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Speaker 1: Let's check in on President Trump here for a second

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Speaker 1: and see how he's doing, how he's feeling. He spoke

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Speaker 1: before court today. Court back in session on this Friday.

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Speaker 1: They have Wednesdays off during this absurd trial. But here

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Speaker 1: he is probably not surprising for any of you to

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Speaker 1: hear that he is unimpressed by the Biden numbers.

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Speaker 2: This is five.

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Speaker 3: The job numbers just came out and they're horrm and

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Speaker 3: they're very and I say that not happily. They say

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Speaker 3: that very unhappily. But the numbers are horrible. It's just

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Speaker 3: these people are destroying our country. Is another sign of it.

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Speaker 3: So as you probably know before I did, the job

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Speaker 3: numbers came out.

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Speaker 2: There, really really low, really.

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Speaker 3: Man our economy's band and now it's starting to show.

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Speaker 3: So you'll see it'll only get worse. It'll only get worse.

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Speaker 3: We're only going one way with the so called leadership.

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Speaker 4: There is.

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Speaker 1: I think if the buying economy, if it even just

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Speaker 1: right now going into the election. I think it'll affect

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Speaker 1: Democrats up and down the ballot across the board. But

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Speaker 1: this was interesting as well. We've discussed this a bit.

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Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy our buddy. Well, let's get Andy on next

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Speaker 1: week to address some of these things. Talk to him,

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Speaker 1: click and talk some smack over BA. Isn't baseball happening now?

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Speaker 1: Baseball season is underway. Also, I need to have Andy

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Speaker 1: tell me. Remember they still want me arrested for jury tampering,

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Speaker 1: although that seems to have died down. Who the best

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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney I should go ahead and retain in

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Speaker 1: New York to make sure that that I can be

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Speaker 1: defended is I haven't.

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Speaker 2: Forgotten about that yet. I thought they had let that go.

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Speaker 2: They're still bothering you.

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Speaker 5: We came now and then I'm still getting still getting

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Speaker 5: messages letting me know that I'm going to be headed

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Speaker 5: to Rikers Island. Then I should prepare to spend a

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Speaker 5: lot of time in prison. I know some MYPD guys, Well,

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Speaker 5: we'll come visit you.

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Speaker 2: It'll be all right. So here is what Karthy though.

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Speaker 1: This is really interesting because it does raise, first of all,

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Speaker 1: the ultimate question here is what's the point of all

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Speaker 1: these trials if there's really going to be no punishment

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Speaker 1: for Trump? Even if he's convicted, if it is just

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Speaker 1: for politics, I don't think anybody cares if he gets

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Speaker 1: convicted in need, we've thought that all along. The conviction

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Speaker 1: alone in New York is almost certainly not going to

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Speaker 1: do anything. And so if they're not going to put

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Speaker 1: him in jail and nothing's really going to happen to him,

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Speaker 1: what are they even doing? But on the gag order

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Speaker 1: issue as well, remember they're trying to say Trump can't

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Speaker 1: speak about people involved in the trial. They can speak

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Speaker 1: about them.

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Speaker 2: Andy here arguing.

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Speaker 1: That basically the judge is too shook, as they would say,

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Speaker 4: He's fighting this politic The trial is one thing. The

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Speaker 4: gag order stuff is all about the politics of the campaign.

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Speaker 4: And I must say I think that Judge march On

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Speaker 4: understands that putting Trump in jail, which he can do

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Speaker 4: for up to thirty days, for any violation of the

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Speaker 4: gag order, would be a catastrophe politically for Democrats. So

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Speaker 4: he's finding him a thousand dollars every time. There's no

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Speaker 4: doubt that there are violations of the gag order. I

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Speaker 4: think the gag order is unconstitutional, but that ships sailed.

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Speaker 4: If I were Trump, I'd be tempted to just give

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Speaker 4: every Monday and say this is for this week's violations

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Speaker 4: I don't think he'll put him in jail.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, can you assuming that true?

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Speaker 5: I just think it would be funny if Trump came

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Speaker 5: you know, like you get when you win a sweepstakes,

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Speaker 5: and he just announced, Hey, I want everybody to know

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Speaker 5: I think this gag order is unconstitutional, but nothing is

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Speaker 5: to go ahead in pre deposit fines and here is

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Speaker 6: A big beautiful check because he's a I mean, he's

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Speaker 5: There you go, just go ahead and get the tab started. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I know there's gonna be another ten or eleven coming.

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Speaker 5: I just want you to have it so you can

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Speaker 5: need it. That would be a pretty remarkable move by Trump.

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Speaker 5: And I think what Andy McCarthy is hitting on is

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Speaker 5: something we've said on this show for some time. And

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Speaker 5: the analogy I made a lot of you actually knew

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Speaker 2: My prayer rabbit analogy, Yeah, great analogy. Trump throwing in

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Speaker 5: Trump wants to get thrown in the Brier patch, and

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Speaker 5: him in there. Rabbits love being in the briar patch.

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Speaker 5: Trump would benefit tremendously from I think the video of

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Speaker 5: him being put in Riker's Island or wherever the jail

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Speaker 5: for purposes of just saying what he needs to say

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Speaker 2: To win a political campaign.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the chances at some point

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Speaker 1: another violation the gag where Trump just says.

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Speaker 2: Put it on my tab, the amazing line.

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Speaker 5: And look, we had Mark Simon on last week Friday,

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Speaker 2: Boldest prediction.

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Speaker 5: I think that we've had on the show in some time,

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Speaker 5: Marx Simone knows New York, as you have said, Monster

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Speaker 2: Remember again we talked about emails to spend money. That's right.

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Speaker 1: If he makes them even spend money in New York

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Speaker 1: at all or any time in New York, it's a win.

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Speaker 1: This is what Democrats always try to do with Texas, right.

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Speaker 1: They just use it as right now to try to

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Speaker 2: I just say the best way.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talk a lot about the breaking of

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Speaker 1: saying it's going to happen. But that's the way that

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Speaker 1: you set a different kind of president, which is the

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Speaker 1: American people see through this kind of thing for what

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Speaker 1: it is, and they will punish you at the ballot box.

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Speaker 1: All there really is at this point. None of the

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Speaker 1: None of the people that are abusing the law that

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Speaker 1: we're protecting institutions by basically subverting institutions and going after

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Speaker 1: Trump Clay. They're not going to be punished. I don't

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Speaker 1: that there's going to be prosecutors fired and bad things

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Speaker 1: The only way that there's some measure of justice here

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Speaker 1: if Joe Biden wins, this then becomes a part of

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Speaker 5: And that's why I would say if you're listening to

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Speaker 5: a feature of campaign playbooks in the future. Trump will

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Speaker 5: the idea of doing this is awful, regardless of whether

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Speaker 2: I think it's an awful precedent.

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Speaker 5: If Trump wins, I think there'll be a lot of

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Speaker 5: people saying Biden blew it, Democrats blew it because they

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Speaker 5: look at this law fair and they'll say it failed.

