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Speaker 1: it's memoir, it's Martini. Clebrit Book Club can read it

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Speaker 1: energy at an apartment in sheep said Bay in the

425
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: middle of the winter. No, but that's sad, so sad.

426
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: And at the end I was like freezing. You were like,

427
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: it's so you got the job, and I was like,

428
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm never doing so you didn't realize that it was

429
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: like an audition. No, I knew it was an audition,

430
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: but then I was like, oh, this is yeah. No,

431
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: I mean, and you were also doing I mean you

432
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: were like casting recruiting because you never actually did any

433
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: like longitudinal studies for medications. Dude, you just made a

434
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: movie about those people. Yes, it's much more like all

435
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: of the casting I've done is like truly just going

436
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: out to people on the street just and like handing

437
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: out flyers that just say like, hey, like I to

438
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: a fecal No, no, no no, ay, guest or bypass informational

439
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: session a Mount SINAI to recruit for obest people who

440
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: might want a fegle metal transplant plant and be filmed. Okay, yeah,

441
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: this is really gross. Slowly, you're really really twisted anyway,

442
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: a little different than handing up flyers. But I do

443
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: feel like it is so flyer girl to be like

444
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: wrongly accused of murder. It's just like you're kind of

445
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: putting yourself in these situations. And like I'm you know,

446
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: and I'm so like proud of her for doing that

447
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: and trying to like take charge of her study broad experience.

448
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: But it's a little bit just like that's a scam job,

449
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: and you need to know that that's a scam job.

450
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking about you because that's a scam

451
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: job in America, you know, I'm saying about you abroad,

452
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: and like, would you have gotten accused of murder in

453
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: kind of an a scenario scenario like this, you know.

454
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: I kept like relating to her obviously at the beginning,

455
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: because she was like, I don't want to leave, I

456
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: want to be a part of this murder investigation. And

457
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: I was like I totally get that, and wanting to

458
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: be like, yes, like I'm not just gonna like abandon

459
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: this situation, like my roommate was murdered. I want to

460
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: help people figure it out. Maybe I could be useful

461
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: because they're they're in the beginning. She doesn't realize when

462
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Meredith is murdered. She doesn't realize like she is a suspect.

463
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: So she keeps on like going to the police and

464
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: like giving them information and like telling them this whole

465
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: story about how like Raphael's like fridge started leaking and

466
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: they were like cooking this fish. I know it's like

467
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: completely unnecessary that did happen, but it's like you don't

468
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: need to be telling them police this, and like you

469
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: don't need to be so showing up and being like

470
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm just like a skimpy, innocent, like naughty American girl

471
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: who you like want to do the crime. It's like

472
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: she wasn't putting that together and like she says, like

473
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: I can't believe any of it, can't believe any I

474
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: do feel like I would be a lot more suss

475
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: of the police than her. Will not be like cooperating

476
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: with them, because like I've had bad experiences with the police,

477
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: and I'll put it back then, but I feel like

478
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: because that time when you went to London, no, okay,

479
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: you're sorry, and I and I did get to port Yeah,

480
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: and they were like what are you here for? And

481
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: you were like, I think journalism, I want to teach piano,

482
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: I want to write a book. I want to work

483
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: for the London like spectator. And they were like, do

484
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: go home. You don't have a work visa by and

485
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: they send you instantly back home the way that I

486
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: am because I was being so naive, I was just like, no,

487
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: like you can just like talk to like the UK

488
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: Home Office, like they're nice people. And they ultimately did

489
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: put me in an interrogation cell and it was just

490
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: like me and six other Muslims and like it was

491
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: just this guy like across the table from me, just

492
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: being like you said you wanted to work, and I

493
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: was like Hillary Clinton and You're like, I don't know

494
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: about you. I'm supposed to get a job in media studies.

495
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Hillary Colligible answer, I swear Martha Coakley. Maybe neither Hillary

496
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: nor Martha picked up the phone. They did march me

497
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: through Heathrow with my wrists bound in a in a

498
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: in a twisty tie. Absolute canoe, and then I was

499
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: sent on a plane back to not New York City

500
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: but Washington, DC, where I spent a week in hiding.

