WEBVTT - Wired for Success: Doc Watts Electric

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<v Speaker 1>I told my boss, I said, I'm done with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't do it no more.

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<v Speaker 2>Some businesses start from a great idea, some from a need.

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<v Speaker 2>But for Georgia and Margarita Rivera, their company, Dakwats Electric,

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<v Speaker 2>was founded in a moment of frustration.

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<v Speaker 3>He came home to pretty much let me know that

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<v Speaker 3>he had quit his job and that he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to do this side thing full time. It was super

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<v Speaker 3>bad timing. I'm eight months pregnant. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>The stakes are extremely hot. It's like do a die moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, either I'm going to put food on the

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<v Speaker 1>table or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Unshakables from Chase for Business and Ruby

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<v Speaker 4>Studio from iHeartMedia. I'm Ben Walter, CEO of Chase for Business.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Tanya Nebo, a lawyer and consultant for business owners.

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<v Speaker 4>On the Unshakables, we're sharing the daring stories of small

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<v Speaker 4>business owners facing their crisis points and telling the stories

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<v Speaker 4>of how they got through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're back with another story.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me all about it, Tanya.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, once upon a time, newlyweds George and Margarita decided

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<v Speaker 2>to leave behind everything they knew while raising an infant.

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<v Speaker 2>Though the first few months were hard, they finally got

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<v Speaker 2>a huge break and put everything on the line. Would

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<v Speaker 2>this moment make or break the couple and the business.

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<v Speaker 4>Was that a Hollywood movie or a small business story.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you listen and then you can decide. On

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<v Speaker 2>today's episode, Doc Watts from Orlando, Florida. Growing up, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of kids dream of being astronauts or ballerinas. Not

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<v Speaker 2>George Rivera. He only wanted to be one thing, an electrician.

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<v Speaker 1>That was born for this. And you talked to my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>she tells, y'all was born with a wire out of

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<v Speaker 1>my hand.

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<v Speaker 2>His dad was a handyman, and he tag along on

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<v Speaker 2>jobs and watch him build, shape, paint, and tear things down.

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<v Speaker 2>But nothing fascinated him quite like electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mystery. You can do a thousand different things.

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<v Speaker 1>You can turn the light bulb with different ways. It's

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<v Speaker 1>no one way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to an electrician training program, completed an apprenticeship,

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<v Speaker 2>and got a job at the Orlando Airport. Right away,

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<v Speaker 2>he was put on a multi million dollar electrical project.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the youngest guy there with the license that

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<v Speaker 1>very had any mustache, or beard, and they tell me, George, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing here? I've been doing this since

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<v Speaker 1>you're in diapers, you know, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Although he was a lot younger than most of his coworkers,

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<v Speaker 2>George wasn't shy about taking charge.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't like a young guy coming in a very aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>very go get her. And there was one guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>told him, listen, man, one day, you're gonna be working

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Before long, he was right. George quickly rose in the

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<v Speaker 2>ranks and soon was managing the same men that had

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<v Speaker 2>previously disrespected him.

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<v Speaker 1>We had thirty two guys. The guy show up, lady

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, I feel like a big

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<v Speaker 1>babysitting here.

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<v Speaker 2>George got more and more frustrated. One day, after a

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<v Speaker 2>particularly infuriating moment, he marched straight in to his boss's office.

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<v Speaker 1>I told my boss, I said, I just couldn't do

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<v Speaker 1>it no more. I'm done with this. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>go out my own. And that's exactly what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think about I knew I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a company one day, and I said now or never.

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<v Speaker 2>George may have known that this was the moment, but

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<v Speaker 2>his wife, Margarita had no idea. The whole ride home,

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<v Speaker 2>George dreaded, telling her.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember pulling up to the driveway and walking around

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<v Speaker 1>the van a thousand times, like in circles circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had to redo the driveway after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Margarita was eight months pregnant with their son. They had

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<v Speaker 2>only one thousand dollars in the bank and lived in

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<v Speaker 2>a house with the foundation issues that made it slanted.

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<v Speaker 2>With all that was going on, the timing wasn't great.

