Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kate Erlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak.
Speaker 2: And this is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between
Speaker 2: two obsessive friends.
Speaker 1: Two untamable intellects.
Speaker 2: This is our hobby, This is our hell, This is
Speaker 2: our naked desire for free products. This is poog.
Speaker 1: Today's topics looselie speaking.
Speaker 2: Good thing, bad thing? Who knows? Hello?
Speaker 3: Lo, I look like you know the devastating truth of
Speaker 3: you know when you go, that's that's me.
Speaker 2: I was going to say to you, hey, let's not
Speaker 2: do a video today because I'm too ugly today, but
Speaker 2: I want to say this.
Speaker 1: You look the same as you always do.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Something happened, Something has happened. And I always
Speaker 2: heard about.
Speaker 3: This that just one day you age it's over. It's
Speaker 3: not over, but just kidding. No, No, I realized that
Speaker 3: outside it. But no, I was going to ask you
Speaker 3: because I noticed that you were suddenly like you were
Speaker 3: suddenly rapidly begging for a faith pillow okay, and like sending.
Speaker 1: Me video of you doing a lima laser.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, she's on one.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I you know, I'm Today's day four.
Speaker 2: I'm committing I want everyone to hear me. Here, fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes a day for the lima, you've got it out
Speaker 2: I'm doing. I'm committing to fifteen minutes a day for
Speaker 2: three months. That's what they say. And listen, I'm i
Speaker 2: gonna do it every day. Of course not, but I'm
Speaker 2: really gonna try. You have to and so and I'm
Speaker 2: now every night I'm going, oh, fuck my pillow, smashing
Speaker 2: my face, aging me rapidly as something happened. And I
Speaker 2: know this is what people say. Suddenly I'm running into
Speaker 2: some people seeing some photos online of people I haven't
Speaker 2: seen in years, like before COVID, and I go, damn,
Speaker 2: they really look old. And I go, well, then you
Speaker 2: must look old, bitch, you know what I mean. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: I have an age today and yet look at these people.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, it's me too, and necessarily like I
Speaker 2: feel I'm not over here, like truly miserable, like I'm
Speaker 2: you know, I love myself whatnot. But I am like,
Speaker 2: I am like, that's kind of mystifying to me.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh oh, and then here's a little morning drama.
Speaker 2: I get my invoice, I get in my inbox, my email,
Speaker 2: some notifications an invoice. Yeah, but I get I guess
Speaker 2: notifications from Amazon or refunding this order or refunding that order.
Speaker 2: I go, what's going on this probiotic that I've been
Speaker 2: ordering from Amazon? I've taken probably three hundred of these,
Speaker 2: the megaspore biotic. Okay, they go, it's counterfeit. They go,
Speaker 2: we recommend if you have this product in your house
Speaker 2: to throw it away immediately and discontinued use. Kate.
Speaker 1: I go, well, cool, I can't believe you got had
Speaker 1: like this? Do I so believe you got had?
Speaker 3: Right? Hold on?
Speaker 2: Do you think this is like mold or probably just
Speaker 2: like salt? You know what I mean? Like it's not poison?
Speaker 3: No, I think it would take more effort to like,
Speaker 3: you know, drum up some poison.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny. I've been like it works,
Speaker 2: and I've been I was off it for a while,
Speaker 2: and then the last two days I go, I gotta
Speaker 2: re you know, I got to bring my probiotic back
Speaker 2: in every day, and I go, it's really good. I
Speaker 2: do think my stomach's been feeling a little better the
Speaker 2: last couple of days. Full placebo with salt slash poison.
Speaker 3: Well, you didn't google to see what what someone I
Speaker 3: wouldn't there, just didn't figure it out.
Speaker 2: I have another poison alert. Another poison alert. This is
Speaker 2: really disgusting and actually kind of hard to admit. So
Speaker 2: my trad wife sippy cup that I carry around.
Speaker 1: This straw was disgusting. So I have my straw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I I disassemble the straw and I go,
Speaker 2: are you fucking kidding? It wasn't horrendous, but but but
Speaker 2: there was are you are you ready for this? A
Speaker 2: couple of black spots? Are you hearing this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I go, and there was salt and I get the
Speaker 2: what's it called salt? Pipe cleaner? Sorry? Soap? Yeah, soap? Oh,
Speaker 2: I go, I'm gonna be calm, but I go, well,
Speaker 2: I can't be trusted with a child. I go, this
Speaker 2: is crazy. Although I'm like, you hear, oh you gotta
Speaker 2: wash stuff. I go, God, I guess you really do
Speaker 2: have to wash some stuff?
Speaker 1: Well, right, you go, you go, you go?
Speaker 3: Surely you know you sell you the pipe cleaner?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I go, I can run some water through there. I go,
Speaker 2: it's water and water through there?
Speaker 1: You think it's water?
Speaker 2: How bad can I get oh.
Speaker 1: Just saliva kind of oh god, disgusting.
Speaker 2: So I've had this, really my hydrations at an all
Speaker 2: time love the last couple of days because I was
Speaker 2: so traumatized.
Speaker 1: That there's no safe vehicle.
Speaker 2: I washed. I washed it, and I'm seeing online and
Speaker 2: everyone goes, yeah, this is why you really want the
Speaker 2: wide mouth. I go, wide mouth? Could it's pouring all
Speaker 2: over me. It's not efficient like the poog bottle or
Speaker 2: I just yeah, like a poo bottle, or you know
Speaker 2: wh I do, just suck it up and start cleaning.
