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Speaker 2: All right, don't Joe check us out?
Speaker 1: The Patriots have hired Mike Bravel as the next head coach.
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft will replace one of his former players with
Speaker 1: another and hope to improve the real results. Brabel is
Speaker 1: the first coach since nineteen fifty to directly succeed another
Speaker 1: coach where both played together in the NFL as teammates.
Speaker 1: Since bars Greg took over for Bart Star as the
Speaker 1: Packers head coach in nineteen eighty four, there might be
Speaker 1: a possibility to bring Josh McDaniels back as offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Considering that Josh, before we talk about Mike Brabel, it
Speaker 1: seems to me the only place Johsh McDaniels can have
Speaker 1: success is in New England. Wait a minute, we'll stop
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 4: The only place Josh mcdanie could have success is in
Speaker 4: New England when he has Tom Brady at the helm.
Speaker 1: Well, he did go to the playoffs when he had
Speaker 1: a Matt Jones. Remember Matt Jones' rookie year he had
Speaker 1: make that went ten and six. Then he goes to
Speaker 1: remember he goes to the Raiders, he gets the Raiders job.
Speaker 1: Coach Belichick had this brilliant idea that I think Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien was the coach for one year, and then Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien leaves, and then he has two of his slappy
Speaker 1: homies come in there, Matt Patricia and Joe Judge, guys
Speaker 1: that have never called him offensive play at all their life.
Speaker 2: One of the special teams coach. The other is a DC.
Speaker 1: And you know what our first round draft pick as
Speaker 1: a quarterback that made the Pro Bowl as a rookie,
Speaker 1: that ended up taking us to the playoffs. We want
Speaker 1: to have two guys in his ear that's never ever
Speaker 1: called him offensive play?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: For me, I'm disappointed that mister Craft did not give
Speaker 1: Gerardmeo more time. Might be interesting to see if Brabel
Speaker 1: struggles and not have a great record. The likelihood of
Speaker 1: him moving on with Brabel after year is not very likely. Now,
Speaker 1: everybody else that mister Craft has had not grated. He
Speaker 1: had coach Belichick from two thousand until twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: right to twenty four. But coach Belichick was five and eleven.
Speaker 1: He got another, he got it the great Beard next year.
Speaker 1: We know what happened to when the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: they take off. But do you like the higher of
Speaker 1: Mike Brabel? I mean I like it. I like it,
Speaker 1: but I don't see much changing. I don't see much changing.
Speaker 4: Depending on how the draft go, depending on what they
Speaker 4: getting cre agency, then you get some pieces in there
Speaker 4: that can help defensively, that can help offensively, things might change.
Speaker 1: But I don't see.
Speaker 4: It to be a quick turnaround that fast. I've never
Speaker 4: seen the team turn around that fast. The quarterback position, obviously,
Speaker 4: Drake may is good. He showed flashes of brilliance. Then
Speaker 4: he's had some luss. Obviously, you get that with a
Speaker 4: rookie quarterback. Depending on his growth and how much better
Speaker 4: he gets from from now to the next season.
Speaker 1: Then I think things will be okay for them.
Speaker 4: But I don't see him making that kind of jump
Speaker 4: where he just the dynamic of that team in general,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they turn it around and
Speaker 4: win ten eleven some games.
Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: But if they do, if they do have a lot
Speaker 4: of season again, the least for Rabel will be much
Speaker 4: longer than the least for Drawn Mayo.
Speaker 1: Buffalo's in that division. They're not going anywhere any time soon.
Speaker 1: They got a quarterback Josh Allen can't be beat no
Speaker 1: more than what twenty seven to twenty eight years of age.
Speaker 2: They got a young team.
Speaker 1: They got James Cook, young receivers, young talented tight ends,
Speaker 1: good offensive line, they got some pretty good pass rushing.
Speaker 1: They got Ed Oliver, they got Russou. So you know,
Speaker 1: vonn is a little long.
Speaker 2: In the two.
Speaker 1: Matt Mlone came back, made some impact players today. I
Speaker 1: think they can get a little better at the corner
Speaker 1: position with Buffalo. I think that's something maybe they're looking
Speaker 1: to maybe get another pass rush or something like that,
Speaker 1: maybe a fucking lineback or range or safety that can take.
Speaker 2: The ball away.
Speaker 1: But Buffalo ain't going anywhere because they got that seventeen
Speaker 1: back there, so they're gonna be they go, They're gonna be.
Speaker 2: There for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But listen, listen, listen. Drink drink made is good though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, listen some of
Speaker 4: the flashes you know I've seen from him. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: the Patrios, the Patriots got them one, now, okay, but
Speaker 4: then it's like, what God, you can't do that.
Speaker 2: They're gonna leave them?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely. It's definitely he's not
Speaker 1: a He's not a CJ. Shroud. He's not a Jaydon Davis. No,
Speaker 1: he not there yet.
Speaker 4: You know, changing the dynamic of your franchise and offense
Speaker 4: at the staff of the figure with your player.
Speaker 1: And get him him, get some wide receiver, get some players,
Speaker 1: because what what C. J. Stroud had is they had
Speaker 1: Tank Dale, he had Nico Collins, he had a Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: he had They get Dalton Jogency, so they need that.
Speaker 1: They had a solid offensive line. The offensive line was
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 2: First year.
Speaker 1: They weren't so good this year. Uh Thompson. If I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, I think Tompson made the pro bow last year.
Speaker 1: I don't think he made it this year. He got
Speaker 1: nicked up defensively. Uh they were, they were really good.
Speaker 1: But I like Drake May. But their look, oh cho,
Speaker 1: they got one hundred and thirty million dollars in cap space.
Speaker 2: I ain T Higgins.
Speaker 1: I'm calling T Higgins the hey cause you know, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: you got that what they call that, that window with
Speaker 1: which you could like Tampa, the Tampa window.
Speaker 2: I'm tampering. Hey, we got right down.
Speaker 1: We got five years, one hundred and sixty million dollars
Speaker 1: for Tea Higgins. We got eighty We got probably seventy
Speaker 1: five to eighty million dollars guarant fully guaranteed. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put the pressure on.
Speaker 4: Them six year, six year, twenty million, ninety guaranteed.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna go back because because
Speaker 1: because here's the thing, what.
Speaker 4: Do they do agency They're gonna overpay.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I know, the more you
Speaker 1: give T, the more you gonna have to pay Jamar.
Speaker 1: So if you give T six years to two f
Speaker 1: T get a So he's gonna come back with that
Speaker 1: to the bagels. So if you give t Higgins fake
Speaker 1: for two for two hundred, once you gotta give Chase,
Speaker 1: he's gonna want Joe Burrow money. You got that boy,
Speaker 1: you deserve. He deserves you what he deserved. Do you
Speaker 1: got it? It ain't my part. Listen if I had it,
Speaker 1: If I had it, he would have been paid last year.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't listen.
Speaker 4: If it was me, he wouldn't even win into this
Speaker 4: season without a bag Because I know it. I know
Speaker 4: what you're gonna give me. I know what it looked like.
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna question myself. Yeah, blackfold, Well how
Speaker 4: much you want?
Speaker 1: Matter of fact? Matter of fact, yes, Jamal, matter of fact.
Speaker 1: Here you take the check, I'm gonna leave it.
Speaker 4: Blame you put what you want on them because I
Speaker 4: know what I thought you're gonna give me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1: That's why I couldn't be I couldn't be no owner.
Speaker 1: But me O.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: You said something very interested the first time you said
Speaker 1: it's not your money.
Speaker 2: When it comes to your money, you a lot more
Speaker 2: thrifty with is your money?
Speaker 1: Like when you buy a car, would you buy a
Speaker 1: high would you do all the stuff? Hey? Hey, when
Speaker 1: somebody say, hey, you know this is on us, Hey,
Speaker 1: first class, make sure we do depth to one. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know we got this car service picking us up ay.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, hey you hey, I got
Speaker 1: got the two airline ticket. They taking care of it.
Speaker 1: So it's easy to say that now, But what it's
Speaker 1: your money? Like, how about you want Oh no, we're not.
Speaker 4: Gonna be but listen, listen, and now look, they're thirty
Speaker 4: two teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Yes, three people on every team. Hey, Chad, listen to me.
Speaker 4: Now there are three people on every team you go through,
Speaker 4: you go through it on maybe maybe on both sides
Speaker 4: of the ball. Then you could give them a blank
Speaker 4: check and you won't blink twice if you were to say,
Speaker 4: you know what, you write the numbers on there.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want you can have. Now I'm just speaking
Speaker 1: hypothetically based on the type of reduction they're gonna give you.
Speaker 4: We can and week out no matter what, and you
Speaker 4: don't even have to you don't even have to ask
Speaker 4: no questions. You know what you're gonna get, and Chase
Speaker 4: is one of them. Lamar Jackson is one of them.
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is one of them. Joe Burrow is one
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 1: You keep going down the list this matter.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe three, sometime two, maybe one on the team
Speaker 4: on one on either offensive defense, but he in blank check.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want, corn head and write it on.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: As much as I would love Fatigue to go back
Speaker 1: the money that it's gonna cost you, you need to
Speaker 1: get a couple of defensive players or you're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the same spot that you were last year. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: so the question is would you rather have get Hendrickson
Speaker 1: back and get you a corner, have Henderson back, compare
Speaker 1: with another defensive lineman, right, Because it doesn't matter. It's
Speaker 1: been proven. You got a triple Crown winner and you
Speaker 1: got to lead guy, led the league in passing yards
Speaker 1: and passing touchdowns, and you missed the playoffs because, like
Speaker 1: you said, your defense early on let him down in
Speaker 1: a lot of those games. If you do what you've
Speaker 1: always done, you'll get what you've always got. So at
Speaker 1: some point in time, you got to stop somebody because
Speaker 1: it puts so much pressure on your offense to be
Speaker 1: perfect every game, every down, every.
