Speaker 1: Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown. She's
Speaker 1: only in side. She got the snoop on the on
Speaker 1: the ones to side. No one can do with clid
Speaker 1: My Carola Carola. No one can do with Clie Carol Carola. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I know music, I know people, and I know the
Speaker 1: questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper
Speaker 1: heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there
Speaker 1: could be adult content, y'all. I'm pumped up. Emily West
Speaker 1: is joining me. I have admired her forever. She is
Speaker 1: one of the best voices I've ever heard in my
Speaker 1: entire life. And I am not even joking. I'm not
Speaker 1: making that up and I'm not exaggerating. Once you hear
Speaker 1: her open her mouth and seeing you will just die.
Speaker 1: You'll fall in love. She's so magical and incredible and
Speaker 1: she can do so much with her voice her personality.
Speaker 1: She's a character. She's like Barbara streisand meets Bette Midler
Speaker 1: meets Share. She needs her own TV show. She got
Speaker 1: second on America's Got Talent. She should have gone first,
Speaker 1: but I mean she got first basically in the voice
Speaker 1: category because she lost a magician, so pretty much she
Speaker 1: has the best voice in all of America. And you
Speaker 1: will hear that. I'm so excited to welcome Emily West.
Speaker 1: And if you want to watch this, go to my
Speaker 1: website Caroline Hobby dot com and click watch and you
Speaker 1: can watch the whole episode. So here is Emily West.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you here. I'm super pumped
Speaker 1: to be in a studio. This is this is news
Speaker 1: to me, how incredible this is. I thought we were
Speaker 1: walking into an apartment, very happy. I'm happy to be here. Oh,
Speaker 1: because you thought I was inviting you to my apartment.
Speaker 1: I thought we were just going to be chilling, looking
Speaker 1: at you know, a voice m O on an iPhone,
Speaker 1: just talking. That's what. So the thing is in life,
Speaker 1: always shoot low and then you end up in a
Speaker 1: studio totally. They say, is that your expectations are zero
Speaker 1: right all the time. Yeah, but speak positively. I'm learning
Speaker 1: to do that. Tell me your philosophy on life, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm in therapy right now. I love therapy,
Speaker 1: wonderful therapy. My philosophy on life is the reason why
Speaker 1: I am in therapy, So I don't know what that
Speaker 1: means now. My philosophy on life is I just I
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, just speak truth right now is what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. Speak truth. What do you feel
Speaker 1: like your truth is? Right now? My truth is um, Like,
Speaker 1: don't comment on an Instagram that you're really not genuinely
Speaker 1: happy about. I mean, I think those little things get
Speaker 1: to everything, like because then you just if you're blurred
Speaker 1: on one thing, then you're going to do that in
Speaker 1: your your life. This is getting really deep. No, so
Speaker 1: you're saying you want to be authentic and everything you do.
Speaker 1: So if you don't like social media is such a
Speaker 1: huge part of our world. It is, and we live
Speaker 1: in such a polite, everything is great world and then
Speaker 1: you start going, but is it really all great? Is
Speaker 1: it all great? And I think there, you know the
Speaker 1: movie inside out, I just think that there's I'm a
Speaker 1: big sad ballad writer and I love sadness, but I
Speaker 1: don't want it to enter in my life. And I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really don't have any philosophy on life.
Speaker 1: I just think you need to speak truth and keep
Speaker 1: a journal and keep a lock on it so people
Speaker 1: don't find it journal about um. You know, it changes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm this, um, Sometimes I just test out my handwriting,
Speaker 1: you know, just to see how that's going. How is
Speaker 1: it going. It's going really well, I like, I like it.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes I just pretend like I'm Nora f
Speaker 1: f Ron and you know, pretend that I'm a New Yorker. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought you are totally like a New York movie star,
Speaker 1: like Judy Garland and Nelly with some share little bit share. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, just so many of those epic entertainers who
Speaker 1: are not just actress, who are not just singers or actresses,
Speaker 1: but they were the whole thing. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to describe what they are. That that middler, Barbara streithan vaudeville,
Speaker 1: and you know the thing with vaudeville and country music
Speaker 1: is that they basically tell the truth. I mean they
Speaker 1: just you know, hello a little bit, you know. And
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton is Vauville. She's just a truth teller with
Speaker 1: sparkles and tatas. Yeah, has and you know, I just
Speaker 1: think that's what vaudeville is. It's just a little bit
Speaker 1: more um hello and um. Anyway, how did you learn
Speaker 1: how to do all those voices. Oh, you know, I
Speaker 1: think from boredom and me just maybe being shy. I
Speaker 1: started off really shy as a little girl, and I
Speaker 1: did a lot of watching people. I remember I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait to be forty six. When I was five in
Speaker 1: frend of a character that was like hello me, and
Speaker 1: she did a talk show and she was, hello, well,
Speaker 1: right now we're with s. Share came on the show.
Speaker 1: It's on my instagutent shared how to share? It was
Speaker 1: she upset. Well, that was my best friend Mackenzy, and
Speaker 1: she was like she hardly had any she was just share.
Speaker 1: She hardly spoke. She was a diva. But Joanie cuts
Speaker 1: up Lists had big boobs and she was Greek and
Speaker 1: she was hello, you know. But I couldn't wait to
Speaker 1: be old when I was young. You I saw you
Speaker 1: post a picture and you're like in all these like
Speaker 1: jackets and pearls and pearl areas. You're like when I
Speaker 1: was five, I was going on fifty six. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: in Wait, I couldn't watch fifty because they just they
Speaker 1: knew what they wanted, and I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: I got to hide in myself and that little shy
Speaker 1: in it in my shy girl nous. And then I
Speaker 1: just think I did a lot of observing with people.
