WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Gorgo

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 3>on today's episode of Weird House Cinema, we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be talking about the nineteen sixty one British kaiju

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<v Speaker 3>movie Gorgo, which I just saw for the first time

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks ago when my friend Ben brought

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<v Speaker 3>it over for a movie night. So one of the

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<v Speaker 3>first things you might be thinking is did I hear

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<v Speaker 3>the first line of the description, right? Is this a

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<v Speaker 3>British giant monster movie? Yes? You did. Why is that

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<v Speaker 3>concept inherently so funny? I don't really know, but to me,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly it is. And I wonder if you have the

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<v Speaker 3>same thought, Rob, So like I was interrogating this further. So,

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<v Speaker 3>Japanese giant monster movie could be funny in execution, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not necessarily funny in principle, Like the original Godzilla

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<v Speaker 3>is not funny at all. It's a very dark, grim serious,

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<v Speaker 3>great movie. An American giant monster movie, I'd say, same

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<v Speaker 3>thing could be funny in execution, not necessarily funny in principle,

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<v Speaker 3>but a British giant monster movie where a huge rat

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<v Speaker 3>creature attacks London is just fundamentally hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm not sure quite what it is, because you

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<v Speaker 2>do find giant monster kaiju movies in various film cultures,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't feel inherently out of place in other

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<v Speaker 2>film traditions. But yeah, there's something about the British setting

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<v Speaker 2>and all the British actors. I don't know it. It

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<v Speaker 2>makes it unique, and it does maybe make it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit hilarious unintentionally.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>things about this movie that are beautifully executed. It has

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<v Speaker 3>a similar problem that a lot of giant monster movies have,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that there's a lot of city stomping at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, just relentless smashing of buildings and such. It

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<v Speaker 3>goes on for a long time. That's not unique to Gorgo.

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<v Speaker 3>But the city smashing looks fantastic, It looks great. They've

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<v Speaker 3>got really good models. We get to see a creature

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<v Speaker 3>smashing well known landmarks throughout London, you know, really laying

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<v Speaker 3>into Big Ben and the Tower Bridge and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is really pleasurable to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's the basic formula in play here.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go into Gorgo expecting something drastically different from any

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<v Speaker 2>other giant monster movie that you've seen, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>well executed. There are a lot of solid talents that

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<v Speaker 2>were involved in making this film, and it does find

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<v Speaker 2>some places to do things that, if not entirely unique,

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<v Speaker 2>at least they come up with an interesting palette with

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<v Speaker 2>which to paint it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would agree, there are some other things that

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<v Speaker 3>work kind of well. I would say in the first

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<v Speaker 3>act there's an interesting sort of full corror vibe that

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<v Speaker 3>is unexpected for a movie of this type. We can

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<v Speaker 3>talk more about that when we into the plot, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should start off by exploring the question

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<v Speaker 3>of what is Gorgo? Right? So, Godzilla is a giant

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<v Speaker 3>bipedal reptile or lizard of some kind with atomic radiation

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<v Speaker 3>breath who emerges from under the ocean. Gamera is a

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<v Speaker 3>giant fire breathing turtle from the Arctic that can fly.

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<v Speaker 3>King Kong is a giant prehistoric ape from Skull Island.

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<v Speaker 3>What is Gorgo? I would describe Gorgo as a gigantic,

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<v Speaker 3>toothy monster with a similar bipedal posture to Godzilla, who

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<v Speaker 3>looks like a cross between a frilly eared lizard and

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<v Speaker 3>a satanic rat with red glowing eyes. He comes out

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<v Speaker 3>of the sea off the coast of an Irish island,

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<v Speaker 3>and he is thought to be some kind of ancient god,

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<v Speaker 3>at least at first.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would also add that he has pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>has the body of a rock'm sockem robot, not in

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<v Speaker 2>the sense that it's metallic, but in the basic posture

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<v Speaker 2>and proportions. It looks like he's ready to throw some punches,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess ultimately does throw some punches at major

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<v Speaker 2>London landmarks.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way you can kind of see him rotating

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<v Speaker 3>his torso as he reaches with his arms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, if there I had plenty of scenes later

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<v Speaker 2>in the film to stare at this monster and try

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<v Speaker 2>and cope with some headcanon for everything I'm seeing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I will say the teeth. The more I looked at them,

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<v Speaker 2>the more I started thinking, well, these are like filter

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<v Speaker 2>feeding teeth, Like this is an aquatic organism that's had

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<v Speaker 2>millions and millions of years to sort of evolve. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a filter feeder. Maybe that's what those teeth are

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<v Speaker 2>all about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good point, So you might think giant toothy

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<v Speaker 3>rat lizard creature, and think a smaller number of large,

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<v Speaker 3>pointy teeth. You know, maybe each pointy tooth is like

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<v Speaker 3>the size of a sharpened boulder. But no, instead it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of tiny pointy teeth. It's more like a

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<v Speaker 3>mouthful of swords. And so I think with that in mind,

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<v Speaker 3>you could also look at that as like the brick

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<v Speaker 3>souls or the beleen of a filter feeder. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>good connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob, thank you. But you know this is not the

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<v Speaker 2>only the only connection between this monster and in the

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<v Speaker 2>world of actual terrestrial biology, because the creature's name, Gorgo

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<v Speaker 2>is allegedly based on an actual dinosaur, the Gorgosaurus.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they don't say that in the movie. In the

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<v Speaker 3>movie they later explained that it. Well, first, when we

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<v Speaker 3>learned the name Gorgo, they literally say, we don't know

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<v Speaker 3>why he's called that. But then the the scheming circus

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<v Speaker 3>operator who is exploiting Gorgo for cash, he explains that

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<v Speaker 3>he named the creature Gorgo after the gorgon Medusa. So

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<v Speaker 3>there is a common connective thread that we could get into.

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<v Speaker 3>But they don't say in the movie that it's named

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<v Speaker 3>after this dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this might have been something that was more

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<v Speaker 2>of a stronger connection at some earlier phase of production.

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<v Speaker 2>It could also be something that's been kind of added

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<v Speaker 2>after the fact. But the truth is there is a gorgosaurus.

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<v Speaker 2>The gorgosaurus was not named after this movie. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the It literally means fierce lizard. This creature lived during

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<v Speaker 2>the Late Cretaceous period eighty to seventy three million years

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<v Speaker 2>ago in parts of what is now the United States

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<v Speaker 2>and Canada, So you know, I guess its range wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually have extended over to the British Isles. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a large therapod and we have at least

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<v Speaker 2>twelve complete or near complete skulls and various partial skeletons

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<v Speaker 2>to go off of. It was a tyrannosaur, not as

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<v Speaker 2>big as a t rex, but still quite impressive at

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<v Speaker 2>eight to nine meters or twenty six to thirty feet

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<v Speaker 2>in length. It was first described and named by Canadian

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<v Speaker 2>paleontologist Lawrence Lamb that's not spelled like my name is

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<v Speaker 2>Lambe in nineteen fourteen, and the Gorgo part of the

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<v Speaker 2>name fierce is in fact related to the ancient Greek

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<v Speaker 2>word gorgos, which means grim. Or dreadful reflected in the

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<v Speaker 2>naming of the mythical gorgons.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so at the very least, the real gorgosaurus and

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<v Speaker 3>the gorgo of the movie get their name from the

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<v Speaker 3>same place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And you know, if this strikes a chord with

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<v Speaker 2>anyone out there, you're like, where have I heard about

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<v Speaker 2>gorgosaurus recently? Well, the gorgosaars actually just made the news

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<v Speaker 2>last month. This was reported about in the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times under their Ancient Meat Reporting desk. This concerns a

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five million year old Gorgosaurus fossil. It was discovered

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<v Speaker 2>with fossilized stomach contents. This was the first, apparently for

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<v Speaker 2>a tyrannosaur. It was a juvenile and the stomach contents

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<v Speaker 2>were the hind limbs of two small feathered dinosaurs. According

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<v Speaker 2>to Michael Greshkoh in his New York Times article covering

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<v Speaker 2>a study authored by Francois Therein, the curator of Dinosaur

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<v Speaker 2>paleo Ecology at the Royal Tyreel Museum in Alberta, they

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<v Speaker 2>said that if it had grown to adulthood, it would

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<v Speaker 2>have liked we moved on to much bigger prey. But

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<v Speaker 2>as a smaller tritter, it was having to eat the

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<v Speaker 2>legs of various bird creatures. So at any rate, gorgosar

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<v Speaker 2>is still making the headlines at least, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as stories about ancient meat and an ancient chicken

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<v Speaker 2>legs ghosts.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you included an illustration from the New York Times article.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an artist's impression of what the living juvenile gorgosaurus

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<v Speaker 3>would have looked like. And this is a much more

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<v Speaker 3>spindly creature than the gorgo of the film, which is

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<v Speaker 3>which is very dense and bulky, and apart from its

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<v Speaker 3>rat like head, it's got the more classic sort of

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<v Speaker 3>storybook illustration of the tyrannosaur that's very sort of bottom

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<v Speaker 3>heavy and has like big legs and lower body parts.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, But before you gorgo fans look up this

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<v Speaker 2>article and say this is not accurate, let me suggest

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<v Speaker 2>that the gorgo that we see in this movie has

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<v Speaker 2>again evolved for life in an aquatic setting over millions

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<v Speaker 2>of years. So he has kind of like that whale

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<v Speaker 2>body going on. Ah, So, if we're being generous, we

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<v Speaker 2>might say, well it kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yes, the gorgo's body has evolved for insulation purposes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a little science there, but believe me, the

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<v Speaker 2>science is not necessary for your appreciation and understanding of

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<v Speaker 2>this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so on. We've talked a little bit before on

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast when we've done other Kaiju or giant monster

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<v Speaker 3>movies about the various subgenres that these movies fall into,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought it might make sense to try to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out where Gorgo fits into that subgenre map. So

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<v Speaker 3>a few of the main types of giant monster movies

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<v Speaker 3>are I would say, first of all, Kaiju the destroyer.

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<v Speaker 3>An example of this would be the original Godzilla. A

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<v Speaker 3>giant beast arrives unexpectedly and brings ruined to humankind, and

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<v Speaker 3>the monster must somehow be defeated or driven away. Second

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<v Speaker 3>that category, I would call Kaiju the defender. Good examples

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<v Speaker 3>here would be the later sequels involving almost any of

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<v Speaker 3>the popular Kaiju monsters, monsters like Godzilla and GAMMERA. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a variation that arises in which the giant monster

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<v Speaker 3>that was once the destroyer must now defend us from

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<v Speaker 3>a more horrible threat, usually either space aliens or a

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<v Speaker 3>new giant monster that is meaner and more spiny. And

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue that the emergence of Kaiju the Defender

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<v Speaker 3>as a subgenre of giant monster movies is part of

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<v Speaker 3>a broader trend that's not just in giant monster movies.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's this trend where if you have a series

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<v Speaker 3>of movies all about the same focal character, that character

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<v Speaker 3>will almost always become more friendly and approachable over time,

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<v Speaker 3>even if they began as a villain or an anti hero.

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<v Speaker 3>So Gamera goes from being a terrifying pyro turtle on

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<v Speaker 3>a rampage to the friend of all children. You can

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<v Speaker 3>look to any Vin Diesel movie series for examples of this.