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<v Speaker 3>He came home to pretty much let me know that

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<v Speaker 3>he had quit his job and that he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to do this side thing full time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Margarita, George's wife and a co owner of Doc Watts.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, what are you thinking? We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a baby in a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pretend George isn't sitting next to you. Were you

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<v Speaker 2>cussing him out in your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? It was more like you really made the

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<v Speaker 3>decision without me. How is this going to happen? How

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<v Speaker 3>is this going to work? There was no plan.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Tanya, I have to stop you for a second.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you honestly, Okay, if you were twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four years old, you're just married you're one month away

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<v Speaker 4>from having your first kid and your spouse comes out

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<v Speaker 4>and says, I've had it, I quit, I'm starting a

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<v Speaker 4>new business. Here we go, right, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that sounds like you were cussing him out in

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<v Speaker 2>your mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>She had to be.

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<v Speaker 4>She she deserves, she deserves an Olympic medal.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, yeah, that's a lot to be

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<v Speaker 2>as calm as it sounds like she was, even though

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<v Speaker 2>she's pissed because he didn't say anything to her about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he makes such a major life decision when

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<v Speaker 2>she's about to give birth for God's sakes, Like what, yes, saint.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's go back to the story. What happens next?

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<v Speaker 2>So then George had actually been preparing for this moment

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<v Speaker 2>months before he quit. He put ads in the local

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<v Speaker 2>paper for electrical work on the side. He even bought

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<v Speaker 2>a utility van.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't had the customer base darting out nothing, just

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<v Speaker 1>really go out with faith, no money and no experience,

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<v Speaker 1>no business skills, one hundred percent of nothing. Still nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like do a die moment. You know, either I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put food on the table or not. We had

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<v Speaker 1>no room to fail.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew that to stand out his business needed a

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<v Speaker 2>catchy name. And then one day he was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>a friend about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, man, what's the name gonna be? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>name gonna be? So he throws his phone book on

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<v Speaker 1>his table and landed in the doctor pages. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know how about Doc Wats Electric. I said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's corny and catchy.

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<v Speaker 2>Doc Watts Electric. He even had someone sketch out what

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<v Speaker 2>the character Doc Wats would look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the older guy and lives like little Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I tell people that's me in twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>holding a light bulb.

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<v Speaker 2>George even started wearing I used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go with my Doc Watts like a lack hole, like.

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<v Speaker 3>A doctor's coat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I used to pull up in the people houses.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, look at this guy. You know, I needed

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<v Speaker 1>some advertisement. I needed to be stand out. I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to catch people's eyes, you know. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to attract the man, who is this guy walk in

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<v Speaker 1>this house or a lack hole?

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<v Speaker 2>He built his business through word of mouth and by

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<v Speaker 2>saying yes to any type of job he could get.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one time I was even doing flooring just

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<v Speaker 1>to get started.

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<v Speaker 2>His hustle paid off. He started with smaller household job

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<v Speaker 2>to build his client base and then landed contracts with

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<v Speaker 2>larger companies.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked day and night NonStop. There was times where

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to get something done the very next day.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, there's no way this guy's gonna get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>And I stayed there all night and the guy was

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<v Speaker 1>very impressed. So that's how you build client and tell

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<v Speaker 1>you you show them what you're made of.

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<v Speaker 2>George was on his new path and Margarita was headed

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<v Speaker 2>back to work at the County court House after her

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<v Speaker 2>maternity lead. She'd found a sitter for their baby, but then.

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<v Speaker 3>Two weeks into me going back to work, I pick

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<v Speaker 3>my son up and she says to me, Margarita, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't watch him anymore. Oh no, I'm like, wait what?

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<v Speaker 3>And so I came home and I tell George. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>she just says she can't watch him anymore. We can't

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<v Speaker 3>afford daycare. Like what are we going to do? So

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation came up about me leaving my job and

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<v Speaker 3>doing this full time with him. George was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why don't we grow the business, why don't we do

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<v Speaker 3>this together? And so of course My thought process was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>do I want to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Margarita had earned a degree in psychology and dreamt of

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<v Speaker 2>actually working in the field full time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's very difficult to think about leaving your

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<v Speaker 3>career path, your dream to help fill your husband's. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you understand. Yeah, So that was a decision that I

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<v Speaker 3>had to make, and we decided that that's what we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do. There could have been because of that, a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of resentment, even though that's what I thought

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<v Speaker 3>the best decision was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a tough decision, but it really was the

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<v Speaker 1>only decision we had in our hands. We didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>no family member. We can't go back to mom and

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<v Speaker 1>dad's house. We had no options.

