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Speaker 1: How dare they say roller skating is coming back in style?

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Speaker 1: It's never left. It's never left.

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Speaker 2: From futuro media, It's Latino USA. I'm Mariao Hoosam and

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Speaker 2: today skating advocate Anko Yado. She's going to share how

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Speaker 2: her love of roller skating connects her to a legacy

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Speaker 2: of joy, creativity, and community. Over the past year, roller

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Speaker 2: skating has become all the rage. Roller skates became a

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Speaker 2: hot commodity, with many people taking up the sport as

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Speaker 2: a way to blow off steam and spend some time outdoors.

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Speaker 3: During quarantine.

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Speaker 4: I started skating July fourth, twenty twenty, and I was

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Speaker 4: using my mom's like really old rickety Chicago skates that

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Speaker 4: were just in the closet.

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Speaker 5: In the midst of being quarantined.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I gotta find something, and then it

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Speaker 4: blew up on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I was like, these shorties looks so cool on their

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to be a part of that.

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Speaker 2: People began meeting up in parks, practicing in their driveways,

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Speaker 2: and taking to TikTok to show off their new moves.

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Speaker 4: The downtown is one that you see a lot of

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Speaker 4: skate influencers do on Instagram. Sounds like you're crossing your

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Speaker 4: fee over as you do it, like you're kind of

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Speaker 4: moving your hips and it looks kind of like a

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Speaker 4: shuffle on skates and it's very cool.

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to acknowledging where these moves actually

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Speaker 2: come from, the history of black skaters and skaters of

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Speaker 2: color is often left out. As roller rings gained popularity

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Speaker 2: in the fifties and sixties, black skaters had to protest

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Speaker 2: in order to enter segregated rings, but this didn't keep

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Speaker 2: them from embracing the sport and creating much of the

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Speaker 2: skating culture that we know today, from the black and

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Speaker 2: queer led movement of roller disco in the nineteen seventies

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Speaker 2: and eighties to the birth of hip hop, where many

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Speaker 2: rappers got their start performing at roller rings because they

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Speaker 2: were shut out of other venues. But many have had

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Speaker 2: to fight to keep roller skating safe and accessible, with

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Speaker 2: skaters of color facing routine policing at the rinks and

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Speaker 2: roller rings struggling to stay open, especially in gentrifying cities

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Speaker 2: like New York. For Amy Goyado, founder of butter Roll,

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Speaker 2: a New York based social enterprise focused on black indigenous

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Speaker 2: and POC wellness through roller skating and the arts. The

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Speaker 2: history of roller skating for her is personal. Amy first

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Speaker 2: learned about roller skating from her mom's stories of spending

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Speaker 2: days at the rink with her friends in the seventies

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Speaker 2: and the eighties. It propelled her to dream about how

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Speaker 2: she can help to create safe skate spaces in her

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Speaker 2: increasingly gentrified city. On Today's How I Made It episode,

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Speaker 2: butter Role founder Amiko Yado tells us about the intergenerational

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Speaker 1: My name is Amy Goojado, but my friends call me Ames.

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Speaker 1: I am a creative producer, tenant organizer, and skate advocate,

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Speaker 1: and I live in a Ridgewood, New York. My family

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Speaker 1: is from the Dominican Republic. When they migrated here to

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Speaker 1: the US early nineteen seventies, my family settled in Williamsburg,

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Speaker 1: So I'm a Brooklyn girl through and through. So I

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Speaker 1: grew up in a mixture of regular residential buildings, but

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Speaker 1: mainly in NISA in the projects. I feel like smells

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Speaker 1: of things being cooked is the first thing that brings

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Speaker 1: me back to home. The smell of sofrito being made

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Speaker 1: is really nostalgic for me. Other things that bring me

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Speaker 1: back to my childhood would definitely be music. Growing up,

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Speaker 1: hip hop was heavily influenced in our neighborhood. I remember

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Speaker 1: being really really little, like hearing it from cars blasting

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Speaker 1: if I was home, you know, there was always music

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Speaker 1: it distinctly said like disco, but it was basically a

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Speaker 3: I was instantly hooked on.

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Speaker 1: It and I would play it all the time, and

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Speaker 1: I remember my mom laughing and just being so surprised

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Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting that you like this. This is

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It helped open up the conversation around her love of

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Speaker 5: I used to love skating, I always did, and those

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Speaker 5: was fourteen. Back then, I felt that I didn't belong nowhere,

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Speaker 5: But with the roles skating it took me out of

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Speaker 5: my shell. The first time I was too timid. But

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Speaker 5: the second time that I've seen you know, everybody's it's

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Speaker 5: just their own self. It's a free world dance. And

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Speaker 5: ever since then I didn't want to stop. We would

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Speaker 5: roller skating freaks, We would go. We would go from

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Speaker 5: seven in the night to seven in the morning. I

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Speaker 5: usually love those times.

