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Now 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: here's Matt Jones. 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: Welcome everyone. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Wednesday, November the nineteenth. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: I am Matt Jones here at the Ks Bar and Grill. 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: It is Wingsday, Dollar Wings starting at eleven o'clock. When 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: we opened the door last night, this place was packed 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: with Kentucky fans excited, but it didn't turn out well 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: for them or for all the folks uh listening at home. 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: You give shock Clark's Puppets Foo Shop phone Line twenty 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: two eighty seven. We are going to take a bunch 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: of calls today. I want to see the pulse of 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: the fan base. I don't think it's good, but I 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: would like to see it a vision autoglass text machine 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: seven seven two seven seven four five two five four. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: In this disition sponsored by the T J. Smith Office. 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: You call TJ. I'll make them pay. We want to recognize. First, 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: we've got a couple folks in here. First of all, 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: this guy's from Jupiter, Florida. Yeah, came to visit his 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: cousin and this is his first trip to the bar. 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: Tough day, but that's okay because you're still gonna enjoy it. 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: And then three generations of this family. You want to 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: talk about a family looking like each other. This is grandmother, mother, 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: daughter and they all. If you can't tell those three 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: are related, then you're not. Then you're not trying. 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: We all knew it as soon as they walked in 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: the door. Yeah, I know that is. 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: Boy over here is listen to our show on six 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: different continents. 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: Six different Which one Antarctica is the only one? That 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: one you've done? 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 6: Well? 41 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Which one haven't you done? Australia? All right, well you 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: we can't have had a mini Antarctica listeners. So, uh, 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: when I get the little map, I never see that 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: on there, so I appreciate it. Well, look, last night 45 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: was a disaster on all fronts. In some ways, I'm 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: not sure it could have gone much worse unless something 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: had happened to the building. I mean, it was, it was. 48 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: It was awful. The team played terrible, the players looked 49 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: disengaged and awful, and and then after the game, somehow 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: I almost felt like was worse than the game, with 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: the with the with the way the Pope postgame comments went, 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: you know, we can There's a lot of different directions 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: we can go. I think that the least interesting one 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: is the basketball because it was so bad. I mean, 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: it was an absolute pitiful display of basketball on all sides. 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 2: Defense was terrible. I mean, you know, Jay Billis said 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: Michigan State was essentially running their offense as if it 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: was a shoot around, and I think that's probably correct. 59 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: Shot the ball poorly, and an effort, especially in the 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: second half, seemed non existent. Ryan, I mean, I expected 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: that we could lose yesterday. I mean I thought we 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: would win, but I thought, you know, it was impossible 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: we could lose. The idea that we would get run 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: off the floor by that team was just not something 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: I foresaw me neither. 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,279 Speaker 5: You're right, that was a beatdown. That was an embarrassing 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: beat down by a team. You know, after the Louisville 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 5: loss was a bad loss, But I didn't feel any 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: different about our team either. The boy after this loss, 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 5: I feel a lot different about our team because there's 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 5: something off. There's some issues or some things on. I 72 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 5: know we'll get into it, but there's just something not 73 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: right about this team. And I never thought we were 74 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 5: gonna be this poor defensive team. I really thought they 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: were gonna be a really good defensive team start to season. 76 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna be like, potentially an elite deficsion. 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: I did too. 78 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think said that. And while I was very 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: bummed that we lost low, I was like, well, the 80 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: one positive is we'll be even better on defense, and 81 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: we were much worse. That was a disaster. 82 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: It was a disaster. 83 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 7: I was getting shots for saying Michigan State can't shoot. 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: Well. 85 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 7: They can shoot if you just let them have target practice. 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 7: Anyone at that level of basketball can hit wide open threes. 87 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 7: I couldn't believe the looks they were getting. 88 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and they knocked them. I mean had four 89 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: in the first three minutes. Uh, you know, I I honestly, 90 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot to dwell on on 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: the basketball except the defense is terrible. The offense looks 92 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: very stagnant, and I don't know that's the one thing. 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how it gets fixed, because I think 94 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: in less low plays, I still think you've got a 95 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: real problem with guys beating beating people off the dribble. 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: And unlike last year, which couldn't really beat teams off 97 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: the dribble, but you could shoot, we can't shoot. So 98 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: that combination is not a is not a good combination. 99 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: Brandon Garrison had one of the sort of epically bad 100 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: performances I've seen in a while, including some there's some 101 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: clips out there of him, Yeah, you know, just completely 102 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: loggi gag. And we still don't know what's happened with 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Otega away. Uh, And it's it's just not good now. 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: The more I think interesting conversation, the one people were 105 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: talking about is kind of the whole overall demeanor of 106 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: the team. This looks like for me three things number 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: one and most importantly, it looks like Mark and I 108 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: can't believe I'm saying this, but it looks like he's 109 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: completely lost as to what to do. He just completely 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: looks he has been out game planned and like on 111 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: an unbelievable level these last two games. Yeah, I coach 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: and just completely like the other team's getting layups and 113 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: we're struggling to even get a shot off. I also 114 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: like his whole demeanor. I mean, I you know, we 115 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: heard when he came here from BYU. This is a 116 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: guy that takes losing seriously and it hurts him. And 117 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: I prefer that over well, at least I go get 118 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: got to go, get to see my dogs. But sometimes 119 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: you can take things, you know, a little sit. And 120 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: I have to tell you, if you only saw the 121 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: postgame interviews he had with the