Speaker 2: I guess it's what I do every fucking day. I'm
Speaker 2: in there with the pipe cleaner and the salt and
Speaker 2: the soap. Shit, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: So, well, yeah, there's a few things, because you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I live a water bottle life every day,
Speaker 3: filling that up, taking it poo to the gym, right pooh?
Speaker 1: Well, no, I have my gray treadwive zippy cup.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I said it, but because I
Speaker 3: got it in a similar gray tone to the dress
Speaker 3: in this sort of like I'll always remember this time.
Speaker 3: And I got a brand because I wanted it to
Speaker 3: I wanted something to sit in in the cup perfectly.
Speaker 3: So I got the hydroflask via Backcountry. Remember I told
Speaker 3: you about Backcountry the store at the grove that I
Speaker 3: went in there and I said, it's like Ari, I okay,
Speaker 3: so it's.
Speaker 2: All coming back. It's all coming back, thank you.
Speaker 3: Now what was I using before? Oh my, a wala
Speaker 3: or whatever I was using and had a real wake
Speaker 3: up call opening up the Oh no, like getting into
Speaker 3: some corner it hadn't been in and going wow. Now,
Speaker 3: I'll also note I think we're all fine in the
Speaker 3: other way, like it's also completely you know, I don't know, okay,
Speaker 3: of course anything about it. But people are slobs. I
Speaker 3: mean in the eighties you think they were using pipe cleaners.
Speaker 2: No, no, completely, there's squirt bottles at the end of
Speaker 2: they were fine. But I did gasp when I looked
Speaker 2: in there and saw the color black A few black
Speaker 2: dots was bad, and I go, that's black mold. And
Speaker 2: I guess it's not black mold, but it's mold. That's black.
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily so guys. Uh but wait, hold on
Speaker 3: a couple of things. Wait, I wrote down in agony.
Speaker 1: What's that I don't know? Oh yeah, the probiotics.
Speaker 3: So you got I can't believe that you it happened.
Speaker 3: So this is a classic in.
Speaker 1: The skincare community.
Speaker 3: Okay on Amazon, is be careful because you know you're
Speaker 3: not getting pot in skincare.
Speaker 2: You're getting some fac o jacqueline, this probiotic.
Speaker 5: I gotta go.
Speaker 2: I go, guys, you're only refunding me. I've spent probably
Speaker 2: three hundred dollars on all I've gotten. I've gotten. It's gotten,
Speaker 2: I've gotten. Is that correct? Yeah? I have gotten, I
Speaker 2: have got it. Yeah. Literacy at an all time low.
Speaker 2: I went into a books for the other day, go,
Speaker 2: you don't deserve to be in here. I go in
Speaker 2: what led to this?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: This is just topics, say gotten, and felt like I
Speaker 2: don't know what words are anymore, and that my literacy
Speaker 2: has plummeted, devastating deleted Instagram yesterday They instantly improved. But
Speaker 2: I go into a book that before I know. I
Speaker 2: go into bookstore yesterday and I pick up books. I
Speaker 2: start opening the side the side flap. I go get
Speaker 2: to the point, I don't even have the I don't
Speaker 2: even have the fucking patience or the attention spanshy. I go,
Speaker 2: let's go to go through. No, not even a gift,
Speaker 2: just the side, the side. What the fuck? I don't
Speaker 2: even know what the word is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the inner jacket, the inner.
Speaker 2: Jacket, I go, this, I go, and a tale of
Speaker 2: I go, let's go, tale of what faster tiale of
Speaker 2: what I I am speeding through the inner jacket. Can't
Speaker 2: even do it. I've had ad D DOC circled on
Speaker 2: my calendar to call them. We got sent this this
Speaker 2: and repeat focused dietary supplement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that arrived yesterday. I noticed that I know
Speaker 3: who's it made by? Oh, it's made by and repeat? Right.
Speaker 1: Did it come with a pill bottle.
Speaker 2: A very elaborate pill box that I was having trouble with.
Speaker 3: Actually, well, because you were asking it to be more
Speaker 3: than it is, probably, yeah, like I was, because.
Speaker 2: I think there was a lower layer. Yeah, and I go,
Speaker 2: do I have to open this up?
Speaker 1: Something's gonna slide out.
Speaker 2: Nothing's going to open up hard Jacqueline.
Speaker 1: It feels like.
Speaker 2: Very hard to describe it by a radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll post it. Just felt like it had a
Speaker 3: lower level that was more.
Speaker 2: I know it was confusing, but thanks for sending it.
Speaker 2: Very curious as you can imagine. But then you know
Speaker 2: what I also saw, because I'm going, Okay, what am
Speaker 2: I gonna do? Get back on stimulants and ruin my life?
Speaker 2: All yeah, making people's brains bad or something?
Speaker 1: Really, where where's that coming from?
Speaker 2: I mean something I hardly saw planning something I saw
Speaker 2: sight in one eye as I was digest served to
Speaker 2: you after like fight videos after you read that other.
Speaker 1: Book, Hollowell. But I am, well, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: the ad D.
Speaker 2: Years Lost, Lives Lost, World Lost.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm going I'm going to have to. I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to have to.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's like, you know, like the idea of sanity
Speaker 3: being like you know whatever the group is doing right,
Speaker 3: like you know, the whole world were whatever. So it's
Speaker 3: like I'm like, oh, I guess I have to go
Speaker 3: out to the forest and just be like totally freey
Speaker 3: out there, right, But.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3: So instead I have to be like I am what
Speaker 3: I am here amongst the others, and it's becoming my
Speaker 3: own failure.
Speaker 1: Like talk about it. I'll tell you that later.
