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Speaker 2: All right, don't Joe check us out?

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Speaker 1: The Patriots have hired Mike Bravel as the next head coach.

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Speaker 1: Robert Kraft will replace one of his former players with

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Speaker 1: another and hope to improve the real results. Brabel is

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Speaker 1: the first coach since nineteen fifty to directly succeed another

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Speaker 1: Since bars Greg took over for Bart Star as the

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Speaker 1: Packers head coach in nineteen eighty four, there might be

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Speaker 1: a possibility to bring Josh McDaniels back as offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Considering that Josh, before we talk about Mike Brabel, it

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Speaker 1: seems to me the only place Johsh McDaniels can have

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Speaker 1: success is in New England. Wait a minute, we'll stop

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 4: The only place Josh mcdanie could have success is in

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Speaker 4: New England when he has Tom Brady at the helm.

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Speaker 1: Well, he did go to the playoffs when he had

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Speaker 1: a Matt Jones. Remember Matt Jones' rookie year he had

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Speaker 1: make that went ten and six. Then he goes to

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Speaker 1: remember he goes to the Raiders, he gets the Raiders job.

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Speaker 1: Coach Belichick had this brilliant idea that I think Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien was the coach for one year, and then Bill

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Speaker 1: that have never called him offensive play at all their life.

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Speaker 2: One of the special teams coach. The other is a DC.

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Speaker 1: And you know what our first round draft pick as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm disappointed that mister Craft did not give

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Speaker 1: Gerardmeo more time. Might be interesting to see if Brabel

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Speaker 1: struggles and not have a great record. The likelihood of

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Speaker 1: him moving on with Brabel after year is not very likely. Now,

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Speaker 1: everybody else that mister Craft has had not grated. He

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Speaker 1: had coach Belichick from two thousand until twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: right to twenty four. But coach Belichick was five and eleven.

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Speaker 1: He got another, he got it the great Beard next year.

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Speaker 1: We know what happened to when the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: they take off. But do you like the higher of

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Speaker 1: Mike Brabel? I mean I like it. I like it,

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Speaker 1: but I don't see much changing. I don't see much changing.

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Speaker 4: Depending on how the draft go, depending on what they

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Speaker 4: that can help defensively, that can help offensively, things might change.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see.

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Speaker 4: It to be a quick turnaround that fast. I've never

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Speaker 4: Drake may is good. He showed flashes of brilliance. Then

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Speaker 4: he's had some luss. Obviously, you get that with a

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Speaker 1: Then I think things will be okay for them.

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Speaker 4: But I don't see him making that kind of jump

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Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: But if they do, if they do have a lot

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Speaker 4: of season again, the least for Rabel will be much

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's in that division. They're not going anywhere any time soon.

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Speaker 1: They got a quarterback Josh Allen can't be beat no

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Speaker 1: more than what twenty seven to twenty eight years of age.

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Speaker 2: They got a young team.

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Speaker 1: They got James Cook, young receivers, young talented tight ends,

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Speaker 1: good offensive line, they got some pretty good pass rushing.

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Speaker 2: In the two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mlone came back, made some impact players today. I

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Speaker 2: The ball away.

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Speaker 1: But Buffalo ain't going anywhere because they got that seventeen

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Speaker 2: There for a while. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But listen, listen, listen. Drink drink made is good though.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, listen some of

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Speaker 4: the flashes you know I've seen from him. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: the Patrios, the Patriots got them one, now, okay, but

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Speaker 4: then it's like, what God, you can't do that.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna leave them?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely. It's definitely he's not

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Speaker 1: a He's not a CJ. Shroud. He's not a Jaydon Davis. No,

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Speaker 4: You know, changing the dynamic of your franchise and offense

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Speaker 1: And get him him, get some wide receiver, get some players,

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Speaker 1: because what what C. J. Stroud had is they had

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Speaker 1: They had a solid offensive line. The offensive line was

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Speaker 1: They weren't so good this year. Uh Thompson. If I'm

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Speaker 1: nicked up defensively. Uh they were, they were really good.

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Speaker 1: But I like Drake May. But their look, oh cho,

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Speaker 1: they got one hundred and thirty million dollars in cap space.

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Speaker 2: I ain T Higgins.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling T Higgins the hey cause you know, oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: I'm tampering. Hey, we got right down.

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Speaker 1: We got five years, one hundred and sixty million dollars

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Speaker 1: for Tea Higgins. We got eighty We got probably seventy

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Speaker 4: Them six year, six year, twenty million, ninety guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna go back because because

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Speaker 4: Do they do agency They're gonna overpay.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I know, the more you

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Speaker 1: he's gonna want Joe Burrow money. You got that boy,

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Speaker 1: If I had it, he would have been paid last year.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna question myself. Yeah, blackfold, Well how

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact? Matter of fact, yes, Jamal, matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: Here you take the check, I'm gonna leave it.

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Speaker 4: Blame you put what you want on them because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 1: That's why I couldn't be I couldn't be no owner.

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Speaker 1: You said something very interested the first time you said

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Speaker 1: it's not your money.

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Speaker 1: Yes, three people on every team. Hey, Chad, listen to me.

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Speaker 4: Now there are three people on every team you go through,

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want you can have. Now I'm just speaking

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want, corn head and write it on.

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Speaker 1: Charge of safety Darwin James said, Justin Herbert doesn't deserve

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen, O Joe, Man, we don't deserve it.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, man ten, you know who want't be

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Speaker 5: I feel like every game. He's given up giving us

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, man, I don't ready have no

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Speaker 5: I love him as a player, as a Bronther, and

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Speaker 5: I know he gonna work his tail off next season

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, do you agree, sir?

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Darwin has to say all the right things.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you win, quarterback keep the credit. When

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't get the play, O Joe, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't say.

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Speaker 1: If you can't say what a quarterback wins, he gets

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Speaker 1: I believe the criticism was warranted. Oh Joe, how in

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Speaker 1: But the minute you say, bro, you gotta make that play.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you know what Derwin didn't just come up, come

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Speaker 1: If Lamar throws four interceptions against Buffalo, will he be criticized,

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: It's bettering the man through four interceptions all year, So

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Speaker 1: Crucified. So I'm just trying to figure out, are we

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Speaker 2: O Joe, It's like a dB.

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Speaker 1: You give up four touchdowns, We're not supposed to say, bro,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Are we gonna talk about you?

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Speaker 2: Now? You should?

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Speaker 1: I'm to give up four sides, George Pikett dropping four passes?

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Speaker 4: But you gotta understand, this is his teammate. He gonna

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Speaker 4: But you understand one of the reasons why you are

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Speaker 2: You just don't.

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Speaker 1: My thing is, I don't have a problem with him defending,

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Speaker 2: I believe it's criticism and it's justified. Right.

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Speaker 4: Also, you have to understand the error we're in. You

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Speaker 1: Truth is absolutely hate. Yeah, bron fit of me? Ah,

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Speaker 1: you hate exactly, bro? Yeah and sometimes yes yes. But look,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with you. The only problem

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact and you're supposed to stick up

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Speaker 2: He did that wasn't the case yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what I love about sports, O Joe,

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Speaker 1: is because it's game the game, it's update your resume,

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Speaker 1: even though you can be as credential as you are

440
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: and Pat and hey, it got me off. One of

441
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: the shows on Fox, Tom Brady was a seven time champion.

442
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady wasn't playing well in those games, and the

443
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: fans knew it, and all I was saying, I can't.

444
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take anything away from Tom Brady.

445
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 1: What Tom Brady did prior to this game and has

446
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: no bearing on this game. Tom turned the ball over twice.

447
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: Tom was less than fifty percent completion. That's what we

448
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: have to talk about. This is not lifetime achievement. Now,

449
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: if we want to do a lifetime achievement, the NFL

450
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: said lifetime achievement war goes to Tom Brady seven Super Bowls.

