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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosa. Thought, what's up, boys, what is happening? Things

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Speaker 1: are great? Things are really great. Um, because it's good

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Speaker 1: to be alive. I've been all over this world, guys,

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Speaker 1: and especially happy because he's in the country. Uh, that

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Speaker 1: is totally untrue. I am a world traveler compared to

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Speaker 1: some people in here we're talking about before we came on. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is where I've been a lot of countries ready.

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Speaker 1: America one doesn't count Texas to it's its own country.

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Speaker 1: Ask anybody from Texas, Texas declare they have their own

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Speaker 1: state flag? That's that odd curriculum too, that's too Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Cancoon spring break to k one. What a party culture

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Speaker 1: like Canada and my paramore Kirby Toronto, and you made

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Speaker 1: up relationship with Kirby the Motherland Ireland. Nice week on

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Speaker 1: the buses seeing all the great Emerald Isle. It's a

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Speaker 1: you well, It wasn't about that you hadn't traveled as much,

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Speaker 1: although that's true too, as much as you just didn't

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Speaker 1: in the future. You my wife always comes, it's like,

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Speaker 1: the road I'll see I'll see the earth. You've made

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Speaker 1: some slightly jingoistic comment m HMMs like yeah, once we have,

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Speaker 1: I'm really easy to what's my jingle? Is the comment

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Speaker 1: don't have to challenge that if you don't go anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: And it's like this is all aroundabout way from Mark

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Speaker 1: we got it. You mentioned it. I don't in Australia.

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Speaker 1: with your perspective. It was downright embarrassing and you should

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Speaker 1: listen to your wife. Listen. I'm just a regular Joe.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of doubt to travel regular

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Speaker 1: what happened in your Connecticut. It's not regular Ivy Walls.

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Speaker 1: It's not a regular Joe scenario we're dealing with here.

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Speaker 1: The old Zeuser is a man of the people. The

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Speaker 1: UH Tuesday edition. Uh you know, so you know what

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Speaker 1: happens on Tuesdays. We We've got a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: Before we get into it, we're gonna recap that Monday

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Speaker 1: night football game. Uh a wild ending the Seahawks and Lions.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be plenty of hot takes, hot takes

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Speaker 1: a plenty from the Around the NFL team, including West

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Speaker 1: wearing a Henley shirt today. Is that what it is? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's very masculine. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: to fork some teams. We forked how many teams last week? Four?

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Speaker 1: and then we will do you know, we had our

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Speaker 1: Uh real future star is Sydney Carlson behind the glass?

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Speaker 1: What's up Sydney? Hey to be part of the team. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So Sydney will be helping us out on Tuesdays and

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Speaker 1: John Camp, Chancellor Seattle Seahawks. Seahawks Seahawks safety punched the

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Speaker 1: up a post about us making that. Plenty of people

427
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Speaker 1: were optimistic about the Dolphin was outside of around this

428
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Speaker 1: team and perhaps, Yeah, this is another reminder that you

429
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Speaker 1: need to have stability at the top of the organization

430
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Speaker 1: for this ever to work. I think you need to

431
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Speaker 1: build through the draft and not go out and buy

432
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Speaker 1: free agents every year. But you can't build through the

433
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Speaker 1: draft when your philosophy and your schemes and your general

434
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Speaker 1: managers and your assistants are changing Europe to year. This

435
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Speaker 1: is Dolphins are are. They gotta be careful because they're

436
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Speaker 1: close to getting into the cycle of not just being

437
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Speaker 1: the eight and eight team, but the team that starts

438
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Speaker 1: to go four and five wins every year because there's

439
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Speaker 1: so much transition. I'm excited about the Dan Campbell era though,

440
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Speaker 1: I mean, he seems like he's fun. I think he's

441
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Speaker 1: gonna have a good chance to be right there with

442
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Speaker 1: Joe Vitt. You know, the one game of Jim thomsonilla