Speaker 3: But just like, oh, like it's real, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like like they came a calling.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean the add Okay, yeah, you'll tell me later.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'll just tell you later.
Speaker 1: But like you're going with tears, I love you, I
Speaker 1: love you.
Speaker 2: I love the tears fault. I get it. I was
Speaker 2: feeling yesterday, yesterday and today I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: like it's just.
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, I'm just how to cut
Speaker 3: it later but just too exhausting.
Speaker 2: But like this is the poets. Are you crying? It's
Speaker 2: the policing. I need those tears, you know. And by
Speaker 2: the way, Pooh is another example I mean of we
Speaker 2: struggle with poop Oh. Yeah, no, I I get into
Speaker 2: think just because we like I mean and to everyone listening,
Speaker 2: like thank you, like we we've we do anyone else
Speaker 2: we probably I was like texting you or I was saying.
Speaker 2: I was like, we haven't even posted images of our
Speaker 2: merch on our of our of our like that's so fun.
Speaker 3: I posted like flat ones like but this idea that
Speaker 3: we're going to take one photos together, like.
Speaker 2: Like bare minimum taking us like to move you. And
Speaker 2: it's like, what do you gotta do? All you got well,
Speaker 2: of course post photos of yourself on the shit. Can't
Speaker 2: get it together? Completely confused. Don't understand our contract.
Speaker 3: I've been completely fixated on every time there's like I'm
Speaker 3: dealing with something else that I really need to do,
Speaker 3: and I never got to my tears.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him in a minute and maybe they'll
Speaker 1: come back, right.
Speaker 3: But just like you know this, but it's like I
Speaker 3: log more hours just literally self fitty, but move through it.
Speaker 1: I log more hours working than.
Speaker 3: Like anyone, you know, and like I don't it doesn't
Speaker 3: make it out of my house or my computer, but
Speaker 3: it does.
Speaker 2: Jacqueline written a book. You were at the Emmys last week.
Speaker 2: It does make it out. I know it feels like it,
Speaker 2: but it does. It does make it out.
Speaker 3: And then I was like like like trying to clean
Speaker 3: them YouTube and seeing like YouTube videos from like two
Speaker 3: thousand sticks and.
Speaker 2: What would it make you say?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 2: What to make you think?
Speaker 3: Just like you know, like seeing like you know, like
Speaker 3: a comedy video like We're Fife.
Speaker 1: It was it was unlisted like.
Speaker 3: I'm private up years ago, but like you know, like
Speaker 3: basically like a child.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and like.
Speaker 3: I don't even know, like I mean, in general, the
Speaker 3: passage of time, Oh my god, it's like just too
Speaker 3: fucking much like I was thinking about last night.
Speaker 1: Like especially insane them.
Speaker 3: We're asked to live this way, okay, in a constant
Speaker 3: state of change. I know this is like everything, yeah,
Speaker 3: but like it's completely untenable okay, that you're literally always.
Speaker 1: So that's why I.
Speaker 3: Think that people are hooked on these ideas about like decades,
Speaker 3: like my twenties, okay, because like then they can they
Speaker 3: can think that time stops in their twenties and they're
Speaker 3: in a state of being in their twenties, and.
Speaker 2: Then you're in your ten thirties and then you're in.
Speaker 3: Right and you're static, your static right, but you're literally
Speaker 3: not well.
Speaker 2: I've always tried to figure this out and stand up.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a bit that I'll try to work on.
Speaker 2: I know we don't talk about you don't to base
Speaker 2: ourselves in that way by taking on specific bits. But
Speaker 2: I've always been like, I can't believe that we're the
Speaker 2: life is continuous, that it's constant. You're you're born, then
Speaker 2: you're alive the whole time until you do you're dead. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like that is fucking crazy. You you aren't allowed to
Speaker 2: reject for a couple of weeks ago, I died for
Speaker 2: four months and then I came back, and then I
Speaker 2: died like two years later for a week. You're just
Speaker 2: constantly alive. Like that's the most fucked up. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean there is no mercy.
Speaker 3: Well, that's why the only I mean, that's that's where
Speaker 3: like sleep, I mean it makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 3: like in this one way, like we break down like
Speaker 3: a machine, like and it makes good sense that we do, right,
Speaker 3: but like you literally cannot, like.
Speaker 1: You machine every night to the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after the brain. I mean it's washed with even
Speaker 2: a day. You would think you sleep every two weeks.
Speaker 2: Every two weeks. It's so much that you have to
Speaker 2: sleep every day.
Speaker 1: And and you're going.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for a bedtime tonight. It's one of
Speaker 2: those days. I go, let's get to bed.
Speaker 3: Well, it is interesting that sleep is enough to restore you.
Speaker 1: It's like I know, well things, I'm just lying there.
Speaker 3: It's weird in shutdown mode.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just sorry. In my dream you remember, I'll
Speaker 2: just say quickly to your sweetest thing in the world,
Speaker 2: my cat who meant the world to me, who died
Speaker 2: when I was ten. Rio, Oh fucking I come downstairs.
Speaker 2: Rio is there like a person puts his arms.
Speaker 1: Around me, like a person in which sense.
Speaker 2: And like with cat arms lifted up and put his
Speaker 2: cat arms around me. It's the sweetest thing. His eyes
Speaker 2: were filled with tears, like he was so excited to
Speaker 2: see me.
Speaker 1: I think it was a visitation. Means obviously I love you.
Speaker 1: Why at this time?