Speaker 1: And then I watched Oprah one day and there was
Speaker 1: a girl on their doing an impersonation of a baby's
Speaker 1: crying of a baby crying, So then I started doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I could be famous at that. She
Speaker 1: got famous from crying like a baby and then doing
Speaker 1: a chicken noise, which I couldn't do. But then also
Speaker 1: with Patsy Klein, I was in a pageant because my
Speaker 1: sister was in a pageant and I was super jealous
Speaker 1: of my sister, and I was eight years old. We
Speaker 1: were in Muscotine, Iowa, at the holiday inn and my
Speaker 1: mom said, what are you gonna do for your talent?
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm gonna sing Patsy Cline. She had
Speaker 1: no idea that I could sing um, but I just
Speaker 1: basically imitated Patsy Klein for like five years and then
Speaker 1: exactly how she sang yeah, and I just started imitating voices.
Speaker 1: So and I still imitate voices, but now I'm kind
Speaker 1: of trying to figure out who I am, which is
Speaker 1: why I'm in therapy, which is the best place to
Speaker 1: be trying to figure out where to go right, you know,
Speaker 1: or just make it a gift that maybe you just
Speaker 1: you're unboxable and your your genre lists and make that
Speaker 1: your gift actually are genre lists. I think you need
Speaker 1: a TV show. But speaking of genres, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the beginning. Because you started your whole career in country music,
Speaker 1: which to me you are you are country, but you
Speaker 1: are so much more than country too. So how did
Speaker 1: you pick country music as the genre. Well, that's a
Speaker 1: great question, and I remember I just loved Faith Hill,
Speaker 1: you know, when that first record came out, Done Broadway
Speaker 1: and all that too. I've never seen one Broadway. I've
Speaker 1: only seen one Broadway in my life, and I've only
Speaker 1: watched three music musicals, We Girls, Sounded Music, and Mary Poppins.
Speaker 1: But um, I just uh, I think country music at
Speaker 1: the time, it was just I loved it. It was
Speaker 1: nineties country, and I just loved good music. And then
Speaker 1: I moved here and then I started Then they started
Speaker 1: thinking about tractors and jeans and and I was trying
Speaker 1: to morph into that. But then I was like that
Speaker 1: was going against your soul. Yeah, because you came out
Speaker 1: rocks in two tho I love that video. It was
Speaker 1: very positive. Stephen Schefferd directed that video and it was
Speaker 1: I did wear spanks where it kind of cut me off.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of money on us trying
Speaker 1: to stop the spank line. But um all, my all
Speaker 1: my girlfriends came out to Vancouver to shoot that video
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, I love that you did. That
Speaker 1: Was that in Franklin? No, that was in Vancouver. We
Speaker 1: wasted a hundred thousand dollars in Vancouver. We should have
Speaker 1: gone to Franklin. But it looks great. Thank you. How
Speaker 1: did you pick Vancouver? I don't know. We just record
Speaker 1: business had money at the time and they chose that right.
Speaker 1: That's when they were dropping it like it was hot.
Speaker 1: They were dropping it like it was so when you
Speaker 1: came out in two thousand eight, rocks in my shoes,
Speaker 1: rocks in your shoes, ross in everyone shoes, rocks in
Speaker 1: my rocks in your shoes, which was essentially about feeling
Speaker 1: sorry for yourself and not walking around with rocks in
Speaker 1: your shoes, which is what I'm living now. Isn't that ironic?
Speaker 1: Explain that? Well, it's kind of funny, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess you got to make a choice. When it
Speaker 1: hits the fan, you can get a little down or
Speaker 1: get a little mad. Um. When there's stones in the road,
Speaker 1: there's only one thing to do. You gotta learn to
Speaker 1: walk with rocks in your shoes. Um, maybe that should
Speaker 1: be a Broadway Rocks in your shoes. Maybe you should
Speaker 1: write a Broadway musical inspired on your life. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be very good. Did you have disappointment when it
Speaker 1: And then you've really released Blue Sky with Keith Urban
Speaker 1: seing on it, and that song is one of the
Speaker 1: best songs I have personally ever heard in my entire life.
Speaker 1: And to me, if I was you, I would have
Speaker 1: a little bit of frustration because you have more talent
Speaker 1: than most people have in their pinky finger, and you
Speaker 1: have this record label. At that time, you was Capital
Speaker 1: and you're putting out these songs, and it's like it
Speaker 1: didn't go to where I think it should have gone,
Speaker 1: which was number one and like broken you into country superstardom,
Speaker 1: like I feel like you should have been. And if
Speaker 1: I was you, I would be upset because you are
Speaker 1: so talented. How do you deal with those feelings and
Speaker 1: things not working out as planned? Well, I think you
Speaker 1: know at the time I was just trying to keep
Speaker 1: my head above water, just trying to not be the
Speaker 1: girl that was mad at that time, which was a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and now I'm I'm looking back, and
Speaker 1: I am frustrated because it was I mean, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a college education. I moved to you know, graduated
Speaker 1: high school. I had no idea how to pay bills,
Speaker 1: and then I got this record label and so that's
Speaker 1: all I knew was being on the label. So I
Speaker 1: didn't have enough courage to walk away, and then they
Speaker 1: didn't have enough courage to let me go because I
Speaker 1: was pretty great, let's be real, you know. But and
Speaker 1: you know, and just on my side, I was a
Speaker 1: lot of people. So I would go in and I
Speaker 1: would write with these writers that were all very different,
Speaker 1: three times a day writing a song and three times yeah,
Speaker 1: like I was, I was no, no, I was. I
Speaker 1: was told I had attention deficit disorder, and I got
Speaker 1: on this pill that just made me crazy that wanted
Speaker 1: to write all the time, and every idea was great.
