: d D. Shout out Burken Catholic High School, New Jersey 308 00:16:17,186 --> 00:16:19,466 Speaker 1: state champs that year. Jim, if I'm not mistaken, was 309 00:16:19,506 --> 00:16:21,746 Speaker 1: a two sport athlete at Miami. I think he's now 310 00:16:21,746 --> 00:16:24,026 Speaker 1: a baseball coach. I don't know for sure. We don't 311 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:27,146 Speaker 1: keep in touch on Facebook like all adults do at 312 00:16:27,146 --> 00:16:29,546 Speaker 1: this point. Um, just something to consider. And by the way, 313 00:16:29,546 --> 00:16:31,826 Speaker 1: shout out to Fordham just because add was making fun 314 00:16:31,826 --> 00:16:35,426 Speaker 1: Affordham a little bit earlier. Harry Carson continued the tradition. 315 00:16:35,546 --> 00:16:38,706 Speaker 1: It became popularized when Parcels was dasted following their Super 316 00:16:38,746 --> 00:16:42,706 Speaker 1: Bowl title in January nineteen eight seven. By the way, 317 00:16:42,746 --> 00:16:46,466 Speaker 1: when Giants defensive lineman Jim Burt dast Bill Parcels after 318 00:16:46,506 --> 00:16:49,746 Speaker 1: a mid season victory in nineteen eighty four, the research 319 00:16:49,786 --> 00:16:54,226 Speaker 1: film shows yellow the color of that Parcels gatorade bath. 320 00:16:54,426 --> 00:16:56,866 Speaker 1: I'm an orange guy all the way. The biggest question 321 00:16:56,866 --> 00:16:58,946 Speaker 1: I asked you, now, the d D your favorite color. 322 00:16:59,186 --> 00:17:02,546 Speaker 1: I'm definitely in an orange person also, But let me 323 00:17:02,546 --> 00:17:05,586 Speaker 1: tell you this, since you know we are. Let's admit 324 00:17:05,746 --> 00:17:07,306 Speaker 1: that both of us grew up in Jersey, both of 325 00:17:07,386 --> 00:17:10,306 Speaker 1: us grew up Giants fans. Obviously there are all these connections. 326 00:17:10,466 --> 00:17:14,146 Speaker 1: There are indeed claims that it was actually Mike Dicka 327 00:17:14,266 --> 00:17:17,506 Speaker 1: who was doused first, that it was the Bears Dan 328 00:17:17,626 --> 00:17:22,186 Speaker 1: Hampton who gave his head coach Mike Ditka a Gatorade shower. 329 00:17:22,666 --> 00:17:28,106 Speaker 1: So again, we're not one sure it was maybe coach Parcels, 330 00:17:28,186 --> 00:17:31,986 Speaker 1: it was maybe coach Ditka, but either way, he's a 331 00:17:32,026 --> 00:17:35,666 Speaker 1: really fun fact. Bill Schmidt, who was Gatoray's head of 332 00:17:35,706 --> 00:17:40,586 Speaker 1: sports marketing, when you heard John Madden describe a gatorade 333 00:17:40,586 --> 00:17:44,386 Speaker 1: shower during a Giants forty nine playoff game, he said, 334 00:17:44,826 --> 00:17:53,066 Speaker 1: I think I've died and gone to Heaven. Talk about marketing. Yeah, yeah, seriously, 335 00:17:53,106 --> 00:17:54,986 Speaker 1: and all these Madden commercials. I can't actually wait to 336 00:17:54,986 --> 00:17:57,186 Speaker 1: see that documentary. I think all of us been watching 337 00:17:57,226 --> 00:17:59,626 Speaker 1: them as we're watching these Sunday NFL games. It's going 338 00:17:59,666 --> 00:18:01,906 Speaker 1: to be really cool and just sort of his impact 339 00:18:02,066 --> 00:18:04,666 Speaker 1: on the game. Uh dd, we got another one. Um, 340 00:18:04,786 --> 00:18:07,186 Speaker 1: do you want to get to this one? For sure? 341 00:18:07,226 --> 00:18:11,266 Speaker 1: I do? Alright. My Flip Taco wrote us and said, 342 00:18:11,346 --> 00:18:14,466 Speaker 1: I'm getting into learning more about football. Since my boyfriend 343 00:18:14,586 --> 00:18:17,946 Speaker 1: is really into both football and fantasy football. I'd love 344 00:18:18,026 --> 00:18:21,786 Speaker 1: to hear information about the rules and the pylon, even 345 00:18:21,906 --> 00:18:24,746 Speaker 1: uniforms as they've changed over the years. And Flip Taco, 346 00:18:24,826 --> 00:18:27,266 Speaker 1: I love this last line. Thank you so much, he says, 347 00:18:27,346 --> 00:18:30,106 Speaker 1: I just love this podcast so I can learn more. 348 00:18:30,546 --> 00:18:33,186 Speaker 1: Everybody listened to Flip Taco and Flip Taco's boyfriend, You've 349 00:18:33,186 --> 00:18:37,786 Speaker 1: got yourself a