WEBVTT - Emily West 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:16.239 Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown. She's 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.239 only in side. She got the snoop on the on 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.040 the ones to side. No one can do with clid 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:36.320 My Carola Carola. No one can do with Clie Carol Carola. Hey, y'all, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.959 welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.440 questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.479 heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.320 could be adult content, y'all. I'm pumped up. Emily West 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.320 is joining me. I have admired her forever. She is 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.720 one of the best voices I've ever heard in my 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.200 entire life. And I am not even joking. I'm not 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.520 making that up and I'm not exaggerating. Once you hear 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:07.640 her open her mouth and seeing you will just die. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.720 You'll fall in love. She's so magical and incredible and 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.520 she can do so much with her voice her personality. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.520 She's a character. She's like Barbara streisand meets Bette Midler 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.399 meets Share. She needs her own TV show. She got 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.120 second on America's Got Talent. She should have gone first, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.160 but I mean she got first basically in the voice 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.880 category because she lost a magician, so pretty much she 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.440 has the best voice in all of America. And you 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.880 will hear that. I'm so excited to welcome Emily West. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.720 And if you want to watch this, go to my 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:38.720 website Caroline Hobby dot com and click watch and you 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.040 can watch the whole episode. So here is Emily West. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.520 I'm so excited to have you here. I'm super pumped 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.240 to be in a studio. This is this is news 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.560 to me, how incredible this is. I thought we were 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.840 walking into an apartment, very happy. I'm happy to be here. Oh, 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.600 because you thought I was inviting you to my apartment. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.720 I thought we were just going to be chilling, looking 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:00.960 at you know, a voice m O on an iPhone, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.120 just talking. That's what. So the thing is in life, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.840 always shoot low and then you end up in a 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.160 studio totally. They say, is that your expectations are zero 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.880 right all the time. Yeah, but speak positively. I'm learning 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.360 to do that. Tell me your philosophy on life, Well, 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.200 I don't know. I'm in therapy right now. I love therapy, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:24.359 wonderful therapy. My philosophy on life is the reason why 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.960 I am in therapy, So I don't know what that 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.560 means now. My philosophy on life is I just I 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.440 don't know. Um, just speak truth right now is what 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.920 I'm trying to do. Speak truth. What do you feel 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.200 like your truth is? Right now? My truth is um, Like, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.399 don't comment on an Instagram that you're really not genuinely 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.839 happy about. I mean, I think those little things get 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.280 to everything, like because then you just if you're blurred 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:53.560 on one thing, then you're going to do that in 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.760 your your life. This is getting really deep. No, so 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.600 you're saying you want to be authentic and everything you do. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.000 So if you don't like social media is such a 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.080 huge part of our world. It is, and we live 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.839 in such a polite, everything is great world and then 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.480 you start going, but is it really all great? Is 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.240 it all great? And I think there, you know the 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.840 movie inside out, I just think that there's I'm a 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.040 big sad ballad writer and I love sadness, but I 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.920 don't want it to enter in my life. And I think, 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.280 I don't know, I really don't have any philosophy on life. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.560 I just think you need to speak truth and keep 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.000 a journal and keep a lock on it so people 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.560 don't find it journal about um. You know, it changes. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:38.040 Sometimes I'm this, um, Sometimes I just test out my handwriting, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.960 you know, just to see how that's going. How is 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.920 it going. It's going really well, I like, I like it. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:48.920 And then sometimes I just pretend like I'm Nora f 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.280 f Ron and you know, pretend that I'm a New Yorker. Um, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.560 I thought you are totally like a New York movie star, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:04:01.040 like Judy Garland and Nelly with some share little bit share. Yeah. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:06.160 I mean, just so many of those epic entertainers who 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.720 are not just actress, who are not just singers or actresses, 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.840 but they were the whole thing. I don't know how 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.640 to describe what they are. That that middler, Barbara streithan vaudeville, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.760 and you know the thing with vaudeville and country music 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.880 is that they basically tell the truth. I mean they 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.880 just you know, hello a little bit, you know. And 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.680 Dolly Parton is Vauville. She's just a truth teller with 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:30.160 sparkles and tatas. Yeah, has and you know, I just 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.680 think that's what vaudeville is. It's just a little bit 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:37.760 more um hello and um. Anyway, how did you learn 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.960 how to do all those voices. Oh, you know, I 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.320 think from boredom and me just maybe being shy. I 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.440 started off really shy as a little girl, and I 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.760 did a lot of watching people. I remember I couldn't 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.520 wait to be forty six. When I was five in 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.039 frend of a character that was like hello me, and 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.920 she did a talk show and she was, hello, well, 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.159 right now we're with s. Share came on the show. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.200 It's on my instagutent shared how to share? It was 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.960 she upset. Well, that was my best friend Mackenzy, and 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.080 she was like she hardly had any she was just share. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.159 She hardly spoke. She was a diva. But Joanie cuts 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.560 up Lists had big boobs and she was Greek and 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.560 she was hello, you know. But I couldn't wait to 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.840 be old when I was young. You I saw you 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.760 post a picture and you're like in all these like 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.159 jackets and pearls and pearl areas. You're like when I 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.040 was five, I was going on fifty six. Yeah, because 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.160 in Wait, I couldn't watch fifty because they just they 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.560 knew what they wanted, and I don't know, I just 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.240 I got to hide in myself and that little shy 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.479 in it in my shy girl nous. And then I 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.480 just think I did a lot of observing with people. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.880 And then I watched Oprah one day and there was 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.599 a girl on their doing an impersonation of a baby's 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:49.000 crying of a baby crying, So then I started doing that. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.200 I'm like, man, I could be famous at that. She 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.320 got famous from crying like a baby and then doing 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.640 a chicken noise, which I couldn't do. But then also 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.359 with Patsy Klein, I was in a pageant because my 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.760 sister was in a pageant and I was super jealous 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.560 of my sister, and I was eight years old. We 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.599 were in Muscotine, Iowa, at the holiday inn and my 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.200 mom said, what are you gonna do for your talent? 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.440 And I said, I'm gonna sing Patsy Cline. She had 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.440 no idea that I could sing um, but I just 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.560 basically imitated Patsy Klein for like five years and then 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.239 exactly how she sang yeah, and I just started imitating voices. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.479 So and I still imitate voices, but now I'm kind 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.680 of trying to figure out who I am, which is 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:29.520 why I'm in therapy, which is the best place to 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.359 be trying to figure out where to go right, you know, 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.480 or just make it a gift that maybe you just 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.120 you're unboxable and your your genre lists and make that 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.360 your gift actually are genre lists. I think you need 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.279 a TV show. But speaking of genres, let's talk about 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.119 the beginning. Because you started your whole career in country music, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.640 which to me you are you are country, but you 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.880 are so much more than country too. So how did 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.800 you pick country music as the genre. Well, that's a 0:06:56.800 --> 0:07:00.280 great question, and I remember I just loved Faith Hill, 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.039 you know, when that first record came out, Done Broadway 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.520 and all that too. I've never seen one Broadway. I've 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.600 only seen one Broadway in my life, and I've only 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:14.480 watched three music musicals, We Girls, Sounded Music, and Mary Poppins. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.400 But um, I just uh, I think country music at 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.360 the time, it was just I loved it. It was 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.280 nineties country, and I just loved good music. And then 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.720 I moved here and then I started Then they started 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:30.400 thinking about tractors and jeans and and I was trying 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.800 to morph into that. But then I was like that 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.200 was going against your soul. Yeah, because you came out 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.320 rocks in two tho I love that video. It was 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.960 very positive. Stephen Schefferd directed that video and it was 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.360 I did wear spanks where it kind of cut me off. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.920 So there was a lot of money on us trying 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.080 to stop the spank line. But um all, my all 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.160 my girlfriends came out to Vancouver to shoot that video 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:55.880 and they're like, oh, I love that you did. That 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.920 Was that in Franklin? No, that was in Vancouver. We 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.120 wasted a hundred thousand dollars in Vancouver. We should have 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.760 gone to Franklin. But it looks great. Thank you. How 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.880 did you pick Vancouver? I don't know. We just record 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.480 business had money at the time and they chose that right. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.400 That's when they were dropping it like it was hot. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.240 They were dropping it like it was so when you 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.920 came out in two thousand eight, rocks in my shoes, 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.600 rocks in your shoes, ross in everyone shoes, rocks in 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:27.080 my rocks in your shoes, which was essentially about feeling 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.920 sorry for yourself and not walking around with rocks in 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.840 your shoes, which is what I'm living now. Isn't that ironic? 