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Speaker 1: And welcome to the latest edition of Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: live here on Giants dot com. So glad you could

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Speaker 1: He's Jeff Eagel's I'm Lance Meado. We got a jam pack.

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Speaker 1: Show is going to preview two more Giants opponents for

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Speaker 1: the upcoming season. Right off the top will focus on

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, then will transition to the Redskins. Plush your

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Speaker 1: the top we will focus on the Minnesota Vikings and

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Speaker 1: to further breakdown what to expect from the Vikings this season.

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Speaker 1: We are now joined by Matthew Coller. He covers the

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Speaker 1: Vikings for Score North ESPN Radio in Minnesota. Matthew, you

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Speaker 1: got Lance Meadow. Jeff Feagles here on Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Greatly appreciate the time today. How's everything? Everything is going well? Guys?

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait for training camp. We've been doing ranking

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Speaker 1: lists and outdowns and everything else, like I want some

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Speaker 1: football man. Yeah, well that's great. If you ever played football,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be saying that right now, if you're everybody

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Speaker 1: hates training camp, we're you kidding me. Now, I'm I

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Speaker 1: think we're all about the same way, Matthew. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's an exciting time of the year. And you know,

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Speaker 1: as I remember from a former player, this time there's

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Speaker 1: like a lull you kind of get into, like you

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Speaker 1: come back from your vacations and then you're sitting in

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Speaker 1: your living room and you're going, got I got ten

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Speaker 1: And I guess it's a Vikings fan, you've gotta be

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Speaker 1: a little excited about this team. And so I know

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Speaker 1: that Lance is gonna ask you a couple of questions

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Speaker 1: and coach, I'll try to and I heard you're a

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Speaker 1: big You're a big punter fan. So we'll get into

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Speaker 1: matt while later. But um, you know, it just kind

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Speaker 1: with the Vikings this year. Yeah, no, for sure. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to break down some old school guys,

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Speaker 1: how about Tom Tupa. Oh yeah, now we're talking. Now

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Speaker 1: we're talking. And then of course Dan and Lance they

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Speaker 1: love punting too, so we're all going to get along

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Speaker 1: real well with that's our favorite vision. Uh So, So

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Speaker 1: to answer your question, the kind of basic overview here

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Speaker 1: lot of people in the Minnesota Vikings organization. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you start with the head coach, Mike Zimmer, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and then you sign a better quarterback, or at least

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think that that's kind of the general

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Speaker 1: I think that everybody in Minnesota is feeling that pressure. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think you hit on a number of key aspects, Matthew,

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Speaker 1: That's really not Kirk Cousins game. He wants to drop

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Speaker 1: the establishment of a running game we've seen. You know,

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Speaker 1: Cousins could certainly thrive, and it also helps with the

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Speaker 1: bring him back the next year, and it was like,

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Speaker 1: you guys are just playing with fate here on. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's one of the things that I think we

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Speaker 1: focus on probably were like top five in the league,

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Speaker 1: and reporters focusing on kickers. Well, I'll tell you what,

435
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Speaker 1: they don't have that much problem is that as your

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Speaker 1: other people down in the same division, that would be

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears talking about a nightmare in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Holy smokes. But you know, I listen, I think that

439
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Speaker 1: kickers are a different breed. You know that, Matthew. And

440
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Speaker 1: the fact is is that Dan Bailey is a guy

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Speaker 1: that can you know, I feel like he was just

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Speaker 1: hurt all last season. He's still one of the most

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Speaker 1: accurate kickers in the in the history of the league.

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Speaker 1: Um So I think if he can get back healthy,

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Speaker 1: like you said, um that's any kicking indoors, which is

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Speaker 1: another good thing for him. I think that he should

447
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Speaker 1: be able to handle that that position and be fine

448
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Speaker 1: with it the rest of the season, hopefully, because you know, really,

449
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Speaker 1: when you look back out in these games, they they're

450
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Speaker 1: they're so close sometimes. You know, these field goal kickers,

451
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Speaker 1: you know a lot of people don't like them, and

452
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Speaker 1: you go practiced on the side and nobody wants to

453
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Speaker 1: deal with him. But for God's sakes, they're the ones

454
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Speaker 1: that win your games. To put you in the playoffs,

455
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Speaker 1: and they're also ones to lose your games to keep

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Speaker 1: them out. Yeah, no, you're right. And I think that

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Speaker 1: Dan Bailey is a really unflappable type of guy. Even

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Speaker 1: when he has struggled, he has he has that even

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Speaker 1: when you talk to him, sort of that veteran presence

460
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Speaker 1: to him where he doesn't ever seen shaken, where I

461
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Speaker 1: would say the exact opposite for Blair Walsh in my experience.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, though, Jeff, what about what

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Speaker 1: about the long snapper and holder? I mean, how much

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Speaker 1: does this affect that the Vikings drafted along snapper. Kind

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Speaker 1: of baffling to draft along snapper, But how much does

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Speaker 1: that impact because I think that they're looking at that

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Speaker 1: well of course there and we've talked about this on

468
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Speaker 1: the program before about um, you know, when you have

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Speaker 1: these guys working together, just like a center and quarterback exchange. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you put a different center in there, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: still gonna be able to snap the football to the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but there's a different feeling. It's a different the ball

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Speaker 1: comes back under center. Same thing with snapper holding kicker.

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Speaker 1: The longer they're together, the more they practice, the better off,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be if they're they're not in their their

476
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Speaker 1: interchangeable parts. Okay, but you know, if you're putting the

477
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Speaker 1: wrong breaks on a Mercedes, it's not gonna work. So

478
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Speaker 1: if you have that, you're changing the positions all the time.