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<v Speaker 3>The Vin Diesel character will always become nicer as it

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<v Speaker 3>goes on. Even Freddy Krueger goes from being in the

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<v Speaker 3>first Nightmare on elm Street movie this grimy, disgusting child

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<v Speaker 3>murderer too later on more just kind of like a

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<v Speaker 3>lethal puck in a sweater, Like he does still kill people,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's more kind of a prankster and a jokester.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it becomes more of like a pee wee herman

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a character as opposed to just a nightmare

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<v Speaker 2>monster from your mind, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So in the later sequels, in these movies you

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<v Speaker 3>often get Kaiju the defender. Next, I would say is

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<v Speaker 3>the Pity the Kaiju movie. Great example here is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the original King Kong. Like a dangerous but in

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<v Speaker 3>many ways admirable and noble monster is kidnapped or imprisoned

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<v Speaker 3>or otherwise exploited by greedy humans, and in the end

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<v Speaker 3>you have emotional sympathy for the creature in the way

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<v Speaker 3>that it has been mistreated by humankind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and obviously there are numerous sub classifications that we

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<v Speaker 2>could play out here, but well, one that comes to

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<v Speaker 2>mind as well as essentially the ware Kaiju option. So

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<v Speaker 2>not an amazing colossal situation where just a human gets

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<v Speaker 2>big and then does big stuff, but a situation where

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<v Speaker 2>a protagonist transforms into a giant monster that is distinct

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<v Speaker 2>from just a giant human. The twenty sixteen film Colossal

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<v Speaker 2>starring Anne Hathaway comes to mind that has a fun

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<v Speaker 2>twist on this concept. And there's also nineteen sixty five's

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<v Speaker 2>Frankenstein versus Beragon that involves something like this as well,

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<v Speaker 2>with a small boy transforming into a giant Frankenstein's monster.

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<v Speaker 3>MM. I don't think I've seen either of those. I

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<v Speaker 3>certainly haven't seen the one with Anne Hathaway. Is Anne

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<v Speaker 3>Hathway the one who transforms into a giant monster?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes she is, or it's a spoilers If you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen this, just skip like you know, a few minutes ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>But the basic concept, if memory serves, is that she

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<v Speaker 2>has a spells where she becomes the monster or controls

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<v Speaker 2>the monster with her impulses, but is not conscious of

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<v Speaker 2>the fact. So it's not a physical transformation. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's something else, it's it's it's a very fun film.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's it's a comedy, but it has a

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<v Speaker 2>giant monster and it has a number of wonderful actors

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<v Speaker 2>in it, well worth checking out.

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<v Speaker 3>That does sound interesting. I'll have to look that up.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, So where does Gorgo fit into the subgenres?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say Gorgo has elements of the first Kausu

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<v Speaker 3>the Destroyer, and elements of the third the Pity the

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<v Speaker 3>Monster film, less of the second, which makes sense because

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<v Speaker 3>this is the first Gorgo movie. This is not like

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<v Speaker 3>a later sequel, and usually they don't become defenders of

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<v Speaker 3>people or friend to all children until later on, so

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<v Speaker 3>it has elements of both I would say, especially in

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<v Speaker 3>the first act, the monster really does seem scary and

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<v Speaker 3>seem like a threat. But as as the film goes on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you really come to sympathize with the monster spoiler monsters

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<v Speaker 3>over the I don't know, like gloating egotistical naval commanders

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<v Speaker 3>who think that launching, you know, some more bombs at

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<v Speaker 3>them will finally solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, It's ultimately going to be a draw, and

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<v Speaker 2>you realize, well, we can't really oppose Gorgo anymore, we

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<v Speaker 2>must form an alliance with Gorgo. Clearly, if they'd made

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<v Speaker 2>more Gorgo movies, it would have been Gorgo protecting the

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<v Speaker 2>British Isles from some other menace.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. But Rob, you brought to my attention the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that there was a Gorgo comic series that seems to

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<v Speaker 3>have happened after the movie. So, if I understand correctly,

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<v Speaker 3>the character was created for the film, but then there

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<v Speaker 3>were comics made in the wake of that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't read these comics, but just judging by looking at

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<v Speaker 3>some of the covers online, Gorgo does appear to go

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<v Speaker 3>through the exact same like heel to face turn we

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<v Speaker 3>see in these other monsters. Because in the first issue,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just yeah, like, you know, looming over London opposing

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of threat. But by the last issue it

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<v Speaker 3>looks like he's the only thing that can save the

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<v Speaker 3>world from communism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, these covers are definitely worth looking up. I

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<v Speaker 2>was surprised because I think I'd run across the idea

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<v Speaker 2>before that there was some sort of a comic book adaptation,

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<v Speaker 2>and that alone is not surprising. I was thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a one off, you know, they did a comic

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<v Speaker 2>book adaptation of the movie. But no, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole run with Gorgo fighting various threats, including communism

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<v Speaker 2>and giant squidsed it, you know, it's that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>big furry monsters with horns on their head, cyclopses, you

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<v Speaker 2>name it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So for a brief survey, issue number one, Rob

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<v Speaker 3>I've added these images to the outline so we can

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<v Speaker 3>comment on them as we look. Issue number one is

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<v Speaker 3>just Gorgo standing. There's London in the background because he

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<v Speaker 3>big ben. You see the tower and the clock, and

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<v Speaker 3>then some guys on the ground with flame throwers blasting

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<v Speaker 3>up at Gorgo's hands, and Gorgo just looks done. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got a kind of like grinning through the pain look

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<v Speaker 3>on his face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I assume this one is basically an

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<v Speaker 2>adaptation of the picture, or you know, an abbreviation of

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<v Speaker 2>it anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But then by issue number three, we see a

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<v Speaker 3>cover that is some kind of mad scientist trying to

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<v Speaker 3>harness Gorgo's power. Gorgo looks different now by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind he's got a different shape, and he's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of bubbly all over in a lighter shade of like

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<v Speaker 3>yellow green. But he's standing there and he's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>reeling back. Gorgo looks like it's a more defensive posture,

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<v Speaker 3>and this mad scientist is poking at him with this

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<v Speaker 3>shock ray, and the mad scientist is saying, I can

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<v Speaker 3>control you. With you at my command, I will rule

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<v Speaker 3>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Like, clearly, Gorgo is a force of nature that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be potentially exploited by bad actors in

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<v Speaker 2>the human realm, and therefore that the real villains are

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<v Speaker 2>the mad scientists.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. So that's three. By issue number five we've

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<v Speaker 3>got the tide Gorgo clashes with the sea beast, where

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<v Speaker 3>he's just it's an it's a Kaiju meet slam. Now

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<v Speaker 3>he's just wrestling with another giant monster. This looks like

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of octopus inspired type creature, though. I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say the illustration is funny because it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>they're about to kiss. Doesn't it like Gorgo's even sort

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<v Speaker 3>of holding the back of the octopus's head like he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna dip him for a kiss.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It says Gorgo clashes with the Sea Beast and the

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<v Speaker 2>Unforgettable the day Manhattan died, which raises all sorts of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is Gorgo going over to Manhattan? Is like, is

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<v Speaker 2>there like a Gorgo sharing program or treaty between the

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<v Speaker 2>UK and the United States At this point, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you know, they do invoke NATO later in the

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<v Speaker 3>uh oh it's in the movie. Yeah, And then it

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<v Speaker 3>goes on. So, like I included issue number ten, there's

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<v Speaker 3>more fighting that looks kind of like kissing. This is

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<v Speaker 3>where Gorgo is fighting the Venusian Terror. It says they

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<v Speaker 3>came from an alien world bent on destroying Earth and

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<v Speaker 3>it's an inhabitants. Could even the mighty Gorgo stop them?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't miss the Venusian Terror? What is the Venusian Terror? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you see a couple of flying saucers in the background

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<v Speaker 3>that almost kind of look like they have eyes, like

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<v Speaker 3>they're kind of placid, smiley faces. But then the Venusian

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<v Speaker 3>Monster is a cyclops being with a long yellow snake tongue,

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<v Speaker 3>one big eye, and one big horn on the top

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<v Speaker 3>of his head.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, and he's licking Gorgo in the face. It really

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<v Speaker 2>seems like maybe this is a big misunderstanding. The Venusian

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<v Speaker 2>Tear doesn't really want to hurt anyone. He just wants

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<v Speaker 2>a little snuggling, a little little face licking.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. Yeah, he is cute. And then, like we said, finally,

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<v Speaker 3>by like the end of the series, we've got Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>in one of them. I don't know what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fighting a giant guy, just like a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>kind of looks like Dracula, but he's Gorgo sized. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they must have blown him up with mad science somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fighting Gorgo. And then also Gorgo is fighting somebody

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<v Speaker 3>called General Thung, and we see General Thung saying that

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<v Speaker 3>with uh together, we will destroy all imperialistic nations. UH

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<v Speaker 3>and Gorgo, I guess, is gonna gonna prevent that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Gorgo's politics are fully explored in this this particular issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that comes later. This movie is about then

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<v Speaker 2>this would be my my elevator pitch. It's the British

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<v Speaker 2>Isles versus giant monster, that is exactly it. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go ahead and have that trailer audio so everyone

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<v Speaker 2>can hear some of the destruction that's coming their way.

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<v Speaker 5>Foh, a picture of our time? How's ever unleashed? Shut

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<v Speaker 5>spectacle of such scope? But realism? How's up from the

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<v Speaker 5>depths of prehistoric mystery? Rages gorgo? The headlines of the

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<v Speaker 5>world plays the fabulous star, this monster from another age

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<v Speaker 5>can pull it drops up the mass subutionan cavern by

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<v Speaker 5>unprecedented volcanic action, and the headlines screamed the story of

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<v Speaker 5>the reckless skin divers who capture the monster and put

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<v Speaker 5>it on exhibition.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam hop their nets. You're doing they take it easy.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't do. Then go back to see way belongs?

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<v Speaker 4>Why maybe to see they're silly skins for you? Hoorray Gorgo.

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<v Speaker 5>But the headlines do not record the story of the

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<v Speaker 5>little boy who had a curious sympathy and understanding for

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<v Speaker 5>the fantastic creature. What strange secret. Does he know that

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<v Speaker 5>scientists only suspect you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to say, there may be a fully grown one

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<v Speaker 1>of these things around somewhere, Hobbig.

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<v Speaker 4>Would a full grown one be an approximate guess? The infant.

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<v Speaker 5>The adult that'll make it eighty two hundred feet tall,

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<v Speaker 5>wreaking terrible nance against the civilization that has captured its offspring,

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<v Speaker 5>ring over the cities of the world, has millions flee.

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<v Speaker 5>It's awesome, terry. Nothing can summit defying the porce of

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<v Speaker 5>the army, the might of the navy.

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<v Speaker 4>Man of Momotari, ready to or from Father file Man, even.

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<v Speaker 5>The fury of the jets, and rising crescendial sights never

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<v Speaker 5>before beheld by human eyes, and adventures never before experienced

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<v Speaker 5>by any man or woman.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, if you want to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>watch gorgo before proceeding with this episode. It is widely

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<v Speaker 2>available in physical and digital formats and on multiple streaming platforms.

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<v Speaker 2>You can even grab it on Blu Ray and again.

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<v Speaker 2>The film was also covered by Mystery Science Theater three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand in a nineteen ninety eight episode, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's available in different formats as well. All Right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the people behind this film, starting at the

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<v Speaker 2>top with the director, Eugene Lourie born nineteen oh three

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<v Speaker 2>died nineteen ninety one, Russian born French art director and

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately director. His production design work goes back to the

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen thirties, but his first directorial credit was nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three's The Beast from twenty thousand fathoms. This one,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, has a an X ray Harry Housen lizard

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<v Speaker 2>in it, giant lizard monster the terrorizes the city and

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<v Speaker 2>in one memorable scene, eats a cop.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this one attacking New York or somewhere else?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's New York. This is what I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen in full, but I've certainly seen the monster clips.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime you see Harry Howsen retrospective, you're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>clips from this film for sure. And this movie was

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<v Speaker 2>a hit. Seems to have cemented Laurie as a giant

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<v Speaker 2>monster director, and he followed this up with nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 2>eight's The Colossus of New York. This is about a

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<v Speaker 2>giant robot body that has a dead boy's brain in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I included a still for you here. Joe ofv said robot.