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Speaker 5: Oh and I think they'll also say, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go they're not going to accept

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Speaker 1: that he won, no way, Oh well, they're He'll say,

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Speaker 1: is Russia China collusion.

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Speaker 2: They'll they'll come up with a.

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Speaker 5: That's why it really needs to be that. That's why, honestly,

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Speaker 5: I would it marks some He's a big enough.

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Speaker 1: Margin that they have to shut right. But if it's tight,

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Speaker 1: if it's close, they're gonna say, and they're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: look what Trump said in twenty twenty, and we're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: well look what you lunatics did in twenty sixteen with

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Speaker 1: will not accept it, and they will not certify. If

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Speaker 1: All right, second hour Clay and Buck. Get's going right now.

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Speaker 1: We're joined by Tim Sheehy, who is running for US

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Speaker 8: Great to be here. Thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 9: What is uh, what's pushing you to try to push

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Speaker 8: Well, to be honest, I'd rather be doing something else.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Tim Shehe.

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Speaker 5: He is the Republican nominee in Montana getting ready to

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Speaker 8: Well again, I mean it's you know, Tester has has

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Speaker 1: Speaking to Tim Shee, he is running up in Montana

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Speaker 8: My position on everything, and this issue is no difference,

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Speaker 5: He's running for Senate in Montana, trying to flip control

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you know the numbers yet, but

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Speaker 5: I imagine that the amount of money raised in a Montana

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Speaker 5: Senate race is going to be ninety ninety five percent

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Speaker 5: out of state, and that people in Montana are just

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Speaker 5: going to be flooded and inundated with the amount of

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Speaker 5: money that's being spent. How are you doing in terms

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Speaker 5: of raising money from actual Montanas and how much of

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Speaker 5: the money that you're going to have to fight against

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Speaker 5: from John Tester is going to be flooding in from elsewhere.

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Speaker 5: And for people out there who are listening and want

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Speaker 5: to support you, how can they do it? But I'm

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Speaker 5: just kind of curious. I mean, this is going to

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Speaker 5: be one of the most expensive Senate races. I would

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Speaker 5: imagine anywhere in the country, this will be.

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Speaker 8: The most expensive race in American history per vote, of

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Speaker 8: any race, the most will defensive race. It's an American

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Speaker 8: history on a per boat basis, which is ridiculous. It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 8: You know, we need to have campaign finance perform, We

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Speaker 8: need to fix this crap. But that's not gonna happen

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Speaker 8: before November. So in the meantime, tenfriendt dot com. You know,

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Speaker 8: folks can learn about me and about the race. You know, yeah,

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Speaker 8: we're getting out spend. I mean, test is raising you know,

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Speaker 8: sometimes eight million dollars a quarter. You know, every quarter.

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Speaker 8: We're hoping to punch through two maybe three if we're lucky,

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Speaker 8: and you know, we're we're doing grassroots, hitting the whole state,

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Speaker 8: every VFW hall, every rodeo. But you're absolutely right, I

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Speaker 8: mean it is we're getting not raised three to one,

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Speaker 8: four to one, five to one, and outspent. I mean

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Speaker 8: there's a period of time there was million dollars a

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Speaker 8: week of just peer savage attack ads on me, you know,

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Speaker 8: nothing even talking about what Tester's doing, just made up

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Speaker 8: crap about me. My family are a tradable worker businesses,

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Speaker 8: my military record, and that's what they spend their money on.

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Speaker 8: The money goes to do one thing, assault me and

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Speaker 8: my family and everything we've done. My wife and I

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Speaker 8: both serve this country in combat. I was wounded in combat.

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Speaker 8: We've created hundreds of jobs. But of course they're turning

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Speaker 8: all that into evil. And what I've challenged Ester is, hey,

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Speaker 8: why don't we just have a race about the issues, man,

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Speaker 8: Why don't we just talk about the border and gas

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Speaker 8: prices and foreign policy and inflation. Instead, all he wants

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Speaker 8: to do is make up lies about us. But that's

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Speaker 8: where the money is going. We're getting outspent, you know

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Speaker 8: again picked your week two to one, three to one,

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Speaker 8: four to one, five to one. But we're getting crushed.

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Speaker 8: But we're winning in the polls. The last poll that

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Speaker 8: came out, we're forty eight to forty five. So the

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Speaker 8: more money they spend, the more people are realizing that

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Speaker 8: sending John Tester back for a fourth term to sell

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Speaker 8: out America for another six years is not the right answer.

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Speaker 2: You're actually favored.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you pay attention to the polymarket,

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Speaker 5: offshore markets for people out there who are interested in

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Speaker 5: investing your favored to win this race right now, despite

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Speaker 5: what they're spending on against you. You said something pretty

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Speaker 5: extraordinary there that per vote, this is going to be

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Speaker 5: the most expensive race that has ever happened in the

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Speaker 5: history of the United States. What kind of cost per

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Speaker 5: voter are we looking at? What is this race going

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Speaker 5: to cost?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, we got about seven hundred thousand. I mean,

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Speaker 8: you got a million ish residents in Montana, you know,

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Speaker 8: typical voter turnout, we'll get six hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: we're trying to drive more voter turnout because we know

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Speaker 8: that the people in Montana don't want boys and girls

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Speaker 8: locker rooms, they don't want open borders, they don't want

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Speaker 8: six dollars diesel. So we know that the people support us.

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Speaker 8: We just got to get them to the polls and

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Speaker 8: please everybody listening. You know, I assume you're conservative. You're listening.

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Speaker 8: You know we're getting beat coast to coast ten on

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Speaker 8: voter turnout by the Democrats. You know, we all want

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Speaker 8: I want in person voter ID one hundred percent, but

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Speaker 8: guess what, that's not the law of the land this year.

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Speaker 8: We need to make sure Republicans, get out and vote early,

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Speaker 8: vote by mail, vote, absentee vote, DA, whatever it is.

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Speaker 8: Just make sure you actually vote because we're getting crushed

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Speaker 8: on turnout. And in Montana they're saying this race could

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Speaker 8: be two hundred and fifty to three hundred million for

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Speaker 8: six to seven hundred thousand voters. Oh that's crazy. Those

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Speaker 8: are crazy numbers. Exactly, It's insane. But you know that's

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Speaker 8: where we're at. And you know we're not going to

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Speaker 8: beat them on the money side, we know that, but

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Speaker 8: we got to have enough to fight back. You know,

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to be more more Ammo, but I

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Speaker 8: got to be able to fight back.

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Speaker 1: Timmy, you got a big chunk of of You know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because I think to people who haven't spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time in Montana and don't know the

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Speaker 1: state particularly, well, it's republic It's a Republican state, right

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Speaker 1: if you look at the voting demographics and party registration.

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Speaker 1: But there's a big chunk of independents who can swing

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Speaker 1: it one way or the other. Right, is that the

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Speaker 1: breakdown in Montana. I remember someone telling me, you know,

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Speaker 1: Bozeman's obviously very blue. Couple of other little blue pieces

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Speaker 1: of the state, then the rest of the state's very red.