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Speaker 1: So bringing in a long snapper you drafted him, he'll

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Speaker 1: have all the time to work together in the in

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Speaker 1: the off season and then of course during training camp,

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Speaker 1: so that will help. I'm consuming that Matt Wilde holds

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Speaker 1: and you know that's good. It's a good thing because

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Speaker 1: he if he did, he held for Dan Bailey last year. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think the more importantly of the three positions, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna change one of them, um, I think the

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Speaker 1: long snapper would be the one that you could change

488
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Speaker 1: the holding position because the holder after the end result

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Speaker 1: is the guy gets the ball and puts it down

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Speaker 1: for the kicker. Right, So that's the one that you

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Speaker 1: don't want to mess up a lot. And I think

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Speaker 1: that you know, when you have to start messing with

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Speaker 1: the holder and the kicker and there and they're long snapper,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some things that go wrong there. But

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Speaker 1: the more those guys can work together, the better. Off,

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Speaker 1: they will be Matthew, I can tell you that that's

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Speaker 1: an awesome breakdown, fantastic. I'm gonna use all that. You

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Speaker 1: can use everything you know and listen. Go to Giants

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Speaker 1: dot com. We're recording the this thing right now. You

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Speaker 1: can watch it and see if you wanted some notes,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll we'll provide the transcription will later one

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Speaker 1: math you can use all of that knowledge. He is

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Speaker 1: Matthew Keller, who covers the Vikings for Score North ESPN

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Speaker 1: Radio in Minnesota. Matthew greatly appreciate the tap of the inside.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for breaking down the vikings for us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me really appreciate it. As the Giants

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Speaker 1: and the Vikings will collide. As we look back over

508
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Speaker 1: here at our schedule, that is going to be in

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Speaker 1: week five, October six, the Vikings are gonna come visit

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Speaker 1: the Giants, so one pm Eastern kickoff, So that will

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Speaker 1: be in early season matchup. And you know, the more

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Speaker 1: and more we talk to reporters who cover teams and broadcasters,

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Speaker 1: it just goes to show you as good as some

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Speaker 1: of these teams were last season. Jeff, everybody's got question marks, concerns.

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Speaker 1: Everybody does, and I think you know, with the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: I think that and and this is just from listening

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Speaker 1: to Matthew and and doing a little bit of research

518
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Speaker 1: on these teams. We don't do a whole lot of it,

519
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Speaker 1: but when you listen to these guys, you kind of

520
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: soon realize where the where the where the needs are

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00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: and what has to improve for that team to get better.

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Speaker 1: The defense has always stayed together because they have a

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Speaker 1: defensive coach and that's my opinion, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: he's in those meetings and he has those guys and

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Speaker 1: he's wants those his defensive players. It just goes to

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Speaker 1: show you that they resign a guy who you know

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Speaker 1: is a high energy guy and when he's gone that

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Speaker 1: he noticed how that has that that kind of went away. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the leadership. Sometimes you don't talk

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Speaker 1: a lot about it's it's what you lead on the

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Speaker 1: field with rather than the vocal leaders. So teams will

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Speaker 1: sign guys back like that. But offensively, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Kirk Cousins when you think

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Speaker 1: about him making what ninety million dollars guaranteed and he's

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Speaker 1: only in the second of his third year contract and

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Speaker 1: they're already starting to talk about maybe is he going

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Speaker 1: to be the guy again? Holy smoke, ninety million bucks

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Speaker 1: they're of put in his pocket. He better play well

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Speaker 1: this year. Um, and I think that, you know, last year,

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Speaker 1: he puts a lot of pressure, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys do this. They put pressure on themselves when they

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Speaker 1: come into a position because there is pressure that you know,

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Speaker 1: you're the highest paid guy that's ever played the position.

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Speaker 1: Ninety million dollars guarantee. I mean, I think that that

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Speaker 1: guy can handle it because he's pretty cocky, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, he is a guy that

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Speaker 1: can really exactly. Um. I think that things around him

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Speaker 1: has to be improved in that offensive line, and again,

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Speaker 1: get Delvin Cook back. That's he has an outstanding running back.

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Speaker 1: I love to watch that guy play. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think that Cook is more than capable of handling

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Speaker 1: the loads. So I'm not that concerned that the Vikings

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Speaker 1: have an addressed perhaps that kept charting. I know they

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Speaker 1: brought in a mirab Dulla who's a veteran who's with

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Speaker 1: the Lions, and they've got all the pieces. If that

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Speaker 1: offensive line comes together, as we talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: here with the Giants, I would expect the Vikings to

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Speaker 1: bounce back. I think this is a team that has

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Speaker 1: too good of a coaching staff, too good of a

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Speaker 1: group of talented And here's the other thing that they

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Speaker 1: get somewhat overshadowed, Jeff when we talk about the pressure

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Speaker 1: on Kirk Cousins. He had thirty touchdowns and tenant receptions

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Speaker 1: last season, completed seventy of his passes. Those are really

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Speaker 1: good numbers. They are outstanding, especially the ten interceptions. I

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Speaker 1: mean two thirty touchdowns. Um, you know that's yeah, I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, and and it's and it really it's

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Speaker 1: you don't get to, you know, say wow, what a

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Speaker 1: great year because they didn't do well the team. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. Some guys have beautiful seasons, but

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Speaker 1: it's lost in the scheff because they didn't make the playoff. Um,

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Speaker 1: the expectations this year got to be even higher. That

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Speaker 1: does he have to play better than that? You know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much better he has to play?

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Speaker 1: Thirty touchdowns and ten interceptions. I mean, so what throw

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Speaker 1: five more touchdowns on there and maybe one less interception

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Speaker 1: or something that's still a pretty good season. It's more

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Speaker 1: of the dynamics of the offense and the the establishment through

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Speaker 1: the running game and of course the offensive line. And

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Speaker 1: now we're going to turn our attention back to the

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Speaker 1: NFC East, the team that the Giants are going to

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Speaker 1: be seeing as usual two times this season, the Washington

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Speaker 1: Redskins in to break down Washington and talk about what

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Speaker 1: to expect from them in two thousand nineteen. We are

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Speaker 1: now joined by their radio play by play announcer Larry

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Speaker 1: Michael Larry got Lance Meado Jeff Feagles with the Iran

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Speaker 1: Giants dot Com Big Blue Kickoff Live. Greatly appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: How's everything today, Hi, Larry, fantastic. How you guys doing today?

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00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: We're doing very well. Good and we are inching closer

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Speaker 1: to the start of the season, as I'm sure you

590
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: are anticipating training camp and us getting back to the

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Speaker 1: xs and o's in the physicality of football, and clearly,

592
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: hey huge storylines surrounding the Washington Redskins. No better place

593
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Speaker 1: to start than the quarterback position, Larry. They acquire case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy trying to return to health after the injury

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Speaker 1: last year, and then of course Dwayne Haskins being drafted.

