1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: And it was a riot. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: That's the only way to describe what was happening at 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: Columbia University, and a president at Columbia that protected and 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: defended the rioters till the very bitter. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: End these outside agitators. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: Is now how the university's trying to describe them, when 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: just days ago they were saying that they were students 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: that had a right to protest. Now they're trying to 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: distance themselves from these radicals. Charlie Hurt on Fox News 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: Channel said this about the protesters at Columbia taking over buildings, 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: breaking into the buildings. Here's what he said. It was 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: a very interesting perspective riots. 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: We were told they were mostly peaceful. Well, are they 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: going to claim that this is peaceful tonight too. Are 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: they going to say it's okay for students to take 16 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: over an entire hall at a university the way they 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 3: took it over violently last night. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: Well, let's be clear if these were Trump supporters shutting 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: down an American campus, or these were Republican voters who 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 4: were behaving like this on an American campus, hectoring students 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: for their for their for their religion. This that none 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 4: of this would be happening. This would all be wiped 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: clean immediately. The FBI would be on the scene, everybody 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: would be arrested and thrown under the jail. 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: It would be a whole different scene. 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: But of course, you know, I think the probably the 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: most important thing that we will remember from history when 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: we look back at this at this time is the 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 4: degree to which Democrats, from Joe Biden all the way 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: down to rogue local prosecutors have taken the Justice Department 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: and taken the system of justice and used it as 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: a political weapon to go after all of their political enemies. 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: And in this case, of course, you know, Democrats are 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: they made a deal with the devil. They're desperate to 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: get these these urchins here, these loud mouse these punks. 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: They're they're desperate to get them to vote for them. 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: So they're they're they're in a real pickle and they 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: don't know what to do. Obviously, you know, they should 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: be charged to the fullest extent, just the way we 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 4: all said should happen for January sixth, anybody that was trespassing, 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: charging with trespassing. 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 5: The problem is they went. 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: So far beyond that in charging with all this other 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: stuff for which there was no evidence whatsoever, and they've 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 4: they've tortured, you know, what they put these people through 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 4: is just astonishing. 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 6: But the other thing I'd like to say is that 48 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 6: you know, the Columbia University has a massive endowment, it's 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 6: tax free. They they created the situation, they allowed this 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 6: to happen. They I can only imagine what this operation 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 6: is costing the tax payers of New York City. I 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 6: hope that that Columbia University will be forced to pay 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 6: NYPD for every dime of overtime of person now everything, 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 6: every cost that they're having to spend for this should 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 6: come right out of Columbia's endowment. 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: By the way, he's right, and if Republicans, we're doing 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: this of conservatives, if Magus supporters were there, if these 58 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: were Trump supporters shutting down a campus, this will be 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: it would be wiped clean immediately. The FBI would be 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: on the scene and everybody would be arrested. The point 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: that he's making there is spot on about this. It's 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: not only that Elizabeth Warren, right, she's a radical on 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: the left. She just went on MSNBC and she was 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: asked about the campus protesters. You know what she said, 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: She defended them saying this is freedom of speech. 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 7: Listen, and Senator the Biden campaign certainly stressing that it 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 7: was Trump appointed justices who did indeed overturn Roe v. 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: Wade. 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 7: Want to get your take on these campus protests we 70 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 7: have that have consumed the news the last few days. 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 7: Columbia University, a few schools out west and many in 72 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 7: the heartland as well. Your thoughts on the appropriateness of 73 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 7: what the administrations have done, whether what the police have done. 74 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: And you know, as someone. 75 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 7: Who has noted has a lot of progressive and support, 76 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 7: are you concerned progressives that young voters are going to 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 7: because of this issue, are going to break away from 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 7: the president. 79 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 8: I am grateful to live in a country where people 80 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 8: can raise their voices, where they can make them heard 81 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 8: by their elected officials. It's crucial that any efforts at 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 8: protest be peaceful and that no individuals be attacked. No 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 8: one should feel threatened. This is what open dialogue is about. 