443
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Speaker 1: some of the great interim head coach memories that I've

444
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Speaker 1: had in my life. And then I mean, he just

445
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Speaker 1: seems like he's gonna there's gonna be some fun stuff

446
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Speaker 1: here with Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's very I love that. Yeah,

447
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Speaker 1: he's a long hair like eight months ago and now

448
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Speaker 1: he's the head coach of fifty three men. But uh,

449
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Speaker 1: the other interesting, kind of humorous, slash fascinating report other

450
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Speaker 1: than a man losing his job, other than that is

451
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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. This is how bad things have gotten in Miami,

452
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: and this stuff always leaks out after firing like this.

453
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Speaker 1: That National Football Post first reported Tannehill had been getting

454
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Speaker 1: rattled during practice sessions last week and was letting his

455
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Speaker 1: frustrations out on practice squad players, including this one quote,

456
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Speaker 1: according to a player who told the National Football Post,

457
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Speaker 1: enjoy your practice squad paycheck, Enjoy your practice squad trophy.

458
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Speaker 1: And it got so bad that Joey Fibbs was going

459
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Speaker 1: up to the practice squad guys and say, hey, take

460
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Speaker 1: it easy on QB one and gentlemen, Uh, you know

461
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Speaker 1: what this is. This is a clear case, Sydney. It

462
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Speaker 1: was a little baby from Texas who can't handle it,

463
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Speaker 1: and you give all this guy money and you build

464
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Speaker 1: a team around it. But that is a lot of

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Speaker 1: beat Defend you. What do you mean? I'm not defending

466
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Speaker 1: him in this case. It's worth noting, Jeff, see still

467
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Speaker 1: your boy, or if you bailed on him like I

468
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Speaker 1: bailed on Josh McCown, that is a great question. I

469
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Speaker 1: no longer I think he has that highest ceiling. I

470
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Speaker 1: think he is what he is, which is a mid

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Speaker 1: level guy who's gonna make a long career as a starter.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not excited about him ever turning the corner

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Speaker 1: as a top ten guys. Not after hearing this, well

474
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Speaker 1: that that's part of it, to be fair, Jeff Darlington

475
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Speaker 1: strongly reported that he never said the paycheck line. Everything

476
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Speaker 1: else was true he said, but he said he never

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Speaker 1: what he's worried about his fragile little psyche though that

478
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Speaker 1: part that part of no one's disputing, though. I want

479
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Speaker 1: to know, I want to know the tone of this

480
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Speaker 1: and you know stuff that happened in the NFL practices.

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Speaker 1: This is a quote from from like your fourfferents. I'm

482
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Speaker 1: just saying, Sanna Hill has absolutely not been a problem

483
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Speaker 1: on this team bothered by the quote. It's a little

484
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Speaker 1: The problem is the head coach approaching these like sea

485
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Speaker 1: level players and be like, hey, take it easy, million

486
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Speaker 1: dollar quarterback because he needs the confidence, right, and that's fair.

487
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Speaker 1: Can you mentioned Rex Ryan and for the bashing that

488
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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan's taking, the one thing that Ryan mostly didn't

489
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Speaker 1: do in New York was gonna be is it will

490
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Speaker 1: not lose his entire roster. You have to dump your

491
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Speaker 1: coach when Philbin over and over cannot handle these conflicts over,

492
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Speaker 1: I have no problem with Handel being frustrated in practice

493
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Speaker 1: and going off on whoever, but I wanted to be

494
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Speaker 1: frustrated they've sucked. Sure, but it's a sign that the

495
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Speaker 1: pressure is getting to him a little bit. For a

496
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Speaker 1: little bit of context, some teams, as Alex Marvez pointed out,

497
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Speaker 1: you know, they really prefer that their practice squad team

498
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Speaker 1: kind of show the defensive scheme but not necessarily try

499
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Speaker 1: to make plays on the ball. That that's almost an

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Speaker 1: ide da that they have that they're not supposed to

501
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: be making these interceptions. Now, I thought it was really interesting.

