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Find out 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: how to protect your child when you're out of the 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: mall or the store, or the grocery, in the parking 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: lot at home. Find out about protection regarding babysitters, in daycare, 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: even online. I'd rather have that any day of the 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: week than a plastic toy our God forbid a toy gun. 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Join Justice Nation. Go to crime stops here dot com 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Newly released surveillance video shows 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: the moment a payment dispute over a thirty five dollar 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: manicure turned into a murder investigation. Police save twenty one 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: year old Crystal Whipple was behind the wheel. They tell 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: us the nail salon declined her fraudulent credit card and 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: she decided to take off. Whipple starts to drive away 29 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: from the salon. New Knockwin, known as Annie, and another 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: employee run out of the store to confront Whipple. She 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: doesn't stop. Hits Win then runs her over, killing her, 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: and then drives away, knocking the other employee off of 33 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: the car. Seeking the communities help to find Whipple, Metro 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: Police Lieutenant Ray Spencer had this to say, Please take 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: a close look at this photo. It is important that 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: we get this suspect into custody, as the victim's family 37 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and this community deserve to have her answer for this 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: horrible crime. While detectives search for the suspect, the victim's 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: family mourns a growing memorial to Win now sits inside 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: of the nail salon. Family members shared these words with 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: us from a gofund me page they've set up. Family 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: members write, quote, we miss her very much and will 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: always hold her dear in our hearts and memories. And 44 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: although she suffered for the sake of her family, we 45 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: hope she knows that she is loved by many. You're 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: hearing our friends at ksn VTV. That's Max Darrow reporting 47 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: on a murder that has shocked the community. How many 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: times have you walked into your nail salon not thought 49 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: twice about it? Okay? How many times have you dropped 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: your wife or daughter there? How many times have I 51 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: taken my little Lucy as a treat to the salon? 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: But when this salon worker was doing her job, going 53 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: about her business, she ran in to Crystal Whipple and 54 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: her life ended. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. 55 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. I'm not going to 56 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: rest until this woman answers to Lady Justice joining me 57 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: la psycho analyst, doctor Bethany Marshall, Karen Smith, forensic's expert, 58 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Kenya Johnson, Atlanta prosecutor. Right now to Crime online dot 59 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter John Lemley John, I can't take it in. 60 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: Who is this Crystal Whipple? She is a woman that 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: just stopped in a few days after Christmas to get 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: a thirty five dollar manicure. The situation seemed so simple 63 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: the victim at the center of this knock when she 64 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: told people, my name is hard to pronounce, so just 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: call me Annie. She was a dear friend for not 66 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: only you know, family and other friends, but also her clients. 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: They turned to her not only when they needed their 68 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: their their hands and feet to look nice, but also 69 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: she gave them a lending ear. She would listen to 70 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: them talk about their problems or or maybe you know, 71 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: their joys as well. She was a hard working single 72 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: mom of three girls. Who who whoa whoa right there, 73 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: right there, a single mom of three teen girls. I'm 74 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: looking at Jackie right now, who brought her son up 75 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: largely alone. I've got twins boy girl age eleven. Can 76 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: you imagine a single mom with three teen girls. To 77 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: my longtime friend and colleague, doctor Bethany Marshall joining me 78 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: out of La renowned LA psychoanalyst, Doctor Bethany, We've been 79 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: through a lot together and you know what I went 80 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: through to have the twins and raise them right, I'm 81 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: still trying every single day to do the right thing 82 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: all day, every day, Doctor Bethany, I cannot. I think 83 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: I might just break down in tears right now. A 84 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: single mom raising three teen girls. How hard is that? Teens, 85 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: especially Nancy. I actually had a memory about you the 86 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: other day, which just about a week ago. I was 87 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: thinking about when I went to New York City and 88 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: I was on the set of I Think it was 89 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: True TV and you wrote something on a piece of 90 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: paper and you scribbled it down, and you shoved it 91 