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<v Speaker 2>So Margarita would join Doc Wats as a co owner.

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<v Speaker 2>She'd start handling the administration and operation side of the business,

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<v Speaker 2>all while taking care of a newborn. They'd spend the

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<v Speaker 2>next few years learning on the job.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of stress in the beginning, just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure things out. Neither of us had any

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<v Speaker 3>business knowledge, any business experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean a ton of mistakes. I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that, you know, I wish I was a little

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<v Speaker 1>more educated in all that stuff. But you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you just got to be naive. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>have everything figured out. You just had to have the wheel,

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<v Speaker 1>the gut to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>While the company was taking off, Margarita had trouble letting

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<v Speaker 2>go of some resentment.

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<v Speaker 3>For a little bit because George was out front and

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<v Speaker 3>he was meeting the customers and things like that. There

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<v Speaker 3>was also sort of like a feeling of being in

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<v Speaker 3>the shadow. He was like the face, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>was like behind the scenes, you know, doing all the

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<v Speaker 3>background work.

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<v Speaker 2>Besides, this was her husband's dream, not hers. George tried

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<v Speaker 2>to convince her otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Through the whole process. I told, babe, you're a owner.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your baby. I was playing I see from

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<v Speaker 1>day one.

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<v Speaker 2>But all their efforts were working, clients were returning, and

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<v Speaker 2>referrals were coming in quickly. One of his clients ended

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<v Speaker 2>up recommending him for his biggest job yet.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, this is a big job. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you can do it. I was doing multimay lot

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<v Speaker 1>of jobs at the airport. I could do it for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else, I can do it for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though he'd never done anything like this before,

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<v Speaker 2>he been on the job.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like three or four other companies that I know

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<v Speaker 1>of were bidding, and they were well known, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just submitted a proposal. I wanted it so bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to the owner, so listen, just give me a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Doc Watts landed the gig and it was a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>But at first they felt like it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>out of their league.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no tools, I had no employees, no credit,

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<v Speaker 1>I had nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgie and Margarita would be doing all the electrical work

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<v Speaker 2>for two buildings, near Universal Studios or Landou. The project

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<v Speaker 2>budget was one million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>With this job landing on our desk, it stakes with

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<v Speaker 1>high again. This is either going to break us or

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<v Speaker 1>take us to the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>To get the job done, George would need some help.

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<v Speaker 2>He even brought in some of the guys he used

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<v Speaker 2>to work with at the airport, the same ones he

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<v Speaker 2>joked would work for him. One day. That day had come, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Called everybody and their mother to come help.

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<v Speaker 3>We recruited his brother, Jonah. He was working at a

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant at the time. George was just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I need you to come help me. Mind you his

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<v Speaker 3>brotherhood no electrical experience.

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<v Speaker 2>What was this like working this job? What did you

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<v Speaker 2>do to execute on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I pretty much lived there. I had no choice. Weekend, Saturday, Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>sun up, some down. A group of ten people should

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<v Speaker 1>have done this job.

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<v Speaker 2>The crew wasn't the only thing that was absolutely invaluable

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<v Speaker 2>to pulling off this job. There was also the copper wiring.

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<v Speaker 2>The cost of copper wire had gone way up and

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<v Speaker 2>they had spent seventy thousand dollars on it for this

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<v Speaker 2>project alone. Theft of copper wire was on the rise,

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<v Speaker 2>so George couldn't take any chances.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, gas was going up, the copper's going up.

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<v Speaker 1>We had this big delivery to the job. I said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to stay here, and my wife said, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean to stay here? I said yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>if I if somebody takes a foot two foot of

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<v Speaker 1>one of these cuts a wire, it was done. You Miles,

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<v Speaker 1>well pack your bags. I spent a night at the

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<v Speaker 1>job site. I don't think I slept. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>was out there and keep my head on a swivel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was looking around, looking around. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>Up until this point, Margarita had mostly been working in

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<v Speaker 2>the background at Dacwatts. But this job changed everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I was super involved in that job, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>think the beginning of this job is when I took ownership.

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<v Speaker 3>I purposely tried to be out front to where like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the doc, but I'm here too. There's certain things

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<v Speaker 3>that all of us bring to the table, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of had to just realize those I may

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<v Speaker 3>not have all of this electrical knowledge, but I have

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<v Speaker 3>something to bring. I have something that is going to

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<v Speaker 3>help this business grow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when she became owner. And let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Sky was a limit.

