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Speaker 1: going I'm John Schmilk, He's Jeff Beacles. How are you.

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Speaker 1: sure you go when you find it. So, Jeff, how

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Speaker 1: you been welcome? I'm doing good. I mean Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: I had to buy two now, so you know about

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Speaker 1: two weeks to kind of think about where the science

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Speaker 1: you give if you gave it any thought over the

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Speaker 1: past two weeks, what kind of what kind of thoughts

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Speaker 1: did you give? I did? I actually was thinking a

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Speaker 1: little bit driving in today, um about this subject, because

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times you have these buys,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot I think I think buys are

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Speaker 1: depending on where you're at as far as your your team. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're an eight and two team and

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Speaker 1: don't fix it at eight and two, right, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: there is some onus on the players here. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: We've got to get the running games. So I agree

428
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Speaker 1: with you, But I don't think teams have stopped focusing

429
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Speaker 1: on stopping say Kwon Barkley. I think teams are still

430
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 1: locked in on that. So I you're right, him being

431
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 1: him up front on the Jets are stopping it in

432
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 1: control on that then, but they aren't. They aren't, you know,

433
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: But concentrate and more on on on receiving and that

434
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 1: then you know what I mean on the passing game.

435
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 1: But Joe, here's the thing. If you get into third

436
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 1: and long, yes, absolutely, but on first and second down,

437
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 1: teams don't have four or five players in the box. Uh. Whatever,

438
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 1: it just seems so easy there. Uh, Jeff, what I

439
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 1: want to say to you? There? You did? Did I

440
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: hear you say you thought defense is easier played in offense? Yes?

441
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't know where. I don't want to argue with you,

442
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: but you're here for wide receivers running out patterns than

443
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: defensive players. Uh, defensive bacts trying to fall them. No, no, Joe, Joe,

444
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: Jeff didn't mean that. He just means from a knowing

445
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 1: a playbook and from like a schematics stand. Thank you, Jay?

446
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: Does that make more sense to you there? Because I

447
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: think it's just concentration. I don't know what he is.

448
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: He has all the guilties and that, Okay, I don't

449
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: think I don't think that. I don't think that he's

450
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: coming to work thinking that there's everything is you know,

451
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: bright he knows. But listen, I it doesn't matter who

452
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: you are, kickers and punters and long snappers. It's all mental.

453
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 1: It's all mental, okay, unless you're hurt. Okay, Like if

454
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 1: a long snapper's shoulders hurt, you know he's gonna have

455
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: a problem. If the hip is hurting you and kicking

456
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna have a problem. They're not hurt. None of

457
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: the guys are hurt. It's all up here, is between

458
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: the ears and above the eyes. That's exactly what it is.

459
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: And it's a tough thing to do. And believe me,

460
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: it's just like we talked about Dion Baker, right, okay,

461
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker. I mean, he's out there on an island

462
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: by himself. What do you He has all the talent

463
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: in the world, it's all in his head, right. He

464
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: has to learn how to get over being a cornerback

465
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: is short term memory, right, to get improved on it.

466
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: Kickers and punters, that is the one thing that they

467
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: have to learn how to adjust to is the mental

468
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: parts of the game. That's why you last so long.

469
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: That's why I lasted so long. I'm just tell you

470
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: right now. I was good at what I did, but

471
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: physically as I got older, it was tougher to do it.

472
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: But mentally nothing bothered me, and I could handle all

473
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: the pressures and execute the kicks. That's what it is,

474
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: and that's what Autre has to do. He's just gonna

475
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: have to go back and hopefully this two weeks off

476
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: helped him mentally. It came at a good time, right,

477
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is in a slump. If there's

478
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Speaker 1: ever time they get out of a slump during the

479
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: during the bi although, I will tell you if you're

480
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: in a slump going into the Bible, oh my god,

481
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: it feels like it feels like a month before you

482
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Speaker 1: play again. And I'll tell you one of the things

483
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: I'm seeing with Aldrich. You look at his attempts. Kickers

484
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: are rhythm guys. They're like pictures if you're getting one

485
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: field goal attempt a game or I mean, that's that's tough.

486
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: And I know it's not an excuse, but it's rhythm

487
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: crack just during the week, help with that or practice

488
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 1: during the week is all the same. The prosy point.