Speaker 2: Possession, one slip up.
Speaker 1: And so for me, if I if I'm looking, if
Speaker 1: I'm the general manager, as much as I love to
Speaker 1: have tea, I've got to spend that. I've got to
Speaker 1: take that thirty to thirty three million dollars, and I
Speaker 1: got to put it on the defensive side of the
Speaker 1: football because because I believe that even if I don't
Speaker 1: have a trip or cross jet Jamar Chase is gonna
Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl for the foreseeper future. So
Speaker 1: what he doesn't have one twenty seven seventeen hundred, Let's
Speaker 1: just say for the sake of Bargo show, he gets
Speaker 1: for fourteen hundred, right, Joe, instead of throwing for forty touchdowns,
Speaker 1: he throws for thirty five thirty six.
Speaker 2: But your defense allows seven few points per game, right.
Speaker 1: And this? And that makes it difference? Yeah, what makes it?
Speaker 4: That makes a difference on the back end, you know,
Speaker 4: and then it increases your chances also of being in
Speaker 4: the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And that's it, because you know, Joe gets to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He's been there before. He's very comfortable. This team has
Speaker 1: been there, especially the core guys, Chase Burrow. A couple
Speaker 1: of those offens, I think maybe one or two of
Speaker 1: those offensive line would have been there. So hey, you
Speaker 1: got a core structure. But at some point time, won't
Speaker 1: you You got to stop somebody. You got to stop somebody.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't keep losing games forty one, thirty eight, forty five,
Speaker 1: forty one, yeah, thirty four, twenty thirty four to thirty one.
Speaker 1: You can't keep losing ball games like that. And you
Speaker 1: see your quarterback have one turnover with four touchdowns and
Speaker 1: you lose the game because that one mistake because your
Speaker 1: defense he stuting about it. So that's that's just me.
Speaker 1: But Mike Brabel is the new head coach of the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. He replaces a former team. Did they
Speaker 1: play they play together? Yeah, they played together, drawd Mao
Speaker 1: who was fired after one season. Mike Brabel out of
Speaker 1: work for one year five as a home a team
Speaker 1: that he won three championships with. And uh, people forgetting that.
Speaker 2: Mike Brabel started in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Ohow yeah, Linebash started in Pittsburgh, went to uh, Kansas City,
Speaker 1: not Kansasity, went to New England, and his last couple
Speaker 1: of years, if I'm not mistaken, he was in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Huh Okay. One year in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh, Joe, Mark Davis was not interested in high
Speaker 1: and brabel for the Raiders, given past failures of high
Speaker 1: end products out of New England. Yeah, uh, look, Bravel,
Speaker 1: I think his first year or second year he took
Speaker 1: he took the Titans to the NFC Championship game. Excuse
Speaker 1: the AFC against New England because remember they they ended
Speaker 1: up they ended up losing ojo u and they had
Speaker 1: a ten up to lead, and then and and the uh,
Speaker 1: the Patriots came the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I keep saying Patriots.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs came back because at one point they were
Speaker 1: down in the divisional round, remember down twenty four points
Speaker 1: to cancer to uh the Texans, and they go on
Speaker 1: this this business and just blitz them and they end
Speaker 1: up winning the game like fifty one thirty one. And
Speaker 1: then the next week they fall behind ten nothing and
Speaker 1: then my homeboys with that magic.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: So uh, but he said, Mark Davis was not interested
Speaker 1: in high and brabel for the Raiders given the past failures.
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels Dave Ziggler two years ago.
Speaker 1: So we hired those guys and I think the biggest
Speaker 1: mistake from guys that have built around the coaches that
Speaker 1: come out of that Coach Belichick tree is that you
Speaker 1: try too hard to be coach Belichick. Yeah, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't I don't believe
Speaker 1: that's Brabel.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's enough.
Speaker 1: But I know guys that played for a lot of
Speaker 1: the other guys, and that's that's.
Speaker 2: That's what I hear.
Speaker 1: Right, I think it's gonna be alright. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be fine.
Speaker 4: As far as far as Mark Davis, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: that the job, the rate of job isn't that isn't
Speaker 4: that nice to be in with, don't know. It ain't
Speaker 4: like people knocking down the door to come coach there,
Speaker 4: So it would even come out and say anything about
Speaker 4: I saw something saying Dion, you know, not even okay,
Speaker 4: Brabel is not even what who I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm sure Bravery.
Speaker 1: Look, he probably would have taken the job if there's
Speaker 1: nothing else available, But I'm not really taking no job
Speaker 1: without a quarterback because I know, I know my tenure
Speaker 1: isn't going to be long if I don't have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: So why even waste your time? Why even waste your time?
Speaker 4: Is that opportunity to be a head coached but certain
Speaker 4: people is going to going to come right for certain people, those.
Speaker 1: Opportunities are going to continue to come. But see the
Speaker 1: thing is what Mark Davis. Mark Davis is like he's thinking.
Speaker 1: But Brabel never coached. He played under coach Belichick. Mike
Speaker 1: Brabel started coaching as the linebacker coach at Ohio State,
Speaker 1: then he got to then he was in at Houston,
Speaker 1: and if you remember, Bill O'Brien demoted Romeo Carenale elevated
Speaker 1: Mike Brabel because it would look better as brave well
Speaker 1: as the DC to get a head coaching job. Then
Speaker 1: when Brabel got the job at Tennessee, he reaped high promoter,
Speaker 1: promoted Romeo to DC. So Brabel never coached under coach Belichick. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously he knows the type of locker room and the
Speaker 1: type of ship that coach Belichick ran. And I was
Speaker 1: reading some cultes where he said he the locker room,
Speaker 1: everybody cared about each other. The most important thing was
Speaker 1: to win, and that's what you have to have. To win,
Speaker 1: and teams that win, and teams that win consistently, that's
Speaker 1: the I believe that's the over Yes, you gotta have talent,
Speaker 1: but everybody got talent. Now there's the varying degrees of
Speaker 1: where your talent is located. Oh Joe, but everybody has talent.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't get to this. Everybody that's in
Speaker 1: the league is talented. Obviously there are players that are
Speaker 1: more talented to others, but everybody has to a certain
Speaker 1: degree a certain level of talent. But that's what I
Speaker 1: will agree with Brabel is that when guys are unselfish
Speaker 1: and guys care about one another, those are the teams
Speaker 1: that normally win, and they win consistently. So it's going
Speaker 1: to be very interesting to see how this thing pans
Speaker 1: out for Mike Rabel because he got his work cut
Speaker 1: out for him. But he does have a quarterback that
Speaker 1: they drafted last year and they got one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty million.
Speaker 2: Dollars in space.
Speaker 1: Charge of safety Darwin James said, Justin Herbert doesn't deserve
Speaker 1: the hate he's receiving.
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen, O Joe, Man, we don't deserve it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: Like I said, man ten, you know who want't be
Speaker 5: in this position without him? You know, in this season,
Speaker 5: I feel like every game. He's given up giving us
Speaker 5: a chance to be in these games.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: And like I said, man, I don't ready have no
Speaker 2: other quarterback.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: I love him as a player, as a Bronther, and
Speaker 5: I know he gonna work his tail off next season
Speaker 5: and I can't win be right there with him.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, do you agree, sir?
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Darwin has to say all the right things.
Speaker 4: Darwin has to say that obviously to be in a
Speaker 4: position that they are in. You know, the quarterback is responsible.
Speaker 4: You know, when you win, quarterback keep the credit. When
Speaker 4: they lose, the quarterback is the reason why they lose.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't get the play, O Joe, you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't say.
Speaker 1: If you can't say what a quarterback wins, he gets
Speaker 1: the credit, but if they lose, he gets none of
Speaker 1: the blame. I don't believe it's hate. I believe it's criticism.
Speaker 1: I believe the criticism was warranted. Oh Joe, how in
Speaker 1: five hundred plus passes you throw three interceptions and thirty
Speaker 1: two class passes yesterday you throw four. You don't think
Speaker 1: he deserved to be criticized. You see it again, Nobody
Speaker 1: everybody wants praise. Nobody wants criticism, right, But I've never
Speaker 1: heard when have you ever heard the player say, man,
Speaker 1: look at man Oho. Y'all praising that man, y'all praising
Speaker 1: that quarterback too much, y'all. Craizy not running back too much?
Speaker 1: The wide receiver, you give him too much praise O Joe.
Speaker 1: But the minute you say, bro, you gotta make that play.
Speaker 1: You gotta get in your break. You can't give him
Speaker 1: up on that route. You gotta hustle man, Oh jo
Speaker 1: hate Nah.
Speaker 4: Listen, you know what Derwin didn't just come up, come
Speaker 4: come out to do with that question? The question was
Speaker 4: asked by because of the because of the scrutiny, because
Speaker 4: of the criticism he was he was he was facing
Speaker 4: because of For me.
Speaker 2: If Lamar throws, if Lamar throws it, let me ask
Speaker 2: your question.
Speaker 1: If Lamar throws four interceptions against Buffalo, will he be criticized,
Speaker 1: yes or no? What criticized? He be crucified?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: It's bettering the man through four interceptions all year, So
Speaker 1: he throws four in one game, and we're supposed to
Speaker 1: overlook that crucified, not criticized as a difference.