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: across the the anchor desk at me, and it said, 92 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm pregnant with twins exclamation mark, And you wanted me 93 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: to know, and nobody else knew, and you couldn't say 94 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: it because you were miked up, and nobody knew. And 95 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: I was so blown away and honored that you let 96 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: me know, and the look of excitement on your face. 97 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that a week ago, and 98 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: then when I was reading about this manicurist. One of 99 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: the things that her family and friends said is that 100 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: she never kept a gift for herself. She always passed 101 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: gifts along to her daughters because everything she did was 102 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: for them. She wanted to send them to school, she 103 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that they got their college educations. 104 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: And she was a manicurist, so that thirty five dollars 105 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: fee that this perpetrator ran out the door and didn't pay. 106 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: You know, some of us might think, well, why you 107 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: lose your life over thirty five dollars, Well, thirty five 108 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: dollars meant a lot to this person because she was 109 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: single and raising three girls. And it's so tragic that 110 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: this perpetrator came in and exploited the life and heart 111 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: of a mom. I mean, that is just so tragic, 112 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's what you were asking about and 113 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: trying to point to. It's just it's a bedrock of 114 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: this story and it's so sad. Bethany. I'm just I 115 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: remember that moment, by the way. I remember it like 116 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I see yesterdays then court TV. And I was keeping 117 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: the twins a secret because I didn't want the world 118 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: to know because they had already told me that, you know, 119 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: there's such a strong risk that I would miss Carrie, 120 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and it's a very high risk. I just didn't want to. 121 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Jink said, I know that's superstitious, but you know, once 122 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: they came along, that's been everything to me. And I'm 123 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: thinking about this mom working these very very long hours, 124 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: very long hours and just doing anything and everything. Twelve 125 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: and fourteen hours a day. That's how that's how long 126 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: her hours were, just so she could support her three girls. 127 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm very overcome. I just got to tell you that 128 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: right now. John Limley, crime online dot Com investigative reporter. 129 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: That's if you haven't been a crime online go I 130 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: look at it first thing, every morning and throughout the 131 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: day to know what's going on. This story and all 132 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: other breaking crime news is at crime online dot Com, 133 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: also with me renown forensics expert Kieren Smith and Atlanta 134 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Prosecutor Kenya Johnson. I got a lot of questions for you, ladies, 135 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: John Limley, I want to go back to what went wrong? 136 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: How did this mother of three girls end up being 137 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: dragged to her death in the parking lot. As we've mentioned, 138 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: this was the Saturday right after Christmas and Annie and 139 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: her longtime partner, this is partner in two senses, both 140 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: in business and in life, Sonny Chung was a co 141 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: manager and also her boyfriend for thirteen years. They were 142 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: at work at the nail salon Crystal Nails and Spa 143 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas's West Valley. They had quite a number 144 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: of customers that day. I know exactly where that is, 145 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: David and I you remember this, John, We took everybody 146 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: remembers this. Poor Alan and Jackie. We took the twins 147 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: on an RV trip and we started. We started in 148 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: Phoenix and we went all the way to San Francisco, 149 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: and we stopped in Vegas. Okay, in Vegas, of course, 150 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: we went to shows. We went to go see David 151 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Copperfield because my son's obsessed with magic. And we went 152 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: on a helicopter ride and we went to the Grand 153 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: Canyon Blah blah. I know exactly where you're talking about. 154 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: It's a very very popular nail salon. Okay, so she's 155 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: in there, but you still haven't told me. How does 156 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: she get dragged across the parking a lot, John Lemley, Well, 157 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: late that afternoon, this young woman comes in asks for 158 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: the thirty five dollars manage crystal whipple. Crystal Whipple. After 159 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: her nails are done, she hands over a credit card 160 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: which is declined time after time after time, and at 161 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: some point she says something something to the effect of, 162 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: no big deal, I have cash in the car. I'll 163 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: be right back. Well, this is far from the first 164 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: time that this has happened at the salon, so no 165 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: one really thinks anything about it until Annie and Sonny 166 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: notice that not only has the woman gotten into her car, 167 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: but she's beginning to back out of the parking space 168 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: and is starting to drive away. This is when Annie 169 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: and Sonny dash out the door try to get the 170 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: woman's attention. In the surveillance video, you can see Annie 171 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: run in front of the car to stop the woman, 172 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: but that is a fatal mistake. I'm Lieutenant Ray Spencer 173 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Homicide Section. I'm 174 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: coming to you today with a plea for assistance in 175 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: solving a recent case involving the death of a local 176 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: woman outside a nail salon. The salon is located in 177 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: a shopping center at Flamingo Indicator. The incident occurred on Saturday, 178 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: December twenty ninth, at approximately three forty five in the afternoon. 179 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: Our investigation determined that a woman went into Crystal Nails, 180 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: got a manicure, and then attempted to pay with a 181 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: fraudulent credit card. When the credit card payment didn't go through, 182 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: the customer said that she would get cash from her car. 183 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: The salon owners noticed that the customer was starting to 184 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: drive away and ran out to stop her. The female 185 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: owner jumped in front of the suspect's vehicle while her 186 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: husband was at the back of the car, at which 187 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: time the suspect accelerated through the parking lot. The female 188 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: in front of the car was thrown under the vehicle 189 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: and later died at umc our investigation has identified the 190 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: suspect as twenty one year old Crystal Whipple, seen here 191 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: in a recent booking photo. Please take a close look 192 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: at the photo. It is important that we get this 193 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: suspect into custody, as the victim's family in this community 194 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: deserve to have her answer for this horrible crime. We 195 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: are asking the public if you have knowledge of Whipple's 196 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: whereabouts or you have any information about this case, to 197 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: please contact the LVMPD Homicide Section. In addition, we want 198 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: to remind the public that if there is ever a 199 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: dispute over payment, to please contact the police and do 200 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: not attempt to confront or apprehend someone. Oh my stars, 201 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: I can hardly take in what has happened to this 202 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: mom of three. She's been raising her children, three girls 203 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: alone single mom. Now she's been dragged to her death 204 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: outside the nail salon where she worked up to fourteen 205 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: hours a day to support the three girls. And right 206 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: now on the lamb, still at large the woman who 207 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: dragged her to her death over a thirty five dollar 208 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: manicure or crystal whipple. Now you may notice how low 209 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: key those last two reporters are. That's because they're not reported. 210 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: They're cops, and they're trying to stay official and calm. 211 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: But you know, I want to go out to you, 212 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Karen Smith, forensics expert. For a person to be dragged 213 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: to their death, that is a horrible, horrible death. Her 214 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: clothes or something must have been caught up in the tire. 215 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: I don't know what, because certainly she would have let go. 216 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: She was dragged across that asphalt parking lot to her death. 217 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: And I've looked at the video, Karen, and I every 218 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: time I stop, I have to stop the video because 219 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: I know that lady knock Annie, and Annie is suffering 220 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: excruciating pain, excruciating pain to be dragged to her death, 221 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: and all over a thirty five dollar manicure. I mean, Karen, 222 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: what does a person live through to be dragged to 223 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: their death. Well, you know, it's it's it's difficult to 224 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: talk about. You know, the official cause of death was 225 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: multiple blunt force injuries, and that's not surprising considering what happened. 226 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: I watched the video as well. And you know what, Nancy, 227 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: when you have these cases, you know, sometimes you fall 228 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: into a routine, but when you get a case like this, 229 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: it hits you really hard when you're an investigator. And 230 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that Las Vegas Metro is doing 231 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: everything they can to bring this Crystal Whipple person to justice. 