451
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: He went to ten, and y'alla and y'all, so be it.

452
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: That's not the time for me to bring up a

453
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: game in which you threw four picks. This is a

454
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: lifetime achievement. But when we're evaluating game to game, and

455
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: that's what we do. When you didn't say that last week,

456
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: so what was I supposed to say? That got through

457
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: for five hundred yards and five touchdowns they won. Wor's

458
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: the criticism in that? But when he doesn't play well,

459
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: we talk about it and that's what we try to do.

460
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: And people don't understand. People don't. Look, that's not what

461
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: you said. Look, when you get information, when you get

462
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: better information, you're better to evaluate. When you can do better,

463
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: you do better. When you know better, you say better.

464
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Speaker 1: So what Derwin James is well within his right. I

465
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Speaker 1: don't believe it was hate because when I think of people,

466
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Speaker 1: I don't think people really hate Justin Herbert. But I

467
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: do believe the criticism now, some of the criticism that

468
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: Lamar has received. But see when they start talking about

469
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Speaker 1: you know where you don't say this about that. I

470
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: know I'm being fair because they tell me, o Jo, well,

471
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: you don't say that about white quarterback, and then they

472
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: tell me I want to say this about black quarterback.

473
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Speaker 1: So if I'm getting it on both sides, I'm pretty

474
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Speaker 1: sure I'm right down in the middle. As long as

475
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Speaker 1: it's not what on the other it's both, I can

476
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: deal with that. Yeah, But listen, it would be hard.

477
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Speaker 4: It would be very hard, especially in today's era and

478
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 4: the younger generation. They're not gonna be able to separate

479
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 4: the two. They're not gonna be able to separate them

480
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 4: to them from the hate. Anytime you say anything that

481
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Speaker 4: is not in favor of their play and how they're

482
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: playing or what they're doing, it's going to be seen

483
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Speaker 4: as hate. No matter how many times you say.

484
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Speaker 1: Here you can sit there and explain it to you

485
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Speaker 1: blewe in the flace.

486
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Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about players in today's game,

487
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 4: they're going to view it as hate no matter what.

488
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Speaker 1: Even if you are critiquing just what happens to me,

489
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Speaker 1: e Jo, what happened to the word constructive criticism even

490
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: though its criticism you use it. We're trying to explain

491
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: to you what you did wrong. Everything can if I

492
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: just praise you, even even if you're wrong. My Grandfa

493
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: used to always tell us, like, boy, I never reward

494
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: negative behavior. So when the child is acted up, you

495
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: don't give the child candy. You don't tell the child

496
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Speaker 1: to go pick out a toy. My grandma said, boy,

497
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: wherever you show up, wherever you show a you get woe.

498
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Speaker 2: WHI right there?

499
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Speaker 1: Now, you say, my grandhaart to yeah, okay, Now, if

500
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Speaker 1: you play good, I'm gonna say you played good. Right,

501
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: But how am I gonna look because people, oh, your

502
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: other position that we're in, they're gonna hear everything that

503
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: we say. So if you play bad, I've got to

504
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: say that you played bad, you didn't play good.

505
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: It's not personal. Everybody think.

506
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: Now, if I say a guy didn't say out of

507
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: this like, bro, I don't know you enough to dislike.

508
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: You've never done anything to me, right, so there's nothing

509
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: to dislike. But I think with my tra and I

510
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: having played the game an extended period of time, having

511
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: studied the game, having watched the game, I think I

512
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: can fairly evaluate what I saw on the field without

513
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: making it personal. Am I passionate about it? And I

514
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: think that's the thing. People take my passion with hate.

515
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, not only your passion, but your delivery as well. Yes, delivery,

516
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, delivery. It is it come.

517
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: Off like ain't God damn? You know, so I kind

518
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: of understand. I kind of understand where they coming from.

519
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: But I just say the thing is like Derwin, like,

520
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: I love that you standing up for your teammate, and

521
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: rightfully so. But I was just say the hate criticism, yeah,

522
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: christicism a little hard. But I can understand that we

523
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: didn't play well. It wasn't just on him. We didn't

524
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: play well. We didn't play well on my end. That's

525
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: my thing. Was like, you know, hey, John had a

526
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: tough guy. Yeah, but we got to help him out.

527
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't it didn't help that we had

528
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: three or four drops. It didn't have It didn't help

529
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: that we missed a couple of blitz pickups and forced

530
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: them into a situation. Yeah we gotta help. Hey, if

531
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: we still on the field a little longer, hey, maybe

532
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: I defense get an opportunity to rest instead of you know,

533
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: being on the field or extending period of time. There's

534
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: a way to say it that I get. Look, I get,

535
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: and like I said, I think now there's a because

536
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: there's so many O yo, there's so many sites. Everybody

537
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: has an opinion now and guess what. I can go

538
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: on your page and leave a comment, Oh Joe, you suck,

539
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: you dropped five passes and talk about you the best.

540
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: Whereas before, O Joe, we didn't hear we we really

541
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: didn't hear no outside noise.

542
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: It was only what they wrote.

543
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Maybe when you got into an opposing stadium you got

544
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: bulled in that. Oh Joe, you terrible, You suck. You're

545
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: not better than Oh you're not better than t O,

546
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: You're not better than Moss. But now, oh you inundated

547
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: with that? Yes, yes, absolutely, cause football sports pro sports

548
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: have become twenty four hours, three sixty five and everybody's

549
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: on social media and for the most part, even if

550
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: they don't follow you. Oh you're on Oh oh you're

551
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Okay, let me go leave this comment. Oh

552
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: he on ig Let me go leave another comment. Oh

553
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: he on Facebook too, Let me try to message you.

554
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: He might not see ay, they might not can see it.

555
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna message you anyway to let him know, Yeah,

556
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: you still suck Ojo Jay.

557
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: Just a thought, just a thought as a fan knowing

558
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: that I can reach you.

559
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: I might he might not.

560
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: See it, but just the fact that I have access

561
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 4: and there's a chance that you might see what I'm

562
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 4: finished say on Finna let it rip.

563
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: And even if he don't see it, guess what you

564
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: got family, friends and loved ones that do see it.

565
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: Man, you saw what they said about you, O Joe.

566
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Right, you heard what he's saying. Yeah, so you're gonna

567
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: get it one way or another. If not everything, you're

568
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: gonna get enough to Like, Man, what the hell, O Joe?

569
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Why they talk about you like this? Yeah? I wish

570
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: I wish more players.

571
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: I wish more players were like me and had my

572
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: mentality when it comes to people saying things or people,

573
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: you know, people being critical of their player whatever, maybe

574
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: just even even in life in general, even life in general,

575
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: Like I'm very accepting and welcoming of of of critiquing.

576
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: I have no issue with it.

577
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: I have no issue with it because you know, obviously

578
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: when I was playing during that time, if it bothered

579
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: me through the media, I was seen as the villain,

580
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: and I continue to feed the what's the what's what's

581
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: the word?

582
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking for.

583
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: The narrative.

584
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I continue to feed the narrative. I refuse to change.

585
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: I refuse to conform the NFL. You know, okay, we

586
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: can't control them, so what do we need to do?

587
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: You know, we need to take his money.

588
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: So when they started taking my money, I want up them.

589
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: I started sending to fine money in early I was

590
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 4: it got to your point, like year six, I was

591
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 4: sending the money to the league office a week in

592
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: advance ahead of time, so you don't have to mayl

593
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: me no FedEx letter, because.

594
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: I just I just wouldn't conform. I wouldn't conform at all.

595
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: And I wish players were able to take that critique

596
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: in like when you when you when you got on

597
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: me for some of the stuff. I did you notice

598
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: I never said anything?

599
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't.

600
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean I hear it. Oh I heard I heard it. Okay, okay, okay,

601
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, next week, I'm haf something best

602
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: for him.

603
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: I think the thing, Joe is that social media.

