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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The alleed addition as the O

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<v Speaker 1>and two Bengals head to New York badly in need

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<v Speaker 1>of a victory if they face the one and one

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets. Coming up, I'll be joined by Ian

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<v Speaker 1>Eagle from CBS Sports, who called that wild season opener

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<v Speaker 1>against the Steelers and will be in the booth this

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday in the Meadowlands. Running Back samaj p Rhin joins

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<v Speaker 1>me to discuss something he did against the Cowboys last

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<v Speaker 1>week that wowed coaches and teammates. I'll discuss the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line issues with Dave Lapham and finally, it's our

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<v Speaker 1>no the Faux segment as we visit with Rich Samini,

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<v Speaker 1>who covers the Jets for ESPN. The Bengals Booth Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>over direct heat for three minutes, then flip it over

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<v Speaker 1>follow the same formula over indirect heat three minutes on

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<v Speaker 1>one side and three on the other. Remove the stake

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<v Speaker 1>from the grill, let it rest for five minutes, and

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<v Speaker 1>the result is juicy, mouthwatering perfection. But don't take it

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<v Speaker 1>from me, try it yourself with the rule of three. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look ahead to Sunday's game against the Jets, beginning

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<v Speaker 1>with one of my favorite broadcasters. He called the Bengal

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<v Speaker 1>season opener, and he will be back in the booth

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<v Speaker 1>for CBS this Sunday. My pal I an Eagle, So

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<v Speaker 1>that season opening game was a broadcaster's dream, although Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>fans obviously did not like the finish. You had a

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<v Speaker 1>classic what is happening here call in overtime on a

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<v Speaker 1>missed Steelers field goal. But ian was that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the wackier final stretches of a game you've had in

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Dan, I've been doing this a long time now,

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty five years at CBS, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I could come up with another roller coaster Rye

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<v Speaker 1>type of finish. I've had game winners, I've at Hail Mary,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had flea flickers, But the sequence of events that

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<v Speaker 1>led to where we ultimately got to, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>anybody could have possibly imagined it. It's rare that long

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<v Speaker 1>snappers become parts of the narrative and the conversation, and

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<v Speaker 1>we realized very much in the moment that this could

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<v Speaker 1>play a big role in the final and it did

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<v Speaker 1>for Cincinnati. Obviously, that's a heartbreaking loss, but from a

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasters point of view, it had just about everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you look for in these Week one mysteries because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it feels like every year in the NFL, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will never take the long snapper for granted. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the Bengals. Through two games, they've surrendered

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen sacks. They obviously addressed the offensive line in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you consider that to still be the biggest question mark.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the biggest question mark coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Clearly it's still an issue. I wouldn't pin

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<v Speaker 1>everything on the offensive line. I think when you break

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<v Speaker 1>things down and try to figure out how to make

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<v Speaker 1>it better, it's a lot of different parts. Running game

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<v Speaker 1>has to be better. I think there's probably a way

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<v Speaker 1>to create a bit more in play action and movement

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<v Speaker 1>in trying to put Burrow in positions where it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all on his shoulders at all times and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get there. There's too much talent, there's too much

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<v Speaker 1>belief in that locker room, there's too much shared success

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<v Speaker 1>from last year for it to completely evaporate. But what

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<v Speaker 1>ends up happening is every year in the NFL you

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<v Speaker 1>get this very strong reminder it's hard to win. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to win games, and when you have it rolling

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<v Speaker 1>like the Bengals did last season. It's hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>not seeing things go smooth and having everything work out

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you think it's supposed to. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a league where you enjoy success, but you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with adversity, and the Bengals right now they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the second part of that equation. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to bounce back from these adverse results.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no such thing as a must win game in

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<v Speaker 1>Week three, but there are critical games, particularly after an

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<v Speaker 1>O and two start. How critical is this game for

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati in your opinion, Well, you just look at the numbers, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the course of NFL history since the merger,

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<v Speaker 1>if you start O and three, you have a two

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<v Speaker 1>point five percent chance of making the playoffs. Can it

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<v Speaker 1>happen yes? Does it happen often? No? So you need

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<v Speaker 1>to win. You need to get that feeling back a

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<v Speaker 1>just for your own locker room and for the guys

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<v Speaker 1>and the staff to experience it. And then secondly, the