489
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: Can you get into a rhythm by maybe kicking extra

490
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: during the week or does it all kind of just

491
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: reset once you hit the field on game. My point

492
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: is it's like you know, during the week, John like pick,

493
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: we're kind of like on a pitch count, right, you

494
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: kind of do that, you see the guy They do

495
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: the same drills every week every time, so that's the same,

496
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: but the games are never the same. One. You might

497
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: go a week or two with just one kick and

498
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: then all a sudden have four in one game. If

499
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: you look at his what he had last year, thirty

500
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: two of thirty three, that's a lot of fuel goals.

501
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: He's probably got half of those this year, right, I mean,

502
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: hasn't hasn't had a lot of roots, like a lot

503
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: of rhythm and games going into it, getting one in

504
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: the first quarter and zero and then all of a sudden,

505
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: you come back in the fourth quarter and you've got

506
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: to kick. You'd like to get into some porter and

507
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: and part of that rhythm is is by the way,

508
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: is extra points. Let's score some touchdowns to get in there.

509
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: And because a few are going on extra point to

510
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: these days are pretty much the same, right, All right,

511
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Speaker 1: let's go to Phil in North Carolina. He's up next

512
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Speaker 1: on Big Blue Kick Golf Live. Hey Phil, Hey, um

513
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: so so John, just the point, you've been killing it

514
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: with the analysis, so really good stuff. Thank you. It's yeah.

515
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about uh kind of relative gauge

516
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: of how we're doing in the draft the last two

517
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: years versus personnel decisions, and uh it was kind of

518
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: stemmed from the fact that, uh, I read that Eli

519
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: Apple is ranked in the PFF cornerback ranking, which made

520
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: me think I wonder if we had him instead of

521
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker, if we would have had another winn or two. Uh.

522
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: But but anyways, you know, I think we're doing relatively

523
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: well in the draft, you know, part if you think

524
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: about it as a fifty fifty proposition, But in the

525
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: personnel moves, I'm not sure if we're at you know,

526
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Speaker 1: it seems like we're less and I'm thinking part of

527
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: it is just the mentality of clean house versus actually

528
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: assessing talent, and it's a little bit of a trouble

529
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: I have with it. But yeah, I just wanted to

530
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: get your take and and I'll listen off to the air.

531
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Phil, Thank you. I think the drafts

532
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: have actually been pretty good, to be honest with you.

533
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Phil, Thank you. But um, you know,

534
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker struggled. You want obviously you'd like to see

535
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: him play better. Connell who was playing well before he

536
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: got hurt. Slayton has done well for his draft slot.

537
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Julian Love get on the field,

538
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: see what he can do. We need to see more

539
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,959
Speaker 1: of Corey Valentine as lock corner. Just two games out

540
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: of him, we got to see more. I think Dexter

541
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: Lawrence has has has been a positive. What do you

542
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: think it is with with Love, Julian Love. I think

543
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: he's learning a new position. I mean, he's basically been

544
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: moved to safety at this point, right so, and he

545
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: did not play safety at Notre Dame. So I think

546
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: they're taking kind of a long view with him. Let's

547
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: get him acclimated to this new position, get him ready,

548
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: Let's not put him out there before he's ready, and

549
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: then get him out there on the field. I would

550
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: like to see him in a couple of games before

551
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: the season is up. I think you will. I think

552
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: you will. I mean, uh, And I think that's a

553
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: good point, um, because if you just think how hard

554
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: it is to play this game when you come in

555
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: and play at a position you've been playing as a

556
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: and as a coach, Jeff, you've seen a secondary that's

557
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: certain players didn't have made a lot of mental mistakes

558
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: with you know, guys just running free things like that.

559
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: If you're trying to solve that problem, do you really

560
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: want to take your fourteen year veteran out of the

561
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: lineup the guy that lines everybody up and get some

562
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: ready pre snap and replace him with the rookie. That's

563
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: not going to help that problem. YEA, At some point,

564
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I know a lot of times you

565
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: know the season is too your two and eight and

566
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: you know you're mathematically still in it. Um, but there

567
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: comes a point in time when you do have to

568
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: to go out there and play some of these younger

569
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: guys um some snaps and maybe if it's if it's

570
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: that game is out of hand, then maybe that's when

571
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 1: you insert the new guy in for the old guy,

572
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: but certainly not start him. Yeah, I can go with

573
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: you there. So it's tough. And then last year, I

574
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: think there has to be some disappointment with the lack

575
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: of production in year two from Lorenzo Quarter and b

576
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 1: J Hill in terms of Russia is definitely down. I mean,

577
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: obviously he had the five and a half sacks last year,

578
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: three coming in one game, played very well towards the

579
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: end of the season, but really has not been that

580
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: type of we haven't seen that type of step up

581
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: to the next level. And now Leonard Williams is taking

582
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: some of his snaps since he's been acquired. Lorenzo Quarter

583
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: I think has been a good player. He's shown he's

584
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: a good football player. We just haven't seen him be

585
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: a dynamic pass rusher quite yet from down to down.