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Speaker 1: So as it goes heading into training camp, what do

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Speaker 1: you say about the quarterback position, the battle who's right

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Speaker 1: now in the driver's seed in terms of at least

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Speaker 1: being under center for week one? I think that driver's

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Speaker 1: seat is open right now. I think it's like one

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Speaker 1: of those testla's, you know, it's one of those cars

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Speaker 1: that drives itself right now and then hopefully keep it

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Speaker 1: on there. You know, I don't know right now. I

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Speaker 1: think what obviously, with the quarterback situation that unfolded during

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Speaker 1: the draft, we will have plenty of discussions over the

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Speaker 1: years about the quarterbacks on our respective teams, which I

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00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: think is healthy for the rivalry and obviously adds a

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Speaker 1: little sidebar to everything that happens. But right now, let

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Speaker 1: mean the coach coach has said several times quarterback competition,

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Speaker 1: and we really haven't seen something like that in a while.

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Speaker 1: I mean a pure quarterback competition. And you guys know

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Speaker 1: the cast of characters. You've got case keenum Um, who

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Speaker 1: has you know, pretty much proven what he can do

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Speaker 1: as a starter in his time that he's played. You

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Speaker 1: have Colt McCoy who has been kind of banged up

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Speaker 1: over time, and you have Dwayne Haskins Jr. The first

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Speaker 1: round pick. So but you'd have to, you know, be

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Speaker 1: on mars not to figure out that Dwayne Haskins was

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Speaker 1: drafted with that first round pick to be the starter

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Speaker 1: one day. So the question becomes what happens if camp?

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Speaker 1: How important are these preseason games, if at all. We've

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Speaker 1: kind of discounted these preseason games for so many years now,

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Speaker 1: but I really believe in this instance, what we see

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Speaker 1: in preseason might give you a little bit of an indication,

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00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: or it could put somebody back if they don't play

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: well in one of those games. It's got the fans excited,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Everybody likes a quarterback controversy in this town.

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Speaker 1: Not quite a controversy yet. It's a competition, but once

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Speaker 1: they start making plays or making mistakes, it'll it'll it'll

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Speaker 1: heat up. Well, I think, you know, you have two

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Speaker 1: veteran guys there in this competition that are going to

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Speaker 1: give Dwayne Haskins a run for his money, just because

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Speaker 1: of the of the leadership and the experience they has. However,

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Speaker 1: you know, you look at Dwayne Haskins in the upside

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Speaker 1: to him is is his athleticism is big arm things

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Speaker 1: like that. What is Dwayne Haskins in your opinion, Larry

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Speaker 1: have to do in these in training camp or in

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Speaker 1: these preseason games to earn the starting job or do

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Speaker 1: you think in your mind, um, can you do it?

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Speaker 1: I think you can do it. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: And again, you know, the coach has stated that it's

642
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Speaker 1: a competition. So if it is a competition, then obviously

643
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: for him, he's got to play mistake free when he

644
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: gets first team reps. Still don't know how those reps

645
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: are going to be distributed during training camp. We'll find

646
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: out a week from tomorrow's first day of practice in Richmond,

647
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: so well we'll get our first taste in. But just

648
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, play air free, learned the playbook, take command

649
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: of the huddle. He's got, He's got a lot to learn.

650
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: Is as much physical ability as he has. He's still

651
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: a rookie. And you know, I didn't have to call plays.

652
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, they had to play calling system from the

653
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: sidelines at Ohio State. And there's a lot of nuances

654
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: that he has he's got to get coached up on.

655
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: But you know, that big arm, but obviously is something

656
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: you can't and you can't overlook. So this becomes a

657
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: very interesting battle because of what case Keendom. You know

658
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: what he can do, and and he's his first year

659
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: in the offense, but he's been just about every offense

660
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: there is, and Dwayne is just purely clean out at

661
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: school between has been very reserved. H he hasn't you know,

662
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: he's been He's been just watching learning. I think he's

663
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: been doing what they wanted him to do, because that

664
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: is really his biggest challenge is to learn learn every

665
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: nuance to play pro quarterback. And and that doesn't happen overnight.

666
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: If it happens overnight, you've got an extremely special kid.

667
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see. I think, you know, again,

668
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: playing mistake free. You get put in the preseason game

669
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: and maybe you're playing with the twos or the threes,

670
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: and you're out there and you make some mistakes. If

671
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: he gets the chance to play with the ones in preseason,

672
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: that might be an indication which way this is leaning,

673
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: But I don't think. I mean, we've got about two

674
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: weeks here before we even three weeks from tomorrow's the

675
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: first preseason game, so we'll see what he does in practice.

676
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: They got a lot of a lot of padded practices

677
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: front loaded in their in their training camp schedule. So

678
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: we'll we'll find out in a couple of weeks where

679
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: he stands well. Whoever is under center at any point

680
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: this season, Larry clearly is going to be dependent on

681
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: the offensive line. And you look back at two thousand eighteen,

682
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a team that had

683
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: to deal with so many injuries at one position, then

684
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: my goodness, what the Washington Redskins had to deal with that.

685
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: We know they've got a lot of proven commodities on

686
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: that offensive line, but there's some speculation about Trent Williams

687
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: and his happiness and whether or not he's going to

688
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: hold out at the left tackle spot. And Eric Flowers,

689
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: the former Giant, is now in the mix. What's the

690
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: assessment to this group from a health perspective, also from

691
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: a productivity standpoint, Well, you're right, Lands last year was

692
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: just devastating on the offensive line. We didn't think the

693
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen could be topped the two thousand

694
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: and eighteen. Sure did. I think they went through eight

695
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: guards last year. It just was just incredible, and just

696
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: every time you turned around another guy was going down,

697
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: and just there are several occasions you had a guy

698
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: come in on a Friday and he played on a Sunday.

699
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: And that is not the that's not your best plan.

700
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: That's not a good strategy, I don't think. So you

701
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: bring up Trent. You know, Trent obviously wasn't here during

702
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: the off season program. He never did participate in the

703
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: off season program, but he didn't participate in the mandatory

704
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: minicamp which he had in the past. So we'll see.

705
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: We'll see on his status when he gets there. You

706
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: got some young players. Brandon Sheriff is healthy, he was

707
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: hurt last year. Morgan Moses first offseason for him without

708
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: a surgery. He is healthy. The center Chase ruly As

709
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: seems to be in pretty good shape. Uh drafted a

710
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: couple of offensive lineman Martin out of Indiana and Pierce

711
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: Baker out of Alabama. Those two players can play guard.