501
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: Your family couldn't find you. I was ashamed. It was

502
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: the shame couldn't go back home. So yes, maybe I

503
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: would have like stupidly stayed and been so like flouncy,

504
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: flirty and my like skinny, like cheap mondays, this is crazy.

505
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: I can't believe he got murdered. She is so like

506
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: purple or like maroon converse to me, like a weird color,

507
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: like not a punk color. She's like, these are hello, dope,

508
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: these maroon gone first? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I didn't

509
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: even say lavender. Yeah, which is starting to get into

510
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: just like cheesy girl territory. But it's like she's on

511
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: the boarding line. That's why I think purple is right. Yeah,

512
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: I think it's more purple because that's like the bisexual color. Um,

513
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: there's this and the media really really clung on. So

514
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: in between when she hasn't been like fully accused yet,

515
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: the apartment is a murder scene, right, so she can't

516
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: go in, So hern Rafael go shopping for clothes because

517
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: she literally has no underwear, so she goes to this

518
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: random mass store in the piazza, and I remember saying

519
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: the taboo it's all about this, about how like she

520
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: had already murdered, and that she went and her and

521
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Rafael went to go buy like sex more sexy clothes,

522
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: like celebratory murder lingerie. Yeah, it's absolutely insane. But of

523
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: course you're reading this store, You're like, wow, this bitch

524
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: is insane amount. Yeah, I was just like, fuck, yes,

525
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: I love Amanda Knox. Like she's buying like crazy cheap,

526
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: slutty like red lingerie after murdering this girl. Like and

527
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: this is also what's so nerdy about it, because like

528
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: nerdy girl doesn't even know that you like can go

529
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: to like the random supermarket that's like kind of outside

530
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: of the city center to get underwear in an European village.

531
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: It's like she's actually just going to like the weird

532
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: store that nobody shops at, that like literally no one's

533
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: top set, that just has like five weird tanking ease.

534
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: And then of course they were photographed like making out

535
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: outside of the store, and she was like those were

536
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: kisses of comfort and they were and they were and

537
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: because so have you seen the documentary in Netflix, so

538
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 1: ahah but like actually about years ago, and what I

539
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: really took away from that was they're so messy. Yeah,

540
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: the police messy. I mean at least literally known for

541
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: being like the sloppiest country, most confused, because they're just

542
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: like two pasta pizza and just are like, oh, I

543
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: don't It's like the trains are like you normally like

544
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: two and a half hours late, or they don't write

545
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: at all, and not of them that it's like so

546
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: catholic in medieval and everyone is just right. But it's

547
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: like the whole documentaries just like they're trampling all over

548
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: the crime scene for months. The video is what The

549
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: video of the police looking at the apartment is one

550
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: of the craziest messiest things you've ever seen. Like it's

551
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: almost like Jackass level like the show, Like there are

552
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: no gloves, they're walking over everything, they're touching every piece

553
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: of evidence with their own their own barians and like

554
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: moving stuff around and like picking it after and going

555
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: back and forth and back and forth. And then of

556
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: course it's like the oldest, most conservative like Italian prosecutor

557
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: just being so like we found her DNA everywhere and

558
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: it's like well, she lived there. She lived there, and

559
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: her DNA like wasn't in the room, which is also

560
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: so like just kind of classic like weird roommates are

561
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: not actually that close to you thing where it's like

562
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: they weren't actually really hanging out that much. No, And

563
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: when I watched that documentary, I have to say, I

564
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: felt like a fucking fool for believing all the tablids

565
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: and I was, well, I think, you know, it was

566
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: a different time, and I will say, you know, over

567
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: the past ten years, I think, you know, means vision

568
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: of police visions has really changed, I think globally to

569
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: me and just the average person now has so much

570
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: more suspicion of the police, and we understand that like

571
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: not just like in every possible case, the police are

572
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: going to try to just find people guilty and they're

573
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: just going to try to twist the evidence to fit

574
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: their version of the crime. And like whether it's in

575
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: like a murder trial or if it's just like police

576
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: like pulling some random person over, Like we know that

577
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: this is how they operate. They're bullies, and it's kind