586
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: Otherwise last year, I mean, I think obviously se Kuan's

587
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: deal with injuries this year. But kon Um, I don't

588
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: have the list in front of h I'm just kind

589
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: of going off the top of my head here too.

590
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: But um, otherwise, you know, I think the draft classes

591
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: have done pretty well, though obviously I'm not gonna judge

592
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: any draft classes in totality after one or two years,

593
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: that's still you gotta wait about three before you have

594
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: a field for the third years when you can and

595
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean and I don't mean going into the third

596
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: year because you might as would do it now if

597
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this, you you gotta wait till

598
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: that third years over to see how the maturation of

599
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: those players has has. And and again there's guys like

600
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: like Darius Slayton. Did you all think that Darius Slayton

601
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: was gonna come in here and have the production and

602
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: he was gonna have this year? In no way, that

603
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: absolutely not. So those are kind of the stories that

604
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: you you like to hear but you've got to have

605
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Will Hernandez was the second round. Okay,

606
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: so he's still learning to play. I don't think he's

607
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: really played up to his potential. I don't think I

608
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: think he's regressed a little bit this year. I don't

609
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: think he's taken the jump for sure. You know I

610
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: agree with that, and you know, listen, my point with

611
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: Darius is that you as a personnel department and an organization,

612
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: you you're gonna have to hit on some of those

613
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: players like Darius Slayton. You have to do okay, because

614
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: because that's what's been haunted as by the past, is

615
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: that they haven't. It's the only way you fill out

616
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: of roster. And so that's where you're banking on Dave

617
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: Yentlman and his staff to go out and find those guys.

618
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: And if you look at the story behind Darius Slayton,

619
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: how they found him, this is a great story. And listen, look,

620
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: he's the favorite target of Daniel Jones. Now what do

621
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: you think of O'Shane Zimanez so far? I think that

622
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: he's from old dominion. I think that he has he's

623
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: I think he's ahead of the curve. I think he's

624
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: a kid that's gonna get better quickly. I thought he's

625
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: played decently this year. I really have. I wasn't expecting.

626
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: We can't expect the world of these guys to come out.

627
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not one of the guys that think, well,

628
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: he mean, he's been so touted. No, he hasn't been touted.

629
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: He's from old dominion. Guys. Give him a chance to

630
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: play some football. He's a he's a he's a freak athlete.

631
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: I think he's got some major upsides. So I think

632
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: next year will be a really good tilt at the

633
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: end of the season. Next year, let's talk about right,

634
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to put a little bit more weight on,

635
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: not too much though, from that, if they're gonna stay

636
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: in that three four that you got those linebackers, you

637
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: don't want him to be too too big. You want

638
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Speaker 1: to be able to run, you know, and and and

639
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Speaker 1: get after the order back a little bit better. Marcus

640
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Speaker 1: Golden is a guy John that were at the beginning

641
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: of the year that we we kind of was it

642
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: was like you're betting on the come right, You're like, Okay,

643
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: is he gonna do it? And he and he has

644
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Speaker 1: come through. He's got six and a half with ten

645
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Speaker 1: with six games left, so maybe he gets four more

646
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: sacks and and in six games that will put him

647
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Speaker 1: a ten and a half snacks. That's the production we

648
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Speaker 1: wanted out of Marcus Gold. I think that's above and

649
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: beyond the production that we expected. Look, you know, I

650
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's your number one pass rusher, though I

651
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Speaker 1: think he's your I was not the helper. Were you

652
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: expecting six and a half sacks out of him this year? Six?

653
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Speaker 1: I was hoping for six or seven, Okay, Mike, And

654
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: I didn't mean I was looking for ten. I'm saying

655
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Speaker 1: if he does get four, I mean, geez, I mean,

656
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Speaker 1: this is this is kind of what we were hoping

657
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: he would have had. And and that's one of the

658
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Speaker 1: free agent moves out of worked out. Yeah, he's right.

659
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: Other ones haven't worked out as well. So that's something

660
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Speaker 1: that you know. It's tough too. You know, they're trying

661
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Speaker 1: to not invest too much money in guys that you know,

662
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: maybe are on worth the contract that they would want

663
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Speaker 1: in free agency. So I know there's a guy that

664
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Speaker 1: we don't talk much about. And I'll tell you why

665
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: we don't it's because he just does his job and

666
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: he does it well. And no, we don't ever to

667
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: really talk about him. And he's a free agent safety.