Speaker 2: Hey, when that turned the ball at four times, what
Speaker 2: do we do.
Speaker 1: Crucified. So I'm just trying to figure out, are we
Speaker 1: not supposed to criticize the player the quarter in regard
Speaker 1: forgetting the position?
Speaker 2: O Joe, It's like a dB.
Speaker 1: You give up four touchdowns, We're not supposed to say, bro,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Are we gonna talk about you?
Speaker 2: Now? You should?
Speaker 1: I'm to give up four sides, George Pikett dropping four passes?
Speaker 2: Are we not supposed to point that out? Right?
Speaker 4: But you gotta understand, this is his teammate. He gonna
Speaker 4: say the right thing. Remember what you remember? Remember that
Speaker 4: I told you when we talked about George Piggy's about
Speaker 4: being honest, right instead of being PC. Now, Derwin James
Speaker 4: obviously is going to say all the right things, and
Speaker 4: he's going to say all the right things in front
Speaker 4: of the camera.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: But you understand one of the reasons why you are
Speaker 4: home and you're not continuing into the playoffs is because
Speaker 4: of your quarterback performance. You know that in the back
Speaker 4: of your mind, but you don't say it in front
Speaker 4: of the camera.
Speaker 2: You just don't.
Speaker 1: My thing is, I don't have a problem with him defending,
Speaker 1: but I don't believe it's hate.
Speaker 2: I believe it's criticism and it's justified. Right.
Speaker 4: Also, you have to understand the error we're in. You
Speaker 4: have to understand society, criticism is seen as hate.
Speaker 1: Truth is absolutely hate. Yeah, bron fit of me? Ah,
Speaker 1: you hate exactly, bro? Yeah and sometimes yes yes. But look,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with you. The only problem
Speaker 1: is the choice of word that Derwin chose to use.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: I love the fact and you're supposed to stick up
Speaker 1: for your teammate, and he's right, justin Herbert played really
Speaker 1: well this season.
Speaker 2: He did that wasn't the case yesterday.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I love about sports, O Joe,
Speaker 1: is because it's game the game, it's update your resume,
Speaker 1: even though you can be as credential as you are
Speaker 1: and Pat and hey, it got me off. One of
Speaker 1: the shows on Fox, Tom Brady was a seven time champion.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady wasn't playing well in those games, and the
Speaker 1: fans knew it, and all I was saying, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take anything away from Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: What Tom Brady did prior to this game and has
Speaker 1: no bearing on this game. Tom turned the ball over twice.
Speaker 1: Tom was less than fifty percent completion. That's what we
Speaker 1: have to talk about. This is not lifetime achievement. Now,
Speaker 1: if we want to do a lifetime achievement, the NFL
Speaker 1: said lifetime achievement war goes to Tom Brady seven Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: He went to ten, and y'alla and y'all, so be it.
Speaker 1: That's not the time for me to bring up a
Speaker 1: game in which you threw four picks. This is a
Speaker 1: lifetime achievement. But when we're evaluating game to game, and
Speaker 1: that's what we do. When you didn't say that last week,
Speaker 1: so what was I supposed to say? That got through
Speaker 1: for five hundred yards and five touchdowns they won. Wor's
Speaker 1: the criticism in that? But when he doesn't play well,
Speaker 1: we talk about it and that's what we try to do.
Speaker 1: And people don't understand. People don't. Look, that's not what
Speaker 1: you said. Look, when you get information, when you get
Speaker 1: better information, you're better to evaluate. When you can do better,
Speaker 1: you do better. When you know better, you say better.
Speaker 1: So what Derwin James is well within his right. I
Speaker 1: don't believe it was hate because when I think of people,
Speaker 1: I don't think people really hate Justin Herbert. But I
Speaker 1: do believe the criticism now, some of the criticism that
Speaker 1: Lamar has received. But see when they start talking about
Speaker 1: you know where you don't say this about that. I
Speaker 1: know I'm being fair because they tell me, o Jo, well,
Speaker 1: you don't say that about white quarterback, and then they
Speaker 1: tell me I want to say this about black quarterback.
Speaker 1: So if I'm getting it on both sides, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure I'm right down in the middle. As long as
Speaker 1: it's not what on the other it's both, I can
Speaker 1: deal with that. Yeah, But listen, it would be hard.
Speaker 4: It would be very hard, especially in today's era and
Speaker 4: the younger generation. They're not gonna be able to separate
Speaker 4: the two. They're not gonna be able to separate them
Speaker 4: to them from the hate. Anytime you say anything that
Speaker 4: is not in favor of their play and how they're
Speaker 4: playing or what they're doing, it's going to be seen
Speaker 4: as hate. No matter how many times you say.
Speaker 1: Here you can sit there and explain it to you
Speaker 1: blewe in the flace.
Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about players in today's game,
Speaker 4: they're going to view it as hate no matter what.
Speaker 1: Even if you are critiquing just what happens to me,
Speaker 1: e Jo, what happened to the word constructive criticism even
Speaker 1: though its criticism you use it. We're trying to explain
Speaker 1: to you what you did wrong. Everything can if I
Speaker 1: just praise you, even even if you're wrong. My Grandfa
Speaker 1: used to always tell us, like, boy, I never reward
Speaker 1: negative behavior. So when the child is acted up, you
Speaker 1: don't give the child candy. You don't tell the child
Speaker 1: to go pick out a toy. My grandma said, boy,
Speaker 1: wherever you show up, wherever you show a you get woe.
Speaker 2: WHI right there?
Speaker 1: Now, you say, my grandhaart to yeah, okay, Now, if
Speaker 1: you play good, I'm gonna say you played good. Right,
Speaker 1: But how am I gonna look because people, oh, your
Speaker 1: other position that we're in, they're gonna hear everything that
Speaker 1: we say. So if you play bad, I've got to
Speaker 1: say that you played bad, you didn't play good.
Speaker 2: It's not personal. Everybody think.
Speaker 1: Now, if I say a guy didn't say out of
Speaker 1: this like, bro, I don't know you enough to dislike.
Speaker 1: You've never done anything to me, right, so there's nothing
Speaker 1: to dislike. But I think with my tra and I
Speaker 1: having played the game an extended period of time, having
Speaker 1: studied the game, having watched the game, I think I
Speaker 1: can fairly evaluate what I saw on the field without
Speaker 1: making it personal. Am I passionate about it? And I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing. People take my passion with hate.
Speaker 1: You know, not only your passion, but your delivery as well. Yes, delivery,
Speaker 1: you know, delivery. It is it come.
Speaker 4: Off like ain't God damn? You know, so I kind
Speaker 4: of understand. I kind of understand where they coming from.
Speaker 1: But I just say the thing is like Derwin, like,
Speaker 1: I love that you standing up for your teammate, and
Speaker 1: rightfully so. But I was just say the hate criticism, yeah,
Speaker 1: christicism a little hard. But I can understand that we
Speaker 1: didn't play well. It wasn't just on him. We didn't
Speaker 1: play well. We didn't play well on my end. That's
Speaker 1: my thing. Was like, you know, hey, John had a
Speaker 1: tough guy. Yeah, but we got to help him out.
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't it didn't help that we had
Speaker 1: three or four drops. It didn't have It didn't help
Speaker 1: that we missed a couple of blitz pickups and forced
Speaker 1: them into a situation. Yeah we gotta help. Hey, if
Speaker 1: we still on the field a little longer, hey, maybe
Speaker 1: I defense get an opportunity to rest instead of you know,
Speaker 1: being on the field or extending period of time. There's
Speaker 1: a way to say it that I get. Look, I get,
Speaker 1: and like I said, I think now there's a because
Speaker 1: there's so many O yo, there's so many sites. Everybody
Speaker 1: has an opinion now and guess what. I can go
Speaker 1: on your page and leave a comment, Oh Joe, you suck,
Speaker 1: you dropped five passes and talk about you the best.
Speaker 1: Whereas before, O Joe, we didn't hear we we really
Speaker 1: didn't hear no outside noise.
Speaker 2: It was only what they wrote.
Speaker 1: Maybe when you got into an opposing stadium you got
Speaker 1: bulled in that. Oh Joe, you terrible, You suck. You're
Speaker 1: not better than Oh you're not better than t O,
Speaker 1: You're not better than Moss. But now, oh you inundated
Speaker 1: with that? Yes, yes, absolutely, cause football sports pro sports
Speaker 1: have become twenty four hours, three sixty five and everybody's
Speaker 1: on social media and for the most part, even if
Speaker 1: they don't follow you. Oh you're on Oh oh you're
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Okay, let me go leave this comment. Oh
Speaker 1: he on ig Let me go leave another comment. Oh
Speaker 1: he on Facebook too, Let me try to message you.
Speaker 1: He might not see ay, they might not can see it.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna message you anyway to let him know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you still suck Ojo Jay.
Speaker 4: Just a thought, just a thought as a fan knowing
Speaker 4: that I can reach you.
Speaker 1: I might he might not.
Speaker 4: See it, but just the fact that I have access
Speaker 4: and there's a chance that you might see what I'm
Speaker 4: finished say on Finna let it rip.
Speaker 1: And even if he don't see it, guess what you
Speaker 1: got family, friends and loved ones that do see it.
Speaker 2: Man, you saw what they said about you, O Joe.
Speaker 1: Right, you heard what he's saying. Yeah, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: get it one way or another. If not everything, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get enough to Like, Man, what the hell, O Joe?
Speaker 1: Why they talk about you like this? Yeah? I wish
Speaker 1: I wish more players.