keeper right there. Well, the pylon, let 350 00:18:37,786 --> 00:18:40,506 Speaker 1: me tell you this, because yeah, you know this, I 351 00:18:40,506 --> 00:18:43,346 Speaker 1: am very fascinated by the pylon camera. So we are 352 00:18:43,426 --> 00:18:46,986 Speaker 1: definitely going to have a whole episode on the pylon 353 00:18:47,226 --> 00:18:49,866 Speaker 1: and the pylon camera at some point, but just a 354 00:18:49,866 --> 00:18:53,946 Speaker 1: few really fun facts on the pylon right now. It 355 00:18:54,026 --> 00:18:58,666 Speaker 1: was created by Irwin Bud shop Bell. He was a 356 00:18:58,666 --> 00:19:02,786 Speaker 1: Big ten and high school official from Ohio and back 357 00:19:02,826 --> 00:19:06,586 Speaker 1: in March of nineteen is when he pat did a 358 00:19:06,666 --> 00:19:10,626 Speaker 1: corner marker for football fields. Pylons were first used in 359 00:19:10,666 --> 00:19:14,586 Speaker 1: the NFL in Super Bowl seven in January of nineteen 360 00:19:14,626 --> 00:19:18,986 Speaker 1: seventy three, and they became standardized in the NFL at 361 00:19:19,026 --> 00:19:24,026 Speaker 1: the owners meetings two years later. They replaced flags to 362 00:19:24,106 --> 00:19:27,226 Speaker 1: mark the corners of the end zones and look, the 363 00:19:27,266 --> 00:19:30,466 Speaker 1: flag staffs used to be steel, which is a lot 364 00:19:30,506 --> 00:19:34,866 Speaker 1: more dangerous than the rubber pliable material that pylons are 365 00:19:34,906 --> 00:19:40,826 Speaker 1: made from. The weighted pylons replaced spring coiled pylons in 366 00:19:40,826 --> 00:19:45,106 Speaker 1: the early nineteen nineties. And our friend Neil Gilman over 367 00:19:45,146 --> 00:19:48,266 Speaker 1: at Gilman Gear remember him from the field Goal episode. 368 00:19:48,786 --> 00:19:51,306 Speaker 1: He's the one that introduced the pylon cam back in 369 00:19:51,346 --> 00:19:54,266 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. But again, like I teased, we will 370 00:19:54,306 --> 00:19:56,826 Speaker 1: do a whole episode on that one, Mike, looking forward 371 00:19:56,906 --> 00:19:59,186 Speaker 1: to that one. We got Alan who also fired off 372 00:19:59,226 --> 00:20:00,906 Speaker 1: a question to the two of us and joined the 373 00:20:00,946 --> 00:20:04,586 Speaker 1: podcast almost as much as Addy's weekly calls on the 374 00:20:04,706 --> 00:20:07,946 Speaker 1: Ken Carmen Show regard and questions. What about discussing all 375 00:20:07,946 --> 00:20:12,186 Speaker 1: the nicknames for positions half back, tailback, etcetera. By the way, 376 00:20:12,546 --> 00:20:15,346 Speaker 1: can Carmen radio host which area I'm not familiar with? 377 00:20:15,346 --> 00:20:19,786 Speaker 1: He's my body Cleveland, Cleveland Ken Carmen Morning Show in Cleveland, 378 00:20:20,346 --> 00:20:22,826 Speaker 1: and I joined him once a week and we have 379 00:20:22,986 --> 00:20:27,026 Speaker 1: some good conversation. Well, daily spot, there a little fan 380 00:20:27,146 --> 00:20:30,106 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Appreciate the uh the question here? All right, 381 00:20:30,146 --> 00:20:32,066 Speaker 1: So I'll start you want to tag team this sucker here? 382 00:20:32,066 --> 00:20:34,346 Speaker 1: Because I think there's a lot to unpack, because we 383 00:20:34,346 --> 00:20:36,746 Speaker 1: already did an episode. By the way, Alan and once 384 00:20:36,786 --> 00:20:39,746 Speaker 1: again appreciate this question on player nicknames, so if anyone 385 00:20:39,786 --> 00:20:42,986 Speaker 1: has missed that episode, highly encouraged people to go back 386 00:20:42,986 --> 00:20:44,386 Speaker 1: and check that one out. That was actually a lot 387 00:20:44,386 --> 00:20:46,466 Speaker 1: of fun for us. But we'll give us a little 388 00:20:46,466 --> 00:20:48,306 Speaker 1: bit of a shot here. I'll start with the wide receivers. 