668
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is a guy that he is an outstanding

669
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Speaker 1: free agent pick up two last year. You know, we're

670
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: don't talk about much of him, but he's a consistent player.

671
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Speaker 1: Chicago's grasp, by the way, still grasp. Good luck. Let's

672
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Speaker 1: go to christ and Paramus. He's up next. Find out.

673
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Speaker 1: I looked it up online. It's the internet, Jeff. There's

674
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Speaker 1: information there Google. You put words in and it tells

675
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Speaker 1: you stuff. We will have a tutorial after the ship

676
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Speaker 1: you Chris, go ahead. What's up buddy? Happy Friday too. Uh.

677
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: It's a quick question. And I know this has kind

678
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: of been not my mind for a while. I know, Eli,

679
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: you know everything he's done for us over the you know,

680
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Speaker 1: the the length of his career, um. But this year

681
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: three million dollar calf number going into I mean, I'm

682
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: curious as to why, I know, the opt aren't that great,

683
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: why we didn't cut him and retain some of that money. Again,

684
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Speaker 1: taking the emotion out of it, looking at purely from

685
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: a financial perspective, you could have you know, taken a

686
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Speaker 1: major cut on on the on, the on the cap

687
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Speaker 1: number and the dead money. But uh, I mean I

688
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Speaker 1: think you'd retain about eleven twelve million. When did you

689
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Speaker 1: want to do that, Chris? When did you want to

690
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: do that? Well, I mean after we too, could you

691
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: have retained any money from them? No? Because let me

692
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: just tell you something. Let me tell you. Let me

693
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: tell you some economics of football. Elion Manning has never

694
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Speaker 1: been cut. He's never taken his his one time guarantee, right,

695
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: so if you cut him after a week one, you

696
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: you still have to pay him all his money? Got it?

697
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah? It's called termination pay. You can

698
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: take it one time in your career. So we'll find me,

699
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Eli mann and you cut me after a week two,

700
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Speaker 1: you're giving me all my twenty three million because I'm

701
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Speaker 1: going to take my tournament. Does it still count against

702
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: the cap though it's still twenty three million dollars? Yeah,

703
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Speaker 1: I'll go. I honestly wasn't sure. I'll tell you why

704
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: I know this because it's a funny little thing. In

705
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: NFL we used to talk about, especially kickers and punters

706
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: and snappers were guys get cut all the time, and

707
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: older and older guys. Right, so they and that's why

708
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: you always see a lot of the older guys get

709
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Speaker 1: brought back after week one because they're not on the

710
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: active roster aft on week one. But don't contracts become

711
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: guaranteed for veterans after that week one anyway, one time,

712
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: you can do it one time, okay. So we used

713
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Speaker 1: to call it double dipping. So if you're gonna cut

714
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: me on week four, right, I can go. I get

715
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Speaker 1: all my money from Team A and then I get

716
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Speaker 1: picked up by Team being. You pay me another sour,

717
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: I get two of them. I get too sour. They

718
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Speaker 1: get double dipping. So it's not as easy. And I know,

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. It's not as easy just

720
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Speaker 1: to do that unless he's taken the termination for once before.

721
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Speaker 1: But you know, there and there's I don't know all

722
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Speaker 1: about the dynamics of his contract. There could be you know,

723
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Speaker 1: stuff signing. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I

724
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Speaker 1: would honestly have to ch Chris. I'm not gonna tell

725
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Speaker 1: you percent. I know for sure I can check on

726
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: that for you if if if you want to hit

727
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Speaker 1: me up on Twitter, I can give you the answer

728
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Speaker 1: as best I can when I find out. Um, but

729
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: my my thought about it is, regardless of the money involved,

730
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Speaker 1: that they actually like Eli here to help Daniel Jones.

731
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Speaker 1: I know people kind of roll their eyes about that,

732
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Speaker 1: But let me just tell you something I see in

733
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Speaker 1: the locker room after every game. I'm in there doing

734
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: the live radio locker room and let me tell you,

735
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: after losses, and there's been plenty of them, it stinks.

736
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: It's it's bad. You gotta whisper. No one wants to

737
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: talk to you. But look, it's part of the job.