604
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: Because I don't want people to think that social media

605
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: is all bad. Because social media is good.

606
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: It's good.

607
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. A lot of times social media

608
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: can give people an opportunity to see you outside of

609
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: what's being written and talked about you. They get an

610
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to see you for what you want to present

611
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, like Man, Man, I ain't

612
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: know he was that funny, you know, he had that

613
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: kind of personality. A lot of people like cause you

614
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: see me on CBS, you saw me up there sitting

615
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: at the desk, and they see a couple of slippets.

616
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: But then I get to be on Undisputed and I

617
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: really get to let my hair down, right man, And

618
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: I think that relatability is what people like, kind of

619
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: gravitated towards Man. He like my uncle. He talked just

620
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: like he was at the cookout at the barbecue. We

621
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: having to be in the barbecue at the barbershop. He's

622
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: talking like that, just like we actually talk. But he

623
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: on national television, I ain't no. Ay. Yeah. And so

624
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: the social media aspect does have its pros and cons.

625
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: But just like everything, you have to use it, it'll

626
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: use you.

627
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

628
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: Social media is very advantageous. Now.

629
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: It could swallow you up. Yes, in DNBA if you

630
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: have a weak mind. He not strong minded. You got

631
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: to play. You got to learn to play the game.

632
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: You got to learn to play the game. Yep, be

633
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: all right, Like somebody said, whatever I'm drinking, what's Taylor

634
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 4: port a wine?

635
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: A cheap wine at that?

636
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: It is very no, you know you like Morgan David.

637
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: It ain't it ain't no, it ain't no u a protrude.

638
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: It's not no roth Child, it's not no you know,

639
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: no opus. Uh right, Kamus silver whatever a silver old.

640
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: It ain't none of that.

641
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: You see what this is, right, sparkling cider. And this

642
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: ain't number half. I wasn't drinking nothing, man, This ain't

643
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: number half of cider.

644
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Uh oh Joe.

645
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of social media, Cortall Patterson shave the Steelers on

646
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: Instagram the snow since I can't judge the field. Patterson

647
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: did not play a single offensive snap last night. Yeah,

648
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: I understand it's frustration. Yeah, I understand it.

649
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: What he was able to do in Atlanta, you know,

650
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: understanding what he can do in Minnesota. In Minnesota more

651
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: so on special teams, sometimes the backfield.

652
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: But you got you got Najie Harris in front of you,

653
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: so you're not taking carriage from him.

654
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: You know, so your opportunities are gonna come few and

655
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 4: very few. How do you say the same, few and

656
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: far between, So you have to you have to make

657
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: the most of those opportunities.

658
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: And they just can't guess what it wasn't in between

659
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: because they didn't.

660
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: Come at all.

661
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: Yeah too, for hell, they didn't use their best weapon.

662
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, that's who need, that's who should be complaining.

663
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. That game is over.

664
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: But I feel for him though, I feel for him.

665
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, check this out. Here's the Twitter question of

666
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: a week.

667
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: So if a female takes a man out, do he

668
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: gotta give it up at the end of the night.

669
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

670
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 4: I love now they're talking. I can bring me that

671
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: hold on. I like that question. First off, who's paying? Well,

672
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: the woman I'm assuming she invited the guy. Yeah, she's

673
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 4: paid playing the bill?

674
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: Is she paying?

675
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: Yep?

676
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: I like this. I like this now. Sometimes if you

677
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: get an assertive woman, if you get an assertive woman

678
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: that will paid the bill, she will let you know,

679
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: no great area, no great area.

680
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: When you have a woman that asks you out, When

681
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: you have a woman that pays the bill. She's letting

682
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: you know what time it is, you know what the

683
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: play is right after this?

684
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: Right, I didn't. I didn't come to play. And these

685
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: ain't young folks. These ain't you hold on time?

686
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: Let me get hold on time about talk to me?

687
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: Were you're telling me that we'reen out there, that y'all

688
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: can go out? Yeah, and you can get the buns

689
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: on the first night.

690
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: Uh.

691
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: The older women, I'm the older women now.

692
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: I ain't talking about the young ones, the young ones

693
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 4: that wants you to pay for everything, not them. I'm

694
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: talking about the older women, the older women that are seasoned,

695
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: the older women that are veterans, the older women that

696
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: don't want to play games. I'm not need to play

697
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: no games.

698
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: Listen.

699
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: I need to understand if I'm gonna deal with you

700
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: long term or not. How do I know if I'm

701
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: gonna deal with you? I need to know if when

702
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: we lay down horizontally or vertically, have you want to

703
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 4: do it. If it's good enough, you know what, I'm

704
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 4: gonna be around for a while. If it's not, I'm

705
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: probably gonna answer your phone call no more. That's like,

706
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's light. Now I'm fifty seven. I'll

707
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: tell you what I've been through. I'll tell you what

708
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: I've been through. All right, now you get you get,

709
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: you get some of these young whipper snappers I need today.

710
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all about what can you do for me?

711
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: Buy me this, buy me that, get my nails, get

712
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: my nails on my feet, in my head done?

713
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: You know? Uh my wig, I need a new installed.

714
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: That's different. It's all about what you can do. Then

715
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: you really get nothing in return. You know, I'm talking

716
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: about all of them because see here is the thing

717
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: I got. I'm exo. I'm extremely, extremely care because this

718
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: look no means no, maybe means no, yes, Na's no tomorrow.

719
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: So I'm really really i I've damn be like, are

720
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: you sure you should? Hey?

721
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: Hold on, are you sure you feel killed? The movie?

722
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: I'll kill me bout it? See you don't.

723
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 4: You don't have to do That's why I see, that's

724
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 4: why you don't have to do that with older women on.

725
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Forty forty five, you know, fifty five.

726
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: Sometimes even sixty, huh hear me? They Yeah, what what sixty?

727
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 4: What fear you playing it?

728
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: At ball? Oh? Joe? The thing gil the sixty that's

729
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: my that's that's that's a little older than me. But

730
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying they grew up in the air. They grew

731
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: up in the air. They grew up in the Arab

732
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: and I came up here. That's what that didn't happen. Uh,

733
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: These these women evolved with the times. They didn't got

734
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: time to play. They don't have time to play. That's

735
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: what I understand. Listen to you, the young folk gonna

736
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: listen to the young folk gonna waste your time, you

737
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: know what. They're gonna waste your time because they have

738
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: time to buy. They're young, they have time to wait. Oh, okay,

739
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: twenty I'm twenty five and I'm twenty What a rushing for?

740
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, what a rushing for?

741
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: Now you get to talk of the women. You're getting

742
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: talking to women our age. They ain't got time to play.

743
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: What I'm waiting two three weeks for? What I'm waiting

744
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: a month for? What do I have? What do I

745
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: even have a ninety day rule? For ninety days? I

746
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: might not even be here. Damn, Listen, I'm.

747
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: Trying to be.

748
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: Is she like that that? I don't need to be

749
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: bothered anyway? Doubt, but you hope it.

750
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: Damn. I'm just you know how it is. You know

751
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: how it is.

752
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: Man, Listen, listen that their pros and call on their

753
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: pros and call if you if you got time to

754
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: waist and you want to play the game.

755
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, that's that's the thing that got oh

756
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: trying to perceive me.

757
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 2: I don't even ask.

758
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna you ain't gonna have to ask. No,

759
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: hell no you know no no no no, no no no no, no,

760
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: y'all gotta ask.

761
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: So what you do? Can I come to you?

762
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, already think already think something up.

763
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 6: Hey, you don't understand, man, Well I guess you get

764
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 6: you get you one of the old ones.

765
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: You me yea, she put she put that blind boat

766
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: on you, put the sock in your mouth and you

767
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: can't talk.

768
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Now. I can't give it that kind of control. The

769
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: ain't no HANDCUF because I'll be put that whole headboard off. Hey, y'all, Hey,

770
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: I guarantee you I spat that whole headboard.