media and then specifically 122 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 2: with Jeff Goodman, you'd have been like, I'm worried about 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: that guy. I mean you would have you would have 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: said that I don't want to say it takes it 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 2: too hard, but it's like, man, okay, that that doesn't 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: look good. Then the team chemistry, it looks like a 127 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: group of people don't like each other. I mean, I 128 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: don't understand how that is, because it doesn't seem like 129 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: any of them are bad guys, but they do not 130 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: seem to like each other. And that's really surprising to 131 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: me because I was around him during the beginning of 132 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: the year and they seem to like each other. So 133 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: you go, well, what happened with that? And then just 134 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: the whole vibe of you know, now the twenty two 135 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: million dollars and all these guys with the money and 136 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: burb by the way, I don't buy any of that 137 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: when it's saying the money. These other teams are making 138 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: money and they're playing well, So it's not the money. 139 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: It maybe it's our specific reaction to it, but other 140 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: teams are doing fine. So the all three of those 141 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: issues Ryan are very worrisome. 142 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: And about the players, you know, the uh, the mass 143 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 5: substitution seem to work last year because they seemed. 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: To be supportive. 145 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: They hated them last year, but they seemed to be 146 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 5: It seemed to work at times. They have to support 147 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: with each other. 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: I felt like we were having this conversation last year 149 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: all the time about mass substitution. 150 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 5: The mass substitution this year definitely just kills every vibe, 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 5: every momentum, everything we got going on. 152 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: When the money does it. 153 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: But about Pope, you know, uh, in a time of crisis, 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: we look to our leaders, and so we're looking to 155 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: our leader, and he's making it worse. You know, after 156 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 5: the Louisville game, he made it worse, and after the 157 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: last night he made it worse. 158 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: We need we need he's our leader. 159 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: You know. 160 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: What's all we look for him for guidance, for to help. 161 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a middle ground between like bag Dad, Bob, 162 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: everything is fine, we are winning, it's great, and you know, 163 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: droopy dog, there's a there's a there's a there's a 164 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: fine line there. You have to project confidence while also 165 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: acknowledging pain. And I'm trying to think. You know, they 166 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: used to say Bill Clinton was good at that. When 167 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: I think of coaches that are good at that, I 168 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not sure. Who do you think is 169 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: really good at that? Kind of when they lose, you 170 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: still feel like this is gonna. I don't know. There's 171 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: no way comes to mind immediately, but I know whatever 172 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: it is is not what I saw last night. 173 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 7: Now I'm glad he feels it when they lose. That's 174 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 7: what you want. But you can't just I don't wanna 175 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 7: say he's a baby and going and hiding. But Tom 176 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 7: Bleach waited for like an hour. They had to get 177 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 7: Darren Headrick to call in from a car. It sounded 178 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 7: like to fill Tom. 179 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: If you were listening to radio broadcast, they did like 180 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: a seventeen minute interview trying to fill time because he 181 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: was so late. I mean, you have a child this 182 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: better than anybody, Drew. There's never been a coach that 183 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: took longer to come out than Pope did last night. 184 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 7: And I would say the two closest people to Pope 185 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 7: and his staff in the national media right now are 186 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 7: a good minute of Norlander, and they're the ones tweeting 187 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 7: like where is the Norlander? But like forty five minutes 188 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 7: still waiting on Pope. I get your hurt, and I 189 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 7: like that you're hurt, but I just think that's a 190 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 7: bad look, not just making the people wait, but kind 191 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 7: of to Ryan's point, you need to come out and 192 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 7: show it, put a put on a good front and 193 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 7: kind of give some confidence even though it was so bad, 194 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 7: or some kind of an explanation not what he did. 195 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 7: I texted Billy during the radio interview with Tom Leach. 196 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 7: It was like two minutes in. I was like, Billy, 197 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 7: he's doing Tom wrong here, He's given one word answers 198 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 7: in Tom's tripping over questions, and it's almost like he 199 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 7: was I don't want to say smart elect but that 200 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 7: was the quote you brought up on post A Mark that. 201 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: Was bad as he said, what did you say to 202 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: the team in the locker room? And he said, we 203 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 2: said some things and then just paused. I mean, that's 204 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm not saying Mark is this because I don't think 205 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: he is. I think Mark's a really good guy. But 206 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: that's the kind of thing a jerk would say. Like, 207 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: that's what a jerk would say if you said to 208 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: what did you say to him? We said some things 209 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: and just and then just stop, like that would be 210 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: what a jerk would say. Now, Mark's not a jerk, 211 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: and he didn't even say it in that tone. But 212 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: if you just read that quote, that's the that's that's 213 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: a horrible quote. If Cola Perry said that quote, I 214 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: would have said, cal, you're being a jerk. If Billy 215 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: Gillispie said that quote, we would have been like, that's 216 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: why you gotta be fired. You're an ass. Now Mark 217 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: didn't say it in that tone, but the words are 218 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: the words. You know, what did you say to the team. 219 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 7: We said some things and then in press conferences and 220 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 7: radio interviews aren't the end of the world. But it 221 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 7: showed me he has no answer or no grip of this. 222 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: If I want to say, like you know, it was 223 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: very emotional. I want to keep that in the locker room. Okay, 224 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: I'll accept that. But we said some things. I just 225 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: I when people it's weird, because Tom Leech is such 226 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: a nice man that sometimes I think, like when people 227 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: are weird to him, then that's really not good. Like 228 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: it's one thing if you're weird to me, but when 229 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: you're weird to Tom, Tom Lee, Tom Leech like he's 230 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: the nicest guy in the world. 