Speaker 4: I wish more players were like me and had my
Speaker 4: mentality when it comes to people saying things or people,
Speaker 4: you know, people being critical of their player whatever, maybe
Speaker 4: just even even in life in general, even life in general,
Speaker 4: Like I'm very accepting and welcoming of of of critiquing.
Speaker 1: I have no issue with it.
Speaker 4: I have no issue with it because you know, obviously
Speaker 4: when I was playing during that time, if it bothered
Speaker 4: me through the media, I was seen as the villain,
Speaker 4: and I continue to feed the what's the what's what's
Speaker 4: the word?
Speaker 1: I'm looking for.
Speaker 2: The narrative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I continue to feed the narrative. I refuse to change.
Speaker 1: I refuse to conform the NFL. You know, okay, we
Speaker 1: can't control them, so what do we need to do?
Speaker 1: You know, we need to take his money.
Speaker 4: So when they started taking my money, I want up them.
Speaker 4: I started sending to fine money in early I was
Speaker 4: it got to your point, like year six, I was
Speaker 4: sending the money to the league office a week in
Speaker 4: advance ahead of time, so you don't have to mayl
Speaker 4: me no FedEx letter, because.
Speaker 1: I just I just wouldn't conform. I wouldn't conform at all.
Speaker 1: And I wish players were able to take that critique
Speaker 1: in like when you when you when you got on
Speaker 1: me for some of the stuff. I did you notice
Speaker 1: I never said anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean I hear it. Oh I heard I heard it. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, next week, I'm haf something best
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: I think the thing, Joe is that social media.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want people to think that social media
Speaker 1: is all bad. Because social media is good.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. A lot of times social media
Speaker 1: can give people an opportunity to see you outside of
Speaker 1: what's being written and talked about you. They get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to see you for what you want to present
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, like Man, Man, I ain't
Speaker 1: know he was that funny, you know, he had that
Speaker 1: kind of personality. A lot of people like cause you
Speaker 1: see me on CBS, you saw me up there sitting
Speaker 1: at the desk, and they see a couple of slippets.
Speaker 1: But then I get to be on Undisputed and I
Speaker 1: really get to let my hair down, right man, And
Speaker 1: I think that relatability is what people like, kind of
Speaker 1: gravitated towards Man. He like my uncle. He talked just
Speaker 1: like he was at the cookout at the barbecue. We
Speaker 1: having to be in the barbecue at the barbershop. He's
Speaker 1: talking like that, just like we actually talk. But he
Speaker 1: on national television, I ain't no. Ay. Yeah. And so
Speaker 1: the social media aspect does have its pros and cons.
Speaker 1: But just like everything, you have to use it, it'll
Speaker 1: use you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Social media is very advantageous. Now.
Speaker 4: It could swallow you up. Yes, in DNBA if you
Speaker 4: have a weak mind. He not strong minded. You got
Speaker 4: to play. You got to learn to play the game.
Speaker 4: You got to learn to play the game. Yep, be
Speaker 4: all right, Like somebody said, whatever I'm drinking, what's Taylor
Speaker 4: port a wine?
Speaker 2: A cheap wine at that?
Speaker 1: It is very no, you know you like Morgan David.
Speaker 1: It ain't it ain't no, it ain't no u a protrude.
Speaker 1: It's not no roth Child, it's not no you know,
Speaker 1: no opus. Uh right, Kamus silver whatever a silver old.
Speaker 1: It ain't none of that.
Speaker 4: You see what this is, right, sparkling cider. And this
Speaker 4: ain't number half. I wasn't drinking nothing, man, This ain't
Speaker 4: number half of cider.
Speaker 2: Uh oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Speaking of social media, Cortall Patterson shave the Steelers on
Speaker 1: Instagram the snow since I can't judge the field. Patterson
Speaker 1: did not play a single offensive snap last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand it's frustration. Yeah, I understand it.
Speaker 4: What he was able to do in Atlanta, you know,
Speaker 4: understanding what he can do in Minnesota. In Minnesota more
Speaker 4: so on special teams, sometimes the backfield.
Speaker 1: But you got you got Najie Harris in front of you,
Speaker 1: so you're not taking carriage from him.
Speaker 4: You know, so your opportunities are gonna come few and
Speaker 4: very few. How do you say the same, few and
Speaker 4: far between, So you have to you have to make
Speaker 4: the most of those opportunities.
Speaker 1: And they just can't guess what it wasn't in between
Speaker 1: because they didn't.
Speaker 2: Come at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah too, for hell, they didn't use their best weapon.
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's who need, that's who should be complaining.
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. That game is over.
Speaker 4: But I feel for him though, I feel for him.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, check this out. Here's the Twitter question of
Speaker 2: a week.
Speaker 1: So if a female takes a man out, do he
Speaker 1: gotta give it up at the end of the night.
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4: I love now they're talking. I can bring me that
Speaker 4: hold on. I like that question. First off, who's paying? Well,
Speaker 4: the woman I'm assuming she invited the guy. Yeah, she's
Speaker 4: paid playing the bill?
Speaker 1: Is she paying?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: I like this. I like this now. Sometimes if you
Speaker 1: get an assertive woman, if you get an assertive woman
Speaker 1: that will paid the bill, she will let you know,
Speaker 1: no great area, no great area.
Speaker 4: When you have a woman that asks you out, When
Speaker 4: you have a woman that pays the bill. She's letting
Speaker 4: you know what time it is, you know what the
Speaker 4: play is right after this?
Speaker 1: Right, I didn't. I didn't come to play. And these
Speaker 1: ain't young folks. These ain't you hold on time?
Speaker 2: Let me get hold on time about talk to me?
Speaker 1: Were you're telling me that we'reen out there, that y'all
Speaker 1: can go out? Yeah, and you can get the buns
Speaker 1: on the first night.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The older women, I'm the older women now.
Speaker 4: I ain't talking about the young ones, the young ones
Speaker 4: that wants you to pay for everything, not them. I'm
Speaker 4: talking about the older women, the older women that are seasoned,
Speaker 4: the older women that are veterans, the older women that
Speaker 4: don't want to play games. I'm not need to play
Speaker 4: no games.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: I need to understand if I'm gonna deal with you
Speaker 4: long term or not. How do I know if I'm
Speaker 4: gonna deal with you? I need to know if when
Speaker 4: we lay down horizontally or vertically, have you want to
Speaker 4: do it. If it's good enough, you know what, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be around for a while. If it's not, I'm
Speaker 4: probably gonna answer your phone call no more. That's like,
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's light. Now I'm fifty seven. I'll
Speaker 4: tell you what I've been through. I'll tell you what
Speaker 4: I've been through. All right, now you get you get,
Speaker 4: you get some of these young whipper snappers I need today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all about what can you do for me?
Speaker 4: Buy me this, buy me that, get my nails, get
Speaker 4: my nails on my feet, in my head done?
Speaker 1: You know? Uh my wig, I need a new installed.
Speaker 1: That's different. It's all about what you can do. Then
Speaker 1: you really get nothing in return. You know, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about all of them because see here is the thing
Speaker 1: I got. I'm exo. I'm extremely, extremely care because this
Speaker 1: look no means no, maybe means no, yes, Na's no tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So I'm really really i I've damn be like, are
Speaker 1: you sure you should? Hey?
Speaker 2: Hold on, are you sure you feel killed? The movie?
Speaker 2: I'll kill me bout it? See you don't.
Speaker 4: You don't have to do That's why I see, that's
Speaker 4: why you don't have to do that with older women on.
Speaker 1: Forty forty five, you know, fifty five.
Speaker 4: Sometimes even sixty, huh hear me? They Yeah, what what sixty?
Speaker 4: What fear you playing it?
Speaker 1: At ball? Oh? Joe? The thing gil the sixty that's
Speaker 1: my that's that's that's a little older than me. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying they grew up in the air. They grew
Speaker 1: up in the air. They grew up in the Arab
Speaker 1: and I came up here. That's what that didn't happen. Uh,
Speaker 1: These these women evolved with the times. They didn't got
Speaker 1: time to play. They don't have time to play. That's
Speaker 1: what I understand. Listen to you, the young folk gonna
Speaker 1: listen to the young folk gonna waste your time, you
Speaker 1: know what. They're gonna waste your time because they have
Speaker 1: time to buy. They're young, they have time to wait. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: twenty I'm twenty five and I'm twenty What a rushing for?
Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, what a rushing for?
Speaker 4: Now you get to talk of the women. You're getting
Speaker 4: talking to women our age. They ain't got time to play.
Speaker 1: What I'm waiting two three weeks for? What I'm waiting
Speaker 1: a month for? What do I have? What do I
Speaker 1: even have a ninety day rule? For ninety days? I
Speaker 1: might not even be here. Damn, Listen, I'm.
Speaker 2: Trying to be.
Speaker 1: Is she like that that? I don't need to be
Speaker 1: bothered anyway? Doubt, but you hope it.
Speaker 2: Damn. I'm just you know how it is. You know
Speaker 2: how it is.
Speaker 4: Man, Listen, listen that their pros and call on their
Speaker 4: pros and call if you if you got time to
Speaker 4: waist and you want to play the game.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, that's that's the thing that got oh
Speaker 1: trying to perceive me.
Speaker 2: I don't even ask.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna you ain't gonna have to ask. No,
Speaker 1: hell no you know no no no no, no no no no, no,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta ask.
Speaker 2: So what you do? Can I come to you?
Speaker 1: Oh no, already think already think something up.
Speaker 6: Hey, you don't understand, man, Well I guess you get
Speaker 6: you get you one of the old ones.