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<v Speaker 3>I have considered suggesting this for the show before. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we may come around to it one day, because

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<v Speaker 3>from what I understand, it's a similar concept to Tammy

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<v Speaker 3>and the t Rex, except instead of a t rex body,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a giant sort of colossus being.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's also nineteen fifty nine's The Giant Behemoth. This

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<v Speaker 2>has another giant dinosaur in it, less memorable, not a

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<v Speaker 2>rat Harry House in Creation. And then he also did

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<v Speaker 2>an episode of the nineteen fifty nine TV series World

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<v Speaker 2>of Giants. This was an incredible Shrinking Man inspired show.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't find details on the specific episode he did

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<v Speaker 2>and what kind of giant aka normal sized insect or

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<v Speaker 2>what have you might have been featured in that episode. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Weldon and his Psychotronic Movie Guides points out that

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<v Speaker 2>the success of nineteen fifty threes Beast was actually an

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration on fifty four's Godzilla, and I've read elsewhere that

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<v Speaker 2>Godzilla was also inspired by the commercial success of a

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty two re release of nineteen thirty three's King Kong.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can think of those two films as two

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<v Speaker 2>primary predecessors to Godzilla, and therefore the vast world of

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<v Speaker 2>Kaiju that we have before us. So that's the director.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of writers attached to this. There's Robert L.

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Richards who of nineteen oh nine through nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 2>American writer of mostly westerns. Another one of these individuals

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<v Speaker 2>who lost their Hollywood career due to the blacklist during

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<v Speaker 2>this time period. Daniel James as the other writer of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eleven through nineteen eighty eight, also blacklisted from Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>for his political views. He worked as an uncredited writer

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<v Speaker 2>on the Beast from twenty thousand Fathoms as well as

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<v Speaker 2>The Giant Behemoth served as Early in his career, he

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<v Speaker 2>had served as assistant director on the nineteen forty Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>Chaplin movie The Great Dictator. All right, let's get into

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<v Speaker 2>the cast. The towering lead man in this is Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Travers playing the character Joe Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>There's really there are really sort of two leads in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie. There's Sam and Joe the characters. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one is Bill Travers and the other is William Sylvester.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was thinking them as Bill trav and Bill sill.

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<v Speaker 2>Well obviously for the lead. And I mean in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of billing and in terms of height and maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>all they decided on it. Big Bill Travers is your

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>lead here. He lived nineteen twenty two through nineteen ninety four. Yeah,

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I looked it up. I was like, how tall was

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>this guy? Apparently six six, so that's that's that's a

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>big guy by most standards, and it's clear in the film,

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is this guy's he's almost as tall

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 2>as Gorgo basically. But anyway, British leading man and animal

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.719
<v Speaker 2>rights activists who mostly worked in mainstream dramas, with this

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<v Speaker 2>being I believe his only sci fi or horror film.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything else is more, you know, traditional real world sort

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 2>of stuff. His most famous and ultimately most influential film

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.679
<v Speaker 2>was nineteen sixty six Is Born Free. This was an

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 2>adaptation of George and Joy Adamson's book about their experiences

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 2>raising a lion cub in Kenya, and it led to

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a kind of spiritual follow up with the same stars

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 2>called Ring of Bright Water in nineteen sixty nine. Bill

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Travers's wife, Virginia mckinnab born nineteen thirty one, was was

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>his co star in both of those pictures, and their

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>experience with the with the films, especially the first one,

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Born Free this open apparently opened up their eyes to

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 2>various challenges concerning captive wild animals in the world, and

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 2>they created the Born Free Foundation in nineteen eighty four,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>which is still very active. It works to quote ensure

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>that all wild animals, whether living in captivity or in

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 2>the wild, are treated with compassion and respect and are

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 2>able to live their lives according to their needs. And

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>you can learn more about that organization at Bornfree dot

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<v Speaker 2>org dot UK.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting given the themes of Gorgo. Yeah, correct me

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 3>if I'm wrong. I don't think I heard you mentioned

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Gorgo as a cited inspiration for this activism, But Gorgo

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 3>also has themes of animal rights and captivity.

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe it was there in the background, and

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe Gorgo is what pushed it over the edge, but no,

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>they never mentioned Gorgo with It's not the Gorgo Foundation,

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:54.880
<v Speaker 2>it's the Born Free Foundation.

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I say this not to tarnish his acting or his

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 3>activism by soiation, but there's kind of an elephant in

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 3>the room with this guy, which I know of being

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 3>brought up multiple times independently when talking about this movie

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 3>with people, which is that in some shots he kind

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 3>of looks like Steven Sagall here it helps that he's tall.

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes at like certain angles, he makes a kind of

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Stephen Sagall face. And there's also a kind of energy

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 3>that I don't know if this exactly makes sense, rob

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 3>but like the fact that he doesn't take off his

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 3>captain's hat even when they come on board land that

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of has a sigall thing too.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, fair enough, fair enough. Now you mentioned

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>that William Sylvester plays the other main character in the

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>character Sam Slade, And this is a guy that I

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people will recognize he was. He

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>lived nineteen twenty two through nineteen ninety five. His most

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>recognizable role is that of doctor Haywood R. Floyd in

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Stanley Cooper It's nineteen sixty eight masterpiece two thousand and one,

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>a Space Odyssey.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 3>So he is the character in two thousand and one

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 3>who we see him when we first transition from the

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 3>prologue into the future. He's like taking a shuttle to

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>the moon and then arrives there to investigate the anomaly

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 3>found buried on the moon. Is that right?

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, So it's you see him early in the film,

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and he is I mean not too early, because early

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>enough you're only seeing hominids and tapers and so forth.

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, one of the first modern humans you encounter.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know about anyone else, but like watching

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>this film and recognizing him from two thousand and one,

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>it kind of added a little extra class to this picture,

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, like like two thousand and one can't help

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>but where it we could rub off on any other picture.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 2>You see some of the various actors from that film.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Yet though, of course Gorgo did come first, so you

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 3>could look at it as Bill silll bringing that class

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 3>of Gorgo into the production of two thousand and one.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Certainly, you certainly could, but you know, it wasn't all

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>like generational, all time best sci fi films for William Sylvester.

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Other folks might recognize him from the TV series Gemini

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Man and the TV movie from seventy six as well

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>writing with Death. This was pieced together from I think

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 2>like a couple of episodes of Gemini Man and was

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 2>featured on Mystery Science Theater three thousand.

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I have vague memories of that one.

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 2>His other credits include nineteen sixty four's Devil Doll, sixty

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 2>five's Devils of Darkness, and he also pops up in

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy eights Heaven Can Wait.

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's only so much that is demanded of

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 3>the actors in Gorgo, But I think I would say

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 3>William Sylvester stands out in this movie as doing maybe

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 3>the most with his role of anyone.

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he gets the smoke a lot. Let just

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>smoke a lot.

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 3>He's the one who we first see really seeming to

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 3>feel bad about what's happening to Gorgo, apart from a

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 3>child actor who we'll talk about in a bit.

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>All right. A couple other characters of note. We have

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Professor Hendrix, played by Joseph o'connorteen ten through two thousand

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>and one, Irish actor and playwright with extensive Shakespearean stage credits.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.239
<v Speaker 2>His films include nineteen sixty four's The Gorgon, so it's

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 2>in both Gorgo and The Gorgon. This is the Terence

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Fisher Hammer film, starring both Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee.

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>He was in nineteen sixty nine's And of the Thousand Days,

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 2>ninety eight's Elizabeth, nineteen ninety nine's The Messenger And This

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>is pretty cool too. He served as the narrator in

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>the voice of the ERSKKX in nineteen eighty two's The

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:30.959
<v Speaker 2>Dark Crystal. Oh wow, yeah, So that voice you hear

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 2>at the end, that's Joseph O'Connor.

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I had no idea.

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, So that's Professor Hendrix. And then there's this

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>character Dorkin.

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh what a skiz?

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Dorkan is played by Martin Benson, who lived nineteen

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 2>eighteen through twenty ten. English character actor whose credits include

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty six Is the King and I sixty three's Cleopatra,

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>sixty four is a Shot in the Dark, sixty nine's Goldfinger.

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>He plays one of the mobsters that the villain in

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>that is involved in his to radiate a bunch of gold.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 3>I believe he is the guy who objects to Goldfingers

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 3>plan and they're like, oh, oh, you know, that's fine,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to be part of this. So they

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 3>go put him in a car, and then they put

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 3>the car in a trash compactor.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Classic. All right, then you got seventy six is the Omen,

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>seventy sevens Jesus of Nazareth in nineteen ninety nine's Angela's Ashes.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't think he was ever. He was

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a very much a character actor, often like a little

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>further down in the listings, but had major roles in

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>a number of big pictures.

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Dorkin is the greedy, unscrupulous circus proprietor in this film

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 3>who exploits Gorgo for profit, and I think Benson does

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 3>a great job with this role. He's like he's out

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Carnival barking about how you know, oh, we the Irish

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 3>government may soon put a stop to what we're doing

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 3>to Gorgo, so come and get your tickets now while

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 3>there's still a chance.

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 2>There's a window for Gorgo exploitation. Yeah, all right. I'm

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>not going to go into a lot of d tail here,

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>but it is worth noting that in small uncredited roles

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>we also have future UFO lead Ed Bishop who lived

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty two through two thousand and five. And then we

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>also have Nigel Green, John Wood, Fred Wood. All three

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>would later go would go on to be bigger name

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>actors there and there. I wasn't able to spot most

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>of them. I think I spotted one or both of

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 2>the Woods. And then as far as the monsters go,

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>there's a stunt man by the name of Dave Wilding

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>inside the monster suit. I couldn't find out much about him,

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 2>but I do like to acknowledge the person wearing the

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>monster suit whenever possible. All right, now, behind the scenes,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you actually have a number of notable names here. We'll

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 2>try not to spend too much time on him here.

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 2>But the cinematographer for this was Freddie Young, who lived

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>nineteen oh two through nineteen ninety eight, British cinematographer best

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>known for his Oscar winning work on David Lean's films

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Lawrence of Arabia from sixty two, Doctor Shivago from sixty five,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 2>and Ryan's Daughter from nineteen seventy. This is right before

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Lawrence of Arabia.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 2>He also worked on sixty seven's You Only Lived Twice,

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 2>seventy one's Nicholas and Alexandra, and nineteen seventy two's The

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Asphcs Wow.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Freddy got around. Yeah, big name, big name. Yeah.

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Another one, Elliott Scott was the art director on this

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 2>so of nineteen fifteen through nineteen ninety three. He'd worked

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>previously on nineteen fifty eight's Tom Thumb, which was a

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of a big special effects feature of the time period.

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I believe he went on to work as art director

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.240
<v Speaker 2>on such films as sixty four's Children of the Damned,

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies No Blade of Grass, and he served as

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 2>production designer on a ton of big films nineteen eighties

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 2>The Water in the Woods, eighty one's Dragon Slayer, eighty

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 2>three's The Pirates of Penzance, eighty four's Indiana Jones, and

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>The Temple of Doom eighty six is Labyrinth eighty eights,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>who framed Roger Rabbit and nineteen eighty nine's Indiana Jones

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>in the Last Crusade, Oh Jam.

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 3>A lot of high profile work. Wow.

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Then we have Tom Howard Special Photographic Effects, lived

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ten through nineteen eighty five. It was a visual

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 2>effects expert who worked on a number of award winning

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and legendary special effects film including Tom Thumb, nineteen sixty

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 2>three's The Haunting and nineteen sixty eight two thousand and

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>one A Space Odyssey. As we'll discuss, there are a

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of monster suit effects in this, a lot of

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 2>like miniature set effects, but there's also a fair amount

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:25.240
<v Speaker 2>of chroma key replacement stuff, you know, like blue green

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>screen type of effects. I'm thinking especially early on in

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 2>the film when you know, however, two main characters out

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 2>on the water about to go scuba diving, Like clearly

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 2>they did some combination of on location and sat with

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 2>the ocean thrown in the background. And then finally the

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>score is by and I may not be pronouncing this correctly.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Angelo Francisco Lavagnino, who lived nineteen oh nine through nineteen

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven, an Italian composer whose other scores include nineteen

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>fifty five Lost Continent and a whole slew of Spaghetti

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Westerns and Sword and Sandal epic. His score for Lost

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Continent was a winner at the Cannes Film Festival. So

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a it's a fine, sweeping orchestral score here.

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 2>It fits the grandeur that is Gorgo. But that's about

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 2>all I can say for it.