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Speaker 1: Just give us a sense of how that all comes

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Speaker 1: together and how independence you know, view this race and

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Speaker 1: why you think you're able to get more of them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. No, thank you for asking that, because you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: There's an oversimplification of what people think Montana is politically.

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Speaker 8: You know, they say, well, they're a big square, empty

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Speaker 8: western state, so they must be deep red. And the

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Speaker 8: fact is it's far more complex than that. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 8: Trump won the state by twenty points, you know, seventeen points,

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Speaker 8: you know, landslide the state. But the reality is just

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Speaker 8: nine years ago here in Montana, I get a seven

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Speaker 8: out of eight state wide elected off is we're Democrats

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Speaker 8: and today eight of nine are Republicans, and that just

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Speaker 8: shows the shift the state has not changed. What's changed

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Speaker 8: is the Democrat Party has left the state. You know,

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Speaker 8: the Democrats in Montana. Of course, yes, you have your

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Speaker 8: you know, pro Hamas Palestinian lefty loonies on the college campuses.

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Speaker 8: But the traditional Montana Democrats were union, they were labor,

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Speaker 8: they were you know, they were back when you could

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Speaker 8: still have a Democrat that was pro gun, pro cop

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Speaker 8: pro border pro life democrat, you know, that doesn't really

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Speaker 8: exist anymore. And and those people in Montana have said, man,

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Speaker 8: this part of that used to support my grandfather's mining union,

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Speaker 8: pipe fitters union. You know, like they're not they're not

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Speaker 8: they're not standing up for the white working class, blue

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Speaker 8: collar guy anymore. You know, they're selling us out. And

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Speaker 8: so that's been the big shift. And and you know

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Speaker 8: all the other common misconceptions folks coming into the state,

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Speaker 8: especially during COVID, you know, they see the so yellowstone,

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Speaker 8: they're like, oh, I everyone's a liberal Californian parachuting into

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Speaker 8: Montana making it blue. And that's actually incorrect. Most of

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Speaker 8: the people coming here are political refugees fleeing Portland, Seattle, Sacramento,

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Speaker 8: San Francisco, La, saying I'm getting away from this craziness.

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Speaker 8: I'm getting away from you know, homelessness and crime and

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Speaker 8: crazy taxes, and I'm going to move to a state

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Speaker 8: where I'm going to be free. And they're bringing those

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Speaker 8: values here. And that's another reason why why we're seeing

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Speaker 8: the states solidify. Read So there is that there is

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Speaker 8: an independent swing, and I wouldn't quite call it independent,

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Speaker 8: It's more of a libertarian swing. Here in Montana, we

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Speaker 8: do have a lot of folks that their mindset is, hey,

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Speaker 8: less government's better government, and I can't disagree with that

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Speaker 8: one bit. You know, their outlook is really, I don't

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Speaker 8: really care what party, just stay out of my curios,

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Speaker 8: don't bother me, and go home. And I think those folks,

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Speaker 8: of course, there's only one party now that even mentions,

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Speaker 8: you know, smaller government, that even mentions restricting the power

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Speaker 8: of our federal government. And we know which part of

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Speaker 8: that is. So I think that that kind of libertarian

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Speaker 8: position has drifted to the right here in these last

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Speaker 8: few years, especially especially during and after COVID, when we

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Speaker 8: saw the greatest trampling of our constitutional rights in the

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Speaker 8: history of this country.

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Speaker 1: Tim four Mt dot com is where you can go

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Speaker 1: to help out and pitch in. Tim Sheehy, we are

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Speaker 1: certainly rooting for you here. Thank you for your service

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Speaker 1: to the country, and thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: On the show.

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Speaker 8: Thanks your Tom. We'll be back to the most times.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in fourteen hours up onto fifteenth hour of

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Speaker 1: Does Laura back your your mint Julip blasphemy? By the way,

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Speaker 1: is she on board for anti mint Julip? That's a

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Speaker 1: fantastic question. I don't know that Lara has had Well,

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Speaker 1: certainly she hasn't. Lara has never been to the Kentucky Derby,

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Speaker 1: so she has not had a Kentucky Derby.

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Speaker 2: Neither is Carrie.

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Speaker 1: You're the only one of the of the four of

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Speaker 1: us who's been, and so you've you're the only Derby

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Speaker 1: veteran and the only julyp officiant or anti officionado. I

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Speaker 1: guess as the case, maybe because neither Karen nor I

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Speaker 1: have ever had a mind jewlip.

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Speaker 5: Twenty two dollars for a mint jewlyp at the Kentucky

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Speaker 5: Dery be free tip. So if you went with let's

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Speaker 5: say a quad basically four four mint Jules would cost

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Speaker 5: you nearly one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like a bargain for a Miami a Miami

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Speaker 1: a vodka Red Bull, it's forty bucks like that. The

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Speaker 1: twenty two bucks is not that not that crazy. That

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Speaker 1: is definitely New York City Miami prices. Because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people out there like twenty two bucks. That's

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Speaker 1: a twelve pack and and and sometimes it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of Natty light for our fraternity brother fans. Before before

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Speaker 1: before Biden, it was a twelve pack. Now it is

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Speaker 1: sadly just a six pack.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy how much everything costs. All right, couple of

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Speaker 5: things that are out there. Report from Bloomberg that Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump is down to a final four on his vice

655
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Speaker 5: presidential list.

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Speaker 2: I just tweeted out a poll.

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Speaker 5: We will share it from Clay and Buck if you

658
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Speaker 5: want to vote both Buck and Mine's pick still alive

659
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Speaker 5: and in the final four. According to Bloomberg. Again this

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Speaker 5: is Bloomberg. Only Trump has the list. I'm not claiming

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Speaker 5: that this is one hundred percent accurate. I'm telling you

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Speaker 5: what Bloomberg reported. Senators Tim Scott, Marco Rubio, and JD. Vance,

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Speaker 5: and then Governor Doug Bergham of North Dakota. That is

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Speaker 5: the report for men. What do you think about this

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Speaker 5: final four? First of all, do you think it's accurate?

666
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Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think it's accurate.

667
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Speaker 1: I think that the easiest way to get clicks and

668
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Speaker 1: attention at this part of the political cycle for any

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Speaker 1: of these news organizations is speak to somebody that you

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Speaker 1: can plausibly claim has access to Trump in his inner

671
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Speaker 1: circle and come up with your VP list. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Bloomberg, they probably aren't just flying off the

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Speaker 1: handle here. They have some kind of sourcing on this one.

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Speaker 1: The fact that there's not a single woman in the mix, though,

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Speaker 1: I find surprising. Doug Bergham is the one though that

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Speaker 1: I just why, well, what would that he doesn't have

677
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Speaker 1: name recognition.

678
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Speaker 5: Trump must really like him or something. Is I think

679
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Speaker 5: Trump really likes him. We've had him on the show

680
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Speaker 5: a couple of times. I think it's the no drama factor.