Speaker 1: But then you look back and you're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: this song is awful. But I was just kind of
Speaker 1: burnt out. But I loved everything that I brought in
Speaker 1: because I wanted them to. So I worked a lot
Speaker 1: with Hype, and basically it was I just was so
Speaker 1: many people and they didn't know what to do with me.
Speaker 1: So it was just it was really hard and on
Speaker 1: their and they did the best that they could with
Speaker 1: what was given to them, with all that I was giving.
Speaker 1: So what did you give them? What kind of I
Speaker 1: gave them a really great record with outside songs that
Speaker 1: saw I wrote and some I didn't, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of incredible things out of it.
Speaker 1: Keith Urban sang with me on Blue Sky. Yeah. Like actually,
Speaker 1: there was a big label head that said I don't
Speaker 1: think that you should call Keith Urban because I was like,
Speaker 1: that's when people were they were associating celebrities with trying
Speaker 1: to get famous, and I was like, well, he's not
Speaker 1: only a celebrity, he's amazing. I'm just gonna My mom
Speaker 1: gave me this plaque that said trust your crazy ideas,
Speaker 1: which can be dangerous sometimes but also worth it, worth it,
Speaker 1: And so I emailed him and he heard the song
Speaker 1: and ten minutes later he goes, I would be honored
Speaker 1: to sing with you on this exquisite song with those
Speaker 1: are the words that he used, which just credits him
Speaker 1: just for being amazing and an artist that he is.
Speaker 1: And he he's um, he does what he wants and
Speaker 1: he believes in what is truth. And I really still
Speaker 1: believe in that song. But and it was nominated for
Speaker 1: UM Vocal Event of the Year as we lost to
Speaker 1: James Taylor and Zach Brown, which I can I can
Speaker 1: say it's fine, but I'm saying that song. I would
Speaker 1: sing it for all of you guys, but you should
Speaker 1: can Uh what what? What part says? It's going tonight
Speaker 1: the kind of stone where the basement floods and you
Speaker 1: lose the lines. Should have thought of that before, sannad
Speaker 1: you boost guy anymore? Not the going with some sad
Speaker 1: girl to the singer that's so hard. You did a
Speaker 1: great transition. I have borderline personality disorder in the best
Speaker 1: of ways. I love that about you. I think that's
Speaker 1: what makes you great because you have all these personalities,
Speaker 1: but they're all you stop. What if I just came
Speaker 1: out with should I look at the camera? You can
Speaker 1: look at where you want? Okay, perfect whatever. Any personality
Speaker 1: can talk to anybody that she wants. Any personality can
Speaker 1: talk to any camera that it wants We're all here
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, But honestly, that song is one of
Speaker 1: the best songs I have ever heard. It's so their
Speaker 1: motion is so real, your voice is so incredible. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That was a special song. That really was. I mean,
Speaker 1: we talked about truth and stuff. And sometimes I find
Speaker 1: myself trying to be clever in my songwriting or just
Speaker 1: trying to be Will cotton Man was at my door.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what does that mean? Like you can say anything.
Speaker 1: By the way, the cotton man was at my door,
Speaker 1: I just made up. I don't know. There's some things
Speaker 1: that I look and I go, this is so, this
Speaker 1: does not make any sense. Am I trying to be
Speaker 1: one of these indie people? I just but that song
Speaker 1: was like that was a truth. I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1: So it felt real. Who in your core when you
Speaker 1: think you said, you're in therapy trying to figure it
Speaker 1: all out right now, but when you think about and
Speaker 1: you posted a picture too, and actually I wrote the
Speaker 1: quote down because I thought it was so good. You said,
Speaker 1: keep your legs closing your heart open. Well, you said whenever,
Speaker 1: I have too many voices telling me who I am,
Speaker 1: which is a lot. I look this little nugget, she
Speaker 1: knows who she is. So who is that little nugget?
Speaker 1: Who is Emily West in your opinion? Um, well, Emily
Speaker 1: Members is that girl Emily West was um is the
Speaker 1: performer and Emily Members is usually the girl that you
Speaker 1: should pay attention to, which everyone talks about like just
Speaker 1: go to what the little girl wants. What you have
Speaker 1: to say, um be true. Like if you don't like something,
Speaker 1: speak up. And I think in this polite world that
Speaker 1: we live in, we're chose to just, you know, pick
Speaker 1: your battles, which is good to pick your battles, but
Speaker 1: I think that you know, essentially you just need to say, hey,
Speaker 1: please stop doing that's getting on my nerves. That that
Speaker 1: helps with so many things, like I'm not going to
Speaker 1: do that song because I don't want little girls to
Speaker 1: hear the F word or you know, it just bleeds
Speaker 1: into every part of you. So I just think when
Speaker 1: you're little, you follow your heart before someone tells you
Speaker 1: to stop doing them. And so trust your crazy ideas
Speaker 1: and and just be authentic, which that word is so
Speaker 1: thrown out, and vulnerability is thrown out, and being healthy
Speaker 1: is thrown out. Those words get on my nerves. But basically,
Speaker 1: do what you want to do and be around good
Speaker 1: people that bring out the best in you. And um,
Speaker 1: recodependent no more. Yeah, that's a great book. It's a
Speaker 1: great book. Who if you had to pick one genre
Speaker 1: to belong to or one style of music to sing forever?