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, sometimes it's funny because clearly something it's trying

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>to do, especially at the beginning, is blend this thundering,

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, suite of monster horns with the lilting Irish

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 3>folk melodies. And you know, I'd say it does that

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 3>fairly successfully. Though it's a kind of amusing thing to hear.

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 3>So I guess we're transitioning to the plot now. And

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 3>the movie opens with that score. That that combines like

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the the dramatic monster music with the

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Irish sounding folk melody, and that is playing while we

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 3>see the titles and the type is there are such

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 3>like block letters in the title here. I love the

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 3>heaviness of it, like you can imagine the teams that

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 3>built the Pyramids putting together the Gorgo title.

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, when they drop the title Gorgo here,

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 2>it is like a thousand feet tall. It's like a

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 2>biblical epic font. It looks like it should be comically

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Monty Python style crushing something.

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 3>And then.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 2>This alone was amazing. But then they kept using it

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>like smaller of course, but they kept using it for

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the credits, and I loved.

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 3>It strong choice. So the action begins with a steamship

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 3>out on the sea and we see the men of

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 3>the crew all looking out over the sea with concern.

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Something is troubling them. And then we see what they're

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 3>looking at. Far out in the distance, there is a

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 3>patch of ocean that appears to be at a rolling boil.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 3>It is this giant, white, frothy mass swirling around ominously,

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 3>and soon a diver in scuba gear comes up to

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 3>the ladder on the side of the ship. From the

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 3>water and from the diver, we learn that these are

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 3>salvage operators, and while they're certainly worried about the boiling ocean,

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 3>there is money to be made. A shipwreck worth a

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 3>fortune is down below, so the dive continues until disaster strikes.

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:27.280
<v Speaker 3>The boiling region of the ocean suddenly irrupts. Something comes

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 3>out of it looks kind of like a volcanic mountain

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 3>top poking up out of the water, and the ship

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 3>is rocked by brutal waves. It nearly turns over. We

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 3>see cargo from the deck being washed overboard, sailors fighting

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 3>to keep the vessel afloat, and the boat is nearly destroyed.

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.320
<v Speaker 3>And then we cut to the next morning. The violence

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 3>has subsided, but the ship is very damaged. Its engine

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 3>has taken on water. We see this giant propeller making

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 3>a weak effort to spin, and here assessing the problem,

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 3>we meet our two main characters. Actually I guess we

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 3>met them before. We sort of get to know them.

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 3>So there is Captain Joe Ryan played by Bill Trevers,

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.760
<v Speaker 3>and then there is the first mate, Sam Slade, played

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 3>by William Sylvester. Now Honestly, the first time I watched this,

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 3>though they don't look the same, I couldn't tell much

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 3>of a difference between these two guys. I didn't really

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 3>separate them. In my mind. They were just like the

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 3>two Salvage guys. Captain Joe is the taller guy. He's

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 3>the guy wearing the captain's hat. But but on rewatch

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I could see more of the differences between their characters.

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this film doesn't set them up as being like

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 2>an antagonistic to each other. Like they clearly have a

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 2>great working relationship, and therefore they line up on a

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of things. You know, another film might have gone

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 2>in a different direction, where you know, one of them's good,

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 2>one of them's bad. You know, one of them wants

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 2>to cut corners and the other one is buy the book,

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's not really what we have.

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Here, certainly not in the beginning. They do have more

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 3>differences later on in the film.

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you throw a giant monster into a relationship,

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>even a working, reallytionship, and it changes everything that's right.

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 3>So Sam and Joe figured that the boat is going

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 3>to take three or four days to repair, and they're

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 3>out of fresh water, so they need to go ashore

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 3>at the nearest port, which is on a small island

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 3>where they're off the coast of Ireland by the way,

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 3>but it's a small island called Nara, and so our

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 3>salvage buddies take a dinghy into the port and along

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 3>the way we see some kind of strange creatures that

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.360
<v Speaker 3>appear to be dead floating in the water. They're like

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 3>weird floating. I mean, we see these models. At one point,

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Bill Travers like picks one up out of the water

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 3>and holds it up for us to see, and they're

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 3>like these rubber fish that I think have legs and

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 3>they have things poking out of their eyes.

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, big rubber monster fish everywhere, like weird enough looking

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that you would have it seems like it would have

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>been more alarming, but I guess yeah, they're just like, well,

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.880
<v Speaker 2>these are strange, not familiar with this species.

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Bill Travs says, never seen anything like that before,

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 3>and then just throws it back.

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they pick one up, look at it, throw it

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 2>back in.

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, maybe when you're a salvage operator,

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 3>you are just constantly seeing things like, oh, that's a

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 3>weird thing from the ocean, don't know what that is.

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a cryptozoology hadn't been invented yet, so you couldn't

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>like take a picture of it and claim that it's

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a you know, some sort of fantastic creature. They're just like, well,

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 2>that's expected. Really, it's a chupacapra. It's got to be so.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>They determined that the whole ocean floor must have been

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.760
<v Speaker 3>torn up by what appeared to be a volcanic corruption,

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 3>the thing that damaged their boat. But they dock, they

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 3>meet some local fishermen who are not very friendly and

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 3>mostly don't speak English. They just kind of cuss them

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:40.800
<v Speaker 3>out in Gaelic, and eventually they come to a house

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 3>where they meet a little boy who will become another

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 3>one of the main characters of this movie. The boy

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 3>is Sean. He is introduced as an orphan boy who

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.919
<v Speaker 3>assists the harbormaster mccarton. And you know what, I give

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 3>credit to this child actor. He does a much better

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 3>job than you might expect with his role. But also

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 3>they have him dressed up in some funny clothes. When

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 3>we were watching it, Rachel was observing that, like they

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 3>just have shown in these gigantic clothes, like he's wearing

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 3>this huge sweater tucked into huge pants.

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, he does become important. He's an

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>important character, not just a one off. And as we

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of alluded to earlier, Yeah, this whole first act

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>has kind of a full car vibe to it. A

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>solid mysterious atmosphere is rolled out, and i'd say they

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>also venture into sort of like soft lovecrafty and othering

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>of the Irish here with this whole like, oh, they

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.399
<v Speaker 2>can't understand them. There's something creepy going on here in

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 2>this this Irish village, which I mean, as we'll find out,

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 2>nothing really that creepy is going on, but they kind

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 2>of create this air of mystery.

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, the way they're first introduced, you might expect

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 3>that the like, all the people on the island are

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 3>part of a cult that worships Gorgo or something. That's

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.280
<v Speaker 3>not the case. They're no, Like, they're just as baffled

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 3>and terrified by Gorgo as anybody else, it seems.

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, so Sean invites our heroes into the harbor

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Master's cabin and he informs them that Macarton is not

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 3>that the harbor Master mccarton is not actually a local

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Sean says, instead a city man, he is a government man,

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 3>calls himself an archaeologist. So I was a little confused

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 3>by this. Macarton is simultaneously the harbor master and a

0:43:30.520 --> 0:43:31.800
<v Speaker 3>working archaeologist.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like a lot of roles were combined

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 2>into this was originally just going to be the whole

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 2>movie is tinkering around in the small village.

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point this in an earlier draft. I

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 3>wonder if this was two different characters that were combined

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 3>into one. Yeah, could have been anyway. Sean says he

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 3>works for mccarton, quote, cleaning up the things he finds,

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 3>and Sean asks if they want to see these things

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 3>that he cleans up for mccarton. It turns out McCartin

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 3>is he's got like a back room where he is

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:08.439
<v Speaker 3>piling up a secret stash of priceless Viking artifacts left

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 3>over from a great sea battle a thousand years ago

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 3>when the Irish drove off the Vikings and sank their ships.

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.760
<v Speaker 3>And Sean says that apparently fighting in the Irish's corner

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 3>was a sea spirit called Ogre, and he points up

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 3>to a figure of like a dragon head that I

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.000
<v Speaker 3>guess is supposed to be a representation of Ogra.

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>It's a nice shock. I mean, in a way, it

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of reminds me of the early scenes in The

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Exorcist where we haven't seen anything demonic yet we see

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 2>that statue of Bazoo Zoo and it's you know, it's

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 2>ominous and really one of the creepier moments of a

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 2>film that you know, in its later stages is less

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 2>concerned with being subtly creepy and more in your face.

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the dogs are fighting in the rubbish heep well

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>while he's looking at the statue. Yeah.

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And in a similar way, this is a movie

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 2>that is going to be very in your face later on,

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>But at this point we haven't I've seen the monster,

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and we just have this nice subtle idea, you know,

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the sort of the mythic potency of the idea.

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 3>So just then in the artifact room, they are interrupted

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 3>by mccarton, the city man. Mccarton is borderline hostile from

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 3>the get go. He seems to be wanting to protect

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 3>his stash of Viking stuff, and he says, by orders

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 3>of the local authorities, no ship is allowed to put

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.800
<v Speaker 3>into port at Nara for more than twenty four hours

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 3>without a permit, so Joe and Sam plead for help.

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 3>After all, he's like, you know, the ocean boiled, something

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 3>wrecked our engine. But mccarton will not budge on this.

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I don't make the rules. It's never established

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.959
<v Speaker 3>who does make the rules. But they cannot come into

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 3>port except to get some water and leave. So on

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 3>the way back to their ship, Sam and Joe run

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 3>into some local boats who at first cuss them out

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 3>in Gaelic and then report that they are waiting for

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 3>some divers to come up, and when one of the

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 3>divers does turn up, he is dead, so they pull

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 3>him on board the and Sam looks at the dead

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 3>diver and concludes that he died of fright. And I

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 3>always wonder how you can tell that in movies just

0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 3>by looking at people.

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, without like a Star Trek medical scanner device.

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Usually sometimes there's a vision that they make it abundantly clear,

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 2>like suddenly the hair is turned white, or they're like

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 2>severe distortions allah the ring. But for the most part,

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 2>in films like this, it's like I touch him on

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the neck, he's dead, Jim.

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 3>So we get a diving scene next, Sam and Joe

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 3>are on the case. They're trying to figure out. What

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 3>are they trying to figure out? I don't know. They

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:38.600
<v Speaker 3>go down to investigate, I think, what could have scared

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.279
<v Speaker 3>the diver that killed him.

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 2>And they also are just suspicious. They they're suspicious of

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 2>this archaeologists. They're like, something is up, and we want

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 2>to find out what is up and what he's up to,

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's why they're going freelance here.

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 3>That's right. So they just they like scoop it down.

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 3>And I really like in this scene that they just

0:46:57.360 --> 0:47:00.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of see gorgo. He's just down there swim swimming around.

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:02.879
<v Speaker 3>The water is murky, so you don't get a great

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 3>look at him yet, but you just see this like

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 3>lizard rat swimming through the water. And they come back up.

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 3>They're sitting there in their scuba gear smoking cigarettes and

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Joe says, what did you see? Sam? And Sam says,

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but whatever it was, and never want

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 3>to see it again. Unfortunately you will in the next scene.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 3>So later on the salvage ship, they're bringing aboard barrels.

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 3>I think this is the fresh water they asked for,

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 3>and Sean the child shows up on the boat. He

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 3>says that mccarton wants to see them, and then he

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 3>also says that the permit is a heathen lie. I

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.719
<v Speaker 3>didn't know exactly what this meant.

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Sean is ready to sell out his village

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.879
<v Speaker 2>to any outsider salvage crew that is just halfway nice

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 2>to it.

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's nothing so far to establish that Joe and

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Sam are nice people like they.

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>They're like everybody's in the business of finding stuff lost

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 2>on the seafloor and stealing it for your own purposes. Yeah,

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's implied that these eyes are okay, whereas the

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 2>archaeologist is clearly up to no good.

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.560
<v Speaker 3>He's a city man. Yeah, Yeah, are Sam and Joe

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.879
<v Speaker 3>not citymen? What makes one a city man?

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess they're they're they're semen.

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 3>They're navy men, right, Okay, Yeah, there are men of

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 3>the salt. Yeah, of the salt in the wind. Okay.