231 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 5: Tom was doing the best he could to try to 232 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: get something out of Pope last night, and Park Pope 233 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 5: is not a jerk, but to use that word, as 234 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 5: we've said, he was being a jerk last night. 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: Answered I don't know to one of the questions because 236 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: he asked, like, when you were a player at Kentucky, 237 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: did you have any sort of or adversity here? 238 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. 239 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, did you have an university as a 240 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: player at Kentucky or in the pros? And he said 241 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: I don't know. I was listening. 242 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 7: I'm like putting Darren back on at the drive through 243 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: to talk about the women's teams, say it's just. 244 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: A little behind the scenes. I mean, the JMI post 245 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: game thing with the coach is supposed to be three segments, right, okay, 246 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: and and it varies in length. I hear all of 247 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: them because I'm sitting there waiting to go on the air, 248 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: and sometimes I'm like, will you hurry up because I 249 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: got blabbing to do, And then sometimes I'm like, I 250 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 2: want to hear what you have to say. His he 251 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: did three segments. They could only do two, yeah, because 252 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: he didn't even give them enough to do three. And 253 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: it was three minutes and eleven seconds. Two minutes of 254 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: it was Tom trying to ask questions. I mean it was. 255 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: And then you're right about Norlander and Goodman. I think 256 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: that's important because you know, there are certain medium members 257 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: that become, in my opinion, almost the voice of the 258 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: coach okay, because they know him so early in the 259 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Cow era. I think that was me, And then it 260 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: became like Decorsi and Greenberg, like when they talked, you 261 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: knew that's what Cow meant. Well for Pope. I think 262 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: it's Norlander and Goodman and when they both say, this 263 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: is the most down I've ever seen Mark Pope, that's 264 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: not a good sign, right. 265 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 5: No, you know, standing in the locker room for fifty 266 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 5: minutes there obviously are having some sort of heart to heart, 267 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 5: and he came out of it like more down than 268 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 5: we went into the locker room. I feel like his 269 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 5: interview with Goodman Man, just to see him and then 270 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: we'll hear him. What he said to Goodman is like. 271 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: That wasn't good. It was not that at allson inspiring 272 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: at all. 273 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 7: And adding to that last year and Pope says this 274 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 7: about everything. He's such an intelligent guy. He likes the puzzles, 275 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 7: he likes figuring things out. He likes the challenge. I 276 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 7: like having to think outside the box. I gotta figure 277 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 7: this out now. It's just like, uh, I don't know 278 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 7: what's going on. Yeah, I don't have an answer. 279 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: It's just in saying what was his final thing, like, 280 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a great. 281 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 4: Year, We're gonna get it right, We're gonna turn it around. 282 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: He mad. It was like a very definitive I'll look 283 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: it up. It will we won't fail that's right, We're 284 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: not going to fail. 285 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: That's a very strong statement. Well that's what we need 286 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: to hear from you. Yes, yes, I just need to 287 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: hear more of that. Yes, we're mad. He's obviously mad. 288 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: He's upset. But still you are the face and the 289 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 5: leader of our program. We need to stanp up and 290 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: be a good leader for us. 291 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure you could have gone worse lessness. 292 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: It was awful. I mean it was awful, And if 293 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: you talk to the people at the game, they are 294 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: even more down about it than the people that weren't 295 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: because they were seeing the body language of the players 296 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: that we didn't see on camera. Like I I probably 297 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: had five or six people at the game say to me, man, 298 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: we look bad. And I'll even go I talked to 299 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: someone I know in New York who is not even 300 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: about basketball for you, and they just happened to be 301 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 2: at that game their work win. And she sent me 302 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: a message and said, Kentucky's playing you all look sad. 303 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I heard her recognize that 304 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: we are sad. Yeah, but she meant the players though, 305 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: you all look sad. 306 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 7: I was so jealous of everyone in New York. I 307 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 7: love New York this time of year. It ruined Christmas 308 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 7: for me. I hope they don't put the Rockefeller Tree up. 309 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 7: Don't even do the Macy's Thanksgiving parade, because it'll just 310 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 7: remind me as those floats come down of Michigan State 311 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 7: shooters coming down and getting wide open shots. That should 312 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 7: have been a special trip. But now we've gone to 313 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 7: the garden twice in Pope's first two years and gotten absolutely. 314 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: Drilled, absolutely seal act. Well it was that was bad, 315 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: and I now the question is where do you go 316 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: from here? I was on the phone a lot this morning. 317 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. And now, of course, as 318 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: you could be expected, the big talkie is what happened 319 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: in that locker room against Louis. I mean that, and 320 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: and Mark said that that's his fault. He did that. 321 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: And so now that continues to be the question. We'll 322 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: talk about it and we will take your call. Say 323 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: if I'm nine two eight oh twenty two A seven, 324 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: we're here at KS Bar and grill. This is Kentucky 325 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome back Kentucky Sports Radio. All right, I 326 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: just need to say a couple of things. This is 327 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: from people on the text machine and online. Everybody's gotta 328 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: stop with the we need a new coach fire Pope 329 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: or saying we're suggesting that I'm having reasonable discussions. All right, 330 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: he can have a terrible year. He not going anywhere 331 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: and he shouldn't, right, Like, that's just the reality. But 332 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: we gotta talk about this as adults. And when you 333 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: lose a game, you don't just. 334 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 8: Go five pound Mark vat Donalds try five pout like 335 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 8: I'm just no, I'm just saying, but you call a 336 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 8: spade a spade, right, I mean that means when I 337 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 8: if I go eat at Arby's and the food's not good, 338 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 8: I'm not saying shut down all Arby's. 339 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm saying, hey, Arby's make a better roast beef sandwich. Right, 340 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: That's kind of what this is, Mark, Let's make a 341 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: better roast beef sandwich. 