681
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Speaker 5: He's a really successful business guy. If you really go

682
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Speaker 5: back to Mike Pence, Mike Pence is the most bland

683
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Speaker 5: politician on the planet. Well, he was supposed to make

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Speaker 5: evangelicals feel comfortable that Trump wasn't you know, about to

685
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Speaker 5: turn into like a atheist socialist or something. But I

686
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Speaker 5: don't think like we had the Veke on the show yesterday,

687
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Speaker 5: right or two days ago, whatever day it was.

688
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Speaker 2: I love the Vike.

689
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Speaker 5: Theveke is not going to shrink into the corner and

690
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Speaker 5: be unnoticeable. He is outspoken. He's going to get attention.

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Speaker 2: You know my job.

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Speaker 1: I think Devike really wants to be I was joking

693
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Speaker 1: around about how you know, Treasury Secretary and Treasury Building

694
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Speaker 1: of all the of all the agencies and buildings in

695
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Speaker 1: d C. Treasury buildings is really nice, really close to

696
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Speaker 1: the White House, but not the White House.

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Speaker 2: It's a little more chill.

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Speaker 1: You're right there kind of looking off to the back

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Speaker 1: of the White House where the pickups with the helicopter happened. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's a nice building. I would say, I would say

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Speaker 1: if Vake would enjoy the most being Press secretary, I

702
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Speaker 1: think I think he loves just he doesn't need the money.

703
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Speaker 2: He doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: He's got more money than he's ever gonna spend, so

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's a he needs it as a

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Speaker 1: career stepping stone. I feel like he would really enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine him as Press secretary, it would be

708
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Speaker 1: a slaughter, It'd be great TV.

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Speaker 2: He would, he would, he'd be so good.

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Speaker 1: Really, So I think that'd be you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you would take that job. He

712
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Speaker 1: probably wants to build more companies and be on the

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Speaker 1: outside into his thing, because remember, you got to be

714
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Speaker 1: if you're taking a White House role, you gotta be

715
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Speaker 1: at the White House, you gotta live in DC, you

716
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Speaker 1: got to actually do these things. So I don't think

717
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Speaker 1: that's for him necessarily. We'll see, Okay, So VP picks

718
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Speaker 1: so sorry Bergham, Tim Scott. Still the betting home, I would.

719
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Speaker 5: Say, is in the Mike Pence realm, where he's not

720
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Speaker 5: going to really eight waves, but he's more of a

721
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Speaker 5: business guy than an evangelical guy. Vance who you like

722
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Speaker 5: as your top pick? Senator from Ohio? Marco Rubio. Complications

723
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Speaker 5: there are that he's from Florida. They would have to

724
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Speaker 5: figure out the residency issue, but that would be a

725
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Speaker 5: sign that Trump thinks there's a lot of Hispanic men

726
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Speaker 5: to play, make a play for. And then to me

727
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Speaker 5: Tim Scott, who I think is going to be the pick.

728
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Speaker 5: I think Trump believes that there are black men out

729
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Speaker 5: there that are going to support him. I think he

730
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Speaker 5: sees Tim Scott as part of pathway there. Let me

731
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Speaker 5: give you the results so far. You can go vote.

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Speaker 5: Three thousand of you have voted in the first five minutes.

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Speaker 5: Tim Scott thirty seven percent. Jd Vance thirty one percent,

734
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Speaker 5: twenty three percent, Marco Rubio nine percent. Doug Bergham. I

735
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Speaker 5: think a lot of people just don't know. Doug Bergham

736
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Speaker 5: would be to a certain extent. This is going to

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Speaker 5: be a name recognition poll, and Doug Bergham, I would say,

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Speaker 5: is the least well known of this group.

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Speaker 2: So those four are out there.

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Speaker 5: But Bucket said he thinks it's going to be jd

741
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Speaker 5: Vance I have said I think it's going to be

742
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Speaker 5: Tim Scott. We'll see how this continues to play out,

743
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Speaker 5: but I wanted to update all of you.

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Speaker 2: Just because that story was out there.

745
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Speaker 5: Also, Trump has started to take aim at RFK Junior.

746
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Speaker 5: A lot of attention out there on Trump v. Biden.

747
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 5: We all know that, but the Trump team has now

748
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Speaker 5: gone into the archives and they're finding a lot of

749
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Speaker 5: stuff that RFK Junior has said. In the past, I

750
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Speaker 5: have said, I think RFK Junior is one hundred percent

751
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Speaker 5: right on or ninety nine point, like a huge percentage

752
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Speaker 5: right on COVID. That's where I would agree atinghold.

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Speaker 1: But now now I'm gonna put my full RFK skepticism

754
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Speaker 1: once again on display. And I was skeptical from the beginning.

755
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Speaker 1: And I know we still have people call in and

756
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Speaker 1: said that they would you know, They're like, I listened

757
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Speaker 1: to Rush for thirty years. I'm super conservative, and I

758
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Speaker 1: love Trump, and I think RFK would be a great VP.

759
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Speaker 1: And I sit here and I go, he's a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: Well what am I am? I taking crazy pills here?

761
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Speaker 2: He's a Democrat? Wh why didn't I don't understand why

762
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Speaker 2: people don't see that as a problem.

763
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Speaker 1: He's good on COVID, Clay, you, I everybody on the

764
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Speaker 1: right who is worth anything is good on COVID. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that alone is enough. I think there are people frustrated.

766
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the DeSantis people are COVID

767
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: voters and they're frustrated because they don't think Trump was

768
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Speaker 1: good enough on COVID, and so they see RFK Junior

769
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Speaker 1: as that pathway. But I want to play these two

770
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: cuts for you because and we've Rfk's been on the show,

771
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Speaker 1: We've invited him back on the show. I think he

772
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Speaker 1: should have the right to explain himself on these cuts,

773
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Speaker 1: and people evolve, certainly I have. I was gonna say,

774
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Speaker 1: you're just gonna say he doesn't believe what he says

775
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: in these cuts anymore, But I.

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Speaker 5: Do think you should hear them. Here is August of

777
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. RFK Junior says that he's supporting Hillary and

778
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Speaker 5: he thinks she's going to be a very very good president.

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Speaker 10: Listen, are you solidly for Hillary or are you more

780
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Speaker 10: anti Trump? Oh?

781
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Speaker 2: I'm solidly for Hillary.

782
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Speaker 11: I think Hillary is going to be a very very

783
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Speaker 11: good president.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I mean solidly for Hillary. In twenty sixteen, here.

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Speaker 5: He also is Now this is further back, this is

786
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Speaker 5: from two thousand and five, but this is actually a

787
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Speaker 5: pretty direct attack on people who live in Red states.

788
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Speaker 5: This is a again a flashback RFK two thousand and five.

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Speaker 11: Red state people are more likely to murder you, to

790
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Speaker 11: impregnate your teenage daughter, to commit a violent crime against you,

791
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Speaker 11: to commit a non violent crime against you, to watch

792
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Speaker 11: Desperate Housewives on TV, to buy pornography, to buy you know,

793
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Speaker 11: degenerate video games like Grand Theft a Otto.