502
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Speaker 1: Campbell addressed the situation without mentioning Tannehill pretty directly. He said,

503
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Speaker 1: when we have practiced. The best teams they go after

504
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Speaker 1: each other. The defensive practice squad, they're gonna go after

505
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Speaker 1: the offense. And that's the team I want. And to

506
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Speaker 1: me that said at all that he thought Tannehill was

507
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Speaker 1: being babied, Joe Philippin seems like a wonderful person and

508
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Speaker 1: a nice guy and a good human being who oversaw

509
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Speaker 1: something where he had no authority. And this is the

510
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Speaker 1: same coach who allowed Richie and Congnuito to be on

511
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Speaker 1: the leadership council and allowed that whole controversy to happen.

512
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Speaker 1: It's not for everyone like that balance between being a

513
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Speaker 1: leader and also not being the friends all the time

514
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Speaker 1: that's had. These guys failed. They all fail, most of them.

515
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Speaker 1: In other a f C East news, the Buffalo Bills

516
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Speaker 1: have some injury issues in their backfield. Lashawn McCoy is

517
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Speaker 1: a concussion, Carlos Williams has excuse me, McCoy has a hamstring.

518
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Speaker 1: Carlos Williams has a concussion. So they worked out some

519
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Speaker 1: running backs today and this is all note to uh,

520
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: the quiet storm and myself. Trent Richardson was one of

521
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Speaker 1: those running backs that was worked out. Of course, cut

522
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Speaker 1: by the Raiders in August or early September. Also worked

523
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Speaker 1: out was a Dan boom Herron who actually got signed.

524
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Speaker 1: Trent Richardson not signed. So t rich And this is

525
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Speaker 1: let's just break this down real quick, mark Um. When

526
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Speaker 1: we talk about like p scale, and of course our

527
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Speaker 1: sandwich prop was that and this was made back in

528
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Speaker 1: February that t rich would never have another carry in

529
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. It didn't look good for me when

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Speaker 1: he got guaranteed money for the from the Raiders. Looked

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Speaker 1: obviously good for me when he fell down that depth

532
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Speaker 1: chart and then got cut. This now lets me know

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Speaker 1: that he's at least on the grid still. So my

534
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Speaker 1: P scale on Trent Richardson, Uh, is it about five

535
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Speaker 1: and a half? Cool? Considered me, Miles Davis. So I'm

536
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Speaker 1: like righting around like five and a half, Like he's

537
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Speaker 1: still on the grid. I would have rather that he was.

538
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: He just was out somewhere given up on football. But

539
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Speaker 1: that's something well, he certainly has the ability to lose

540
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Speaker 1: these tryouts over and over. But what I like to see,

541
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Speaker 1: because the whole premise was not whether he makes the

542
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Speaker 1: Raiders or even plays the in Week one, it was

543
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Speaker 1: if he ever plays a snap ever again, and what

544
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Speaker 1: I kept hanging on and again he's ripe to fail.

545
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Speaker 1: But that's it's or it's October six and people were

546
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Speaker 1: to give him try out. So I thought this was

547
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna happen in early December as injuries mount and someone's like,

548
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: we just need a fresh body to do practice, and

549
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: then maybe he gets into a game or two. Then

550
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Speaker 1: you bang, because I already gave you a sandwich, you

551
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Speaker 1: have to give me two back. That's how it's gonna work.

552
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: And that's just gonna happen here. And I was a

553
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Speaker 1: little nervous about Rex being involved because you know, he's

554
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Speaker 1: a little bit I'm a maverick and all that stuff.