Speaker 4: You me yea, she put she put that blind boat
Speaker 4: on you, put the sock in your mouth and you
Speaker 4: can't talk.
Speaker 1: Now. I can't give it that kind of control. The
Speaker 1: ain't no HANDCUF because I'll be put that whole headboard off. Hey, y'all, Hey,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you I spat that whole headboard.
Speaker 2: Bad, bad, please bad?
Speaker 1: He all.
Speaker 2: Hey, no, man, I don't I don't like being respect old.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hold on, let me tell you something. Now,
Speaker 4: see this, how this when I tell you. You're not living.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You not living.
Speaker 4: You gotta get your swing set, right, Yeah, tell Michelle
Speaker 4: to get your swing set.
Speaker 1: You tie it boom in the in the in the
Speaker 1: in the what do you call the doorway? What do
Speaker 1: you what do you call the doorway?
Speaker 2: The doorway?
Speaker 1: You tied it.
Speaker 4: You hang it up in the doorway. Yeah, you hang
Speaker 4: it up in the threshold. What you want to call it? Bingo,
Speaker 4: that's one called the little swing sets.
Speaker 1: You got to do that. Then bondage you get, you
Speaker 1: get the bonds.
Speaker 2: I don't even hold jo jo. I ain't gonna let
Speaker 2: that happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't let you give it. I can't let you
Speaker 2: get that out of control you got.
Speaker 1: You gotta let it tie you up.
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you see, man, God told man you Hey.
Speaker 1: Listen, she tied you up. Your legs, your legs be
Speaker 1: up right, but you can't move because they got the
Speaker 1: like a woman like aldo. You know, I got killing
Speaker 1: hold on, so you know I got kids. So they
Speaker 1: put you up in a stir.
Speaker 7: Oh dude, yeah, oh dude, hey listen, hey boy, I'm
Speaker 7: telling oh listen, wait, hey.
Speaker 1: Get your veteran now, Baddy comes out of there like, well, mister,
Speaker 1: show what happened that they head? Boy? Don't after bed
Speaker 1: out of sash? That yoke was smooth off mad Please.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I'm gonna see some videos, man, so you
Speaker 4: know you check you check the videos out and you
Speaker 4: just experiment. You experiment, you know you you you listen.
Speaker 4: You you're fifty seven. At some point you got to evolved.
Speaker 4: You got to try new things. There's so much out
Speaker 4: there that you haven't done yet. You might like it,
Speaker 4: that's the problem. Matter of fact, you ever been to
Speaker 4: the swing club?
Speaker 1: No, no swinging, man, I ain't even swing without the
Speaker 1: elementary school. I ain't playing on the swing set going
Speaker 1: on h oh.
Speaker 2: H hell to the doll man.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you hold him, Joe, nahd Daddy.
Speaker 2: That ain't for me. That ain't for me.
Speaker 1: Do you say you ain't swinging elementary school? No? I
Speaker 1: don't play. I don't do nothing, but that's winging. O.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I will take y'all word for I will
Speaker 2: take your word for it. O't yoe.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey man, we got we gotta go up to
Speaker 1: the d r man. You ain't got to worry about nothing.
Speaker 1: You know out there he'll be all right. Man. Oh,
Speaker 1: Joe Rapper, red Man, mething red Man, and he's to
Speaker 1: be a tandem rap group. Uh, saying he was selling
Speaker 1: but for two and a half years, no sex, no alcohol,
Speaker 1: so everything crystalized for so everything was so clear, and
Speaker 1: his oh, his head just opened up. I'm saying what
Speaker 1: he said, what.
Speaker 4: He said, saying it now what I will believe, Red Man,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't believe that you were sober. I could see
Speaker 4: the discipline in that area and not drinking, understanding that
Speaker 4: it can better you and Betty your life, Betty.
Speaker 1: Your decision making. Uh.
Speaker 4: As far as sex is concerned, I'm not sure how
Speaker 4: that would cloud judgment in any way or or or
Speaker 4: cause bodily harm in general. Because sex is is healthy
Speaker 4: for you, it's healthy for you.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't clear my mind, my mind to be so cloudy, Wright,
Speaker 1: But I got the free will it man, Mat I
Speaker 1: think be backed up in you. No, hey said, hey, listen, listen.
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm I'm still in my my selling feet,
Speaker 4: my celibacy journey.
Speaker 1: So I understand what he's saying.
Speaker 4: But the amount of time, how many years he said,
Speaker 4: two and a half years, see. That's that's now that
Speaker 4: I can't believe because I'm going let me see, she
Speaker 4: left me in October, October.
Speaker 6: October, November, Jane, January, so January. Yeah, that's listen.
Speaker 1: I'm struggling.
Speaker 2: I'm strung.
Speaker 1: I'm struggling.
Speaker 4: I ain't number two months in yeah, man, I'm struggling.
Speaker 4: So I'm trying two years. Hey, I'm two months and
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonaix weeks.
Speaker 1: I give you six weeks. Who I'll give somebody six weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship. I get you six weeks. We
Speaker 1: need some space, Okay, I look at I give you
Speaker 1: six weeks from to day right, six weeks from the
Speaker 1: day right? Hey, what happened if they don't come back
Speaker 1: after them six weeks? Hey, somebody black help?
Speaker 2: I gotta put black ham on somebody else?
Speaker 1: Should I Should I try that? Should I say that? No?
Speaker 4: No, hold on, I'm gonna try. But you know, but
Speaker 4: the problem is is that I'm gonna just say I
Speaker 4: got it from you. I'm gonna say that for me.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, that's a totally that's a total
Speaker 1: you re different situation, Huh. I confide in everything you say.
Speaker 1: You like the father figure to me. So basically, if
Speaker 1: it's it's been.
Speaker 4: Benty two months for me and I'm I'm Brian here
Speaker 4: being celebrated and you just said something that you done
Speaker 4: or you wouldn't do within the sixty time and I'm
Speaker 4: sitting around here waiting two months. Well just not really
Speaker 4: for that, but for me, it's it's giving me pieces,
Speaker 4: giving me a sense of a sense of calm, a
Speaker 4: sense of clarity. And I'm like, well, Ship, I need
Speaker 4: to stand on business. So boom you at, Well she
Speaker 4: didne she ain't getting no six weeks, I'm gonna give up,
Speaker 4: give her another week?
Speaker 1: Do you give me something another week? I'm going what
Speaker 1: she called? You called you the other night, you said
Speaker 1: you weren't going to get get none.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she trying, She tried,
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: I'm in a place in a position where you did
Speaker 4: something to me and you need to be you have
Speaker 4: to stand on business and I can't just giving my
Speaker 4: stuff up like that because I'm not easy.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense to you.
Speaker 1: I just think you're thinking, oh, Jordan, just all de paying.
Speaker 1: Look if that's something that you really want to work
Speaker 1: for if that's something that look because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, the longer one look, all I'm saying
Speaker 1: is all I'm saying is is that the longer your wait,
Speaker 1: the more likely something can creep in. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I happen to be out here. No six months,
Speaker 1: no year, no two years. You know hey, we say
Speaker 1: operated nah na right right, because you know, okay, So
Speaker 1: what what what what we try? What do we try
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 2: We need to go to counsel, We need to go
Speaker 2: to therapy together? What what do we need to do?
Speaker 2: How do we how do we? How do how do we?
Speaker 1: How do we come back together and to be at
Speaker 1: a more stronger union than we were? So this doesn't
Speaker 1: happen again because at the end of it, So what
Speaker 1: do what do you think it's gonna take? Do I
Speaker 1: need Do we need to go to therapy? Do we
Speaker 1: need do I need to go to therapy on my own?
Speaker 1: And we also go to couples therapy. So I've just
Speaker 1: tried to because I do want this to work, because
Speaker 1: I don't put so much time in it, so much energy,
Speaker 1: so much effort. Matter of fact, you believe in therapy.
Speaker 1: You think the works, A couple of counting works.
Speaker 4: Let's look at where's ash ash ash to look up
Speaker 4: this statistics on the percentage of therapy actually working, couple therapy,
Speaker 4: marriage therapy, counseling.
Speaker 1: I'm curious of what the percentage to be on those
Speaker 1: that actually work.
Speaker 2: For me, O Joe. I went in where I went
Speaker 2: in with an open mind. Oh so you did it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: O Joe.
Speaker 1: I don't know what people I've done it ain't no
Speaker 1: did it, I've done it. I was in therapy for
Speaker 1: a long time. I did therapy. I was doing I
Speaker 1: just stopped probably about a year ago, but I was
Speaker 1: doing therapy once a week for three hundred dollars a
Speaker 1: week for like three years. Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa real
Speaker 1: as shit back, The therapy is successful seventy percent of
Speaker 1: the time, seven out of ten. You gotta pay for it, Yes,
Speaker 1: what I'm paying you to listen to my profits? You
Speaker 1: and I paid it for you to give me an
Speaker 1: answer on the issues. I'm booked. Yes, oh, man, nigga please, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all think so. But I'll see her as
Speaker 1: the thing with Shannon Sharp. Everything Shannon Sharp is ever
Speaker 1: saying on television or on night cap can be proven
Speaker 1: or disproven. So y'all saying cap that don't bother me
Speaker 1: because I know firsthand. That's why I'm able to speak
Speaker 1: so freely and effortlessly about it, because I've been there
Speaker 1: when the therapist told me, Shannon, you're speaking y'all speaking
Speaker 1: two different languages.
Speaker 2: She's speaking Chinese and you're speaking Spanish.