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Speaker 2: So that is a take on Red state.

795
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Speaker 5: Now, you can maybe say I was joking a little

796
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Speaker 5: bit with the Desperate Housewives line, But as RFK is

797
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: fleshing out to me, this is a sign that there

798
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Speaker 5: is recognition that he I think he hurts Trump more

799
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Speaker 5: than he hurts Biden.

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Speaker 1: I've thought that all along, and you know, I just

801
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Speaker 1: just to clear the air. I have been skeptical of

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Speaker 1: RFK as a candidate. Yeah, we agree on COVID, right,

803
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean there are other you know, Berenson was a

804
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Speaker 1: hero on COVID and is I would say center right now.

805
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: But he's not some huge Trump fan. I mean there

806
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: are people out there who who fit this mold of

807
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: just seeing COVID lockdowns and all that for what it was.

808
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: I've been skeptical of him because he's a Democrat the

809
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: whole time, and I've thought the whole time he's gonna

810
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: hurt Trump. He's gonna hurt Trump more. You know what

811
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Speaker 1: you don't see and maybe I'm missing this. I mean,

812
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Speaker 1: there's only so much that anyone can absorb, and we're

813
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: just constantly living in this news cycle. Clay and I

814
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Speaker 1: both I don't see Democrats attacking him the way they

815
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Speaker 1: would if they really thought that he was a threat.

816
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Speaker 2: Are you seeing that?

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Speaker 1: I don't see Democrats trying to trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: tear down RFK Junior as aggressively as they go after

819
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Speaker 1: people that they think really pose a challenge to their

820
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Speaker 1: power mad nature.

821
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't see it. I feel like they're playing.

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Speaker 3: Us, and.

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Speaker 2: I've just saying it all along.

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Speaker 5: But I do think that they don't want third parties.

825
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Speaker 5: Jill Stein hurts them. Jill Stein is taking votes from

826
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Speaker 5: Joe Biden. I think Carnell West is taking votes from

827
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Speaker 5: Joe Biden. But I think that RFK Junior is going

828
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Speaker 5: to take more votes from Trump. So the fact that

829
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Speaker 5: they're I think they're playing a little bit of a

830
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Speaker 5: subterfuge game here where they claim that they actually are

831
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Speaker 5: really afraid of RFK Junior to try to keep the

832
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Speaker 5: Trump people from recognizing that it actually hurts them, hurts

833
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Speaker 5: helps them.

834
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Speaker 1: So I completely see it that way too, and I

835
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Speaker 1: have all along and this is why I've been very

836
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Speaker 1: skeptical of the I don't understand where yet he is

837
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Speaker 1: good on one thing. There are a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that you need to be able to do. Remember, it's

839
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Speaker 1: not just about being the VP for electoral prospects. I

840
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Speaker 1: honestly I would bet money that Trump has I think

841
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Speaker 1: Trump is going to see triple digits. Like I think

842
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: he's in phenomenal condition for somebody his age. But when

843
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: someone's going to be in their eighties, the vice president

844
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Speaker 1: needs to be ready to go. And to me, as

845
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Speaker 1: a conservative and one who's been a conservative since you know,

846
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Speaker 1: I was watching Saturday morning cartoons, basically, I don't see

847
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Speaker 1: how you could ever think having a member of the

848
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Speaker 1: Kennedy family no less. I mean, I know he's supposed

849
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Speaker 1: to be kind of rogue and they've turned on him now,

850
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: but you're gonna put a Kennedy on a Republican ticket

851
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Speaker 1: and tell me this is I think they're trying to

852
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: swindle people, and I know no one likes to hear

853
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: they're being swindled.

854
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to swindle people. I really do.

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Speaker 5: I would I would be fine with anybody as VP

856
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Speaker 5: if it meant Biden lost, like I would. I'm just

857
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 5: being honest, like I would roll the dice on we

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Speaker 5: had Tulcy Gabbert on. I really like her, I like

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Speaker 5: the veg I would be fine with any of these

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Speaker 5: four finalists.

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Speaker 2: Can I address that real quick?

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Speaker 1: Also, because obviously I feel very different, you know, I

863
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Speaker 1: feel very differently in terms of my trade.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm just going on gut.

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Speaker 1: I I trust that Tulsi Gabbert has come to the right,

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Speaker 1: you know, overwhelmingly and fully because she experienced what happened

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Speaker 1: with the Democratic You're somebody who has overwhelmingly shifted your own

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Speaker 1: believe you know, so we come at this different perspective.

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Speaker 5: I think that, yeah, right, I think people have gone

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Speaker 5: so crazy that I kind of stayed the same place,

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Speaker 5: and I'm gone from somebody who was center left at

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Speaker 5: like twenty to now being like considered far right wing

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Speaker 5: and many of the things I believe are the exact

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Speaker 5: name most stuff. And it's just kind of crazy of

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Speaker 5: how much I think the political environment has shifted. But yes,

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Speaker 5: you like Tulsi.

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Speaker 1: I think Tulsi has made a conversion so people and

878
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Speaker 1: people can disagree with that, and you know, and the

879
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Speaker 1: RFK thing. Also, you know, Kennedy knows like a lot

880
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Speaker 1: of it's just the family name and you know, all

881
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Speaker 1: the environmental stuff. And I'd love to talk to him

882
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Speaker 1: about climate change, like do you believe in all that nonsense?

883
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Speaker 1: Like you really think we're going to die because of

884
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Speaker 1: climate change? And you know, the humanity is going to

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Speaker 1: be over a lot of questions I could ask him.

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Speaker 1: I do think that the third party thing is that

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Speaker 1: we talk about how Biden could win. We're looking at

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Speaker 1: super narrow margins, We're looking at a brand fight of

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Speaker 1: Democrat versus Republican, especially with Biden at the head of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat ticket. Third party could be the thing that delivered.

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Speaker 1: And I know people don't like to hear it, but

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Speaker 1: you look at the Jill Stein vote in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jill Stein, no libertarian vote in twenty against Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Libertarians, I got some. I gotta talk to you

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Speaker 1: libert the libertarians out there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I thought COVID was going to be your super Bowl.

898
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Speaker 1: A lot of libertarians were like.

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Speaker 2: Well, they have a right to shut down the churches.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think they do. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they do.

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Speaker 1: Libertarians some of them went a little not all of you,

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Speaker 1: I'm throw a little shadyer. Not all of you, but

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Speaker 1: some of you went a little little mia on me

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Speaker 1: during COVID.

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Speaker 5: I will just say I would take anybody as VP

907
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Speaker 5: if it meant that Trump would win. Now, the argument

908
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Speaker 5: of does the VP really matter, I think is a

909
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Speaker 5: very valid one. But if you told me I would

910
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Speaker 5: take a RFK Junior, I would anybody at VP. I

911
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Speaker 5: feel confident Trump's going to live through his term, but

912
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Speaker 5: I just want to be Biden. Speaking of VP candidateacy,

913
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Speaker 5: see that the governor of South Dakota, Christy nom has

914
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Speaker 5: been community noted on x for changing her story now

915
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Speaker 5: about the dog, because it is now what she is

916
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Speaker 5: saying on TV is not what was said in the book.