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<v Speaker 2>The project was grueling, but George and Margherita small but

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<v Speaker 2>mighty team pulled it off. This million dollar contract changes

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<v Speaker 2>the game for Dock Watts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, right in the middle of the recession and

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<v Speaker 1>we were thriving. That was doing the biggest job in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And I had a brother with me and

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<v Speaker 1>my wife. Oh man, you can't write this if you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>With a million dollar project under their belt, Doc Wats

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<v Speaker 2>started beating on other large jobs and started hiring more employees.

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<v Speaker 2>They also decided to make another big bet.

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<v Speaker 1>We end up buying a little small building.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We went from my house to a storage unit to

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<v Speaker 1>actually in twenty eleven, we end up buying a little

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one hundred square foot building lit a tiny little thing.

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<v Speaker 2>For many, real estate is the business, but for Doc Watts,

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<v Speaker 2>real estate was the insurance policy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was working for the other company. Remember that they

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<v Speaker 1>rented their spot for eighteen years and they went out

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<v Speaker 1>of business, and they had no assets and all, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And you know I would not be like them.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can rent it out to have other incomes

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<v Speaker 1>just in case, you know, something God forbid, something happens

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<v Speaker 1>to Dog Wats. We always had something to full bag on.

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<v Speaker 2>While Georgia Marcurita made some strategic moves to expand, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest growth areas for their business came from

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<v Speaker 2>a moment of just being human. In twenty seventeen, when

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<v Speaker 2>Hurricane Maria devastated Puerto Rico, Doc Wats donated two generators

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<v Speaker 2>to a charity helping to rebuild. This turned out to

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<v Speaker 2>be the first step in what would be a major

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<v Speaker 2>pivot for the company.

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<v Speaker 1>We wasn't built to do generators. We were doing commercial

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<v Speaker 1>job service and all that stuff. As a man, what

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<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity to take advantage of this and we

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<v Speaker 1>capitalize that we do the maintenance, we do the programming,

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<v Speaker 1>we do all the warranty claims. It was a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different department. We have a generated department now because of

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<v Speaker 1>the Hurricane Maria and the hurricanes afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Today doc wats continues to grow their core business and

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<v Speaker 2>no one has to sleep on the work sites anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>The business has grown significantly from us doing all the

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<v Speaker 3>tasks and now we have an office team, a field team,

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<v Speaker 3>and now just recently we finished our office expansion and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's twelve thousand, so one hundred square feet. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little surreal to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that twelve seven hundred square feet isn't just for

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<v Speaker 2>their doc wats business. It's also home to their dance

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<v Speaker 2>studio and an event space they rent out on the weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>Doc wats has been in business since two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a long time since Georgia and Margarita first

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<v Speaker 2>started learning how to run a company, but they're still

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<v Speaker 2>devoted to growing as entrepreneurs.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get better leaders, which means I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>to leadership schooling, get mentors. I mean, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>this level from knowing no business skills or no education.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we gotta get smarter, we gotta get educated, because

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<v Speaker 1>we can't continue the way we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 2>George wasn't the only one who had to develop as

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<v Speaker 2>a business owner. Margarita also had to go through an

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<v Speaker 2>evolution of her own as we've grown.

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<v Speaker 3>There are things that I have taken on in the

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<v Speaker 3>business that have helped it grow, and so I have

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<v Speaker 3>to stand proud in those things to continue to not

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<v Speaker 3>let resentment in. I am proud of the fact that,

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<v Speaker 3>oh that for me to know that this could not

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<v Speaker 3>have been built alone, and for me to stand in

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<v Speaker 3>that pride to know that I was a part of

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<v Speaker 3>it and that I helped bring it here. I's just

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<v Speaker 3>seeing your value and that's where I've come to, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not backing down today.

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<v Speaker 2>Doc Watts is a seven figure company and they're moving

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<v Speaker 2>quickly toward eight figures. They now have twenty employees and

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<v Speaker 2>eleven electrical trucks on the road. George and Margarita hoped

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<v Speaker 2>to open another location in Fort Myers, Florida sometime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>They even plan to start selling DAC Watts merch in

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<v Speaker 2>an online store. What would you say was the smartest

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you want throughout this process.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that us being able to build something together

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<v Speaker 3>really says a lot. And we were able to feed

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<v Speaker 3>off of our strengths and persevere through a lot of challenges,

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<v Speaker 3>and where we are today really shows that.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day I do like fifty first dates, I like

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<v Speaker 1>st every day. It's like, what a joy I get

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<v Speaker 1>to do this venture with my wife, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think we get that right.