Speaker 1: Unless you learn the others language, you're never gonna be
Speaker 1: able to communicate. Shannon, Are you arguing for right or
Speaker 1: you arguing to be right? I'm not telling you what
Speaker 1: somebody told me. I'm telling you as I'm sitting on
Speaker 1: that lady's couch. And she said, Shannon, would you mind
Speaker 1: bringing your partner in here, because you're telling me this.
Speaker 2: I want to hear what she has to say.
Speaker 1: And we go and she said She asked her, why
Speaker 1: do you feel the need to try to make him
Speaker 1: feel like he's left theying. Do you understand his background?
Speaker 1: She said yeah, She said, do you understand how prideful
Speaker 1: he is about his background and the way he was raised.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be disrespectful, He's never gonna put his
Speaker 1: hands on you. But why do you feel you need
Speaker 1: the challenge him. Hey, that sound intense. It was, it is,
Speaker 1: But you have to be artists, Jenna, is this something
Speaker 1: that you want? And it just got to the point though, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't want it anymore. I had given all I
Speaker 1: could give and she wasn't hearing.
Speaker 2: I was out.
Speaker 1: I couldn't give anything else. I had given some Because
Speaker 1: here's the thing, oh Joe, what I had started to do,
Speaker 1: I had tried to do, be so much, be what
Speaker 1: she wanted so much. I lost me. I wasn't saying
Speaker 1: it no more.
Speaker 2: I was what she wanted me to be. But I
Speaker 2: wasn't neat I'm.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. What did you hear
Speaker 1: what you just said?
Speaker 4: You tried to I'm gonna put it in my word.
Speaker 4: I tried to please her and make her so happy.
Speaker 4: I lost a sense of self.
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying it anymore. I wasn't I was not
Speaker 1: married in Barney Porter's grandchild.
Speaker 4: I was not.
Speaker 1: I was not that. I was not that little boy
Speaker 1: that grew up on that farm and grew up to
Speaker 1: be a man. That wasn't who I was. You see,
Speaker 1: a lot of times men will go out of their way.
Speaker 1: Women say accept me as I am right, right right.
Speaker 1: Menould go out of their way to try to please
Speaker 1: a woman, and in the process of pleasing a woman,
Speaker 1: you lose yourself. I just had to say no, o yo.
Speaker 1: But you got to be real with yourself. You gotta
Speaker 1: be you gotta want to work on this. You gotta
Speaker 1: want to work, and it takes work. And it's hard
Speaker 1: to hear your partners say things that like, damn, why
Speaker 1: you saying that? When that's actually and I can replay
Speaker 1: it in my head because I'm very I'm very I
Speaker 1: know what I've said, I know what I've done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but to hear to hear her say it, okay. That's
Speaker 1: why I learned the proper way to apologize. It's not
Speaker 1: that if I've done it, you said it so clearly
Speaker 1: I've done it. Intent does not matter whether you intended it.
Speaker 2: To do it or not.
Speaker 1: She's still hurt, she's still offended. Now, I apologize. The
Speaker 1: greatest apologist change behavior, So you can apologize a fa
Speaker 1: thousand times.
Speaker 2: But if the behavior doesn't change, you're not sorry for
Speaker 2: what you've done now mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And most of the time you never sorry. Most of
Speaker 1: the time you only sorry because you got caught.
Speaker 5: Me.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I just thought that
Speaker 1: it was like, and we're better off as friends. We're
Speaker 1: better off as friends. Were cool, we have a bet.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest problem that we had, Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: she was young, I was young. We're trying to figure
Speaker 1: this thing out, which is you know, and it just
Speaker 1: it just wasn't to be. And as we twenty years
Speaker 1: after the fact, She's like, I didn't realize what I
Speaker 1: had to you. Come on, man, they never they never
Speaker 1: do to listen to. I've never met a man that
Speaker 1: works as hard as you and as disciplined as you are.
Speaker 1: But you're very proferful. You're not gonna let nobody push
Speaker 1: you around. You're not gonna let nobody talk reckless to you. No,
Speaker 1: because I don't talk reckless to you. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: call you out of your name because I got I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want nobody to call my sister, my mom, or
Speaker 1: my grandma my name after name, so I don't call
Speaker 1: women out their name. And now and now I had daughters,
Speaker 1: and I definitely don't want nobody to call them out
Speaker 1: their name. So I'm very respectful. I'm very understanding of
Speaker 1: that for me, and a lot of times I was
Speaker 1: I had uh, I was messing with this young lady
Speaker 1: and uh, she would like start to argue. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you're right, I'm gonna let you have that.
Speaker 1: Get upset. She's like, we never gonna figure anything out.
Speaker 1: I said, I say, in order, I would rather keep
Speaker 1: the peace right. Let you be right. It's not that
Speaker 1: big of a deal to me.
Speaker 2: I like that. It's not that big of a deal
Speaker 2: to me. I'm I'm not finna go back and forth
Speaker 2: and argue with you over so you're right.
Speaker 1: But it hurted her. It bothered her because you would
Speaker 1: already back. She said that I want to get away.
Speaker 1: I say, well, if you want to underst me, just ask.
Speaker 1: I don't feel I need to get into an argument
Speaker 1: to disagree with you. For the help you understand me,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We see things differently, and just because we see things differently,
Speaker 1: I see things differently than you because of my age.
Speaker 1: You see things how you see them because of your age.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm right, that doesn't mean you're wrong.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna see things differently because I was raised
Speaker 1: in a different error. M. But I'm willing to accept
Speaker 1: you for who you are and the area you was
Speaker 1: raised in. I you know, I want to.
Speaker 2: Say, but I think the thing is, O Joe.
Speaker 1: I went in and because I really skept it up first,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I dad, but I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna go. It's just like anything,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, I can't do anything half asked. I'm spending
Speaker 1: this my money. So if I'm spending my money, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the most out of it. So I went
Speaker 1: there and I saw it, and I came every day,
Speaker 1: I mean not every day, but every week, right, and
Speaker 1: I call that lady just like. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, and then you know and during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: you know you couldn't be in person, Hey, FaceTime?
Speaker 2: That really that when I started FaceTime. Damn, I gotta
Speaker 2: call this lady on FaceTime. Damn.
Speaker 1: You were really into it like that. Yes, Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to have fast anything. I don't right, right,
Speaker 1: and and and and and and for me, it's as obsession.
Speaker 1: I get to say, that's what and that's why I'm
Speaker 1: like when I when I'm good at something, I'm really
Speaker 1: really good at it. But I don't waste my time
Speaker 1: with stuff that I'm not. Right, I go all in,
Speaker 1: Yes I was, I was one thousand percent.
Speaker 2: I was taking notes.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, take notes, oh Joe, I've taken notes, Andy,
Speaker 1: she says something, Nik, I write it down.
Speaker 2: Called me, she called me. She called me a black
Speaker 2: s O B.
Speaker 1: Right. See, that's how that's how it be.
Speaker 4: That's how it can be, you know, very very meticulous,
Speaker 4: very very detailed, very deep and jotting everything down. And
Speaker 4: see the one thing, the one thing, I don't forget anything.
Speaker 4: I don't forget anything that I said. I don't forget
Speaker 4: anything that I heard. I don't forget anything that.
Speaker 2: I've sought.
Speaker 1: Ever right, you not hear me?
Speaker 2: Ever right?
Speaker 1: I got. I got the memory of an elephant.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: But so as time go as time goes on, which
Speaker 4: is why I was thinking about, you know, doing something
Speaker 4: like that. But then the price points you talk about, like,
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. I'm not sitting down and giving
Speaker 4: you that kind of money just to hear you from me,
Speaker 4: to tell you my problems and you to regurgitate what
Speaker 4: you think the issues.
Speaker 2: Are with me? Honestly, Oh yo, for me.
Speaker 1: If I care about somebody, there's not amount of money
Speaker 1: enough that I wouldn't spend to try to make it work, right, right,
Speaker 1: Because that's how what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm in If I care, I care?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: We dating?
Speaker 2: You need something? I got you? Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1: Uh, That's that's how I am because I've taken time
Speaker 1: out of I've taken time out of my schedule to
Speaker 1: try to get to know you on a level. And
Speaker 1: I spent that kind of time. I done got a year,
Speaker 1: I done got two years. I ain't got three years.
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to just throw it away. Not just me,
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me I was in love
Speaker 1: with this person for three years, four years and one
Speaker 1: incident make me throw it all the way?
Speaker 2: M I just.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm sure there are probably things that
Speaker 1: she probably could have done that would would make me
Speaker 1: do that. But because I know I'm not perfect and
Speaker 1: I'm flawed, and I put people in situations that I've
Speaker 1: asked for a second chance and they graciously gave that. Hmm.
Speaker 1: That's what That's why, Oh Joe, That's why I say
Speaker 1: I'll never ask more than I'm willing to give. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's why I don't go, hey, ain't no woman. You
Speaker 1: ain't gonna find nobody in the last I bet you
Speaker 1: can't find one person last thirty years. Say Shannon Shark
Speaker 1: called me at two o'clock, one o'clock midnight and came
Speaker 1: over to my house. I don't ever ask more than
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give. I don't do that because I
Speaker 1: don't want you to call me. Don't call me at
Speaker 1: one o'clock and that, First of all, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: answer the phone. Second of all, you don't got you
Speaker 1: no late night mood, go like, ha, where you at?
Speaker 1: But I'm sleeping. I'm sleeping the club. I'm sleeping. Well,
Speaker 1: actually I'm not sleeping. I'm thinking, like I ask you done,
Speaker 1: Probably you don't. Probably send me a message, and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about, Okay, what I got to do with blah
Speaker 1: blah blah.