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Speaker 5: And for anyone who says who cares about this fair

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Speaker 5: another news story today. She claimed in her book, which

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Speaker 5: is called No Turning Back, which many are pointing out

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Speaker 5: the irony of this one to have met Kim Jong un.

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Speaker 5: The problem with the claim that she met Kim Jong

922
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Speaker 5: un is that she did not meet Kim Jong un,

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Speaker 5: as now even her spokes hack has has set out

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Speaker 5: in public, so they're now having to.

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Speaker 2: Change that in the book. I don't know, man.

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Speaker 1: If I told you that I met Elvis in my

927
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Speaker 1: memoir and then I was like, actually, I didn't meet Elvis,

928
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Speaker 1: you might think that.

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Speaker 2: Was a bit strange because you would remember, wouldn't You.

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Speaker 5: Were moving rapidly towards the Charles Barkley when he claimed

931
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Speaker 5: that he was misquoted in his own autobiography. Do you

932
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Speaker 5: remember this, Like this is probably like twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 5: He was doing his publicity tour and he was like,

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Speaker 5: I don't think I said that, and they were like,

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Speaker 5: it's in your book and he was like, I didn't

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Speaker 5: read it. I mean, so again, I just if you

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Speaker 5: decide you want to get elected president because you killed

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Speaker 5: the dog and you want to share that story, and

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Speaker 5: then you lie about meeting the dictator of North.

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Speaker 2: Korea, like that seems like kind of a big deal.

941
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Speaker 2: In your oldest story, I was.

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Speaker 1: Reporting the news I mean, she got community noted on

943
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Speaker 1: the dog situation, so they're saying that she's changed the

944
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Speaker 1: story and you know, largely changed the story in a

945
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Speaker 1: way that the ex community has has weighed in on.

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Speaker 1: And then the story about the North I mean, could

947
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Speaker 1: you go go check it out? I mean, tell me

948
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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I mean, if she met, if she

949
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Speaker 1: met Kim Jong ung. I would love to hear in

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Speaker 1: detail about it, but apparently not. So it's important you

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Speaker 1: get these things right. It's one thing, Clay, you know,

952
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Speaker 1: and I know from book World, your enemies are going

953
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Speaker 1: to dive. They're going to dive into it, and if

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Speaker 1: you give them anything to work with, you're going to

955
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Speaker 1: be in a tough spot really quickly. It's also hard

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Speaker 1: to meet the dictator of North Korea. It's not like

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Speaker 1: he just randomly shows up in Pere, South Dakota. There's

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Speaker 1: been a deal, it would be a big deal.

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Speaker 5: There's an attack on the excellence in America, not just

960
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Speaker 5: protesting on campuses, Excellence attacked in many of our institutions

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Speaker 5: and industries out there. And I love that Hillsdale is

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Speaker 5: fighting back against this. You know who hasn't had an

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Speaker 5: anti Israel protest on campus Hillsdale. You know who doesn't

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Speaker 5: go in with great inflation Hillsdale. They do an incredible

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Speaker 5: job and you should be checking out. In Primus, it's

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Speaker 5: Hillsdale College's free digestive Liberty goes to more than six

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Speaker 5: and a half million homes and businesses, and in Primus

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Speaker 5: will give you a smart constitutional commentary from people like

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Speaker 5: Christopher Rufo, Victor Davis Hanson, Heather McDonald and Heather McDonald

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Speaker 5: and Hillsdale's own president Larry arn who had the good

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Speaker 5: fortune to sit next to at a Seattle event in

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Speaker 5: the past couple of weeks. He's awesome guy. No cost

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Speaker 5: or obligation. Hillsdale produces and mails and Primus as part

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Speaker 5: of its educational mission on behalf of Liberty. Sign up

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Speaker 5: today at clayanbuckfour Hillsdale dot com. That's clayanbuckfour Hillsdale dot com.

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Speaker 2: They're here to shed light on the truth every day.

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 5: We are rolling through the Friday edition of the program,

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Speaker 5: joined now by John Rich. He knows a little bit

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Speaker 5: about a lot of things. I think that's a good

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Speaker 5: way to describe. You had an awesome last time I

982
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Speaker 5: saw you. A couple of weeks ago at your house

983
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Speaker 5: doing an awesome fundraiser for Marsha Blackburn. You're fighting for

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Speaker 5: people out there left and right, and I know you're

985
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Speaker 5: a big University of Texas fan, so I may ask

986
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Speaker 5: you something.

987
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Speaker 2: About that in a moment.

988
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Speaker 5: But how much have you enjoyed seeing so many different

989
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: kids on southern campuses sec ACC standing up against these

990
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Speaker 5: anti Israel protesters. I know you've got and reached out

991
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Speaker 5: and made contact with the UNC guys who have gone

992
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Speaker 5: super viral for holding up the flag, But has it

993
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Speaker 5: given you some optimism in the next generation. We'll figure

994
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Speaker 5: out what's going on with John's audio in a moment, Buck,

995
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Speaker 5: I am ready to also give everybody my pick on

996
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Speaker 5: the Kentucky Derby kind of going forward and breaking all

997
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Speaker 5: that down.

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Speaker 2: Did you actually know anything about horse racing or are

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Speaker 2: you You know?

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Speaker 1: You know about other sports stuff, but do you know

1001
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Speaker 1: about horse racing?

1002
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I know the horse is run and

1003
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Speaker 2: I saw a sea biscuit, that's about it.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 5: I've been to a bunch of horse races and I've

1006
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Speaker 5: gambled on horses a lot. No, I don't know one

1007
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: thing about horse Yeah, one I mean, if you bet

1008
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 5: on enough horse races, you win. I've never won any

1009
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: money that's substantial enough to kind of make me think, oh,

1010
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 5: my goodness, this was an unbelievable trip. But yeah, look,

1011
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 5: I mean there will be horse race is all day.

1012
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Speaker 5: I mean, I've bet on dog races back in the day.

1013
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 5: I don't think they allow dog racing anymore. But they

1014
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Speaker 5: used to allow greyhound racing in the state you call

1015
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 5: home now Florida. As a kid, I went to what's

1016
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Speaker 5: wrong with dog racing is that? I think they decided

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Speaker 5: that it was unkind to the dogs. I don't I

1018
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Speaker 5: don't know. You know, they pretend to chase a rabbit.

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Speaker 5: They used to have greyhound racing tracks all over the

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Speaker 5: place in the South, in particular. I don't think they Arkansas, Iowa, Texas,

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Speaker 5: West Virginia allow greyhound racing. Still, you go, I've been

1022
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Speaker 5: to This is real, not like something that you might

1023
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Speaker 5: see in La or New York. I've been to cockfighting.

