1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Esp Nation and T Mobile present the twenty twenty one 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: MLB Draft First Round Review. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome in to SB Nations MLB Draft Round 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: one recap. We're all to you by T Mobile. I'm 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: your host Sam Wilson, along with John Stileness of The 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: Good Fight and Eric Stephen of True Blue LA and guys, 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates with the number one pick select catcher 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: Henry Davis out of Louisville. Davis was projected go within 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: the top five picks tonight, but wasn't mentioned a lot 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: for that number one overall spot. Did the pick shock you? Guys? John, 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: you can start first and then Eric will get your response. 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Not really, I mean I think you was projected to 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: be a top top four, top five guy. The name 14 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: you saw mock to the Pirates in most of the 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: mocks that I looked at, anyway, was a shortstop out 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: of Eastlake High School in California, Marcella Meyer. And a 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: lot of the conversation with the Pirates was whether or 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: not they were gonna try and get somebody who they 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: could pay under slot a little bit so that they 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: could spread that money around in the second and third round. 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: And that's a lot of the reason why Meyer's name 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: was attached to him. But you know, Henry Davis, is 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I love taking a college catcher, you know, especially a 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: guy with hit with it, who has looks like he 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: has the ability to hit as well as this guy does. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: He's got a terrific arm behind the plate. 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: You know. 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: It seems like if you're going to build a team, 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: one of the one of the hardest positions to get 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: right is catcher. And if you can get yourself a 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: blue chip offensive catcher behind the plate, you can you can. 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: Really be successful at the big league level. 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: And uh, and Henry Davis, you know, again, we don't 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: know what these guys just starting off, but looks like 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: it's a pretty solid number one overall pick in a 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: draft when there was really no consensus number one. 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and for you, Eric, Yeah, so I think it 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: might have come down to, like not necessarily sign ability, 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: but like John mentioned, being able to sort of spread 40 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: around your bonus pool, like throughout your you know, your 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 4: ten picks in the first round. That's how the recommended 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: slots for the first ten rounds determined the bonus pool, 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: and the Pirates had more money to spend than anyone 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: but maybe maybe they don't spend full slot on the 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 4: first pick, so maybe one of those two high school 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 4: shortstops Jordan Lawler or Marcelo Meyer might have been, you know, 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: the right pick for them. But you know, getting getting 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: Henry Davis is also pretty great, like you know, in 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: terms of talent, and it might give them a little 50 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: bit more money you can you can reach a little 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: bit or go for some of the guys who dropped 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 4: with maybe the second round pick or something like that. 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 4: So I think that that probably played into it more 54 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: than anything. 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: Now, there were a lot of top draft prospects that dropped. 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: We already mentioned Marcelo Meyer. Jordan Lawler was another one. 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: Kumar Rocker, what were some drops that shocked you guys most, John, 58 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: you can start again. 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think you know, I think the big 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: one you mentioned it just a minute ago was Khalil 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Watson was a guy who was expected to go in 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: the top ten. Marlins ended up getting him at number sixteen. 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: Wake for a short stop. I mean, he was a 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: guy that everybody was kind of surprised to see drop. 65 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: And I think some of the unusual moves early in 66 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: the early in the first round kind of you know, 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: it was an unusual It was an unusual draft here 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: with with the Oriols going with Colton Cawser at number 69 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: five again taking a guy who I think we're talking 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: about something they did last year too, was trying to 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: spend under the slot a little bit in the first 72 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: round to spread the money around in the second and 73 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: third round. Going with Kowser in that spot and the 74 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Royals going with Franklin Mozicado kind. 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: Of just shook up the draft board a little bit. 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, the Marlins end up getting 77 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: a steal in a major conference college shortstop, a guy 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: who can play up the middle. Guy was expected to 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: go at least six or seven spots before he did. 80 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: For him to fall to the to the Marlins of 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: sixteen was great value for them. 82 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for you Eric. 83 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: You know a lot of people were talking about ty 84 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: Madden right hand or out of Texas. Some of the 85 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: rankings like Baseball America, I believe Bangrafts as well both 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: had him as like the twelfth best prospect, but he 87 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: sort of dropped. I think he dropped all the way 88 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: to the he was picked tonight in the supplemental rounde 89 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: or Yeah, the competitive balance Round A. He went thirty 90 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: two overall, so not quite you know, maybe where he 91 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: would have thought, but like, let's see who actually got him. 92 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: I guess the Tigers got him, so they maybe that 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: ends up being like a good pick for them in 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: terms of like being able to spend extra money on 95 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: one of the later picks, even though the slot isn't 96 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 4: isn't as high as some of those early picks. 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was just going to say, like, and 98 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to gloss over Kumar Rocker going to 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the Mets at number ten, because Sam, you mentioned him 100 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: when you were asking the topic. I mean that is 101 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: that's a big thing for the Mets. I mean, for 102 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: to get one of the Vanderbilt right handed pitchers, a 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: guy who a lot of people again thought was going 104 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: to go top five, to fall for them at number ten. 105 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: They really liked him, they really wanted him. It was 106 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: kind of surprising that he as long as he did. 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: JJ Cooper has this stat on Rocker, which is I 108 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: think my favorite stat of the draft. He threw Kumar 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Rocker through eight hundred and twenty eight breaking balls opponents 110 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: hit eighty one against them. 111 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: He against with eight hundred twenty eight breaking balls. 112 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: He gave up eighteen hits in those eight hundred and 113 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: twenty eight breaking balls, twelve singles and six doubles. 114 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: So he's got command issues. 115 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's a little up and down, but that's 116 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: a guy when you've got stuff like that, and you 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: can get him at number ten when he's expected to 118 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: go top five. And you know, these Vanderbilt pitchers are 119 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: just they come off an assembly line. 120 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: There. 121 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: It's tremendous value for the Mets. So two National League's 122 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: teams really make out well in the first round. 123 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, and John to go along with that, Kumar Rocker, 124 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: he did have some of those command issues you saw 125 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: more in this year, which kind of dropped his value, 126 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: as you already mentioned. But if you look back to 127 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: that twenty nineteen year before the pandemic, obviously he had 128 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: an outstanding year and was even in the College World 129 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Series the most valuable player. So it's more of a 130 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: do you believe this sevent that you see that's outstanding 131 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: or the twenty five percent that's iffy. 