555
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Speaker 1: But by the way, even if he got signed to

556
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Speaker 1: a team, uh, it doesn't you don't get the wager

557
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: because he's got Yeah, I think the Michael kristin Michael's head,

558
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: I think one carry the season. I think I'm very

559
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: clear of the the the outline of the deal. And

560
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Speaker 1: that's why I'm confident. Was more. By the way, where

561
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Speaker 1: is ray Rice is never going to get a job

562
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Speaker 1: if he can't get a try out. When the guys

563
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Speaker 1: like t Richard getting tryouts, we're not gonna see Red

564
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Speaker 1: Rice no more. Uh, and your boy Pierre Thomas off

565
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Speaker 1: the grid. I don't know what's gonna should have taken

566
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Speaker 1: that job of the Texans. Yeah, all right. In other news,

567
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Speaker 1: this is interesting h Odell Beckham, you know, not off

568
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Speaker 1: to the type of start that perhaps we expected. And

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Speaker 1: he's there is some buzz in the air around the

570
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Speaker 1: NFL about you know, his personality and where he's at

571
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Speaker 1: head wise, after an offseason in which he was, you know,

572
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Speaker 1: the biggest star in the NFL. Just about the Bills

573
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Speaker 1: went after Odell Beckham after Sunday's lost this. Stephan Gilmore

574
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Speaker 1: specifically had a lot of things to say in West

575
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tee you up on this, uh, Gilmore said,

576
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with him. He acts like

577
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: you're supposed to let him catch the ball. He's weird.

578
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: He gets mad when you play physical with him. He's weird.

579
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Speaker 1: And then he went on to say, Uh, he's different.

580
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like you're playing your little brother and

581
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Speaker 1: he gets mad at you for being too physical with him,

582
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Speaker 1: throwing a tantrum. I'm like, man, we're playing football. It's

583
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Speaker 1: a physical game. He's a prima donna. He feels like

584
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: he's on top of the world and nobody's supposed to

585
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Speaker 1: do anything to him. And finally, Gilmore added that you

586
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: know they watched tape. They don't see him as that special.

587
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: Guy's got great hands. Uh, but he's not as good

588
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Speaker 1: as what people think. After that one catch, he's calling

589
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: him one hit wonder. Chris Wessling, the floor is yours

590
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: because odibs your boy. He said, he's no Sammy Watkins.

591
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: You're right, He's much better than Sammy Watkinson. Apparently Sammy

592
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Speaker 1: Watkins is a new Tom Savage. I'm not sure if

593
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Speaker 1: he really exists. He's never on the field. Uh. Look,

594
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: there are a couple of ways to look at this.

595
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: I threw Odell Beckham out of the penthouse with my

596
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: stable of the boys over the off season when he

597
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: was complaining about his teammates making fun of him. Lover's quarrel.

598
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: This is another sign that he's a prima donna. I

599
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: totally get that. Stephan Gilmore's right, he is weird. Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham is a weird dude, and and he's not getting

601
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Speaker 1: back in the stable. He's not only out of the penthouse,

602
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Speaker 1: he's out of the stable boys. He's out of the

603
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: stable boys. He's on he's done. I don't do Prima

604
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: Donna's I'm gonna need to I don't know, have a

605
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: cigarette the day that's said Stefan Gilmore not might not

606
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: be very bright. It's definitely not watching game tape. And wait,

607
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: he's got to be all credibility when he says that

608
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: that Odell Beckham's a one hit wonder, well, he's clearly

609
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Speaker 1: biased that emotional because Odell Beckham through punches at multiple bills.

610
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Speaker 1: This is this is on film, one of them the

611
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Speaker 1: want so I know it was a whole it was.

612
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Speaker 1: That's what got That's what got him thrown out. We

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Speaker 1: can't deal with the physicality. So you come up punching. Well,

614
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that he's a one hit

615
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Speaker 1: wonder by any stretch. Though. Well, here's one thing. Let

616
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Speaker 1: me just of course ridiculous. Here's what here's something to

617
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Speaker 1: take take out of this. He is on a pace

618
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Speaker 1: I believe for a one thousand yards season. He's on

619
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Speaker 1: pacee he is to have a nice season. But he

620
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Speaker 1: has certainly been a little disappointing this year and it

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Speaker 1: makes you wonder, um a if teams maybe figured out

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Speaker 1: how to play him on defense a little bit. Be

623
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Speaker 1: if the offseason and all all the uh outside football

624
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: stuff that he got involved with somehow did change his

625
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: mentality your mindset, and see if there's a little secret

626
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: weapon here with Odell Beckham is that you can get

627
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: under his skin and will take him out of his game.