712
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Pierce Baker play center as well. And Janet Christian, the

713
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: second third round pick last year, didn't play much because

714
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: of an injury last year. And you mentioned Flowers who

715
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: have they had airmarked at guard because you know, obviously

716
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: the Redskins played the Giants twice a year, and we

717
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: saw Eric Flowers and we know, you know how our

718
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: defense events, you know, played against Eric. But you know what,

719
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: and maybe a change in position for a kid like

720
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: that who does have ability would be uh, it would

721
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: be the start up, something new for him. But you know,

722
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: I think health wise they're okay. I think they got

723
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of death this year. But your best

724
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: offensive lineman is Trent Williams. And and that right now

725
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: is a question where everybody's waiting to see, you know,

726
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: what happens next week. Well, you know last year, you

727
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: got people got really excited about Darius Guys at the

728
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: beginning of that, you know, the preseason. Unfortunately he had

729
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: that torn e c L give us a little bit

730
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: of update on him and where Adrian Peterson is going

731
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: to fit into this role this year. I know he

732
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: had obviously was forced into a lot of action because

733
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: of the injury. Talk a little bit about the running

734
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: the running back position in general, but more importantly about

735
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Darius Guys and and Hiss comeback. Well, you know, he's uh,

736
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: he's a unique individual. He's a he's a very fiery guy,

737
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: very passionate guy, and he didn't get a chance to

738
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: play last year. First preseason game he went down, and

739
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, obviously very long, grueling rehab for him. He

740
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: really committed to it. A couple of setbacks along the way,

741
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: but he put it. He put a video of himself out,

742
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: I think on Instagram yesterday where he was just doing

743
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: some maniacal drills running on the practice field here. I

744
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: do think you will see very little of him early

745
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: in camp. I think, you know, the plan might be

746
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: and make sure he's at the starting gate when the

747
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: season starts. And Adrian Peterson played beyond expectations last year.

748
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: He blew the team away when they needed a running back.

749
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: They brought it a bunch to to work out and

750
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't barely sweat and after the workouts, so they said, Wow,

751
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: this guy in pretty good shape. And you talked about

752
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: a gas tank. He seems to have a bigger gas

753
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: tank than most. So I think he's gonna be prime

754
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: for a year. Chris Thompson, the third down back, you know,

755
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: has been healthy for the first time in off season,

756
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: didn't have any kind of setbacks this year, so he's

757
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: he's looking real good in the off season drills. P

758
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: Ryan was a draft pick a couple of years ago.

759
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: He got a lot of the first team reps during

760
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: the off season. Because of the absence of a p

761
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: he didn't participate in the voluntary program, and guys, you

762
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: know it wasn't going to be practicing during the off season.

763
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: So I think they've got plenty of running running backs

764
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: in the room. And Bryce Love wa pick up from

765
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Stanford who was coming back from an injury and his

766
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: senior year in college. He had been projected as maybe

767
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: the top running back two years ago, but he got hurt,

768
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: so they took a shot on him. But again back

769
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: to the previous comment, we know ourselves. Unless that offensive

770
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: line is gonna make some holes, your running backs are

771
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: gonna have anywhere to go. So a lot of optimism

772
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: about the Redskins running game. I think they've got a

773
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: pretty good room of running backs with offensive line being healthy.

774
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: And then Guys is kind of a wild card because

775
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: he isn't every down back, and Chris Thompson is as well,

776
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: but you know he's a little smaller. They prefer to

777
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: use him in third down. And Adrian Peterson, you know,

778
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: you want to keep feeding the beast the ball, So

779
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: it's a it's a nice combination. I think there's good

780
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: optimism on the ring game this year for the Skins.

781
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: And if you look at the numbers last season. To

782
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: your point, Larry, Adrian Peterson when he ran for ninety

783
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: six yards in a game five and two, and then

784
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: second half of the season offensive line gets banged up

785
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: two and seven when he's below ninety six yards. So

786
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm agreement with you. I mean, if the offensive line

787
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: comes to play he's healthy, they could certainly still be dangerous.

788
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: We're talking to Larry Michael, the radio play by play

789
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: announcer for the Washington Redskins. Then we get to the

790
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: receiving corps. Larry, and while I think there's some question

791
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: marks on the offensive line, in my personal opinion, I

792
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: think the receiving corps maybe the biggest question mark for

793
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: this team. You lose Jamison Crowder, he goes to the Jets.

794
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: There's some upside and a guy like Trey Quinn who

795
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: was hurt last season, but you know, Josh Dockson, I

796
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: think the clocks ticking there in terms of his consistency.

797
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: You had Paul Richardson was banged up and they just

798
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: drafted Terry McLaurin. What is your feelings of this receiving corps,

799
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: which is gonna be so critical obviously to whichever quarterback

800
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: plays the bulk of the reps this season. Well, I

801
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: mean it's almost like you're one of our fans their lance,

802
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: because that's the emails I get to the TV show

803
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, where's the number one receiver?

804
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: Had an email today? Who's the Redskins number one receiver?

805
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: You'd wanted to be Josh Dockson. You'd wanted to be

806
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Josh docks And he's a former first round pick and

807
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of injuries along the way. He's

808
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract, and normally when

809
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: you see a player like that, you know he's just

810
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: gonna go all out and try to just make something

811
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: happen this year because he wants to, you know, he

812
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: wants to be a highly paid wide receiver in the

813
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: National Football League. To me, that's a great motivated factor.

814
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson got hurt last year and he's that deep threat,

815
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: but you don't know how he's gonna figure in. You

816
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: didn mention Trey Quinn Crowder became a little too expensive

817
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: for the I think the Redskins allowed him to go.

818
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: As much as they didn't want to see him go,

819
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: they weren't prepared to pay what was gonna get paid

820
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: for that slot receiver. But tray Quinn had been the understudy,

821
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: has great hands, great round were out running ability, and

822
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned McLaren, who's probably the fastest of the bunch.

