1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: never told your protection of I Heart Radio, and welcome 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: to another Monday Mini where we're gonna talk about sad 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: things because that's what we do sometimes. And unfortunately, the 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: reality is there's a lot happening and we can't shy 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: away from it no matter how much we want to. 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: So go ahead and put this as your content warning. 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: We are talking about abortion and what is happening around 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: this country as the band has taken place and many 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: of the states have gone to a total band, slash 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: heartbeat band or the six week to fifteen week bands. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, if you're not ready for this, if you 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: don't want to deal with this right now, that's fine, 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: but just remember we can't ignore it because it is 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: happening and we are having to deal with it. So yeah, 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: all those things and there is a lot happening. As 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: mid terms are throwing, abortion has continued to be a 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: hot topic of conversation, as it should be, and as expected, 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: our Republican senator took it a step further from the original. 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we wanted to be a state decision. This 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: is not about anything else but state rights. Uh, stance 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: they were preaching to, let's make it federal, because of 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: course it wasn't about state rights, as we have found 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: out on most a moral political grandstanding when it comes 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: to human rights. Yes, recently, Senator Graham, with public support 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: from the president of the Susan B. Anthony, Pro Life 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: America and other anti abortion leaders, stood up to announce 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: his bill that would ban abortion after fifteen weeks across 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: the nation. Um, that was real commentary, something like I 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: was a broadcaster across the nation naming the bill quote 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: protecting pain Capable unborn Children from Late Term Abortion Act, 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: of course, which is misleading in many ways, including the 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: use of late term, which by the way, is not 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: an actual term. Is not a doctor medical term, just 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: in case you're wondering, and it's usually noted that fetal 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: viability is not considered to around twenty four weeks, just 37 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: to put that in your head, right. And though he 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: was originally quoted as saying, if the Supreme Court overturns 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade, it means that every state will decide 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: if abortion is legal and on what terms. That, in 41 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: my view, is the most constitutionally sound way of dealing 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: with this issue and the way the United States handled 43 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: the issue until nineteen seventy three, which yeah, has quickly 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: changed in a few short months and has now come 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: background to him saying that the new translation of the 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: overturning of Roe v. Wade includes officials on every level 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: to make the decision and standing firm that he hasn't 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: changed his ue. So yeah, all of a sudden, the 49 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: States was like, no, but that includes federal which is like, 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: all right, that's not how the okay dude. Of course, 51 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: many have used this as either a fighting tactic or 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: something to shame, as politicians on both sides continue to 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: weaponize the anti choice is conversation to get more money 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: or more airtime. And please understand, yes, this is a 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: big issue that we should talk about, but having officials 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: send us requests for money instead of telling us what 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: they're going to do to change is irritating to say 58 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: the least. Interestingly enough, we have also seen many conservatives 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: shy away or outright turn their backs on the abortion 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: issues altogether. There have been several who have said, you know, 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: we don't necessarily agree with Mr Graham, Senator to Graham 62 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: on his stance. Even Mitch McConnell saying that he doesn't 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: believe this will be ever a thing, so he doesn't 64 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: even want to deal with it. So a lot of 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: things are happening. Even those in Texas and Pennsylvania have 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: backed away from the topic even though they are Texas 67 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: is pretty big for it, we know why, and Pennsylvania 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: is a pretty big swing state. So there's a lot 69 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: of conversations happening right which we've talked about a lot 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: in in some past episodes. But the effect has already 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: caused many issues around the country, and many women have 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: shared stories of having to drive across state lines to 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: access safe care in order to abort non viable fetuses, 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: and many who have had to return home to wait 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: to hear back on whether they are approved, while oftentimes 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: endangering the pregnant person due to dangerous infections and even 77 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: potentially leading to death. Rolina Stills, a woman from Texas, 78 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: shared her heartbreaking story of a miscarriage that was prolonged 79 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: due to Texas and its stringent abortion band. Another woman 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: was noted to being hospitalized due to sepsis after having 81 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: a miscarriage, but not permitted to have the fetus removed 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: due to the Heartbeat Bill. Right and as in fact 83 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: that report when they were talking about these two women, 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: the woman who was sent home and actually came back 85 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: hospitalized because you apparently had kidney failing you as well, 86 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: they told her straight out that you have to be 87 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: closer to death before we can do anything about it, 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: because technically there was still a heartbeat even though the 89 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: fetus was no longer thriving. Mm hmmmm um. Many other 90 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 1: incidents around the country have been shared, not only publicly, 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: but to the actual ballmakers and congress people who have 92 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: slowly come to understand the detriment of these types of bands. 