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: Right, And we have to remember too, with the pandemic 133 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: last year, a lot of these high school and college 134 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: seasons got cut short. College college seasons got canceled, and 135 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: even coming into this year, things were a little hinky 136 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: with a lot of these different colleges. So you know, 137 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: it's it's you don't eat the pandemic effects all these 138 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: different players in all kinds of different ways, and I 139 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: think you're looking at you're just trying to find. Okay, 140 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: let's let's find some of the guys in college and 141 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: high school, especially pitchers who have who have you know, 142 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: we can project their velocity, we can project their breaking stuff, 143 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, we can we can project these different kinds 144 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: of things with reasonable certainty. And that's why I really 145 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: love going after the college pitchers in the first round 146 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: because at the very least, you've seen them pitch against 147 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: better competition. You've seen you've seen them pitch a little 148 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: bit more. You've seen them pitch against the best, you know, 149 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: the best collection of high school players in the country 150 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: all go get Division I scholarships. I want to see 151 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: I want to see those guys perform against college hitters, 152 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: as opposed to spending first round picks on high school pitchers, 153 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: where there is so much more Uh, it's it's so 154 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: much more vulnerability in making a pick there. 155 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, we already talked about some of the prospects 156 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: that dropped. What were the most notable names for you 157 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: guys that snuck their way up, John, you already mentioned 158 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: Colton Kowser at number five to the Orioles. What were 159 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: some other names that kind of snuck their way in 160 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: that shocked you guys, Eric, you can start this one off. 161 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think, you know, covering the Dodgers, I've 162 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: been focused. They had the twenty ninth pick, so I 163 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: sort of focused on the like the back end of 164 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 4: the first round, and like they managed to They drafted 165 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: a guy named Maddox Runs who I'm certain I'm gonna 166 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: misspell his last name, but he was Most of his 167 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: like released rankings were in like the you know, the 168 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: forties and fifties and in that sort of range. But 169 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: they sort of they don't have enough their pick because 170 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: they forpitted their second round pick. They don't have another 171 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: pick to the third rounds. That was part of it, 172 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: But you know, see some of these things. I think 173 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: also Jackson job at number three to the Tigers. You know, 174 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 4: he went ahead of both of the two shortstops we 175 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: talked about earlier who could have been like the number 176 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: one overall pick, So maybe that was a reach in 177 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: terms of like a surprise at least in terms of 178 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: going that high. So yeah, it's it's hard, like that's 179 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 4: the thing I want to stress like with without like 180 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 4: devoting full time resources to knowing. It's really hard to 181 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: know about these players because a lot of them are 182 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: high school high schoolers, and we know the college people 183 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: at least a little more. But baseball such a daily sport, 184 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 4: it's hard to like keep track up other stuff, even 185 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: if it's within baseball, and so like it is, there's 186 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: a lot of guessing games. Obviously the teams know a 187 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: lot more and devote more resources to it, but it 188 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 4: is a this we're all like on a fact finding 189 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: mission now, like after the picks are made and trying 190 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 4: to figure out exactly who these people are. Just as 191 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 4: a point back to a little bit to Kumar Rocker, 192 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: it's weird. The MLB draft is not like other sports 193 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: like college and and excuse me, football and basketball. You 194 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: have guys going straight from college to the pros. In 195 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,479 Speaker 4: some cases, I guess high schooler used to be in basketball. 196 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: But those are stars that people actually know about and 197 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: they contribute right away. Nobody contributes right away in baseball. 198 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: It's always like a little bit of a development curve. 199 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 4: So even like someone like Kumar Rocker, he's not going 200 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: to debut in the majors, I would imagine. And so 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: yet the fact the fact that the Mets picked him, 202 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: John was right on on this. He is like one 203 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: of the true stars of the draft. Like people knew 204 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: about him in twenty nineteen when he threw the no 205 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: hitter in the Super Regional. And I mean, and he 206 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: has a cool name, like literally Kumar Rocker. That's like, 207 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: that's a badass name, and so like, I don't it's weird. 208 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: I think the Mets with new ownership there, they're going 209 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: for buzz. And obviously my Rockers talented enough to be 210 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: drafted where he was drafted, but just to have that 211 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: sort of buzz, I think that that's a little bit 212 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: of an extra room for that pick for them. 213 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and John, what about you, What were some of 214 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: the names that surprised you that snuck their way in. 215 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you the player that the team that 216 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: I covered, the Phillies took at number thirteen. Andrew Painter 217 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: was surprised to see him go where he did. I 218 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: mean the second straight year the Phillies have targeted a 219 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: young high school right handed pitcher last year going and 220 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: getting Mick abele and Able seems to be progressing really 221 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: well in the Phills minor league system. He's having a 222 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: very good first full season in the miners there. But 223 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, when you've got Khalil, I know, you know, 224 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: following the Phillies Twitter verse, you know, all of the 225 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: armchair experts were calling for Khalil Watson. 226 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: Obviously as the as the. 227 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: Pick was coming down, it was seemingly it was you've 228 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: got this really good seeming prospect right there, and you 229 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: go out, and you go out and you get Andrew Painter, 230 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: who could be very good. I know the Phillies talked 231 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: about that they saw him throw ninety six ninety seven 232 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: miles an hour for them at different points in different 233 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: games that they saw this year and a lot of times. 