0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 3>So the next thing that happens is the atmosphere gets

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 3>pretty cool, like the locals appear to be preparing for

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 3>something weird. I would say this scene is like a

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 3>cross between Jaws and The Wicker Man. We see locals

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 3>loading into boats rowboats with flaming torches and harpoons and

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 3>one harpooneer spies something in the water and then lets

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 3>his dart fly, and then we see Gorgo. We see

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 3>this head, this like rat lizard type head pop up

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 3>out of the water with red eyes, with a with

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>a harpoon I think stuck in his eye, and Sean

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:59.720
<v Speaker 3>informs us that this is Ogre, this is the sea spirit.

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 3>So then we get kind of a battle scene that

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 3>is Ogre versus the boat Posse. And then after this,

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Ogre comes on shore and attacks the harbor. He's like

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 3>stomping around smashing things, and mccarton seems to be in

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 3>command of the locals. He's like he's like commanding a

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 3>group of men with rifles who get into formation and

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 3>shoot at Ogra. But does it do anything, of course not.

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.800
<v Speaker 2>How did they control the monster in ancient times? I

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like like ultimately, the the the alluded to backstory

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 2>is far more fascinating than anything we get into later

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>on in the film, Like what was that encounter like

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 2>between the Irish and their monster and the Viking invaders?

0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I want to see that prequel.

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we never really learned any more about that, do we?

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe they controlled the monster with religion. That's that

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 2>would that would make sense, That would be interesting.

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 3>But I do like a lot of the way this

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 3>scene looks like. There are some shots of, you know,

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 3>from a distance, of the monster, the monster sort of

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 3>walking through the harbor, and then you see all the

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 3>people running around with their fires and torches trying to

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 3>stand off against him. Is a It's actually a surprisingly

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 3>dark and cool looking scene. Yeah, I agree, But of

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 3>course the locals are completely ineffective at repelling the creature.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Their harpoons and bullets do nothing. But the outsider Sam

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 3>and Joe they have an idea. They have the idea

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 3>of throwing sticks at Gorgo. Technically, they throw flaming torches

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 3>at Gorgo or Ogra, whatever the creature is called at

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 3>this point. I can't remember what we specified so far.

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 3>So far, but to be clear, nobody in the movie

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 3>has said the word Gorgo yet. That name will come later.

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.800
<v Speaker 3>So they throw some torches. Gorgo gets the torches stuck

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 3>in his teeth. Then he squeals, walks backwards into the water,

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.200
<v Speaker 3>almost as if moving in reverse I think this actually

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.320
<v Speaker 3>is a reverse shot, and then sinks back into the waves.

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 2>So they drove him away.

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:57.919
<v Speaker 3>It worked right, And after the attack, the locals are

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 3>mad at mccarton and I wasn't your wily? Is Gorgo

0:51:02.719 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 3>his fault? Don't see any reason to think so?

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, we know the viewer knows that

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 2>this probably has something to do with the volcanic activity, yeah,

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 2>and that they're thinking, oh, it's because he's still in

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 2>all that Viking gold, but that, I mean, did it

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 2>unless you're going to make some sort of crazy hypothesis

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.920
<v Speaker 2>in which the theft of Viking gold from the seafloor

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 2>caused some sort of volcanic reaction.

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.400
<v Speaker 3>There's no indication of that in the film or and also,

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:32.839
<v Speaker 3>from what I can tell, no indication that Gorgo cares

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 3>about the Viking artifacts or the gold anyway. So the

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 3>locals are mad at mccarton. They start saying, hey, we

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:41.040
<v Speaker 3>want to leave with Sam and Joe on their salvage

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.439
<v Speaker 3>ship when it's repaired, but mccarton tries to talk them

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 3>out of that, and eventually Sam and Joe retreat with

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 3>mccarton into his harbor master's shack to discuss a deal.

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 3>They know that mcarton is secretly trying to protect the

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Viking treasure which I guess he plans to keep for himself.

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 3>That he has a safe full of what looked like

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 3>Holy Grails.

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, different Holy Grail prototypes in there.

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got like I can see at least fifteen

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Holy Grails in there. And Sam and Joe offer a trade.

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 3>They say, if mccarton pays them off in some of

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the Viking gold, they will get rid of the monster

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 3>for him. So they make a deal. So they leave,

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 3>but then Sean the kid, follows them and he does

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 3>not like the idea of them catching ogra. He catches

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.919
<v Speaker 3>up to them and he says, it's a bad thing.

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 3>You're doing a terrible bad thing, mister Ryan. And then

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Joe Ryan kneels next to the kid. He says, why

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.920
<v Speaker 3>don't you call me Joe? And Sean says okay Joe,

0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:49.479
<v Speaker 3>And Joe says okay Sean. End of conversation. So next

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 3>time a child accuses you of doing evil, just remember

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 3>you get on a first name basis. It'll totally distract them.

0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 2>But I love the setup here, Like we're really cooking

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>with gas now. The idea is that these guys are

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 2>going to catch the monster in order to make that

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:09.959
<v Speaker 2>sweet Viking gold, and so this is the challenge ahead

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 2>of them. There's no indication that they actually have the

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 2>ability to do this, but they're going to set out

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and try to do it anyway.

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Well, at first they're like, how would you

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 3>even kill a creature like that? Maybe you'd use dynamite

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 3>or something, But then they consider, actually, what is a

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 3>creature like that worth alive? Maybe it's worth more alive.

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 3>So from here we move on to the Bathisphere scene.

0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Though this bathisphere is not a sphere, it is not spherical,

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 3>it's sort of the bathist cylinder, and Joe gets into

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:43.280
<v Speaker 3>this metal contraption with some portholes on it that looks

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 3>incredibly small inside, and I don't know, this is a

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:53.879
<v Speaker 3>cool scene concept, though it doesn't look as amazing as

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 3>I think it could have.

0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Weldon points out that this section of the film is

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty much a direct remake of a scene in the

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Beast from twenty thousand fathoms, and so I had to

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 2>look it up because again I've only really seen the

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 2>monster sequences from that movie. And indeed there's another Bathisphere

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 2>segment that you can watch. So they basically were like,

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 2>well that worked last time. Let's do it again. But yeah,

0:54:15.520 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 2>to your point, I think it works better in the

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 2>mind that it does on screen, at least by modern standards.

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe this was a lot more impressive

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 2>at the time.

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Also, the Bathistphere in this movie is like a tartist

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 3>and that it is much bigger on the inside than

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:33.080
<v Speaker 3>on the outside. We see Joe Ryan inside there, and

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's quite roomy actually on the inside though.

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially because that's how big this actor is. Again, Yeah,

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:41.879
<v Speaker 2>he has he has so much room. And if you're

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 2>curious about all this, we did some episodes of stuff

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to blow your mind back in the day about the

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Bathistphere and about the construction of it and the size

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 2>of it and some of the amazing observations that were

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:56.839
<v Speaker 2>made with it. It's an amazing story and I can

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 2>totally understand wanting to capture that in the film, and

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I guess to a certain extent they do. Like I

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 2>like the idea of the small capsule being lowered into

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 2>this vast, unexplored world, like a that world is vast

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 2>and as large scale as your giant monsters, though being

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 2>very much an outsider in it. In this vulnerable little capsule.

0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, the thing to remember about the Bathisphere

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.200
<v Speaker 3>is that it has no propulsion of its own, so

0:55:25.239 --> 0:55:27.719
<v Speaker 3>it's just dangling by this cable. So if it were

0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:31.439
<v Speaker 3>to somehow drop that, that's it. You're not coming back up.

0:55:31.760 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, anyway, so they send Joe down there, and they

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:39.759
<v Speaker 3>make contact. There's a Gorgo attack. Gorgo attacks the Bathisphere

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 3>and oh you hear these like tin cam crunching sounds

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 3>and you see water spraying on the inside, but there

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 3>is not a catastrophic implosion. Joe is not killed. Instead,

0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 3>the ship successfully traps Gorgo in a net.

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a lackluster finished to that though, because

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 2>it's like the bathysphere, oh, high technology, and then they

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.600
<v Speaker 2>just use a net. Just yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 3>And then we get some news reports and I can't

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 3>remember what we've said about this already, but from here

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:11.280
<v Speaker 3>on out the movie will become highly reliant on news

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 3>reports for both plot exposition and for exploration of themes.

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.759
<v Speaker 3>We're just going to get reporters telling us what's going

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 3>on and what it means, over and over.

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it basically goes all Santa Claus conquers the Martians

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.839
<v Speaker 2>for a bit here where it's yeah, a bunch of newscasts,

0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 2>expert interviews, and of course our all time favorite stock footage.

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 2>So much stock footage, though at least this time around

0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 2>it's British military stock footage, which has, you know, a

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:43.320
<v Speaker 2>different texture to it compared to the like nineteen fifties

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 2>and sixties US military stock footage that you see in

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:47.879
<v Speaker 2>so many films of that era.

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we haven't gotten exactly to the point where stock

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 3>footage becomes super prevalent yet, that'll come a little later.

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 3>And it's into the second act. Right now, we're at

0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:02.399
<v Speaker 3>the at the like peak newscast stuff. So we get

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:06.800
<v Speaker 3>a newscast where this guy at a desk explains what's happening.

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 3>He says, the headlines of the entire world are being

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:12.600
<v Speaker 3>monopolized by the news of the capture of a fantastic monster,

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 3>seemingly of prehistoric origin off the coast of Ireland. Puzzled

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 3>scientists are already speculating that the monster may have been

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:24.920
<v Speaker 3>released from some vast suboceanic cavern far beneath Earth's crust

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 3>by unprecedented volcanic eruptions which occurred in the area last

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 3>week and then meanwhile, we also get this other guy who,

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 3>like we cut to a different newscaster who says some

0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.000
<v Speaker 3>scientific authorities are suggesting that the whole thing is merely

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 3>an elaborate Irish hoax. Nevertheless, the Irish government are sending

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 3>two of their top paleontologists to claim the creature for

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Ireland if it does exist.

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I also have to throw in here that, you know,

0:57:57.080 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 2>I think all organisms are of prehistoric origin, if you

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 2>want to be technical about it. So I don't really

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 2>know what that means. What do you mean of prehistoric origin?

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I know what they're getting at, but I'm just not

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 2>sure it makes sense.

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, We've watched a lot of movies with plot

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 3>exposition via like a newsdesk segment, and I feel like

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 3>at some point we should go back and rank the

0:58:16.560 --> 0:58:19.200
<v Speaker 3>newscaster segments. I'm want to say, these guys, they're no

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Dick Cutting.

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Now.

0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 3>What was he that he was in a creature with

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 3>the atom brain?

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 3>He was? Yes, yeah, he's the Walter cronkind of monster attacks.

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Always always trust Dick Cutting. Let's see here. Oh yeah.

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 3>Then we get the transport segments, so we see gorgo

0:58:36.160 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 3>on the salvage ship, he's like tied up in ropes

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and nets. He's being taken somewhere. The scientists from Dublin

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 3>who were mentioned in the news report, they arrive on

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 3>the boat and they say, this animal is of enormous

0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 3>scientific value. You must take it to Dublin immediately, and

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:55.600
<v Speaker 3>its skin must be kept wet. But then, when the

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 3>scientists are out of earshot Sam and Joe, one of

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.919
<v Speaker 3>them pulls out like a letter they got, I think,

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 3>which is a better offer. It is from Dorkin's circus

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 3>in London, and they say that Dorkin is offering them

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 3>thirty thousand against fifty percent of the gross. So are

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 3>these hardened mercenaries going to turn gorgo over to the

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:21.480
<v Speaker 3>clutches of science for a pittance of compensation. Hell no, no,

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna go. They're going to send him to the

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 3>circus of Dorkin. So they set the course for London.

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I think the scientists from Dublin are still on the

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 3>ship as the ship is like departing, like going in

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 3>the other direction to take the monster to London. So

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I assume they're protesting the entire time. Oh also, Sean

0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 3>comes along on the ship and I don't know why,

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 3>but he's on the ship now. I think he has

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 3>now just become the ward of Sam and Joe and

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Sean comes to Oh. He comes out in the middle

0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 3>of the night and talks to Gorgo. He's like, I

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 3>came to let you go back to the sea, and

1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:04.920
<v Speaker 3>tries to release him. But then Joe comes out and

1:00:04.960 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 3>gets mad at Sean and he says, you little nuthead,

1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 3>I have a gutton notion to toss you over the side.