628
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: All those things seem fair because he's a good receiver

629
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Speaker 1: right now, but he's not transcendent, which he was last year.

630
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Ahead the Rams tried to get under a skin last

631
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: year with dirty shots all game, and he got him

632
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: for a hundred and ninety yards. This is about Eli

633
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Manning has faced the least pressure of any quarterback in

634
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: the league this year, and it's behind a bad offensive line.

635
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: It's because teams are playing six and seven defensive backs

636
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: in an effort to stop Odell Beckham Jr. Well, and

637
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: it's because they let go of the ball and the

638
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Bills through the ball in an average This is from

639
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Mike Rodack and in one one point seven seconds in

640
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: that in that Bills game, that's the shortest amount of

641
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: time any quarterbacks, you know, throwing the ball all season,

642
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: because all they're doing is dropping back three or five

643
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: steps and throwing the ball six r that's not gonna

644
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: get big yards for a back. I think he's looked

645
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: fantastic during during certain moments. This this key reason. But

646
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: he punched the guy in the helmet with his fist.

647
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: He should have been ejected from the game. He's gotta

648
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: get a lot of fire, right. So he's a little

649
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: bit immature. I mean, that's fine. He's also twenty three,

650
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: coming off one of an off season where you came

651
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: into the league last year with a chip on your

652
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: shoulder because this time last year, everyone was ripping this

653
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: guy for not shaking off a hamstring injuring getting on

654
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: the field. Then he proves everyone wrong, and then suddenly

655
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: NFL Network wants to do specials on you. When you're

656
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: twenty two. Everyone asks, actually, like you're a king. Every

657
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: time he throws a softball, it gets mixed that, you know,

658
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: the front page of the newspaper. It's ridiculous. I mean,

659
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna toy with your head. You're defending a high

660
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: level millennial. I did not see this coming because because

661
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: when it's when it's coming from his own teammates and

662
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: they're calling him weird, all that stuff that is going

663
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: to get on my radar more than the opponents who

664
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: are dealing with him. You shouldn't be throwing punches. But

665
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: it's like his career. I'm done with these players that

666
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: after one or two years, we're saying what they are

667
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: and we're done with him. To and to be a

668
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: point to Beckham's credit, he has not been incredible this year,

669
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: but this just tells you how great he was last year.

670
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: He's on pace for ninety sketches and yards and eight TVs.

671
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: Right now. He's on pace for an All Pro or

672
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season and he hasn't even played that well yet.

673
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, he has two hundred yards next week

674
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: and what's the unpage stats after that? And he absolutely

675
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: dominated two different halfs of games this year in a

676
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: way that almost no receiver has. It just hasn't been

677
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: every single half. You are we surprised the Buffalo Bills

678
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: players are talking again. I mean, how about they keep

679
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's like part of it is give me

680
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: a break with this bill, with the Bills getting old.

681
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: That's fair, all right, So that's what's happening in the news.

682
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: That was a good news segment and every it was

683
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: all good. Dan all right, Greg's back. I thought Greg

684
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: was a little low key in the intro and I

685
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: could feel the energy, But now it's coming back. It

686
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: was it was always here. I was just you know,

687
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: sometimes he lay back. He lay back and watch the

688
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: pros do their work. Fair enough, Okay, you take a segment.

689
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: You can call it every energy natural? What the new

690
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: energy that you gained in the last just asking what

691
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: you're this manufactured energy? Well, I'm drinking coffee. If that's

692
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: what you're getting out. There's no h that's organic drugs

693
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: or anything that's organic. It's acceptable. Greg. Your thoughts on

694
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the Daily Fantasy League controversy, go ahead, Floor's yours. I

695
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know anything about it, don't care.