Speaker 2: I know why?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because life is hell? Yeah, we love it, God, we
Speaker 2: love it. But fuck endless lost new horrors at every
Speaker 2: turn you come around a corner. Oh no, horror, Well
Speaker 2: what else could happen? There's another horror beyond that next corner.
Speaker 2: But we keep going.
Speaker 1: You know that it's good, it's pretty good. But that thing,
Speaker 1: like you know, oh, let me let me pull it up.
Speaker 3: It's a good good thing. Yeah, reach first saying good thing?
Speaker 1: Bad thing? Who knows that?
Speaker 2: You told me? What is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I'm gonna get it because like I always Oh.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a parable to change my life. Is
Speaker 2: it a parable? I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: It's a SOUPI tale? Okay, you ready, let's go.
Speaker 2: You want to give it to me, give it to
Speaker 2: me hard.
Speaker 1: Wait, let me find it.
Speaker 2: I need tales. This is why fair. We have story reading.
Speaker 2: I mean it's narrative.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I was just trying to god, okay,
Speaker 3: because and I'm not fucking around. Okay, women who run
Speaker 3: with the wolves either, we go and do totally different
Speaker 3: new podcasts just about it.
Speaker 1: That, but that you need to work through it. You
Speaker 1: need to work through women who run with the wolves.
Speaker 2: I own it. It's at my parents' house.
Speaker 1: Crack the spine. Okay. There once was a farmer who
Speaker 1: owned a horse and had a sun.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say right now, this was told to me.
Speaker 2: I already know what this is. It's fucking changed my life.
Speaker 2: Was one I was gonna say, But the one that
Speaker 2: I have is like a Chinese interpretation, interpolation. I could
Speaker 2: go in. I used to understand language, I used to
Speaker 2: have ideas. I used to able to articulate myself. And
Speaker 2: then I got Instagram and I donated my life to it.
Speaker 2: And it ends again. I'm not doing it again. I'm
Speaker 2: getting it gets smart again.
Speaker 3: You'll yeah, Okay, Well, I was fed an article on
Speaker 3: Instagram that then I did run off to read New
Speaker 3: Yorker about you know, teen suicides and social media and
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 1: He was written by Andrew Solomon, who written undate demon.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, I'm pretty sure an article in the New Yorker.
Speaker 3: So you know, well, okay, no, I was just gonna
Speaker 3: I'll say it now because it never is a thing.
Speaker 3: But you know, we don't crassly work on bits okay
Speaker 3: on the show, as you were just saying. But I'll
Speaker 3: just since we did it once, I'll just acknowledge. It's
Speaker 3: just I have this like thing about parables Parle. He
Speaker 3: was just like, how I hate the parables, obvious idiot. Okay,
Speaker 3: Like it's just a dragon the story. So they're like
Speaker 3: there were three brothers. Yeah, first took the father's money
Speaker 3: and shoved it up his as and you're like, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: yeah him, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Do we need him, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when they really milk it, when they sit
Speaker 3: there as hell. Okay, There once was a farmer who
Speaker 3: owned a horse and had a son. One day his
Speaker 3: horse ran away.
Speaker 2: Because it's changed my life, all right.
Speaker 3: There once was a farmer who owned a horse and
Speaker 3: had a son. One day his horse ran away. The
Speaker 3: neighbors came to express their concern, Oh that's too bad.
Speaker 3: How are you gonna work the fields now? The farmer replied,
Speaker 3: good thing, bad thing who knows. In a few days
Speaker 3: his horse came back and brought another horse with her.
Speaker 3: Now the neighbors were glad. Oh, how lucky Now you
Speaker 3: can do twice as much work as before. The farmer replied,
Speaker 3: good thing, bad thing, who knows. The next day, the
Speaker 3: farmer's son fell off the new horse and broke his.
Speaker 2: Leg, and comes neighbors were concerned again.
Speaker 3: Now that he is incapacitated, he can't help you around.
Speaker 3: That's too bad. The farmer replied, good thing, bad thing,
Speaker 3: who knows. Soon the news came that a war broke
Speaker 3: out and all the young men were required to join
Speaker 3: the army. The villagers were sad because they knew that
Speaker 3: many of the young men will not come back. The
Speaker 3: father's son could not be drafted because of his broken leg.
Speaker 3: His neighbors were envious. How lucky you get to keep
Speaker 3: your only son. The farmer replied, good thing, bad thing
Speaker 3: who knows? Interesting it ended there? I could have it
Speaker 3: go on forever, I mean, because I thought i'd sort
Speaker 3: of remember it like.
Speaker 1: And he died, good thing, bad thing? You even knows?
Speaker 1: Like they really went there?
Speaker 3: I don't the one that I heard is this not
Speaker 3: the sound because something's a miss?
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah it is no, no no.
Speaker 3: I just had like, are you count no man lucky
Speaker 3: until he's dead? The other thing I just bring up.
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't care man lucky until he's I don't
Speaker 2: know what that is, but I just was saying what
Speaker 2: I heard was a similar story, but it didn't involve
Speaker 2: the good thing bad thing who knows repeating phrase at all.
Speaker 2: It just was like cow's similar things, sons like being
Speaker 2: broken interesting and then the army doesn't take him and
Speaker 2: it ended there. But who among us.
Speaker 1: It's the same story, no refrain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to go away for a week and
Speaker 2: only read, but I won't.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because I cracked open a couple couple
Speaker 3: of books just literally just to dip the toe in
Speaker 3: and and you know, restored within seconds, by the way,
Speaker 3: by restored within seconds, Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, I was like,
Speaker 3: and then I put it down, and I was like,
Speaker 3: should I go back for more?