771
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: Bad, bad, please bad?

772
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: He all.

773
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: Hey, no, man, I don't I don't like being respect old.

774
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hold on, let me tell you something. Now,

775
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: see this, how this when I tell you. You're not living.

776
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You not living.

777
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 4: You gotta get your swing set, right, Yeah, tell Michelle

778
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 4: to get your swing set.

779
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: You tie it boom in the in the in the

780
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: in the what do you call the doorway? What do

781
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: you what do you call the doorway?

782
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: The doorway?

783
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: You tied it.

784
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: You hang it up in the doorway. Yeah, you hang

785
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 4: it up in the threshold. What you want to call it? Bingo,

786
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: that's one called the little swing sets.

787
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: You got to do that. Then bondage you get, you

788
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: get the bonds.

789
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: I don't even hold jo jo. I ain't gonna let

790
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: that happen.

791
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

792
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: I can't let you give it. I can't let you

793
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: get that out of control you got.

794
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: You gotta let it tie you up.

795
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you see, man, God told man you Hey.

796
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: Listen, she tied you up. Your legs, your legs be

797
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: up right, but you can't move because they got the

798
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: like a woman like aldo. You know, I got killing

799
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: hold on, so you know I got kids. So they

800
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: put you up in a stir.

801
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 7: Oh dude, yeah, oh dude, hey listen, hey boy, I'm

802
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 7: telling oh listen, wait, hey.

803
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: Get your veteran now, Baddy comes out of there like, well, mister,

804
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: show what happened that they head? Boy? Don't after bed

805
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: out of sash? That yoke was smooth off mad Please.

806
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, I'm gonna see some videos, man, so you

807
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: know you check you check the videos out and you

808
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 4: just experiment. You experiment, you know you you you listen.

809
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 4: You you're fifty seven. At some point you got to evolved.

810
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: You got to try new things. There's so much out

811
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 4: there that you haven't done yet. You might like it,

812
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: that's the problem. Matter of fact, you ever been to

813
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: the swing club?

814
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: No, no swinging, man, I ain't even swing without the

815
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: elementary school. I ain't playing on the swing set going

816
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: on h oh.

817
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: H hell to the doll man.

818
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what you hold him, Joe, nahd Daddy.

819
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: That ain't for me. That ain't for me.

820
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: Do you say you ain't swinging elementary school? No? I

821
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: don't play. I don't do nothing, but that's winging. O.

822
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: I'm good. I will take y'all word for I will

823
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: take your word for it. O't yoe.

824
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Hey, hey man, we got we gotta go up to

825
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: the d r man. You ain't got to worry about nothing.

826
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: You know out there he'll be all right. Man. Oh,

827
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: Joe Rapper, red Man, mething red Man, and he's to

828
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: be a tandem rap group. Uh, saying he was selling

829
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: but for two and a half years, no sex, no alcohol,

830
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: so everything crystalized for so everything was so clear, and

831
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: his oh, his head just opened up. I'm saying what

832
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: he said, what.

833
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: He said, saying it now what I will believe, Red Man,

834
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: I wouldn't believe that you were sober. I could see

835
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: the discipline in that area and not drinking, understanding that

836
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: it can better you and Betty your life, Betty.

837
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: Your decision making. Uh.

838
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 4: As far as sex is concerned, I'm not sure how

839
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: that would cloud judgment in any way or or or

840
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: cause bodily harm in general. Because sex is is healthy

841
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 4: for you, it's healthy for you.

842
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: It wouldn't clear my mind, my mind to be so cloudy, Wright,

843
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: But I got the free will it man, Mat I

844
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: think be backed up in you. No, hey said, hey, listen, listen.

845
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm I'm still in my my selling feet,

846
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: my celibacy journey.

847
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: So I understand what he's saying.

848
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: But the amount of time, how many years he said,

849
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: two and a half years, see. That's that's now that

850
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: I can't believe because I'm going let me see, she

851
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: left me in October, October.

852
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 6: October, November, Jane, January, so January. Yeah, that's listen.

853
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm struggling.

854
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm strung.

855
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm struggling.

856
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: I ain't number two months in yeah, man, I'm struggling.

857
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: So I'm trying two years. Hey, I'm two months and

858
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonaix weeks.

859
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,479
Speaker 1: I give you six weeks. Who I'll give somebody six weeks.

860
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm in a relationship. I get you six weeks. We

861
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: need some space, Okay, I look at I give you

862
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: six weeks from to day right, six weeks from the

863
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: day right? Hey, what happened if they don't come back

864
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: after them six weeks? Hey, somebody black help?

865
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: I gotta put black ham on somebody else?

866
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: Should I Should I try that? Should I say that? No?

867
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: No, hold on, I'm gonna try. But you know, but

868
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: the problem is is that I'm gonna just say I

869
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: got it from you. I'm gonna say that for me.

870
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, that's a totally that's a total

871
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: you re different situation, Huh. I confide in everything you say.

872
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: You like the father figure to me. So basically, if

873
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: it's it's been.

874
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: Benty two months for me and I'm I'm Brian here

875
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: being celebrated and you just said something that you done

876
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 4: or you wouldn't do within the sixty time and I'm

877
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: sitting around here waiting two months. Well just not really

878
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 4: for that, but for me, it's it's giving me pieces,

879
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: giving me a sense of a sense of calm, a

880
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: sense of clarity. And I'm like, well, Ship, I need

881
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: to stand on business. So boom you at, Well she

882
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: didne she ain't getting no six weeks, I'm gonna give up,

883
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: give her another week?

884
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: Do you give me something another week? I'm going what

885
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: she called? You called you the other night, you said

886
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: you weren't going to get get none.

887
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she trying, She tried,

888
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna.

889
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

890
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 4: I'm in a place in a position where you did

891
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: something to me and you need to be you have

892
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: to stand on business and I can't just giving my

893
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 4: stuff up like that because I'm not easy.

894
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense to you.

895
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: I just think you're thinking, oh, Jordan, just all de paying.

896
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 1: Look if that's something that you really want to work

897
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: for if that's something that look because at the end

898
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: of the day, the longer one look, all I'm saying

899
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: is all I'm saying is is that the longer your wait,

900
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: the more likely something can creep in. That's all I'm saying.

901
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: So I happen to be out here. No six months,

902
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: no year, no two years. You know hey, we say

903
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: operated nah na right right, because you know, okay, So

904
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: what what what what we try? What do we try

905
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: to do?

906
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: We need to go to counsel, We need to go

907
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: to therapy together? What what do we need to do?

908
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: How do we how do we? How do how do we?

909
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: How do we come back together and to be at

910
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: a more stronger union than we were? So this doesn't

911
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: happen again because at the end of it, So what

912
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: do what do you think it's gonna take? Do I

913
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: need Do we need to go to therapy? Do we

914
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: need do I need to go to therapy on my own?

915
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: And we also go to couples therapy. So I've just

916
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: tried to because I do want this to work, because

917
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't put so much time in it, so much energy,

918
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: so much effort. Matter of fact, you believe in therapy.

919
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: You think the works, A couple of counting works.

920
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: Let's look at where's ash ash ash to look up

921
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: this statistics on the percentage of therapy actually working, couple therapy,

922
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: marriage therapy, counseling.

923
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm curious of what the percentage to be on those

924
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: that actually work.

925
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 2: For me, O Joe. I went in where I went

926
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: in with an open mind. Oh so you did it? Yeah,

927
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: O Joe.