342 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 7: When they should bring the five for five back. 343 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: I don't need arby a long time to be fair, 344 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: but go ahead. 345 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: When Mark Pope met with you before he coaches first game, 346 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 5: he said, when you when I need to be ripped, 347 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: I want you to rip me. 348 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: Well, he said that, and he's getting his request, yes, 349 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: because congratulations. I mean, but I gave him credit for that. Listen, 350 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: I give him credit for acknowledging how bad we are. 351 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: I just don't want him to be so sad because 352 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: I need somebody to you know, if on, let me 353 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: use up another political on nine eleven. Okay, that was 354 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: a sad day. I know that was much sadder than this. 355 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: But one of the things I always thought George Bush 356 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: did well is he projected the hurt people fell, but 357 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: then he stood on that rubble and said they'll pay 358 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: for them. 359 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, right right, and. 360 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: There was that was probably his finest hour, right that's 361 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: you know, Nick Saban does a good job about that. 362 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: Nick Saban, somebody pointed out as a good one, like 363 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: you lose. You can tell he's angry, but he's also like, 364 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: all right now we're we're coming where. It's like Dabbo 365 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: is always like, we're fine, the Lord's going Mike Show, 366 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: we beat Clint Bait next week. And you're like, come on, 367 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: cheese ball, you gotta find what that message is. 368 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't. 369 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 5: I don't want what we saw last night from Pope, 370 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: and I don't want Kyle Perry talking about going. 371 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 4: To see his dog. 372 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 5: There's got to be a middle gay and Tubby when 373 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 5: he'd come and do after a big loss. He could 374 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: tell he was hurting, he was down, but he would 375 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 5: least he would talk to you and answer your questions 376 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 5: and talk be respectful to Tom Leach in the postgame show. 377 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: A couple of things I need to happen immediately. Number one, 378 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: I need Brandon Garrison not to start for a little while, okay, 379 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: because that's he's maybe the most frustrated. 380 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 4: He's getting worse. 381 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 7: It seems like that was my big point on pregame. 382 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 7: I said, this is his last chance. 383 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: So he goes to horn to move somebody else and stry. 384 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: And I need Moda Batte to never shoot ever ever, 385 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: Like he has the worst shot I've ever seen. He 386 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: seems to shoot from his lead but and and it 387 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: and you talk about not thinking a shot. Remember I 388 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 2: used to say last year that if if Amari or 389 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: Garrison shot at three, I was like, well that's not 390 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: going with Diabati. If it's in the air, I'll bet 391 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: every dollar I have it's not going. I mean he 392 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: I like him as a player, and he does a 393 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: lot of good things, but I need him not shooting threes. 394 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: And if he and then you know I don't know 395 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: if in Pope's system, can you have a four that 396 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: doesn't shoot threes? 397 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 7: That's my big question. I loved you, Bote. I don't know, 398 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 7: but Pope wants a five out thirty three is a 399 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 7: game team, and I'm looking at his roster going, sir, 400 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 7: I think you forgot the shooters to go in that. 401 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have our stup has three guys 402 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: that can't shoot right now? How about Aberdeen? 403 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 7: When that man misses, he's gonna miss He had another 404 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 7: air ball three last night and it was open. I mean, 405 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 7: he had a good game against the Louisville in the 406 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 7: second half. We need him, but he makes his missus 407 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 7: count when he misses a three. 408 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: You know, as Cedric the entertainer would say, when we break, 409 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: we break. When he misses, he. 410 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 7: He's gotta be a chasing a record for air ball threes. 411 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, if I'm nine twenty two eighty seven, 412 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: who's up first, Let's go to Mike. Mike, go ahead, Mike, 413 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: Good morning. Everyone. 414 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 4: Did you say Park mo I'm it wouldn't surprise me 415 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 4: if I did. I don't remember saying. 416 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 5: We're saying you said Park Moll. I didn't hear that, maw. 417 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 5: We know who we're talking about for today, he's Park Mote. 418 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Park maybe today he is. Yeah, all right, go ahead, Mike. 419 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 9: So just let's you know. I'm here in Knoxville, Tennessee. 420 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 9: I'm a huge UK fan originally from Kentucky. Uh, this 421 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 9: past year been I've been married for five years and 422 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 9: this is the first year that my wife has allowed 423 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 9: me to put up my UK tree. So I put 424 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 9: it up this week before that, you know, before this game, 425 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 9: and I was like, Okay, after the little the loss, 426 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 9: I'm gonna put this up. So I put it up 427 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 9: and I'm all celebrating, and then last night happens. 428 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: Man, So this may be your fault, the your UK 429 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: Christmas tree in Knoxville. You think maybe he took it down. 430 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 9: Well, you know, I'm I'm hurting, but uh, this is 431 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 9: what this is what I want to say. This is 432 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 9: what Brandon Garrison trash. 433 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. We don't we don't we don't call players names. 434 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm okay saying the way he plays is, 435 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: but like we can't do that. 436 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 9: Okay, Brandon Garrison is. The way he played was track. 437 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you that Marino. 438 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 9: Needs to be starting. He's a freshman. I get it, 439 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 9: but he's got there's so much ceiling. You know, he 440 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 9: likes he can do so much more. But this is 441 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 9: my thing, the chemistry of this team. There's there is 442 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 9: some huge issues, man. And you can just tell the 443 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 9: pre game, before the game started, the the I was watching, 444 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 9: like you know, they were panning over to the UK 445 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 9: bench and they were looking at Mississippi or Michigan State. 446 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 9: And I've seen the Michigan State players all up and 447 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 9: in uniform ready to go. I look over here at 448 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 9: Kentucky's bench and there this is before they introduced players. 449 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 9: They're all just like kind of laid back, setting back 450 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 9: on them ball. 451 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that for a minute. But I appreciate 452 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: the call. Let's talk about that. Chemistry clearly an issue. 