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<v Speaker 1>mathematic the stats don't lie. You put yourself in an

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<v Speaker 1>O and three hole, it's going to be very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to climb out of this division. Still very much up

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<v Speaker 1>in the air, Pittsburgh trying to figure things out. Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>clearly has dealt with a great deal of drama, coming

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<v Speaker 1>off among the worst losses I've ever seen in Week two,

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<v Speaker 1>and Baltimore, a team whose identity was very much entrenched

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<v Speaker 1>in our brains as NFL observers, now redefining who they

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<v Speaker 1>are just a little bit. So. The division's up for grabs.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to win football games to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the mix. We're chatting with I an Eagle. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Jets. The Jets were the team that handed

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland that unbelievable loss last week, scoring fourteen points in

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute and a half. They only won four

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<v Speaker 1>games last year. They're one and one this year. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Flacco is playing better. What stands out to you about

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets through two games an injection of youth more

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else. They desperately needed an impact draft class,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've gotten it with Wilson who emerged last week.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly they're Ohio fans that are very familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>his work with Sauce Gardner, who you know quite well,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cincinnati fans know quite well. They just needed legit

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<v Speaker 1>talent guys that step onto that field and you know

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<v Speaker 1>on first glance that they're going to actually be good

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<v Speaker 1>pros that you don't have to worry about what they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the next five to seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Hall, same deal. Really talented running back out of

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa State who was highly productive, and you're seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>at this level. His subtle movement, his burst, his abilities

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<v Speaker 1>in both running the football and catching the ball. That's apparent.

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<v Speaker 1>They desperately needed young players to step forward, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten it in the first two weeks. They're seeing results.

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<v Speaker 1>They know they're a better team than they were a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago, but it's hard to evaluate them until Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson's under center and until their franchise quarterback is gaining

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<v Speaker 1>the necessary experience. Just like Bengals fans needed to see

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<v Speaker 1>it with Joe Burrow, Jets fans need to see it

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<v Speaker 1>with Zach Wilson. The injured right knee suffered on the

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<v Speaker 1>second possession of the preseason. That's curtailed the timetable a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's why Joe Flacco was brought in. Veteran presence,

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<v Speaker 1>been through everything, experienced and can still throw the football

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<v Speaker 1>around a little bit. That was a huge win for

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<v Speaker 1>their team, the question can they back it up and

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<v Speaker 1>sustain success? That's tough to do in this league. You

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<v Speaker 1>typically visit with some players and coaches before you call

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<v Speaker 1>a Bengals game. Is there anybody in particular on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster on the coaching staff that you look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>talking to? Yeah, I gotta tell you. Jamar Chase in

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<v Speaker 1>just one year has come a very long way. When

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<v Speaker 1>we sat down with them as rookie season, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there was still the feeling out process. A he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know quite the success level that he was going to have,

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<v Speaker 1>so there might be that trepidation of being yourself until

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<v Speaker 1>you have the success to back it up. But this year,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down with him week one, what a pleasure. Really smart,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly mature, understands what the job is, what it entails.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he is already one of the leaders on

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<v Speaker 1>this team. He's going to emerge as an even bigger

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<v Speaker 1>leader because of his production and because of the way

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<v Speaker 1>that it carries himself. I just think that he's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole package and the Bengals are fortunate to have him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he wants to be great, And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's an assumption in this leak. Everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be great, there's another level of dedication that's required to

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<v Speaker 1>be among the best, and I think he happens to

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<v Speaker 1>have that gene and that attribute that's going to put

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<v Speaker 1>him above the rest very well. Put in twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years of doing this, is there anybody league wide in

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<v Speaker 1>those meetings that stands out as the all time best?

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning was the first player I talked to when

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<v Speaker 1>I got the CBS job. Dan nineteen ninety eight, I

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<v Speaker 1>did his NFL debut. It happened to be my CBS

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<v Speaker 1>debut with Mark May Indianapolis, Miami, Dan Marino the QB

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<v Speaker 1>for the Dolphins, and Peyton Manning making his first NFL start.

