1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Joining us right now Texans Radio. It's Texans general manager 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Nick Kissario. Nick, thanks so much for joining us. As always, 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: we appreciate it. So the trade deadline coming gone, and 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: I know a lot of activity leading up to it, 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: probably a lot of conversations. The things we don't see 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: that's got to be really interesting. I know you can't 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: get into that, but you did make some moves in 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: the last week. Yeah, we did. And it's a good 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: point that you brought up. There was actually some trades 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: that almost came to fruition kind of within the last 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: sixty minutes. So we were having discussions with a team 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: and we had kind of agreed. This isn't specific to 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: the Shawn's situation, but this was another situation that came up. 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: We were discussing a player and we had parameters in place, 15 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: and we sort of agreed on the trade, and they 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: came back and said, oh, actually we've had a change 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: and personnel all the players injured, so we're gonna keep 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: the player. Okay, no problem. So again, like those are 19 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: some of things to your point, Mark that happened. So 20 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: we again we probably talked to the majority of the league, 21 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: not every team, but pretty close just about different players 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and their availability and who may or may not be available. 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: We executed a few trades of a past few weeks 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: with the Ingram trade and the amount of who trade 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: here yesterday, So that's kind of where we are here 26 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: for today. So I think there's sometimes a lot of 27 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: bluster around the trade deadline, Buddy, not as much as 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: a draft John's favorite, but there's a lot of discussion 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: about it. In the end, there was i I want 30 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: to say, four or five transactions that took place yesterday. 31 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: You brought up something in your press conference though. It 32 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: was interesting. You said that you're and your personnel staff 33 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: something somebody tries to make contact with everybody throughout the 34 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: league just to have a conversation, And I thought it 35 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: was interesting. Can you expand upon that about what just 36 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: knowledge you're looking for, just information you're trying to take 37 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: in and the fact that you do talk to every 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: single team in the league. Yeah, it's a great question 39 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: when you're evaluating a team. So when you're watching a team, 40 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: you're obviously creating a inventory of players and strengths, weaknesses, 41 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: and in the back of your mind, well, is this 42 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: player available by wonder fees available? So what we try 43 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: to do is just and we'll communicate with anybody. This 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: isn't well specific to the NFC, like we'll talk to 45 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: every team. I've actually had a couple conversation with a 46 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Balky down in Jacksonville at different points as well, I 47 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: saying sometimes there's always that belief, well, you will never 48 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: do anything inside the division, and that whole Like, we're 49 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: pretty open mind, we're pretty flexible, and if there's something 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: that we can do that we feel can help our team, 51 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: regardless of who the opposition is, then we'll pursue. So 52 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: a lot of it is information gathering and you're just 53 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: trying to put something in place, and you might trigger 54 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: some say hey, you know what this probably you might 55 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: be available, or they just acquired this player, or they 56 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: just added this player through waivers. Maybe this player is available, 57 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: this player is an expiring contract. Maybe it's something they're 58 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: trying to move on from now. Is it's somebody that 59 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: can help your team. So a lot of it is 60 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: just accumulating information and making a decision or if there's 61 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: somebody or something that we can do relative to your 62 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: team that might be able to help in some capacity. Well, 63 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: you mentioned with DeShawn no deal, and you go day 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: to day with this. So moving on into the rest 65 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: of the season, you mentioned every week you're just going 66 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: to approach it best chance to win, do whatever it 67 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: takes to get that win. It's almost like every week's 68 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: a Bowl game for you, because no matter what the 69 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: record is, you're trying to get that done and no 70 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: matter who's on the that's the truth, Mark, That's the 71 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: way the NFL is designed. I'd say the unique thing 72 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: about the NFL you have this year's seventeen opportunities. So 73 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: you have one opportunity seventeen weeks or eighteen weeks to 74 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: go out there and perform to the best of your ability. 75 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: This isn't like other sports where there's more a volume 76 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: of game, Like if you win two out of three 77 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: series in baseball, you're going to be thrilled. I mean, 78 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna be happy about how that went. Basketball plays 79 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: eighty two games or every many games. We have seventeen 80 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: chances to go out there each week, so it just 81 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: magnifies the importance of doing everything you can possibly that 82 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: week to prepare and regardless of the circumstance or what 83 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: happened the previous week, you can't spend too much time 84 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: on it good or bad, because in a lot of 85 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: respects it's not going to have a lot of bearing 86 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: on what happens that following week. How difficult, Nick, is 87 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: it to take your personal emotion out of any particular 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: deal or move or anything that you make. And I 89 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: think about mark Ingram because you talked about at the 90 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: podium about how the tough that was because of what 91 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: he meant to the team. But it was the Saints 92 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: that called, and so your motion probably says, man, I 93 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: really want him to be a Texan, but man, the Saints. 94 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: How difficult is it to take a motion out of 95 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: the whole deal? It's a great point. I think you 96 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: have to take emotion out of a lot of decision making. 