84 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 8: But we need to keep the focus on what's happening 85 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 8: in the Middle East, and we need to bring real 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 8: pressure to bear here. Look, it is time for a ceasefire. 87 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: It is a long pass by the way. 88 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: You notice that she doesn't answer question, right, why I 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: ask liberals a question where they have to actually and 90 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: you notice that's called pandering. 91 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: Why did she pander that way? 92 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: Because she knows that she needs these people to vote 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: for her extremist, radical views and she can't have Democrats 94 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: not show up. So notice she doesn't condemn any of 95 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: what's happening at Columbia University, taking over buildings, breaking into buildings, like, 96 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: none of that is she going to condemn. And the 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: reason why is very clear, and that is because the 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: same reason why Joe Biden hadn't come out and condemned 99 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: what's happening. Joe Biden has not come out and condemned 100 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: any of this. Joe Biden has not come out and said, hey, 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: this is wrong. Joe Biden has not said for these 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: outside agitators to go home. He has not called for 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: accountability of the students that were involved. He has not 104 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: called for people from outside the country that are part 105 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: of this to be held accountable for what they are doing. 106 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: None of this. There's been zero. 107 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: Accountability or calls for accountability from those that are involved. 108 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 2: And that is part of the biggest problem here because 109 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: they they are so afraid. Okay, they are terrified that 110 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: young voters are not going to show up. And so 111 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: that's exactly why I was with the Wards, like, well, 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: we need to be this is about the ceasefire, right, 113 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: It's about the ceasefire. 114 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: And then she says this about freedom of speech. 115 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 8: It's time for a ceasefire. But we need to be 116 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 8: pushing on the parties to get that ceasefire. And we 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 8: have got to open up for humanitarian aid. Literally thousands 118 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 8: of people are on the brink of starvation. We've got 119 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 8: to get that humanitarian aid. And it's time to get 120 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 8: these hostages back home. They have been held for months 121 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 8: and months and months. No one knows their medical condition. 122 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 8: They've got to be brought back home. And then the 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 8: biggest part, the United States must give a big shove 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 8: to both parties to come to the negotiating table work 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 8: out a two state solution where two people can live 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 8: side by side with dignity, with self respect, with self determination. 127 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 8: That's how we need to move forward. 128 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: Kumbai. 129 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah for you there by the way, the last thing 130 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: you said, love that idea. How do you do that 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: when you have people that are coming in as paragliders 132 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: and cutting off the heads of infant children and baking 133 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: them in ovens and kidnapping you. Like, I love the 134 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: idea of living side by side. 135 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: I really do. 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: But I'm also not a moron, right, I'm not a 137 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm not an idiot. And I know what the other 138 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: side did. I know what they did when they attacked. 139 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: I know what they did, and they still have the 140 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: hostages right now, months and months later, as she described. 141 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: But she's like, but let's live side by side. 142 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned this. 143 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: If you live next door to somebody and every six months, 144 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: they just randomly, like you know, fire bombed your house, 145 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: would you think that that's coexisting in a good way? 146 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: Would you describe that as something a scenario that you 147 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: could live with, Like if you're just randomly at your 148 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: house and every six months somebody just started shooting at 149 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: your house, would would you stay there and live in 150 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: that scenario? Because that's what she's saying is coexisting looks 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: like because they fire rockets indiscriminately on a regular basis 152 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: into Israel, looking to kill anyone that they can kill, 153 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: Like they're not there's not a target, Okay, it's just 154 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: it's just killed somebody. Any any any dead Jew is 155 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: a good Jew right, any any any Jew you can kill. 156 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: That's what the quote other side, and she's like, well, 157 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: we do see that they need define a two state 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: solution where well, then don't have your government be run 159 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: by terrists. There's an idea for you don't have a 160 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: government that is actually run by terrorists. Mayor Adams, I 161 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: love how they change their narratives so quickly. In New 162 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: York City said quote, A substantial notumber of agitators have 163 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: come from outside of Columbia. Wait, wait, well then, why 164 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: did you guys say a couple of days ago that 165 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: this was just freedom of speech and students on campus 166 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: have a right to freedom of speech. What you knew 167 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: it was outside agitators. You could find it online. They're 168 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: paying people to be there. They're coming from Democrats, Democrats 169 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: that are funding this, George Soros type people that are 170 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: funding it. This is not hard, folks, this is incredibly simple. 