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<v Speaker 1>We have our production meeting. First guy we meet with,

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton walks in the room. First of all, he's bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than you think. He walks in the room and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, he's legitimately six foot five. He filled out

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of his career. But he extends his

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<v Speaker 1>hand and says, Hey, Ian I'm Peyton Manning. Nice to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you. So he knows my name. That means that

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<v Speaker 1>he did a little research ahead of time, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a thoroughness and attention to detail and his answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Even then, I'm filling up my yellow pad. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>ten twelve things that I can use on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And he never disappointed in all those years. He might

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<v Speaker 1>be the only NFL player that called me by my name,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just happened to be the first one in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years of doing it. But I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to put a Hall of Fame together

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<v Speaker 1>of production, meeting interviews, Peyton Manning is a first ballot

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Famer. All right, final question for I an Eagle,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a personal one. Your parents were entertainers. Your

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<v Speaker 1>dad was an actor and a comedian. Your mom was

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<v Speaker 1>a singer. When you are a little kid, at least

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<v Speaker 1>some of the times you are part of their act.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how old you were, what the

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<v Speaker 1>costume was, and what the act consisted of, Dan hard hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the answers the people want to know. I

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<v Speaker 1>was six years old. I was the last part of

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<v Speaker 1>their act for about ten months and then I retired.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an emotional ceremony where I ended my reign.

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<v Speaker 1>And entertainment act was five minutes long. It consisted of

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<v Speaker 1>Impressions Howard Cosell conducting interviews with Muhammad Ali WC. Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>This was very topical humor at the time, nineteen seventy five,

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<v Speaker 1>and my parents dressed me in a three piece suit.

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<v Speaker 1>Three piece suit. Social Services came to our apartment about

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<v Speaker 1>six months afterwards to question my parents as to whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not they were putting me on the right track

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<v Speaker 1>for life success. They say, he can find everything on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no amount of money I wouldn't pay to

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<v Speaker 1>see six year old Iron Eagle in his three piece

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<v Speaker 1>suit doing his five minute act. Then I mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>was brown, The suit was brown, and dan last part

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<v Speaker 1>I killed Iyan's dad. Jack Eagle started a famous Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl commercial in the nineteen seventies. He played a month

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<v Speaker 1>brother Dominic who was assigned to make five hundred copies

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<v Speaker 1>of a handwritten document. After sneaking away from the monastery

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<v Speaker 1>to use a xerox copy machine, he returns quickly with

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<v Speaker 1>a giant stack of copies, and a fellow monk says

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<v Speaker 1>it's a miracle. It was voted one of the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten Super Bowl commercials of all time. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>coaches met with a media on Wednesday, and I felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a time machine had taken me to Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen when the Packers started the season one

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<v Speaker 1>and two and Aaron Rodgers said five letters for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>out there in Packer Land R E L a X

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<v Speaker 1>Relax Rogers and the Packers backed it up by finishing

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<v Speaker 1>that season twelve and four. Well. Joe Burrow has a

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<v Speaker 1>similar message for Bengals fans after two straight losses to

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<v Speaker 1>begin the season, everyone is frustrated, but like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not panicking. Two games in, we got fifteen games left.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's all just take a deep breath and relax. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fine. We got to go out and play

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<v Speaker 1>well this week and get a win. Can't go down

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<v Speaker 1>oh and three, But like I said, we're not panicking.

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<v Speaker 1>We're focused on one week at a time, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go out there and get our best shot this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a great game plan, we're gonna execute

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<v Speaker 1>it well, and we've got great players, great coaches, understand

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<v Speaker 1>our plan and know what we need to do to

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<v Speaker 1>fix it. We did it last year. We were in

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<v Speaker 1>here talking about the same exact stuff several times last

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<v Speaker 1>year and everyone saw how it worked out. So now

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<v Speaker 1>we're focused on getting it right, getting better. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no panic, a lot of urgency, but no panic.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly that no panic message came from the top is

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor made nearly identical comments since the panic from others,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just not what's happening for us. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes it's the easiest thing to say just to

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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody to calm down. We're okay, We're a good

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<v Speaker 1>football team. We'll get to where we need to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just about going and having a great Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really what we are focused on today. Having tremendous energy,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the plan, asking questions of the plan, going out

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<v Speaker 1>there and having our best Wednesday we can possibly have.

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<v Speaker 1>To put ourself in a great position to go have

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<v Speaker 1>a great Thursday and continue to piggyback on that and

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<v Speaker 1>just gain some momentum, find our first win, and then

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<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath and continue to get the ball roll.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go back to last season and don't count

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season finale where coach Taylor rested his starters.