Speaker 2: I got sponsors, I got this. I gotta, you know,
Speaker 2: jump on the call. I got to do a zoom
Speaker 2: meeting about this. I gotta, you know, talk to no.
Speaker 1: The right one to hang you up, the right the
Speaker 1: right one to get you. You're gonna have you up.
Speaker 1: You're not finna call me that time of night. O't Joe,
Speaker 1: I call yo, I'm I don't sleep well anyway. I'll
Speaker 1: probably sleep by four or five hours. That's all I sleep,
Speaker 1: and then I get me an hour and nap during
Speaker 1: the day. Nah, it ain't that serious, I don't. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I love sex like the next man. I don't love
Speaker 1: it that much not to get up at the one o'clock,
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning. Oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean you called somebody at one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: You up now, when I was young?
Speaker 8: Oh yo, okay, okay, okay, okay, no year seventy thought
Speaker 8: when I was young, okay, man.
Speaker 2: I was when I was asleep.
Speaker 1: Bo boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: Look at that clock two fifteen. I said, oh no,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, oh man, yeah, oh Joe.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie I was bad, but I say, boy,
Speaker 1: oh man, I go downstairs on Yoe, open the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Somebody said, you've been talking about me. I said,
Speaker 2: what she had on? Something real scantily She was scantily clad.
Speaker 2: I said what I said, come.
Speaker 7: On in.
Speaker 2: You over here, now, you the guy here up yere,
Speaker 2: You're about to get what you're looking for.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 1: That was the oh yo, I remember. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you true story, O Joe. This was in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I had just moved into the breakers.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Every said that. I said, Nah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: That was it. I I can't do it, Ojoe, I
Speaker 1: can't do it because, you know what, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I think it's something gonna happen. I'm going somewhere. I
Speaker 1: supposed to be home, being the bed, sleep, I on
Speaker 1: a job. Something happened, trying to have a blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Shanna was supposed to be in the bed. That's on
Speaker 1: my mind. I always think when I'm not suppos when
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be doing what I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: be doing. If I try to bear off from that,
Speaker 1: that's why I do the same thing over and over.
Speaker 2: I'm in my own head.
Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm good, I'm good. All right, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: let's get back on track. Now it's time for our
Speaker 1: last second mother Evening. It's time for Q and eight.
Speaker 4: Damn no, hey, I'm a good Manna, We're gonna be
Speaker 4: it all off track.
Speaker 2: He was definitely off track.
Speaker 1: MD said, Uh, if your team ain't win today, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you say foot or ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, old Joe, get him, Bronco not Raven. You a
Speaker 2: lad Rover.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me ask you what, oh Joe, if
Speaker 1: I want to if you don't want to a super
Speaker 1: Bowl with the over the big, with their Patriots, you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna claim you.
Speaker 2: You're gonna claim them. No I'm not. Yeah you are.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not because I didn't contribute to that super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying if you had a you got him.
Speaker 2: There are you helped?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'm I'm Bango. That's it.
Speaker 9: I'm a Bronco and a Raven. Okay, I'm a braving.
Speaker 9: If that makes you happy, then so be it.
Speaker 2: I'm a braver Bronco slash Raven.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That be saying the Broncos beating the Chiefs gave them
Speaker 2: false hope. No, I didn't. You needed to win that
Speaker 2: game to get into the playoffs. You Look, there's levels
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: There are very few teams that you know, get there in.
Speaker 1: The first year and they wining all the way, especially
Speaker 1: when you get dealing with a rookie quarterback and boiled
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. But look, they got they got confidence
Speaker 1: when they had the chief an arrowhead on the rope
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs blocked the field goal or they would
Speaker 1: have lost that game. So if you could go back
Speaker 1: and study the history, the Broncos have always played the
Speaker 1: chief even with my homes played them. Remember two years
Speaker 1: ago they beat them and beat them bad. So the
Speaker 1: Broncos feel very comfortable playing the Chiefs. But it didn't
Speaker 1: give false hope then. I don't think they thought they
Speaker 1: would go win the Super Bowl. King King Govan said, yo,
Speaker 1: up after that first TV hit us up with that port.
Speaker 1: That's all, folks, I feel a good though. I did.
Speaker 1: I I said, you know what I was about. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, shout to calm down, get a goodest
Speaker 1: couple of more of these tubs and then you'll be okay.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, no, uh, jasey uh if
Speaker 1: your team didn't win today, I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: you say for the ball.
Speaker 2: Uh hell to the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all got me, y'all, got y'all, y'all got your boy, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all get your little lamb falling now.
Speaker 2: But I'll be back when next season. Hope we played
Speaker 2: the Bengals.
Speaker 4: Oh matter of fact, I saw the schedule for twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five. The Broncos played the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Where y'll y'all play, Where y'll play, Where y'all play,
Speaker 2: y'all come to us.
Speaker 1: It don't matter.
Speaker 2: Call it battles.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it don't.
Speaker 2: I might go out there. I might, I might go
Speaker 2: out to the country to see that one.
Speaker 1: It absolutely don't matter. Believe that. Uh what happened to
Speaker 1: your Broncos today. I appreciate both of y'all. Man, we
Speaker 1: got to hand it to us. Bro they know, you know,
Speaker 1: but see I like it like this. Oh yo, I
Speaker 1: like when a team beating breaks off here, because that
Speaker 1: way you know we're not there yet.
Speaker 2: You win by you lose by touchdown, you lose by
Speaker 2: field goal.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, we were right there, you know you
Speaker 1: weren't right there where it was seven nothing, seven three,
Speaker 1: and then once they went to ten to seven, it
Speaker 1: was over All you could see was tail lights.
Speaker 2: Flag on the play. Oh your need a sippy cup?
Speaker 1: He do?
Speaker 2: He ain't used to drag it like that. JR.
Speaker 1: Fifty five forty three, Baltimore City, Your honorary assistant coaching read.
Speaker 1: When the Rads went to the Super Bowl for telling
Speaker 1: them how to use their hendry. They need to see
Speaker 1: you boys up. They did to see you boys up. Nah.
Speaker 1: Just uh.
Speaker 2: Damn. I ain't gonna be able to go to the game.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be able to I ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: able to be there because I gotta be at I
Speaker 1: gotta be at NYC.
Speaker 2: Monday comes. Uh the Bier Studio.
Speaker 1: Who play tomorrow? The Rams play, uh Minnesota, Ral play
Speaker 1: in Minnesota in Arizona. Hey, it's only one game tomorrow, yeah,
Speaker 1: dang you man.
Speaker 2: And then you got you know, you got two games Saturday,
Speaker 2: two games Sunday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City, because they were off the buye
Speaker 1: teams play on Saturday, don't they? Kenna City places Houston
Speaker 1: on Saturday, or they play them on Sunday. I would
Speaker 1: think they would make them play on Saturday since they've
Speaker 1: been off.
Speaker 2: What. Yeah, that's only there.
Speaker 1: That should be a good one tomorrow, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah it should.
Speaker 1: Brian West said, with the Packers having the injury bug,
Speaker 1: this game would have been would you rather have the
Speaker 1: injury bug?
Speaker 2: It had a cruisier game.
Speaker 1: The defense, offense excluding the quarterback or also oho Burton
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati needs some guidance when it comes down to
Speaker 1: the When it comes down to the sometimes it's about
Speaker 1: all about a war of attrition. Who's the healthiest, not
Speaker 1: who's the better team. Who's the healthiest team At the
Speaker 1: time in which we played, you might be the better team.
Speaker 2: But if you got.
Speaker 1: Injuries, injuries to keep players and they're not able to participate, well,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you level the playing field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and once you get to once you get to a
Speaker 1: certain level, the teams are pretty even. Yeah, especially once
Speaker 1: you get to the playoffs. Yes, I mean look at
Speaker 1: look at look at look at Baltimore. Uh uh uh
Speaker 1: uh in Buffalo, mm hmmm. MVP quarterbacks both have been
Speaker 1: to the uh uh Lamar's one, but MVP candidates this
Speaker 1: year both have been to the Pro Bowl, Mahomes and Stroud.
Speaker 1: Mahomes has a little bit more condigials, but Stroud has
Speaker 1: been to with Offensive Rookie of the Year been to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Those guys, you see what's what's what's transpired.
Speaker 1: Jane dais Offensive Rookie of the Year going to the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Jared goff uh been to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He's going to the Pro Bowl. So it levels I
Speaker 1: mean now it comes down execution now, but you get injured,
Speaker 1: hopefully everybody. For the most part. I think Washington is
Speaker 1: fairly healthy. The Lions that beat up a little bit,
Speaker 1: but they've been playing without their guys for an extended
Speaker 1: period of time, so they've kind of hit their rhythm.
Speaker 2: Mojoe, we know what we know.
Speaker 1: It's not like they've got these rational injuries in the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. They've been dealing with injuries and they've
Speaker 1: got Okay, we got our rotation, now let's go play. Uh,
Speaker 1: but you're right, O Joe. Burton had got himself into
Speaker 1: some trouble. I don't really know a whole lot about it,
Speaker 1: just about what I read, but he definitely needs somebody
Speaker 1: that can to talk to him. And like young man, Hey,
Speaker 1: you got a great opportunity. Don't waste this opportunity there.
Speaker 1: You can't mess it up. Truy Lawd says say she
Speaker 1: unicorn And oh Joe, what equipment of the player did
Speaker 1: you hate the most to put on for the game?
Speaker 2: I ain't have nobody helping the show the pass.