1:00:11.160 --> 1:00:14.000
<v Speaker 2>But we get a little bit of the natural affinity

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:17.680
<v Speaker 2>that a young child has for a giant monster. You know.

1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:20.320
<v Speaker 2>This is of course something recently see especially in the

1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Gamera and movies. Gamera is a friend to children.

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 3>It's never established that Gorgo is a friend to all children,

1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:29.200
<v Speaker 3>but Sean is like naturally drawn to Gorgo. There are

1:00:29.240 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 3>scenes later where Gorgo spoiler Gorgo's mother is destroying London

1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:37.960
<v Speaker 3>and Sean while all the crowds are running away, Sean

1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:39.200
<v Speaker 3>runs toward.

1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Kids get Kaijuk. They understand that's part of the connection.

1:00:51.720 --> 1:00:54.520
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Joe and Sam they put armed guards on Gorgo.

1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:57.520
<v Speaker 3>They say, if that thing moves, start shooting, But why

1:00:57.560 --> 1:00:59.800
<v Speaker 3>would they do that? Isn't like this thing being a

1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 3>lot their meal ticket as so Gorgo I think kills

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:06.800
<v Speaker 3>a guard in the middle of the night. And they

1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:09.880
<v Speaker 3>also mentioned that Gorgo is dripping some kind of phosphorescent

1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:13.000
<v Speaker 3>ooze into the water as they travel that won't come

1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:17.720
<v Speaker 3>back Later. They arrive in London and we get a

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 3>bunch of shots of London and some things that are interesting.

1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Rob I included one screenshot for you to look at here,

1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:27.200
<v Speaker 3>because what we're looking at is like in the background

1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:30.800
<v Speaker 3>a real shot of the Thames with like the Tower

1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Bridge in the background. But then in the foreground there

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<v Speaker 3>is a it's supposed to be a tent, like a

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<v Speaker 3>circus tent that says Gorgo over the top of it,

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<v Speaker 3>so now we're actually seeing the name. And then there

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<v Speaker 3>are painted cutouts of people in front of the circus tent,

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<v Speaker 3>so they're not actors. They're like stands of people. But

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<v Speaker 3>it cuts away pretty quickly, so if you weren't able

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<v Speaker 3>to pause, you might think they were really standing there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a quick mat painting here. It's not in

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<v Speaker 3>there interesting. So there's some conflict here. When they arrive

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<v Speaker 3>in London, the scientists from Dublin are mad that Sam

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<v Speaker 3>and Joe have decided to sell the animal to Dorkin

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<v Speaker 3>instead of handing it over for research, and they point

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<v Speaker 3>out that it may be carrying unknown diseases or parasites.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't been studied yet, but Dorkin has got that

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<v Speaker 3>sweet cash for them. And Dorkin also makes assurances to

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<v Speaker 3>the scientists. He's like, don't worry, you know, we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be giving you every opportunity to study the creature while

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<v Speaker 3>it is held in a concrete pit for the gaulking

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<v Speaker 3>crowds I'm selling tickets to. And Dorkin is a real

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<v Speaker 3>like pencil mustache, bow tie wearing money freak.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very clear that he is a villain in

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<v Speaker 2>this picture. We're not giving a lot of reason to

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<v Speaker 2>sympathize with this case.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and then we get the gorgo in chains parade

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<v Speaker 3>through London. I think this scene was amazing. So there

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<v Speaker 3>is like this parade of trucks or lories I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that say dork In circus and say Gorgo on them.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of them is like a flatbed truck that

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<v Speaker 3>has Gorgo on the trailer and he's like wrapped in

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<v Speaker 3>a big tarp that says Gorgo covered in chains, and

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like it's like tied to Saint Dronicus, like

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<v Speaker 3>marching into Rome with the Queen of the Goths in

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<v Speaker 3>a cage. But it's all for Dorkin. And and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess it was Dorkin's idea to call the creature Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>because it's written on all of his circus stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he knows you got to brand it, so that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. And yeah, this this whole sequence is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>great because it's it's it's weird h And also you

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<v Speaker 2>get lots of period shots of London. I really enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>just seeing all of like the neon and the signage

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth. So this this is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and these are real location shots. So they actually

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<v Speaker 3>must have like driven a truck with a thing that

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<v Speaker 3>said Gorgo on it in front of Buckingham Palace and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that. And the we get another news cast

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<v Speaker 3>that's saying we bring you the u and our most

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<v Speaker 3>unusual telecast today, we bring you the arrival of Gorgo.

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<v Speaker 3>This creature, which should have been extinct ten million years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>is truly an awesome sight as it is transported through

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<v Speaker 3>the streets of modern London on its way to Battersea

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<v Speaker 3>Park and there's a big sign for Gordon's Gin in

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<v Speaker 3>the background, so it's just ads all over the place

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<v Speaker 3>and the newscast goes on. Of course, Londoners are notoriously skeptical,

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<v Speaker 3>and a good many we've spoken to still seem to

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<v Speaker 3>think it's some kind of circus stunt. But the animal

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<v Speaker 3>is real, take my word for it. And they go

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<v Speaker 3>on to it to say, well, the streets have been cleared,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, rest assured there is no danger. The

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<v Speaker 3>animal has been given a large dose of tranquilizer and

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<v Speaker 3>actually being so close to this thing, I could do

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<v Speaker 3>with a large dose of tranquilizer myself. But jokes aside,

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<v Speaker 3>the animal has killed a number of persons already. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>and finally, this is also the newscast where when the

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<v Speaker 3>guy is saying, oh, we've arrived at Battersea Park where

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgo as he called we don't know why, will be

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<v Speaker 3>exhibited to the public, and Gorgo is like, you can

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<v Speaker 3>just straight up see Gorgo on the back of the truck,

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<v Speaker 3>like his eyes are open and they're glowing red, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's all tied down, and Gorgo in captivity like this

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<v Speaker 3>does look very pitiable, like they they achieve in tugging

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<v Speaker 3>on the heart strings, Like I'm already feeling bad for

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgo and they haven't even really gotten to the part

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<v Speaker 3>where you're supposed to feel super bad for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet you know, I can't help but feel as cool

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<v Speaker 2>as these scenes are, Dorkin's kind of given it away here,

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone gets a free peak at Gorgo and then

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna sell tickets to have Gorgo do more than

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<v Speaker 2>just be present.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that's a good point, yeah, Dorkin, You

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<v Speaker 3>would think he'd be keeping more of a lid on it,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe just trying to give people the tiniest tease

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<v Speaker 3>so that they will have to come pay for a ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, like you can see you can see Gorgo's

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<v Speaker 3>face on the truck, because.

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<v Speaker 2>We know from King Kong that like a ticketed King

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<v Speaker 2>Kong presentation consists of King Kong chained on stage and

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<v Speaker 2>there's not much to it. I remember The Simpsons Tree

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<v Speaker 2>House of Horror has some jokes kind of alluding to

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<v Speaker 2>this fact that, like, like, what was the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the show going to consist of? You just sit there

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<v Speaker 2>looking at King Kong? But you know, what's the Gorgo show?

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<v Speaker 2>Going to consist of is there an opening act, is

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<v Speaker 2>there some sort of a finale you're working towards. Is

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<v Speaker 2>he going to do any tricks or is he just

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<v Speaker 2>going to be tied up more or less like he

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<v Speaker 2>is in this whole sequence.

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<v Speaker 3>He was supposed to read Gorgo then puppet show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but so oh and we see so like for some reason,

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<v Speaker 3>Sam and Joe are still involved and they don't just

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<v Speaker 3>like hand Gorgo off to Dorkin at the port and

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<v Speaker 3>then take their money and go. They're like they seem

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<v Speaker 3>to be Gorgo's full time caretakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, despite having no qualifications, no call professions for

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<v Speaker 2>this at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, they're salvage divers. What they what do they know

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<v Speaker 3>about Gorgo? But Joe Ryan still has his captain's hat on,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way. But there's like a Dorkin press conference

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the part where one of the reporters

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<v Speaker 3>is like, you know, is it true that you stole

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<v Speaker 3>this from the Irish government and Dorkin is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they may take it back soon. So you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>get your tickets to see Gorgo today while it's still here.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, like we said, Joe and Sam, they're still

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<v Speaker 3>involved in handling Gorgo, and during transport they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>put it in its enclosure, and Gorko is awakened from

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<v Speaker 3>his tranquilizer slumber by camera flashes of irresponsible reporters. That

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<v Speaker 3>seems familiar. Was that in King Kong? I think maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it was? And there is a brief Gorgo rampage at

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<v Speaker 3>the circus where he is eventually driven back. He's driven

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<v Speaker 3>into his concrete pit by men with flame throwers. There

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be a theme that fires Gorgo's weakness, but

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<v Speaker 3>Gorgo kills some people with this tail on the way

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<v Speaker 3>back to his concrete pit, including a friend of Joe

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<v Speaker 3>and Sam's named Mike, and Sam seems more disturbed by

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<v Speaker 3>this than Joe does. But eventually they get Gorgo locked away,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we're just treated to some shots of like

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<v Speaker 3>London having Gorgo fever. So there are double decker buses

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<v Speaker 3>that all say Gorgo on the side of them. We

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<v Speaker 3>see the I guess it's Piccadilly Circus maybe, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>some like streets of London where there are just Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>signs all over the place, next to big posters for

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<v Speaker 3>schweps and Gordon's gin and stuff. We see fireworks for Gorgo.

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<v Speaker 3>There's cotton candy and rides at the circus and Dorkin

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<v Speaker 3>is out like barking in front of the circus entrance, saying,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone in the world is talking about Gorgo, but only

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<v Speaker 3>you can see him. Only five shillings ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're you know, they're selling ice cream and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And we see all of the British circus goers standing

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<v Speaker 3>at the edge of this concrete pit where Gorgo is

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<v Speaker 3>in chain, standing in like a puddle of water. They're

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<v Speaker 3>all eating cotton candy and bananas and gaulking at this

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<v Speaker 3>creature and just poor Gorgo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you feel a lot of sympathy for the

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<v Speaker 2>monster at this point, because yeah, he's just he's in

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<v Speaker 2>this pit and people are gawking at him, and he

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<v Speaker 2>does not belong here. Gorgo was born.

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<v Speaker 3>Free, exactly, and he's also he's supposed to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the sea. This is a point that Sean makes multiple times.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just that he's in captivity, that's bad enough,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's being kept on land and like hosed down

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<v Speaker 3>with water. Gorgo is a sea creature. And we get

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<v Speaker 3>a scene where we see how Sam and Joe are

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with their success differently. Joe is like living it up.

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<v Speaker 3>We see he's got like a nice new suit on

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<v Speaker 3>and he seems to be flashing his wealth. And Sam, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>is shown apparently just like hiding in a trailer at

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<v Speaker 3>the circus where perhaps Sean is living. Like Sean the

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<v Speaker 3>kid is seen sleeping there. Again, it's not exactly clear,

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<v Speaker 3>but it almost suggests that like Sam and Joe have

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<v Speaker 3>adopted Sean, maybe like they are taking care of him now.