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<v Speaker 1>The bengals last seven games have come down to the

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<v Speaker 1>final minute before the Super Bowl. Last second interceptions and

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<v Speaker 1>dramatic field goals allowed the Bengals to win, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. In the first two games of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense played well but could not get a stop

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<v Speaker 1>when the game was on the line, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>team won romatic fashion. I discussed it with Dave Lapham.

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<v Speaker 1>For the sake of two plays, they could be two

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<v Speaker 1>and oh literally one playing either game, and they're two

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<v Speaker 1>and o. And the truth is they still would have

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that they have to rectify, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>much easier pill to swallow when you're two and oh

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to oh and two. And that's the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that's why everybody's like, oh my gosh, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's following what's going on, because the expectations after finishing

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<v Speaker 1>the way they finished. But like you described, Dan, they

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<v Speaker 1>were winning games down the stretch and through the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>this way, but they were finishing them. They were the

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<v Speaker 1>ones kicking the game winning field goals instead of the

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<v Speaker 1>other team kicking game winning field goals against them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a fine line. It's razor thin. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you kind of tightrote that kind of a line,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this kind of thing can take place. There's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no two ways about it. That is life in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. Life in the NFL also includes injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>and we learned and when day the tight end Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Sample is going to have knee surgery and will be

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<v Speaker 1>out of action for months, if not the entire year.

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Asiassi, who has claimed off waivers from New England

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<v Speaker 1>just before the start of the season, is expected to

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<v Speaker 1>join Hayden Hurst and Mitchell Wilcox as the Bengals active

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. One of Drew Sample's strengths is blocking, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he left the game in Dallas, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys who helped fill his role was running back samaj

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<v Speaker 1>p Ryan. In fact, if you watched the two point

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<v Speaker 1>conversion passed the Tyler boyd p Rhyan wound up having

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<v Speaker 1>to block Cowboys star Micah Parsons one on one and

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<v Speaker 1>handled him like he was an all Pro tackle. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not why you called the play to match up a

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<v Speaker 1>running back on Michael Parsons. I promise you that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy can line up on the left side of

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<v Speaker 1>the entirety of the drive and then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden be on the right and you just got to

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<v Speaker 1>call the protection the way you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to trying to help everybody there, and just the

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<v Speaker 1>way he worked out. He lined up outside samaj and

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<v Speaker 1>Smage did a great job holding him off. Refit in

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<v Speaker 1>his hands. So that's just what he veteran player like

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<v Speaker 1>him brings the table. Smage did not practice that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was devas rue Sample and Hayden and Somaje get

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<v Speaker 1>stornto the fire he's got at halftime or in the

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<v Speaker 1>O two package and do a good job executing a

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<v Speaker 1>unique play down there in the goal line that was

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<v Speaker 1>really just meant for inside the three and steps up

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<v Speaker 1>does it initially maybe lined up wrong, but but got

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<v Speaker 1>it fixed, tightened down. There was a little concern there

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment, lines up right and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>just blocks his tail off for you know, five seconds

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it seemed like, and allowed for us to

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<v Speaker 1>tie the game. I talked to p Ryan about that block,

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<v Speaker 1>the team Z and two start and the final offensive

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<v Speaker 1>play of the Super Bowl this week? Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>the two point conversion last week against the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the assignment of blocking Micah Parsons one on

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<v Speaker 1>one and did a great job. Gave Joe plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>time to throw that ball. Describe that process when you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you're matched up against that guy, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to keep them away from your quarterback blocking this ninety

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<v Speaker 1>percent effort and ten percent technique. So just gave everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I had and came out on the winning side

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<v Speaker 1>of it. How does that satisfaction compared to a big

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<v Speaker 1>play with the ball? A big player is a big

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<v Speaker 1>play where it's blocking, whether it's uh, you actually doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know the the end result is what we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be. So I can never complain about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you consider blocking to be one of your strengths?