171 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: Take a listen to Mayor Adams now pointing the finger like, oh, well, 172 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 2: this isn't really the students at Columbia, which, by the way, 173 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: there was a ton of students involved. Don't think for 174 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: a moment that I'm going to let them get away 175 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: with this. Where They're like, oh, no, this is actually 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: all outside people. Know what it was a ton of students. 177 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 2: Yes they're outside agitators, but the students were absolutely leading 178 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: this at Columbia. 179 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 9: Listen, I just clarify the forty to fifty. 180 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 4: Are they people that you. 181 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 9: Know to be professional agitators you just refer to them 182 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 9: as children? Are they students? So just so we know, 183 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 9: how many of the people that you arrested last night 184 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 9: were professional agitators who had no affiliation with Columbia University 185 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 9: and how many of them were students who are at 186 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 9: Columbia University. 187 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 10: A great question, and we are sorting through that now. 188 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 10: It has been indicated by Columbia when they reached out 189 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 10: that the substantial substantial number were outside influences of you 190 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 10: know you when you look at the wearing all black, 191 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 10: covering your faces completely. 192 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: Uh, those methodologies. 193 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 10: You know, our intelligence divisions study this type of behavior 194 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 10: across the globe. We just had a team that just 195 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 10: returned from overseas looking at some of the methods that 196 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 10: are being used with these actions. There's no coincidence that 197 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 10: you're seeing these young people across the globe being trained 198 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 10: with the same type of individuals. 199 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: And that's what that is our concern. 200 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 10: It's more than just Columbia, it's more than what we 201 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 10: saw at City College. 202 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 5: This needs to be a clarion call for our country. 203 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 10: These are our children and we can't allow them to 204 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 10: be radicalized like children are being radicalized across the globe. 205 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: Hold on a second, So, so now you're saying that 206 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: the students that you're arresting are are not actually students. 207 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: You're saying they're radicals, they're being radicalized. But you let 208 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: them do this for days on end because you were 209 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: claiming it was the students and they had a right 210 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: to free speech. I am so confused here on what's 211 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: actually happening now, Like which one is it? Are they 212 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: radicals that are students or are these outside agitators? Now 213 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: the basically half of the student body at Columbia, more 214 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: than half, actually. 215 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Are from overseas. 216 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: They're foign students at Columbia. So is there going to 217 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: be any repercussions for them if you come in and 218 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: you're an outside agitator? 219 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fair question. 220 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: I just want to know five three five ninety seven 221 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: three two five three five ninety seven three two And 222 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: of course they try to downplay the fact that they 223 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: are like taking over buildings and total anarchy by saying 224 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: their children right like their. 225 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: Children and listen to this. He's challenged again about this. 226 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: Here's another example of this BS ONMBC News. 227 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 11: Just American Morning. Can you talk to the series of 228 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 11: events yesterday that led Columbia to ask you and the 229 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 11: NYPD to step in here and help out with the 230 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 11: situation at Hamilton Hall. I know it was a last resort, 231 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 11: probably for you, but also for the university. What brought 232 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 11: you there. 233 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 10: Really the team Commissioner Kban and his team. They were 234 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 10: speaking with Columbia representatives and leadership as well as the 235 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 10: other colleges, and it was clear after I was breathed, 236 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 10: probably two days ago, the extent of the outside agitatus 237 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 10: asked Columbia University indicated in the letter to us that 238 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 10: we had to do something, and I really encouraged them 239 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 10: to look at this for the safety of the students, 240 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 10: for the facility. 241 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 5: And then after. 242 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 10: Breaking into Hamilton Hall, I think that the leadership at 243 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 10: the school realized that we are concern was actually materializing 244 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 10: and we had to really move in for the safety 245 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 10: of those children's and do it in the right way, 246 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 10: and I see the independent observers saw how the police 247 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 10: department deploy and use precision tactics with minimum amount of 248 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 10: force because these were children, to make sure that we 249 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 10: could really eradicate the problem that we were seeing. 