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Speaker 5: You know, they have a cockfighting ring in I believe

1025
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Speaker 5: it's still there Puerto Rico. You can go gamble on cockfighting.

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Speaker 5: They have cockfighting palaces and you can go sit in

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Speaker 5: there and watch the roosters go head to head and

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Speaker 5: uh and pick winners. I think it's still up and

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Speaker 5: running and uh. And I was like, man, this is

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Speaker 5: you talk about a cultural experience. U Oh, yes, I

1031
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Speaker 5: like to go figure out the odds and dive in.

1032
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Speaker 5: I said, the thing that I don't like in particular

1033
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Speaker 5: is paramutual, the way that you don't know what the

1034
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Speaker 5: odds are until it actually gets there. My pick, and

1035
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Speaker 5: this is from people out there who are way smarter

1036
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Speaker 5: than me about horse racing, my pick is going to

1037
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Speaker 5: be the number eleven horse forever young. It's a dominant horse.

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Speaker 5: Let's bring in John now we've got him back, John

1039
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Speaker 5: Rich with us. I gave you an incredibly illustrious introduction.

1040
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you heard it, but i'll shorten

1041
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Speaker 5: it up.

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Speaker 2: Now.

1043
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Speaker 5: You were raising money for Marsha Blackburn. You're a fantastic guy.

1044
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Speaker 5: You're a patriot. Are you optimistic? I know you've made

1045
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Speaker 5: contact with the UNC fraternity guys who helped to hold

1046
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Speaker 5: up the flag. When you see what's happened at so

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Speaker 5: many different Southern schools, and the kids who've been willing

1048
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Speaker 5: to show up and counter protest the anti Israel protesters

1049
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Speaker 5: Are you optimistic about the next generation. What can you

1050
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Speaker 5: tell us about your contact with those guys, Yes, I am.

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Speaker 10: I can tell you. First of all, I played concerts

1052
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Speaker 10: all over the US, and so I see this kind

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Speaker 10: of this kind of patriotism from the stage. I look

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Speaker 10: out and see just vast tens of thousands of people singing,

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Speaker 10: you know, God bless America at the top of their

1056
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Speaker 10: lungs at every single show. So they're out there. I

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Speaker 10: think we have maybe been tricked into thinking that America's

1058
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Speaker 10: youth is by and large the ones that are running

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Speaker 10: around acting like idiots and protesting and tearing stuff up,

1060
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Speaker 10: that we think that's what it is. But in honesty,

1061
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Speaker 10: what it is is they're the ones that get on TV.

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Speaker 10: I think the hard work, forward thinking American youth for

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Speaker 10: the most part, you don't see them on TV, man

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Speaker 10: because they're not they're not causing any trouble. They're studying,

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Speaker 10: they're working, they're trying to figure out how to plan

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Speaker 10: their life and go be a success in America. So

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Speaker 10: I don't think you hear from them. But when I

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Speaker 10: saw those those FRAPs that un see stand underneath the

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Speaker 10: flag and make sure it didn't touch the ground, which

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Speaker 10: is a big deal. Anybody that knows about flag etiquette,

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Speaker 10: you're never supposed to let the United States flag touch

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Speaker 10: the ground. I saw that and went with somebody raised

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Speaker 10: those boys right because they know how to treat the flag.

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Speaker 10: And even though they had rocks and bottles and sticks

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Speaker 10: being thrown at them, they never dropped the flag. They

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Speaker 10: just held it until it got raised back up to

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Speaker 10: the top. It impressed me to such a degree that

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Speaker 10: I basically just reached out on Twitter on X and

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00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 10: I said, Hey, anybody knows how to get a hold

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Speaker 10: of these guys, let me know, but I would like

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Speaker 10: to offer a free concert for them whenever they decide

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Speaker 10: to have this rager, as they put it on their

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Speaker 10: donation page. And now I've been able to connect with

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Speaker 10: those guys and it looks like we're going to put

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Speaker 10: something together really significant. I've had all kinds of artists

1086
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 10: calling me saying, hey, man, let me know what that

1087
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 10: date is, because I will be the Lee Greenwood hit

1088
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 10: me with the text and said, hey, John, you think

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00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 10: those college guys would want to hear God Bless the USA.

1090
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 10: And I said, yeah, Lee, I'm pretty sure that want

1091
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 10: to hear that one and so he goes cool, tell

1092
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 10: them my men. So I think this can become a

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Speaker 10: real moment where we celebrate young Americans who are patriotic

1094
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 10: and who are sick and tired of the nonsense that

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00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 10: they've had to deal with. If you think about what

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00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 10: they've been through since twenty twenty, take the back So

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00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 10: you can't go to college, take all your classes online. No,

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00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 10: you're not going to have a graduation. And now they

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00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 10: look up and their campuses are totally overrun, and here

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 10: we go again. They've got a lot to deal with.

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Speaker 10: So I think they should be celebrated. And I'm proud

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Speaker 10: to be a part of it and looking forward to

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Speaker 10: making this a really big deal.

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Speaker 1: Hey John, it's buck. You know, you're a country music superstar,

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: a patriot, and a musician, so we think you're perfect

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00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: to weigh in on a controversy here. I don't want

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00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: to put you too much on the hot seat, but

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00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: as a musician and country music superstar, do you give

1109
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: respect to all instruments, including all of the woodwinds equally

1110
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 1: or do you pick and choose among the instruments out there?

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00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: Because I will tell you Clay has some choice words

1112
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: about flute players.

1113
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 2: Sir, Clay's calling out the flute players.

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00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: I'm anti flute. I think if you're a grown man

1115
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 5: you play the flute, you should have picked another instrument.

1116
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 5: You're a musical genius. What do you how do you

1117
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: analyze the different respective instruments?

1118
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 10: Well, I will tell you that back in the day now,

1119
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 10: the Revolutionary War, they had guys hitting the bombs and

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00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 10: they had guys blowing flute. Okay, I mean you heard it.

1121
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 10: The British heard it, So I don't know, that's pretty manly.

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00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 10: If you can continue playing a flute while bullets are

1123
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 10: whizzing by your head, that's that's pretty good. So I

1124
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 10: don't know.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.

1126
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: He didn't even have to go Jethrow Tull on us.

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00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: He just pulled out Revolutionary War Clay. I think John

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00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: just solved this. Solve this riddle.

1129
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: John tying in with that, You've got a great whiskey,

1130
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 5: and I was sampling some of it at your at

1131
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 5: your Marshall Blackburn Uh fundraiser that you threw. I don't

1132
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 5: know how many times you've been to the Derby buck

1133
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 5: as now I've been a couple of times. We're gonna

1134
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 5: be in Louisville tomorrow going, I said, and again, you're

1135
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: a whiskey guy. You know bourbon, you know that the

1136
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 5: mint julip. In my opinion, I'm an old fashioned guy.