453 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: Why do you think that's the case. Something's going on. 454 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: I don't know it. 455 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 7: And I was hesitant to just start believing stuff after 456 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: Louisville because I thought that's a true road game. There 457 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 7: probably was something, but it probably wasn't anything big. Now 458 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 7: for seeing that, something's gotta be going on. I don't 459 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 7: have the answer, but something is going on. 460 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: Something's going on. I mean, I don't know what it is. 461 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: You know, I knew Oscar and Severe didn't like each 462 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: other and the team was split, with most people on 463 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: severe side, but Oscar was the good player, so like 464 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 2: I could pinpoint with that. I don't know what this is. 465 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't know who's on whose side. I don't know 466 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: who doesn't like each other. They're rumors flying around. I 467 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: don't think they're true, but I don't know, Like I 468 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: don't know if there was a fight in the locker room. 469 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: Jack seemed to suggest maybe there was, but I don't know. 470 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: If he's just throwing that out there. I don't know. 471 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I know this, whatever it is, 472 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't handled correctly cause because clearly the team I 473 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: watched run onto the Floor versus Purdue is not the 474 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: team I'm watching now, and they don't seem to like 475 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: each other. 476 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 5: Something's off, and when Jack Gibbons brings it up, you can, well, 477 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: let's talk. 478 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: I want to talk about what Jack and Travis said, 479 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: because Jack Gibbons and Travis Ford both said something and 480 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: I give them a lot of credibility, and we'll talk 481 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: about why that is. Right after this to be right back. TJ. Smith, 482 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: personal injury attorney, called TJ. He'll make them pay. 483 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: Now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. 484 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: Here's Matt Jones. 485 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Tukey Sports Radio. EPUN nine two eight oh 486 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: twenty two eighty seven, Text Machine seven seven two seven, 487 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: Sivy four five two five four. Okay, so you did 488 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: say Park Mope. 489 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 4: I think last night it's a perfect name for him, 490 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: Park Mope. 491 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean, actually, if you're gonna ever say Park Mope 492 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: last night because he did kind of mope. 493 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 5: He did kind of mope. When Dukes got beat, we 494 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 5: called him Mark Poops a couple of times. So now 495 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: it's I think we all have done it before. 496 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: I've never done it. Yeah, Like, don't don't say, Shannon, 497 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: did I ever call him Mark Poops? I did not. 498 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 6: That is. 499 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: I can guarantee you that I've never said it. I 500 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: do not believe Drew's ever said it. You have, you 501 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 2: know I've said Mark poops, Shon says, and I don't 502 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: think you we all said I have not said it. 503 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: You did one time. 504 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: That is a complete line, mister Mope. All right, so 505 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: let's talk about what Jack Giffons and Travis Ford's okay. 506 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: So Jack Gibbons said he he said on the postgame 507 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: press conference, or excuse me, in the post game when 508 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: they were filling time to try to get till Mark 509 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: got there. That last year, that team, Remember, Jack is 510 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: around practice like every day. So this is not a 511 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: guy who's just This isn't just us giving a pat. 512 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: He is in practice every day. He said last year, 513 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: all of those guys had an intense need to prove 514 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: that they should be at Kentucky. That all those guys 515 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: they had played at Drexel and all these schools, and 516 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: they wanted to prove that they were needed to be 517 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: at Kentucky. And that's why they gave such energy. And 518 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: he said this group just doesn't have That was essentially 519 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: what he said. I tried to just call Jack and 520 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: ask him, come on, he's in a meeting and said 521 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: he couldn't do it today, but he did another time. 522 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: Travis Ford apparently said in an interview last week that 523 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: this team just had no chemistry and didn't get along. Now, 524 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: he too, has been in practice. That's not an opinion. 525 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: He has called three of our games, and as such 526 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: he gets to go to practice in the days leading 527 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 2: up to it. So that's two guys who are seeing practice, right, 528 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: this is not just random people. How much of aalidity 529 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: do you give to those two things. 530 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 5: I give a lot of validity to it because he 531 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 5: said nobody's closure to that team outside of the players 532 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: and the coaches than Jack Gibbons. He travels with them, 533 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 5: He's there at every practice. When he says something, I listen. 534 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 7: I heard Travis on the chemistry thing. I think he 535 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 7: meant more basketball chemistry, but it's still a problem. 536 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: But he didn't. He wasn't talking. 537 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 7: I mean, I can't speak for him, but what he 538 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 7: might have said it in a different interview, But I 539 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 7: did hear him do an interview, but he was saying, 540 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 7: like basketball chemistry, they still have to figure out, which 541 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 7: is a problem in itself. 542 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's clear. 543 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 7: I am starting to Hey, something's going on that I 544 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 7: don't know. But I think even if they liked each other, 545 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 7: I think they have a big problem just with how 546 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 7: the roster's built. 547 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: I think I think in the NIL era, your general 548 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: manager constructioning of this becomes very very important, maybe as 549 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 2: important as coaching. And I agree with you, I don't 550 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: think there they I had a nagging suspicion about the 551 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: shooting going into this year, and it's not. I don't know. 552 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna get better. I mean, 553 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: I don't know, what are you gonna do to make 554 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: this team shoot, especially if Low doesn't come back. I mean, 555 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: if Low doesn't come back, they're gonna have a real 556 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: shooting problem. 557 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 7: A light needs to go off for Cam Williams and 558 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 7: he needs to be the four now right now, that 559 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 7: light hadn't really gone off. He's gotten a little better, 560 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 7: but they have to have more shooters. I think always 561 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 7: the biggest problem. Everybody's trying to figure out if it's money, 562 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 7: NBA whatever. I just think he don't have any lanes. 