389 00:20:48,466 --> 00:20:51,146 Speaker 1: I'll let you do the backs here. But before modern football, 390 00:20:51,146 --> 00:20:55,506 Speaker 1: wide receivers were known as split ends and flankers. Split ends, 391 00:20:55,546 --> 00:20:58,826 Speaker 1: now known as the X receiver were named after the 392 00:20:58,986 --> 00:21:02,226 Speaker 1: split from the end of the offensive line, so more 393 00:21:02,266 --> 00:21:04,106 Speaker 1: of just kind of like the geography of where they 394 00:21:04,146 --> 00:21:07,586 Speaker 1: actually were on the field. Ends that were tight to 395 00:21:07,626 --> 00:21:12,346 Speaker 1: the formation became known as tight ends. Flankers now known 396 00:21:12,386 --> 00:21:16,106 Speaker 1: as Z receivers, were on the opposite of the split 397 00:21:16,306 --> 00:21:19,746 Speaker 1: ends and often lined up off of the line of scrimmage. 398 00:21:19,866 --> 00:21:22,706 Speaker 1: So once again, there's a lot of like field geography 399 00:21:22,746 --> 00:21:24,986 Speaker 1: here when describing some of these positions of dB, which 400 00:21:25,026 --> 00:21:27,386 Speaker 1: is a good way to remember these things as well, right, 401 00:21:27,506 --> 00:21:31,146 Speaker 1: because they're not as random as one would thing. Okay, 402 00:21:31,186 --> 00:21:34,786 Speaker 1: now we know that I love running the football, so 403 00:21:34,826 --> 00:21:36,546 Speaker 1: I feel like it's only fair that I get to 404 00:21:36,586 --> 00:21:40,946 Speaker 1: talk about the backs, is that? Okay? Roll it all right? Well, 405 00:21:41,026 --> 00:21:44,346 Speaker 1: players that lined up behind the offensive line, we're all 406 00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:46,946 Speaker 1: known as backs because they were in the back of 407 00:21:47,026 --> 00:21:50,026 Speaker 1: the offensive line, and they were often lined up in 408 00:21:50,066 --> 00:21:53,706 Speaker 1: an eye or a split formation, so to differentiate they 409 00:21:53,706 --> 00:21:56,746 Speaker 1: were given names based on their alignments. The full backs 410 00:21:56,786 --> 00:21:59,946 Speaker 1: were the guys that were lined up furthest behind the line. 411 00:22:00,506 --> 00:22:03,346 Speaker 1: Backs that were halfway between the line and the full 412 00:22:03,346 --> 00:22:06,386 Speaker 1: back were called half backs, and in the backs that 413 00:22:06,466 --> 00:22:09,026 Speaker 1: were just a quarter of the way from the line 414 00:22:09,106 --> 00:22:13,186 Speaker 1: to the full back where the quarterbacks. How about that? 415 00:22:14,026 --> 00:22:15,946 Speaker 1: Although now we line up a little differently because of 416 00:22:15,986 --> 00:22:18,026 Speaker 1: course a fullback will be in front of a running back, 417 00:22:19,066 --> 00:22:21,306 Speaker 1: but still, back in the day, this made a lot 418 00:22:21,346 --> 00:22:23,706 Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, no, I'm with you there. Okay. So 419 00:22:23,706 --> 00:22:26,026 Speaker 1: then the other thing, obviously, Mike, that I love besides 420 00:22:26,586 --> 00:22:29,066 Speaker 1: running the ball is playing really really good defense. So 421 00:22:29,146 --> 00:22:31,706 Speaker 1: let's do some of the defensive one edge defenders. I 422 00:22:33,266 --> 00:22:36,506 Speaker 1: actually love this because I remember in college doing my 423 00:22:36,546 --> 00:22:39,306 Speaker 1: spotting boards, and you know, you kind of just think 424 00:22:39,306 --> 00:22:41,466 Speaker 1: about d NS, and over the last couple of years 425 00:22:41,546 --> 00:22:43,666 Speaker 1: or so, you started thinking about edge defenders, which was 426 00:22:43,786 --> 00:22:47,026 Speaker 1: popularized by a Pro Football Focus in the last ten 427 00:22:47,106 --> 00:22:49,946 Speaker 1: years is the three four and or a four three 428 00:22:49,946 --> 00:22:52,826 Speaker 1: defense because they've evolved over time. In fact, one of 429 00:22:52,866 --> 00:22:56,306 Speaker 1: our last episodes about defense winning Championships, we actually talked 430 00:22:56,346 --> 00:22:59,706 Speaker 1: about how the game has changed more pass heavy offenses. 