578
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: of like this story and the exception to that is

579
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: actually like the rare thing, not the reverse. No, she

580
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: says a wild statistic ninety five percent. I think of

581
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: it was like Italian like murders. They're all they've proven guilty,

582
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: because it's like, yeah, they're all just being like, uh,

583
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: absolutely guilty. It's literally thirteen fifty two over there, and

584
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: they're just being like, oh, her head is a darker

585
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: probably except if you're in with certain families in the village. Yeah,

586
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: you're a bad boy. Just getting a little bit into

587
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: Huston flowers. Okay, So basically Meredith gets well, this is

588
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: brutally murdered. Meredith gets murdered. I just thought of another

589
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: absolutely wild thing that the police does that felt like

590
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: fully law in order or like an NCIS thing that

591
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: they pull is that they just tell her that she's

592
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: HIV positive. That was so crazy. I didn't even know

593
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: that part. And they're just like, Amanda, we have something

594
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: to tell you you have HIV and she's like, what's like,

595
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: literally whom I get? And she's also so condoms because

596
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: it's two thousand and seven and like every circle was

597
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: using condoms done, and she's like, I've only had sex

598
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: with seven people when we use condoms all them And

599
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: then the next day it was like a story just

600
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: like a man the fuck seven then anything gives them

601
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: all HIV and then it was like months later they're like,

602
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we like did a test and you actually

603
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: don't have HIV won of her like wise, like crazy

604
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: friends at the prison like did tip her off to

605
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: be like they could just be faking things still like

606
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: so you like say weird stuff, but obviously you're going

607
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: to freak out if they tell you of HIV. Yeah,

608
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: so no, it's insanity. And then okay, Also they arrest

609
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: her after like a couple of days where they're like

610
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: putting together this completely fake case. Also, let's say, so

611
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: the murder was we still don't know actually who committed it.

612
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: That's not true. There's someone in jail for it now, Yeah, Rudy,

613
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: good day, But I bet we don't. I mean, like

614
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: we don't know right there is I'm not so inclined

615
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: police process of this. And Rudy has suggested maybe there

616
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: was another person there, like I could see it obviously

617
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: Rudy was involved. Um so there definitely I think was

618
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: another person and we don't know, and it's kind of

619
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: like and we'll never fall Yeah, but but Rudy's DNA

620
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: is all over the thing, and this is what during

621
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: the trial, they have a speed trial for Rudy. So

622
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: Rudy is like this West African immigrant from Ivory Coast

623
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: and they're just have they have this very quick trial

624
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: from the him and they're like, oh, no, he definitely

625
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: did it. But then we're still gonna Amanda and Raphael

626
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: because like we're sticking to her insane like the sex

627
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: story so much crazy murder story even though there Danny

628
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: is like nowhere and it's only there because of contamination.

629
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: They're like, no, Rudy did it, but Amanda was the

630
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: one holding the knife, and she's like a sinful whore

631
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: who like did this game. It's so crazy that you

632
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: can just have a separate, quick little trial for someone

633
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: and then be like like that was the classic like murderer,

634
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: but like we actually have a really good story. Yeah,

635
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: back to the story. Anyway, everyone loves this and they're

636
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: like sticking to the story for so long. Also okay,

637
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: but back to things at the police is wrong of

638
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: the contamination obviously, the HIV was really rude. Um when

639
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: that that woman hits her, oh that's insane, and she

640
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: literally like all of these like Italian investigators are yelling

641
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: at herdage like confessed this murder, and one point one

642
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: of the women just literally smacks her in the back

643
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: of the head and it's just like just that. She's

644
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: like okay, And so that's when she she says that

645
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: she thinks in the owner of Lachik did it right,

646
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: so and blameson on Patrick. Yeah, the owner of Lachik,

647
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: who's also African, but I think he is West Africa,

648
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: African War Morocco's in Africa. I knew that. I actually

649
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: knew that well because I've seen a photo of him

650
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: and I think and I've read about I feel it.

651
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: I want to say, like, you know, well fact checks

652
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: that because I'm not going to say anything because I'm

653
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: not like the Italian police and I'm not going to gas. Yeah.