823
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: He didn't mention a guy named Can Sims who made

824
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: the team last year. Sixth four receiver out of Alabama

825
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: made the team last year and on the first kickoff,

826
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: the opening kickoff of the opening game, had a high

827
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: ankle spring on special teams and he was shelved. So

828
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: he's kind of like the secret reaping. There's no secret

829
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: weapons in the NFL. Obviously, everybody scouts everybody. But he's

830
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: a player that could step up unexpectedly, someone who the

831
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: Redskins fans know about, haven't seen much of him. Very

832
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: talented and if he you know, if he can get

833
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean get through get through camp, everybody gets the

834
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: starting get healthy. You don't you might not identify a

835
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: number one receiver, but do you have to have a

836
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: number one receiver? I guess maybe you do, you know,

837
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: I think that could evolve over the season. Josh Dockson

838
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: is a guy, you know, obviously playing final year of

839
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: his contract. A lot of heat on him to perform

840
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: this year. And you've got some youngsters in there too.

841
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: Kelvin Harmon, the player out of Jersey you went to

842
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: NC State, was NC State's all time receiver. He looks

843
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: like an outstanding player. Fell in the draft because of

844
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: a slow time in the forty at the combine, But

845
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: he looks the part two. So I think they've got

846
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: plenty of receivers. Might they lack a clear number one?

847
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: Probably at this point they do. Well, I know you

848
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: have a number one tight end over there in Jordan

849
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: Read because he's a he's a he's a giant killer.

850
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: Along with that, we're gonna go to the defensive side

851
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: and um one giant killer. And I'm sure that Eric

852
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Flowers is happy to see as a teammate is Ryan Karrogan,

853
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: because I tell you that as a man, he is

854
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: a playmaking beast that yet he all he does is

855
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: make tackles and stacks against the giants. Let's go to

856
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: that defensive law. Actually, it's gonna stay with the linebackers.

857
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see you a little bit about what's

858
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: happening um with that defense and where they're going to

859
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: be this year. Well, you mentioned karg and he mentioned

860
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: the obvious with Flowers. I didn't want to just flat

861
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: out say that, but I didn't. You know, obviously, we

862
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: we we all watched the same games the last few years,

863
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: so you know, but Karagan is an outstanding player that

864
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: it really takes nothing away from him. And it's the end,

865
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: not point to finger at Erica's Karrigan is really good.

866
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: But the fact that they got a chance to draft

867
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Montess went in the first round, a player that could

868
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: be opposite carrying, a player who on third down is

869
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: going to have to demand attention. And Kerrigan we are

870
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, who's rushing the passer for

871
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: the Redskins last couple of years, it's been Karragan and

872
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: who else. Now you put him in there, and he

873
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: is a freaking nature. He looks a lot like a

874
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: Carris or Haley. He's got this long, lean body and

875
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: he's a pass rusher. So that's going to help car

876
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: again a lot. Ryan Anderson, the third year player at Alabama,

877
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: as kind of we had Preston Smith last year. He

878
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: left by a free agency, so Ryan Anderson is going

879
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: to step in there too, so I think they're pretty

880
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: good shape at outside linebackers. The loss of Ruben Foster

881
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: on the first day of O T a S at

882
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: the time was really devastating. It was an emotional loss

883
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: because the guy gone through so much to become active,

884
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: to play, to go through all of the issues he

885
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: went through, and he really was just a model model guy.

886
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: Really get to know a guy. If you work in

887
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: the same location you guys know, sometimes what you hear

888
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: isn't what you get. And this guy was great, and

889
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: he went down, you know, basically the first day of

890
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: O T a S. So they kind of have to

891
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: reassess where they're at. Inside drafted a guy Cole Holkim

892
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: out of North Carolina. Uh. He's a little bit undersized

893
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: for linebacker, but he's got great speed, makes a lot

894
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: of tackles. And last year Shawn Dion Hamilton's another Alabama player,

895
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: was drafted and he was coming off an injury his

896
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: last year at Alabama. By the end of the year

897
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: he had stepped in at the inside backer spot and

898
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: and he looked really good. So, you know, I guess

899
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: there's some question marks there, No question marks about the

900
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: strength of the team. The heart of the team is

901
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: the defensive line of his football team. They invested two

902
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: first round picks, They invested money and Matt Ianitis out

903
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: of Flemington, New Jersey. He's really grown as a player.

904
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of other guys who give them depth,

905
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: him Settle, Caleb Brantley. The defensive line of this team

906
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: is the heart and soul of the team, and it's

907
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: also the heart and soul of the leadership of the team.

908
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: They bring this attitude and I want to say, it's

909
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: like they like to brag us a little bit of

910
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: their Alabama attitude. But you know what's gonna happen. It's

911
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: pretty much what's gonna happen when we get out there.

912
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: It's in our hands. And I think they have taken

913
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: leadership brains of the team, and it's undeniable if you're

914
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: around the football team. The defensive line is the strength

915
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: of the team. So that's going to help the guys

916
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: in the back end. And and again a lot of

917
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: familiarity here because we have your former number twenty one.

918
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: Of course here he cannot wear twenty one, but but

919
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: but there he wore twenty one. And and just to

920
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: look at that guy in practice and say, you know,

921
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: you know, how did he end up with the Redskins.

922
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: I just I can't believe that that he's on the team.

923
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: He's and it's obviously all these Sean Taylor references and

924
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: he idolized Sean Taylor, who is still you know, revered

925
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: in this building. It just only seems like yesterday he

926
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: passed away and it's been over ten years. But to

927
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: put him in the in the secondary has completely changed

928
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: the complexion of the secondary. And he's such a team

929
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: first guy from what I can see, and another instant leader.

930
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: So to me strengthen the teams of defense, I don't

931
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: think I'm telling any secrets by saying that they they

932
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: missed a lot of money in the defense and they're

933
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to step up. The beginning of the schedule

934
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: is very tough. You know a lot of them to

935
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: be NFC East games, so the Patriots in there early

936
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: as well, open with the Eagles. So you know the schedule,

937
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: you're going to find out early about the football team.

938
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: How ready they're going to be. Absolutely and Larry you

939
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: just brought up Landed Collins. It's amazing. The more and more.

940
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: You list the personnel, how much crossover there is between

941
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Redskins. It's so many former players

942
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: I know d r C also on the Redskins roster.

943
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the impact that you've already seen from

944
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: Landed Collins, but big picture perspective, even beyond Collins the

945
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: safety position, Larry, there's been a lot of turnover there

946
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: in Washington. How much does Landing in your opinion, provides stability,

947
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: be that stabilizing force for the back end so that

948
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: the corners even you get better production out of him

949
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: for what maybe they were missing as a security blanket

950
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: at the safety position in years prior. Wells, I mean,

951
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: you can only talk about it being on paper, right

952
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: because we haven't seen these guys. They've got a jealousy unit.