234 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: That's what you also have to rely on too, is 235 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, these teams send their own people out to 236 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: watch these kids, and you can't you know the people 237 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: who follow these who these players. You know, Baseball America, 238 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: Baseball perspectives, fangrats, they have people who go out and 239 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: see these kids once in a while, and you know 240 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, maybe a half dozen times, but you 241 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: can't see every start, you can't see every performance, and 242 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: so the teams had do their own due diligence. Obviously, 243 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: they have their own area scouts who see these kids 244 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: a lot more, and so you kind of have to 245 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: you kind of have to say, Okay, maybe the Phillies 246 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: saw something here and Andrew Painter that not a lot 247 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: of other teams saw. Because Painter was not expected to 248 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: go this high. I think people were targeting him in 249 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: the twenties at some point, maybe even a little bit 250 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: further down than that. And you know, it's if you're 251 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: looking at the biggest bust rate as far as draft 252 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: picks go, it's high school pitchers. It's it's the lead 253 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: dependable grouping of players in the first round. And it 254 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: always makes me nervous when you keep doubling down on 255 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: high school pitching, high school pitching, because there is a 256 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: bigger bust rate for that than there is for anything else. 257 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: So the Philly is going two years in a row, 258 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: going out and getting another high school right handed pitcher, 259 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: and Andrew Painter seemed a bit early to me, seemed 260 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: a bit of a reach to me, but they obviously 261 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: like going after high school pitchers here and obviously felt 262 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: pretty good about Andrew Painter to take him at number thirteen. 263 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: Now, for the first time tonight, the MLB Draft was 264 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: held on All Star weekend, and then it's also for 265 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: the first time cut from the usual forty rounds down 266 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: to just twenty this year. Do you guys think either 267 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: of those aspects affected last night's around one? 268 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think from the people involved, 269 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: I guess like the teams, they have their like specific 270 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: departments sort of working on the draft. However, it's it's 271 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: a huge cluster. Like I think it's good from an 272 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: excitement standpoint to a point to have the draft like 273 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: at the same time as the All Star Game, But 274 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: then again, we have two off days sitting here after 275 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 4: the Alstar Game Wednesday and Thursday that MLB could have 276 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: had the draft on it had days all to itself. 277 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: And but like for instance, today there was a false 278 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: slate of Major League Baseball games, the Futures Game, which 279 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: is like the showcase of the everyone in the like 280 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: the top prospects in the sport. They're playing at the 281 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: same time as major league games, so like, who's really 282 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 4: watching it? That should have been like a Wednesday thing. 283 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: And then the draft is the draft is always weird 284 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: because it goes on during the season when games are happening, 285 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 4: so that's not that big of a deal. But they 286 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: could have had it where it's had in its own schedule, 287 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: it's got the off days and it's its own thing 288 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: and still generated the excitement. I guess maybe it's hard 289 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: to get that many people together for like four, like 290 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: five or six days in terms of like the baseball industry, 291 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 4: it's rather than like two or three. So maybe that's 292 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: why it's all crammed together. But it does seem like 293 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 4: a little much like all it once to have, like 294 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: everything going on at the same time. 295 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, John, What were your thoughts on it? 296 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I see what baseball is trying to 297 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: do here. They're trying to bring some more eyeballs to 298 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: the draft and they're trying to pump it up more 299 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: like the NBA Draft and the NFL Draft. But to 300 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Eric's point a few minutes ago, we don't know who 301 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: any of these kids are. We don't know who any 302 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: of these high school kids. None of the high school 303 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: players are. No one knows outside of the scouts who 304 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: cover these kids. And you know, unless you unless you 305 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: are an sec sports fan and you're really into college baseball. 306 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: And let's face it, there's not a lot of American 307 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: casual sports fans who really follow college baseball all that closely. 308 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: You don't know who Kumar Rocker is. You know, you 309 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know who Jack Lighter is. You don't know who 310 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these different guys are unless you are 311 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: really into college baseball. Whereas casual sports fans, they know 312 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: who DeVonta Smith is. You know, they know who the 313 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: top NBA prospects are. And so when those drafts happen, 314 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: these kids are already stars. I mean, you already know 315 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: who all these players are, and it's like, oh, who's 316 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: going to go where you're you're excited to see which 317 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: of these players is going to go to? 318 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: Which team? 319 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Is my team going to get this guy I really 320 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: liked in college. That's just not the way it is 321 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: with baseball, and so it's never going to be that event. 322 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: And that doesn't make. 323 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: The Major League Baseball Draft a bad event. It just 324 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: means there's only so much you can do in order 325 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: to in order to make this a marquee event. So 326 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: I like Eric's idea of there's you know, there's only 327 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: one day on the sports calendar where there's absolutely nothing happening, 328 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: and it's the day after the Major League Baseball All 329 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Star Game. That's a perfect time to do it. It 330 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: gives fan that would give fans something to kind of 331 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: pay attention to, as opposed to like, like you're saying 332 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday, when you've got the final games of the 333 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: unofficial first half of the Major League season ending, and 334 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: you got players, you know, we're still naming All Stars 335 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: to the All Star team for players who are getting injured. 336 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: And all that stuff. 337 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: There's just there's so much else going on, you know, 338 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: it didn't make sense. I get what they're doing to 339 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: have it during the All Star Game. To me, I 340 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: think it still makes more sense as a separate event, 341 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: simply because I think it also kind of a month ago. No, 342 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know the Major League Baseball Draft was happening 343 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: during the All Star Game. Didn't even occur to me 344 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: that that with June passed and there was no there 345 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: was no draft, so it didn't It didn't really give 346 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: it any more gravitas. 347 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: As far as I was concerned. 348 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: I sort of liked having it later, not necessarily at 349 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: the same time as other events like it is, but 350 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: you know, previously the draft was like first week or 351 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: two of June, and it was like before the College 352 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: World Series or right as it was starting. So you 353 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 4: had a lot of situations where teams are draft guys 354 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: and then you're you're sitting there watching your like the 355 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: team from a team's perspective to the team, the player 356 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: you put a commitment in, and you're going like, Okay, 357 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: maybe don't throw this guy one hundred and forty pitches tonight. 358 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing. 359 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: So like, at least now it's like it's like after 360 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: everything's done, you have a better idea. So like that 361 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: part of it is good. But I agree like making 362 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: its own sort of thing. Even if you tied it 363 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: to All Star wee can make it. Make it All 364 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: Star Week or what or whatever, like or Baseball Development Week, 365 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. But like, have the 366 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 4: draft have its own day and like give it. I mean, 367 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 4: look tonight, what the draft was for a lot of 368 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: the night opposite the NBA Finals and obviously the NDIA 369 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 4: Finals aren't going to be in July in oral years. 