563 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 7: If you go watch his highlights last year, he'd get 564 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 7: the ball going downhill, no thinking, straight to the rim 565 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 7: and finish. It's just clogged in the offense. The ball 566 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 7: is sticking on offense. They need shooters to for how 567 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 7: Pope runs that. 568 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: I was also a play early in the game where 569 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: he beat his man and he had his lane and 570 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: he let the guy block him from behind. I don't 571 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: remember him ever doing that last year. I mean, usually 572 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: if he got a step on you he was scoring 573 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 2: and probably getting an A in one, and he let 574 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: let him block him. 575 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 5: Last, do you take anything from that video clip of 576 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 5: o Way last night on the post game? 577 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so, if you saw the press conference, it looked 578 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: like he was rolling his eyes. There were two angles. 579 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: There's the angle right below him where it definitely looks 580 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: like he's rolling his eyes. But then somebody else posted 581 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: an angle from the other side and it didn't really 582 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: look like that there. And so as Mario's video videoing, 583 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: sometimes show life is about angles, you know. Sometimes Mario 584 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: can put a video out of me where I'm like, man, 585 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: I gotta do something, and then last night he put 586 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: one out so good somebody thought I was on I 587 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: had botox and so, which I haven't. I mean, maybe 588 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: I should, But so I think a life is about angles. 589 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: So maybe the angles, you know, maybe he didn't roll 590 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: his eyes. I don't know, but it looked like he 591 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: rolled his eyes from the one video. 592 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, the way thing didn't bother as much. They just 593 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 7: got whooped. I was rolling my eyes too. Let's all 594 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 7: roll her eyes after that game. One thing that I 595 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 7: did have concerns. A couple of people texted me before 596 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 7: the gameam tipped off, and you said it on the 597 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 7: postgame show, Pope walking into that arena looked like a 598 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 7: man walking into a job he hates. 599 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about that. 600 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 7: That concerned me more than the way postgame clip. 601 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: It looked like a guy that so I didn't see 602 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: that before it happened. I didn't see it till after 603 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: the game. But there's a video of him walking in 604 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: BEFO for the game and he looks like a man 605 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: who life has beaten up and he's going into his 606 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: accounting job, going what have I done with my youth? 607 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: He did? That's what he looked like. I know that's 608 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: not how he feels, but he looked awful, didn't he? Okay, 609 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: I have a theory, all right, I want to hear it. 610 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 5: My theory is that they know Jalen Lowe is not 611 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 5: coming back, and he's already for the second in a row, 612 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 5: he's gonna have to do this deal without his star 613 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 5: point guard. They built everything around Jalen Lowe. You've called 614 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: him on the MVP of the team. I think they've 615 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 5: made the decision he's not gonna play. 616 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: All right? Is that scoop? Or is that. 617 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: Scuttle maybe a little scuttle. 618 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: But maybe maybe is a word that you just need to. 619 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: I give you the chance to do scoop or scuttle, 620 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: but you can't then go even further to maybe I'm 621 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: gonna go get it scoop or is it scuttle? 622 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 5: No, because they, of course they could change their mind 623 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 5: today or is it a gas. I think there's a 624 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 5: strong possibility that he's not come back, okay, and I 625 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 5: think maybe that well, can you say scuttle but though, well, 626 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 5: I think maybe because like I said, they they could 627 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 5: change their mind today. After last night, they mad like, okay, 628 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: I gotta come back and save this team. 629 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: You know, So you would say, all right, let me 630 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: put a different way. You would say, going into last 631 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: night's game, he wasn't coming up. 632 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: I think that was a very strong possibility. 633 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, that's not you're giving yourself an out. The 634 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: Lamar Wilkinson thing is still hard. 635 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: Yes it is. 636 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: Now he's not now he's not doing his thing. I'll 637 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: give you some backup. Uh, yesterday afternoon he was floating 638 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: around Lexton. He's not coming back and and that's that's 639 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: what everybody was saying. And if you listen to Mark 640 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: Pope's answer in the post game, he says, I don't 641 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: have anything for you on that. That doesn't mean he 642 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: doesn't have an answer. Maybe they look at this after 643 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: last night and they do otherwise. But I I am 644 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: now moving my brain into the Jalen Low is not 645 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: gonna play. And if Jallen Loan does not play, my 646 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: ceiling for this team is different. Even if they get 647 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: all their stuff together, We're not winning national championship without 648 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: Jalen Lowe Jay, if you listen to me all year, 649 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: the key to this team, what did I say all year? 650 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: You have to have Jalen Low. You have to and 651 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: if we don't, it's a different team. I'm not saying 652 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: it's a team that can be good. I'm not even 653 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: saying it's a team that can be great, But I 654 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: don't think it's a team that can reach its full 655 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: But you have to have that guy. And if you 656 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: don't have him, I think you gotta go find somebody, 657 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: Like if he's not playing, I gotta go. And I 658 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: mean now you can find people in the G League. 659 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe Briani can play like you can 660 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: you're you're I mean the rules of change. You gotta 661 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: go get somebody. In my opinion, Drew, if if you 662 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: don't have Jalen Low. 663 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've never expected him back. I said that day 664 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 7: at Skybar. Someone should infinity. Someone should already be in 665 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 7: Europe right now. I mean, I know as fans we 666 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 7: want him back. But if you're Jalen Low and you 667 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 7: write your pros and cons down, there are a lot 668 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 7: more pros for not playing, then right you should play. 669 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: Well, you got an extra ear, I mean one and 670 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: again people may not like this, but you got to 671 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: put yourself in the arm, in the in the position 672 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: of the kid. You can get yourself healthy. B you 673 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: now get another year at college basketball. If you come 674 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: back and play six more games, you've now used up 675 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: your year of eligibility. He's only played two games. He 676 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: can get another year of eligibility. Now he could play 677 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: two more years. And for a kid like that who's 678 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: probably not going to the pros, that could be a 679 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: three four million dollars decision. I mean, I couldn't blame him, 680 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: could you. 681 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 7: Well, even before last night, I said I would sit 682 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 7: out if I were Jayalen Low. And now that we 683 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 7: see the team has problems, why would I risk my 684 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 7: arm for a team that doesn't even like each other. 