953
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: But as you look at it on paper and you

954
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: look at him on the practice field and you get

955
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: to meet him, talk to him and know what he

956
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: brings the team, I think you're on the money. I mean,

957
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: he is a solidifying factor maybe for the entire defense,

958
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: because the defensive line is already solid. Those guys just

959
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: there a unit within a unit, and they're very very

960
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: tight knit group. Now you put a guy back there

961
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: like him, who's gonna be a traffic cop back there,

962
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: but also who's gonna be asked to do a lot

963
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: of different things, and so he is prepared to do that.

964
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: He's not a rookie's not a second year guy, and

965
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, putting them back there, I think that's a

966
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: great point. The Redskins have had a revolving door at

967
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: safety pretty much for the last ten years. I mean,

968
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: they thought they had a tandem and Sean Taylor and

969
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: Laurent Landry that would last them a good long time.

970
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: And obviously history is what it is, and really since

971
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: then that's you're going back away, so that you know,

972
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: that would have evolved anyway, but I really haven't had

973
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: a solid presence back there. Maybe DJ Swerringer was that

974
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but as things began to

975
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: pile up last year and injuries began to pile up,

976
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: he ended up getting released at the end of the

977
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: year during the season, and I think that was a

978
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: move of looking at the future that they needed to,

979
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: you know, maybe get guys in here that you know,

980
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna be leaders and that we're gonna you know,

981
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: talk to talking and walk to walk. Collins comes in

982
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: here first day here, got immediate respect from his teammates

983
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: and you know, agetting to know him a little bit. Again,

984
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: you guys know him a lot better than me. He

985
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: was there for many, many years. But he seems like

986
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: an all business guy. And he's not a guy that

987
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: you happened that much. I don't see him you happened

988
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: that much. So we'll see, we'll see. But I think

989
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: you're on point. I think he's a solid, solidified factor

990
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: for the secondary, which really needed one. Well, one thing

991
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: you're going to see out of him is he's he's

992
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: a gamer. The guy that he like not like to

993
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: come off the field. Um, he's that he's the ultimate

994
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: box safety, if you will. He makes a lot of

995
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: tackles and you know those type of players, they that

996
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: just lead. That's leadership on the field, leadership. He's not

997
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: a big talker off the field either, and that's why

998
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: the guys like him in the locker room. So I

999
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: think that he'll be a good addition to that secondary

1000
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: and um, hopefully you know he doesn't have two good

1001
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: days that during the season, Well, he's got a running

1002
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: back to deal with that. Right eye followed each other

1003
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: already in the open field. So that question has been

1004
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: asked the land in quite a bit. And you know,

1005
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what makes us robbery better than

1006
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: most because you know, the reds can't hate the Giants,

1007
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: but you're not the cowboys, that's right. Yeah, And I agree.

1008
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: I think that everybody is safe to say that. And

1009
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: we've had we've had. One of one of my former

1010
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: partners is a very unique individual. He is pretty much

1011
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer with two organizations, and he's not

1012
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: on the broadcast crew anymore. But he taught me about

1013
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: that Redskins giant robbery named Sam Huff. Sam Huff told

1014
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: me when he was with the Giants and Ali Sherman

1015
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: man they would consider the Redskins two wins automatic before

1016
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: the season started. But then he got traded to the

1017
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: Redskins and he wanted nothing more than just annihilate and

1018
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Ali Sherman. And in fact, one year he called the

1019
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: time out when the Redskins were up forty two, so

1020
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: they kicked a field goal to make So you guys,

1021
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: you guys, that's a little bit of the Redskins Giants history. Um,

1022
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: you know, and Sam Sam again revered in both organizations.

1023
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: So you know, I think, and now you got this

1024
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: quarterback situation that's gonna you know, obviously, how often? How

1025
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: often is that going to be mentioned when these two

1026
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: teams play, When the question would be the first time

1027
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: they play, will either of these young guys be playing?

1028
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: That's week four? Will either of these young guys be

1029
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: playing week four? I don't know. I don't know. That's interesting.

1030
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: If it was week eight, I think it'd be a

1031
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: little different conversation because there's more of a chance for

1032
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: either one of these teams that start to go south,

1033
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: and then you kind of know that these young guys

1034
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: are eventually going to make it into the lineup. But

1035
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's gonna be a tough question. Well,

1036
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: it's certainly will be a conversation when they meet again

1037
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: in week sixteen. I think that and we got so

1038
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: tough we we will indeed, Larry, he is Larry Michael

1039
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: the Redskins radio play by playing out So Larry, really

1040
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: appreciate the time in the inside. Ah, he's good talking

1041
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: with you, and look forward to crossing paths this season.

1042
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Thanks you so much, Larry, appreciate it. Take care of you,

1043
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: got it, Larry Michael once again weighing in on the

1044
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: outlook of the Washington Redskins. A lot of great stuff

1045
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: in terms of the question marks that they have on

1046
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: offense and defense. And it's interesting because it's almost like

1047
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: the complete opposite of the Giants, right their strength is defense.

1048
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: As Larry pointed out right, the Giants have more question marks,

1049
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: and the Giants feel a little bit better maybe about

1050
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: their offense going into the season. But you know, you

1051
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: look at that Redskins offense is a big question mark.

1052
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 1: I mean at the receiver position. I mean those that's

1053
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: not a that's not in my opinion, that is not

1054
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: a very strong ride receivers. Well, I mean that's why

1055
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: I brought that up. Donbelieve him. I'm looking at these

1056
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: names and then maybe they prove us wrong. But I mean,

1057
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: this is not a good situation. And you know, with

1058
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: that offensive line if it last year, I remember, remember

1059
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: we were it was unbelievable what the Redskins did with

1060
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: that offensive line. They had nobody last year. I'm especially

1061
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: the second game because the first game the Redskins ran

1062
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: all over the Giants. He had that big run. But

1063
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: they were healthy. The offensive line was healthy. Yeah, I

1064
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: mean it's just so we'll see what happened. But that's

1065
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: a good you know, I feel like Dwayne Haskins is

1066
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: going to be that. His his acumen is pretty good.