654
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, was Amana Knox Karen a little there when

655
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: she was like, you know what, I'm just gonna kind

656
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: of blame it on the black club owner, who I

657
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: do think. Well, they had brought him up though, because

658
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: they had may we're bringing up her text with him.

659
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: She had she had texted him being like, oh, like

660
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna he was like, you don't need to

661
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: come into the bar and then she was like, Okay,

662
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: see you later. They're like, why did you say see

663
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: you later? You were planning to meet because that was

664
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: the also insane Italian thing because she was like see

665
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: you later. The translation was like an American is see

666
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: you later means like goodbye, and Italy it's like a promise.

667
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah's a promise to see someone. Why would you meet

668
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: up with him? And so, as you've seen in many

669
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: crime shows, the police can just twist your words. Yeah,

670
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: and you're in a crazy fog, yeah that you just

671
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: say something. And then this was so funny. At the

672
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: end of the book, they describe her like Amalie her

673
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: favorite movie I'm sorry Settle Believe Seattle tattooed on my

674
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: back that that actually was like the winning defense. When

675
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: they finally appeal the case to the Supreme Court of Italy,

676
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: her lawyers are like, she's actually the Amalie of Seattle.

677
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: So she's really quirky, really quirky, and like loves to

678
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: dance at random and like, yeah, you said something to her,

679
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: she might get so confused that she would like make

680
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: a totally weird story, a weird story about this weird

681
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: sorry and that's why she's like, doesn't seem like she's

682
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: acting in the proper way, for like the roommate of

683
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: a murdered British like would Alma? They literally are just

684
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: like would Amalie murder? No? I rest my case. Or

685
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: it's like if they'd said that the beginning, that would

686
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I guess that's true, would not the

687
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: beginning of the book, Like Amanda lets you know, because

688
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: she knows that's what got her off. But she like

689
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: says in the book multiple times how Amalie is her

690
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: favorite movie. Well, it's crazy that she stills a positive

691
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: connotation with it because they watched it the night that

692
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: Meredith of murder. But then that's what got her off.

693
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: At the same time, right, it's so away, this movie

694
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: is so pivotal, and her life is kind of insane,

695
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, but at that time, do you know how

696
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: huge Amalie was, like running the world? Who runs the world?

697
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm reminded of a great Cape ber Land quote. I

698
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: believe it is when she said people loved Amalie because

699
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: she didn't speak and a man just spoke, and Amanda

700
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: spoke too much. And if they if they just could

701
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: have like portrayed her as like no, no, no, no no no.

702
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: She is like the quiet, meek, like cute, coquettish, like

703
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: silent girl. She'll be quiet, she'll be quiet. You know

704
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: you need girls to be quiet, you know. I think

705
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: I heard I could be mixing this up. But I

706
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: heard once from a friend who went to Italy and um,

707
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: they said they didn't hook up, and a friend it

708
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: wasn't me and from them told the reason why they

709
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: didn't it is because like they weren't being like docile

710
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: and like they're too loud American girl. But like I thought,

711
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: telling guys like an excuse sounds like your friend wasn't

712
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: like girls they do. They do like they like honey.

713
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: Italian men like anything that looks like that heart that

714
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: meme account. I follow hardcore Italians, Like every meme is

715
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: just so like a photo of a spiked heal and

716
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: it's just being like, don't make an Italian woman angry. Yeah, sassy.

717
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: Italian men love sassy American women. They love coquetish American women.

718
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: They love sassy breats. But I think they're horn dogs. Amanda,

719
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: she's a mix. She like is a sassy American, but

720
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: she's also just like a nerdy I mean American, too

721
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: dorky for most people. I just saw in my notes

722
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: this style that she had when she's describing her style

723
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: in like high school as hiking boots with dresses. Yeah,

724
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: I mean we'll get into that. And what is she

725
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: defines her personality like she's at it right? Can we

726
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: talk about her sell makes Yeah, let's have her something.