370 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: But it's just weird how things sort of work against 371 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 4: like the baseball in that respect. 372 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: Now, before we get into some of our favorite and 373 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: not so favorite picks of last night, let's get some 374 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: more information about tonight's number one overall pick catcher, Henry Davis. So, 375 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: who better to talk to than Jeremy Brenner of Bucks dugout, Jeremy, 376 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: welcome in. 377 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 5: Thanks Sam, Thanks for having me. It's a crazy day 378 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 5: in the Burgh. But I think, considering how things are, 379 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 5: people in Pittsburgh should be really happy about this. 380 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get right into it. So I 381 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: saw Henry Davis linked as the Pirates possibility maybe once 382 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: or twice, and it wasn't really until today that you 383 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: started seeing his name connected to the Pirates. Were you 384 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: surprised at all by the Pirates number one overall pick? 385 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 5: Yes and no. At the same time. It's difficult because 386 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: we've been looking at this for a couple of months now, 387 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: and if you look at who we thought it was 388 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 5: gonna be during the season, it was like back and 389 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: forth between Kamar Rocker and Jack Lighter, and it was 390 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 5: back and forth one day it'd be rocker on top, 391 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 5: the other day it would be lighter on top, and 392 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, these last couple of weeks, 393 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 5: Marcella Meyer comes up as like the number one option, 394 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 5: and I think he was the person most people were 395 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: expecting tonight going into the night to be that number 396 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: one pick. 397 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 398 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 5: However, you know, just in true Pirates fashion, the thing 399 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 5: is with this draft. The thing is with this specific draft, 400 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 5: it's not like last year where Torkelsen was the obvious 401 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 5: number one pick, or the previous year where Adlee Rushman 402 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 5: was the clear, no doubt number one pick. So the 403 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 5: Pirates had a bunch of different opportunities. And with Ben 404 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 5: Sherrington this being his first draft as the Pirates GM, 405 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: there was no like, there was nothing to back this 406 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: off of. So we really had to decide, We really 407 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: had to decide who was going to be the guy. 408 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: And you know, we were thinking he was gonna be 409 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 5: We were thinking he's gonna be Meyer. But the fact 410 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 5: that they went Henry Davis is I think a good 411 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 5: thing because they went middle infield last year with Nick 412 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 5: Gonzales and the fact that and we have shortstops that 413 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 5: are coming in through the system, O'Neil Cruz is likely 414 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: going to be that guy moving forward. Rodolfo Castro, who 415 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 5: has hit two home runs this past weekend, he's probably 416 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 5: gonna be the second baseman for the next several years 417 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 5: after this likely Adam Fraser trade that's gonna happen within 418 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 5: the next three weeks. So they have talent within the 419 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 5: middle infield. And when you're drafting number one overall, you 420 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: don't necessarily want to go by by need, by a 421 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: specific vision. You want to take the best player, but 422 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 5: at the same time, you need to look at what's 423 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 5: best for the organization, and I think Henry Davis could 424 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 5: be a catcher. However, I think there's also a chance 425 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 5: that he could play maybe in the outfield, maybe first 426 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 5: base possibly. So I think the Pirates came to the 427 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 5: conclusion that this guy, Henry Davis, was the best possible 428 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 5: bat that they could have gotten. They wanted to go 429 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 5: best player available, and with this draft, it was kind 430 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 5: of a cloudy idea as to who that really was. 431 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, it really only 432 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 5: mattered what the Pirates thought because they were the only 433 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: ones with the number one pick. They took their guy, 434 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 5: and they are smiling at their decision that they've made. 435 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: You already mentioned his versatility, and obviously one of his 436 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: biggest pros is Davis is an offensive minded catcher, which 437 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: I know from experience they like and a lot of 438 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: teams really like. But break down some of the pros 439 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: and cons of the backstop at his current level. 440 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, So he was the number he led the acc 441 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 5: in batting this year. He was batting three seventy this year, 442 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: which is insane. And he also I believe he had 443 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: more more walks than strikeouts, which that's I think the 444 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 5: one thing that's so important about out the game. You 445 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 5: want to get guys that don't know how to get out, 446 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 5: and that that's really out it is. It's like it's 447 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 5: like the moneyball approach in a way where you know, 448 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 5: you're not necessarily looking for guys that are hitting the 449 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 5: home runs or necessarily getting guys that are going for RBIs. 450 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 5: But there's a whole lot of value in guys that 451 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 5: just are a tough out. And but the good thing 452 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 5: about Henry Davis too is he's not just a guy that's, 453 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: you know, not going to get out. He can mash, 454 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 5: he can hit for power, he can hit for average 455 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 5: and he can be that backstop, which I think catcher 456 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 5: might be the hardest position to really find out of 457 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: anyone because catchers are such a specialty position, I guess 458 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 5: other than pitchers, but catchers are such a rare find 459 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: that guys like Henry Davis who have this plus power, 460 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: who have this you know, ability to be a power 461 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 5: hitter as a catcher, that's insanely, insanely valuable. And I 462 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 5: really think the Pirates, I don't know. I don't think 463 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 5: they view him necessarily as a catcher because he is 464 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 5: more offensive minded than his defense suggests. So I personally 465 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 5: think that the Pirates looked at this guy as a 466 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: utility guy. Maybe he can play behind the play. If 467 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 5: that works out, great, If it doesn't, we can you know, 468 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 5: they have Jacob Stallings who's had a decent year, but 469 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: he's not really going to be the guy for the future. 470 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 5: There are also several other catchers, which I'm sure you 471 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: know in the system that they're working on. So there 472 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 5: is not a guarantee that Henry Davis is going to 473 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 5: come up to the big leagues, whether it be two, 474 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 5: three years from now, maybe four years as the team's 475 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 5: you know, backstop of the future. However, I do think 476 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 5: that you know, it's but it's really nice to have 477 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 5: that option Sam of having a country. Yeah, it might 478 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 5: be the hardest position to find out of all of 479 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 5: the ones, you know, all of the offensive position. 480 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, to your point, I mean, you can transition 481 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: a catcher or somebody that starts as a catcher to 482 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: another position. You can't. Yeah, you can't take somebody from 483 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: the outfield and necessary just throw them back behind the plate. 484 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: You know, but you already kind of mentioned this. Looking 485 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: at the Pirates organization as a whole, they have a 486 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: good amount of utility and middle infielders, and that was 487 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: one of the things that kind of made me skeptical 488 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: when they were looking at shortstops these last couple of 489 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: days at their number one overall pick. What were your 490 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: thoughts about some of the mock drafts coming into tonight 491 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 2: where there are some names that you kind of really 492 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: stuck on, and are there any that you really hope 493 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: they kind of took instead of Davis? 