431 00:22:59,746 --> 00:23:03,666 Speaker 1: So the Associated Press officially added edge rusher to its 432 00:23:03,706 --> 00:23:06,386 Speaker 1: All Pro team format in twenty six team the a P. 433 00:23:06,506 --> 00:23:09,426 Speaker 1: Actually you define edge rusher as a four three d 434 00:23:09,626 --> 00:23:13,226 Speaker 1: end or a three four outside linebacker, which to me, 435 00:23:13,386 --> 00:23:17,906 Speaker 1: it's not a huge different differentiator between edge defenders from 436 00:23:17,946 --> 00:23:21,146 Speaker 1: linebackers or defensive ends. It's just once again sort of 437 00:23:21,186 --> 00:23:23,506 Speaker 1: the placement that they have on the field. But the 438 00:23:23,626 --> 00:23:27,226 Speaker 1: edge defender primary, right, because the point right. But the point, Mike, 439 00:23:27,266 --> 00:23:29,306 Speaker 1: when we need to make clear, is that whether you 440 00:23:29,346 --> 00:23:31,946 Speaker 1: are a four three end or a three or four linebacker, 441 00:23:32,306 --> 00:23:35,186 Speaker 1: your job is to rush the past. So that's why 442 00:23:35,266 --> 00:23:38,466 Speaker 1: the edge rusher, whatever edge you're coming off of, you're 443 00:23:38,546 --> 00:23:42,146 Speaker 1: still essentially fulfilling the same purpose, no doubt, get after 444 00:23:42,186 --> 00:23:45,666 Speaker 1: the quarterback and blow up offensive place. By the way, 445 00:23:45,746 --> 00:23:47,706 Speaker 1: Sam Mike er will, who do you like best, Well, 446 00:23:47,746 --> 00:23:50,426 Speaker 1: I'd be a miclimbacker because the mic linebacker is usually 447 00:23:50,426 --> 00:23:52,706 Speaker 1: the one that actually calls out the defense. It's considered 448 00:23:52,706 --> 00:23:54,546 Speaker 1: the quarterback of the defense. And as you know, I'm 449 00:23:54,546 --> 00:23:57,026 Speaker 1: the smartest person in this podcast, and as you know, 450 00:23:57,146 --> 00:23:59,506 Speaker 1: I'm the one that's kind of the quarterback, so makes 451 00:23:59,546 --> 00:24:01,066 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I love it. By the way, 452 00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:04,666 Speaker 1: when the smartest person on the podcast has to say it, um, well, 453 00:24:05,026 --> 00:24:07,866 Speaker 1: listen to us of the two of us. But in 454 00:24:07,906 --> 00:24:11,066 Speaker 1: any case, so the Sam, the Mike, and the Will 455 00:24:11,146 --> 00:24:16,506 Speaker 1: linebackers new monic terms to explain exactly where those linebackers 456 00:24:16,506 --> 00:24:19,106 Speaker 1: are lined up. The Sam is the strong side, the 457 00:24:19,186 --> 00:24:21,506 Speaker 1: Mic is the middle linebacker, and the Will is the 458 00:24:21,546 --> 00:24:24,946 Speaker 1: weak side linebacker. I just like Mike because it's my name, 459 00:24:25,026 --> 00:24:27,586 Speaker 1: So we'll just roll with that, all right. Add plenty 460 00:24:27,586 --> 00:24:32,066 Speaker 1: more questions to get to, including my favorite one, who 461 00:24:32,146 --> 00:24:35,826 Speaker 1: is the first quarterback to actually where plays on a 462 00:24:35,906 --> 00:24:39,146 Speaker 1: wrist band? To me? Fascinating And we have the answer 463 00:24:39,226 --> 00:24:44,986 Speaker 1: coming up next on NFL Explained. 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Got some good 495 00:26:20,906 --> 00:26:23,466 Speaker 1: ones still left to fire off, some answers and a 496 00:26:23,626 --> 00:26:26,586 Speaker 1: d D. There was one from Cathy who said she 497 00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:29,986 Speaker 1: really enjoys listening to the podcast, which we absolutely love. 498 00:26:30,026 --> 00:26:32,186 Speaker 1: By the way, make sure you continue to follow us, 499 00:26:32,586 --> 00:26:35,586 Speaker 1: rate us and of course a little little review. We 500 00:26:35,666 --> 00:26:37,946 Speaker 1: love to get some feedback from you. She said. I 501 00:26:37,986 --> 00:26:40,146 Speaker 1: learned a lot of fun and cool facts. I even 502 00:26:40,146 --> 00:26:42,786 Speaker 1: shared the info about the Eagles logo with my son. 503 00:26:42,946 --> 00:26:45,706 Speaker 1: He's a huge Eagles fan. I look forward to hearing 504 00:26:45,746 --> 00:26:49,786 Speaker 1: some cool things about my Broncos. Thanks for listening as always, 505 00:26:49,786 --> 00:26:52,346 Speaker 1: and by the way, Kathy's making reference to the Eagles 506 00:26:52,386 --> 00:26:54,226 Speaker 1: logo and a d D. If I'm not mistaken. This 507 00:26:54,266 --> 00:26:57,026 Speaker 1: was one of the factoys that you dropped in that episode. 