232 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, when you have something like 233 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: this and you see it at the scene, you have 234 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: to distance yourself at the time. But I can guarantee 235 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: you that every single investigator that worked that crime took 236 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: it home with them that night, and that's going to 237 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: stick with them for a long long time. I'm just 238 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: just sick about it. I don't know why this case, 239 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany, is hitting me so hard. I don't know 240 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: if it's because I think about the sacrifice that Annie 241 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: went through her whole life, if raising these girls all 242 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: by herself, trying to send them to college on a 243 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: manicurist salary, working those long hours and now this or 244 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: the fact that this woman was so callous over thirty 245 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: five dollars for Pete's sake, and now she's still at large. 246 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: She won't turn herself in as a matter of fact. 247 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: Listen to her family. The urgent manhunt for Crystal Whipple continues. 248 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: Police say Whipple killed fifty one year old Knockwinn while 249 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: trying to flee a nail salon's parking lot without paying 250 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: for a thirty five dollar manicure. It's tragic, this is tragic. 251 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: Her mother and grandmother desperately urging her to come out 252 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: of hiding. You can't run, baby, You cannot run. You 253 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: have to come forward, baby. Police say Whipple left the 254 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: salon after her credit card was declined, the twenty one 255 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: year old allegedly telling staff she was going to get 256 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: cash from her car, but instead, authorities say she fled. 257 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: The suspect's family now offering this emotional apology. I'm so 258 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: sorry that you lost your mom and I couldn't imagine 259 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: how you feel, and I hope that you find it 260 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: in your heart to forgive my daughter and my family. Guys, 261 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: you are hearing our friends at ABC on GMA and 262 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: they're talking to Crystal Whipple's mother and grandmother, and they 263 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: are speaking out to Crystal Whipple, asking her to turn 264 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: herself in and for forgiveness. But how can there be 265 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: forgiveness when she hasn't even turned herself in yet. Joining 266 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: me right now, veteran Atlanta prosecutor Kenya Johnson, Kenya, my 267 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: question to you is, many people would consider this a 268 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,479 Speaker 1: vehicular homicide, Okay, and I get that usually vehicular homicides 269 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: are in connection with DUIs, but okay, but in this case, 270 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: the fact that she dragged her for such a distance, 271 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: in my mind, may up this to murder one and also, 272 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Kenyan Johnson, another theory is that this is a robbery 273 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: or at least a theft of services. If that goes 274 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: into a felony category and a death occurs, that's felony murder. Kenya, Absolutely, Nancy, 275 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: and this is an intentional killing. While it wasn't premeditated 276 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: or planned, it was due to Whipple's dangerous conducts and 277 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: her obvious lack of concern for human life. And also 278 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: this is part of a crime spree. We're talking about 279 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: the theft of services. She was driving a stolen car, 280 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: hit and run we don't even know whether the credit 281 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: card that eventually came back. Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 282 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: you just it's like drinking out of a fire hydrant. 283 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: Kenyan Johnson, Atlanta Prosecute. Hold on, let me back it up, 284 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: John Lemley, let me ask you a couple of the 285 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: facts that Kenyan Johnson just brought up. Number one, hit 286 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: and run? Did she hit Annie? Did she hit her? 287 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: Or did Annie get caught up in the car chasing 288 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: the car? Which one? Is it a hit and run? 289 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Or no, it is a hidden and run, because well 290 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: that's a felony right there. I thought somehow I didn't 291 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: understand how Annie was dried because I wouldn't let myself 292 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: watch the whole video. And that's another thing, Kenya, Karen 293 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: and doctor Bethany. It's, as you know, is so hard 294 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a prosecutor, because you cannot turn away from 295 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: the evidence, no matter how difficult it is, no matter 296 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: how difficult it is to look, you know, squarely at 297 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: the evidence. And in this case, every time I watch 298 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: the video, I turn away because I don't want to 299 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: see Annie killed. But you're telling me, John Linley, she 300 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: hit her Annie? Was she just caught up in the 301 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: tires she actually hit her. One of the last things 302 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: you see with Annie in the surveillance video is Annie 303 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: putting her hands on the hood of the car, and 304 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: the next thing, you can't see Annie at all because 305 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: the woman has accelerated at high speed. Even her family 306 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: says they don't know where she is. She's just scared 307 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: right now. I'm sure she's scared. Speaking exclusively the ABC News, 308 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: they say they have not been able to reach her 309 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: and hope that when she sees this interview that she 310 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: will come forward. You can't rub a baby, you cannot run. 311 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: Crystal Whipple is being sought for striking and killing an 312 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: employee while fleeing from a Las Vegas nail salon without 313 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: paying for her thirty five dollar manicure. Surveillance video shows 314 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: the manicurist and her boyfriend chasing after the car when 315 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: she accelerates and hits the woman, dragging her violently through 316 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: the parking lot. The manicurist knock win If, fifty one 317 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: year old, the mother of three, died at the hospital. 