Speaker 1: Would you where would you settle into? The business part
Speaker 1: of me? Says country music? Um? What is that? What
Speaker 1: does Emily Numbers A little girl say? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: music is genre and that's another word I don't like.
Speaker 1: I just prefer to stay out of genre. I say
Speaker 1: that just cut beautiful music. I think that's what Chris
Speaker 1: Stapleton does. I think that he has been given this monstrous,
Speaker 1: incredible voice that could have been told to could you
Speaker 1: please stop using all of that? And it probably it
Speaker 1: was told and I was told to stop using so
Speaker 1: much barbratto. So therefore I became the singer that doesn't sing,
Speaker 1: just the sexy talker and songs. And it because sonically,
Speaker 1: when you sing in a studio and then when you
Speaker 1: sing out loud to a crowd, you have to use
Speaker 1: different voices. So therefore it can do a number on
Speaker 1: your mind of what to do. But I mean my
Speaker 1: genre is like, I don't know, it's out of the box,
Speaker 1: and it's essentially I kind of want to cut a
Speaker 1: country music record one day, like a really beautiful, authentic
Speaker 1: country record that is just saying truth. But right now
Speaker 1: it's being Barbara Streisan and Judy Garland and a torch
Speaker 1: singer bringing the torch singer back. And the record that
Speaker 1: we're releasing now is let's talk about those songs. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I made this record with Daniel Tashen and he
Speaker 1: got out of big white board and was like, tell
Speaker 1: me what you want everyone to feel when you listen
Speaker 1: to that. I said, I want people to have sex
Speaker 1: to it. I want people to drive their car to it,
Speaker 1: throw dinner parties to it, drink wine and being be
Speaker 1: alone to it because it's very It's a melancholy kind
Speaker 1: of cinematic Disney dark Disney. Disney's a dark Disney and
Speaker 1: I love Disney music Sleeping beauty. Like I still have
Speaker 1: this this weird fairy tale Great Gardens situation in my
Speaker 1: mind that I'm trying to hunker down with. But it's
Speaker 1: just my fan It's like a fantasy record I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to make um, and I think We're just not
Speaker 1: going to overthink it. It's just a pretty record. I
Speaker 1: like to listen to it still. Yeah, tell me about
Speaker 1: the songs. What do they mean to you? Because one
Speaker 1: of them, don't go to Paris, Loane, don't never go
Speaker 1: to Paris when you're lonely. Perfect? I mean that what
Speaker 1: a perfect saying I sent it. It's a It's a
Speaker 1: sentence that my friend Rosie go go along and says
Speaker 1: a lot to her friends because she goes to Paris
Speaker 1: a lot, and I wrote it with her and Daniel,
Speaker 1: and she just says, don't never go to pay when
Speaker 1: you're lonely, because it's the most beautiful city on the
Speaker 1: planet and you will feel like s h shit shit
Speaker 1: if you go. And I'm like, I actually really love
Speaker 1: to feel melancholy. Yeah, I do. I actually really enjoy
Speaker 1: being alone and drinking wine and just kind of feeling
Speaker 1: sorry for myself. What do you love about that feeling? That?
Speaker 1: Is that what brings the great music for you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think there's something really beautiful about
Speaker 1: a girl reading a book and and drinking a glass
Speaker 1: of pink wine and judging lovers and being mad about it,
Speaker 1: but also hopeful because maybe one day I'll find that
Speaker 1: person and and I just I kind of love that
Speaker 1: I thrive on that. But it's also it's at the
Speaker 1: end of the verse. I struggled with this because it
Speaker 1: says a lot of puns that say, jump off the Eiffele,
Speaker 1: give give the tourists an Eiffel. So it's dark Disney.
Speaker 1: It's this beautiful, dark Disney kind of story, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's drama like drama and when you okay, you also
Speaker 1: after the country thing, I want to wrap up the
Speaker 1: country section for a second though. Were you ever upset
Speaker 1: with how it played out for you? Absolutely? What? How
Speaker 1: do you deal with those feelings? Like what does it
Speaker 1: make you feel when you see these people who literally
Speaker 1: don't have the talent that you have at all? And
Speaker 1: I know you're not in an ageist school way. You
Speaker 1: just have this talent. It's just who you are. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that every the thing that I
Speaker 1: don't have, the gift that I don't have is um
Speaker 1: back then. I have it now is applying yourself and
Speaker 1: trusting the process and trusting your your team. And I
Speaker 1: was really scared at that time. So I just I
Speaker 1: just I overperformed in all the wrong places, and I
Speaker 1: really didn't trust myself. So therefore I did a lot
Speaker 1: of self sabotaging in in a in a way where
Speaker 1: I just overdid it with you know, trying to be
Speaker 1: a girl that told inappropriate jokes at radio conventions and
Speaker 1: you know, just hollow. You know, it's just like you
Speaker 1: just stop for a second and just you know, and
Speaker 1: I think that inner piece has come back. But I
Speaker 1: also feel like I'm just super hard on myself and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a perfectionist, and I think that's gone away
Speaker 1: too with some help and time. But I dealt with
Speaker 1: it really passive aggressively. When it was dropped. I was
Speaker 1: on my way to the opera when I got dropped,
Speaker 1: and the record label pros the and the guy called
Speaker 1: me and he goes, we're going to have to let
Speaker 1: you go. And I go, well, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. How much money do you think you spend
Speaker 1: on me? I said, is it over a million? You think?