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<v Speaker 2>What a story, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I really love about it. Part of

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<v Speaker 4>the reason that we wanted to do this podcast was

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to real businesses. You know, there's so much

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<v Speaker 4>out there that talks about the latest billion dollar VC

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<v Speaker 4>backed startup or you know, the household name that everyone

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<v Speaker 4>knows about, but those aren't the everyday businesses that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>sponsor your local little league and keep your community going

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<v Speaker 4>and employ local people in the same way. And we

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<v Speaker 4>really wanted to tell those stories. And I just George

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<v Speaker 4>and Margarita's story is so rich with that. They're real

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<v Speaker 4>people facing real business challenges and real family challenges every

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<v Speaker 4>day and making that work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hustle right, and then doing things even when you

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like you're qualified to do them. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what they were doing. Yeah, it's amazing, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet they still you know, George is still not shock himself.

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<v Speaker 4>But beyond that, oh yeah, he knew the electrical.

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<v Speaker 2>Part technical p Yeah. But you have Margarita who's psychology background,

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<v Speaker 2>and then suddenly she's running this business with her husband

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<v Speaker 2>and they are just freestyling doing what has to be

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<v Speaker 2>done in order to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's really important. We hear from from our

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<v Speaker 4>clients all the time. You know, the first time I

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<v Speaker 4>ever did something was the first time I ever had

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<v Speaker 4>to do something. When you have a job and you

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<v Speaker 4>work for a company, sort of people tell you what

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<v Speaker 4>to do or there's a roadmap or there's an app

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<v Speaker 4>for that, and in small business there really is no app.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no playbook to follow. And so this, this is

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<v Speaker 4>classic necessity. Is the mother invention kind of stuff where

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<v Speaker 4>you see a challenge, you have to do something about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and so what do you do? You just figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You just figured it out. Yeah, And that's what both

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<v Speaker 2>of them had to do at the same time, with

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<v Speaker 2>a brand new baby, with a house that's slanted, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just it was a number of things coming together all

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<v Speaker 2>at one time, yet they still made it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Tanya. One of the things I hear from

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<v Speaker 4>business owners all the time is how hard it was

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<v Speaker 4>just to get started, you know, to win those very

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<v Speaker 4>first customers. And I hear stories about trial and error

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<v Speaker 4>and people try advertising, it doesn't work. People try all

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<v Speaker 4>different kinds of methods and it's hard. It's hard when

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<v Speaker 4>you first get started. So what have you heard from

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<v Speaker 4>your clients about that first kernel of success when they

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<v Speaker 4>win their first customers? How do they do it?

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of it was its similar to how Doc

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<v Speaker 2>Wats did it, and that is that word of mouth

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<v Speaker 2>that referral business. I think one thing that Doc Wats

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<v Speaker 2>did really, really well was being able to differentiate themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in a sea of frankly non differentiated companies, right And

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<v Speaker 2>I think they found a way to be unique. They

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<v Speaker 2>found a way to be memorable. They found a way

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<v Speaker 2>to make an impression on the people that they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing their work for. That's huge. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he was thinking about this very early on and established

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<v Speaker 2>this is how we're going to become memorable to people.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's really important. I think more people starting

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<v Speaker 2>out should be aware of that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Look, George says he's an introvert, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>clear that when he needs to be, he can turn

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<v Speaker 4>it on. And when you think about small business and

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that they don't have a whole marketing machine,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they are the business. So he found his

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<v Speaker 4>own authentic way to turn it on when he needed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. But then I want to transition a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about their use of commercial real estate as

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<v Speaker 2>part of their growth strategy. As you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a significant part of my practice, and I like seeing

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<v Speaker 2>how they use that as an opportunity to advance their business.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 4>So, there's lots of ways to use property as a

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<v Speaker 4>tool to either balance your income out, to invest profits

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<v Speaker 4>for the business, or to make it more resilient. All

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<v Speaker 4>those are perfectly acceptable reasons to buy property, like anything else,