696
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: Blow it all up. All right, let's get into our

697
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: power pole. Uh we we're gonna do one every quarter

698
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: of the season. So we did one before the season started,

699
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: and now after week four it's time to do another.

700
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: And um I will quick. Let's start this by doing

701
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: how do we want to do this? Let's go through

702
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: the power poll as it stands right now. Greg, you

703
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: sent it to me and I already lost it. Do

704
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: you have the current power pole? So many things. Our

705
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: printer didn't work today, so all discombobulated. All right, here

706
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: we go one through ten. Patriots, packer Is, Cardinals, Broncos, Bengals, Seahawks, Falcons, Panthers, Steelers, Jets.

707
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: That's the top ten. Let's talk about that, all right.

708
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: We'll start Why don't we do it this? Then do

709
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: it this way? Um, the top ten. Back in early September,

710
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: we had the Lions at eight, and the Lions are

711
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: now where they are buried at twenty five, which is

712
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: pretty high for the only winless team in the league.

713
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: That's true. The Colts were five where we have them.

714
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: They they have fallen all the way to fourteen. All right.

715
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: The Eagles we had at six, bullish on chip of

716
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: the genius. That was trouble. They're at three right now.

717
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: And to what I was saying earlier, we had the

718
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Dolphins is the tenth best team in football entering Week one.

719
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: They are now one in three and with it, which

720
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: seems very high. I put them dead last at thirty two.

721
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: I think they have been the worst team, which you

722
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: can't really argue I put them higher. I think I

723
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: had them around twenty two or so or one, just

724
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: because I think they they're talking big about Campbell. I

725
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: could see them starting to play harder and maybe win

726
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: some game and end up around five. But I see

727
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: them and I do think there's talent there. I think

728
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: the team awful start, not the worst team in football.

729
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: I think they've played like the worst team. Their one

730
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: win was exceedingly lucky. In the last two weeks were

731
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: as bad as as they could possibly be. So that's

732
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Speaker 1: why is Campbell tackling for them. I mean, part of

733
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: it is just there, absolutely terrible on the field. Eleven

734
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: through twenty, Rams just miss in the top ten. By

735
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: the way, Jets, I see you at number ten in

736
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: the power point, which which out of those teams that

737
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: have fallen the furthest are we do we think maybe

738
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: he's going to bounce back a little bit. I mean,

739
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: that's a huge lock for the race. The Ravens have

740
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: sunk the Lions. We had as a top eight team.

741
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: They were the start of our second team and there

742
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: and they're forked. I would go maybe I would go

743
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: with the Cults. Not because I think the Cults are

744
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: what we thought they were before the season. They're not.

745
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: But you're in an absolutely wretched division where you could

746
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: string to other games and Andrew Luck if he you know,

747
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: rebounds some then why not rebounds R bounds. That's interesting.

748
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: We just with Dave Mark this morning, we did this

749
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: thing where we did the quarter Pole Awards, and you

750
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: could with those four top ten teams, if we had

751
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: a category most disappointing team, Yon's Colts, Eagles, and Dolphins.

752
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: That is quite a tough category to win. I but

753
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: I would probably say it would have to be the

754
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Dolphins because it's been so all encompassing, just a total

755
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: collapse of the organization. But you could make a case

756
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: or any of those teams. How many interim coaches I'd

757
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: like to know have have turned a team around? Like

758
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: most of them? Go about two and one was the

759
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: last time an interim coach made the playoffs? Oh my gosh.

760
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: Usually it's like just a caretaker for an ultra top

761
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: five pick disaster show. And how and I like, I

762
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: like not talking about the teams that fell, but the

763
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: Falcons climbing all the way up. We had no respect

764
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: for the Panthers. We had them as the third place

765
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: team in the NFC South at twenty three and now

766
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: they're in the top eight. And when I filled this out.