685 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: That's true. If you're sitting there watching the team fight, 686 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: you're like. 687 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 7: Well, I start looking out for my shoulder at that point. 688 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 7: Not selfish as a person, but he if he plays 689 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 7: until January toughing it out and then reinters it and 690 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 7: needs surgery in February, now he's hurt himself for next 691 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 7: year and set the team back. So he's got to 692 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 7: look out for himself. And with the two results they've 693 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 7: had in the meaningful games, he pushes him farther away. 694 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: We have to go get a point guard. 695 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 5: They have to because even though I think got to 696 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 5: be somebody, Denzel is a good backup, he's not the 697 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 5: guy that's gonna rea due to a big run. 698 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 4: I think a point guard. 699 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: So I think it's plausible that the Jalen Low hangover 700 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: had a little bit of effect on Pope going into 701 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 5: last night. 702 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: Now what I mean? That's not a terrible explanation. Who's next? Jackson? Jackson? 703 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jackson. 704 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 10: Hey guys, how's it going this morning? H Yeah, that's 705 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 10: the way I feel too. I ain't got a quick 706 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 10: question and a comment for you, Matt, Maybe the difference 707 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 10: between scuttle butt and rumor. But I was reading on 708 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 10: Mario's video of some of the comments there last night, 709 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 10: and someone had commented, and I don't know what if. 710 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: You're gonna do something, If you're gonna do something about 711 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: personal interactions with players, if that's what you're gonna do, 712 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to put that on the air. If 713 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: you're if you've got it, If it's something else, I'm 714 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: glad to hear it. But if it's like this person 715 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: did this, I'd rather not. I hope you understand. I 716 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: don't want to spread that. 717 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 11: No, just just thinking about the team chemistry and stuff. 718 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 11: That's just a comment that was interesting about the issues 719 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 11: behind the scenes, something personal going on between team mates 720 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 11: or whatever, might be over a woman or something like that. 721 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: I want to get into that. I know I wouldn't 722 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: think so. I wouldn't think so. I appreciate it. 723 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 11: I understand, generally. 724 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: Speak, I appreciate the call. Generally speaking, this is a 725 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: long standing thing. When teams have chemistry issues, people always 726 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: blame a woman. That's always been the case. I'm not 727 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: saying that's never been the case. There's one time I 728 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 2: think it was the case. You're right, but in general 729 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: there's like, well, they must be fighting over a woman, 730 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: and I don't I don't think that's I think that's 731 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: most of the time not true. Generally speaking. There are 732 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: plenty of fish in the sea for UK basketball players, 733 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: so I think it'll be. It'll be. 734 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 5: But then we agree there's something off, something's not right, 735 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 5: and I don't know if we can figure it out 736 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 5: by the next big game we've got, but they need 737 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 5: to be figured out quickly out. 738 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: I think we're going to and Mark, if you do 739 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: nothing else, just tell us what happened in that stupid 740 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: locker room. 741 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: Wipe the slate clean. 742 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: Let's not make this the Epstein files, all right, let's 743 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: just just say it. Okay, just just do. 744 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 7: It, and let's move on, right, Just lay the locker 745 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 7: room files out. 746 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: Whoever is evolved, all right. 747 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 7: We predicted this when he was being all coy about that, 748 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 7: like it's gonna linger in the next week and if 749 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 7: you have a bad game, it's just gonna be magnified. 750 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 2: Hey, bourbon lovers, you don't want to miss Commonwealth Causes 751 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 2: December Bourbon Raffle December eighteenth, an incredible twenty thousand dollars lineup, 752 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: including the iconic Pappy van Winkle Vertical, but that's not all. 753 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: Also a Buffalo Trace, Old Fashioned Copper Vintage two thousand 754 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: and six bottle Sounds Good, Sounds Really good, d Weller Vertical, 755 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: Blanton's eight bottle letter set, and more Big Bourbon Big prizes, 756 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: several Lucky Winners. 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This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Ryan is doubling 767 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: down on the the Mark poops thing. We've all said 768 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: it knowledge he said it once. I was confused. 769 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 7: I thought Ron was saying we did it when Stoop 770 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 7: wasn't good. Now, I've had to slip during the Dion 771 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 7: Walker interview that everyone remembers, I've never done. 772 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: You let it slip one time because then you started 773 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: laughing at yourself. You're sitting right there in that spot 774 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 5: right there. 775 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 2: Well, I said, sit in this spot like every day. 776 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's said here. 777 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 2: It's not a different spot. I remember. 778 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: I can remember the moment when it happened, because you 779 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: were kind of laughing at yourself. 780 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that happened. We have Quiz Night 781 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: to hit here at the bar. It's Quiz Night Drew 782 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: with a guy named Quiz. 783 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 4: It's gotta be good then, right, it's that is right. 784 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: His name is Quiz So the guy that gives the 785 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: quiz name is Quiz So. Uh so you can come out. 786 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: It's different than my trivia. It's a little easier and 787 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: it's a little different. So it's Quiz Night with Quiz 788 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: tonight at Chaos. I mean, I'm told it's Quiz Night 789 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 2: with Quiz though tonight you can come on out. And 790 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: we also have Wings Day so you can quiz and 791 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: dollar wings and burgers, et cetera. Uh. By the way, 792 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: we got good reviews on our NFL episode from our boss. 793 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: So we're Drew and I are happy about that. We 794 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: got to think from the NFL because we didn't know 795 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 2: because we really didn't talk about football at all during 796 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 2: any of the stuff. And they they still they liked it, so. 797 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 7: That was good, and they had a little like they 798 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 7: proved they listened. Like at one point I said ranch 799 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 7: instead of blue cheese. They called me out on that. 800 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 7: They mentioned about Billy's shoes. 