93 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: According to Fox News, of all networks uh their own research, 94 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: they have found that at least of listeners did not 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: support the abortion ban, and that was a thirteen point 96 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: jump from the original percentage, right, Like, that's pretty shocking, um, 97 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: even though we have had higher numbers in the state 98 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: of Georgia, I'm talking about the approval of abortion rights. 99 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: For Fox News to do their own polling and to 100 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: have these results says a lot. There's so many across 101 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: the nation who continue to talk about this, and as 102 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: we talked about previously, a lot of people are changing 103 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: their stands as a lot of conservatives are actually looking 104 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: at this issue as something that they would base their 105 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: votes on, as previously they would just ignore it. So 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: this is a whole bigger conversation. Of course, there's still 107 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: conservatives who lean in and say it is about the 108 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: life of the child, and I will bank my whole 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: political career on it. Uh. The radical left is making 110 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: this a big issue, and we want to see them 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: put their money where their mouth is because this is 112 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: about abortion on demand, which is a whole new term 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: that I haven't heard you too often. Now it's coming 114 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: back around. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I've been on the 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: wrong side of the the conversation here, maybe, and I've 116 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: been on the other side of the conversation here too long. 117 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: But calling an abortion on demand, obviously the whole idea 118 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: of autonomy is what we're talking about, and if that's needed, 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: then that that that is what it is. I think 120 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: we also need to remember once again, this is the 121 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: conversation we're having that when it comes to abortion bands, 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: that it does endanger so many people, um and so 123 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: many of those who can't access anything. Okay, So, according 124 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: to another report, a woman from Alabama, and she's not 125 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: the only one because there's been several reports was recently 126 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: arrested for marijuana and when it was reported that she 127 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: was six weeks pregnant, which by the way, she apparently 128 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: had just recently found out on the day of the arrest, 129 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: she was placed in jail without bond or bail um 130 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: and she was rejected by a drug facility after being 131 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: assessed because she was not in need of that type 132 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: of treatment. Again, marijuana is not enough for treatment just 133 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: in case you are wondering. And she was still locked 134 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: up for the next three months as way of caring 135 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: for the fetus, and so this is to protect her 136 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: all the while she was not getting care in the 137 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: treatment while she was in jail. Um she was having 138 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: to share beds with other women to the point that 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: she slept on the floor just to be able to sleep. 140 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: And she was not given access to any kind of 141 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: uh neonatal special care. From what I understand, I think 142 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: she got the regular care which she went to the 143 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: doctor if you got sick. And there are others who 144 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: have talked about the unsanitarian in human treatment of pregnant 145 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: people are those who have given birth. One woman recounted 146 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: that she was arrested after getting her prescription filled right, 147 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 1: So essentially she had a prescription that had been filled 148 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: by doctor she wighed a little bit, wouldn't got it, 149 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: And because those medications could endanger the fetus, they are 150 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: rested her um and kept her in jail. Again, the 151 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: levels that we see that is happening, and we're not 152 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: just going to bank it and say just we've heard 153 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: a lot of extreme things coming out of both Alabama 154 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: and Texas, but we know this is everywhere. This is everywhere, 155 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: and this is just the beginning of what we're seeing. 156 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: And just because it didn't happen in another place doesn't 157 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: mean it couldn't. And that's something that we have to 158 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: be reminded of as well as the fact and apparently 159 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: there was a woman who had given birth, had tested 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: positive opioids, and was arrested right after giving birth and 161 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: was not given any type of treatment, was not allowed 162 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: any kind of paths or sanitary napkins because she was 163 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: bleeding by the way while she was in jail, and 164 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: she was not allowed to have them. Even though her 165 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: partner try to bring it to her um, they were denied. 166 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: So there's so many things that this conversation has to 167 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: be taking place, because this is not about life anymore 168 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: as we can see, because who are they truly protecting? Right, 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: there have been many who are trying to predict the 170 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: possibility of things to come in order to kind of 171 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: give a warning and prepare people. Uh. And the article 172 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: includes research from the world health organizations as well as 173 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: scholastic researchers through universities around the country. So here are 174 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: some things that they listed off as possible things to 175 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: be affected. Less access, which is kind of like yes stuff, 176 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: because we've seen many clinics that have been closed down 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: as of recently. I've seen many clinics that I have 178 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: followed personally on social media who are literally saying, thank 179 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: you so much