738
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Speaker 1: You gotta do it right. So every after every loss,

739
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: especially the last five or six weeks, I sit there,

740
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for Daniel Jones to get dressed. He usually

741
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Speaker 1: the first guy we do after Pat Shermer does his

742
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: press conference. And I'm waiting and I'm waiting, and every time,

743
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: every time he'll get pulled aside. Eli Mannie will come over,

744
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: pulled Daniel Jones aside and literally talk to him quietly

745
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: in hushed tones for about a minute or two. And

746
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's telling them. I have

747
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: an asked, becaus it's none of my business, but I

748
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: gotta imagine he's sitting there and telling Danie, all right,

749
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: here's what the media is gonna ask you. He's gonna

750
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: ask you about this play. This play, and here's what

751
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: you should say. And I think I'm serious because who

752
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: knows better than Eli. And I think those are the

753
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: types of things that they liked with Eli being around

754
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: to help Jones learn how to be a quarterback in

755
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: New York. He's a very high paid CEO. That's what

756
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: it is. And it was funny it was coming out

757
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: of camp. It was, you know that the coach was

758
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of the the well the teacher student relationship was

759
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: between him and Danny, Daniel Jones and Tanny. But now

760
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: it seems as though behind the scenes that there's more

761
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: to it. You know, Eli's actually because a lot of

762
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: times they really wants to portray at the starting quarterback

763
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: and and the franchise quarterback. You know, everything is so

764
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: great with the rookie coming in, but they're behind the scenes.

765
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: It may be, you know, a little different of a story,

766
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: but it seems like, you know, Eli is you know,

767
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: truly mentoring him to some extent, especially working with the media.

768
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Speaker 1: Um and so I thank you for for for providing site.

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Speaker 1: Um and and then so we're just looking ahead and

770
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: looking at UM. It seems like there's four or five

771
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: opportunities where, you know, the Giants purely from a financial

772
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: perspective and looking at the contracts and looking at productivity

773
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Speaker 1: from certain position middle linebacker, safety. I think there's a

774
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: few pieces that I mean, I think right now over

775
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: the cap as listed a sixty five sixty six million dollars,

776
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: it's you know, obviously, Gettleman to go and just do

777
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: essentially what Reest did and and pick up to three

778
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: big guys and then spend all that money, I think,

779
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: sparingly and buying pieces here and there, you know, UM

780
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: to to fit in with the culture UM. But I

781
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: think a lot of the development of this roster has

782
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: to come through the draft, sort of seeing these these

783
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: rookies come into their sophomore years and being a little

784
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: bit more productive, especially a guy like Lorenzo Carter. I

785
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: was hoping for a lot this year and didn't quite

786
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: get the production wanted. But anyways, thanks again, guys, have

787
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: a going Thank you. Grisson. Look, you have to build

788
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: through the draft, you question, and that's how good teams

789
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: get get to where they're at. I think what you

790
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: do and this is kind of what I've been thinking about,

791
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: and this is not my final plan, but generally speaking,

792
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: there are some positions in free agency that don't cost

793
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: as much. Inside linebacker, for example, a top inside linebacker

794
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: cost about half as much as the top pass rusher.

795
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Speaker 1: So maybe you go out there and you go try

796
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: to find another insigned linebacker or a veteran to help

797
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: this young group up front. And that's where you go,

798
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: and that's where you spend your money in fre agency

799
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Speaker 1: because it's not as cost prohibitive as getting a pass

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Speaker 1: rusher or a cornerback, right if you have to. I mean,

801
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: look at Colin and he's probably gonna be your guy next. Yeah,

802
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: you can't count him coming off in a cl though. Yeah,

803
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: that's a good point if he was healthy. Yeah, maybe

804
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: we can have that conversation, not of any other thing

805
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: real quickly. We'll get to the other cause about the

806
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Eli manning and behind the scenes stuff. And we also

807
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Speaker 1: don't know vocal Tree is gonna be back next ye year.

808
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: You gotta understand that there's a lot of stuff that

809
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: John and I don't know, or any of us know

810
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Speaker 1: what happens behind this. By the way, safety is another

811
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: position to where you can get a good player for

812
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: not so much. Agan names was under the top safety

813
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: designed for eight million a year. That's it. Look, it's

814
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: a lot, but it's not. It's my team. If you've

815
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: got sixty five million, eight millions, not that much. No,

816
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: it's not that much. Um So, I mean, we don't

817
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: know what people talk about behind the scenes here, you know,

818
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: in the building, and what has been said to Eli

819
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Manning in private. You know, listen, this is what we're

820
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna do. What do you want us to do? You know?