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<v Speaker 1>I take pride in it, So you know, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to block block an elite player like that for

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I did, you know it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a definite win for me. Was that enjoyable to

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<v Speaker 1>see again? When you guys watch tape on Monday? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it was cool that they showed it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was just the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just me, you know, doing whatever I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do to help the team be in position to win

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<v Speaker 1>a game. We're visiting the my JP Ryan. The team

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<v Speaker 1>has dropped the first two games and walk off field

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<v Speaker 1>goals of fifty plus yards. How much of a gut

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<v Speaker 1>punch has that been? Um, you never want to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's getting blown out or whether it's like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>walk off field goals. So it's unfortunate, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what kind of team we have. We just

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<v Speaker 1>have to continue to come together and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to start faster. You know, these past two

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<v Speaker 1>games we haven't started as fast we were like, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we just have to come out and and

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<v Speaker 1>start fast and finish faster because we know now we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get everyone's best shot. You know, there's no more

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<v Speaker 1>looking over the Bengals, there's no more circling the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>and all. Yet this is a for sure win. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're the team that everyone wants to beat, So we

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<v Speaker 1>have to come out and and act like it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these past two games we haven't we haven't started like

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted too, so you know, we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to put our heads down and grind and just

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<v Speaker 1>trusting each other and you know, things will start coming

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<v Speaker 1>together for us. Other than talking about it and emphasizing it,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any way to try to create a better start,

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<v Speaker 1>a faster start, Uh, just not play behind the chains.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've had penalties, we had breakdown protections, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is. We've always just just found a way to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot ourselves in the foot. And we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, more sound and starts in practice. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to we have to continue to put together

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<v Speaker 1>great practices. We can't go out and have okay practices

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<v Speaker 1>or good practices. We have to consistently have great practices

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, like I said, we're gonna get everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>best shot, and we have to match and exceed that

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<v Speaker 1>intensity weekend and week out. Is the intensity different after

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<v Speaker 1>you lose a couple in a row. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to us to set that intensity. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches aren't going to be able to do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever else is going to be able to. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and be intentional about technique and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being on top of things. If someone messes up, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to redo it and that's gonna come to come

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<v Speaker 1>from us, because at the end of the day, we're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones out there, We're the ones who have to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we're really gonna have to step up

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<v Speaker 1>and just be intentional about the little things, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it always comes down to, you know, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little twitch and a false start, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone doesn't get the right call. We just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be intentional about the little things, all right. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>more questions for some I JP Ryan. You celebrated a

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<v Speaker 1>birthday last week, happy twenty seventh, and the Bengal social

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<v Speaker 1>media team did something that I found hysterical. They created

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<v Speaker 1>a Sami jp Ryan filter so that as your teammates

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<v Speaker 1>went to wish you a happy birthday, they looked like

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<v Speaker 1>you no hair and a big beard. Well, what was

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<v Speaker 1>your reaction to the sma jp Ryan filter. It was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely interesting. I've never seen anything like that before. It

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<v Speaker 1>definitely caught me off guard, but little school and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it and got a good laugh out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it was it was interesting for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Hubbard was my person a favorite in the som

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<v Speaker 1>jp Ryan filter. Did you have one I would say

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<v Speaker 1>either Sam Archito, those two they got caught off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>The most I would say that was it was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good stuff, all right. Final question. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to ask you this since the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl final offensive play. Joe's getting hit by Aaron Donald.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of shot puts one in your direction that

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<v Speaker 1>looked uncatchable from the TV angle. But was it close?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it tantalizingly, you know, hanging in the air. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like if it was in the air for another

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<v Speaker 1>half a second, it would have been close. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen everyone, Oh yeah, if you would have no, you

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<v Speaker 1>would have caught it. If you would have did this,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have caught it. But it's like if you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't there, and if you weren't in that position, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how you gonna tell me what I could have done?

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<v Speaker 1>And even if I would have caught it, I still

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have got the first down, so it wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>mattered in the first place. But you know, I watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>watched it again, thought about all the different things, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to coaches, you know about if they saw something different,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone here is on the same page. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>moved on from it. You know, I haven't given any

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<v Speaker 1>second thought because I know if I do, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna it's just gonna, you know, eat at me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got no time for that. You know. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to go out and trying to get back there,

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<v Speaker 1>and that starts with, you know, getting our first win

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. I appreciate your time, thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 1>and best of luck against the Jets. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Sabaj is averaged four point six yards per

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals offensive line. Through two games, Cincinnati has surrendered thirteen sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's three more than any other team, and going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs, Joe Burrow has been sacked at least

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<v Speaker 1>six times in four of their last five games. L

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<v Speaker 1>Collins had a tough time against Michael Parsons last week