for uh your support, We're so sad 180 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: to have to do this, and here's access for anywhere else. 181 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: That includes, of course, that this is making women or 182 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: making those pregnant having to travel travel across state lines 183 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: which costs a lot of money. Um. Recently, another story 184 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: out of Alabama was a woman who had to travel 185 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: to New York because she had a miscarriage and she 186 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: was afraid that she wasn't going to get access um 187 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: to healthcare to get the unviable fetus out of course um. 188 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: And then there's of course the increase of weight time, 189 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: which has always been kind of a ploy. If you've 190 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: heard our episode about crisis pregnancy centers, that is actually 191 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: a tactic they would use by elongating the time and 192 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: wait time and telling you, oh no, no, you can't 193 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: now and us to light so sorry, but actually happening 194 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: because all of the neighboring states that do have clinics 195 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: or accessibility are so um packed out with appointments that 196 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: their kids not get to everyone, which is a whole 197 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: different level um. And then there's of course the financial strain. 198 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: We've talked about it many times and we'll keep talking 199 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: about it, but we know that abortion bands don't affect 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: those who are higher on the income skill, and this 201 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: will only make the divide greater to who has accessibility 202 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: and who doesn't. We also talked about the fact that 203 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: those who can afford and do have healthcare and do 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: have to have a medical do have a medical reason 205 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: to have an abortion, oftentimes still can't afford it because 206 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: it is up being hundreds of thousands of dollars because 207 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: of these types of languages about abortion. Yes, again we've 208 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: talked about d n S and d n c s 209 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: and why these are abortion that people are still apparently 210 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: fighting about, which I'm confused by, but maybe that's just 211 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: me UM. And then of course this makes for more 212 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: unsafe conditions. Bands don't stop abortion, but often stops safe abortion. 213 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: We've talked many times that we don't have to revert 214 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: back to the nineteen seventies of all the dangerous methods 215 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: that were used at that point in time, and they're 216 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: more access but that doesn't mean it's always safe, and 217 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that it always works and that people 218 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:38,239 Speaker 1: are able to access the medications needed for medically induced abortions. 219 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: We know that we know that people have been denied 220 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: things like plan B at different pharmaceuticals because of their 221 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: religious beliefs. Um the pharmacists who may or may not 222 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: choose to give it to you, and that they have 223 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: the right to according to those policies. UM. So that 224 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: can also lead to desperation, and we know what happens 225 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: when people are desperate. UM, And of course with the 226 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: unsafe conditions in the increase of maternal death rates could happen. 227 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: In a report conducted by University of Colorado, Boulder, they 228 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: stated that had had there been no abortions in twenty 229 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: Had it been completely banned, the maternal death rate would 230 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: have risen to an increase of fourteen percent UM. They 231 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: had an interesting chart which showed which states would have 232 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: been affected because they were able to get access to 233 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: that UM. Obviously, this also criminalizes UH marginalized people more 234 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: likely because they are arrested, like in Alabama for different 235 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: charges including endangering as they said, or murder as they 236 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: put UM. A lot of these bills under We know 237 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Texas has the bounties that have been happening as well, 238 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: so it becomes a whole sticky situation. I know none 239 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: of you are surprised a long listeners, but at the 240 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: same time we still want to keep up to date 241 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: about what's happening and what we need to see. Of course, 242 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: there are other good news. The a c, l U 243 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: and different organizations have been able to halt many of 244 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: these UH in humane laws, so it is also good 245 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: to watch for that because that doesn't mean that justice 246 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: systems can happen, but with the unlikelihood. But never say never, 247 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of things have happened recently. UM that 248 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: the federal band does go into play, that will get 249 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: all swept off and literally we're back to square one. Yeah, 250 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: and there's just so much going on. Um. I think 251 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: today as I was checking the news, I saw all 252 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: these very depressing headlines and numbers about about abortion, about 253 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: politicians who are calling for like jailing of of women 254 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: and people who are pregnant. That was just very frightening 255 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: because you read but yes, there's also good news in there. 256 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: People fighting there always have been, and so that's good 257 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: to keep in mind as well. And this is obviously 258 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: something that we are going to continue to talk about 259 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: and we'll keep checking in on it because it's so important. 260 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: And as always, listeners, um where we're here with you, 261 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: right there with you. If you have any resources you 262 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: want to share from where you're located, whether that's somewhere 263 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: in the U. S. Or whether that's somewhere around the 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: world when it comes to abortion, please let us know. 265 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: You can email as A stuff with your mom stuff 266 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: at I hurt mea dot com. 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