821
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Speaker 1: How can you help us? All this stuff? Could we

822
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: don't know? I mean, they could have told Eli, listen,

823
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Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen, and we're not gonna cut you,

824
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, or if we do cut you, do you

825
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: want to go play somewhere else? And he probably said no,

826
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Speaker 1: and you know whatever. So at a lot of stuff

827
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Speaker 1: that we don't know about. All right, We've got two

828
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Speaker 1: more calls. I gotta wrap the show a little bit early, folks.

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Speaker 1: no evid ingram a right, Ellison, there were fish only

836
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Speaker 1: ruled out for Sunday. It looks like though Sterling Shepards

837
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: and Norris Jenkins Nate Solder are all going to clear

838
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Speaker 1: concussion protocol if nothing weird happens, and it can happen

839
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Speaker 1: a conclussion, right, And it looks like John Hallipeo and

840
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Speaker 1: Mike Rumers are going to be back in the line

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Speaker 1: up as well, relatively healthy. Yep, good news. Coming off

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Speaker 1: to buy Mark in Chicago. He's up next. What's up,

843
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: Mac boys? How you doing? Hey? Getting back to the

844
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: Eli conversation. Can you imagine what would have happened to

845
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Speaker 1: if they cut Eli after the first few weeks of

846
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Speaker 1: the yeas and you had to put on that same

847
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Speaker 1: type of press conference in the rocket room that he

848
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: did after and Mark, by the way, throw on top

849
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: of that, and throw on top of that. It would

850
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: have been drama that you didn't want to round a

851
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: young quarterback. He would have to answer questions about that

852
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: which might have heard his development and given him a

853
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: distraction and really did we know what Daniel Jones was

854
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: going to be and how he was gonna do. I

855
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: mean maybe maybe for his own good at some point,

856
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: Eli Manning would have had to go back and go

857
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: back and be a starter. So I'm with you. I

858
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: just don't think for all those reasons you gave and

859
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: the ones we gave before, that was ever gonna happen. Yeah,

860
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: in the franchise, Um, I'm going to the game on Sunday.

861
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: And here's a couple of things that I sort of

862
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: want to see on Sunday. And you know, the defense

863
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: sort of is what it's And I say, just playing

864
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: all the young guys, Balantine love bal Baker. You know

865
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: we're giving up so many you know, uh big plays.

866
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: What difference does it make me give these guys experience

867
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: out on the field. And my opinion is if you

868
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: can't be playing after you know, week twelve, after a buy,

869
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: but maybe you shouldn't be on the fifty three man roster,

870
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you should be on the practice squad. Hey, you know, listen,

871
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: you're going to the game. You're gonna see it up

872
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: close in person. Maybe that is what they do. I

873
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: don't know, there's I always find it funny to see that.

874
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: You know, there are some teams that are good, like

875
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: when are at the beginning of the show we talked

876
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: about coming off of a bye. You know, if you're good,

877
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: you're eight and two, you're not making a lot of changes.

878
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: When you're too in eight and you've been told that

879
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: there isn't going to be any changes made. That kind

880
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: of sounds a little fishy to me. So who knows,

881
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: Maybe all those guys might be in there. Who knows,

882
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: We're not going to tell the bears right, and by

883
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: the way, most of them are. But right now it's

884
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: love and deal that are that you guys are kind

885
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: of waiting on. Yeah, yeah, on the offensive side, you know,

886
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: I didn't hear a lot about self Scout over the break.

887
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: And my opinion, and I've expressed this to Latino a

888
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: couple of times, is I see Shermer turning into a

889
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: reincarnation of his own style of Den Macadoo. I think

890
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: he's getting lady to the shotgun, running out of the shotgun.

891
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: And John you, I know you're stressed for time. But

892
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: in your analysis earlier in the week where you talked

893
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: about where the sacks are for Jones, I've always thought

894
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: you should use him more on rollouts and sprint out

895
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: using misdirection like counterplays, and and and put a fallback

896
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: in there and let him, you know, follow a fullback.

897
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: And then when you're passing situations, put Goldman in or

898
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: maybe Penny into block and put Kwan out in the spot.

899
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, they could lean Bell over in Pittsburgh.