727
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: So her first helmmate what's her name, goof goofa who

728
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: was like really like butch right or like bald. She

729
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: was just like old and had scabs that she was

730
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: picking out a line and she sounded really creepy. She's

731
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: had a like gallum but then she has always just

732
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: been like but ultimately like I did think that she

733
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of like wanted to care about me in the

734
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: same way that like a cat who likes you will

735
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: bring you a dead mouse, right, because she's like is

736
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: it completely insane? And is like you know they probably

737
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: meant to the ill. Yeah, um, but like would do

738
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: weird favors for Amanda and know that a cat bringing

739
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: you a dead mouse? But then she does refer isn't

740
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: she does refer to some lesbian prison mates. Yeah, we

741
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: were getting there okay, do you want to read the part? Sorry,

742
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: I got too I'm being too herny nerdy American girl.

743
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: Now I was moving named miss Sarah, so this is

744
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: like she's already had like a bunch of other selmates.

745
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Goofa is gone young with the tallin of a model.

746
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: She worked as a delivering meals from a rolling cart,

747
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: so she was like waitress made in the prison. She

748
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: was also my weekly guitar class, another prison rehabilitation activity

749
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: like movie time. Amanda's so big huge acoustic guitar. Oh

750
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: yeah huge, It is always like playing the Beatles. Go on.

751
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: Sarah had managed to make her sell homie clean and organized.

752
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: There were bright colored sheets in the beds, postcards taped

753
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: to the walls, and a collar for curtain tied to

754
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: the bars of the window. So she's being so like

755
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: a YouTuber, like clean esthetic, but like also a succulent girl.

756
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: We had a heart to heart talk while I unpacked.

757
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: She was sitting cross like it in the bed closest

758
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: to the window. I should probably tell you right off

759
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm best sexual, she said. That's cool. I replied I'm not,

760
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely live and let live. You're not my

761
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: type anyway, She said, I thought she might be gay

762
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: when you asked to live with me, but I decided

763
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: you weren't. She hesitated. You know your phone was settlements

764
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: such a spoiled and so then so she has a

765
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: sup and you rum roll, please the kid kiss, Okay,

766
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: I'll give to the kiss. One morning, when I was

767
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: walking into the bathroom to put something away, I bumped

768
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: into Sarah and she kissed me on the lips. I

769
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: just stood there staring at her, too surprised. No to say,

770
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: your face is telling me that was not okay, She

771
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: said quickly, I'm really sorry. She never made physical advances

772
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: after that, but she did once ask if I was

773
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: curious what I was like to have sex with a

774
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: woman like her. My stock answer, an emphatic no. Made

775
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: her feel bad. It's like, obviously Sarah's trying to hit

776
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: I scream about scream when this happened. Is this also

777
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: so her not being a murderer. It's like your entire

778
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: flick four years an Italian prison and you only got

779
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: kissed by accident ones by a woman. It's like, right,

780
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: like if she was a murderer, she would be fucking yeah. Well,

781
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: because family bisexuals were murderers. Yeah. No. Sarah, on the

782
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: other hand, did commit the crime because she was confused

783
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: with killing her boyfriend, although me we not but probably. Okay,

784
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: other things that are int sanding about they telling just

785
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: this is how they take a two month vacation. She's like,

786
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: you're kidding, right, And the guy goes, I need to

787
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: have a longer vacation my daughter, and she goes, your daughter.

788
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: I haven't seen my mom in months. It's wild. How

789
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: her parents, I mean, yeah, they like moved to Perusia,

790
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: her stepparents do they would you move to Marseille if

791
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: I was in a prison convicted of me, yes, oh

792
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: my god, thank you so much. Yeah, I would absolutely,

793
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: and I would like be so because I want to

794
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: be so um huge table, take out, tons of papers, ye, spinders, binders,

795
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, hold on, wait a second. Here's an

796
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: email from Stephen asking to return an item this time

797
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: match it doesn't match up with what the prosecution doesn't match.

798
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: I think we found it. I think we found our whole. Okay.