250 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: So we could eradicate the problem we're seeing. So we 251 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: went from it's not a problem to it's a problem, 252 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: a problem that we have to eradicate, to then the 253 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: university saying they need our help because their buildings are 254 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: being in essence torched, and so now we've got a problem. 255 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: We've got to eradicate the problem. But it's not the 256 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: fault of the students, even though it's clearly the fault 257 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: of the students on campus that allowed for this to happen. 258 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: NBC News Joy saying this as they were going into 259 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: the building that have been occupied by the protesters and 260 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: some of them students. NBC News is Winter all right, 261 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: saying this while it was happening. 262 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 12: Listen carefully now on the phone is NBC News Tom Winter, 263 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 12: who's been in touch with police as we're watching this 264 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 12: unfold live on air, Tom, what can you tell us 265 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 12: about how the police are approaching this situation and any 266 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 12: directives or request they've gotten from Columbia University. 267 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 13: Yeah. So, as NBC News was first to report about 268 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 13: half an hour ago, Columbia University transmitted a letter to 269 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 13: the City of New York authorizing the New York City 270 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 13: Police Department and the city to enter its premises to 271 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 13: make any sort of rest that they deem appropriate or 272 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 13: a system in any way. Colomba University is obviously private 273 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 13: property in the City of New York, So the PD 274 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 13: just can't go on there for whatever reason just because 275 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 13: they feel like it. They either needs to be a 276 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 13: crime in progress or a complaint, or they need to 277 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 13: be asked on for the uh, they need to be 278 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 13: asked on. I want to point out a couple of 279 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 13: things you've been looking at. If you're looking at a 280 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 13: red flashing light on some of these officers, that's a 281 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 13: body worn camera. You've got a number of different types 282 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 13: of police officers that are going in on this specialty 283 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 13: vehicle that the NYPD has. Primarily the initial officers that 284 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 13: entered are part of the NPT's Emergency Services Unit. So 285 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 13: there's a saying that when you know, when the rest 286 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 13: of us need help, we call police. When the police 287 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 13: need help, they call Emergency Services Unit, and so the 288 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 13: officers that initially went in are part of the su 289 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 13: The officers that are going in now you've seen some 290 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 13: with cameras. They're there to document the arrests, to document 291 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 13: evidence what they've seen inside. And they obviously have the 292 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 13: flexi cuffs, they have the bulletproof vests and the ballistic 293 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 13: helmets as well. So their job is to go in 294 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 13: there the students. They are likely going to face, at 295 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 13: a minimum, trespassing charges, burglary charges, potentially vandalism charges. And 296 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 13: it's what's happening inside that hall Alex that has law 297 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 13: enforcement so concerned. Primarily they're concerned that there's a group 298 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 13: of anarchist type individuals who have no particular ideology. It's 299 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 13: pro Palestine today, pro Israel tomorrow, pro another cause next week. 300 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 13: But their main goal, police say, is to try to 301 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 13: find a way to engage and engage in a violent 302 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 13: way to fight police. And that's what has police so concerned. 303 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: I love this. 304 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: Now we're concerned about who they are, what they believe in. 305 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: Before we were standing with solidarity. We think that they are. 306 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: This is freedom of speech. We stand with them no 307 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: matter what. But what hold on. So now that you're 308 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: going in, now you say, well, we're concerned. They don't 309 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: actually have an ideology, they're just anarchists, and so therefore 310 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: it's okay to arrest them because they're just anarchists. 311 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: Which one is it? 312 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,239 Speaker 2: The narrative changing very quickly on the campus of Columbia University. 313 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 2: Early on, what it was was actually pretty simple. Early 314 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 2: on they said it was students just you know, standing 315 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: up for what they believe in, protesting against Jews, right, 316 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: very normal, just not a big deal, standing up for 317 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: what you believe in. And then the narrative changed drastically. Now, 318 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: how did it change and why did it change? Is 319 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: the question that we should all be asking the question 320 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: about how it changes, because now what they need is 321 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: a need for the narrative to change. They need the 322 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: narrative to change drastically because the students have become radicals. 323 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: The students have become pretty extreme. These students are now 324 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: breaking into buildings, taking over the campus. So that's obviously 325 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: a problem, right, like a pretty big problem. 