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<v Speaker 1>and did not practice on Wednesday due to a sore back.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Dave Lapham. He basically missed training him with the

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<v Speaker 1>back probably, and honestly he has struggled because he's gone

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<v Speaker 1>against two really outstanding edge rush guys. All you have

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<v Speaker 1>is t J. Watt Defensive Player of the Year in

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<v Speaker 1>week one, and then in week two he had a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was runner up. He was the defensive Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year and runner up to t J. Watt

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<v Speaker 1>as Defensive Player of the Year, Michael Michael Parsons. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like, that's pretty good tannem to start

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<v Speaker 1>out with. But honestly, I'm wondering his bet. He looks

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<v Speaker 1>to me like he's a little stiff, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's not as fluid as as he probably will be

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<v Speaker 1>as he takes more and more snaps. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna monitor how much they work him. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the back, it's it's I don't I'm not sure how

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<v Speaker 1>much who knows. The only one that knows is LC.

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<v Speaker 1>How much pain is there? There's probably some, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think stiffness is a big issue. And uh, in watching

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<v Speaker 1>them move, it looks that looks to be the case

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I still think though, that this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is a powerful man that can run, block and dry block.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would not think it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>bad concept to let him do that against the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Jets. Let him come off the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>knock people backwards, knock him down, try to get that

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<v Speaker 1>running game going. And you know, honestly, Joe Mixon, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon leads the National Football League and carries and touches,

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<v Speaker 1>so they are It's not like they're okay, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>We're not getting the ball to Jill Mixon. They're giving

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<v Speaker 1>him plenty of opportunities, but players aren't being executed by

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<v Speaker 1>all eleven guys regularly enough for him to put up

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<v Speaker 1>significant yards. He's eleventh in the league in rushing with

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<v Speaker 1>the most carries, you know, in the league. So it

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<v Speaker 1>can all get better, There's no doubt about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to see alc just come, you know, let

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<v Speaker 1>him be a road grader at that right tackle position

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>in the running game. The Bengals addressed the offensive line

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>by signing three proven free agents and drafting Cordell Volson,

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<v Speaker 1>but so far, the results have him been great. I

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<v Speaker 1>ask Lap if he's seen anything that gives him hope

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<v Speaker 1>that the line will eventually be as good as anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think that the interior center and guards, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in this last game, I thought they played pretty decently

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<v Speaker 1>as a group. Now the problems came on the edge,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 1>and Michael Parsons was the biggest problem on the edge.

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>But in the opening he had t. J. Watton Heads

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>high Smith, who both were issues on the edge. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think once that starts getting solidified, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like five playing is one. That's what you have to have.

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Film only got three playing as one or four playing

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<v Speaker 1>as one. It's just it's not going to work. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to me, it's all about unlocking a running game.

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 1>A running game would be a cure all because the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line would start to be the aggressor instead of

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<v Speaker 1>retreating and trying to give ground grudgingly and counteract everything.

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, instead of a counterattack, you're attacking, and it's

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a it's a much different mindset, There's no two ways

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I think if you get them coming

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<v Speaker 1>off the line of scrimmage, you get h you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon into the second and third level of a

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<v Speaker 1>defense punishing people a little bit, then you can mix

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>in play action pass and then everything opens up. It

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>all opens up. So I'd like to see Joe Barrow

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<v Speaker 1>under center, run that football and then play action pass

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>off of it with Joe under center more than they've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing, you know, I think it has to. You

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>have to go back almost to not square one, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go back a little bit and say,

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<v Speaker 1>let's simplify, let's let's not overload anybody with too much mentally,

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>because that's another problem they've had is communication breakdown. You know,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Drew Sample and LC had a communication problem that allowed

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons just to come untouched. You know, I mean Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons number eleven. You you got to have at least one,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two, maybe three on them, not none, not none,

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and that uh you know that miscommunications and issues. So again,

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>what what it is is the Bengals bottom line, have

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to take themselves off their schedule. They have to do

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<v Speaker 1>what they did last week in terms of not turning

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball over and get it off of the opponent.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And they got one, but they could have gotten four.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was an improvement from minus five. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about that. Now you have to curtail the penalty problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and then communicate, recognize, communicate properly. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's all self destruction stuff. And you know, self destruction.