1137
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 5: I'm also fine with whiskey. You know in ice on ice,

1138
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 5: do you find the mint julop to be as awful

1139
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 5: of a drink as I do? Can you think of

1140
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 5: a drink that you've tried and you thought, Man, this

1141
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 5: thing is so overhyped? How would you assess the liquor

1142
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 5: breakdown here?

1143
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 10: I would agree with you on the mint julip. I've

1144
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 10: never been a big fan of that. Now there is

1145
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 10: a whiskey version of that. It's funny you bring that up.

1146
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 10: At the top of my Twitter page on X, I

1147
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 10: just posted a redneck rivier, a Thoroughbred was what we

1148
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 10: call it. It's for the Kentucky Derby and it has

1149
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 10: a couple of the elements of a mint julip, but

1150
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 10: it's using Rednick Riviera whiskey. So if you're looking for

1151
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 10: an alternative, just go to my Twitter page at John

1152
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 10: Rich and make the thing. It's like four or five ingredients.

1153
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 10: But I agree with you. The mint julip as it

1154
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 10: stands it's a classic. I would never order one. I

1155
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 10: think people probably only drink those when the race happens.

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00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 5: By the way, how optimistic are you about Texas joining

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00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 5: the SEC? You're a huge Texas Longhorn fan. You were

1159
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 5: in the Rose Bowl for the Vince Young National Championship

1160
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: win over my buddy Matt Lioner, one of the probably

1161
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 5: the greatest college football game in the last thirty forty years.

1162
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 5: I know Texas made the playoff this past year, and

1163
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 5: I know you were excited about that. You came on

1164
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 5: big noon. How are the Longhorns gonna do as full

1165
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 5: fledged SEC members?

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Speaker 10: You know, I think they'll do fine. It's obviously that

1167
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 10: the competition is going to be I mean, every week

1168
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 10: is going to be another grinder. But one thing I'm

1169
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 10: really excited about for next year in college football is

1170
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 10: the playoff scenario finally. I mean, you know, if you're

1171
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 10: a really good team and you barely missed a cut,

1172
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 10: well you won't barely miss it this time. You're actually

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00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 10: gonna have a shot. I think that's gonna make it

1174
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 10: a really exciting finish to college football. Are you pretty

1175
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 10: happy to see that set up that.

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Speaker 2: Way as well? Yeah, you know, I had Buck with me.

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Speaker 5: We went to watch Texas play Alabama and Athens a

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00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 5: couple of years I mean, uh in Austin a couple

1179
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 5: of years ago. Phenomenal scene. I think it's gonna be

1180
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 5: a great fit for both Texas and Oklahoma. I can't

1181
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 5: wait to see how it all shakes out.

1182
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, me too. And you know I'm married at Texas, Aggy,

1183
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 10: so oh, I know you.

1184
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: Got an A and M.

1185
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 5: You got A and M and H in Texas. Your

1186
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,479
Speaker 5: your kids are gonna have to choose now.

1187
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: I know.

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00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 10: My oldest son is A and M. My youngest son

1189
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 10: is a Longhorn fan. So it's definitely a civil war

1190
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 10: in the house when that game is gonna happen. I

1191
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 10: can't wait for it.

1192
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: That's gonna be great to have it back.

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00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 10: Yeah it is. That was always one of the most

1194
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 10: classic head to head you know, matchups, rivalries anywhere in

1195
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 10: the US. So I hated to lose that. So I

1196
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 10: think it's gonna be great. Man, Texas going the SEC.

1197
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 10: I think it stumbs up across the board.

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Speaker 5: Now you've got Also, this is pretty cool. You're bringing

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Speaker 5: back a show, The Pursuit with John Rich, which is

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Speaker 5: gonna be on Fox Business Network. Uh, what can you

1201
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: tell us about that?

1202
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 10: So this is the show that I created and I

1203
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 10: host the show. It's about people who pursue happiness in America.

1204
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 10: With all the negativity going on. Even in this interview,

1205
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 10: we have to talk about it. I thought, Man, if

1206
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 10: you can unplug on a Saturday night and watch some

1207
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 10: really entertaining stuff that's positive and talks about the greatness

1208
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 10: of our country, that's a good show. So that's what's

1209
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Speaker 10: coming on Saturday nights now on Fox Business Network, eight

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Speaker 10: o'clock Eastern, seventh Central. It's people like Tim Tebow, Dana White,

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Speaker 10: Wolfgang Puck, Gary Sinise, Vanilla Ice, I mean, on and

1212
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 10: on and on, Michael W. Smith, Jim Brewer, who I

1213
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 10: think is the funniest guy in America right now. So

1214
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Speaker 10: it's a lot of really high caliber people telling their stories.

1215
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Speaker 10: So to get a chance Saturday evening, sit back and

1216
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Speaker 10: turn it on and check it out.

1217
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Speaker 5: Last question for you, John, as we go out, you

1218
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 5: mentioned that you've been in contact with those UNC fraternity

1219
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 5: brothers who held the flag and kept it off the ground.

1220
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 5: Also that Lee Greenwood wants to involved potentially other artists.

1221
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 5: What do you think the chances are Donald Trump wants

1222
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 5: to be involved. I know you played one of his

1223
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 5: most recent fundraisers that he did here in Nashville. And

1224
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 5: how big of a party could that really turn into?

1225
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 5: Given how many people want to be a part of

1226
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: celebrating America with those North Carolinians.

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Speaker 8: You know.

1228
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 10: I mean, it wouldn't shock me if he wanted to come.

1229
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 10: I think it's probably up to the guys on the ground. Honestly,

1230
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 10: it's up to those It's up to those college boys.

1231
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 10: They're the reason we're having this discussion. So if they

1232
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 10: wanted to invite Trump, they should invite him. If they

1233
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 10: don't want to make it political at all, that's also

1234
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 10: totally fine with me. I will tell you I was

1235
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 10: contacted by bikers for Trump out of North Carolina and

1236
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 10: the guy said, hey, you better book a very large

1237
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 10: venue because we're all coming.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

1239
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 10: Okay, So I think this could turn into a really

1240
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 10: massive thing, and I hope it. We're going to call

1241
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 10: it flagstock, by the way.

1242
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 2: Flag Oh that's amazing.

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00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 10: Imagine that T shirt. I mean it's perfect. So I

1244
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 10: hope flagstock kicks off flagstocks all over the United States.

1245
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 10: I hope campuses show their patriotism and walk out and

1246
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 10: be heard and stand up. I mean, they've got a

1247
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 10: right to protest on one side, and we've got a

1248
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 10: right to say what we want to say too. And

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01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 10: there's a lot more than more of us than there are.

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01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 10: I'm firmly convinced of that. God bless those boys from UNC.

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01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 5: No doubt we want to be there. Flagstock is an amazing,

1252
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 5: amazing name, buck and I need to be there as well. John,

1253
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 5: I'll see you around soon, I'm sure appreciate the time.

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Speaker 10: Man, Yes, sir, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Look, I want to tell you you're hearing from Bucket Mey.

1256
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Speaker 5: We're going to be at the Kentucky Derby tomorrow. And

1257
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