928
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what people I've done it ain't no

929
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: did it, I've done it. I was in therapy for

930
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: a long time. I did therapy. I was doing I

931
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: just stopped probably about a year ago, but I was

932
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: doing therapy once a week for three hundred dollars a

933
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: week for like three years. Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa real

934
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: as shit back, The therapy is successful seventy percent of

935
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: the time, seven out of ten. You gotta pay for it, Yes,

936
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: what I'm paying you to listen to my profits? You

937
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: and I paid it for you to give me an

938
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: answer on the issues. I'm booked. Yes, oh, man, nigga please, Yes,

939
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all think so. But I'll see her as

940
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: the thing with Shannon Sharp. Everything Shannon Sharp is ever

941
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: saying on television or on night cap can be proven

942
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: or disproven. So y'all saying cap that don't bother me

943
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: because I know firsthand. That's why I'm able to speak

944
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: so freely and effortlessly about it, because I've been there

945
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: when the therapist told me, Shannon, you're speaking y'all speaking

946
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: two different languages.

947
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: She's speaking Chinese and you're speaking Spanish.

948
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: Unless you learn the others language, you're never gonna be

949
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: able to communicate. Shannon, Are you arguing for right or

950
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: you arguing to be right? I'm not telling you what

951
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: somebody told me. I'm telling you as I'm sitting on

952
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: that lady's couch. And she said, Shannon, would you mind

953
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: bringing your partner in here, because you're telling me this.

954
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: I want to hear what she has to say.

955
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: And we go and she said She asked her, why

956
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: do you feel the need to try to make him

957
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: feel like he's left theying. Do you understand his background?

958
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: She said yeah, She said, do you understand how prideful

959
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: he is about his background and the way he was raised.

960
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be disrespectful, He's never gonna put his

961
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: hands on you. But why do you feel you need

962
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: the challenge him. Hey, that sound intense. It was, it is,

963
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: But you have to be artists, Jenna, is this something

964
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: that you want? And it just got to the point though, No,

965
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want it anymore. I had given all I

966
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: could give and she wasn't hearing.

967
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: I was out.

968
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't give anything else. I had given some Because

969
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: here's the thing, oh Joe, what I had started to do,

970
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: I had tried to do, be so much, be what

971
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: she wanted so much. I lost me. I wasn't saying

972
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: it no more.

973
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: I was what she wanted me to be. But I

974
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: wasn't neat I'm.

975
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. What did you hear

976
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 1: what you just said?

977
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: You tried to I'm gonna put it in my word.

978
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: I tried to please her and make her so happy.

979
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 4: I lost a sense of self.

980
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying it anymore. I wasn't I was not

981
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: married in Barney Porter's grandchild.

982
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: I was not.

983
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: I was not that. I was not that little boy

984
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: that grew up on that farm and grew up to

985
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: be a man. That wasn't who I was. You see,

986
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: a lot of times men will go out of their way.

987
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: Women say accept me as I am right, right right.

988
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: Menould go out of their way to try to please

989
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: a woman, and in the process of pleasing a woman,

990
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: you lose yourself. I just had to say no, o yo.

991
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: But you got to be real with yourself. You gotta

992
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: be you gotta want to work on this. You gotta

993
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: want to work, and it takes work. And it's hard

994
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: to hear your partners say things that like, damn, why

995
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: you saying that? When that's actually and I can replay

996
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: it in my head because I'm very I'm very I

997
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: know what I've said, I know what I've done. Yeah,

998
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: but to hear to hear her say it, okay. That's

999
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: why I learned the proper way to apologize. It's not

1000
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: that if I've done it, you said it so clearly

1001
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: I've done it. Intent does not matter whether you intended it.

1002
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: To do it or not.

1003
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: She's still hurt, she's still offended. Now, I apologize. The

1004
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: greatest apologist change behavior, So you can apologize a fa

1005
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: thousand times.

1006
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: But if the behavior doesn't change, you're not sorry for

1007
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: what you've done now mm hmm.

1008
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: And most of the time you never sorry. Most of

1009
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: the time you only sorry because you got caught.

1010
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 5: Me.

1011
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I just thought that

1012
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: it was like, and we're better off as friends. We're

1013
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: better off as friends. Were cool, we have a bet.

1014
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: I think the biggest problem that we had, Oh, Joe,

1015
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: she was young, I was young. We're trying to figure

1016
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: this thing out, which is you know, and it just

1017
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: it just wasn't to be. And as we twenty years

1018
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: after the fact, She's like, I didn't realize what I

1019
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: had to you. Come on, man, they never they never

1020
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: do to listen to. I've never met a man that

1021
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: works as hard as you and as disciplined as you are.

1022
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: But you're very proferful. You're not gonna let nobody push

1023
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: you around. You're not gonna let nobody talk reckless to you. No,

1024
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: because I don't talk reckless to you. I'm not gonna

1025
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: call you out of your name because I got I

1026
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't want nobody to call my sister, my mom, or

1027
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: my grandma my name after name, so I don't call

1028
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: women out their name. And now and now I had daughters,

1029
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: and I definitely don't want nobody to call them out

1030
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: their name. So I'm very respectful. I'm very understanding of

1031
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: that for me, and a lot of times I was

1032
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: I had uh, I was messing with this young lady

1033
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: and uh, she would like start to argue. I was like,

1034
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: you know what, you're right, I'm gonna let you have that.

1035
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Get upset. She's like, we never gonna figure anything out.

1036
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: I said, I say, in order, I would rather keep

1037
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: the peace right. Let you be right. It's not that

1038
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: big of a deal to me.

1039
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: I like that. It's not that big of a deal

1040
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: to me. I'm I'm not finna go back and forth

1041
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: and argue with you over so you're right.

1042
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: But it hurted her. It bothered her because you would

1043
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: already back. She said that I want to get away.

1044
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: I say, well, if you want to underst me, just ask.

1045
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't feel I need to get into an argument

1046
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: to disagree with you. For the help you understand me,

1047
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I don't want to talk about that.

1048
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: We see things differently, and just because we see things differently,

1049
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: I see things differently than you because of my age.

1050
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: You see things how you see them because of your age.

1051
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm right, that doesn't mean you're wrong.

1052
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: But we're gonna see things differently because I was raised

1053
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: in a different error. M. But I'm willing to accept

1054
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: you for who you are and the area you was

1055
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: raised in. I you know, I want to.

1056
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: Say, but I think the thing is, O Joe.

1057
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: I went in and because I really skept it up first,

1058
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I dad, but I was like,

1059
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna go. It's just like anything,

1060
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: oh Joe, I can't do anything half asked. I'm spending

1061
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: this my money. So if I'm spending my money, I'm

1062
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna get the most out of it. So I went

1063
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: there and I saw it, and I came every day,

1064
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: I mean not every day, but every week, right, and

1065
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: I call that lady just like. And the thing is,

1066
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, and then you know and during the pandemic,

1067
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: you know you couldn't be in person, Hey, FaceTime?

1068
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 2: That really that when I started FaceTime. Damn, I gotta

1069
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 2: call this lady on FaceTime. Damn.

1070
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: You were really into it like that. Yes, Oh, I

1071
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: don't know how to have fast anything. I don't right, right,

1072
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: and and and and and and for me, it's as obsession.

1073
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: I get to say, that's what and that's why I'm

1074
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: like when I when I'm good at something, I'm really

1075
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: really good at it. But I don't waste my time

1076
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: with stuff that I'm not. Right, I go all in,

1077
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: Yes I was, I was one thousand percent.

1078
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: I was taking notes.

1079
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: She's like, well, take notes, oh Joe, I've taken notes, Andy,

1080
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: she says something, Nik, I write it down.

1081
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 2: Called me, she called me. She called me a black

1082
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 2: s O B.

1083
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: Right. See, that's how that's how it be.

1084
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 4: That's how it can be, you know, very very meticulous,

1085
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 4: very very detailed, very deep and jotting everything down. And

1086
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: see the one thing, the one thing, I don't forget anything.

1087
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: I don't forget anything that I said. I don't forget

1088
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: anything that I heard. I don't forget anything that.

1089
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: I've sought.

1090
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: Ever right, you not hear me?

1091
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: Ever right?