900
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: He was a dynamic receiver out there, and I think

901
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: Kwan could be the same thing. Well, if I don't

902
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: see these things, these changes coming up on Sunday where

903
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: they've actually analyze what they're doing right and what they're

904
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: doing wrong and do something to take the Bears out

905
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: of their game, you know, then I'm not supporting in

906
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: the path mark. Here's the problem. Since A Kwon Bark

907
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: has come back from injury, his rushing numbers that have

908
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: shotgun and under center are identical. The almost the exact

909
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: same carr is the exact same yards. I don't give

910
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: another stat here about this number for you since A

911
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Kuan's come back from his injury. Since he's come back

912
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: and the team is run from under center, he's around

913
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: thirty carries for eighty yards. All every single one of

914
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: those eighty yards have come after contact. He has zero

915
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: yards before content. So don't tell me that they'd run

916
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: the ball better if you're under center because it's hotwashed.

917
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: They're actually blocking better in the run game when there

918
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: running at a shotgun. Well, John, you know, I don't

919
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: see the Detroit game, and he did quite wrong when

920
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: they had a larger pen us of fullback in front

921
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: of them. And you know, our tight ends really aren't

922
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: task catchers. Maybe we should be using them more as blockers.

923
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: It's two tight ends. Mark real quick, Mark real quick,

924
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Mark real quick. I'm just telling you, out of eleven

925
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: personnel this year, se Kwon Barkley is averaging five yards

926
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: per carry. Out of twelve personnel, he's averaging under three. Okay, Well,

927
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: getka get Mark, Herry. I appreciate it. Mark, thank you

928
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: for the call and good stuff. You're a good call

929
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: of good information. And look, I agree this end of

930
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: last year they got better by doing war on their center,

931
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: more fullback, more two tight ends. But when they've done

932
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: it this year, it hasn't worked. That's the data. I'm

933
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: not making the numbers up, folks. That's what the data

934
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: tells me. So I mean, I can't go in and

935
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: say you gotta go and do this when they've done

936
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: it in the first half and it hasn't worked well.

937
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: Basically to me, that just tells you how how the

938
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: offensive line is not played well correct, mean the tight

939
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: ends of the tight ends and running back. You know

940
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of what ability he has, but if he doesn't

941
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: have the blocking, especially the number that you said, eighty

942
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: yards with zero yards coming with no contact, that's that's insane,

943
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: It's preposterous. I gotta believe that maybe somebody say Kwan

944
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: Barkley can't get it, then nobody can say Kue an

945
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: interesting quote yesterday talk about how he wants to be

946
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: more free and all you'll kind of run like his

947
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: old style and run for fun. That'll help, But he

948
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: needs some guys in front of him to give him

949
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: some room too. And again I have I've been careful

950
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: not to do the offensive one excuse this year, but

951
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: I think the last few weeks the offensive line has

952
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: struggled with some pressure, some movement and blocking in the

953
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: run game. Maybe it's because Rembers and Soldier will will

954
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: banged up in things like that. That's fine, but gotta

955
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: be better, right, We got about three minutes one more

956
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: call Jose and Orlando. Jose, what's up, Jose? What's up? Um, Well,

957
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably call another day because I know Lansy Gotta.

958
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, sorry I called you, go, I'm gonna hang

959
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: up on you right now. I'm just kidding ahead. No,

960
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is that just

961
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: referring to my biggest thing, guys that I want to say,

962
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: and I know I don't have a lot of time,

963
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: is can we please go back to for three defense?

964
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean, And the reason why I'm saying that it's

965
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: just I'm looking at the personnel that we have we have,

966
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, looking at all the linement that we have.

967
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: BJ's on the contract, Thomason's on the contract, we have

968
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: our rookie, and then we we're gonna sign Williams. I

969
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: know We're not gonna do a trade like that not

970
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: to sign the guy. So I mean, we have the

971
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: perfect perfect linement for a four three. You don't, Jose.

972
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: You don't though, because in the three four, three of

973
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: those big guys can be on the field at the

974
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: same time. In the four three, only two of those

975
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: guys can be on the field at the same time.

976
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: So how does it help you by playing a four three.

977
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: But this is another thing. Okay, that's a good argument

978
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: to have, John, But I'll tell you this. So, I

979
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: mean Williams doesn't really play defensive and and and he

980
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: said it himself, he's better in the three technique and

981
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: and and another thing. We don't have lt Call Banks,

982
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: and we don't have Harry Carson and Gary Reasons or

983
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: out there. That's fair. If your argument wants to me

984
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: about the linebackers, I get that. I'm not gonna argue

985
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: that point of it. But just f y I and

986
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: Ji Betcher's three man front, and then when they go

987
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: to sub packages, there is a player lined up at

988
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: three technique every single play. Just FYI, right, I'm just

989
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm really not buying our three four defense honestly. And

990
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: then and you said it, right, I don't. I mean,

991
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: I love this kid that came out of Wisconsin. I

992
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: just don't know how he's gonna come back from that

993
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: a c R. I honestly believe he's gonna need another

994
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: year to really come back to his usual show. So yeah,

995
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you guys and getting the linebacker.