508 00:26:57,026 --> 00:27:00,026 Speaker 1: It's the only one that faces. The Eagles logo is 509 00:27:00,026 --> 00:27:03,066 Speaker 1: the only one that faces left, so that the feathers 510 00:27:03,146 --> 00:27:06,586 Speaker 1: can make an e. They're also some on Broncos stats 511 00:27:06,586 --> 00:27:08,386 Speaker 1: because she's a Broncos fan. A D D. Do you 512 00:27:08,386 --> 00:27:10,146 Speaker 1: want to kind of tag team a couple of these 513 00:27:10,226 --> 00:27:15,786 Speaker 1: cool nugs. Sure? Three championships, eight Super Bowl appearances, ten 514 00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:21,186 Speaker 1: a f C Championship appearances, fifteen a f C West titles, 515 00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:27,226 Speaker 1: twenty two playoff berth twenty nine winning seasons, and the 516 00:27:27,306 --> 00:27:30,506 Speaker 1: fifth best record in the NFL since the nineteen seventy merger. 517 00:27:30,946 --> 00:27:33,226 Speaker 1: Here's another one. They actually the Broncos actually have the 518 00:27:33,306 --> 00:27:36,826 Speaker 1: second best home record since the nineteen seventy merger as well. 519 00:27:36,946 --> 00:27:39,986 Speaker 1: I like that, although recently some of these losses. Anyway, 520 00:27:40,306 --> 00:27:42,586 Speaker 1: Broncos fans, I know, we're trying to stay positive here. 521 00:27:42,626 --> 00:27:45,226 Speaker 1: By the way, since Kathy mentioned the Eagles logo, let's 522 00:27:45,226 --> 00:27:47,826 Speaker 1: talk about the Broncos logo. It's actually gone through five 523 00:27:47,906 --> 00:27:53,066 Speaker 1: iterations since nineteen sixty. All involve the horse, and the 524 00:27:53,146 --> 00:27:57,266 Speaker 1: first two logos feature man actually riding a horse. So, 525 00:27:57,826 --> 00:27:59,466 Speaker 1: you know, as we start thinking about, you know, the 526 00:27:59,506 --> 00:28:02,346 Speaker 1: different logos, and someone had mentioned uniforms. By the way, 527 00:28:02,386 --> 00:28:04,106 Speaker 1: like I start thinking about the evolution of some of 528 00:28:04,146 --> 00:28:05,946 Speaker 1: that stuff, and I think we are going to do 529 00:28:05,986 --> 00:28:09,866 Speaker 1: an episode on that. But the real life Bronco Thunder 530 00:28:09,866 --> 00:28:13,946 Speaker 1: in its twenty ninth year as the Broncos live mascot. 531 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:16,466 Speaker 1: You know, I think about Denver and the state of 532 00:28:16,466 --> 00:28:21,506 Speaker 1: Colorado not too far from Denver, is bolder and clearly 533 00:28:21,546 --> 00:28:24,266 Speaker 1: I know all about see you. But they got Ralphie 534 00:28:24,306 --> 00:28:26,186 Speaker 1: and Ralphie you know, the buffalo kind of runs out 535 00:28:26,226 --> 00:28:29,706 Speaker 1: into the field. They're really big on like this whole animal, 536 00:28:30,106 --> 00:28:33,906 Speaker 1: you know, themed football situation there. Well, I met Sunder 537 00:28:34,346 --> 00:28:37,986 Speaker 1: the Third. There have been three Thunders and I met 538 00:28:38,146 --> 00:28:41,386 Speaker 1: Thunder three or Thunder the Third a few years ago 539 00:28:41,586 --> 00:28:46,426 Speaker 1: in Denver. Actually gorgeous, gorgeous pure bred Arabian horse, and 540 00:28:46,586 --> 00:28:48,386 Speaker 1: you know he runs from end zoned his end zone 541 00:28:48,426 --> 00:28:51,906 Speaker 1: after every Bonco's touchdown. It's pretty cool. Yeah, very cool. 542 00:28:52,186 --> 00:28:56,266 Speaker 1: Got another one here, great podcast for information. I find fascinating, 543 00:28:56,426 --> 00:28:59,546 Speaker 1: love it. Hosts are great together. Oh and I look 544 00:28:59,586 --> 00:29:02,786 Speaker 1: forward to future episodes. So do we do a segment 545 00:29:02,826 --> 00:29:04,946 Speaker 1: on sports media, which, by the way, I love, I mean, 546 00:29:04,986 --> 00:29:07,706 Speaker 1: I kind of geek out on it's maybe sometimes inside Baseball, 547 00:29:07,746 --> 00:29:11,426 Speaker 1: but um, any fun sports media stuff that we can 548 00:29:11,506 --> 00:29:15,306 Speaker 1: unleash here, Well, let's remind everybody that we did, indeed 