1092
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: I got. I got the memory of an elephant.

1093
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1094
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 4: But so as time go as time goes on, which

1095
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 4: is why I was thinking about, you know, doing something

1096
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: like that. But then the price points you talk about, like,

1097
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. I'm not sitting down and giving

1098
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: you that kind of money just to hear you from me,

1099
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: to tell you my problems and you to regurgitate what

1100
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: you think the issues.

1101
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: Are with me? Honestly, Oh yo, for me.

1102
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: If I care about somebody, there's not amount of money

1103
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: enough that I wouldn't spend to try to make it work, right, right,

1104
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: Because that's how what I mean.

1105
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm in If I care, I care?

1106
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: Right?

1107
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: We dating?

1108
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: You need something? I got you? Yeah? Right?

1109
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: Uh, That's that's how I am because I've taken time

1110
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: out of I've taken time out of my schedule to

1111
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: try to get to know you on a level. And

1112
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: I spent that kind of time. I done got a year,

1113
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: I done got two years. I ain't got three years.

1114
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to just throw it away. Not just me,

1115
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me I was in love

1116
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: with this person for three years, four years and one

1117
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: incident make me throw it all the way?

1118
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: M I just.

1119
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm sure there are probably things that

1120
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: she probably could have done that would would make me

1121
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: do that. But because I know I'm not perfect and

1122
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm flawed, and I put people in situations that I've

1123
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: asked for a second chance and they graciously gave that. Hmm.

1124
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: That's what That's why, Oh Joe, That's why I say

1125
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll never ask more than I'm willing to give. Wow,

1126
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: that's why I don't go, hey, ain't no woman. You

1127
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: ain't gonna find nobody in the last I bet you

1128
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: can't find one person last thirty years. Say Shannon Shark

1129
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: called me at two o'clock, one o'clock midnight and came

1130
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: over to my house. I don't ever ask more than

1131
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give. I don't do that because I

1132
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: don't want you to call me. Don't call me at

1133
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: one o'clock and that, First of all, I ain't gonna

1134
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: answer the phone. Second of all, you don't got you

1135
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: no late night mood, go like, ha, where you at?

1136
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: But I'm sleeping. I'm sleeping the club. I'm sleeping. Well,

1137
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: actually I'm not sleeping. I'm thinking, like I ask you done,

1138
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: Probably you don't. Probably send me a message, and I'm

1139
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: thinking about, Okay, what I got to do with blah

1140
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: blah blah.

1141
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: I got sponsors, I got this. I gotta, you know,

1142
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: jump on the call. I got to do a zoom

1143
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: meeting about this. I gotta, you know, talk to no.

1144
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: The right one to hang you up, the right the

1145
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: right one to get you. You're gonna have you up.

1146
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: You're not finna call me that time of night. O't Joe,

1147
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: I call yo, I'm I don't sleep well anyway. I'll

1148
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: probably sleep by four or five hours. That's all I sleep,

1149
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: and then I get me an hour and nap during

1150
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: the day. Nah, it ain't that serious, I don't. I mean, look,

1151
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: I love sex like the next man. I don't love

1152
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: it that much not to get up at the one o'clock,

1153
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning. Oh no, no, no, no,

1154
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean you called somebody at one o'clock in the morning.

1155
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: You up now, when I was young?

1156
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 8: Oh yo, okay, okay, okay, okay, no year seventy thought

1157
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 8: when I was young, okay, man.

1158
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: I was when I was asleep.

1159
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: Bo boom boom boom boom boom.

1160
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: Look at that clock two fifteen. I said, oh no,

1161
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: oh Joe, oh man, yeah, oh Joe.

1162
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 4: I was.

1163
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie I was bad, but I say, boy,

1164
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: oh man, I go downstairs on Yoe, open the door.

1165
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Somebody said, you've been talking about me. I said,

1166
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: what she had on? Something real scantily She was scantily clad.

1167
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: I said what I said, come.

1168
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 7: On in.

1169
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: You over here, now, you the guy here up yere,

1170
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: You're about to get what you're looking for.

1171
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 9: Right.

1172
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: That was the oh yo, I remember. Let me tell

1173
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: you true story, O Joe. This was in nineteen ninety three.

1174
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I had just moved into the breakers.

1175
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1176
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: Every said that. I said, Nah, I'm good.

1177
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: That was it. I I can't do it, Ojoe, I

1178
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: can't do it because, you know what, in my mind,

1179
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: I think it's something gonna happen. I'm going somewhere. I

1180
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: supposed to be home, being the bed, sleep, I on

1181
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: a job. Something happened, trying to have a blah blah blah.

1182
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: Shanna was supposed to be in the bed. That's on

1183
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: my mind. I always think when I'm not suppos when

1184
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be doing what I'm supposed to

1185
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: be doing. If I try to bear off from that,

1186
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: that's why I do the same thing over and over.

1187
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 2: I'm in my own head.

1188
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm good, I'm good. All right, Oh Joe,

1189
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: let's get back on track. Now it's time for our

1190
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: last second mother Evening. It's time for Q and eight.

1191
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: Damn no, hey, I'm a good Manna, We're gonna be

1192
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 4: it all off track.

1193
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: He was definitely off track.

1194
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: MD said, Uh, if your team ain't win today, I

1195
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you say foot or ball.

1196
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, old Joe, get him, Bronco not Raven. You a

1197
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: lad Rover.

1198
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me ask you what, oh Joe, if

1199
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: I want to if you don't want to a super

1200
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: Bowl with the over the big, with their Patriots, you

1201
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: ain't gonna claim you.

1202
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna claim them. No I'm not. Yeah you are.

1203
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm not because I didn't contribute to that super Bowl.

1204
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: But I'm saying if you had a you got him.

1205
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: There are you helped?

1206
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 5: No?

1207
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'm I'm Bango. That's it.

1208
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 9: I'm a Bronco and a Raven. Okay, I'm a braving.

1209
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 9: If that makes you happy, then so be it.

1210
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm a braver Bronco slash Raven.

1211
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1212
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: That be saying the Broncos beating the Chiefs gave them

1213
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: false hope. No, I didn't. You needed to win that

1214
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: game to get into the playoffs. You Look, there's levels

1215
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: to this.

1216
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: Uh.

1217
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: There are very few teams that you know, get there in.

1218
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: The first year and they wining all the way, especially

1219
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: when you get dealing with a rookie quarterback and boiled

1220
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. But look, they got they got confidence

1221
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 1: when they had the chief an arrowhead on the rope

1222
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs blocked the field goal or they would

1223
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: have lost that game. So if you could go back

1224
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: and study the history, the Broncos have always played the

1225
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: chief even with my homes played them. Remember two years

1226
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: ago they beat them and beat them bad. So the

1227
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: Broncos feel very comfortable playing the Chiefs. But it didn't

1228
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: give false hope then. I don't think they thought they

1229
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: would go win the Super Bowl. King King Govan said, yo,

1230
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: up after that first TV hit us up with that port.

1231
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: That's all, folks, I feel a good though. I did.

1232
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: I I said, you know what I was about. I

1233
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: was like, no, shout to calm down, get a goodest

1234
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: couple of more of these tubs and then you'll be okay.

1235
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: But then I was like, no, uh, jasey uh if

1236
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: your team didn't win today, I don't want to hear

1237
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: you say for the ball.

1238
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: Uh hell to the.

1239
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all got me, y'all, got y'all, y'all got your boy, y'all,

1240
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: y'all get your little lamb falling now.

1241
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: But I'll be back when next season. Hope we played

1242
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

1243
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 4: Oh matter of fact, I saw the schedule for twenty

1244
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 4: twenty five. The Broncos played the Bengals.

1245
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: Where y'll y'all play, Where y'll play, Where y'all play,

1246
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: y'all come to us.

1247
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: It don't matter.

1248
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: Call it battles.

1249
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, it don't.