767
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: Tell me if you guys disagree. I realized, Man, the

768
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: middle of the NFL seems soft. There there was about

769
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: nine teams I would stop it at the Steelers. The

770
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: fact that the Jets, the and the Rams are ten

771
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: and eleven kind of shows you, like how much this

772
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: league is up for grabs right now. I put the

773
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: Jets comfortably ahead of the Panthers. Well, that's and that's

774
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: why I like, you know, when I said I thought

775
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: the Jets were top ten team in September, it wasn't

776
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: because I think the Jets are great. But Mark last

777
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: because he thinks I'm making a point that I called it.

778
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: But what I'm really saying is that when I said

779
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: when I did think that they could be a top

780
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: ten team, it wasn't because I think the Jets are contender.

781
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: There's just it's a very top heavy league right now. Well,

782
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: but I think then, compared to some other seasons, the

783
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: top ten has some shaky offerings who might not even

784
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: be close three or four Falcons and Panthers. I'm just saying,

785
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: compared to what we what we look at in general,

786
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: when we look at the top half of the league,

787
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: there is average all over the NFL. Let's look at

788
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: our eleven through twenty, Rams, Vikings, Bills, who really, you know,

789
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: they could easily have been seven if we were doing

790
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: this a week earlier, but that was a bad loss.

791
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: The Colts at fourteen, the Giants at fifteen, the sixteen,

792
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: the Dalton h dal line is the Chargers, which makes sense,

793
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys at seventeen, Redskins eighteen, Ravens at nineteen, and then

794
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: we have the Raiders at twenty. UM. So yeah, those

795
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: teams are all kind of more or less the same.

796
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: I would say, with the exception of the Colts of

797
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck gets healthy and they put it together, and

798
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the Bills, who are really hard to figure out. Yeah,

799
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: that much of the NFC East is in that group.

800
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: The Raiders got a lot of love. I mean, I

801
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: think that also shows if you look when we do

802
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: post this and you read our you know article, and

803
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: once you get past the the NFC East, Redskins, Ravens,

804
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: if you got the Raiders at twenty, that means there's

805
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: a whole end of the league that's kind of up

806
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: for grabs. Two. I mean that any of those teams

807
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: could start emerging and surprise us, and maybe a Fork

808
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: team comes and forks us. Yeah, who I was gonna say,

809
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: who is the team most likely out of that pack

810
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Let's throw out the Colts because

811
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: they're kind of an outline. Well, you know who, I'm

812
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna say that the St. Louis Rams, who I had

813
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: before the season. I still it's gonna be tricky in

814
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: that division to get three teams into the playoffs. And

815
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: I under and I love the Cardinals. We have the

816
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: Cardinals number three, which is great. It's cool to see

817
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: the Bengals like we really believe in them. But I

818
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: think the Rams have the most talent of all those teams.

819
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: What about a team how deep down? We're going the

820
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: Road Redskins at eighteen because that division to me is

821
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: an absolute unpredictable race at the moment, and the Redskins

822
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: have shown they can play well, but they're like the

823
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: there's so many teams in the league right now that

824
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: are so um schizophrenic from week to week. So it's

825
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: hard to recluding the entire NFC East though, like a

826
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: team to go eight and eight or nine and seven

827
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: and win that division. But the Cowboys, they're getting Deaz

828
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: back potentially in week seven, Romo won't be too far behind.

829
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: They're getting Grank Cardi back, They're getting Landa McClain back.

830
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: This week, they've had Sean Lieban injured. They have had

831
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: by far the worst injury lock. They've been somewhat impressive

832
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: that they've even been competitive with Well, I like weed

833
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: and but you've got to win a game. You gonna

834
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: actually have to pull out some wins. He should have

835
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: won one of these two games. And now that yeah,

836
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: all right. Now here's twenty one from out of thirty

837
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: two to thirty two, Greg, there are thirty two teams

838
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: UH Titans at one, she Eaves, Eagles, Saints, Lions at

839
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: Owen four, There, Dolphins, Jaguars, Browns at marks. So I

840
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: think they moved up a little bit, a very small

841
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: amount of potentially same place they've been holding for three

842
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: years of this. They went up one spot for the Bears.