Speaker 1: He goes, oh absolutely, I go, so you're saying I'm
Speaker 1: worth over a million dollars and anything to get me
Speaker 1: out of the set. That's kind of passive aggressive about it,
Speaker 1: But you know, like that's how how I processed it,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're all here for a reason, and
Speaker 1: you know God's working everywhere, so I know, but it's
Speaker 1: that's the part. And I believe that everything, like you said,
Speaker 1: happens for a reason to get you to the experiences
Speaker 1: that you need to experience. So then finally one day
Speaker 1: it all makes perfect sense. But it's to me. I
Speaker 1: get disappointed when I feel like beautiful works of art
Speaker 1: and really talented people aren't. I have you said to
Speaker 1: set your expectations at zero, but I accidentally get expectations
Speaker 1: for art that I love and I wanted to go
Speaker 1: to a place in my mind that I think it
Speaker 1: deserves to go, and when it doesn't, it's if I
Speaker 1: find it frustrating. Well, and I'm not really good with
Speaker 1: the business aspect of that, like and that's where you
Speaker 1: know I should. I'm really good. Especially in the world
Speaker 1: of social media, we're really going there, by the way,
Speaker 1: like I think everyone is trying to be famous. I
Speaker 1: did a show recently at Third and Lends Late, and
Speaker 1: I was just a lot of my songs are valid,
Speaker 1: and we're giving it the space that it deserves instead
Speaker 1: of just be like look at me, I'm good. Look
Speaker 1: I'm good. It's like there's some space in it and
Speaker 1: we're respecting that. Ace and a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the audience were just, you know, taking selfie. We live
Speaker 1: in a selfie. It wasn't my crowd, but it was
Speaker 1: kind of Oh man, everyone wants to be famous, so
Speaker 1: it's hard to, um, really be an artist and just go, okay,
Speaker 1: well this is what's happening. Um does that make any sense? Well,
Speaker 1: it's just that people are almost disconnected from experiencing things
Speaker 1: because they're all doing it to the lens of the phone. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: if you experience anything great, you're like, I gotta get
Speaker 1: my phone out. You can you can't just trust the moment.
Speaker 1: And I'm learning to do that just because that's a
Speaker 1: memory I'm going to hold in my heart forever. Like
Speaker 1: you're not going to look at your instrument going but
Speaker 1: this is the time where I lost my mind because
Speaker 1: I'm not because I was too busy getting a filter
Speaker 1: on it. I didn't feel the beautiful moment. I hear you,
Speaker 1: you know, and that It's totally where we are these days.
Speaker 1: So we're all just trying to figure out where the
Speaker 1: world is going right now. And I'm super hard on
Speaker 1: it um the world. Oh, I think anything that you
Speaker 1: were ship breaks your heart. UM. That is not that
Speaker 1: doesn't have UM, it doesn't have any boundaries to it.
Speaker 1: I think you can make some something your slave and
Speaker 1: if it if it does, it's not out of your
Speaker 1: ego gets in the way. Yeah, it breaks your heart
Speaker 1: if you're not healthy. You posted something to where you
Speaker 1: said you love um new chapters and change and like
Speaker 1: you like it when you see a tree that's been
Speaker 1: clipped because it lets you know that new growth is coming.
Speaker 1: What explained that thought to me? That's called pruning. Um.
Speaker 1: It's hard to change as a human, and it's hard
Speaker 1: to look at your past and go where am I
Speaker 1: in this? What have I done to make this situation shitty?
Speaker 1: And what can I change to make it not shitty anymore?
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm asking myself now. And it's called pruning.
Speaker 1: And I anytime I pass a tree that's been cut,
Speaker 1: it's super ugly and it's just this blunt looks like this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, I don't want to cut
Speaker 1: my hair because I want my hair to be super long.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to get it cut, though, but
Speaker 1: it just it's going to get prettier if you do.
Speaker 1: And the tree just kind of looks like that, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, these little things start growing
Speaker 1: and then all the rest start becoming beautiful and it's changed.
Speaker 1: And it's really hard to to to do that if
Speaker 1: you're getting off a habit that you used to you know,
Speaker 1: I used to help you, or coping coping mechanisms are
Speaker 1: finding new ones that I have I don't even know
Speaker 1: I was doing. Yeah, and it's hard to retrain and
Speaker 1: wire your brain. It's really hard, and and just have
Speaker 1: patience and kindness with yourself in that process. So that's
Speaker 1: why I post that. And then what a beautiful question.
Speaker 1: Thank you I forgot that I did that. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I just thought that was great because I'm all about
Speaker 1: evolving all the time, especially and I told you earlier
Speaker 1: before we started this interview, people who have talent like
Speaker 1: you have, who have been through the Ringer yet still
Speaker 1: are fighting for that talent because it is your work
Speaker 1: on this earth, like this is your calling, is your
Speaker 1: this is why you're here. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: awesome when you finally got a little bit of the
Speaker 1: world recognition that you need going on America's got talent.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want you to live on a show
Speaker 1: like that. For me, I feel like you need your
Speaker 1: own TV show where you just live and you sing
Speaker 1: these songs. Tell me about that? Was that one of
Speaker 1: the greatest moments, where like, finally I'm getting the stage
Speaker 1: that I because you need to be on a stage. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I think that God prepped me for
Speaker 1: that whole moment, because honestly, I was not in a
Speaker 1: and I hate the word healthy, but I wasn't in
Speaker 1: a good state of mind when that was going on.