799
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I just don't think that her lawyers were good, and

800
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm kind of shocked that she's still so in love

801
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: with them, and I feel like it is stalcomton her

802
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: because at the very end of the acknowledgment, she's still

803
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: just like, thank you Luca, like like the director of

804
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: their names hardly what is it? It's close Luciano and

805
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Carlo whatever, Thank you Luca. The end when she's freed

806
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: and her mom hands her her BlackBerry and she can't

807
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: figure it out and the mom is like touch screen

808
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: and she's like, I didn't know how to use a BlackBerry.

809
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen an iPhone before. What it crazy to

810
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: him to go into jail, like right at the launch

811
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: of the iPhone? Literally you don't even know how to

812
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: be be like she I think she knew what a

813
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: BlackBerry was, but like hadn't like had used like a

814
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: newer BlackBerry. And when they asked her, this is what

815
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: she missed most from the real life. Do you remember

816
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: her friend? When did you sushi? She looks so patriotic

817
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: and starts, I mean, I guess whatever, if you're in president,

818
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: you go crazy. She starts like singing the spar Spangled

819
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: Banner every morning with like this like Peruvian next pot. Yeah,

820
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean she because at first she's just singing Beatles

821
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: songs because she's and then she like does in cat

822
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: Power and she's like, yeah, I'm mindy. I love Emily

823
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: cat Power. And now a clip from this week's vip

824
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: Lounge Hilo of the Night was this girl comes up

825
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: and we all assume she's like the manager of the

826
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: restaurant and is talking to us, and then comes back

827
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: later and she just goes, do you guys think guys

828
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: I work here? And we're all like yeah, and she goes,

829
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't, I'm just really friendly and then goes, wait,

830
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: why are you guys like all wearing like Irish hats

831
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: And everyone's like, oh, she's getting married in Ireland and

832
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: she goes, wow, that's so awesome. I'm adopted. So go

833
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: over to patreon dot com slash CBC the pot and

834
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: subscribe and hear the whole thing on Friday segment day.

835
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: What does she eat? What she eat? The sushi? Sushi,

836
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: She loves the sushi. And she's a trying cappuccinos. Oh

837
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: would you prison her prison cappuccinos? This is so Italian prison.

838
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: She's like, in prison, we would do cappuccinos by taking

839
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 1: coffee and milk and shaking it really hard, but never

840
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: really worked. And it's like Okay, it's still crazy that

841
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: they're doing shaking espresso in Italian prison. You don't have

842
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: to like fake a cappuccino. I feel like she is

843
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: so brown rice and like seattle and whole foods. So yeah,

844
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: she loves sushi's brown rice sushi. She's going to whole food.

845
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: She's grabbing whole food sushi. I mean she was making

846
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: the most just like normal memeal, just like tomatoes. When

847
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: the Knight, she keeps talking about how the murder, like

848
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: what they think is the murderment, which is just a

849
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: knife they found in Rothfield's apartment, right the fish. I

850
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: was surprised by the college fish. But she it's like

851
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 1: they are in Italy and she's like me and roth would.

852
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: There's a point in the book when she says repeatedly

853
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: over and over to the police what she said they

854
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: did that night. She goes, we made fish, we smoked

855
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: a joint, we watched Harry Potter, we had sex. Oh sorry, Emily,

856
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was her. No, they were reading reading German. Okay,

857
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: read eating Harry Potter in German, watch normally, And then

858
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: she repeats it again, we smoked a joint, we had

859
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: and they were like how do you not know if

860
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: you had dinner or like had sex first, And she

861
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: keeps me like, maybe we did have sex before we

862
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: made this random fish and tomatoes. So yeah, I think

863
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,280
Speaker 1: it's she's so bootible, you know, to get into buddhis stuff.

864
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: You know. It makes me feel so sad about this

865
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: whole thing, is that it actually just like kind of

866
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: ruined her lust for Europe and for Italy. It's like

867
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: that's like one of the most painful losses of all,

868
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: even more than her good friend Meredith's. Like, now she

869
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: can't be like so in love with having an espresso

870
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: in the morning, no, because it's like, as a young

871
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: you dubbed student, Yeah, she was so excited to go

872
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: to the chic and go to the cafe and have

873
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: espressos and go to a football game, and now she

874
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: has to just be so I mean, she's probably more

875
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: just like tea now. I mean, she also Starbucks, though

876
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: she lives in Seattle's coffee central. M it's so corporate.