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.840 Explain that? Well, it's kind of funny, Like, you know, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.960 I guess you got to make a choice. When it 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:41.920 hits the fan, you can get a little down or 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.400 get a little mad. Um. When there's stones in the road, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.319 there's only one thing to do. You gotta learn to 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.400 walk with rocks in your shoes. Um, maybe that should 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.200 be a Broadway Rocks in your shoes. Maybe you should 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.719 write a Broadway musical inspired on your life. Yeah, it 0:08:55.720 --> 0:09:00.040 would be very good. Did you have disappointment when it 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.280 And then you've really released Blue Sky with Keith Urban 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:07.240 seing on it, and that song is one of the 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.280 best songs I have personally ever heard in my entire life. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.520 And to me, if I was you, I would have 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.840 a little bit of frustration because you have more talent 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.520 than most people have in their pinky finger, and you 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.840 have this record label. At that time, you was Capital 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.400 and you're putting out these songs, and it's like it 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.720 didn't go to where I think it should have gone, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.240 which was number one and like broken you into country superstardom, 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.839 like I feel like you should have been. And if 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.079 I was you, I would be upset because you are 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.120 so talented. How do you deal with those feelings and 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:43.200 things not working out as planned? Well, I think you 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.320 know at the time I was just trying to keep 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.840 my head above water, just trying to not be the 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.160 girl that was mad at that time, which was a 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.840 long time ago, and now I'm I'm looking back, and 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.040 I am frustrated because it was I mean, I didn't 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.679 have a college education. I moved to you know, graduated 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:01.800 high school. I had no idea how to pay bills, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.360 and then I got this record label and so that's 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.680 all I knew was being on the label. So I 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.640 didn't have enough courage to walk away, and then they 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.400 didn't have enough courage to let me go because I 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.840 was pretty great, let's be real, you know. But and 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.280 you know, and just on my side, I was a 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.240 lot of people. So I would go in and I 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.640 would write with these writers that were all very different, 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.920 three times a day writing a song and three times yeah, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:33.400 like I was, I was no, no, I was. I 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.360 was told I had attention deficit disorder, and I got 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.520 on this pill that just made me crazy that wanted 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.199 to write all the time, and every idea was great. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:43.960 But then you look back and you're like, oh my gosh, 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.240 this song is awful. But I was just kind of 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:49.080 burnt out. But I loved everything that I brought in 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.280 because I wanted them to. So I worked a lot 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:55.240 with Hype, and basically it was I just was so 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.199 many people and they didn't know what to do with me. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.839 So it was just it was really hard and on 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.480 their and they did the best that they could with 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.360 what was given to them, with all that I was giving. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.240 So what did you give them? What kind of I 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.080 gave them a really great record with outside songs that 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.280 saw I wrote and some I didn't, and um, you know, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.199 I got a lot of incredible things out of it. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:21.880 Keith Urban sang with me on Blue Sky. Yeah. Like actually, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.920 there was a big label head that said I don't 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.800 think that you should call Keith Urban because I was like, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.520 that's when people were they were associating celebrities with trying 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.040 to get famous, and I was like, well, he's not 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.480 only a celebrity, he's amazing. I'm just gonna My mom 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.360 gave me this plaque that said trust your crazy ideas, 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.679 which can be dangerous sometimes but also worth it, worth it, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.840 And so I emailed him and he heard the song 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.120 and ten minutes later he goes, I would be honored 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.240 to sing with you on this exquisite song with those 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.800 are the words that he used, which just credits him 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.360 just for being amazing and an artist that he is. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.760 And he he's um, he does what he wants and 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.440 he believes in what is truth. And I really still 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.360 believe in that song. But and it was nominated for 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.480 UM Vocal Event of the Year as we lost to 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.520 James Taylor and Zach Brown, which I can I can 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.600 say it's fine, but I'm saying that song. I would 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.160 sing it for all of you guys, but you should 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:26.400 can Uh what what? What part says? It's going tonight 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.719 the kind of stone where the basement floods and you 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:35.400 lose the lines. Should have thought of that before, sannad 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:41.600 you boost guy anymore? Not the going with some sad 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.360 girl to the singer that's so hard. You did a 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.960 great transition. I have borderline personality disorder in the best 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.280 of ways. I love that about you. I think that's 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.760 what makes you great because you have all these personalities, 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.520 but they're all you stop. What if I just came 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.880 out with should I look at the camera? You can 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.079 look at where you want? Okay, perfect whatever. Any personality 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.160 can talk to anybody that she wants. Any personality can 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:06.920 talk to any camera that it wants We're all here 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.240 for you. Okay, But honestly, that song is one of 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.880 the best songs I have ever heard. It's so their 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.600 motion is so real, your voice is so incredible. Thank you. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.120 That was a special song. That really was. I mean, 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.480 we talked about truth and stuff. And sometimes I find 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.600 myself trying to be clever in my songwriting or just 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:29.600 trying to be Will cotton Man was at my door. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.200 I'm like, what does that mean? Like you can say anything. 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:33.959 By the way, the cotton man was at my door, 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.480 I just made up. I don't know. There's some things 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.400 that I look and I go, this is so, this 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.080 does not make any sense. Am I trying to be 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.240 one of these indie people? I just but that song 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:47.600 was like that was a truth. I'm proud of it. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.120 So it felt real. Who in your core when you 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.040 think you said, you're in therapy trying to figure it 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.000 all out right now, but when you think about and 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.199 you posted a picture too, and actually I wrote the 0:13:58.240 --> 0:13:59.960 quote down because I thought it was so good. You said, 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.840 keep your legs closing your heart open. Well, you said whenever, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.520 I have too many voices telling me who I am, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.320 which is a lot. I look this little nugget, she 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.520 knows who she is. So who is that little nugget? 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.840 Who is Emily West in your opinion? Um, well, Emily 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:19.520 Members is that girl Emily West was um is the 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.720 performer and Emily Members is usually the girl that you 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.520 should pay attention to, which everyone talks about like just 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.080 go to what the little girl wants. What you have 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:33.600 to say, um be true. Like if you don't like something, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.840 speak up. And I think in this polite world that 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.400 we live in, we're chose to just, you know, pick 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.200 your battles, which is good to pick your battles, but 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.000 I think that you know, essentially you just need to say, hey, 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.040 please stop doing that's getting on my nerves. That that 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.240 helps with so many things, like I'm not going to 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.400 do that song because I don't want little girls to 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.680 hear the F word or you know, it just bleeds 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.600 into every part of you. So I just think when 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.440 you're little, you follow your heart before someone tells you 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.280 to stop doing them. And so trust your crazy ideas 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.240 and and just be authentic, which that word is so 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.200 thrown out, and vulnerability is thrown out, and being healthy 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.480 is thrown out. Those words get on my nerves. But basically, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.640 do what you want to do and be around good 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.640 people that bring out the best in you. And um, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.720 recodependent no more. Yeah, that's a great book. It's a 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.120 great book. Who if you had to pick one genre 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.680 to belong to or one style of music to sing forever? 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.240 Would you where would you settle into? The business part 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.840 of me? Says country music? Um? What is that? What 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.400 does Emily Numbers A little girl say? Well, you know, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.120 music is genre and that's another word I don't like. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.480 I just prefer to stay out of genre. I say 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.720 that just cut beautiful music. I think that's what Chris 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.720 Stapleton does. I think that he has been given this monstrous, 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.480 incredible voice that could have been told to could you 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.720 please stop using all of that? And it probably it 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.920 was told and I was told to stop using so 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.440 much barbratto. So therefore I became the singer that doesn't sing, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.040 just the sexy talker and songs. And it because sonically, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.720 when you sing in a studio and then when you 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.200 sing out loud to a crowd, you have to use 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.560 different voices. So therefore it can do a number on 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.400 your mind of what to do. But I mean my 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:28.120 genre is like, I don't know, it's out of the box, 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.080 and it's essentially I kind of want to cut a 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.080 country music record one day, like a really beautiful, authentic 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:40.080 country record that is just saying truth. But right now 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.440 it's being Barbara Streisan and Judy Garland and a torch 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.280 singer bringing the torch singer back. And the record that 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:51.440 we're releasing now is let's talk about those songs. Okay. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:56.400 So I made this record with Daniel Tashen and he 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.200 got out of big white board and was like, tell 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.880 me what you want everyone to feel when you listen 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.400 to that. I said, I want people to have sex 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.159 to it. I want people to drive their car to it, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.800 throw dinner parties to it, drink wine and being be 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.640 alone to it because it's very It's a melancholy kind 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:18.920 of cinematic Disney dark Disney. Disney's a dark Disney and 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.159 I love Disney music Sleeping beauty. Like I still have 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.879 this this weird fairy tale Great Gardens situation in my 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.360 mind that I'm trying to hunker down with. But it's 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.399 just my fan It's like a fantasy record I've always 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.679 wanted to make um, and I think We're just not 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.840 going to overthink it. It's just a pretty record. I 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.960 like to listen to it still. Yeah, tell me about 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:42.439 the songs. What do they mean to you? Because one 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.879 of them, don't go to Paris, Loane, don't never go 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.879 to Paris when you're lonely. Perfect? I mean that what 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.760 a perfect saying I sent it. It's a It's a 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.920 sentence that my friend Rosie go go along and says 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.080 a lot to her friends because she goes to Paris 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:57.800 a lot, and I wrote it with her and Daniel, 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.440 and she just says, don't never go to pay when 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.760 you're lonely, because it's the most beautiful city on the 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:09.560 planet and you will feel like s h shit shit 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.280 if you go. And I'm like, I actually really love 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:17.840 to feel melancholy. Yeah, I do. I actually really enjoy 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.280 being alone and drinking wine and just kind of feeling 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.880 sorry for myself. What do you love about that feeling? That? 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.320 Is that what brings the great music for you? Yeah? 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.080 I mean, I just think there's something really beautiful about 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:31.959 a girl reading a book and and drinking a glass 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:36.760 of pink wine and judging lovers and being mad about it, 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.880 but also hopeful because maybe one day I'll find that 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.120 person and and I just I kind of love that 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.320 I thrive on that. But it's also it's at the 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:49.480 end of the verse. I struggled with this because it 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.880 says a lot of puns that say, jump off the Eiffele, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.160 give give the tourists an Eiffel. So it's dark Disney. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:01.800 It's this beautiful, dark Disney kind of story, and you know, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:06.119 it's drama like drama and when you okay, you also 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.199 after the country thing, I want to wrap up the 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.800 country section for a second though. Were you ever upset 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:15.399 with how it played out for you? Absolutely? What? How 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:17.000 do you deal with those feelings? Like what does it 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.760 make you feel when you see these people who literally 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:21.840 don't have the talent that you have at all? And 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.520 I know you're not in an ageist school way. You 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.960 just have this talent. It's just who you are. Well, 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.119 I mean, I think that every the thing that I 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.000 don't have, the gift that I don't have is um 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.560 back then. I have it now is applying yourself and 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.720 trusting the process and trusting your your team. And I 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.879 was really scared at that time. So I just I 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.639 just I overperformed in all the wrong places, and I 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.959 really didn't trust myself. So therefore I did a lot 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.800 of self sabotaging in in a in a way where 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.560 I just overdid it with you know, trying to be 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.280 a girl that told inappropriate jokes at radio conventions and 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.960 you know, just hollow. You know, it's just like you 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.359 just stop for a second and just you know, and 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.119 I think that inner piece has come back. But I 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.639 also feel like I'm just super hard on myself and 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.480 I'm I'm a perfectionist, and I think that's gone away 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.639 too with some help and time. But I dealt with 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.879 it really passive aggressively. When it was dropped. I was 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.720 on my way to the opera when I got dropped, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.800 and the record label pros the and the guy called 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.640 me and he goes, we're going to have to let 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.560 you go. And I go, well, let me ask you 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.359 a question. How much money do you think you spend 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.880 on me? I said, is it over a million? You think? 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.120 He goes, oh absolutely, I go, so you're saying I'm 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.919 worth over a million dollars and anything to get me 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.359 out of the set. That's kind of passive aggressive about it, 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.159 But you know, like that's how how I processed it, 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.880 and you know, we're all here for a reason, and 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:00.000 you know God's working everywhere, so I know, but it's 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.480