Speaker 2: Didn't you know, never never being restored?
Speaker 3: This is interesting. I forgot I got this my and
Speaker 3: then I glanced up at my shelf. So many books
Speaker 3: that I'm excited about, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I all of which I know would lift me in
Speaker 1: the heavens. And but.
Speaker 2: That's why every day that I don't garden, it is
Speaker 2: a waste. Every day my hand's ont touch soil.
Speaker 3: Do you mean, oh I thought you meant. I thought
Speaker 3: you meant in the garden of the mind. No, wait, actually,
Speaker 3: do want to go back though to Lima and your
Speaker 3: your protocol.
Speaker 1: So you're funny, I know you.
Speaker 3: Okay, you get locked in on things you know, or
Speaker 3: you lock in and you've locked in on this fifteen
Speaker 3: minutes idea. Oh okay, now you know what I'm going
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 2: Right, wait, what do an hour?
Speaker 3: Well? Just no, but like you're because you're gonna want
Speaker 3: to glide all around the face, right, you're gonna gons
Speaker 3: what I'm I've.
Speaker 2: Been doing the serum all over, the glide serum, and
Speaker 2: then I'm doing the glacial paste all over, concentrating on
Speaker 2: eleven's because I felture's my forehead the last few months
Speaker 2: from all the like gruesome sobbing, I've had literal new lines.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's so crazy, Like I'm like, wow, that
Speaker 2: is like the beauty of aging or whatever, like the
Speaker 2: horror of it. It's like, yeah, you have like your
Speaker 2: cry for a few months, and your fucking face is
Speaker 2: altered as a result. But I'm still convinced the lines
Speaker 2: are superficial idea.
Speaker 3: In an age state, you are more malleable and reflective
Speaker 3: of what's going on. You're like a softer clay m
Speaker 3: kind of kind of. I was thinking about this today
Speaker 3: in the shower. I was thinking about how like the
Speaker 3: you know, youth leading the culture.
Speaker 2: There is no wisdom not there is no wisdom in you.
Speaker 3: And no like the youth should be out dancing to
Speaker 3: the songs of the ripe pan flute, the ripe, the
Speaker 3: ripe thinker, okay, and while they toil away at home
Speaker 3: and hope.
Speaker 1: To grow into I mean, that's that's what it should be.
Speaker 3: Like. It's so vile the idea of one's prime being
Speaker 3: you know, in the middle or something.
Speaker 2: It's don draper, don draper, death instantly. The young don't
Speaker 2: know anything, especially that they're young, and it's like it's
Speaker 2: like children have something to teach us, of course, but youth,
Speaker 2: I mean, just.
Speaker 1: A bunch of people with wisdom walking around ashamed.
Speaker 3: Okay, is like like it.
Speaker 1: Should be, and it serves it's like.
Speaker 2: God, I know, I I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it gets.
Speaker 3: Very thin and fast when and I believe that the
Speaker 3: the fully grown okay people do actually have to pick
Speaker 3: up the mantle if they are, if all they're doing
Speaker 3: is running around trying to worship the youth, then they
Speaker 3: themselves are neglecting to step up and say like here
Speaker 3: I am you know what I mean? Yeah, like no,
Speaker 3: like do your best work, you know whatever, Like I
Speaker 3: just I don't know. I've always wanted since I began
Speaker 3: fearing death as a teen, right, I was like, the
Speaker 3: only I can only tolerate life if it is not
Speaker 3: it is not me trying to drive towards some peak
Speaker 3: that's supposed to happen at a certain time and I
Speaker 3: better hit that peak and then dissent.
Speaker 1: No, I do not care. It has to be aiming
Speaker 1: for essentially better every year. And I know that's a.
Speaker 2: Little like horizontal, sounds a little goofy, but like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it's true.
Speaker 3: Like I want ninety nine even if I'm decrepit, Okay,
Speaker 3: I want to spiritually, emotionally, artistically for shit in my
Speaker 3: fucking top.
Speaker 2: For fucking sure, it's hard because the models for that, like,
Speaker 2: like I feel lucky that I I had some women,
Speaker 2: like I knew a woman who was like ninety five,
Speaker 2: who's like fucking had it together, amazing artists, like hair
Speaker 2: pulled back in a little ponytail, like gorgeous, elegant, like
Speaker 2: fucking had it. I mean, now, of course my fear,
Speaker 2: the fear of Alzheimer's, of course absorbing me in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night. But I know it's not crazy
Speaker 2: with Alzheimer's soon not to just spread fear. But I
Speaker 2: was talking about talking of my neurologists, and he was like,
Speaker 2: by the way, I gotta get that. I gotta get
Speaker 2: the facts right before I go, before I go on
Speaker 2: the radio with this well but something. He was basically
Speaker 2: talking about how common Alzheimer's is and how it's like
Speaker 2: basically if you make it and again like your own
Speaker 2: research or whatever, but it's like if you make it
Speaker 2: to eighty, like you're pretty like good, right, But it's
Speaker 2: like by seventies, there's some age where it's like half
Speaker 2: the fucking population has it. But they're like varying degree.
Speaker 2: Some people are completely fine and they're like never you know, spottable.
Speaker 2: Some people get dealt a fucking brutal hand. But it's
Speaker 2: like anyway, I'm just trying to figure. I was like,
Speaker 2: I was like, I got it because I was looking
Speaker 2: into this a while ago. But I was like, death
Speaker 2: with dignity for Alzheimer's, like has to happened. I was like,
Speaker 2: I gotta get that in my file now. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: I'm diagnosed, like, I want the fucking powder and a
Speaker 2: cup in my fucking mouth pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can do it in California or Portland
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: It was imagining like me and John Early delivering like
Speaker 3: I already saw a syringe in hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, split in two, Okay.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just joking that it's committed to each other.