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Speaker 1: My mom is an artist, true and true by heart.

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Speaker 1: She was self taught in every way. I always admired

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Speaker 1: that about her, and for a long time I couldn't

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if I did what I did because

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Speaker 1: so I remember probably in middle school, I decided that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go to fashion school. The thing was

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Speaker 1: that it's not a good combination for a very shy kid.

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Speaker 1: The process right like having to be sort of put

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Speaker 1: My own, which was through rover skating. I was at

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Speaker 1: a really dark place with my career. I was juggling school,

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Speaker 1: I was juggling work. One of the ways that I

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Speaker 1: realized I sort of feel my well, I can either

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Speaker 1: go in person to a thrift store, or I can

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Speaker 1: get the same sort of feeling or thrill just browsing

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Speaker 1: the web for really difficult pieces to find. I remember

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Speaker 1: I was looking through eBay because I remember there was

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Speaker 1: a particular type of like sequenced butterfly top that I'd

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Speaker 1: seen in like seventies movies and TV shows and stuff.

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Speaker 1: of how I would style it. I was listening to

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Speaker 1: Evelynch Champagne King just sort of put me in this

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Speaker 1: weird trance of like, oh, I wonder what that would

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Speaker 1: it would be so fly if there was a studio

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Speaker 1: created this dope idea. You know what I wanted to

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Speaker 1: know is where was your favorite rink?

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Speaker 5: Empire was one of my favorites because it was a

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Speaker 5: big place at everything, every age and Sweet Rubies. It

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Speaker 5: there and you see everybody in their own How can

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Speaker 5: I say their own celts, because when you're there you

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Speaker 5: bring your own self out, you really do. Everybody was

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Speaker 5: of this. None of that. Yeah, gonna it was great.

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Speaker 2: Mind.

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Speaker 5: You're making me come back to a the most joyous

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes me want to cry.

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Speaker 1: With roller skating. What was pushing me to stay connected

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Speaker 1: to it was a feeling. It was what was connected

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Speaker 1: to my mom, her youth, her attraction to art, how

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Speaker 1: she expressed herself with clothing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I remember going to my mom and being like, ma,

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Speaker 3: I want to open up a roller ring.

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Speaker 5: When you was going to designing school, you used to

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Speaker 5: place where you can have people roller skate. I told

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Speaker 5: you there was nothing impossible in the world.

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Speaker 1: I remember just being elated, just being like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: And I already had like a whole spiral notebook full.

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Speaker 1: Of ideas and how I do it and marketing and

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Speaker 1: floor plans and everything for better or for worse.

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Speaker 3: I learned pretty soon that it was a very big project.

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Speaker 1: I started to realize that rinks were closing pretty much

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Speaker 5: It just broke my heart when I saw it online

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Speaker 5: that I went to check, you know, what happened with

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Speaker 5: Sweet Movies? And I put the address and I was like,

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Speaker 5: what happened to Sweet Movies?

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Speaker 1: So? Out here in Brooklyn, Empire roller Dome closed in

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Speaker 1: into luxury apartments. Empire turned into a storage facility, and

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Speaker 1: I believe the one in the Bronx is like a

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Speaker 1: furniture store. I think in terms of when I started

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Speaker 1: to realize why these places were being closed down was

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Speaker 1: around the time I created Butteroll.

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Speaker 3: So I fell in love.

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Speaker 1: With the idea of opening this rink in two thousand

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Speaker 3: It was literally like a light bulb one in.

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Speaker 1: My head and I was like, oh, I could have

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to just do a regular roller disco

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Speaker 3: First thing I thought out of was like coffee.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I love coffee, but no, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, coffee and a butter roll and butter roll.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's it. I'll call it butter roll

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Speaker 1: roller disco and it just stuck. And I remember making

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Speaker 3: When I created butter roll.

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Speaker 1: Initially it was just about sharing roller skating content, but

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Speaker 1: the skating content that I could get my hands.

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Speaker 3: On was very whitewashed.

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Speaker 1: If you look at any old school footage of what

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Speaker 1: this place probably closed down because too many black and

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Speaker 1: brown people were frequenting and they found more value in

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Speaker 1: selling the building. I realized that I had to create

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Speaker 1: and so three months later I did my first event.

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Speaker 1: You know, the experience of putting that together was interesting

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Speaker 1: and I still hadn't realized like what racial profiling was,

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Speaker 1: I advocate for pocs to take space, fighting for us

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Speaker 5: Your event just brought me right back there and I

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Speaker 1: That's what I love. The intimacy of talking to people.

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Speaker 5: You remember everyone that was there feeling the same thing

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Speaker 5: And I thank God that it's not going to stop,

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Speaker 2: women are reclaiming roller skating culture. This episode was produced

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