97 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: You have to be very rational, you have to be 98 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: very thoughtful, you have to be very pragmatic and just 99 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: go through your decision making process and arrive at at 100 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: endpoint whatever that is. So in Mark's situation, I think 101 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: the great thing about that we were very honest with 102 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: him about the circumstance. David had reached out to him 103 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: to kind of the night before and they had a conversation. 104 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: We met the following day, and we just talked face 105 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to face, and we've talked about this at different points 106 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: throughout the year. Football it's played on the field, but 107 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: it's still a people business. So the best thing you 108 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: can do is just be honest and be very forthright 109 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: and communicate transparently and provide the information where you see fit. 110 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: And Mark's an unbelievable human being. He's been a great 111 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: player for a long time. He's been a great player 112 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: for their franchise, for the Saints for a long time. 113 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: In the end, would we rather head Mark continue with us? 114 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean probably, But the way it worked out, I 115 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: think it was the right thing for everybody involved. You 116 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: were asked about Davis during your press conference and how 117 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: difficult is it to evaluate what he can and can't 118 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: do when you are struggling running the football and some 119 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: of the other issues on offense, you have injuries on 120 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: the old line and that sort of thing. Yeah, you 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: have to just look at the individual player, his performance 122 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: and some of the things maybe that he can control 123 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: some of the skills that are specific to the quarterback position. 124 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: So the quarterback, every player on the field depends on 125 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: another person around them. So the offensive line can't do 126 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: they're depending on the guy in the next to them, 127 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: So the garden center, they need each other. In the 128 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: double teams, the quarterback have to make sure the tight 129 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: end does the right thing, and a receiver can't do 130 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: his job unless you know, you know, everybody has to 131 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: do their job and everybody has a responsibility, So you 132 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: focus on your individual skill. What have you done? Did 133 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: you do the right thing on the play? Do you 134 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: make the right decision? And we were able to execute 135 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: it from a physical standpoint, and there's examples of I 136 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: would say specifically him doing that and other examples were 137 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: quite frankly that hadn't been the case. You know, the 138 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: interception is a player that he would probably want to 139 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: have back. I mean, it wasn't sound football, wasn't good decision, 140 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: and that's something hopefully if you get into a situation 141 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: like that, the next time, you make the right decision. 142 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: N the mechanics of moving Charles to the forty nine ers, 143 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: what does that mean for you guys? Does that mean 144 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: for him go forward? Yeah, it's it'll be a good 145 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: opportunity for him. You know, he's a player that had 146 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: some front flux six to kind of three. You know, 147 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: we've been playing the number of different players at that position, 148 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: so it's just going to present more opportunities for some 149 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: other players. You know, Charles is going to a good system, 150 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: a good defense. I think what he does will fit them, 151 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, fairly well. And they were interested. I would 152 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: say there was actually some other interest in him, you know, 153 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: from some other teams as well. So you know that's 154 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: going to your question earlier. Mark, You just kind of 155 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: stored through everything and just try to take the information 156 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: and ultimately make the decision that you feel makes the 157 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: most sense. When you see players around in the league, 158 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: you evaluate everybody who's draftable, so you have whatever grade 159 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: you have, So how do you track what they do 160 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: through their career with another team so you can see 161 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: if you got it right or not. Were we right 162 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: on this guy or wrong even though you didn't pick him. No, 163 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: it's a great question. So I would say, even actually, 164 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: something we're doing here this year, so we have a 165 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: rookie production chart that we, you know, are people in 166 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: our technologies department put together so you can kind of see, 167 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: all right, who's playing, who's doing what, what's their level 168 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: of performance, and then look at the second year. So 169 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: go from the rookie year, their second year, how are 170 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: they playing? How are they performing? Then you go back 171 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: and you can always look at the players that were 172 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: on your team in your program, kind of evaluate their 173 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: performance and just see, Okay, maybe it was a system fit, 174 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: maybe this was better, this player performed better, or maybe 175 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: this player hadn't done as well. What's the reason why, 176 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: or so there's a lot of things that go into that. Actually, 177 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: just looking at the rookie production chart this morning, kind 178 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: of going through it. I mean, I think Roy has 179 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: like the second most playtime of any defensive tackle in 180 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: the league, So you know, he's gone in there and 181 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: kind of held his own. Garrett's got like sixty five 182 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: ish percent playtime in the kicking game, so most linebackers, 183 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: a fair amount of linebackers in this sixty five to 184 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: seventy percent special teams playtime. You know, Davis, we've talked 185 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: about him a little bit. Man. I think he's like 186 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: second in MAC the completion percentage, and you know some 187 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: of the other numbers or metrics are comparable relative to 188 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: rest the quarterbacks. And you know, Nico's probably his production 189 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: has been affected by just his availability. But it's something 190 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: that's important because it's a great point. Mark, So you evaluate, 191 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: you put all this time into a great the player, 192 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: they get drafted, Okay, they're on the other team. Okay, 193 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: how are they doing? And if you just wait until 194 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: the next time you play that team might be