996
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: But another thing, and then I'll leave you guys with this,

997
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: because I know you gotta go. And one thing I

998
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: want to say is, you know the what you alluded to,

999
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: the eleven and the twelve personnel, we're playing on offense

1000
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: and stuff. If you look at the play calling when

1001
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: we run and dive, you know, up the A and

1002
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: the B in the three or the one in the

1003
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: three holes, we're really not getting in a lot of

1004
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: push that way. So yeah, let's try to kick it

1005
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: out a little bit. No, I think that's fair to

1006
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: I haven't even I haven't even seen us do any

1007
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: CG pulls or anything like that. And I don't know

1008
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: if the guards can't come out. We have two decent guards.

1009
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why we're not trying to pitch

1010
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: the ball out of widening out a little bit, especially

1011
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: against the Bears this week. Those guys fly all over

1012
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: the place. Now, thank you, Jose, appreciate the call. And look,

1013
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: if you want to run a few outside you too, buddy,

1014
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: thanks for the call. If you want to run a

1015
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: couple more outside runs, I'd be okay with that. Yeah,

1016
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: even in that, you can do it with the twenty

1017
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: one personnel and there just it doesn't matter. I mean

1018
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: I think that the reason they don't get outside all

1019
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: that much is because they have had so much penetration

1020
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: in that offensive line. They're just not they're not good

1021
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: run blockers. They're not they well, they haven't performed that

1022
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: way yet this year. So if you're gonna try to

1023
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: run outside, I mean, yeah, you can try to maybe

1024
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: gain some momentum, but these guys are getting penetrated inside.

1025
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna tackle them behind the line of scrimmage.

1026
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: Jeffy got sixty seconds. Give me your keys of the game. Well,

1027
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: offensively for the Giants, it's gonna be time and possession.

1028
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to extend drives because of what I

1029
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: told you earlier. The defense for the Chicago Bears is

1030
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: really good and they don't give up big place um. Defensively,

1031
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: for the Giants, I think that they need to get

1032
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: get that team off there. He goes hand in hand,

1033
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: get the Giants defense. Gotta get that Bears team off

1034
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: the off the field. They're horrible on third down. They

1035
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of three and outs. Then you get

1036
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: the ball back to the offense um and number one

1037
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: thing this week, go on the road and do not

1038
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: turn the ball over life you do normally, and that's key.

1039
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: Giants offense make good decisions against a good secondary. That

1040
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: goes to not turning it over. I think you have

1041
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: to pass well on first and second down. I think

1042
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: the short passing game will be the giants best friend

1043
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: this week. It's a promptly all the tight end to

1044
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: throw the ball too. But maybe Barclay, you know Shepherd

1045
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: if he plays slot and slot and slot things like that,

1046
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: And don't let clear Mac wreck the game because he can,

1047
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: even though he's not having as good of a year

1048
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: as he has in the past. On the other side

1049
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: of the ball, you've gotta be disciplined in the defensive backfield.

1050
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, they'll try to do a lot of

1051
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: misdirection to confuse it open up big plays. You have

1052
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: to be disciplined. If you're the Giant secondary. If you

1053
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: get the Trabitsky, he's not going to succeed in this game.

1054
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: He's just not. If you can get some pressure on

1055
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: that'd be great. And don't let the Bears move the

1056
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: ball on first and second down with David Montgomery in

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Speaker 1: the run game. If you do those things, I think

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Speaker 1: you'll be okay. Jeff Good stuff. Yeah, good stuff too.

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Speaker 1: Good luck Friday or excuse me Sunday for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to have a good Friday, everybody, And it

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Speaker 1: for more details and again remind their Big book kick

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Speaker 1: off live and now has its own separate podcast feed.

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Speaker 1: If you listen to the show on podcast, it will

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Speaker 1: December one, but it has its own podcast feed now.

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Speaker 1: It's already live, so go subscribe on your favorite podcast platform,

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Speaker 1: and of course the show will always be available on

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Speaker 1: giants dot com and the Giants Mobile. Left for Jeff Eagles,

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmollo. Thanks for being with us. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Everybody. You have a great weekend,

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Speaker 1: then have fun on Sunday.