326 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: So listen again to. 327 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: NBC News trying to change the narrative about these students. 328 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 13: They have the bullet proofsts and the ballistic helmets as well. 329 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 13: So their job is to go in there the students. 330 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 13: They are likely to face, at a minimum, trespassing charges, 331 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 13: burglary charges, potentially vandalism charges. And it's what's happening inside 332 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 13: that hall, Alex that has law enforcement so concerned. Primarily, 333 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 13: they're concerned that there's a group of anarchist type individuals 334 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 13: who have no particular ideology. It's pro Palestine today, pro 335 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 13: Israel tomorrow, pro another cause next week. But their main goal, 336 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 13: police say, is to try to find a way to 337 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 13: engage and engage in a violent way to fight police. 338 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 13: And that's what has police so concerned because they're worried 339 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 13: about the students that these individuals co opted. It's their 340 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 13: belief and the word that they could get hurt, and 341 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 13: they're certainly worried about the lives of their officers. So 342 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 13: that's really the concern. That was the reason why you 343 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 13: had the press conference earlier today, and that's why you've 344 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 13: seen such an escalation over the last eight to twelve hours. 345 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 13: And police is concerned about what's going on at Columbia University, 346 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 13: so that's why you're seeing the response tonight. 347 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 12: Tom Do they have any evidence that there are anarchists 348 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 12: involved here or is that just kind of a general 349 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 12: general concern. Just I'm looking at the police entering the 350 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 12: hall from the window of Hamilton Hall from a ladder truck. 351 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 12: It is a number of officers, and I'm just wondering whether 352 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 12: they've given any sort of intelligence on how and why 353 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 12: they believe there might be outside groups involved in this. 354 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 13: Sure So, I spoke to the head of NYPD's Intelligence 355 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 13: and counter Terrorism Program, get the Commissioner, Rebecca Winer, earlier tonight. 356 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 13: Chilson was part of the press conference. They say they've 357 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 13: uncovered evidence, and they've produced video and evidence that they've 358 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 13: recovered through security cameras, through social media posts online from 359 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 13: inside that hole, and they say they've identified a number 360 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 13: of individuals that are well known to the MIPD over 361 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 13: a number of years that they believe are definitely inside 362 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 13: of there. They don't know the totality of the individuals 363 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 13: that are inside. 364 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 14: Of there, but they say they have hard evidence that 365 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 14: these people are there. Time will tell you see who's 366 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 14: rust and we'll see what comes on in there, We'll 367 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 14: see what images we see. We'll always report and our 368 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 14: job and the o IPD understands this is too. We 369 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 14: never take anybody's word to face value. 370 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 13: But knowing the people and the type of investigators involved, 371 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 13: they do have a really good handle on these groups, 372 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 13: and so they absolutely believe this is not a theory. 373 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 13: They say they have hard evidence if that's the case, 374 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 13: and that's why they're so concerned about this whole and 375 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 13: that's why they were so concerned about the developments there today. 376 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 12: All right, well, they are certainly responding based on non 377 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 12: intelligence right now, NBC, I love this. 378 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: Right good, Yeah, they're responding. Okay, Well, now that we 379 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: know that it's not actually the students, we're going to 380 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 2: change the narrative completely. 381 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: And now that we think. 382 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: It's not students, well then now you can go in 383 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: there and you can shut them down. Now it's now 384 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: it's totally fine to do this. Right where's the president 385 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: on all this, Congressman Eagles asking that question. 386 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 15: Well, we haven't heard a word from President Biden. I 387 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 15: know that the White House said that they are condemning 388 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 15: anti Semitism, but we have yet to hear from the 389 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 15: President on any of this. What do you think the 390 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 15: president can do in the face of this, Well, you know, actually. 391 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 5: Speak louder than words. 392 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 16: You know, it would be great if he would speak 393 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 16: firmly to these university presidents to say enough is enough. Look, 394 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 16: if this was a Christian group, if this was a 395 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 16: conservative group. 396 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 5: They would be shut down immediately. 397 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 16: But because these are liberals, and because it's anti Semitic, 398 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 16: nothing being done about it. And so we've got to 399 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 16: defend our ally Israel. Look, they were attacked on October seventh. 400 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 16: And if you're defending Hamas, you're defending the rape of children, 401 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 16: and that obviously is unconscionable. 