801 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: The guy from the NFL specifically said, uh, tell Billy 802 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: I like his Dick Van Dyke shift. So they were 803 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 2: dialed in. Which is uh? Which? Nice? Text machine seven 804 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: seven two seven four five two five four h one 805 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: person rights, Matt. I've seen all this about fights about 806 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: all different things. You said you don't think it was women. 807 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: Could it be religion? No, come on, come on, but 808 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: come on, like be reasonable. That doesn't happen either. We've 809 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: had players over the years that were every religion. That 810 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: people are just people, just wwar in twenty don't just 811 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: start fighting like they're not like people on the internet 812 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: who get mad about everything like that. These dudes know 813 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: each other. If they don't like each other, it may 814 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: just be it's it's I guarantee you. It is very 815 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 2: likely just personality based, like I don't like you, You're 816 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: not someone I want to be around. That's what usually 817 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 2: ends up beating You know, when when Oscar was here, 818 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: and again I like Oscar, they didn't dislike him because 819 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: of religion. They didn't like him because they thought he 820 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: kind of thought he was better than everybody, and there 821 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: were different rules for Oscar than there were for everybody 822 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: else in their mind. I'm not even saying they were right, 823 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: but that's what they thought. That's why they didn't like 824 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: each other. So it's not the things people like. This 825 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: is not people arguing about the latest comment from Keen Jefferies. 826 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 2: These are people who just like you annoy me, and 827 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't like you. 828 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 7: You know what's so weird about it is in the 829 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 7: few things we've been to, they seemed close. And usually 830 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 7: when their locker room problems, you know it right away 831 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 7: and that stuff leaks out before they even start playing games. 832 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 7: Everything seemed just fine up until a week or two 833 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 7: ago it did. That's what's so weird about all of this. 834 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: The women's team won though, by forty, so that's a lot. 835 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 5: Maybe we'll look back on last night after the heart 836 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: to heart fifty minute meeting after the game, maybe things 837 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 5: turn around. We can all point back to that night 838 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 5: that everything turned around for this team and they've joined 839 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 5: four way. 840 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: So see, I would have thought that maybe, But then 841 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: how do you explain Pope afterwards? Like if they came 842 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: out of that meeting like, okay, here we go, Wildcats, 843 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 2: year we go, then why did he come out being 844 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: park Mobe. 845 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 7: We didn't know it was a meeting, could have just 846 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 7: been sitting in the back in the dark. 847 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: If they might have all just been sitting there listening 848 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: to Morrissey that it. 849 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 7: Would have been nice, though, with it taking so long, 850 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 7: if you did come out and be like, sorry, I'm late. 851 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 7: The guys stood up start talking about what's wrong, how 852 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 7: they're gonna fix it. I didn't want to break it up. 853 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 7: It was a good moment for a locker room. 854 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 2: But he was like, oh, no, I don't know what 855 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: we talked. Yeah, that's that's that's partially kind of why 856 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 2: it doesn't doesn't feel great. Who's next, Joseph, Joseph, go ahead, Joseph, morning, guys, 857 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 2: how are you? I'm doing good? All right? 858 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 6: Before I before I get to my main point, which 859 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 6: is mostly negative. Can I just try to say something positive? 860 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 6: Of course you can, all right, So what a luxury 861 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 6: is it to have a coach that actually cares about losing? 862 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: Agree? 863 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 6: You know, we aren't that we aren't that far removed 864 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 6: from a guy who would want to go watch The 865 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 6: Little House on the Prairie after every law So whatever. 866 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: The hell it was. 867 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 6: So I'm happy that Pope cares. But with that being said, 868 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 6: I was praying that when he came out to that 869 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 6: press or he wouldn't talk about how disappointed they are 870 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 6: and the typical song and dance that he does after 871 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 6: we lose. I wanted to see some fire and frankly, 872 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 6: some anger, yeah, because I feel like this, this like 873 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 6: moping around rubs off on this team in the wrong way, 874 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 6: and you see it in their body language and how 875 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 6: they react to things, and I just wanted I wanted 876 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 6: some anger. 877 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: You know. 878 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 6: I just don't think this team responds well to the I. 879 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 2: Actually think that's a really good way to put it. 880 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I don't know, I don't know 881 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: that this team responds well to sadness. But then again, 882 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: I mean for back to the locker room pregame story, 883 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: The story that I heard that again may not be correct, 884 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 2: was that people were used to one kind of pope 885 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: and then a different pope walked in the locker room 886 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: and they were like, who's this dude? You know? The 887 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: story was that he went up to like Jayalen Lowe 888 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 2: and was like, Mickel Brown's better than you. Don't you 889 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: want to prove it? Don't you want to prove it? 890 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 2: And they were like who are you? Like like like stop, 891 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 2: and it maybe threw them off again. I don't know. 892 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 2: So you do have to be within your personality Drew, 893 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: whatever that is. 894 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 7: And Pope has a lot of strengths. We saw them 895 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 7: last year. But I'm really starting to question him getting 896 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 7: ready for these big games and how he's going to 897 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,959 Speaker 7: handle a deep roster where he's got to manage minutes. 898 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 7: He didn't have to do that last year. This year, 899 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 7: he's got a lot of dudes that need to play, 900 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 7: and he has not figured out rotations yet. 901 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 9: No. 902 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 2: Patino just did an interview where he said he didn't 903 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 2: think we paid twenty two million dollars for the roster, 904 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 2: that he thinks that's exaggerated. So maybe that's good. I 905 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 2: don't know. We'll be right back number two ks Ry