549 00:29:15,306 --> 00:29:17,466 Speaker 1: do an episode on Monday Night Football which has to 550 00:29:17,546 --> 00:29:20,026 Speaker 1: do with media, and we had to trim premendous sports 551 00:29:20,066 --> 00:29:23,546 Speaker 1: media members join us then Ron Jowarski and the fabulous 552 00:29:23,586 --> 00:29:26,906 Speaker 1: Melissa Stark. So definitely checked that one out if you 553 00:29:26,946 --> 00:29:31,026 Speaker 1: haven't already. How about this one. The first professional football 554 00:29:31,026 --> 00:29:34,506 Speaker 1: player who was ever on the cover of Sports Illustrated, which, 555 00:29:34,546 --> 00:29:36,426 Speaker 1: of course, when I was growing up, was the mecca 556 00:29:36,626 --> 00:29:39,746 Speaker 1: sports journalism in my mind, that was Hall of Fame 557 00:29:39,826 --> 00:29:44,106 Speaker 1: quarterback why A Tittle back in nineteen fifty four. November 558 00:29:44,146 --> 00:29:47,546 Speaker 1: twenty second, nineteen fifty four. He was part of the 559 00:29:47,626 --> 00:29:51,746 Speaker 1: forty nine ers million dollar backfield, and why A. Tittle 560 00:29:51,826 --> 00:29:54,346 Speaker 1: was a seven time Pro bowler, three time first team 561 00:29:54,346 --> 00:29:57,026 Speaker 1: All Pro, and he was the NFL m v P 562 00:29:57,266 --> 00:29:59,866 Speaker 1: back in nineteen sixty three. I love it. And you know, 563 00:29:59,946 --> 00:30:02,466 Speaker 1: we made reference to Madden a little bit earlier, and 564 00:30:02,506 --> 00:30:05,186 Speaker 1: I automatically think about the cover of Madden and how 565 00:30:05,226 --> 00:30:08,906 Speaker 1: much of a cool accomplishment actually that is for players. 566 00:30:08,986 --> 00:30:13,066 Speaker 1: The first NFL player on a Madden cover shocked by 567 00:30:13,146 --> 00:30:16,426 Speaker 1: this in some ways just begins you think about some 568 00:30:16,466 --> 00:30:17,986 Speaker 1: of the players that have been on it, and this is, 569 00:30:18,026 --> 00:30:20,146 Speaker 1: I guess, clearly a shot, and I don't mean to 570 00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:21,586 Speaker 1: make it a shot. I was just surprised by it. 571 00:30:21,666 --> 00:30:26,826 Speaker 1: San Francisco running back Garrison hearst On Madden, two time 572 00:30:26,826 --> 00:30:30,946 Speaker 1: pro bowler, almost eight thousand career rushing yards. First NFL 573 00:30:31,106 --> 00:30:33,706 Speaker 1: player on a Madden cover. Not bad. You know what's 574 00:30:33,746 --> 00:30:36,026 Speaker 1: one that we may have to do, the Madden curse 575 00:30:37,906 --> 00:30:40,586 Speaker 1: or all. That's just an urban legend and we should 576 00:30:40,626 --> 00:30:43,226 Speaker 1: get some of our the Madden cover men to come 577 00:30:43,226 --> 00:30:46,306 Speaker 1: and join us. Does feel weird to you, by the way, 578 00:30:46,346 --> 00:30:49,666 Speaker 1: on Madden, Like I graduated high school in I can't 579 00:30:49,706 --> 00:30:52,346 Speaker 1: be that long ago, and I'm like, oh, man, as 580 00:30:52,346 --> 00:30:55,306 Speaker 1: we're doing this over you know, video, and I haven't 581 00:30:55,306 --> 00:30:57,106 Speaker 1: shaved in a few days, and I see some white 582 00:30:57,146 --> 00:30:59,466 Speaker 1: and some salt on the side, like I guess, yeah, 583 00:30:59,506 --> 00:31:04,066 Speaker 1: I guess, Madden, I'm getting old. D D Speak for yourself, 584 00:31:04,106 --> 00:31:07,946 Speaker 1: my friend, speak for yourself. Super Bowl one, the very 585 00:31:08,026 --> 00:31:12,106 Speaker 1: first Super Bowl one thousand media credentials were issued, and 586 00:31:12,146 --> 00:31:15,226 Speaker 1: in fact, NFL Commissioner Pete Rosel was so worried about 587 00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:18,306 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl getting enough attention that he gave his 588 00:31:18,426 --> 00:31:22,626 Speaker 1: PR staff two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to spend 589 00:31:22,706 --> 00:31:25,706 Speaker 1: on the media, just to make sure that there'd be 590 00:31:25,786 --> 00:31:29,386 Speaker 1: some hubbub and excitement and talking about Super Bowl one. Now, 591 00:31:29,466 --> 00:31:34,026 