494 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 5: You know, I think I would have been happy if 495 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 5: if Meyer was the pick who was supposed to come 496 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: in tonight. The thing is, the Pirates need talent that's 497 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 5: just the end all be all. They need talent. They 498 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 5: were the worst team in baseball last year and they're 499 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: in the middle of this this rebuild that they have, 500 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 5: and I would say that most of the roster that 501 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 5: is going to be there when they are competitive again 502 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 5: is not there right now. You can argue that Brian 503 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: Hayes will be there when the team is good again. 504 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 5: You can maybe make that argument for a guy like 505 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: Brian Reynolds, who's going to be in the All Star Game. 506 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 5: It's only twenty six years old. Maybe he'll be there, 507 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 5: you know, in his early thirties as this contending Pirates 508 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 5: team kind of takes shape. But other than those two guys, 509 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 5: there's really very few guys you can say, yes, he 510 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 5: will definitely be there when this team's rebuilt is over. 511 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 5: So I think you can argue for anybody that was 512 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: in that top five. You could argue for Meyer, you 513 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: could argue for you could argue for Henry Davis, you 514 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 5: could argue for Jack Lder. You could make the case, 515 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 5: you know, for I mean, there were a lot of 516 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: surprises with the third pick, with with Detroit and then 517 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 5: with Baltimore. Kamar Rocker went all the way to ten, 518 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 5: like if he was the number one pick, I don't 519 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 5: think people would have seen much of an issue with that. 520 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 5: The thing is, there's a lot of talent at the 521 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 5: top of the draft in so many different areas, and 522 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: the Pirates need a lot of talent in various different areas, 523 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 5: So there is obviously cons to every guy as well. 524 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 5: And I think the big con with Meyer, which I 525 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 5: think that's like the story of the draft tonight, really 526 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 5: is why did Marcello Meyer faull to four. It's not 527 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 5: usually something we see where the projected one one drops 528 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 5: as much as he did, and I think a big 529 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 5: reason for that might have been the fact that he 530 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 5: felt maybe he deserved a little bit more money. There's 531 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 5: always the there's always the concern that if you take 532 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 5: a guy that is a high schooler that they can 533 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: go to they can go to college like somehow like 534 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: Brady Aken a few years ago was the number one 535 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 5: overall pick for the Astros and he opted not to 536 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 5: sign with them and he went into college, and I 537 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 5: think that is maybe that was a fear that they had. 538 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 5: I don't know how other teams what their reasoning was 539 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: by passing him, But also at the same time, you know, 540 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: you can make the argument for passing on Meyer because 541 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 5: the Pirates just really like Henry Davis or the Rangers 542 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 5: just really like Jack Glider. So I think that the 543 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 5: reason they made their decision like they were, they were 544 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: basically splitting hairs. And had they picked Meyer, had they 545 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 5: picked Jack Glider, had they picked Tomorrow, I would have 546 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 5: been totally fine Jordan Laller as well. But tonight they 547 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: went Henry Davis and they got a talented, a very 548 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: talented player, And I think that at the end of 549 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 5: the day, that's that's what the Pirates need. 550 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: You mentioned that the Pirates need a lot of talent 551 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: in a lot of positions. Looking at these next couple days, 552 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: what are some areas that you kind of hope the 553 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: Pirates draft within these next couple rounds. 554 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: I would like for them to go pitching, pitching, and 555 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 5: more pitching. I think that they they really need as 556 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 5: many arms as possible. There's a lot of guys right 557 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 5: now within the team, like there's no real like I 558 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 5: get there's Quinn Priester, who's played in the futures game, 559 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 5: but there really isn't like a surefire like pitching prospect 560 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 5: that everyone's like looking at other than Quinn Priester that 561 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 5: they're really, like, really excited about. So I think pitching 562 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 5: is definitely high on on Ben Sherrington's priority list. However, 563 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: I mean, he had the chance to go and get 564 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 5: like a highly touted college arm and he opted for 565 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 5: Henry Davis. Maybe that's just a sign though, of how 566 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 5: much he's really liked Henry Davis. So I think pitching 567 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 5: is definitely high on Sherrington's list, And I would be 568 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: honestly pretty surprised if they went maybe to the fourth 569 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 5: round and didn't pick up at least one pitcher. So 570 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 5: I definitely expect a pitcher to be the pick at 571 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: the second round or the third round, or if not both. 572 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: Jeremy, thank you so much for joining us before we 573 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: let you go. Tell the listeners where they can find 574 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: your work and all your socials. 575 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: Absolutely thank you. 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Let's 586 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: jump right into our favorite and not so favorite picks 587 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: of the night. So, guys, what was your absolute favorite 588 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: pick of the night? For me, I have two. I 589 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: can't really decide. I really like Jordan Lawler at number 590 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: six to Arizona. He was one of the best defensively 591 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 2: on the board and he dropped somehow to number six, 592 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: so that was a great pick by them. I just 593 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: think he has that star power and I think it's 594 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: going to carry him. But I also hate to love 595 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: we already mentioned it the Mets number ten overall, Kumar Rocker, 596 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: because I just think he's going to prove to be 597 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: something very, very scary for my favorite team in the 598 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Phillies, of course, So those are my favorite picks. 599 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: What about you? 600 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 5: Eric? 601 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: In a weird way, not so much for the pick itself, 602 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: but the one I sort of loved was Jack Lighter 603 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 4: going second. Overall, and not necessarily just because he went second. 604 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: But I happen to be watching the ESPN broadcast when 605 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: that happened, and he was not on site in Denver, 606 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 4: so they had like a mobile interview with him, and 607 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: he was already decked out, like in a Rangers jersey. 608 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: So like the first question Karl Rabbits asked him was, so, 609 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 4: how many jerseys did you have there? Because he didn't 610 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 4: need to know any thing, and like there was this 611 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: weird zoom lag so it was like a very odd thing. 612 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: But then lighter eventually he's like, yeah, I have like 613 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 4: ten of them, you know. He just sort of admitted it. 614 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 4: And I always thought that, like that kind of stuff 615 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: is fascinating to me, Like just the preparation these guys 616 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 4: have to go to there. It has to be like 617 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 4: a closet full of jerseys just to be prepared for anything. 