Speaker 1: Right the same thing I ain't. I ain't wear nothing else.
Speaker 1: I was light as possible. Hell, if I could have
Speaker 1: gone out there with that without the shoulder pads, I
Speaker 1: probably would have. I ain't go down there without a
Speaker 1: helmet now, but the shoulder pads I could. But you
Speaker 1: want to be as light as you possibly can. And
Speaker 1: uh but naw, I looked at that helmet and the
Speaker 1: shoulder pads.
Speaker 2: That's that's my armor. Put it on that shield. I'm
Speaker 2: going into battle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Tyron said, what a looking on your wish
Speaker 1: team is better suited to beat the Chiefs, Bills or
Speaker 1: the Ravens.
Speaker 4: Both both both got dual three quarterbacks and and both
Speaker 4: of them get it done a different way.
Speaker 1: Both can extend, both can extend plays. Both can by time.
Speaker 1: We saw Labar by time, by time, by time, by time,
Speaker 1: find a guy in the back of the end zone,
Speaker 1: by time, find hell we see Allen by time, by time,
Speaker 1: by time, finding the running back. So because there they
Speaker 1: can beat you with their arms and their legs, you
Speaker 1: have to be every you have to defend every blade of.
Speaker 2: Grass when you're geting with those guys.
Speaker 1: They can get out wide, they can hey, they can
Speaker 1: keep the ball, they can throw the ball over your head.
Speaker 1: They just both of these teams feel very We saw
Speaker 1: Buffalo beat them this year in Buffalo. If they play again,
Speaker 1: they have to meet again. Obviously, this was being Kansas
Speaker 1: City where they haven't had the same level of success
Speaker 1: in Kansas City in the playoffs as they have in
Speaker 1: the regular season. The Ravens, the Ravens want. The Ravens
Speaker 1: want this. Both teams want it because they realized in
Speaker 1: order for them to get the credit that they need deserve,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go through They want to go
Speaker 1: through Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lamar says, Look, we have them on the roads.
Speaker 1: We had them dead to right our first game of
Speaker 1: the season, and we left those jokers off the hook.
Speaker 1: Buffalo get a job on them when they were in
Speaker 1: our remember, yep, likely, yep, you're absolutely right. The wise
Speaker 1: guy t cg unking out. You'll love both of you
Speaker 1: from Kansas City. Ask for Dame Januels Daniels, that dude
Speaker 1: is superb. Best in the NFC was versus and I
Speaker 1: guess best in the NFC Washington versus Chiefs Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's asking an awful lot. I don't know, I don't believe,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not picking them to beat Detroit. I'm
Speaker 1: just going in and say that now I'm not picking
Speaker 1: them to beat De Truit. Now, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tall task. Yeah, you're asking awful
Speaker 1: lot command Detroit. But they can put up points quick
Speaker 1: or her and a bunch of them. Oh yeah, then
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, and they can win the multitude
Speaker 1: of wave. They can win a field goal game. They
Speaker 1: can score fifty on you. Washington's gonna have to play
Speaker 1: one of their better games unless they can force Jaggar.
Speaker 2: Now we've seen them turn the ball over Ojoe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now when you turn them all over the playoff time,
Speaker 1: even if you have to superior your team, you dropped
Speaker 1: down and you raised them up to your level.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a very interesting game. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: find out a lot on Saturday. Marco Polo, I believe c. J.
Speaker 1: Strouds should watch Filmo Peyton Manning. Do you believe if
Speaker 1: he audibles more will help? Will that help?
Speaker 2: Is gay? Well, that's an awful lot.
Speaker 1: Look, yes, Look, if you can't put too much on
Speaker 1: his plate like that, Peyton. What you see Peyton coming
Speaker 1: to the leak? Payton was doing that in college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they't a whole lot of Peyton Manny. They didn't even
Speaker 1: ask Brady, did you bet Peyton Manning think about that.
Speaker 1: They didn't ask Breeze to be to be that. Peyton
Speaker 1: ran the offensive meetings. Do y'all understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Not the offensive coordinator, Peyton, he ran everything he's telling guys.
Speaker 1: I want you here, I want you here, run this
Speaker 1: rock this place. I want you here back. I want
Speaker 1: you to check he do to run the rim, run
Speaker 1: bro that you're probably never going to see another Peyton again.
Speaker 2: Brope, I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: But c J is gonna be fine, just in his
Speaker 2: second year.
Speaker 1: Uh pa thirty other I better ball of shade on
Speaker 1: the pit game, A man of my words. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: order the collector's edition. How about you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Joe signed that for me. I like to hear y'all
Speaker 1: pit quarterback situation for next year? Uh I think Russ,
Speaker 1: you look. The problem with Pittsburgh, Oyoe, Yeah, is that
Speaker 1: they always went enough.
Speaker 2: Game that they're never in position to get one of
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, Big Ben fail in their laps,
Speaker 1: but when you make the playoffs, you weigh down and
Speaker 1: so all the quarterbacks are gonna be gone, and so
Speaker 1: now you pick it in the second round and you're
Speaker 1: getting the guy you got.
Speaker 2: What was the guy they got as Cody Pickett with
Speaker 2: a picket picket?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Kenny, that's a lot of pressure for a
Speaker 1: hometown kid played that pit. I mean, think about it, Ohoe.
Speaker 1: The Panthers share that building with the Steelers. You go left,
Speaker 1: you go to the Panther side, you go right, you
Speaker 1: go to the Steeler side. So he's been pulling up
Speaker 1: to that all the time. Now instead of going left,
Speaker 1: he's going right. And he's a hometown kid.
Speaker 2: A lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Samuel Griffords, Hey, Uk and o'hoe. If you were
Speaker 1: GM of the Broncos, what the big the biggest area
Speaker 1: of need for that team to be more competitive next year?
Speaker 2: Tight end?
Speaker 1: I like the receivers, maybe get a look, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: get a little. I like the Titans.
Speaker 2: I like something. I like memes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they made some good plays down the strets
Speaker 1: for you. Maybe running back. I thought Javonte Willis be
Speaker 1: a little better. But McLaughlin, I think that's McLaughlin. He
Speaker 1: got most of the snap and plus I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like that they ran a slide to the
Speaker 1: running back roll on the short side of the field. Well,
Speaker 1: he ain't got nowhere to turn. I mean, he got
Speaker 1: to do a better job of understanding where he e
Speaker 1: is to try to turn up and not run out
Speaker 1: of the bounds on fourth and two. But I didn't
Speaker 1: like that play call. But I think I think me personally, Uh,
Speaker 1: running back tied end offense line pretty solid. Maybe another
Speaker 1: part I love Alan. They got great Cooper and Botino.
Speaker 1: Maybe a safety thaky. The defense is not It's not that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the defense really good John Davis, me and
Speaker 1: the wife and counselor, and it helped I pray I
Speaker 1: pay a hundred, like once or twice. But my guy
Speaker 1: has a doctor degree, and there's a psychologist love us.
Speaker 2: A psychologist love the show. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But bro, look, I mean she's like, well, Channon, you
Speaker 1: know you can come every two weeks and say, nah,
Speaker 1: I want to do this every week.
Speaker 2: I want to do it every week because I want
Speaker 2: to I want to know the route of why I am,
Speaker 2: how I am?
Speaker 1: Uh? Is it me? What am I doing? How could
Speaker 1: I be better? I want to be better. I want
Speaker 1: to be better for me and if I'm better for me,
Speaker 1: I'll be better for her. H. That's the way I
Speaker 1: look at it. O Yo and h you know, I
Speaker 1: think that's a small price to pay. Obviously, everybody don't
Speaker 1: have the means that I have to be able to
Speaker 1: do that. So maybe you can only go once a month, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: but you know, hey, it's if it's better to have
Speaker 1: somebody here that doesn't have a dog in the fight,
Speaker 1: because a lot of times her side, her family, her
Speaker 1: friends gonna take her side, your family, your friend's gonna
Speaker 1: take their side. Right. Uh. But like I said, my sister,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, who side you home? But oh,
Speaker 1: that's the way it goes sometimes, don't Joe. And then
Speaker 1: you come to the realization, you know what, Joe, Hey,
Speaker 1: you did everything you could.
Speaker 2: It's just they meant to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try that is they.
Speaker 2: Meant to be. Guys.
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Speaker 1: second field goal by Zaye Gonzalez. It hit the upright,
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Speaker 1: to twenty. Jade Daniels was sensational. The Packers defeated the
Speaker 1: Eagles wenty two to ten Saint Kwa rush fo one
Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen yards. The Eagles defense picked up Jordan
Speaker 1: Love three times and that was enough for them to
Speaker 1: go to the Divisional round of the playoffs next week,
Speaker 1: where they'll host the winner of the Minnesota Rams game
Speaker 1: and Buffalo beat my Broncos thirty one to seven. It
Speaker 1: was a great run. We had a great season. We
Speaker 1: had a great season, but it didn't end like we
Speaker 1: wanted to. Joe didn't end like we wanted to. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I got kill.
Speaker 2: There's always next year.
Speaker 1: The Patriots hire Mike Brabel to be their next coach
Speaker 1: after they five Girard Mayo one year.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: Mike Brabel takes over that concluded nightcap. I'm up, he's
Speaker 1: O Joe. We'll see you tomorrow after the Lions Vikings
Speaker 1: Game two. So we'll wrap that up. Put a knife
Speaker 1: bowl on back. We have a lot of other stuff
Speaker 1: to talk about. I'm almost certain. Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1: I'm up, He's O Joe. We will see you my roll,
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