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Speaker 1: Hey, we've got Dodgers catcher Ben Rotbet back on the show.

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Speaker 2: Ben.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back on and wow, things have

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Speaker 1: changed since we last spoke.

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Speaker 2: How is it to be black? And significant time for

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers? Now? What's life like?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? How's it going, guys? Thanks for having me. Life's

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Speaker 3: been fast. Yeah, it's been a long year. Started off

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Speaker 3: kind of a disappointing year. Got you a fade and

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Speaker 3: uh was resetting in Triple A, got traded for was

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Speaker 3: grateful for that opportunity and now here we are? What

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Speaker 3: is that?

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Speaker 4: I went through it plenty of times, didn't play good,

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Speaker 4: got fired, sent down a triple A. Did you feel

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Speaker 4: like there was a chance for you to go back

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Speaker 4: to the big leagues, let alone in another organization or

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Speaker 4: you like you said you went to reset? Was it physical?

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Speaker 4: Was it mental?

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Speaker 3: Was it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think I kind of just got lost and uh,

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Speaker 3: kind of the player I was. I was really excited

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Speaker 3: going to the year, had a good offseason. Kind of

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Speaker 3: in spring, I was working some swing stuff out and

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Speaker 3: I kind of said to myself, you sometimes got to

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Speaker 3: it was kind of a battle not playing all the

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Speaker 3: I thought I did my job catching, but I just

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Speaker 3: I was swinging a lot of balls, so kind of

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Speaker 3: just went down to triple A. And yeah, getting deffaide

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Speaker 3: really really hurt. I love those guys with the rays.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it was good

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Speaker 3: And I wasn't really thinking about where I could have

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Speaker 3: each day, honestly, So just trying to like let the

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Speaker 4: Does it keep you from making another swing change again,

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Speaker 4: because sometimes this is what you have to learn. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're still only twenty seven, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I turned twenty eight in a couple of days here,

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Speaker 3: so I'll roll with twenty seven for a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't keep me from it. I just think

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Speaker 3: I just really need to be convicted. Convicted, and what

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Speaker 3: I'm doing kind of got back to what I was

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Speaker 3: doing last year, and I think I'm in a decent

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Speaker 3: I'm in a spot where I can compete, and that's

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Speaker 3: where I want to do. I mean, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to go out and bang all these homewors back and forth.

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Speaker 3: I want to compete. I want to roll the lineup over.

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Speaker 3: I want to get on base. I want to be

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Speaker 3: a hard out. So I think I'm back to doing that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction when you heard about the news

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Speaker 1: that Will Smith was going to miss significant time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's never like I couldn't really get excited. I

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Speaker 3: was grateful for the opportunity. But Will, you can't replace

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Speaker 3: what Will does on this team. I've said the multiple times.

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Speaker 3: Will is the anchor to the staff. He's the anchor

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Speaker 3: to this lineup. He means so much of the Guyston

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a huge blow for the team,

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Speaker 3: but I mean I'm just trying to kind of bridge

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Speaker 4: So everybody says you can't trade a catcher at the

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Speaker 4: trade deadline because they can't step in, learn a new staff,

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Speaker 4: all that stuff. I've done it, I've lived it. I

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Speaker 4: understand what you have to go through. But I also

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Speaker 4: never joined a team that had a Yamamoto a glass

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Speaker 4: now a Blake Snell to just start it out. How

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Speaker 4: much when you got there did you have to get

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Speaker 4: Did you listen to the organization? Did you say, you

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Speaker 4: know what, I'm actually going to go out and catch

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Speaker 4: a bunch of no hit innings, so I'll take care

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Speaker 4: of this. How much was that like hit the ground

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Speaker 4: running and you got to figure it out on your own.

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Speaker 3: It was running, It was really running. There's no better

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Speaker 3: first like twelve days, I caught eleven of the games,

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Speaker 3: like you got to do your hit, You got to

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Speaker 3: do your research. I mean, I'm going with the guys

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Speaker 3: I'm on my iPad looking at their pitch plops. I'm

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Speaker 3: So my first couple of days, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 3: And trust doesn't Trust is definitely not built quickly. It's

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Speaker 3: still probably honestly isn't there with all the guys. But

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Speaker 3: It goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: What's it like to catch some of these pictures.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know the Dodgers have dealt with injuries,

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Speaker 1: and hey, I mean the whole league's dealing with it,

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Speaker 1: and the talent within, you know, the rotation especially is insane.

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Speaker 1: There's essentially at least four, if not five, number one

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Speaker 2: So what's it like to catch that group?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't take it for granted. It's

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Speaker 3: it's can't miss stuff. I mean, the last thing I

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Speaker 5: Ben, you went from the Rays in Tampa to the

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Speaker 5: Mega Rays in LA. What's what's the major difference? Are

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Speaker 5: they run the same or they handled the same, Because,

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Speaker 5: as I've said for years, the Dodgers of the Rays

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Speaker 5: on Superpowers, right, because they kind of a lot of

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Speaker 5: the same stuff. But is there a difference? Are they similar?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, there's some similarities here and there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: a lot of pitch ability. Snell can move it around.

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Speaker 3: Yamamoto is like a video game. But I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: everyone has really plus stuff raised like throwing their good

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Speaker 3: some similarities. I mean there's some things that they do differently,

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Speaker 4: All right, Is there anything that you brought from any

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Speaker 4: of your previous stops? Minnesota? Not so much, But Aja

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Speaker 4: Have you been able to go come to the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: Is there something that they were like, oh for real, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say anything in particular, but myself just kind

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Speaker 3: I felt good here, I was doing this, or our

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Speaker 3: kind of trends in this direction as overall. One through nine,

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Speaker 1: not being insanely good?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to get into it too much.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys know I haven't been here long.

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Speaker 3: What I see is it's been a long season of

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I really haven't thought about asking guys yet. I've

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ben, last one for you.

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Speaker 1: So today the rules Committee is meeting to discuss the

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Speaker 1: ABS challenge system. It's definitely going to get approved. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll break the news during the show. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 3: It's different, it's different. It kind of takes no it

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Speaker 3: We'll see how it goes and how they're valued catchers

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Speaker 3: We had the challenge, which I think is better than

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Speaker 3: I think it'll take away some value, but at the

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Speaker 1: Great breakdown of it. Yeah, I'm excited from a fan perspective,

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Speaker 3: Hey, ight, for fans, it's got to be fun and

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, exactly, bring an entertainment component to our game.

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Speaker 2: I'm into it.

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Speaker 1: Ben, great, thank you for joining us. Great combo and

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Speaker 1: good luck man. We'll be watching awesome thing you guys.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.