Speaker 2: I'm glad it's committed to radio because that is what
Speaker 2: I want. But it's it's tricky because you gotta it's Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's very tricky with cognitive decline. It's much more difficult.
Speaker 2: It's much more re litigious and difficult than if you
Speaker 2: just you know, right, And I want to be clear,
Speaker 2: I'm not depressed.
Speaker 1: She's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Remember over there in the coffin. What's that problem?
Speaker 1: No, it was like Tiara being brought in.
Speaker 2: Wait, what the person is hugely deformed?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just in the well, of course you're ripped apart
Speaker 2: by chance, you're ripped apart by a chimp. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then they put a tiara on your head for your birthday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guy, you know it's also saves the day poog
Speaker 4: talking to you.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, like, like, no, it's good.
Speaker 3: I'm having the moment of like I just sort of
Speaker 3: like it was like you do more work than anybody,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, like that's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: No, you do do a lot of work. It's just.
Speaker 1: I don't know this. I don't know.
Speaker 3: This feels like a moment of turning over, you know this,
Speaker 3: This feels like the time of change.
Speaker 2: Something is in the fucking air.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, interesting, it's a.
Speaker 2: Big time no, I feel it big, really big, big
Speaker 2: time series. Oh well, three things. Well, first of all,
Speaker 2: there is as we know, yeah, I don't really know
Speaker 2: anything about this, but there no, there is something astrological,
Speaker 2: astrological going on always or whatever. But no, it's more
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Everything's gonna change twenty twenty seven. It's
Speaker 2: a big one. Yeah, that's the whole like paradigm shift,
Speaker 2: new energy, whatever, the dawning of all the old systems
Speaker 2: will fall apart in such and such. But the little
Speaker 2: systems are always falling apart.
Speaker 5: Folks.
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, you should try the probiotic that
Speaker 3: was sent to us by doctor b Oh.
Speaker 2: Fuck, it's in a powder. Yeah, I'm gonna do it tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: But it's all about if you introduce whatever to the gut,
Speaker 3: you strict feeding the gut.
Speaker 1: You have to keep feeding it the food.
Speaker 3: Like basically, it's like you take a probiotic and you stop,
Speaker 3: it goes away.
Speaker 1: You have to feed feed it.
Speaker 2: Have you been taking it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Do you have plans tonight?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I I why come on, just look me plans?
Speaker 2: Come to screening with me?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is there a screening or going to specifically cinema? Wait?
Speaker 1: Is today Russia? Sha? Or tomorrow tomorrow?
Speaker 2: I need to fall to my fucking eve and pray.
Speaker 2: I pray, I pray all the time.
Speaker 1: Kind of Yeah, the constant where's the altar?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: Just likely going? Where is my altar?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I know? Oh my god, I mean.
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess it has to be internal.
Speaker 2: No, we have to externalize. No, we need external alters.
Speaker 2: Downing as Celsius. That a girl.
Speaker 1: I think it did you get this in the mail? Fuck?
Speaker 2: No, it's at my old house. It's sent it to
Speaker 2: my old address. Oh really, yeah, is that is that? Wait?
Speaker 2: That's I say, Oh my god, amazing.
Speaker 1: Okay they sent us No.
Speaker 2: Size has been very good.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, the stuff. Just I love that we're just
Speaker 3: on their list. Don't you dare take us off? I
Speaker 3: pulled it up and pulled it open, and I go,
Speaker 3: I see all these different liners, right, the liners, And
Speaker 3: I go, O, don't know, did something happen where they
Speaker 3: accidentally put in three of the same color?
Speaker 1: Okay? I go, like, you know, maybe the promotional kits
Speaker 1: like things get a little sloppy in the gifting corner.
Speaker 1: And then I turned them and it says, no, they
Speaker 1: have different names on them.
Speaker 3: Okay, but I just want you to take a look
Speaker 3: because these are remarkably close and I can't think I
Speaker 3: have guy.
Speaker 2: What the color?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 2: What's the shade? Flirt?
Speaker 1: Wink?
Speaker 2: And but what are the shades?
Speaker 1: You mean? Like, how would I describe brown?
Speaker 3: Red?
Speaker 2: You said? They're so close in shade? What's the shade?
Speaker 3: They're like this very just I don't even know clayish,
Speaker 3: very like, can't get it out.
Speaker 1: I just want you to see because it's it's pretty.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's impressive, genuinely. It must mean I mean
Speaker 1: I assume this means they have like.
Speaker 3: An extensive range. And then I also am wondering where
Speaker 3: these bespoke. Did they look at my lips and say,
Speaker 3: you know you're one, You're one of these?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just want to get
Speaker 1: it out, but like, I don't know, those actually don't
Speaker 1: look that simwhere now in the light? All right?
Speaker 3: Sorry, So they've sent us one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
Speaker 3: nine nine.
Speaker 1: Lip glosses, lip boiled glasses. What are you going to
Speaker 1: do with that?
Speaker 3: Because you can't you can't keep them all, man, unless
Speaker 3: it because you're hero product, right.
Speaker 2: You can't keep them all.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you're allowed to keep them all.
Speaker 3: I just mean, are you gonna let them take over
Speaker 3: your oh make money?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm really I fucking bought bought,
Speaker 2: Remember I bought the gorgeous slipliner from the Hot Girl.