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<v Speaker 3>And Sam is seen drinking heavily and he says and

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<v Speaker 3>like Joe comes in and says, hey, you know, how

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<v Speaker 3>about coming out and having a few drinks, And Sam's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having a few drinks right now. Sam is clearly

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<v Speaker 3>not happy with how things are going. And Joe is like,

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<v Speaker 3>stop having feelings. Let's just take the money and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>be happy. But Sam has a Sam has a bad

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<v Speaker 3>premonition about everything. He's like, something bad's gonna happen. I

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<v Speaker 3>can just feel it. And suddenly, and what do you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's prescient. Because they get a phone call and

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<v Speaker 3>it's an urgent meeting with the scientists from Dublin and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, hey, we figured something out. The creature you

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<v Speaker 3>captured is not an adult specimen. Yeah, whoops, not an

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<v Speaker 3>adult specimen. And then Sam says, you mean it isn't

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<v Speaker 3>fully grown. They say no, in fact, it's it's very

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<v Speaker 3>early in infancy. They're like, okay, well, what would an

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<v Speaker 3>adult look like? And then they open up this page

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<v Speaker 3>where they just like put a finger down on this

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<v Speaker 3>illustration of two gorgo skeletons that are exactly the same,

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<v Speaker 3>but one is like ten times bigger than the other.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's you know, it's not quite an actual Gorgosaurus

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<v Speaker 2>skeleton that they have illustrated here, but it is more

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<v Speaker 2>in keeping with a realistic This may be another dinosaur

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<v Speaker 2>species that they're just using the skeleton illustration from, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is very hard to imagine the monster that we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen having this skeleton at the center of it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of meat on those bones.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they're upset. They're like, wow, that would make

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<v Speaker 3>the adult nearly two hundred feet tall, and the scientists

1:11:47.000 --> 1:11:50.600
<v Speaker 3>are like, yep, so obviously we got to notify the authorities.

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<v Speaker 3>And Joe responds by saying, what are you trying to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Stir up a whole hornet's nest because of a few

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<v Speaker 3>calculations on a piece of paper. Nuts to that, Nuts

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<v Speaker 3>to that, I say. Then next we see Gorgo back

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<v Speaker 3>in his enclosure. So he's he's in this concrete pit

1:12:05.439 --> 1:12:08.559
<v Speaker 3>and it's surrounded by electric fencing, but we see Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>testing the fences for weaknesses systematically. He remembers clever Girl exactly. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>back on Nara Island, remember Macarton, the corrupt archaeologist and

1:12:20.479 --> 1:12:23.559
<v Speaker 3>harbor master. While we see him in his harbor master shack,

1:12:23.760 --> 1:12:27.519
<v Speaker 3>just examining his precious Viking gold with a magnifying glass.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess this is all he does in his free time.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's sitting there, and then suddenly a Gorgo like

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<v Speaker 3>creature rises up out of the sea and attacks Nara

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<v Speaker 3>and McMartin or mccarton is crushed, and so, oh, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what's next. This is Gorgo's mom and the Gorgo

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<v Speaker 3>matriarch is on the way to London.

1:12:48.200 --> 1:12:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, he messed up.

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<v Speaker 3>Now humans, So we see all the British radio operators

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<v Speaker 3>naval authorities. They're trying to make contact with Nara Island,

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<v Speaker 3>but not a word from them. And then so the

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<v Speaker 3>next thing is, let's see if we can use our

1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:05.200
<v Speaker 3>precious national stock footage reserves to figure out what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So we see lots of naval engagements, so stock footage

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<v Speaker 3>of like battleships moving their guns around and firing into

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<v Speaker 3>the water and chugging along, and then close ups of

1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:21.760
<v Speaker 3>just admirals with binoculars looking out over the water. There

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<v Speaker 3>is a naval engagement between a battleship and Gorgo's mother.

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you think is going to prevail here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to be the monster.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course we see the authorities back in London

1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:37.400
<v Speaker 3>making these gloating statements about how the creature was undoubtedly destroyed,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it could not possibly be a match for

1:13:39.640 --> 1:13:42.240
<v Speaker 3>our navy. But then they get a phone call and

1:13:42.280 --> 1:13:43.840
<v Speaker 3>we see this guy on the phone. He's like, oh,

1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:47.840
<v Speaker 3>really capsized. O don't know. So they're getting the bad

1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:51.360
<v Speaker 3>news and they figure out that the creature is Gorgo's

1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:54.960
<v Speaker 3>mother and it is on the way to London following

1:13:55.080 --> 1:13:58.439
<v Speaker 3>a trail left in the sea, the ooze that had

1:13:58.479 --> 1:14:01.480
<v Speaker 3>been dripping off of Gorgo. They traveled by boat.

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<v Speaker 2>M She's coming after him.

1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:06.519
<v Speaker 3>So what are you gonna do? We've got a bigger

1:14:06.560 --> 1:14:09.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, ten times bigger monster on the way, Sam

1:14:09.840 --> 1:14:12.640
<v Speaker 3>has an idea, as Sam says, well, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>turn Gorgo loose. We got to let him loose and

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<v Speaker 3>send him back to the sea while we've still got

1:14:16.720 --> 1:14:19.960
<v Speaker 3>a chance. But Dorkin and Joe do not want to

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<v Speaker 3>lose out on their profits. Joe says, what's the matter

1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:26.120
<v Speaker 3>with you? This is the twentieth century. There must be

1:14:26.160 --> 1:14:30.320
<v Speaker 3>some way of handling an overgrown animal. And the admirals

1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:33.639
<v Speaker 3>give assurances that there will be no problem stopping this creature.

1:14:33.840 --> 1:14:36.400
<v Speaker 3>So like the authorities are like, no, no, no, don't

1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:39.439
<v Speaker 3>don't release Gorgo. You keep making money at the circus.

1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:43.680
<v Speaker 3>We will defeat the monster. And then later that night

1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:46.519
<v Speaker 3>we see Sam. Sam like gets drunk and tries to

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<v Speaker 3>release Gorgo and this leads to a fight with Joe

1:14:49.320 --> 1:14:52.559
<v Speaker 3>in which Sam is knocked unconscious and Gorgo is not released.

1:14:53.320 --> 1:14:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Sean is just here like watching these adults fight. And

1:14:57.040 --> 1:15:00.680
<v Speaker 3>then Gorgo's mother arrives, and from here until the end

1:15:00.680 --> 1:15:03.280
<v Speaker 3>of the movie, it is just a long series of

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<v Speaker 3>Mother Gorgo attacks Mother Gorgo versus more of the British Navy.

1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:11.599
<v Speaker 3>They launched torpedoes, they bombard her with heavy guns, They

1:15:11.640 --> 1:15:15.519
<v Speaker 3>drop depth charges all to no effect. She penetrates the defense,

1:15:15.640 --> 1:15:18.880
<v Speaker 3>swims up the estuary, up the river, and she's coming

1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:23.160
<v Speaker 3>for Battersea Park. There's a scene where she's like coming

1:15:23.240 --> 1:15:25.320
<v Speaker 3>up into the harbor. I guess this is on the

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<v Speaker 3>river in London, and the military tries to stop her

1:15:29.400 --> 1:15:32.320
<v Speaker 3>by dumping petrol in the river and setting it on fire,

1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and she clearly doesn't like that, but she is not deterred,

1:15:36.080 --> 1:15:39.040
<v Speaker 3>and Robbi caught a picture. There's one scene where it

1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:42.360
<v Speaker 3>just cuts to these random onlookers who are like watching

1:15:42.479 --> 1:15:46.240
<v Speaker 3>mother Gorgo gets set on fire with these faces like wow,

1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:47.000
<v Speaker 3>so cool.

1:15:47.680 --> 1:15:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we also get a burning man stunt in

1:15:50.560 --> 1:15:53.479
<v Speaker 2>all of this, which was also quite terrifying.

1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh is that? Wait, what do you have in mind?

1:15:56.439 --> 1:15:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Somebody in the Gorgo suit or a human.

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<v Speaker 2>Human at some point in all of this. I mean,

1:16:01.680 --> 1:16:05.679
<v Speaker 2>there's a some of the chaos kind of melts together

1:16:05.920 --> 1:16:08.000
<v Speaker 2>in my mind, but I distinctly remember at least one

1:16:08.040 --> 1:16:10.519
<v Speaker 2>shot of a man on fire.

1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh interesting, I don't recall that, but I believe you.

1:16:13.400 --> 1:16:15.519
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of effects back to back here,

1:16:15.560 --> 1:16:18.400
<v Speaker 3>so they kind of like they wash over you at

1:16:18.439 --> 1:16:21.479
<v Speaker 3>some point. But we see the army and civil defense

1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:25.240
<v Speaker 3>authorities making emergency announcements. They start clearing out the streets.

1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:28.720
<v Speaker 3>They're running around on bullhorn saying don't panic, you will

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<v Speaker 3>be notified when the emergency is over. These shots of

1:16:32.280 --> 1:16:35.000
<v Speaker 3>people running around, there are tanks in the streets. We

1:16:35.000 --> 1:16:38.559
<v Speaker 3>see officials discuss the possibility of using atomic weapons, but

1:16:38.600 --> 1:16:42.599
<v Speaker 3>they decide against it wisely. And then we see Gorgo's

1:16:42.640 --> 1:16:45.120
<v Speaker 3>mother just smashing landmarks. So she comes up on the

1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:49.320
<v Speaker 3>tower bridge smashes it. At some point we get close

1:16:49.400 --> 1:16:51.800
<v Speaker 3>ups on these British soldiers and I'm like, why do

1:16:51.880 --> 1:16:54.679
<v Speaker 3>they look like they're outfitted to go fight in World

1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:55.200
<v Speaker 3>War One?

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<v Speaker 2>I assume this was the standard uniform of the day.

1:16:59.479 --> 1:17:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Gorgo would get it right.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it. Yeah, they It is surprisingly antiquated, looking

1:17:06.520 --> 1:17:09.519
<v Speaker 3>like uniforms and helmets. But maybe that that was the

1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:13.599
<v Speaker 3>outfit in sixty one. Yeah, but you know, nothing nothing

1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:17.160
<v Speaker 3>stopping mother Gorgo. So, as we were talking about earlier,

1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:20.519
<v Speaker 3>the city smashing does go on for a long time

1:17:20.640 --> 1:17:23.600
<v Speaker 3>and it gets somewhat tedious. I would say this is

1:17:24.040 --> 1:17:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I would say, kind of a low point for a

1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:28.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of giant monster movies, and it's a tough balance,

1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:31.400
<v Speaker 3>because in a way, the city smashing is what you're

1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:33.280
<v Speaker 3>there for. That's a part of the part of the

1:17:33.320 --> 1:17:35.840
<v Speaker 3>appeal of the movie. On the other hand, in a

1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.479
<v Speaker 3>lot of these movies, there's just more of it than

1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:39.519
<v Speaker 3>you actually need.

1:17:40.600 --> 1:17:43.760
<v Speaker 2>His eyes are always bigger than your stomach. Yeah, yeah,

1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:45.519
<v Speaker 2>this looks great, and they're like, oh wow, it's still

1:17:45.560 --> 1:17:48.680
<v Speaker 2>it's still happenings, still going. But you know that the

1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:53.040
<v Speaker 2>really memorable moments are, of course, when the monster keys

1:17:53.080 --> 1:17:55.160
<v Speaker 2>in on a particular landmark and we do get some

1:17:55.200 --> 1:17:56.000
<v Speaker 2>of that action here.

1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. So this one has the same issue a

1:17:59.240 --> 1:18:02.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of these movies do. The smashing I think goes

1:18:02.360 --> 1:18:04.760
<v Speaker 3>on a little too long. There's a surplus of it.

1:18:04.840 --> 1:18:07.760
<v Speaker 3>But on the other hand, as we said earlier, it's

1:18:08.040 --> 1:18:10.320
<v Speaker 3>superb model work. I love the way a lot of

1:18:10.320 --> 1:18:14.360
<v Speaker 3>this looks. It's very tactle and pleasurable smashing to observe.

1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:18.640
<v Speaker 3>At one point, I think actually the army like accidentally

1:18:18.720 --> 1:18:22.960
<v Speaker 3>shoots Big Ben or the clock tower, they like launch

1:18:22.960 --> 1:18:26.840
<v Speaker 3>a missile through it, trying to hit Mother Gorgo. So

1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:28.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, how do you think this is going to end? Well,

1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:32.040
<v Speaker 3>the power of tanks and guns and bombs stop Gorgo's mother.

1:18:32.800 --> 1:18:36.640
<v Speaker 3>What do you think. No, So we see, you know,

1:18:36.640 --> 1:18:39.120
<v Speaker 3>our characters running around trying to get out of Harm's way.

1:18:39.160 --> 1:18:43.320
<v Speaker 3>At one point, Sean is like drawn to Gorgo's mother.