Speaker 1: What where? What was your state of mind? It was? Well,
Speaker 1: when I went went to New York, I just had
Speaker 1: to get away from my family. You moved away away
Speaker 1: from I had to get away from Nashville. And I
Speaker 1: packed up. I never went back. I got it. I
Speaker 1: just went on a trip to New York. I went
Speaker 1: on a trip. I got an opportunity to sing for
Speaker 1: the Beatles fifty anniversary at the Apollo Theater and um
Speaker 1: Harlem and and I just packed a bigger bag than
Speaker 1: I should have packed. And I never went back. I
Speaker 1: got a job the next day, and I just started
Speaker 1: working at a boutique called Goldie Mac and They hated
Speaker 1: me there because I don't know how to work. I
Speaker 1: can't do anything because you're a singer. I just like,
Speaker 1: I might have to get a job here soon. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, I am, I'm awful. Don't hire me, like,
Speaker 1: don't um. But yeah, so I just tried to survive.
Speaker 1: I sold my car. My parents were like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? And they were worried about me. I am
Speaker 1: pretty surprised that I didn't get mugged or killed, honestly,
Speaker 1: because I was like, when you're alone and life is
Speaker 1: making you lonely, you can always feel like I'm the
Speaker 1: girl that you're hat in the air, Hello New York.
Speaker 1: Did you feel alive? There was a freedom moment. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My friend Alice was like, in order to be a
Speaker 1: New Yorker, you must act like a New Yorker otherwise
Speaker 1: you will get attacked. So did Yeah, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I could do this. And
Speaker 1: I pretended to be a New Yorker. Um, you're almost
Speaker 1: like living in a movie. Huh. Yes, but there's no
Speaker 1: camera not yet, um yeah, not yet. I live my
Speaker 1: I live all my life like the cameras around me.
Speaker 1: But that's the sad thing. Um, you're prepping. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you get to New York? Did you audition for America's
Speaker 1: Got Talent? How did that happen? I went to New
Speaker 1: York essentially to just get away from everyone, to figure
Speaker 1: it to be Bette Midler and be in a movie
Speaker 1: that no cameras were watching. And then I was so
Speaker 1: I was desperate, and I posted this really weird Facebook
Speaker 1: post and so many beautiful people I think I reached out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I had like so many comments going Emily, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. And through that Facebook post, um, all these
Speaker 1: beautiful angels connected me to lead to Nay, who was
Speaker 1: doing A and R for America's Got Talent. And I
Speaker 1: didn't like reality shows. I thought they could edit you
Speaker 1: to make you look like an idiot. I already had
Speaker 1: a record label that dropped me. I was in my thirties.
Speaker 1: I was like, they're gonna make me look like a
Speaker 1: complete loser. I'll do it, So I'll do it. I
Speaker 1: don't trust so I just trusted it. I trusted it,
Speaker 1: and I was desperate and I needed an opportunity, and
Speaker 1: I was like okay. So then I moved back and
Speaker 1: I moved back in with my parents, and then they
Speaker 1: kept flying me back, and they taped every vulnerable thing
Speaker 1: that they could, and I was some of the ones.
Speaker 1: They caught me living with my parents, and me putting
Speaker 1: on red lipstick in my mom's bathroom, and me driving
Speaker 1: my dad's car, and me asking the guy at the
Speaker 1: gas station can I borrowed twenty dollars because I had
Speaker 1: no money? And it was like in a really like
Speaker 1: weird time in my life. But that's what the dreamer does.
Speaker 1: That is what the dreamer does. What the dreamer does
Speaker 1: never gives up on the dream. So you get on
Speaker 1: the show and you're singing songs like chandelier is broke.
Speaker 1: By the way, I was completely broke singing. I looked rich.
Speaker 1: But you had this one dress that was as big
Speaker 1: as a room. You can have it, like, probably a
Speaker 1: whole village of people could have lived under that dress.
Speaker 1: It was in other ways. I'm just kidding. You know me,
Speaker 1: Your dreams freaking love you. So you're standing and you're
Speaker 1: standing on this huge stage. Howard sterns your boyfriend at
Speaker 1: this point because he loves you, right, yeah he does,
Speaker 1: And y'all have a connection. What is that connection? Well,
Speaker 1: it just he he liked me a lot. Would you
Speaker 1: date Howard's turn because he's married and um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the validation because that's an addiction of mine
Speaker 1: is praise. And I love you because you're praising me
Speaker 1: a lot right now. But you but it's because your talent.
Speaker 1: It's I don't even think it's you needing an addiction
Speaker 1: of praise. I think it's just that you have this
Speaker 1: talent that needs to be heard and like needs to
Speaker 1: be recognized because it's so good. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: it is. It's like, not even you, it's like this
Speaker 1: gift from God that you have been given. Which do
Speaker 1: you believe in callings? I actually really do. I think
Speaker 1: I've just learned this like it is a responsibility when
Speaker 1: you have been given it a gift like and people
Speaker 1: that have helped you with your gift and the you know,
Speaker 1: people you asking me to be here like is a gift,
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like it's a gift that
Speaker 1: you're here, Daniel cash In wanting to make a record
Speaker 1: on me and lead an Ay and Darryl Brown and
Speaker 1: reaching all the it's all aligned. And I do believe
Speaker 1: that God isn't some like whispering you know that not
Speaker 1: East Nashville bearded white Man. That's you know, cartooned up
Speaker 1: in the sky. It's people, you know, and uh, you
Speaker 1: are when you're given a gift and you're given the
Speaker 1: people and the stars aligned, you should have you should
Speaker 1: follow that and there's an incredible responsibility. But if you
Speaker 1: put your ego to it, that's when things get bad
Speaker 1: and it and um, that's when you start overthinking and
Speaker 1: getting in your head and it becomes too much yours,
Speaker 1: where you get controlled and it's just not good. But
Speaker 1: if you're just remaining grateful and appreciative, I really do
Speaker 1: feel like you have the best time. It's hard to
Speaker 1: do that. It's hard to learn sometimes, right it is.