1250
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: I might go out there. I might, I might go

1251
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: out to the country to see that one.

1252
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: It absolutely don't matter. Believe that. Uh what happened to

1253
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: your Broncos today. I appreciate both of y'all. Man, we

1254
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: got to hand it to us. Bro they know, you know,

1255
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: but see I like it like this. Oh yo, I

1256
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: like when a team beating breaks off here, because that

1257
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: way you know we're not there yet.

1258
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: You win by you lose by touchdown, you lose by

1259
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: field goal.

1260
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: You're like, man, we were right there, you know you

1261
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: weren't right there where it was seven nothing, seven three,

1262
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: and then once they went to ten to seven, it

1263
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: was over All you could see was tail lights.

1264
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: Flag on the play. Oh your need a sippy cup?

1265
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: He do?

1266
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: He ain't used to drag it like that. JR.

1267
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: Fifty five forty three, Baltimore City, Your honorary assistant coaching read.

1268
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 1: When the Rads went to the Super Bowl for telling

1269
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: them how to use their hendry. They need to see

1270
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: you boys up. They did to see you boys up. Nah.

1271
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: Just uh.

1272
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: Damn. I ain't gonna be able to go to the game.

1273
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be able to I ain't gonna be

1274
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: able to be there because I gotta be at I

1275
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: gotta be at NYC.

1276
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: Monday comes. Uh the Bier Studio.

1277
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: Who play tomorrow? The Rams play, uh Minnesota, Ral play

1278
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: in Minnesota in Arizona. Hey, it's only one game tomorrow, yeah,

1279
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: dang you man.

1280
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: And then you got you know, you got two games Saturday,

1281
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: two games Sunday. Yeah.

1282
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: I think Kansas City, because they were off the buye

1283
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: teams play on Saturday, don't they? Kenna City places Houston

1284
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: on Saturday, or they play them on Sunday. I would

1285
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: think they would make them play on Saturday since they've

1286
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: been off.

1287
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: What. Yeah, that's only there.

1288
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: That should be a good one tomorrow, man.

1289
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah it should.

1290
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 1: Brian West said, with the Packers having the injury bug,

1291
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: this game would have been would you rather have the

1292
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: injury bug?

1293
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: It had a cruisier game.

1294
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: The defense, offense excluding the quarterback or also oho Burton

1295
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati needs some guidance when it comes down to

1296
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: the When it comes down to the sometimes it's about

1297
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: all about a war of attrition. Who's the healthiest, not

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Speaker 1: who's the better team. Who's the healthiest team At the

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Speaker 1: time in which we played, you might be the better team.

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: But if you got.

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01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: Injuries, injuries to keep players and they're not able to participate, well,

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01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you level the playing field. Yeah,

1303
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: and once you get to once you get to a

1304
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: certain level, the teams are pretty even. Yeah, especially once

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: you get to the playoffs. Yes, I mean look at

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: look at look at look at Baltimore. Uh uh uh

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Speaker 1: uh in Buffalo, mm hmmm. MVP quarterbacks both have been

1308
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: to the uh uh Lamar's one, but MVP candidates this

1309
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: year both have been to the Pro Bowl, Mahomes and Stroud.

1310
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: Mahomes has a little bit more condigials, but Stroud has

1311
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: been to with Offensive Rookie of the Year been to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Those guys, you see what's what's what's transpired.

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Speaker 1: Jane dais Offensive Rookie of the Year going to the

1314
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Jared goff uh been to the Super Bowl.

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: He's going to the Pro Bowl. So it levels I

1316
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: mean now it comes down execution now, but you get injured,

1317
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: hopefully everybody. For the most part. I think Washington is

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: fairly healthy. The Lions that beat up a little bit,

1319
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: but they've been playing without their guys for an extended

1320
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: period of time, so they've kind of hit their rhythm.

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Speaker 2: Mojoe, we know what we know.

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01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: It's not like they've got these rational injuries in the

1323
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 1: last two weeks. They've been dealing with injuries and they've

1324
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: got Okay, we got our rotation, now let's go play. Uh,

1325
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: but you're right, O Joe. Burton had got himself into

1326
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: some trouble. I don't really know a whole lot about it,

1327
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: just about what I read, but he definitely needs somebody

1328
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: that can to talk to him. And like young man, Hey,

1329
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: you got a great opportunity. Don't waste this opportunity there.

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01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: You can't mess it up. Truy Lawd says say she

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01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: unicorn And oh Joe, what equipment of the player did

1332
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: you hate the most to put on for the game?

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: I ain't have nobody helping the show the pass.

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: Right the same thing I ain't. I ain't wear nothing else.

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01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: I was light as possible. Hell, if I could have

1336
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: gone out there with that without the shoulder pads, I

1337
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: probably would have. I ain't go down there without a

1338
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: helmet now, but the shoulder pads I could. But you

1339
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: want to be as light as you possibly can. And

1340
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: uh but naw, I looked at that helmet and the

1341
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: shoulder pads.

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01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 2: That's that's my armor. Put it on that shield. I'm

1343
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: going into battle.

1344
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Tyron said, what a looking on your wish

1345
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: team is better suited to beat the Chiefs, Bills or

1346
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:26,679
Speaker 1: the Ravens.

1347
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 4: Both both both got dual three quarterbacks and and both

1348
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 4: of them get it done a different way.

1349
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: Both can extend, both can extend plays. Both can by time.

1350
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: We saw Labar by time, by time, by time, by time,

1351
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: find a guy in the back of the end zone,

1352
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: by time, find hell we see Allen by time, by time,

1353
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: by time, finding the running back. So because there they

1354
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 1: can beat you with their arms and their legs, you

1355
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: have to be every you have to defend every blade of.

1356
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 2: Grass when you're geting with those guys.

1357
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: They can get out wide, they can hey, they can

1358
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 1: keep the ball, they can throw the ball over your head.

1359
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: They just both of these teams feel very We saw

1360
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo beat them this year in Buffalo. If they play again,

1361
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: they have to meet again. Obviously, this was being Kansas

1362
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,919
Speaker 1: City where they haven't had the same level of success

1363
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: in Kansas City in the playoffs as they have in

1364
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: the regular season. The Ravens, the Ravens want. The Ravens

1365
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: want this. Both teams want it because they realized in

1366
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: order for them to get the credit that they need deserve,

1367
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go through They want to go

1368
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: through Kansas City.

1369
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lamar says, Look, we have them on the roads.

1370
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: We had them dead to right our first game of

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01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: the season, and we left those jokers off the hook.

1372
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo get a job on them when they were in

1373
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: our remember, yep, likely, yep, you're absolutely right. The wise

1374
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: guy t cg unking out. You'll love both of you

1375
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: from Kansas City. Ask for Dame Januels Daniels, that dude

1376
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: is superb. Best in the NFC was versus and I

1377
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: guess best in the NFC Washington versus Chiefs Super Bowl.

1378
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: That's asking an awful lot. I don't know, I don't believe,

1379
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not picking them to beat Detroit. I'm

1380
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: just going in and say that now I'm not picking

1381
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: them to beat De Truit. Now, it's gonna be a

1382
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tall task. Yeah, you're asking awful

1383
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: lot command Detroit. But they can put up points quick

1384
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: or her and a bunch of them. Oh yeah, then

1385
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 1: a bunch of them, and they can win the multitude

1386
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: of wave. They can win a field goal game. They

1387
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: can score fifty on you. Washington's gonna have to play

1388
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: one of their better games unless they can force Jaggar.

1389
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: Now we've seen them turn the ball over Ojoe. Yeah.

1390
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: Now when you turn them all over the playoff time,

1391
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: even if you have to superior your team, you dropped

1392
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: down and you raised them up to your level.

1393
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

1394
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a very interesting game. Well, we'll

1395
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: find out a lot on Saturday. Marco Polo, I believe c. J.