1067
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: He's he I mean, the guy can. He really is

1068
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: good as far as the game of football and understanding

1069
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: and how quickly he's going to be able to turn

1070
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: around the next level is something to be seen. But

1071
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, you look at case Keenum, a guy who

1072
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: has been in the league a long time and have

1073
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: done plenty of offenses around where he's been at UM.

1074
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: I would pencil in him as the game one starter.

1075
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: But I but I feel like it's not gonna be

1076
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: how bad Case plays. It's gonna be when Dwayne Haskins

1077
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: the coaching staff feels he's ready, and then he's going

1078
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: to go in well. And the other thing that we

1079
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have time to bring up because it's pure speculation,

1080
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: how much does Jay Gruden's job security Jeff influence the

1081
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: decisions he makes at the quarterback position. You know, he's

1082
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: even jokingly thrown out, I don't know if I'm gonna

1083
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: be here next season, And once again, everybody loves to

1084
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: read into that, and I don't know if there is

1085
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: anything to read into that, but if cases playing decent,

1086
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: the team is though not necessarily translating that to wins,

1087
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: does now he have motivation? Alright, let's see what we

1088
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: could do with the young quarterback. Maybe the front office

1089
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: feels I could develop it. You know, listen, if there

1090
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: is one team in the National Football League that gets

1091
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: the heat, that heat comes from that front office and

1092
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder absolutely know it. Dan Snyder picks up the

1093
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: phone and calls down there or whatever. It's on. Uh,

1094
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: this guy's going in. Hey, it's week five. I want

1095
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: to see him. Now he's going in. It's something I

1096
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: think he gotta take it. That gets iteration, And I'm

1097
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: with you. In terms of the receiving corps, I think

1098
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: that the Redskins have potential. You know, I read some

1099
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: of these names. Tray Quinn, I'm very high on. I

1100
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if he has a really good season.

1101
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin their early draft pick. So you know, those

1102
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: two guys could be productive. It's just the could have,

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00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: would have should a game a little bit with the Redskins.

1104
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, if Josh Doxon made some catches, we'd probably

1105
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: be talking about him a little bit differently. I remember

1106
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: there was a Monday night game Jeff Chiefs Redskins Kirk Cousins.

1107
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: He he doesn't have a great prime time record, specifically

1108
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: on Monday Night. Well, that game, he throws into the

1109
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: end zone perfectly placed for Josh Doxon, would have been

1110
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: a go ahead touchdown and docks and drops it. You know,

1111
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 1: does everybody remember that when you think of a random

1112
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Monday night game? No, which is another reason why I

1113
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: hate quarterback records. But we'll save that for a whole

1114
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: other program here on Big Blue Kickoff Live. In the meantime,

1115
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: let's head to the phone lines and try to give

1116
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: you an opportunity to weigh in on a few topics

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00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: as we end the program. Two zero five one three,

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00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: Keith is in Cranford. Keith, Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff.

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00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: What do you okay? I just want to say I

1120
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: love your show and I've been watching it for years. Um,

1121
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever been able to get in

1122
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: and give you a call. But I also helped build

1123
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: the original Giant Stadium and built and helped build the

1124
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: new stadium also, so we did a hell of a job.

1125
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: So but the main thing that I'm what I can

1126
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: say is I like the way there they redid the

1127
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: offensive line. Proof is in the pudding. When we start

1128
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: putting pads on everything else, I want to see what

1129
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: it really can do. Hopefully gives um Eli a bit

1130
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: more time, because I really do like Eli and I

1131
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: want to see them perform able to open up some

1132
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: holes for the run also. But the main, main, the

1133
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: main things that I'm looking at is on defense, because

1134
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: in the last quite a few years, we've e been

1135
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: tight ends have been eating our lunch and I'm hoping

1136
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: Pepper's is part of the answer. But I like the

1137
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: fact we really have If we can come up with

1138
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: a strong secondary, I think you can solve a lot

1139
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: of our problems, because I don't. I think we might

1140
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: have a bit of a pass rest, but I'm not

1141
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: sure it's how good it's gonna be. So I just

1142
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: want to know what you thought about how we're gonna

1143
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: be covering the tight ends. Well, I think that I

1144
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: think at the linebacker, the outside linebacker position, Okay, um

1145
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: you get you got a little bit of you got

1146
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of better speed, Okay, I think that's

1147
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: where it's all about. I mean your your your linebacker

1148
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: has got to be able to cover and in years past,

1149
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right about the tight ends. I mean,

1150
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: let's just talk about Jason Wentten. I mean and and

1151
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: and um and read and just the Earth's I mean,

1152
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: the list goes on. And not that those guys are

1153
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: chopped Liver. They're pretty darn good tight ends. But for

1154
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: some reason, the Giants have always had a problem covering

1155
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: those guys. So I do believe that your Bill Peppers

1156
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: will be helpful there because I think your Bill Peppers

1157
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: is a better cover safety than Landon Collins was. I

1158
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: absolutely agree with that. So we'll see. But you're right,

1159
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: the proof is in the potting here, and I think

1160
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: that that is a point that coach betcher And is

1161
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: certainly making on this defense, is that we got to

1162
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: cover better from the tight end position. Because offenses today

1163
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: they run that personnel where they have that line, those

1164
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: linebackers get matched up on those tight ends. That's a mismatch,

1165
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: and that's what they're trying to go at another I

1166
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: think we might have a mismatch for other teams. Well,

1167
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: if Evan Ingraham stays healthy, absolutely, I mean, if he

1168
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: could build off what he did in the final four games.

1169
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm certainly with you there, Keith. Another thing I want

1170
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: to throw out on the defensive side of the ball

1171
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: that I'm not saying he is going to be lined

1172
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: up on tight ends. But is somebody Jeff that they

1173
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: could experiment with. Is Julian Love one of their draft picks,

1174
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: because Love's got the versatility to be a corner slash safety,

1175
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: you know, play out of the slot moved to the outside.

1176
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: That's a guy that I think is intriguing to watch,

1177
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: depending on how quickly he picks up on the defense,

1178
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: that they may want to throw out there too in

1179
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: those circumstances. Sure. I mean. The other thing I feel

1180
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: is also that what they're doing with the defense is

1181
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: up there, giving it a lot more flexibility. So I

1182
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be harder to figure out what they're

1183
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: doing because they have people that can do more things together.