618 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 4: Or imagine you did that and then you fall to 619 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: like sixteen and you don't have that team's jersey. That's 620 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 4: that's that's rough. So like that that was my favorite pick. Yeah, yeah, 621 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: I'll go with check Layer. 622 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have the jersey, it's kind of like, dad, 623 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: go give me a red shirt. You know, like John, 624 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: what was your favorite? 625 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean our lighter pitched for enough teams they probably here, 626 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: probably has some in the in the closet anyway, right, 627 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I'm going you know, obviously Rocker 628 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: with the Mets and and Watson with the Marlins are 629 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: two obvious ones. One of the other ones I wanted 630 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: to mention. How could we not mention Max Munsey. No, 631 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: not the Dodgers perennial All Star, but the Thousand Oaks 632 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: High school shortstop out of California, drafted by the Oakland 633 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: A's at number twenty five. Yes, there could be another 634 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: Max Munsey in the major leagues within the next few years. 635 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: I just think it's hysterical that these two, that these 636 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: two people both named Max Munsey, who are not related 637 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: but share the same birthday. 638 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: Think about this. Wow, they share the same birthday. 639 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: And I believe Max Munsey, if I'm not mistaken, was 640 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: also in the Oakland farm system before he went over 641 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: to the A's, and I am I beforeing over to 642 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I think I don't think I'm crazy when 643 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: I say that. 644 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a fifth round pick in twenty twelve, 645 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 4: and then he got released in like the end of 646 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: spring training into night seventeen, Dodgers swooped in and then 647 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: like a year later he was like thirty five home 648 00:30:59,280 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: runs for them. 649 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 3: Right, it's very weird So's. So the A's are absolutely. 650 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: Dead set on having not making a second Max Mounthsy 651 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: mistake by taking him number twenty five overall. 652 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: Love that pick. 653 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: So I don't want to say worst, but so we'll 654 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: say the riskiest pick of the night for me. I 655 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: we already talked about the risk of a picture out 656 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: of high school. So for me, it's the number seven 657 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: overall pick. Kansas City taking the left handed pitcher Frank 658 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: Mazacado and he's from I forget something Christian in Connecticut. 659 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: But I think that is the riskiest thing. He performed 660 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: well this last season, but like we said, it's already 661 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: risky one to take a high school pitcher, and then 662 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: two to take it out of the Northeast. I think 663 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: he's the first one since like twenty fourteen to be 664 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: taken that early out of a Northeast high school. So 665 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: I just think that is my riskiest pick of the night. Eric, 666 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: what about you? 667 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: So in a weird way, as much as I do 668 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: love the symmetry of Max Mounty getting drafted by the age, 669 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: He's actually my worst pick because I did want him 670 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 4: to fall to the Dodgers at number twenty nine, just 671 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 4: so the Dodgers could have both Max Monthsies. Also the 672 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: fact that he went in the first round the same 673 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 4: day that other Max Monzie happened to hit a walk 674 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: off home run for the Dodgers, So like very would 675 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: have been very symmetrical, and also too like older Maxmothsly, 676 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 4: I guess we'd call him is on his way to 677 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: Denver or what was on Sunday night, and like they 678 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: could have met up like on Monday or something in Denver. 679 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 4: Just I don't know. It's just a weird situation. So 680 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: that would have been my worst But the more I 681 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 4: thought about it, like had both maxi Monzies been with 682 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: the Dodgers, you could have had a situation where, say 683 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: in spring training, not necessarily next year, because he's a 684 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: high school infielder, maybe he's not going to be in 685 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 4: major league camp. But let's say in like twenty twenty 686 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 4: three spring training, both Max Mounzies are sitting there. Are 687 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 4: are they allowed to touch each other? Is this a 688 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: ron silver and top situation. It does like the universe 689 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 4: fold in on itself, like so it's it's I didn't 690 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: want I don't want to play with that kind of danger. 691 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: So actually I'm sort of glad that Dodgers didn't take 692 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: him and. 693 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: John for you. 694 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of the riskier picks was the 695 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Mariners taking Harry Ford Catcher out of North. 696 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: Cobb High School. High school. 697 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: We say high school pitchers are the riskiest type of 698 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: player to pick, and that is true, only perhaps followed 699 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: closely behind by high school catchers. And you know, I 700 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: think if if it works out, he seems like he's 701 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: got He's got a nice combination of size and flexibility. 702 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: I like how ESPN described him. Kyler McDaniel described him 703 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: as being built like a powerlifter who's also a yoga instructor. 704 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: That sounds like something you want out of a catcher. 705 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: But taking a high school catcher at number twelve man, 706 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: the list of high school catchers taken in the first 707 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: round who never pan out to be anything is a 708 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: long and not so distinguished list. So that to me 709 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: is a move. And I and I hate the Phillies 710 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: taking Painter. I just I cannot when when you've got 711 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: when you've got Watson sitting on the board there, I 712 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: just think is going to be you know, I think 713 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: is a much better prospect than Painter. I think it's 714 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: an unnecessary risk to take for for a farm system 715 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: that desperately needs talent, and they need talent everywhere they 716 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: can get it. But I think especially off on the 717 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: offensive side of things, they need they need some really 718 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: good players in that farm system. And you know, they 719 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: they took a guy who is probably not going to 720 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: be ready to pitch for them for another four or 721 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: five years. 722 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 4: In a similar vein the Dodgers with their pick, they 723 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: took Maddox Runs, who again I'm gonna try to not 724 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 4: say Burns, it's in my head. I can't stop. But 725 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 4: he has a commitment to Mississippi State. He's a high 726 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 4: school pitcher. I guess he's actually nineteen now. He pitched 727 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 4: it at prep school last year. Under the current like 728 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 4: front office, it is like the seventh year of their 729 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 4: seventh draft they've been a part of. They've only taken 730 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 4: one other high school pitcher in the first round, and 731 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 4: that was JT. Gin in twenty eighteen, who also had 732 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 4: a commitment to Mississippi State and then they weren't able 733 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 4: to sign him. Like it didn't. It's not a killer 734 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 4: because you get a compensatory pick the next year if 735 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 4: that happens, but it sort of sets things back. And 736 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 4: I'm not saying this new Maddox Bruns is not going 737 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 4: to sign, but maybe the Dodgers are trying to maximum 738 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 4: see the situation where they take another Mississippi State guy 739 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 4: trying to convince him to sign. This time they do 740 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: it and then they can sort of erase the bad 741 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 4: juju fn that. 742 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: Well, it is going to be interesting this year too 743 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: to see how many guys decide to actually go with 744 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 2: their commitment now that they can make money off of 745 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: their name with nc double's new rule. So that's going 746 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 2: to be an interesting thing to see if it affects 747 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: the draft at all. 748 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how much that's going to affect college 749 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: pitchers as I mean, I think college basketball players and 750 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: college football players certainly stand to gain a lot, and 751 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: college baseball players I'm sure stand to gain something too 752 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: if your likeness is used in video games and whatnot. 