Speaker 2: It's gone. I was I was using it. It's gone.
Speaker 2: It is fucking gone, and I know that it must
Speaker 2: turn up. It's almost like a spirit took.
Speaker 1: It to pay for your objective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. Can you tell Ooh fuck, I
Speaker 2: want those colors. They're kind of like brownish pinkish horror colors. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's what I want. I have to go get them.
Speaker 1: And then I mean it's really Yeah, it's a real.
Speaker 2: Palette here, and then we thank you.
Speaker 3: See look, you know I would never go for it.
Speaker 3: I think, oh, there's no way this dark brown is
Speaker 3: gonna work on me.
Speaker 2: I loved here. It is here, it is it?
Speaker 1: Say okay, say how to say it? We always say
Speaker 1: how to say it?
Speaker 2: And by the way, yeah, I've been using there. I
Speaker 2: have to say. I've been using their tinted moisturizer stuff
Speaker 2: like every day. I'm like done with the bottle I've
Speaker 2: been using.
Speaker 1: Wait, is that the thing that's like bass milk or that.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's it's just a tinted sunscreen. It's like
Speaker 2: SPF thirty. It comes really Yeah. Did I miss that
Speaker 2: or or I may have purchased it out of pocket. No,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it came to us.
Speaker 1: And then we got this this serious kit from One Skin.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, One Skin, which fucking rules, and we used
Speaker 2: I use their skin serum down to the last goddamn
Speaker 2: drops squeezing it out. Me too, And I heard some
Speaker 2: hat got it and was like I love this stuff.
Speaker 3: I remember, yeah, yeah, So I it up and I go,
Speaker 3: I go, this is almost I start reading and I go,
Speaker 3: this is almost like content.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, big movement, actually be interested in this.
Speaker 1: I was like double blind placebo, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And then peptides and I just I can't for the
Speaker 3: life of me lock in.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: And then I overheard some gals praising the ever loving
Speaker 3: shit out of the biologicashers facial at the new you know,
Speaker 3: br spa or whatever and saying that it wasn't just
Speaker 3: like a one time spruce, like like a change.
Speaker 1: Their scared.
Speaker 3: And I still have yet to have a BR product
Speaker 3: in my house.
Speaker 1: I've never well.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, there's something going on there all the time.
Speaker 2: Go why did I ever get off br right?
Speaker 1: Why Bigo loves to seek and never to find?
Speaker 2: Say it a fucking I mean? And then I need
Speaker 2: to hear it again.
Speaker 3: Oh you could say that again. The ego loves to
Speaker 3: seek and never to find. Oh god, that's an episode.
Speaker 3: Oh oh one poog. Yeah, I think the people would
Speaker 3: sob to hear the recording of me like, you know,
Speaker 3: defending Poog.
Speaker 2: Definitely okay, So tailbone pain, having a total freak out,
Speaker 2: I started doing that again. I started doing some little homeworkouts.
Speaker 2: Melissa would getting back into it, fucking pain on the
Speaker 2: left side the cossacks. I go, not this again. Listeners
Speaker 2: may recall years ago I had a chronic tabone issue.
Speaker 2: Had a hairline fracture on my tailbone that was so painful,
Speaker 2: and it was a full nine months of every time
Speaker 2: I was sitting it was painful. I was having a
Speaker 2: board planes with a fucking hemorrhoid pillow, looking like I
Speaker 2: had my ass blown out. I had to go, it's
Speaker 2: actually not a hemorrhoid, it's my tailbone driving pain. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was like and I just go, I can't go
Speaker 2: back to that. So instead, yesterday I tried to do
Speaker 2: some like gentle working out, and it was really painful.
Speaker 2: I just got to stop. I can't do anything icing it.
Speaker 2: Today's actually slightly better. I don't want to get too excited,
Speaker 2: but I.
Speaker 1: Love having something nice.
Speaker 2: It's crazy when ice, because when you're icing something like
Speaker 2: my it was hurting me. Yesterday I sat on ice pack,
Speaker 2: and I'm like moaning, like it feels good when you
Speaker 2: actually get relief from the ice.
Speaker 1: You go, oh shit, I do need this real ice
Speaker 1: is real.
Speaker 2: And then I went into the bathtub back on the ice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you did it back and forth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, not back, and I mean, once.
Speaker 3: My headache is clearing, ooh, it's pooh advil.
Speaker 1: I feels incredible the beginning, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: It's fucking incredible. We take it for we take it
Speaker 2: for granted everything.
Speaker 3: Now, I mean the way it just knocks it out,
Speaker 3: and I just you know, I don't even have faith,
Speaker 3: Like I go, I go, I know I'm gonna feel
Speaker 3: better in like twenty minutes, and I'm like, just believe it.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just like set a time for twenty minutes
Speaker 3: and there it'll be.
Speaker 2: I'm about to beg you to hang out with me tonight.
Speaker 1: I don't want the listeners to think I'm an asshole.
Speaker 1: You're not to hang out with you. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's happening tonight.
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's last minute.
Speaker 1: But I feel.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot Should I stay in and read tonight?
Speaker 2: I doubt it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, why don't you sit with the self.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to sit with her right now.
Speaker 2: She's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean y'all alone over there or what.
Speaker 2: My partner's out of town?
Speaker 1: Is that what you mean there?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but I've been It's like it's not.
Speaker 1: Even saying that's the only reason you want to hang out.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, of course not. But it's more just that
Speaker 2: I it would be so good to stay in and
Speaker 2: read a book. I don't know, right, well, yeah, don't
Speaker 2: want me to, don't What does your want to?