318 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: Whipple's tearful grandmother is convinced it was all an accident. 319 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: I know you didn't mean to kill the person. We 320 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: know you, We know you will never do anything like that. Crystal, 321 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: Please come forth. We need you to come forth and 322 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: stand up who went on and tell your side of 323 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: the story of what happened to Las Vegas. Metro Police 324 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: say they continue to pour an to ordinary amount of 325 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: resources into the search to bring Whipple to justice. We're 326 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: hearing our friends at ABC and they were speaking with 327 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: Crystal Whipple's family right now. Crystal Whipple at large. The 328 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: hunt for her is on. If you have information, dial 329 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: nine O nine four nine Crime nine O nine four 330 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: nine two seven four sixty three. That's us here at 331 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: Crime Stories and Crime online dot Com. I want to 332 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: go back to Kenya Johnson, Atlanta prosecutor joining us along 333 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: with Karen Smith, forensics expert, doctor Bethany Marshall, and John 334 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: Limley Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Kenya Johnson, you 335 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: really unleash a lot of legal theories at once. Number one, 336 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: it is a hit and run. We don't have to 337 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: do a backband in order to come up with a felony. 338 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: That is a felony. But this woman has a history. 339 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: In fact, as you mentioned correctly, she was in a 340 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: stolen rental car at the time. She did this, absolutely, 341 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: and all of that information will come out in her 342 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: subsequent prosecution. That video is going to be very telling 343 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: and very hard for the jury to watch, but they 344 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: will see with their own eyes that her co workers 345 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: and family ran out. Everyone was screaming, there was a 346 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: big commotion, and Whipple kept driving. She didn't stop. Then 347 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: she abandoned the vehicle afterward, and now she's on the run. 348 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: So her actions before using the fake card or the 349 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: cards that wouldn't pay, and then saying she's going out 350 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: to her car, the fact that she ran over this victim, 351 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: and the fact that she fled afterward, would all come 352 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: out to show a continuing climb spree and goes towards 353 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: her either premeditation or her intense to hurt someone in 354 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: committed climes that day. Wow, you know, Karen Smith forensically speaking, 355 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: which is hard for me to do right now because 356 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm so disturbed about what happened to Annie and about 357 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: her three girls. The video, you know, there are a 358 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: lot of legal hoops, believe it or not, that you 359 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: have to jump through in order to get a video 360 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: ad minute into evidence. But tell me after you have 361 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: an analyzed the video forensically what you see, Karen Smith, 362 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: and how can it be used. Well, you can only 363 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: see the back of Crystal Whipple coming out of the salon. 364 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that there was interior video running at 365 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: the time. I haven't seen that, but that's a possibility. 366 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: But you do clearly see the car that she's driving. 367 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: You see her get into the car, you see her 368 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: back out of the parking space, and then you see 369 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: the subsequent events. Again, like the attorney said, it's going 370 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: to be very difficult for the jury to watch. But 371 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: forensically speaking, once they found the car at the apartment complex, 372 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: that was the key to unlocking the actual identity of 373 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Crystal Whipple. I'm sure that they got some pretty good 374 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: latent prints off of that car, ran them through the 375 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: APHIS system and that was the hit because she had 376 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: been arrested prior, her fingerprints were in the system and 377 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: that's how they found out who she was. All you 378 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: could see with the back of her head. There was 379 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: no facial identification in that video, so it took some 380 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: good forensic work to get an ident. John Limley Crime 381 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter Kristal Whipple is still on 382 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: the run. Are you kidding me? Number One, she's in 383 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: a stolen rental car. They can't find that. Well, she 384 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: actually ditched that at some point police found that. Well, 385 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: that was smart on her part, but I'm not giving 386 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: her a gold star, John Lemley Exactly. That car was 387 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: a rental card that at some point she acquired. Police 388 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: have not released that information to us yet. Now, police 389 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: have said that Whipple was arrested last spring on multiple warrants, 390 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: including for failing to show up in court for several 391 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: traffic related citations. A second warrant was issued in connection 392 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: with a twenty sixteen case in which Whipple pleaded guilty 393 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: to attempting to possess a stolen vehicle. She later received 394 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: probation in that case, but she failed to show up 395 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: in court ultimately saw her probation revoked before being sentenced 396 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: to four months in jail. You know, it never ends 397 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: with this woman. The family grieving the case up in 398 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: the air because Crystal Whipple is still on the run. 399 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: The three daughters of Annie Gin beside themselves. A makeshift 400 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: memorial has been erected there at the salon. The salon 401 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: is closed. This has destroyed these three girls lives forever, forever. 402 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: There's got to be a trail. She may have ditched 403 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: her stolen mental car, but doctor Bethany Marshall, there is 404 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: a trail. People like Crystal Whipple can't help but make 405 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: themselves known. Explain, no, they cannot. The reason for that, 406 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: Nancy is I think Crystal Whipple falls into what we 407 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: call a cluster B personality. Cluster B is when you 408 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: have several disorders at once. One might be bipolar illness. 409 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: Whenever a patient comes to my office with multiple traffic 410 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: incidents like tickets, du eyes, I always assess for bipolar 411 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: because that causes excessive energy, impulsivity, sometimes callousness. They have 412 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: rage attacks on the road. And then what clusters, what 413 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: part of cluster be is bipolar and then another personality 414 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: disorder called antisocial personality disorder. And with antisocial you get 415 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: failure to pay back debts to society, so that's like 416 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: not wanting to pay for her bill in the salon. 417 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: You get lying, conning, manipulativeness, so that's walking out of 418 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: the salon saying she's going to pay the bill and 419 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: then she's not. And then you get that same type 420 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: of impulsivity that you get with bipolar disorder, and I 421 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: imagine that's stepping on the gas, running over the manicurist. 422 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: Although there's a callous aspect, there's a very impulsive aspect 423 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: to this too. I mean, I'm sure that this perpetrator 424 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 1: doesn't really think much about anything she's doing. She's just 425 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: one big ID. You know, she's just running all over 426 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: the place, you know, taking cards, taking cars, getting service. 427 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: What do you mean by one big ID? I as 428 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: in Indiana, d as in dutiful. I haven't heard the 429 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: word ID since I had to take a psychology class 430 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: in college. Go ahead, explain. Freud had the idea of 431 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: the ID, the ego, and the super ego. Our ID 432 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: is our childlike part that just runs on the pleasure principle, 433 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: just runs the muck and does whatever we want to do. 434 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: The ego is like the adults that's in control. And 435 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: the super ego is our conscience, the one that the 436 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: breaking system in the brain, the part of us that 437 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: puts the brakes on bad behavior. This girl is just 438 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: running on the pleasure principle. She's doing whatever she wants 439 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: without thinking about anyone around her. I'm thinking about any 440 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: the mother who always put her children before herself, the 441 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: mother of three girls, who had worked seven days a week, 442 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: seven days a week. She had been constantly putting in 443 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: twelve to fourteen hours, seven days a week to send 444 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: her three daughters to college, to support her own mother, 445 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: her siblings, allowing them to have more opportunity in life. 446 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: She would even skip eating all day until after hours 447 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: so she would not miss a single client, so her children, 448 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: her girls would not have to work as hard as 449 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: she did. She would never buy anything for herself. I 450 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: think a lot of mothers can identify with that, and 451 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: as John Linley was telling us, whenever she would get 452 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: a gift, she would pass it on to her daughters 453 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: rather than keeping it for herself. She never asked for 454 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: anything in return. Every penny she made went toward her family. 