753 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: But you know, I think to for I mean, Eric, 754 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong but you know, it doesn't 755 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: seem to me that you know, for a high school 756 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: picture noess, or for a high school I'm not high 757 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: school pittchure. For for a college baseball player, that the 758 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: reward might not be quite the same as what we 759 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: would see for basketball player and football player. 760 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I think just in terms of being known, 761 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 4: like you know, there's the upper end, like Kumar Rocker 762 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 4: relatively known, but like he's not going to be doing 763 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 4: like he's going to be doing like a more of 764 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: a local ad, you know, somewhere in Nashville for at 765 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 4: Vanderbilt or something like that, had he you know, stayed 766 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 4: in college or something like that. Maybe he's a national guy. 767 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: Like I don't see like these massive endorsement deals or 768 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 4: anything like that happening. But yeah, it'll be interesting. I 769 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 4: sort of like the local aspect of it in terms 770 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: of like you know, the local car dealership or like 771 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: the local steakhouse. And so I'm a big fan of 772 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 4: like just the low budget production of like local commercials. 773 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 4: So like the more of those we can have, and 774 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 4: like they're creative to they're they're pretty funny. So like 775 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 4: I'm on board. 776 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So these next couple ones. It's completely just kind 777 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 2: of made up because obviously we didn't have too much 778 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 2: time to look up these guys most likely to make 779 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 2: their MLB debut first. For me, I think the safest 780 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: one with that is right handed pitcher Jack Lader. We 781 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 2: already said it. The Rangers, I think is the perfect 782 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: team for him to climb up right away, and I 783 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 2: think he'll be the first to debut. 784 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: What about you, John, Yeah, I had Jack later as well. 785 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: I think Jack Lader, you know, certainly has the anytime 786 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: you're a college pitcher coming from a program like Vanderbilt. 787 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: You are you're pretty. 788 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: Much major League ready, and so in that vein also, 789 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: I think you also have to look at Rocker as 790 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: probably being on a similar timeframe. 791 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 4: I agree with that in a sense, just like he's 792 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 4: probably more known. But I think I wonder if if 793 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: he's used like saying this year, it would it would 794 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 4: probably be in relief. I would imagine I was looking 795 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 4: at some of the previous draft. I think the last 796 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 4: three at least dating back to like in the last 797 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 4: like ten years or so, the last three players drafted 798 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: and then playing for the team in that same year, 799 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 4: we're all relievers. Paco Rodriguez with the Dodgers in twenty twelve, 800 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 4: Brandon Finn again with the Royals in twenty fourteen, and 801 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 4: then Garrett Crochet last year with the White Sox. Some 802 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 4: of these pitchers who like sort of are quick risers. 803 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 4: They might start in relief and then go to starting later, 804 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: like Kyle Wright did that with the Braves. But yeah, 805 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 4: I don't know, like it could be something like maybe 806 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 4: Bednar from Mississippi State. Not that the like the Giants 807 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 4: would necessarily well they who knows, they might need him, 808 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 4: but he looked pretty great in the College World Series. 809 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 4: He was most outstanding player, So maybe it's him for me. 810 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 4: But it really is a crapshoot in terms of figuring 811 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 4: who's going to be first. Isn't always necessarily who's gonna 812 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 4: be best. Like Chris Sale was the first picture to 813 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 4: the Majors in twenty ten, and you're like, okay, that 814 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 4: makes that makes sense looking back on it, he's pretty great. 815 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 4: But you know, maybe it's okay to wait just a 816 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 4: little bit for some of these guys too. 817 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so now going into the next one, this is 818 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: a total crapshoot. To take your word, Eric, who's the 819 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: most likely to be in the Hall of Fame. And 820 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 2: for me, I don't want to say lighter again, so 821 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to say Jordan Lawler. I just like his name, 822 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 2: I like the star power. I think he's gonna be something. 823 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: What about for you guys, John, you can go first. 824 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: I will go with Marcelo Meyer. I think he's number 825 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: one in a lot of people's drafts for a reason. 826 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: There seems to be a lot more There seems to 827 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: be a lot more upside with his bat's He's a big, 828 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 1: you know, good sized kid, six foot three, left handed, 829 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: hitting shortstop. It seems like he's going to be able 830 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: to stay at shortstop, above average defender. There, good footwork, 831 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: good hands, good arm strength. You know, I think I think, 832 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: and he's gonna play for a Red Sox team that 833 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: really knows how to develop players. I mean, they just 834 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: they churn out good young players pretty regularly. So you know, 835 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: I think the the obviously answer of you want to 836 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: say is, oh, the guy take a number one Henry Davis. 837 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: You know, I think that certainly is a good possibility. 838 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 1: But I think Marcela Meyer is a kid who seems 839 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: like he's got a ton of upside and plays a 840 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: premium position for the. 841 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 4: Sake of being different. Because I don't want to double 842 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 4: up on that. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with 843 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 4: Henry Davis. And again, I'm not going to pretend to 844 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 4: know a ton about Henry Davis. But I John was 845 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 4: convincing earlier about just sort of the high floor of 846 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 4: like having ice college catcher and potentially being good in 847 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 4: the majors. He went number one, Like, I was sort 848 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,760 Speaker 4: of stunned at this, Like, how few number one overall 849 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 4: picks are actually in the Hall of Fame. I think, 850 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, Kim Griffy was the first, and 851 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: like Chipper Jones after that. So obviously, if you know, 852 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 4: I guess eventually could get in by like the Veterans 853 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 4: Committee in like twenty one seventeen or something like. But yeah, 854 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: and I guess maybe Joe Mauer could get in eventually. 855 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 4: But there's very few number one overall picks, So I 856 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 4: just just hoping that a number one pick actually makes it. 857 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go, I'll go with Henry Davis. 858 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: Se So you're down on you, You're downe on Mickey 859 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: Moniac's chances of getting still doubting. 860 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 4: I'm still holding out for Matt Bush. 861 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: Okay, this next one, nudge hug Mary out of the 862 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: top three, So Henry Davis, Jack Later and Jackson Joe. 863 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: I nudge Jackson Job Hog, Henry Davis, sorry to my fiance, 864 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 2: you know the conflict of interest there, and then Mary 865 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: jack Later. What about you guys. 866 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I have it kind of the same way. 867 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: I've I'm nudging Job, I'm hugging Lighter, and I am 868 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 1: marrying Davis. 