Speaker 1: fast forward to the last Super Bowl in Miami, and 592 00:31:34,666 --> 00:31:37,066 Speaker 1: this number is actually a little bit depressed because of 593 00:31:37,106 --> 00:31:41,546 Speaker 1: the pandemic. But six thousand media credentials were issued for 594 00:31:41,786 --> 00:31:44,946 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl. I will say that again, there have 595 00:31:45,066 --> 00:31:46,866 Speaker 1: been more. That's not an all time high. We're just 596 00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:50,106 Speaker 1: going from first to the latest. It's still a lot 597 00:31:50,226 --> 00:31:53,106 Speaker 1: of media members watching the games. Okay, this is my 598 00:31:53,146 --> 00:31:57,066 Speaker 1: favorite one right here, our producer Vince Havens. We love Evince. 599 00:31:57,786 --> 00:32:01,906 Speaker 1: Vince wanted to know who is the first quarterback to 600 00:32:02,186 --> 00:32:05,386 Speaker 1: put all the plays on their arm? You know how 601 00:32:05,386 --> 00:32:08,666 Speaker 1: they wear. There's wristbands, Mike and they and they write 602 00:32:08,666 --> 00:32:12,026 Speaker 1: plays on them. Yeah. And I've been meaning to ask 603 00:32:12,266 --> 00:32:15,506 Speaker 1: some of the older quarterbacks if the font gets larger 604 00:32:16,386 --> 00:32:20,666 Speaker 1: the older they catch on those wristbands. But I haven't 605 00:32:20,706 --> 00:32:22,466 Speaker 1: gotten up the courage yet to go up to Ben 606 00:32:22,546 --> 00:32:25,106 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and say, hey, do you need bigger prints than 607 00:32:25,186 --> 00:32:28,426 Speaker 1: you did when you were twenty three. In any case, 608 00:32:28,426 --> 00:32:32,346 Speaker 1: it was back in nineteen sixty five when Baltimore Colts 609 00:32:32,426 --> 00:32:37,786 Speaker 1: quarterback Johnny Unitis and his backup Gary Kozo both suffered 610 00:32:37,866 --> 00:32:40,706 Speaker 1: season ending injuries, and so it was the third string 611 00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:45,146 Speaker 1: quarterback Tom Matt, who had been a running back he 612 00:32:45,266 --> 00:32:48,866 Speaker 1: was forced to play quarterback. And it was offensive coordinator 613 00:32:48,946 --> 00:32:52,426 Speaker 1: Don McCafferty who thought, hey, why don't we do a wristband? 614 00:32:52,746 --> 00:32:56,626 Speaker 1: And it was actually Tom Matt's wife, whose handwriting was 615 00:32:56,746 --> 00:33:00,426 Speaker 1: small enough and neat enough that she helped him right 616 00:33:00,706 --> 00:33:04,786 Speaker 1: and create this wrist band while he started three games. 617 00:33:04,826 --> 00:33:06,866 Speaker 1: And one of those games is in was a playoff 618 00:33:06,906 --> 00:33:10,386 Speaker 1: game in fact, and that original wristband that Tom Matt's 619 00:33:10,426 --> 00:33:13,346 Speaker 1: wife wrote sits in the Pro Football Hall of Fame 620 00:33:13,466 --> 00:33:16,066 Speaker 1: right now. So cool. I never would have thought about that. 621 00:33:16,106 --> 00:33:18,506 Speaker 1: Of course, Vince did think of that question. So well 622 00:33:18,546 --> 00:33:21,466 Speaker 1: done by him, Den who helped think of the solution 623 00:33:21,706 --> 00:33:24,346 Speaker 1: a woman, of course. Come on, now, well, I just 624 00:33:24,386 --> 00:33:26,546 Speaker 1: think back to the episode when we had Kurt Warner 625 00:33:26,666 --> 00:33:29,226 Speaker 1: pop on with us on other player's work week. If 626 00:33:29,226 --> 00:33:30,706 Speaker 1: you missed that one, make sure you go and check 627 00:33:30,746 --> 00:33:34,186 Speaker 1: that one out. But the pillow talk between Kurt and 628 00:33:34,186 --> 00:33:37,626 Speaker 1: Brenda his wife to get him ready for games. And 629 00:33:37,706 --> 00:33:40,106 Speaker 1: this makes sense and a d D. I think there's 630 00:33:40,146 --> 00:33:42,826 Speaker 1: one thing that's abundantly clear. If I was talented enough 631 00:33:42,906 --> 00:33:45,466 Speaker 1: to be an NFL quarterback and I needed a wristband, 632 00:33:45,586 --> 00:33:49,426 Speaker 1: I would not be the one writing any place because 633 00:33:49,466 --> 00:33:52,626 Speaker 1: my