three 195 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: or four years. So if you want to be able 196 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: to contrack your performances as a staff, Okay, we had 197 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: this player here, here's what we thought. Okay, here's what 198 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: it looks like. All right, well maybe we missed this. 199 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: Let's go back and evaluate us. So it's a constant 200 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: evaluation of not only the player, but maybe some of 201 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: the things that we're doing. And if we can find 202 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: a way to enhance that, then we'll look at that 203 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Nike out in those lines. Those guys that you mentioned, 204 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned Garrett, Davis, Nico, those guys have all been 205 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: on the field for seven eight weeks. Revin gets on 206 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: the field for the first time on Sunday. First of all, 207 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: what'd you think of what he did in week one 208 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: and what was it that he was doing that led 209 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: him to get on the field. And yeah, it's a 210 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: good question. I'd say he's made some progress in practice. 211 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of it is practice execution, equals game reality. 212 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna if you don't do something in practice, 213 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: you're all of a sudden, like magically gonna wave some 214 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: dust and then you're gonna do it on Sunday. So 215 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: he's practiced well and performed well, and he was put 216 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: in a situation. I mean, Farrell wasn't active, so I 217 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: think that was a part of it too. So Farrell 218 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: wasn't active. So we've been taking three tight ends of 219 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: the game. So he took Brevin in the game and 220 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: he took advantage of some of the opportunities that were presented. 221 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: Now the big thing will be all right moving forward? 222 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: Or do we see a consistent level of performance or 223 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: do you as there's some variability in the player's play right? Well, 224 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: you said in the press conference, not all players in 225 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: this league are equally committed, right, And that's probably pretty obvious, 226 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: But I want to ask you about that because if 227 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: you can determine if a player is fully committed coming 228 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: out or wherever the case, wherever he is in his career, 229 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: and the ability might be, you know, not one potential upside, 230 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: but the commitment is there, how do you evaluate that 231 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,119 Speaker 1: and how valuable is that to you as an organization. 232 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: It's the twenty five million dollar question. So if they 233 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: have the traits and the characteristics that are requisite to 234 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: becoming a successful player, they still they have to have 235 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: a certain level of skill that they can actually go 236 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: out there and perform their job. So if a player 237 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: is coachable, if a player will work hard, if a 238 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: player will improve and he'll make a commitment to being 239 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: a great player, and then combine that with a skill improvement, 240 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: a certain level of skill and continual skill improvement, then 241 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to become a good player. And 242 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: then when you have as many players like that as 243 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: possible on your team, then it's a collective effort. So 244 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: that just enhances the overall performance and the ability of 245 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: your team. So that's ultimately what you're trying to do 246 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: when you build your team, is just to identify those 247 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: players with those traits or characteristics. And it could shrink 248 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: the pool of players because you might eliminate some players. 249 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: And if that's what your philosophy or belief is, then 250 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: you have to be to that and stick to it. 251 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated when you talk about the only TV I 252 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: watches CNBC. It's the only thing I watch or whatever 253 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: it is that you watch by the way, where you 254 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: admnimated park last night? Just okay, anyways, checking when you 255 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: stand at the podium, you know everything that went on 256 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: with the Phoenix Suns. You know exactly what happened with 257 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: the Houston Astros. How much do other sports leagues and 258 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: what are their teams do? How much are you following 259 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: that and then taking mental notes of wait a second, 260 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: I think we could apply that or I think I'd 261 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: like the way they did this. How have you been 262 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: able to kind of track all that and then bring 263 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: it into what you do on a daily basis. It's 264 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: a good question. I think it's really more of an 265 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: appetite for learning and curious and curiosity and seeing. You're 266 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: never gonna paint everything with broad rush and say, Okay, 267 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: this situation is exactly like the Houston Texans. No situation 268 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: is alike. Right. You can look at some of the 269 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: elements and some of the things that they had to 270 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: endure and say, Okay, what were some maybe some things 271 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: that had happen, and what did they get right? What 272 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: did they get wrong? Okay, how did they fix this problem? 273 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: This took a little bit longer? Okay, they allocated time 274 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: and resources to this, so you're just processing a lot 275 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: of information. I think it's just more of an insatiable 276 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: desire to learn and try to grow and improve and 277 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: if there's elements that you can take and apply them 278 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: to your situation. Again, this is specific to the Houston 279 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Texans about what we're trying to do, but it could 280 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: be said X y Z Corporation where you're basically trying 281 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: to start a program or put something newer in place. 282 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: What cryptocurrency do you recommend? Nick, I'm just kidding, Oin Base, Okay, 283 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: you got the answer. It's not about individual, it's not 284 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: about ether Salona. Bitcoin gives you kind of an opportunity 285 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: to exposure to the exchange where all of them trade. 286 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: So Tom gave that guy We're going to have another podcast. 287 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: So Tom gave that guy a bitcoin for the football? 288 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Is that a good move? Tom is very smart about 289 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: everything he does. That might have been the company that 290 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: endorses or that he endorses or whatever. Nick, thanks so 291 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Best to luck this week. Thanks guys, 292 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: appreciate it.