1:18:43.479 --> 1:18:46.360
<v Speaker 3>He's like approaching her when everybody else is fleeing, and

1:18:46.400 --> 1:18:48.719
<v Speaker 3>we see Joe have kind of a hero turn. Joe

1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:52.160
<v Speaker 3>has been the selfish, the more selfish, greedy one in

1:18:52.200 --> 1:18:55.760
<v Speaker 3>this act so far, but when Sean is in Harm's way,

1:18:55.840 --> 1:18:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Joe goes to rescue him and bring him out of

1:18:57.680 --> 1:19:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Harm's way, and we see Joe and Sean they're chased

1:19:01.000 --> 1:19:04.080
<v Speaker 3>into the underground and then the tunnels are collapsing and flooding,

1:19:04.120 --> 1:19:05.000
<v Speaker 3>but they make it out.

1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this segment with in the tunnels I thought was

1:19:09.840 --> 1:19:13.400
<v Speaker 2>very effective, like in general, all of the monster destruction

1:19:13.520 --> 1:19:16.560
<v Speaker 2>going on, even though, like you said, there is a

1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:18.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of it, but we do cut to all of

1:19:18.720 --> 1:19:22.519
<v Speaker 2>these scenes of the crowds in full panic mode and

1:19:22.560 --> 1:19:24.880
<v Speaker 2>like the street level understanding of the destruction and then

1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:28.800
<v Speaker 2>our character level understanding of the destruction, and that does

1:19:28.840 --> 1:19:31.400
<v Speaker 2>make it feel a lot more real. And there's one

1:19:31.479 --> 1:19:35.280
<v Speaker 2>segment in particular where Joe and Sean are just in

1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:39.280
<v Speaker 2>there in the crowd crush. Everyone's just going down into

1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:42.439
<v Speaker 2>the tunnels, into the subway tunnels there, and there's this

1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:47.040
<v Speaker 2>terrifying scene where like they make it into the tunnels

1:19:47.080 --> 1:19:51.479
<v Speaker 2>proper and behind them again crowds of people and then

1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:55.639
<v Speaker 2>the ceiling collapses like gorgo just destroys all of them

1:19:55.640 --> 1:19:59.040
<v Speaker 2>and like hundreds of people die. It's you know, the

1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:02.599
<v Speaker 2>it would seem to be the case anyway, and only

1:20:02.960 --> 1:20:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Joe and Sean make it out, And I was like,

1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:07.839
<v Speaker 2>well that that was effective, Like that made me feel

1:20:07.920 --> 1:20:11.639
<v Speaker 2>the chaos and the destruction of these sequences. So it's

1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:14.800
<v Speaker 2>not just man in rubber suit fall on bridge.

1:20:15.120 --> 1:20:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would emphasize that, like nothing this year does

1:20:18.160 --> 1:20:21.479
<v Speaker 3>not look funny, Like this is a the way it's

1:20:21.560 --> 1:20:26.680
<v Speaker 3>visually realized. These scenes are very like dark and grim. Yeah,

1:20:26.760 --> 1:20:28.840
<v Speaker 3>So of course as the chaos is going on, we

1:20:28.920 --> 1:20:31.519
<v Speaker 3>get a lot more radio reports, you know, like the

1:20:31.800 --> 1:20:34.799
<v Speaker 3>radio reporter says like Piccadilly the heart of London. Words

1:20:34.840 --> 1:20:37.240
<v Speaker 3>can't describe it. There's been nothing like it, not even

1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:39.840
<v Speaker 3>in the worst of the blitz. This section is a

1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:44.120
<v Speaker 3>complete shambles, people running mad with fear, and we see

1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:46.439
<v Speaker 3>on the street level there's like a there's an end

1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Times profit who's wearing a sign that says repent, the

1:20:49.479 --> 1:20:53.920
<v Speaker 3>end is nigh, And we see the admirals and the

1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Dublin scientists trying to come up with a plan to

1:20:56.479 --> 1:21:00.839
<v Speaker 3>like electrocute Mother Gorgo. The admirals like, how much voltage

1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:03.320
<v Speaker 3>will we need and the Dublin scientist is like, uh,

1:21:04.040 --> 1:21:07.599
<v Speaker 3>two to three million volts but that's only a guess. Yeah,

1:21:08.160 --> 1:21:10.240
<v Speaker 3>then why do you even say it?

1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:12.200
<v Speaker 2>And it really they do a great job of making

1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:15.040
<v Speaker 2>it feel rather hopeless because at this point there's just

1:21:15.120 --> 1:21:17.920
<v Speaker 2>no real plan. Uh, and it seems like nothing is

1:21:17.960 --> 1:21:22.400
<v Speaker 2>going to stop the absolute destruction of the city unless

1:21:22.439 --> 1:21:25.719
<v Speaker 2>they were maybe to do something like release little Gorgo,

1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:27.800
<v Speaker 2>which nobody is actually doing.

1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:31.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like Sam suggested before this all started, Sam was right.

1:21:31.760 --> 1:21:35.160
<v Speaker 3>Sam was right. Uh, so they've got this plan. You know,

1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:37.880
<v Speaker 3>we get a lot of moralizing from the radio reporters

1:21:37.920 --> 1:21:42.240
<v Speaker 3>talking about, you know, the wire all the electricity of

1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>London has been redirected to the wires to this animal

1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:48.599
<v Speaker 3>small enclosure. Will it be enough? Will it be enough

1:21:48.600 --> 1:21:51.439
<v Speaker 3>to stop this huge beast? Where will the miracle be

1:21:51.479 --> 1:21:54.479
<v Speaker 3>granted or will it be yet another of man's puny

1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:58.440
<v Speaker 3>efforts to oppose this irresistible force of ancient nature.

1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Probably the male, the miracle of keeping this mother monster

1:22:03.240 --> 1:22:06.960
<v Speaker 2>from her young Yeah, and like in a way, I mean,

1:22:07.000 --> 1:22:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's it's a rather effective part of the

1:22:10.080 --> 1:22:13.720
<v Speaker 2>film here, because it's like just do the the the

1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>answer is right there in front of you, Like, why

1:22:17.800 --> 1:22:20.320
<v Speaker 2>don't you do that? Release the monster? Why like this

1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:26.799
<v Speaker 2>this desperate, uh you know, egotistical desire to defeat nature

1:22:26.920 --> 1:22:29.439
<v Speaker 2>instead of like bending at least a little bit to

1:22:29.560 --> 1:22:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it here, and instead they're just going to invite absolute destruction.

1:22:33.400 --> 1:22:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Rob You're you're not understanding. Dorkin would lose some money.

1:22:37.280 --> 1:22:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's right, because on top of the tickets,

1:22:39.040 --> 1:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the concessions alone, like he was banking on that.

1:22:42.280 --> 1:22:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, all right. So in the end, mother Gorgo

1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:49.400
<v Speaker 3>she makes it through. She rescues her baby, and Gorgo

1:22:49.479 --> 1:22:52.439
<v Speaker 3>and Mother Gorgo they trek back out to the ocean.

1:22:52.479 --> 1:22:55.200
<v Speaker 3>They get in the water and they start swimming away,

1:22:55.720 --> 1:23:01.520
<v Speaker 3>and we get the more of the like crazy commentary

1:23:01.600 --> 1:23:04.839
<v Speaker 3>from the radio reporter saying we've prayed for a miracle.

1:23:05.160 --> 1:23:07.559
<v Speaker 3>Maybe our prayers have been answered. It's this speech that

1:23:07.640 --> 1:23:10.880
<v Speaker 3>goes on for a long time. He's saying in the

1:23:11.000 --> 1:23:14.439
<v Speaker 3>end she turns with her young, leaving the prostrate city,

1:23:14.520 --> 1:23:17.400
<v Speaker 3>leaving the haunts of Man, and leaving Man himself to

1:23:17.479 --> 1:23:20.720
<v Speaker 3>ponder the proud boast that he alone is lord of

1:23:20.760 --> 1:23:24.519
<v Speaker 3>all creation. It is a very he tampered in God's

1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:25.840
<v Speaker 3>domain kind of ending.

1:23:26.400 --> 1:23:26.559
<v Speaker 4>Yea.

1:23:28.000 --> 1:23:29.760
<v Speaker 3>And then we see in the end, actually they give

1:23:29.800 --> 1:23:33.240
<v Speaker 3>the last word to Sean, the child who who's watching

1:23:33.280 --> 1:23:36.559
<v Speaker 3>the creatures leave, and Sean says, you're going back now,

1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:39.599
<v Speaker 3>back to the sea. And I do have to say

1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:41.720
<v Speaker 3>in the final shot where they're showing Gorgo and mother

1:23:41.800 --> 1:23:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Gorgo going back into the water, they make little Gorgo

1:23:44.680 --> 1:23:47.000
<v Speaker 3>look really tiny in comparison.

1:23:47.520 --> 1:23:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:23:47.880 --> 1:23:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it kind of drives home the obscenity of the

1:23:50.840 --> 1:23:53.960
<v Speaker 2>whole act of keeping this creature hostage.

1:23:54.320 --> 1:23:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So that's the end of Gorgo Pity the Monster.

1:23:58.840 --> 1:24:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know, it's reflecting back on it more here.

1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it. It does have a strong message

1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:09.639
<v Speaker 2>that it's trying to drive home. And yeah, you can't

1:24:09.680 --> 1:24:13.320
<v Speaker 2>help but wonder if this too might have had an

1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:16.200
<v Speaker 2>impact on the Star. You know, this might have like

1:24:16.520 --> 1:24:20.840
<v Speaker 2>laid some of the groundwork for Bill Traver's later involvement

1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>in Animal rights activism. I mean, not officially, but but

1:24:25.800 --> 1:24:28.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit in addition to born Free.

1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:32.599
<v Speaker 3>So that's a final verdict. I think Gorgo is a

1:24:32.600 --> 1:24:36.479
<v Speaker 3>tremendously enjoyable movie. It's, of course, as I said in

1:24:36.520 --> 1:24:39.839
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, funny and very concept funny in some elements

1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:43.479
<v Speaker 3>of execution, quite strong in other elements of execution. So

1:24:43.600 --> 1:24:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a fairly good entry in the giant

1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:50.160
<v Speaker 3>monster movie Cannon. You know, it's not quite your on

1:24:50.200 --> 1:24:53.080
<v Speaker 3>the level of like your original Godzilla and stuff like that,

1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:56.479
<v Speaker 3>but of the sort of mid level big monsters. It's

1:24:57.160 --> 1:24:58.439
<v Speaker 3>it's one of the better ones. I think.

1:24:58.880 --> 1:25:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you think they could come back and do a

1:25:00.800 --> 1:25:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Shin Gorgo Gorgo movie inspired by Shin Godzilla.

1:25:06.280 --> 1:25:09.040
<v Speaker 3>That where half of it is like the British Navy

1:25:09.080 --> 1:25:12.240
<v Speaker 3>having meetings and then having meetings about other meetings that

1:25:12.280 --> 1:25:13.280
<v Speaker 3>should be organized.

1:25:13.560 --> 1:25:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we didn't get enough meetings in this film about

1:25:16.160 --> 1:25:20.680
<v Speaker 2>relations with Ireland, about about Gorgo rights, who has the

1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>rights to the monster, and the exporting of the monster

1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and so forth. A lot that could be done there.

1:25:29.360 --> 1:25:31.920
<v Speaker 3>For listeners who don't recall and the pat We're big

1:25:31.920 --> 1:25:35.599
<v Speaker 3>fans of Shin Godzilla. I haven't seen the more recent one,

1:25:35.640 --> 1:25:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Godzilla minus one, but I've been hearing very good things

1:25:38.360 --> 1:25:38.800
<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same, same. So it's a reminder that even though

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<v Speaker 2>the giant monster movie, you know, we think of it

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<v Speaker 2>as being just very formulaic, and if you've seen one,

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen them all, and that everything that could be

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<v Speaker 2>done has been done and the only upgrade you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get are going to be effects based, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the case. Like clearly, there are still interesting

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<v Speaker 2>stories to tell with giant monsters, and they keep coming,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say that's wonderful. I'm all for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here here all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we're going to go ahead and close the book

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<v Speaker 2>on Gorgo here, but we'd love to hear from you

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