penmanship is absolutely awful. If I had to get 634 00:33:52,666 --> 00:33:55,386 Speaker 1: one thing for under the tree, it would be someone 635 00:33:55,426 --> 00:33:57,466 Speaker 1: to help me with my penmanship. But that's not a 636 00:33:57,466 --> 00:34:00,026 Speaker 1: gift that I can actually get, So that's why I'm here. 637 00:34:00,106 --> 00:34:01,706 Speaker 1: I would definitely help you with that. I do have 638 00:34:01,786 --> 00:34:04,226 Speaker 1: neat handwriting, but you know what, moving on, I have 639 00:34:04,266 --> 00:34:05,706 Speaker 1: to tell you. I feel like this was a sup 640 00:34:05,786 --> 00:34:08,666 Speaker 1: for fun episodes. We need to do one of these regularly. Yeah, 641 00:34:09,626 --> 00:34:12,866 Speaker 1: we need our listeners to yes exactly. Please keep sending 642 00:34:12,906 --> 00:34:15,026 Speaker 1: us questions because it's fun to rattle through a bunch 643 00:34:15,026 --> 00:34:17,426 Speaker 1: of these, and I learned a lot, that's for sure. No, 644 00:34:17,586 --> 00:34:22,746 Speaker 1: I'm with you as well, Shotgun. I meant that I 645 00:34:22,786 --> 00:34:27,266 Speaker 1: will never see Bootleg differently other than some dude with 646 00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:31,106 Speaker 1: with a bottle of you know, prohibition whiskey and his pants. 647 00:34:31,626 --> 00:34:34,186 Speaker 1: Always appreciate these questions. By the way, A King kabala 648 00:34:34,346 --> 00:34:37,586 Speaker 1: a at Mike underscore yam um. Look, you can use 649 00:34:37,586 --> 00:34:41,546 Speaker 1: the hashtag NFL Explain. I'll continue to track and save 650 00:34:41,626 --> 00:34:44,426 Speaker 1: some of these questions for a future edition of a 651 00:34:44,466 --> 00:34:47,186 Speaker 1: mail bag episode. But a d D last thing, I 652 00:34:47,186 --> 00:34:49,266 Speaker 1: will ask you, what's what are you hoping is under 653 00:34:49,306 --> 00:34:54,546 Speaker 1: the tree? World peace? Come on now now, like you're 654 00:34:54,546 --> 00:34:56,906 Speaker 1: putting me on the spot like that. I I don't 655 00:34:56,906 --> 00:34:59,746 Speaker 1: think i've gotten you know what. I am just hoping 656 00:34:59,866 --> 00:35:04,146 Speaker 1: for more patients and grace for each other, that we 657 00:35:04,226 --> 00:35:06,666 Speaker 1: treat each other with a little bit more kindness, and 658 00:35:07,266 --> 00:35:10,746 Speaker 1: that we can come out of this COVID world and 659 00:35:10,786 --> 00:35:14,226 Speaker 1: get back to our normal lives. Hoping I can get 660 00:35:14,226 --> 00:35:16,626 Speaker 1: back into locker rooms next year. No, I'm with you there. 661 00:35:16,626 --> 00:35:18,706 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say mine because I'm gonna sound really selfish, 662 00:35:18,746 --> 00:35:20,826 Speaker 1: because I just want to be unpacked and settled down 663 00:35:20,866 --> 00:35:23,346 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. For christ who are selfish, so so 664 00:35:23,466 --> 00:35:29,026 Speaker 1: on who you are at this point, World peace for everyone. 665 00:35:29,746 --> 00:35:33,266 Speaker 1: Always appreciate everyone checking in, but Mike, Mike. Before we go, 666 00:35:33,666 --> 00:35:36,906 Speaker 1: let's thank all of our listeners that helped us launch 667 00:35:37,026 --> 00:35:39,786 Speaker 1: this podcast, to our team at my Heart, to our 668 00:35:39,826 --> 00:35:44,306 Speaker 1: producers at the NFL Network, in the NFL Media Group, everybody. 669 00:35:44,706 --> 00:35:48,506 Speaker 1: We've had a blast and let's keep it going in two. 670 00:35:48,706 --> 00:35:52,346 Speaker 1: So everybody out there, happy, happy holidays, Happy New Year. 671 00:35:52,466 --> 00:35:57,026 Speaker 1: May twenty two bring all that you wish for. And 672 00:35:57,226 --> 00:36:07,986 Speaker 1: that was mail Bad questions Explain America's most reliable network 673 00:36:08,066 --> 00:36:10,906 Speaker 1: is going ultra with Verizon five G Ultra wide ban 674 00:36:10,986 --> 00:36:13,426 Speaker 1: and more and more places with up to ten times 675 00:36:13,466 --> 00:36:16,186 Speaker 1: faster speeds. 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