1184
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: You know. Well, there's that versatility factor. I think you

1185
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: and that that that makes it a lot more interesting.

1186
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: And if you can not show them what you're gonna

1187
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: do and sort of keep them guessing a little bit more,

1188
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: I think that's helpful. Well, I think you bring up

1189
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: a really good point and we'll let you go on

1190
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: that note, Keith, thanks so much for tuning in, Thanks

1191
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: so much for following the show, and piggybacking off of

1192
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: his point. I think when you're playing the Giants defense

1193
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: this season, Jeff, and normally you always look for, right,

1194
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: who's the guy that maybe he is going to demand

1195
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 1: the double team? Jeff? Who do we want to throw

1196
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: away from we want to avoid? I don't know if

1197
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: the Giants necessarily have one or two guys that immediately

1198
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: draws in the attention of an opposing offensive coordinator. So

1199
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: that alone, I think goes to the point that Keith

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00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: was bringing up that there is a bit of an unknown,

1201
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: and with a bit of an unknown and guys being

1202
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: moved around and mixed and act, you know who's gonna

1203
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: lead this team in sacks? I think you can throw

1204
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: out a bunch of different names. You know, who's gonna

1205
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: be the top coverage guy, who's going to be maybe

1206
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: one of the young guys that was a little bit

1207
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: quiet last season that's going to emerge that adds some

1208
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: intrigue to this defense. And we talk about other defenses

1209
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: and other teams, you right away can pretty much come

1210
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: up with a player that you just asked about. You

1211
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: know this this team? No, you really can't. You know

1212
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: who is who is going to be your guy that

1213
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: leads the team in sacks. Is it going to come

1214
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: from the interior or the gonna come from the outside.

1215
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, to be honest with you, I actually

1216
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: think it's gonna come from inside. I really period defense

1217
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: want interesting? I really do you mean like a Dexter

1218
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence or a B. J. Hill That I feel Dexter

1219
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: Lawrence is kind of the X factor in this defense

1220
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: because I think he's so versatile, how he can be,

1221
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: how they can use him. But I feel like he's

1222
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: he just understands the game of football so well and

1223
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: that not only is he going to get in the

1224
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: face of the quarterbacks you watch, he will be knocking

1225
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: down balls at the line of scrimmage because he's a

1226
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: big dude. But I also by watching him on film,

1227
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: I see him he and seeing him in a practice.

1228
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: He has good presence as far as where the football

1229
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: is going, both in the air and on the ground.

1230
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna make some big plays. And

1231
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: you've got you know, you got the whole just that

1232
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: whole defensive line. I think is fun to watch. It's

1233
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: been finally built up to. I think that that's where

1234
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: the sacks are going to come from. Now Listen, Um

1235
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Carter and Marcus Golden. Of course they've got to have

1236
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: good years. I think they want to. Marcus Golden is

1237
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: that guy has a motor man, you know, so he

1238
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: will be I saw him in some of the O

1239
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: t A practices. That guy is in the face of

1240
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks every team are granted they're going against some

1241
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, Nate Solder is not there, so Grammers is

1242
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: not there, So who are they behind there? Behind the

1243
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: second team tackles and so you know, Yeah, he makes

1244
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: some plays in there. But I think those could the

1245
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: sacks could come from the outside, but I have a

1246
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: feeling that they're the leaders are going to be from

1247
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: the inside. Well, I think Golden's an X factor for

1248
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: what you just laid out. If Golden taps back into

1249
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: what he did in two thousand six, Jeff, I mean,

1250
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: that would be a huge bonus for the Giants. And

1251
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: here's another name, Oh Shane Ziminez. Maybe Ziminez surprises a

1252
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: lot of people and has an impressive rookie campaign. He

1253
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: gives you something that's also I think a pleasant surprise.

1254
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: There's no question. It's just a matter of his maturity

1255
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: and how and how he can pick up things. You know, folks,

1256
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: I can tell you that you know just by listening

1257
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: to people, and they're always they say the same things.

1258
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: Rookies are rookies. You're obviously a rookies because it's the

1259
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: first year. You know that, but it's you're there. It's tough.

1260
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: It's really difficult because the game at this level is

1261
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: much different than the game. Talk about Dwayne Haskins Okay

1262
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State. He has to learn how to call plays

1263
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: in the huddle. You know, when he was in Ohio State,

1264
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: they were calling the plays in the sideline. So I

1265
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: was gonna ask him about that, um Larry about how

1266
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: how did he see? How did that go? How did

1267
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: that transition him gett into plays in in in mini

1268
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: camp and O t s. And that's something different because

1269
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: from a college player standpoint, you come to line scrimmage,

1270
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: you're looking at coverages and this that you don't have

1271
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: to remember a play because they're giving it to you

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Speaker 1: as you're seeing it on the field. That's a different

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Speaker 1: step that you have to take and that that takes

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Speaker 1: some maturity, and that's what I'm leading into. Like these

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Speaker 1: other guys like the X Men, he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: learn the game of football from the coach Betcher's perspective

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Speaker 1: and how to play his defense. It's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Plus Haskins also is only just a one year's daughter,

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Speaker 1: that's right, a lot less experience than some of these

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Speaker 1: other rookies specifically, like a guy like Daniel Jones. And

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Speaker 1: it's so difficult to play quarterback in the National Football

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Speaker 1: League because it takes more than just throwing the football.

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Speaker 1: It's it takes you got to learn how to call plays,

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Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to read defenses. You have to

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Speaker 1: just be so much more into the game and situational football,

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Speaker 1: there's two minute game and you're in the four minute

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Speaker 1: game and you're you know, before the half, how many

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Speaker 1: time outs you have. There's usually a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: in college that just the coaches are doing all that

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Speaker 1: for you. That's not what's You're gonna be asked to

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Speaker 1: do that yourself now. And it's a big learning process.

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Speaker 1: So that is gonna wrap up today's edition of Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live certainly appreciate everybody from tuning in. It

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Speaker 1: was well that when you preview two opponents, it flies

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Speaker 1: by when you're having fun. And speaking of that, tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: we will continue our preview of the NFC East, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Eagles, and that is going to wrap

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Speaker 1: up every opponent that the Giants will see at some

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Speaker 1: point this season. But we appreciate everybody tuning in for

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow right here on Giants dot Com. Have a

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