877
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: Though she's pretty, she goes to other roasterrees. I'm just

878
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: saying the city of Seattle, I know it's a coffee town, now,

879
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: I got it, Okay, drop it. But I mean the thing,

880
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: it is so like I was wrong Polly in prison

881
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: for four years to be like tea, but she was

882
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: so grateful for the cappuccino post. Okay, you're right, all right,

883
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm pushing Tea. I need to realize, no doubt, there's

884
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: fuck ton of tea in her house. There's a there's

885
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: a she's like, she's like yeah, yeah, she's like, oh

886
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: I have this amazing darjeeling. Yeah, a lot of options. Okay, Um,

887
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: she's still very mornings. That's one thing she didn't because

888
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 1: like prison is so seven thirty am wake up call. Yeah,

889
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: I don't see her staying out late because I think

890
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: even like she describes those kind of like really sad

891
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: night and it's how like how they get her law

892
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: is because like the murder happens around Halloween, and like

893
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: she calls Mary, she doesn't really have like so much

894
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: to do on Halloween. Oh yeah. And then waiting, Meredith

895
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: goes to that amazing dinner party. Ye okay, so funny

896
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: you're Meredith, because I was like, wait, am I Meredith, Wait?

897
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: Can I just pull this part up really quickly? Because

898
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: it's like Amanda's just being so bored and she goes, howherely,

899
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't know, everyone's drunk and like being

900
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: so boisterous that it makes me uncomfortable. And then they're

901
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: they're kind of like going over last night in the

902
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, just like day before, Meredith's about to

903
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: get brutally murdered. What did you end up doing last night,

904
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: I asked, Meredith goes. I went to a dinner party.

905
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: It was amazing. They filled a surgical gloat with water

906
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: and froze it to make an ice hand. It looked

907
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: cool floating in the punch bowl. Then we all went

908
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: dancing at Merlin's, Meredith's favorite pub. And it's so British

909
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: girl to like not really be doing anything so Italian.

910
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: She was British, so it was like was it looked

911
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: so cool looking floating in the punch bowl. Then we

912
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: all went dancing at Merlin's. Okay, wait, how does she live?

913
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: How does she live? I mean, I think she's still

914
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: like dorm style graduated. I want to say, like she's

915
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: a little like kipping this. I feel like her style

916
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: is a little bit like my sister in this way,

917
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: like I feel like she is tapestry. Yeah, no, I

918
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: was getting yet dearest sister just like studying abroad and

919
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: also just being so like soccer fem like racer back,

920
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: like that this she's literally wearing like this little cardigan

921
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: on the cover. That she's always looking like a light

922
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: gray little cardigan or sweater over like a purple or

923
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: dark green scoop neck. And in the same way my

924
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: sister I like, only has like really slutty outfits or

925
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: just like yoga pants and like a gray knit cardigan hoodie. Yeah,

926
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: it's just like body con or like full floor length

927
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: to bet and skirt yeah, bet and skirt and like

928
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: and just like like random wicker table. And I think

929
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: she has like an old cat. Oh my god, she

930
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: cat and like I think the TV is on like

931
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: Mitten's has the degenerative condition. Um. Also again I keep

932
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: on going back to Maroon. I think it is kind

933
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: of like a pretty deep, comfortable Maroon couch. Um. Yeah,

934
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: and just some Indian ex sense really good espresso cups. Um.

935
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: She is married now and has a kid. So and

936
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: she said she wanted when she she wrote a little

937
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: letter to herself right before the verdict came down in

938
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: the appeal and it was what she'll do if she

939
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: gets out of jail and it was like, go to

940
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: u W, like take a creative writing class, like get

941
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: married Mary, become a momme a mom. But she's like,

942
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: if I can't do that, she was like obsessed, was

943
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: just still being UW. She was like, and if not,

944
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: I'll do like w classes. Yeah, if I stay in

945
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: prison for the next twenty five years, I do want

946
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: to do remote u dubs go Washington. I guess, like

947
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: go Bobcats or something. It's like, okay, give it up.