455 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: Then hell Salon has posted we have lost a selfless soul. 456 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: We miss her, We hold her dear in our hearts, 457 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: even in the end being selfless being an organ donor. 458 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to our friend 459 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: at kat NV my Societa speak in two Annie's daughters. 460 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: It's probably going to affect us every day for most 461 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: of our lives. And Trent is the oldest sibling the 462 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: three sisters are leaning on each other like never before. 463 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: When you look closely at each of their faces and 464 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: Anna and Christie, you can see the resemblance to their mom. 465 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: Knock you nu gen. If God felt that it is 466 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: time for my mom to go, then it's time for 467 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: her to go. You know, it's all in God's hand, 468 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: is on God's will, and is nothing we can do 469 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: or say to change that. 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Friends of 494 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: thirty six year old and Hendred Davis hit the streets 495 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: knocking on doors and looking for anything that might help 496 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: them find her. I'm concerned about my daughter. I'm hoping 497 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: that she's some West safe Mirinda Knox along with relatives 498 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: and friends or walking the streets with flyers in hand, 499 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: knocking on doors and stopping cars in the sixty ninth 500 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: Avenue and Scenic Highway area a bad room at neighbors 501 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: and people anyone we seen, Have they seen her? Have 502 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: they saw anything? They're looking for a Knox's daughter, thirty 503 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: six year old Hahndra Davis, a Baker. She was last 504 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: seen on December twenty seventh, her birthday, when she dropped 505 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: off her children at her mother's house. I just don't 506 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: believe in my heart that she would just walk away 507 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: and no one knowing anything. Where is this beautiful mom? 508 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: A Baker woman missing last scene dropping off her two 509 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: children at her mother's home on her birthday. This is 510 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: according to Baker PD Baker Police Department. Nihandra Davis is 511 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: thirty five of Baker. Last scene in December twenty seven, 512 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: around four forty five pm in broad Delight. She dropped 513 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: the children off there and the Glen Oaks area of 514 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: Baton Rouge left home. She was driving a white Dodge Challenger. 515 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: Don't know exactly where she was heading where she left, 516 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: but her Dodge Challenger was found abandoned on Scening Highway 517 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: in seventy second av N Baker. Just beautiful. She has 518 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: a smile that lights up her room or teeth are 519 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: absolutely perfect. I'm looking at a big smile of hers 520 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: right now. She's five to three to five five. She 521 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: weighs about one hundred forty two one hundred and fifty. 522 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: If you have information, please dial two two five seven 523 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: seven five six thousand. Repeat two two five seven seventy 524 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: five six thousand. Right now, police begging for help to 525 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: find the Hantre Davis straight out to Alan Duke joining 526 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: me in La. Who's all over the story? Alan, you're 527 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: familiar with the Baker area. Explain? Yeah, well I go 528 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: there for family funerals and that sort of thing. My 529 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: wife is from Baker. It is not a really thriving area. 530 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Let's just say a suburb of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. I mean, 531 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: nothing has been thriving there since Hurricane Katrina. So let 532 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: me ask you a question about Baker. You're saying it's 533 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: rural or suburban. It's suburban. It's These are subdivisions and 534 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: they're probably the nicer ones were built maybe in the seventies. 535 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: To ask You Wilcot juvenile judge and lawyer at ask 536 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: you Wilcot dot com. This is what's sticking out to me. 537 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: No way with this mom. Just leave those two children. 538 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: She made two very careful pains to get them safely 539 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: to her mother's. I think she was going out to 540 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: dinner for her birthday. That's what I think she was doing. 541 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: It was her birthday, hone's birthday. No way would she 542 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: just leave them. They lived with her, She's the primary caregiver. 543 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: She leaves them at her mom so she can go 544 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: out on her birthday and bam you find her white 545 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: challenger abandoned. Yeah, so let's be honest, Nancy. Oftentimes the 546 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: clue that leads us to understand something nefarious bad has 547 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: happened is when a mother leaves her children, takes care 548 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: of her children, does something safely with them, and then boom, 549 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: the mother disappears. Mother don't disappear, take off and leave 550 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,479 Speaker 1: their children generally, So I agree with you. You know, 551 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: to Karen Start, your psychologists joining us. You can find 552 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: her at karen Start dot com Karen Start. This goes 553 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: against everything we know about in Hanja Fe Davis. That's true, Nancy. 