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<v Speaker 1>You're your own worst enemy. You're a bigger enemy than

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>your opponent. You take yourself officer schedule, you get a chance.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are currently tied for last in the league

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<v Speaker 1>in turnover margin at minus four, with the Indianapolis Colts

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>another team still looking for its first win. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>week's opponent. The New York Jets have not gone to

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs in the last eleven years, a stretch that's

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>featured four head coaches and four gms. But over the

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>last two years they've been the league's third biggest spender

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in free agency, and they've had a bunch of high

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>draft picks, including three first rounders this year. Rich Samini,

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<v Speaker 1>who covers the Jets for ESPN, joined Lapping me on

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Wednesday night as we hosted the Bengals Game Plan Show

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>from Patrick Sports Bar and Grill. I do think they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the right track. You know, they have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of young talent on the team, starting with the young

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>quarterback who obviously won't play this week but could be

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>back next week. You saw Garret Wilson against Cleveland just

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>have a huge game with a couple of touchdowns. So

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>they are building something I don't I don't know how

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>long it's going to take. If you ask a Jets fan,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>they feel like this has been happening since, you know,

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the Jurassic era, because it seems like a perpetual rebuild.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>But I do think there are some signs of progress.

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<v Speaker 1>What about what about defensively? Rich, I know, offensively got

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>some weapons. Defensively, they've been built through the draft and

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>also free agency. What's the defensive improvement look like in

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>your eyes? Yeah, they have a lot of younger players

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>as well, including you guys know him well. Saws Gardener

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>from Cincinnati is starting. He's playing pretty well so far

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>as a rookie. He has a really bright future. They're

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>very high on him, and so it's a new look secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>They have three new starters in the secondary, and they

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>have had some miscommunications last couple of first couple of games,

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<v Speaker 1>they've given up a touchdown in each game where they

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<v Speaker 1>had a blown coverage in the secondary, So they're going

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>through some growing pains back there. They have a really

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>good deep defensive line. They go about eight or nine

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>deep on the defensive line. Now the results have not

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>been there. They only have two sacks with the defensive

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>line has only two sacks right now. I know they're

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed with that. That includes Carl Lawson, obviously a familiar

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<v Speaker 1>face to Bengals fans, coming back from a devastating achilles injury.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's back one hundred percent yet. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going through some skipping off some of the rust, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll get better as the season goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this defense has not played up to

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<v Speaker 1>its potential yet, but you know, I still think they're

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<v Speaker 1>growing into it. ESPN's Rich Samini is our guest. The

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>fact that the Jets only have a couple of sacks

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>is well received by the Bengals fans here at Patrick

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Sports Bar and Grills. Since Cincinnati has surrendered thirteen right

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>in the first two weeks. But what about pressure? Sometimes

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the sack stats can be a little deceiving. Teams are

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<v Speaker 1>still pressuring the quarterback hitting the quarterback. Is that deep

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line at least applying a decent amount of pressure?

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<v Speaker 1>As a very good question, Dan, and I wish I

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>could give you like a great answer, like a positive answer,

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But the fact is, no, they have not been generating

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure either. I checked all their analytics

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>stats and the pressure numbers are down as well, and

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>so they just haven't been producing. They openly admit that

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they just haven't been really clicking as a defensive line yet.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I will say that they're well aware of the thirteen

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.319
<v Speaker 1>sacks or Joe Burrow. In fact, I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of them today and Sheldon Rankin's their defensive tackle.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I asked them, you excited to face Joe Burrow? And

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>his eyes kind of lit up, and he goes, absolutely,

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you face a team that's given up that many sacks,

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>of course you want to play them, he goes. So

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of licking our chops right now. So it's

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>an interesting matchup. You got the two sack jets versus

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the thirteen stack allowed Bengals, something's got to give. As

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>they say, Joe Flacco not your typical backup quarterback. I

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 1>mean a guy who was MVP of a Super Bowl

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>winning team and who fifth in yards throwne for over

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>forty two thousand close to forty three thousand yards, fifth

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>among active quarterbacks, turning thirty two touchdown passes, sixth amongst

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>active quarterbacks in the rally that he had in the

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>final two minutes, but three of his five touchdown passes

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<v Speaker 1>have come in the final two minutes of the first

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>two football games. That's that's almost unbelievable. It's almost unheard of.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's another quarterback in the league that

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 1>has more than one. Yeah, it's been a strange two

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>weeks for Joe Blaco. If you if you pulled Jet

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>fans after the opening loss to Baltimore, they wanted him gone.