1396
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: Strouds should watch Filmo Peyton Manning. Do you believe if

1397
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: he audibles more will help? Will that help?

1398
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: Is gay? Well, that's an awful lot.

1399
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: Look, yes, Look, if you can't put too much on

1400
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: his plate like that, Peyton. What you see Peyton coming

1401
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: to the leak? Payton was doing that in college. Yeah,

1402
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: they't a whole lot of Peyton Manny. They didn't even

1403
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: ask Brady, did you bet Peyton Manning think about that.

1404
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,879
Speaker 1: They didn't ask Breeze to be to be that. Peyton

1405
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: ran the offensive meetings. Do y'all understand what I'm saying?

1406
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: Not the offensive coordinator, Peyton, he ran everything he's telling guys.

1407
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: I want you here, I want you here, run this

1408
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: rock this place. I want you here back. I want

1409
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: you to check he do to run the rim, run

1410
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: bro that you're probably never going to see another Peyton again.

1411
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 2: Brope, I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it.

1412
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: But c J is gonna be fine, just in his

1413
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: second year.

1414
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: Uh pa thirty other I better ball of shade on

1415
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: the pit game, A man of my words. I'm gonna

1416
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: order the collector's edition. How about you?

1417
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

1418
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: Joe signed that for me. I like to hear y'all

1419
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: pit quarterback situation for next year? Uh I think Russ,

1420
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: you look. The problem with Pittsburgh, Oyoe, Yeah, is that

1421
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 1: they always went enough.

1422
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: Game that they're never in position to get one of

1423
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:28,919
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks.

1424
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: If you think about it, Big Ben fail in their laps,

1425
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: but when you make the playoffs, you weigh down and

1426
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 1: so all the quarterbacks are gonna be gone, and so

1427
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: now you pick it in the second round and you're

1428
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: getting the guy you got.

1429
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: What was the guy they got as Cody Pickett with

1430
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: a picket picket?

1431
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Kenny, that's a lot of pressure for a

1432
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: hometown kid played that pit. I mean, think about it, Ohoe.

1433
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: The Panthers share that building with the Steelers. You go left,

1434
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: you go to the Panther side, you go right, you

1435
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: go to the Steeler side. So he's been pulling up

1436
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: to that all the time. Now instead of going left,

1437
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: he's going right. And he's a hometown kid.

1438
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: A lot.

1439
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Samuel Griffords, Hey, Uk and o'hoe. If you were

1440
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: GM of the Broncos, what the big the biggest area

1441
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: of need for that team to be more competitive next year?

1442
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: Tight end?

1443
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: I like the receivers, maybe get a look, maybe maybe

1444
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: get a little. I like the Titans.

1445
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 2: I like something. I like memes.

1446
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they made some good plays down the strets

1447
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: for you. Maybe running back. I thought Javonte Willis be

1448
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: a little better. But McLaughlin, I think that's McLaughlin. He

1449
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: got most of the snap and plus I don't like that.

1450
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't like that they ran a slide to the

1451
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: running back roll on the short side of the field. Well,

1452
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: he ain't got nowhere to turn. I mean, he got

1453
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: to do a better job of understanding where he e

1454
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: is to try to turn up and not run out

1455
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: of the bounds on fourth and two. But I didn't

1456
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: like that play call. But I think I think me personally, Uh,

1457
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: running back tied end offense line pretty solid. Maybe another

1458
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 1: part I love Alan. They got great Cooper and Botino.

1459
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: Maybe a safety thaky. The defense is not It's not that.

1460
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the defense really good John Davis, me and

1461
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: the wife and counselor, and it helped I pray I

1462
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: pay a hundred, like once or twice. But my guy

1463
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 1: has a doctor degree, and there's a psychologist love us.

1464
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: A psychologist love the show. Thank you. Yeah.

1465
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: But bro, look, I mean she's like, well, Channon, you

1466
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: know you can come every two weeks and say, nah,

1467
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: I want to do this every week.

1468
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 2: I want to do it every week because I want

1469
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: to I want to know the route of why I am,

1470
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: how I am?

1471
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: Uh? Is it me? What am I doing? How could

1472
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: I be better? I want to be better. I want

1473
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: to be better for me and if I'm better for me,

1474
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: I'll be better for her. H. That's the way I

1475
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: look at it. O Yo and h you know, I

1476
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: think that's a small price to pay. Obviously, everybody don't

1477
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: have the means that I have to be able to

1478
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: do that. So maybe you can only go once a month, right, Okay,

1479
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 1: but you know, hey, it's if it's better to have

1480
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: somebody here that doesn't have a dog in the fight,

1481
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: because a lot of times her side, her family, her

1482
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: friends gonna take her side, your family, your friend's gonna

1483
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: take their side. Right. Uh. But like I said, my sister,

1484
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, who side you home? But oh,

1485
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: that's the way it goes sometimes, don't Joe. And then

1486
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: you come to the realization, you know what, Joe, Hey,

1487
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: you did everything you could.

1488
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 2: It's just they meant to be.

1489
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try that is they.

1490
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: Meant to be. Guys.

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01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us for another episode of nightcap

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01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 1: Ooh great wild Card weekend Saturday and Sunday. Now we

1493
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: know the matchups. The matchup the Commanders are headed to

1494
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: Detroit the winner of Minnesota and the Rams will head

1495
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: to Philly. Baltimore travels to Buffalo, The Texans travels to

1496
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: celebrate the new year with a bottle of Shave by Laportier.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't find it in a city or

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Speaker 1: state near you, order it with ship it directly to

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Speaker 1: you and please drink responsibly. Please go follow my media

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Speaker 1: company page on all of its platform Shayshed Media and

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Speaker 1: my clothing company eighty four with eighty four being spelled out.

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Speaker 1: Our newest release just dropped last month. We got new shirts,

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Speaker 1: sweats as well as beanies and cousin and mugs. Quantities

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Speaker 1: are limited, so please grab yours wild supplies last tickets

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl show in New Orleans, our first

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Speaker 1: spring tour stop are on sale now and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be held at the Mahelia Jackson Theater. The link is

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Speaker 1: pinned at the top of the chat. February the sixth

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Be there, you don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 1: Both Nightcap and Club Shaysha are both nominated for NAACP

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Speaker 1: Image Awards. Nightcap was nominated for Outstanding Podcasts, Arts, Sports

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Speaker 1: and Entertainment. Club Shaysha was nominated for Outstanding Podcast Society

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Speaker 1: and Culture. Please go vote for us. The link is

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Speaker 1: pinned and our social bios. The Commanders get a last

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Speaker 1: second field goal by Zaye Gonzalez. It hit the upright,

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Speaker 1: but it only matters if it went through, and it

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Speaker 1: did if they win on a walk off twenty three

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Speaker 1: to twenty. Jade Daniels was sensational. The Packers defeated the

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Speaker 1: Eagles wenty two to ten Saint Kwa rush fo one

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Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen yards. The Eagles defense picked up Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love three times and that was enough for them to

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Speaker 1: go to the Divisional round of the playoffs next week,

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Speaker 1: where they'll host the winner of the Minnesota Rams game

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo beat my Broncos thirty one to seven. It

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Speaker 1: was a great run. We had a great season. We

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Speaker 1: had a great season, but it didn't end like we

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Speaker 1: wanted to. Joe didn't end like we wanted to. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got kill.

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Speaker 2: There's always next year.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots hire Mike Brabel to be their next coach

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Speaker 1: after they five Girard Mayo one year.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Mike Brabel takes over that concluded nightcap. I'm up, he's

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Speaker 1: O Joe. We'll see you tomorrow after the Lions Vikings

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Speaker 1: Game two. So we'll wrap that up. Put a knife

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Speaker 1: bowl on back. We have a lot of other stuff

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Speaker 1: to talk about. I'm almost certain. Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I'm up, He's O Joe. We will see you my roll,

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Speaker 1: good night, Volume