948
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: But okay, who are you in the well? So now

949
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: you think I'm actually married. I thought I don't want

950
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: to get any murdered. Right, Yeah, now I think you're married.

951
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: But you're also like a little Raphael And this just

952
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: like Sailor Moon. I'm not that Sailorman. Yea, I'm Morny

953
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: and Dennis a Gelly get we're dragon ball Zy. Sorry, okay,

954
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: so you're I mean, yeah, you're a Meredith, a little

955
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: bit of Amanda, but like more Meredith because you're like

956
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: British and study abroad. Yeah, I do think I'm more

957
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: British than Honestly, I'm more British than Seattle, right, because

958
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: it's like you're a little more like, oh, instantly made

959
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: twelve friends and they're like oh yeah, no, Like I

960
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: will go to like the Biata grocery store with my roommate,

961
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: but like not inviting her, maybe to this thirty Like

962
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm definitely sleeping with random guys that I'm meeting, but

963
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: it's not the guy at the coffee shop. Like, yes,

964
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 1: Amanda meets Raphael at a classical concert? Yeah, um, am

965
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: i Rachel the lesbian prisoner? Or am I more like

966
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Sirah the bisexual something? Yeah? Have you ever thought of girl?

967
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: She is so like to the world that girls definitely

968
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: played by world. Also, they need to make a better

969
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: movie of this because the Pavie is just like such,

970
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: we need a new you mean, an actual movie that's

971
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: like good, Yeah, like an update. And I think Sophia

972
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: coupla good who I saw this weekend? Oh my god,

973
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: vip lounge. Wait, I need to hear that story shaking shaking, Um,

974
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: are you more the evil? Like probably Italia? I was

975
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: an Italian prosecutor who's like not using gloves and I

976
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: feel like I'm like, you're definitely so messy at a

977
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: crime scene. No no, And I'm just like it doesn't matter,

978
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: like it will basically be the same, Like you won't

979
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: really be able to sell my handprints and I'm like

980
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: not having the gloves and I'm like your own bloody

981
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: pop prints like all over the bed. All right, Okay,

982
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: I loved this book. Yeah, I give it four and

983
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: a half stab wounds out of five. I give it

984
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: four point six. Torrented Amalies on Adult I don't think

985
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: she's the most amazing writer, but she she's actually not

986
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: bat a writer either. It's like, no, she's pretty like

987
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: thorough with her like you know, turning the mirror on herself. Well,

988
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: that's what's cool about it, is like all the details,

989
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: every detail that she's giving to you is because it's

990
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: she's waiting to be hurt. Yeah. Basically, it's like all

991
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: of them are little clues for the case, Like there's

992
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: a reason she's saying she's describing each guy. She builds

993
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: an amazing case. She is her best she's her own lawyer,

994
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: she's her best lawyer. So and I'm like what she

995
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: went through and she and she also doesn't make it

996
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: a little too like sob for me. No, no, no,

997
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: she's not self pitying and she's and she's only like

998
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: and when she is, it's very clear that that's like

999
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: coming from her own, like emotionally insecure place. She's saying like, oh,

1000
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: I felt like so stupid that I was so native

1001
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: kind of thing, you know, and it's like you feel

1002
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: that in the moment, but it's not her trying to

1003
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: like be like, can you believe how how tough it

1004
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: is for me a Seattle You can't believe like you

1005
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: had to do this, Like she kind of like, yeah,

1006
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: this was my crazy cellmaid and then like I kissed

1007
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: in the bathroom, and and it makes it a lot

1008
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: more affecting. Um, it really does. So I would say,

1009
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: good job, I'm glad I heard you. Yes, yes, you

1010
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: have been been heard heard hard. Okay. Club kids, well

1011
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: be careful and don't be naive, and don't don't trust

1012
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: the Italian players. Yeah, don't, don't become an Italian policeman. Okay.

1013
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: Best Yeah, I mean, well maybe they could change the

1014
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: system from the inside or yes, okay that's what I'm doing.

1015
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: That's going to happen. But just be aware when you're

1016
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,959
Speaker 1: going abroad. Yeah, be super aware, super safe and grab

1017
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:53,080
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