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<v Speaker 4>as long as you can get it at a reasonable

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<v Speaker 4>price for what you're buying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as long as it makes sense, right, So with

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<v Speaker 2>them to your point, for some small business owners, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really a risk management approach. And I think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>thing we've got on the show here, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>strategy makes the most sense for your business? Right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>is it a risk management type of thing, Is it

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<v Speaker 2>a diversification kind of play. What is it that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to help this particular business in the long term.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And also I encourage people to think about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you get into anything, doesn't matter what it is,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to understand it completely. So just like I

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<v Speaker 4>would tell people who are renting buying their first home,

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<v Speaker 4>don't think that it's just like renting. It's yes you

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<v Speaker 4>live in it. Yes you live in it, but you're

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<v Speaker 4>now responsible for taking care of it and paying the

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<v Speaker 4>taxes and maintaining it and all those things. And the

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<v Speaker 4>same is true for a business that buys its property. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't mean it's not a good thing to do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's often a very good thing to do. But business

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<v Speaker 4>owners need to appreciate that when they're buying a property,

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<v Speaker 4>whether they're going to use it for their business or

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to rent it out, it comes with a

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<v Speaker 4>new set of obligations that they need to be prepared

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<v Speaker 4>to handle.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. But I don't want us to discourage people

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<v Speaker 2>who may not understand commercial real estate, right, So I

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<v Speaker 2>get your point. Yes, it's important to understand anything that

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting into completely. At the same time, though, don't

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<v Speaker 2>be afraid because you don't know what it's about. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's a great play or potentially good play for your business,

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<v Speaker 2>it's incumbent upon you to become aware or educate yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you suggest people do or think about

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<v Speaker 2>when they're trying to figure out that next step?

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<v Speaker 4>Or run the numbers, run the numbers, really understand it's

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<v Speaker 4>what is it going to cost to own this piece

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<v Speaker 4>of property? What's it going to cost to service the debt?

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<v Speaker 4>And when I say service this piece of property, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean everything to maintain it properly. If you don't maintain

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<v Speaker 4>it properly, you're not going to hold the value. If

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<v Speaker 4>you can't pay the taxes, it's not going to hold

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<v Speaker 4>its value. So what is it really going to take

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<v Speaker 4>to service this property properly, to really do it right?

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<v Speaker 4>And how does that work within the numbers that your

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<v Speaker 4>business generates? And if you run the numbers and it works,

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<v Speaker 4>then it's a great investment in many cases, And if

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't, then you're not ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. True.

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<v Speaker 4>The other lesson I took away from the story is

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<v Speaker 4>that you just never know where a great idea will

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<v Speaker 4>come from, and it's important to pay attention to the

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<v Speaker 4>world around you, and you know, sometimes even a great

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<v Speaker 4>business idea can come from the way that you give

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<v Speaker 4>back to the world. Think about what happened in Puerto Rico, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he donated some generators to Puerto Rico after

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<v Speaker 4>the storm when they were without power, and of course

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<v Speaker 4>that was a tragedy for the people who live there

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<v Speaker 4>and he was able to help. But out of that

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<v Speaker 4>grew a new business idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I thought that was awesome. You know, came from

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<v Speaker 2>a great place of just wanting to help others who

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<v Speaker 2>were in a really, really tough situation, and then from

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<v Speaker 2>that his ability to see that there was a need

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<v Speaker 2>there that he could serve. He found something that complimented

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<v Speaker 2>his core business. And I think that that's great, just

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<v Speaker 2>being aware of the potential opportunities to grow without it

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<v Speaker 2>being detrimental to the business.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it helped him see around the corner, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so he could see that what had happened in Puerto

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<v Speaker 4>Rico could happen in Florida and that people were starting

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<v Speaker 4>to wake up to that reality, and it gave him

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<v Speaker 4>an opportunity for the business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's just a testament to being open and being

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<v Speaker 2>aware that business is dynamic. You don't continue to do

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing over and over again for years and

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<v Speaker 2>years without being willing to adjust.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I know very few entrepreneurs who say, my business

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<v Speaker 4>is exactly in every way what I envisioned when I start.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have to know when to kind of cut

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<v Speaker 2>some things loose or when to expand and try some