554 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: She's exactly what everyone is saying. She was a wonderful mother, 555 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: she cared about her children, she was dropping them off. 556 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: There is that there's no history of her doing anything 557 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: that would lead to her just vanishing without a trace. 558 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: So back to you, Alan Duke, who all you seem 559 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: to want to talk about is that there's a rundown 560 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: area of town. I mean, Alan, you and your posh 561 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: penthouse pad in LA. You're trying to tell me there's 562 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: not a rundown area of La. Oh yeah, just in 563 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: my backyard. But no, you know, I don't want to 564 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: make my in laws upset by saying that. But well, 565 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: why do you keep saying it? What does that have 566 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: to do with anything? Well, anyway, another feature of Baker 567 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: is it rains there a lot, you know, in the 568 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: in Louisiana. How how moist it is? Well, where they 569 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: found her Dodge Challenger, the white Dodge Challenger, the same 570 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: evening that she was reported disappeared. It was in a 571 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: flooded area. She had driven or somebody had put the 572 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: car underwater. It wasn't in a lake or upon. It 573 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: was just in a flooded area. And this is what's 574 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: really disturbing is her keys, her pocket book with cash 575 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: in it, and other things that she would take with 576 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: her were still inside that Challenger. Well, I doubt, very seriously, 577 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, just common sense, as she will caught that 578 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: a mom would drive her car straight into a flooded area. 579 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: That means to me that a car has been sitting 580 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: there and then it flooded That's what I think too, 581 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: because again we stand you know, I stand by generally 582 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: most mothers are going to first and foremost care for 583 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: their children, come back to their children. And so if 584 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: it were there and then the floodshead, that makes the 585 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: most sense in the scenario based on what we know. 586 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: Straight back to Alan Duke, explain to me one more 587 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: time what happened the day she was last seeing guys. 588 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us, we're talking about 589 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: a beautiful young mom, Hondrefe Davis. She went missing in 590 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: Baker that's not too far from Baton Rouge in Louisiana. 591 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: Tip line two to five seven seven five six thousand, 592 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: Repeat two to five seven seven five six thousand. Tell 593 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: me again. I want to hear those facts one more time. 594 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Alan dropped her kids off at four forty five in 595 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: the afternoon because apparently they think she was going out, 596 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: but they're not sure really where she was heading. So 597 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: she dropped them off at her mother's house at four 598 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: forty five in the evening in the Glen Oaks area 599 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: of Baton Rouge, and then she disappeared. Later they found 600 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: her car partially submerged. Her nickname is Ninny I want 601 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: you to take a listen to our friends at WAFB TV. 602 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: It's reporter Edward Phelps. What we know right now is Njandra, 603 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: a Baker woman, missing lasting dropping off for two children 604 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: at her own mother's home. And this is according to 605 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: the Baker Police Department. I wish you could see her 606 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 1: photo right now. Beautiful smile, big brown eyes, just staring 607 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: at the camera as if she's looking at the whole 608 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: beautiful world before her. Let me give you this tip 609 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: line again. Two two five seven seven, five six thousand. 610 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at WAFB TV. It 611 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: was just two fifteen. White Dog's Challenger was found a 612 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: bannon on Sitting Highway near sixty ninth Avenue the same 613 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: day she went missing. The car was caught in high 614 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: water and flooded. When Davis's car was found here on 615 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: Sitting Highway, the keys were still inside of it, along 616 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: with her purse that had cash and credit cards not touched. 617 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: The family didn't find out the car had been told 618 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: until Friday, eight days after Davis disappeared, leaving behind a 619 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: thirteen year old daughter and six year old son. But 620 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: that gives me some kind of hope that she's somewhere 621 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: around and by the grace of God, we're hoping to 622 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: find her. Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,