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean they wanted Mike White back in the lineup.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Bengal fans, of course will not fomly remember Mike White

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>from last year, but they wanted White in. They were

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.399
<v Speaker 1>done with Blaco, they thought he was just washed up.

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>And now those things. Fans have a different tune this

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>week because Joe played great. It was the first Jet

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in twenty years to have three hundred yards passing

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and four touchdowns in a game. Gotta go all the

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>way back to Vinny Testaverty for that. And so you

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>know he had he had a fantastic two minutes. I mean,

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>he just was on fire in the last two minutes

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.879
<v Speaker 1>of Sunday's game and he will you know, obviously he's

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>going to start again this week. And it's funny just

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>how the wins that dipted in New York on Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Flacco rich My final question has to do with c

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>j Uzama finally remembered for his time in Cincinnati. I

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>think Bengals fans were bummed when he wound up signing

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>with the Jets, but understood why he got a big

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>contract from the Jets. I looked at Week one, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a target in a game where Flacco completed thirty

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>nine passes, didn't have that many snaps in comparison to

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Conklin. I know he was out last week with

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<v Speaker 1>a hamstring injury, but if healthy, is he the number

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>two tight end? What is the deal with c j

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Uzama right now with the Jets. Yeah, that's a very

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>interesting case because obviously the big contract I think I

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's like eight or nine million a year, and

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>he had like twenty three snaps in the opener, no targets.

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I talked to him after the game. I mean he

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>seemed a little frustrated by it. Tyler Conklin has been

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>their number one receiver. When they're in eleven personnel with

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>one back and one tight end and three receivers, it's

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Conklin. Conklin has been there receiving tight end, So

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I think they see TJ as really more of a

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>blocker and when they're in twelve personnel. So I don't

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>know if that's the role he envisioned when he signed here,

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>but I think that's the role they have planned for him.

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And I do think he will play this week. He

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>missed last week with the hamstring, but he did practice

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>today limited, and you have to believe he wants to

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>play his former team, so I think things are trending

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>in that direction for him to play. On Sunday. You

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the game against the Jets. Mike White a quarterback.

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember him checking the ball down to run backs

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and them running forever after catch, and Lewis Rumo addressed

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>it today and said, you know, that gave too much

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>space to the running backs. You know, didn't press up

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>close enough on the reception of the football, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a big issue. And I'm looking at Flacco and

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<v Speaker 1>the way he's utilizing his running backs. The running backs

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<v Speaker 1>have twenty catches already tied for most in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>as a position group at running back, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen receiving yards eleventh in the NFL. Joe Flacco, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like an extension of the ground game the

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<v Speaker 1>way he looks to be utilizing those running backs checking

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<v Speaker 1>it down to him, doesn't it Absolutely It's a great point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but Joe has been just throwing a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's got one hundred and three pass attempts

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<v Speaker 1>in two games. And I checked on that. That is

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<v Speaker 1>at the astounding for any quarterback, let alone a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven year old guy. It really doesn't move too well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's the second most for the first two

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<v Speaker 1>games in the Super Bowl era. The only guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>thrown it more in the first two games it was

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<v Speaker 1>Brian's Sight had like one hundred and ten attempts way

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<v Speaker 1>back in the early eighties, and so I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets really want to lower that. Obviously, they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to put Flacco in harm's way that many times a game,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he does throw to the back. He likes

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<v Speaker 1>to spread it around. Look, he's a smart quarterback. He's

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<v Speaker 1>won a Super Bowl and he knows where to go

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<v Speaker 1>with the football. Now, did he get it out all

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<v Speaker 1>the time? No? Can he escape a pass rush No,

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<v Speaker 1>So if the Bengals get pressure on him, they're liable

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<v Speaker 1>to attack him or force him into a bad decision.

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<v Speaker 1>But he knows when he has time. He's still an

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<v Speaker 1>effective quarterback. Joe Flacco started twenty games against the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>when he was still in Baltimore. The Bengals went eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and nine in those games, and Flacco had a passer

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<v Speaker 1>rating in the low seventies. Sunday's game kicks off at

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<v Speaker 1>one o'clock. Our pregame coverage will begin at eleven thirty am.

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