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<v Speaker 2>new things.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to give George real credit for one other thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to give him credit for his growth mindset.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I mean by that is he's not static,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not satisfied. He and Marguerite have been enormously successful,

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<v Speaker 4>but they don't take that as a reason to sit

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<v Speaker 4>back and enjoy the spoils. They know that to get

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<v Speaker 4>to the next level, they're going to have to continue

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<v Speaker 4>to learn and grow because every day they run a

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<v Speaker 4>bigger business than they've ever run. Because it's important that

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<v Speaker 4>people understand that as long as you own a business,

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<v Speaker 4>there's never a moment at which you spike the football

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<v Speaker 4>into Claar victory. It doesn't work that way. As long

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<v Speaker 4>as you own that business, competitors are coming for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Things you can't control are going to impact it. Whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is. There's always the issues. As long as you

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<v Speaker 4>own a business, and if you're not getting smarter and

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<v Speaker 4>learning and growing and developing with that business, you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to fall behind. As long as you own that business,

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<v Speaker 4>you cannot declare victory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, one of the things he's struggling with is

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<v Speaker 4>growing as a leader means finding other leaders to be

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<v Speaker 4>part of his organization. You know, people who work in

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<v Speaker 4>big companies naturally understand that. It's a big part of

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<v Speaker 4>what they do is help grow generations of leaders and

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<v Speaker 4>lead leaders. It's not something that helps you build the

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<v Speaker 4>business from zero. So there's always a pivot that comes

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<v Speaker 4>for small businesses when they get to a certain size

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<v Speaker 4>where suddenly the business owner can't know everything and has

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<v Speaker 4>to have people that they trust who can lead others

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<v Speaker 4>on their behalf. And that's a big leap for a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a big lead, and I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>it's a huge challenge for a lot of small business owners.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been so entrenched in their business, they know how

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, they're developing themselves, they've become great leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>But finding those people who will kind of step into

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<v Speaker 2>their shoes and do what they used to do or

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<v Speaker 2>who will even perhaps to see them later. Is a

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<v Speaker 2>widespread challenge, and I'm hearing from a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>small business owners and the question is how do you

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<v Speaker 2>do it when you're not big business.

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<v Speaker 4>As a business gets bigger, one of the most important

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<v Speaker 4>things it can do is hire people who have worked

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<v Speaker 4>in bigger businesses, who understand how leadership at scale can

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<v Speaker 4>look and feel. By definition, if you started your business

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<v Speaker 4>from zero, if you've never worked in corporate you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what that looks like. So you don't necessarily want

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<v Speaker 4>to turn your business into a large corporation overnight. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not a good thing. But you do want to bring

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<v Speaker 4>in people who can teach you how to do those

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<v Speaker 4>things and show others what good looks like when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to that leadership. Now, there's a catch, which is

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<v Speaker 4>you have to be open to someone who wants to

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<v Speaker 4>do things in a different way. Yeah, and you have

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<v Speaker 4>to find a way to do that in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that's authentic to you. But you have to bring in

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<v Speaker 4>people who've seen it done at scale. If you want

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<v Speaker 4>to operate at scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Ben, I'm excited to see what doc Lots is

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<v Speaker 2>going to do. They've taken some big risks and have

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<v Speaker 2>had some big wins as a result. So it's cool

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<v Speaker 2>to see what they're doing and I look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>seeing more from them.

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<v Speaker 4>I expect a lot, Tanya. I want to go back

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<v Speaker 4>to your chat with Rivera's. They had some words of

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<v Speaker 4>advice that really highlight the spirit and determination of all

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<v Speaker 4>small business owners that we should share.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real simple for me, it's just take action. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be the smartest guy. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to have everything figured out. You can get educated later on.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is how many books you're going to read,

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<v Speaker 1>how many seminars and all that stuff you can read.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't take no action, that's my advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take the action as a matter what positions you are,

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<v Speaker 1>where you are in light, start somewhere, fail forward, just

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<v Speaker 1>do something.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, write up plan, write your goals, write

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<v Speaker 3>your vision, and then kind of write down like how

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to get there and then remembering why you started.

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<v Speaker 3>For us, I had to quit my job to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no looking back, there is no giving up.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep going and make it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>In the next episode, after a severe allergic reaction shakes

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<v Speaker 2>her family, Denise Woodard is inspired to create a line

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<v Speaker 2>of allergen free snacks to protect her daughter and others.

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