402 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: That's your you know, double standard standard we talk about 403 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: all the time. Happens over and over again. Alan Dershowitz 404 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: saying this about the students that are involved. 405 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: Listen, Professor Dershowitz, it never should have been able to 406 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: get to this point. And you know, having taught at Harvard, 407 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: you saw what happened. The American flag taken down, the 408 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: Palestinian flag put up in Harvard Yard. I'm sure that 409 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: breaks your heart. But you know, we got to tip 410 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: our hat to law enforcement tonight. 411 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 17: Oh absolutely, and we have to boom for every one 412 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 17: of these students. 413 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 5: Not a single one of them knows they want to 414 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 5: cease fire. 415 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 17: That as Secretary of State, Lincoln said today, the only 416 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 17: thing that stands between a ceasefire and the citizens of 417 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 17: Gaza is Hamas Israel law for the genuine ceasefire generousies fire. 418 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 5: Hamas has turned it down. 419 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 17: But I want to announce that since I said I 420 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 17: wanted to bring a lawsuit against these individuals who have 421 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 17: been harassing and threatening Jewish students, I've gotten more than 422 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 17: a dozen volunteer lawyers agreeing to bring the lawsuits. But 423 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 17: now we need help from your audience. We need to 424 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 17: know the names of the people who have harassed and 425 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 17: threatened Jews. I want students at Columbia who know their 426 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 17: names to be in touch with me so that we 427 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 17: can file lawsuits against them. The one good thing about 428 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 17: them being arrested, even if they're freed, we will learn 429 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 17: their names and we will sue every one of them, 430 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 17: and the district attorney can't stop us from doing that. 431 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 17: Civil suits are within our control, not within the control 432 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 17: of the police department. So we have a job to do. 433 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 17: I'm on top of it. Me thank you lawyers for 434 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 17: calling me in volunteering. Now we need the names of 435 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 17: the evildoers so they can be held responsible. 436 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: I gotta say I like Dershowitz on this one. There's 437 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: a lot of lawyers that are volunteering now, saying give 438 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: us their names and let's go like I mean, you know, 439 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: give us like, let's go, let's go. The left with 440 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: no choice. Columbia releases statement claiming protesters were led by 441 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: individuals who are not affiliated with the university, saying we 442 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: regret that protesters have chosen to escalate the situation through 443 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: their actions. That is a statement that came out from 444 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: the university saying we are left with no choice. 445 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 12: A little after nine pm this evening, the NYPD arrived 446 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 12: on campus at the university's request. This decision was made 447 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 12: to restore safety in order to our community. We regret 448 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 12: that protesters have chosen to escalate the situation through their actions. 449 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 12: After the university learned overnight that Hamilton Hall had been occupied, vandalized, 450 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 12: and blockaded, we were left with no choice. Columbia Public 451 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 12: safety personnel were forced out of the building and a 452 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 12: member of our facility's team was threatened. We will not 453 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 12: risk the safety of our community or the potential for 454 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 12: further escalation. The leadership team, including the Board of trustees, 455 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 12: met throughout the night and into the early morning, consulting 456 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 12: with security experts and law enforcement to determine the best 457 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 12: plan to protect our students in the entire Columbia University community. 458 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 12: We made the decision early in the morning that this 459 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 12: was a law enforcement matter and that the NYPD were 460 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 12: best positioned to determine and execute an appropriate response. This 461 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 12: is interesting. We believe that the group that broke into 462 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 12: and occupied the building is led by individuals who are 463 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 12: not affiliated with the university. Sadly, this dangerous decision followed 464 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 12: more than a week of what had been productive discussions 465 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 12: with representatives of the West Lawn Encampment. It goes on 466 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 12: to talk about the security precautions that they're taking on campus, 467 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 12: and they are making clear that the life of campus 468 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 12: cannot be endlessly interrupted by protesters who violate the rules. 469 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but like the leaf that embraces this, now 470 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: having to deal with it when it turns on them. 471 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: And if you think these protests are over, you're wrong. 472 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: Like it's going to keep popping up. It's going to 473 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 2: keep happening, so just get ready for it. They're not 474 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: done yet. There's still too much SOROWS money out there 475 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: to be spent, and too many agitators that are willing 476 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: to take paychecks, So get ready, folks, this is not 477 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: going away anytime soon. Make sure you share this podcast 478 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: with your family and friends. Please write us a five 479 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: star review and I'll see you back here tomorrow