869 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 4: So I just picked Henry Davis to go to the 870 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. But I'm gonna sh I think I'm 871 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 4: just gonna hug him. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna 872 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 4: go with marrying Jack Lighter because like, let's say, even 873 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 4: if he doesn't work out, you still have like Al 874 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 4: Lighter in the family. So it's kind of a cool 875 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 4: thing to be like Thanksgiving and stuff. And then I 876 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 4: have to nudge Jackson Job again. High school pictures are risky. 877 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: He's as far as I can tell, he's not related 878 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 4: to Frank Job, who performed the first Tommy John surgery 879 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 4: and just is actually a legend probably should be in 880 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: the Baseball Hall of Fame. But like, I'm not saying 881 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 4: this makes it likely he's gonna get injured. But to 882 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 4: have that name as a pitcher, it's like, you know, 883 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: it's it's the opposite of outman or something like that, 884 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 4: like a cool name. So it's unfortunate. So since he's 885 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 4: in the top three, Sorry Jackson, I have to have 886 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 4: to cut here. 887 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: And to your point too about having lighter in the family, 888 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: It's not a bad family to be a part of 889 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: because him, his dad, his uncle, his cousin, all MLB guys. 890 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: So it's good company to be a part of. 891 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 4: That's a fun Thanksgiving table. Yeah, exactly right. 892 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 2: Imagine the stories, imagine the autographs, all that that comes 893 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 2: along with it. Before we go, guys, I need a 894 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 2: rundown on some of these names and some of their 895 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: star power. 896 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,959 Speaker 4: Okay, so I was looking through this is a tough 897 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 4: So we talked about Kumar Rocker, one absolute star name. 898 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 4: It's great that the Mets took him, Like you wish that, 899 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 4: you know, you know, perfect world. He's he pitches for 900 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 4: the Mets like next week or something that's not gonna happen, 901 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 4: but like, you know, that's awesome. Let's say he's great 902 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 4: out of the Gate. But another great name who isn't 903 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 4: gonna pitch for a while because he had Tommy John 904 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 4: surgery is Gunner Hogland. Which Gunner come on like perfect name, 905 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 4: Like that's a rock it's a literal rock star name, 906 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 4: So like that's pretty great something I was looking forward to. 907 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: Obviously Maximuncy, because you want I want to Maximunzies to 908 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 4: be in the majors, and and I just for the 909 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 4: A's sake, it would be great if Maximonze works out 910 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 4: for the A's in this situation. The other in a 911 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 4: weird way. So there's a couple. I didn't have time 912 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 4: to go through every single name, but a couple of 913 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 4: names that stood out. Michael McGreevy, he went eighteenth to 914 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 4: the Cardinals. His name actually anagrams to very chemical gem, 915 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 4: So does that mean he's using like foreign substances. Does 916 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 4: that make him better or worse? I don't know. But 917 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: then the other one that maybe is a little unfortunate, 918 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 4: Sam Freelick, who went number eleven to the Brewers. His 919 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 4: anagram name or his name anagam's to frill cakes, So 920 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 4: maybe should have been a baker instead of baseball player. 921 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 4: But who knows? He was trapped in the It's probably 922 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 4: gonna work out. 923 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 3: Can I add something about John Yeah? 924 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 925 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: On Mike McGreevy, I don't know who who here is 926 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: familiar with the movie A Little Big League, But one 927 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: of the players on the Twins in that particular movie 928 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: is Mike McGreevy, one of the one of the starting 929 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: pitchers for the Twins. He's think he's the the malcontent 930 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: who wants to get traded and is upset about playing 931 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: the Twins and demands that Billy Haywood trade him. And 932 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: he says, well, I don't know if you're gonna pitch 933 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: me every day, my concentration is gonna start getting beat 934 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: out there. 935 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, that's up to you, man. 936 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: What's the going rate for a a has been starting 937 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: pitcher who loses concentration and can't get anybody out. It's funny, 938 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: it's it's a great Have you seen Little Big League 939 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: Guys my alone on an island here? 940 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 2: Not since I was young. 941 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, the premise for that movie is wild, but yeah, 942 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 4: it holds up. It does hold up at baseball movie 943 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 4: from the nineties, like a perfect baseball movie. I love it. 944 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it holds up. 945 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: Really really well, it's very sabermetrically inclined actually as you as. 946 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 2: You watch it. Yeah, yeah, I will say one of 947 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 2: the things I've noticed about the names this year, there's 948 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 2: a lot of alliteration. I mean, even if we just 949 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: start with number three, four and five Jackson Joe, you 950 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 2: got Marcelo Meyer, and then you got Colton Cawser, and 951 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 2: then obviously he said Matt McGreevy, we got Max Munsey. 952 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 2: So there's so many alliteration names this year. Maybe it's trending. 953 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: And Frank Muntzakato it sounds it's what a great Italian 954 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: name that is. I mean it sounds like a brand 955 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: of cheese that you would buy and in it's just beautiful, beautiful, 956 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: maybe like. 957 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 2: A Mazzarello or a Mozzarella mescato mix right there. 958 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, see, you get me. 959 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 4: Another name I forgot about who went just after the 960 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 4: first round that was picked on Sunday night in the 961 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 4: competitive balance round A. He was number thirty one overall. 962 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,760 Speaker 4: Another high school catcher. But his name is Joe Mack 963 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 4: And I like that, if only for the reason to 964 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 4: resurrect the Draft Day. The NFL movie with Kevin Costner 965 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 4: where he has the post it note that says Vonte 966 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 4: mac no matter what, and like I just I hope 967 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 4: to God the Marlins, like you know, draft guru or 968 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 4: whoever was in charge of that pick literally had like 969 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 4: a post it somewhere that said Joe Mack no matter what, 970 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 4: I pray for that to happen. I want it to happen. 971 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 4: So I'm sort of glad for that. 972 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 2: Well, guys, thank you again, John, Eric and Jeremy for 973 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 2: breaking on the first round with me. Eric, you go first, 974 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 2: let everybody know where you can be found and your. 975 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 4: Social media absolutely so. You can find my writing at 976 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 4: True Blue LA covering the Dodgers, occasionally at Alo's Heaven 977 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 4: for Angel Steph. I'm on Twitter at Eric Stephen that's 978 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 4: Steven with a pH and thanks for having me. 979 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: And John, what about you? 980 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 3: Yep, Mike right for the Good Fight. That's p H. 981 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: I g h T the Phillies ESP Nation site and 982 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: you can follow me on Twitter at John Stollman. 983 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 2: And thank you all for tuning in to SB nations 984 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one MLB Draft Round one recap. We will 985 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 2: join you again tonight for a live home run Derby 986 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 2: Green Room with special guests John Cruck,