Speaker 1: I just wonder like what.
Speaker 2: Were you gonna say?
Speaker 1: How's your what your writing space? I don't know, you're no.
Speaker 2: No, the writing space is not My office is like
Speaker 2: is still very much in. It's not even that much
Speaker 2: of a message, just like not set up. It's just
Speaker 2: not there yet. I'm having fatigue or I'm having not fatigue.
Speaker 2: I'm having like overwhelm of like esthetic changes I want
Speaker 2: to make.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how it goes, like try nails.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have improved my life and the concept of
Speaker 3: staging ground that I learned from the add book, Yeah,
Speaker 3: which is like I need a lot of staging grounds, right, like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is where I put the stuff that I'm gathering
Speaker 3: to take with me. I always use the top of
Speaker 3: the washing machine in the hall to like put stuff,
Speaker 3: and that's like one of the staging grounds. And so
Speaker 3: it's like, why is the stuff you're is a dirty
Speaker 3: as a clean It's neither. It's it's like or stuff
Speaker 3: that needs to go downstairs is like another staging ground.
Speaker 1: And then you just setting them up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then I have these nails on the wall. Now
Speaker 1: that was when I come home. I put my bag
Speaker 1: on the nail. It's no, no, life's changing.
Speaker 2: I have some hooks that were by the side of
Speaker 2: the door. Putting the purse on there. It's huge. I
Speaker 2: went ballistic looking for my purse the other day. Where's
Speaker 2: my fucking perse accuse my wallet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hanging next.
Speaker 2: To the door, perfect spot.
Speaker 1: Others would say it was there the whole time. I
Speaker 1: beg to differ. What do you mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just that it popped into it when you were ready,
Speaker 3: when you welcomed it.
Speaker 1: Isn't this interesting?
Speaker 3: Just like like pretending this is my hair, but you
Speaker 3: can't even see me, Like I have it pushed up
Speaker 3: in this way that looks like.
Speaker 2: A you look like a Felicity porter. Did you know that
Speaker 2: Felicity When Felicity cut her hair, got like death threats
Speaker 2: and the show was almost canceled.
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought, I told you that you're not the one.
Speaker 3: It's one of the most like Tank, oh.
Speaker 2: Honey, worse than Tanked. Death threat People were like rioting,
Speaker 2: can you fucking believe that?
Speaker 3: I remember when my mom girls got I gotta tell you, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I got a short hair cut and.
Speaker 1: Like once, and I remember it. First of all, it.
Speaker 3: Was like I see like a car pull in, like
Speaker 3: from the kitchen's table. I can see the car pooling
Speaker 3: and go down the driveway, which is like you know
Speaker 3: something I see all the time, Okay, and I just go,
Speaker 3: who's that woman?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: It was my.
Speaker 3: Mother's car, And yet I saw the shadow the silhouette
Speaker 3: of this woman was sort of a sort of sort
Speaker 3: of volume on top and then sort of truly short
Speaker 3: here like a cut, you know, and I'm just like
Speaker 3: some woman's here, and then like I mean, I'm making
Speaker 3: it sound and making it sound like I'm subtly I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't remember, but I just like I remember one me,
Speaker 3: who is that woman?
Speaker 2: Who is yeah? Yeah yeah?
Speaker 3: And being confused and then like my dad will posit
Speaker 3: these theories that are shocking, okay, because it'll just go
Speaker 3: like what about hair like like for a while he's like,
Speaker 3: he's like Novak's have big faces. They don't need big
Speaker 3: hair like that was one of the one of his
Speaker 3: like theories again and then it was like but bright
Speaker 3: news didn't tank, but yeah, people have profound reactions.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I was thinking that would be fun thing to do,
Speaker 3: would be we would record remotely in the sense of
Speaker 3: we'd get him, you know, we'd record just with a
Speaker 3: microphone in front of our face, earphones, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, headphones, whatever, and we clean them our places together, okay,
Speaker 3: and like individually and we do like timers and stuff,
Speaker 3: and then five bucks we sell it okay to the listener. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's that's some paywall shit right there. But can you
Speaker 3: imagine because people find it comforting and listen to poog
Speaker 3: you know, repeat, can you imagine if there was like
Speaker 3: I just want to do this with the depression stuff, like,
Speaker 3: so it be like clean hag should I put on
Speaker 3: the cleaning hour? And it's like us pattering around cleaning.
Speaker 2: Well, is that what people listen to podcasts doing cleaning,
Speaker 2: doing the show they don't want to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those who Struggle.
Speaker 2: Those who Struggle is a great name for a new podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting question new podcasts.
Speaker 2: Oh there she is?
Speaker 1: Well, well, the times they are changing. To keep your
Speaker 1: eyes peeled, folks.
Speaker 2: I love a cryptic warning at the end of an episode.
Speaker 1: Look, I ordered this.
Speaker 2: What is that a book of late su Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: classic classic of.
Speaker 1: Zao of Dalway.
Speaker 3: Isn't it horrible when you're not familiar with something enough
Speaker 3: to know which translation is best? Meanwhile, you haven't even
Speaker 3: cracked the spine and you're worried about whether you got
Speaker 3: the best translation.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: It's like, how about just like, oh I need the
Speaker 1: Newman translation. I'm a fool. Yeah all right, anyway, I
Speaker 1: love you.
Speaker 2: I love you. That was Poog. If you enjoyed Poog,
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Speaker 2: Poog is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players.
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Speaker 3: Jacqueline Novak. Executive produced by Libra Smith, edited and mixed
Speaker 3: by Ali Graham, Music.
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