Speaker 1: And also like just fight for what you want, you know,
Speaker 1: that's it's just about communicating and saying the truth. Like
Speaker 1: the little nut, the Emily Number's nut. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did America's got talent validate you? Did it give you
Speaker 1: a sense of validation and also put you in a
Speaker 1: light where you can sing what you want to sing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it, um, it changed my view of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. You know, you can
Speaker 1: take a song and make it yours. You make a
Speaker 1: cover song yours. They did want me to do it.
Speaker 1: Justin Beaver song, Biver Beaver, justin Weiever, that's my new name,
Speaker 1: um the female justin Bieber. Um. I didn't connect with it,
Speaker 1: So therefore you say no because no were you confident?
Speaker 1: And I said no? And then what you do? Said? Um,
Speaker 1: I I didn't actually like the Chandelier song when I
Speaker 1: first listened to it. Can you believe that that? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean, I I had a problem with the counting
Speaker 1: and the pop genre. I was just really I was
Speaker 1: a negative but I was in a negative place. But
Speaker 1: I got my niece in the car. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: hate pop counting song. Why didn't Nodre? Why didn't Toldrey?
Speaker 1: But then I broke down the lyric and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is actually my life and see it. Wow? And
Speaker 1: you beautiful killed that song every performance you did. I
Speaker 1: mean I watched the whole season. I was like, holy cow,
Speaker 1: this is where you belong on a stage full of
Speaker 1: tons of people in beautiful ballgrown singing those songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was fun. It really was fun. It was so fun.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, is that kind of what your
Speaker 1: new EP is like? Those songs is dramatic? Songs. Yeah
Speaker 1: it is, but then it's also um oh, like everything
Speaker 1: I love about music in kind of a cinematic sense,
Speaker 1: it doesn't I'm not really singing with that Hamburger voice
Speaker 1: that I call it Hamburger voice because there's a tendency
Speaker 1: when you hit those rich hive notes you can go
Speaker 1: a little to vaudeville. This is me just kind of
Speaker 1: saying things in a beautiful way with beautiful orchestra backing me,
Speaker 1: a k A keyboard. Let's um here, let's hear your
Speaker 1: first single off the new album. I would love to
Speaker 1: talk to me a little about this song. Let's play
Speaker 1: a little bit symphonies. Um wrote this with Daniel Passion
Speaker 1: and Rosie go On and we just I'm a sucker
Speaker 1: for great melodies telling me horrible things and truth. And
Speaker 1: the video I just spit in the video is super
Speaker 1: sad and beautiful and funny. What's the video about? Um,
Speaker 1: it's my life. It's me waking up and then me
Speaker 1: pouring coffee, and then me taking a bath and then
Speaker 1: me working on my You should I hope we do?
Speaker 1: My arialis says Helloa in the video. If you look
Speaker 1: close and then I go out like Alice in wonderland,
Speaker 1: and then I shut my door, and then the chorus
Speaker 1: happens in the night, the lights go down, and I
Speaker 1: escape into this fantasy of how I think things are,
Speaker 1: and how what's the fantasy fantasy looks where I'm just
Speaker 1: gorgeous in my robe singing. But then it's then it
Speaker 1: goes back to being reality again, and then the other
Speaker 1: verse happens, and it's just life. It's a it's a life.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for your show to exist all the time.
Speaker 1: Just you well, come on and Mike are and we'll
Speaker 1: do some selfist and follow me on Instagram. I think
Speaker 1: it's an entertainment. Okay, So here we go, symphonies, Let's
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Speaker 1: I've been dragon my feet, I've been drinking crushing chition
Speaker 1: from kidding enough. I've been around. Like Kiddle said, maybe
Speaker 1: I lead my shud down, but some good sodish. When
Speaker 1: did you say maybe? She I'm not so what ah
Speaker 1: Emily is that gonna air where we're just listening to it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that felt like a and our time. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: just know how to really sit there and listen, just
Speaker 1: listen to it. But that is a great song. Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's your sweet spot. Yeah, it's just I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a sweet little it's a sweet little song. It's more
Speaker 1: than a sweet little song. It's a Barbera Streisand song.
Speaker 1: One day you're going to do it with her, but
Speaker 1: you already do it it with Cyndey Lauper. I did.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she's like your girl, right, she is
Speaker 1: a real truth teller. She said, Um okay. So I
Speaker 1: went to a Cyndy Lauper concert when she was in Nashville,
Speaker 1: And it was before I moved to New York, and
Speaker 1: I was really making some some choices be our friends.
Speaker 1: Right before we were friends. No, I was on Celebrity Apprentice.
Speaker 1: Remember when are the President of the United States went
Speaker 1: off on my skin? What did he say on your skin? Oh?
Speaker 1: My goodness. He just was like, she needs to we
Speaker 1: need to do some abbrushing on her. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: like that. I had cysteric acne when I was young.
Speaker 1: I grew my personality was it? What was he like?
Speaker 1: I didn't meet him, but I called his son Jr.
Speaker 1: The whole time, and um, anyways, that's where we became friends.
Speaker 1: And she said, um in anyway, So I went to
Speaker 1: her concert and she was like, I said, Cindy in
Speaker 1: the middle of making some tough choices right now, and
Speaker 1: I need you to give me some advice. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I said that to her, but I felt
Speaker 1: brave enough to say, she goes, kid, you don't need
Speaker 1: you don't need to get scared. All you gotta do
Speaker 1: is take some spirit dancing classes. Don't be afraid moving
Speaker 1: on what the spirit dancing? Just just take some spirited
Speaker 1: you'll and you'll you'll be free enough to just get
Speaker 1: out of your head. Like that's what she was saying.
Speaker 1: She's saying, get out of your head and left the talent.
Speaker 1: Let's just do. You're saying don't worry about just sing
Speaker 1: and don't worry about it, which I thought was great advice.
Speaker 1: Did you apply? I wish that that that was in proverbs.
Speaker 1: Just take some spirit dancing classes. Thou shalt take spirit truly,
Speaker 1: get out of your own way, get out of your
Speaker 1: own head, you know, make music and let it go
Speaker 1: where it's supposed to. That's pretty amazing. Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: gonna give us a little bit of some Emily West.
Speaker 1: Whatever comes out acapella, it can be some of your
Speaker 1: alter egos. We need a little stand up Emily West.
Speaker 1: But before we do that, can you leave some light.
Speaker 1: I like to end my interviews like, leave some light,
Speaker 1: leave some inspiration of how you've been inspired or how
Speaker 1: you want to inspire other people. Um, how dold, this
Speaker 1: is so good. Let's read my journal interce with my
Speaker 1: good handwriting. Um, how to be Um. You know, Daniel
Speaker 1: Fashion really was um such a light in making this
Speaker 1: this record, and he just, um, I think in the
Speaker 1: we can all have as as artists. We all have
Speaker 1: a tendency to just be over proud and perfectionists. And
Speaker 1: he just he didn't overthink it, like he just he
Speaker 1: let me fly and and he just said sing and
Speaker 1: then he took the vocal. I didn't have to sing
Speaker 1: it over and over and it was just freeing. He
Speaker 1: took the real vocal because sometimes in the first take.
Speaker 1: He took the all those our first takes, and you
Speaker 1: know that. I think there's some power in just trusting
Speaker 1: the first take, and and that just trust yourself and
Speaker 1: stop and get take some spirit dancing classes. I think
Speaker 1: that's light enough. I love that. I love that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: can you take Can you maybe have some spirit dancing
Speaker 1: exhibits coming out of you now? Like? I don't, honestly
Speaker 1: I know it is my answer. I don't really feel
Speaker 1: it right now. I don't. I'm not, I'm shy. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I've said enough. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Don't you love how I said no
Speaker 1: and then I change? I did? I like because you
Speaker 1: know and if you want to say no, you can
Speaker 1: say no. Girl. Um, well, part of me really does.
Speaker 1: But the personality disordering me is coming out. So okay,
Speaker 1: well let's take it to the stage and then see
Speaker 1: what happens. Okay, sounds good. Okay, so I'm super pumped
Speaker 1: me too, because now you're just going to give us
Speaker 1: the gift of Emily West. Whatever you want to sing
Speaker 1: say at all the stage is yours. Okay, Okay, okay, right,
Speaker 1: I'm on the Caroline Show. I don't know what I'm singing,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try my best to show you that
Speaker 1: I'm talented because of all the things that we talked
Speaker 1: about sitting there on the blue couch on the Caroline Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Okay, from my first number, I
Speaker 1: will sing you a song that is very depressing. Sometimes
Speaker 1: he does it, he don't even know. That's when he
Speaker 1: catches me off guard. He pulls his jacket on and
Speaker 1: he says, we've gotta go. I fall and fall and
Speaker 1: fallen hard, comes home with sunburns on his shoulders. I
Speaker 1: love the way he most the art. What will he
Speaker 1: be like when he's older? Who? I fall and fall
Speaker 1: and fallen? A he brings me, violates and fidens. He
Speaker 1: started from someone else's yarn. He smiles at me, and
Speaker 1: you know it kind of cute. He is always breaking
Speaker 1: my heart. I'm in a kitchen, lonely, clean and up
Speaker 1: the place. He's a drinking and in a bar. Oh,
Speaker 1: my friends asked me, I got these bruises on my face.
Speaker 1: I say it's from fall, fallen fallen hard? Who from
Speaker 1: fall and fall and fall and hard? From full, full
Speaker 1: and full and hard? Wow? How about Emily West? You
Speaker 1: are freaking a talent show. Thank you. We're the greatest
Speaker 1: talents ever. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for
Speaker 1: having car I know you love that interview with Emily
Speaker 1: West because she is so talented. She's a new EP
Speaker 1: coming out and a new single, Symphonies. It's so good.
Speaker 1: Her voice is classic. She's just in a league of
Speaker 1: her own. Next week, I have Luke Luton joining me.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best producers in Nashville. He's produced
Speaker 1: Brad Paisley. He just released his new album. He talks
Speaker 1: all about this album and there are some crazy, crazy
Speaker 1: duets that are happening on this album, some crazy songs
Speaker 1: that happened that were formed, one having to do with
Speaker 1: Johnny Cash telling you it is so interesting. Luke is
Speaker 1: so talented. He's had such a life and worked with
Speaker 1: so many incredible people. You will not want to miss
Speaker 1: all the inside scoop on what it's like to be
Speaker 1: one of the hottest producers in town. So y'all join
Speaker 1: me next week with Luke Luton, and make sure you
Speaker 1: go to my website Caroline Hobby dot com and click watch.
Speaker 1: If you want to see these videos and actually not
Speaker 1: just listen, but see them, you can see them on
Speaker 1: my YouTube page. So we'll see you next week.