843
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: The Bears uh twenty nine, Texans at thirty, the Niners

844
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: at thirty one. They should be thirty two to me

845
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: and the Bucks at thirty two on our joint power pull,

846
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: which we all the four of us. In addition to

847
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: the Chicago correspondent Kevin Patrick, who hurled a sneaky expletive

848
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Speaker 1: at me. Um after the completion of the Monday night game,

849
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Speaker 1: which I was okay with, I don't uh. And then

850
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: of course Connor or in his New Jersey Haunted match treatment,

851
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: I made a comment that, uh, I knew that the

852
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Speaker 1: lines were going to blow it or something and you know,

853
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: and his response which were something me, that's all I'll say, Yeah, well,

854
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: you know you We also had a you know, a

855
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: long text conversation about you don't think the Lions fans

856
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: have experienced that much pain or you know, they don't

857
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: have the pathos, the special pathos of the New York

858
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: area because because because we don't know Detroit people, because

859
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: they're in Detroit. Meanwhile, the great you know, one of

860
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: the greatest receivers of all time literally ties in all

861
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: time Lions franchise record for receiving on the same play

862
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: that he fumbles the ball going and I mean, that

863
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: was an amazing, that would be painful moment as after

864
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: admit as I tweeted, it would be in the hurt

865
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Speaker 1: files of my pen rankers, which you can find at

866
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Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash pain rankings. And just so everyone knows,

867
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: right now, the Detroit lines are number four on the

868
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: pen rankings, so it's not like they got job too hard.

869
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think there is a little missing, you know,

870
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: Jens Kwa. When it comes to the Lions, they had

871
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: lost New York the Bills. That's five point was with

872
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: Bills Jets. Browns have that that the Lines of Pain

873
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: rankings and put the Jets like twelfth. Your your case

874
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: for them was that the Lions have been too bad

875
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: to even count for pain. That's what Lions stands to me?

876
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: Are there a lot like Kevin? It's it's they just

877
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: expect the worse. It all is boiling inside, they're angry

878
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: about it. It's all just pain. No hope. I'm gonna

879
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: trust Greg that when you completely dismissed Dan's thirty plus

880
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: years following the Jets and following with follow Jets fans

881
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: that you know at least more than one Lions fan

882
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: that has absolutely impressed you with the level of passion, anger,

883
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: and lost. I'm assuming it's based on research and many

884
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: Lions fans not just playing Devil's advocate and the Jets

885
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: at every draft growing up, the most advocate draft is

886
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: in New York. I'm just saying Jets fans have to

887
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: be viewed as one of the most bizarre downy and

888
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: it's all very close. But Lions have great fans. I mean,

889
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: when you watch the games, I'm taking the Lions crowd

890
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: over the Jets crowd. Detroit at like you know about

891
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Detroit and I don't your knowledge of the Detroit Well.

892
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in the Motor City.

893
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: I watched the movie I spent I watched the movie

894
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: eight Mile. I owned many of Eminem's solo albums, but

895
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: also some like when he was a guest star on compilations.

896
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. There's no Lake Michigan. They're

897
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: just a corpse, ridiculous. You can make the case. Obviously

898
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: the lines are top three. This is a compliment to

899
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: your thing that it's inspired debate. That's what you're for.

900
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: His debate, debate is great, embraced the debate. Anything else

901
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: with THEE that's fair, that's fair. You can make a case.

902
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: The Bucks are pretty all a mess down there. I

903
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: think the one team though, the Titans, where are they

904
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: they are sitting? Okay, we're a little underrating it. I

905
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: think the thing is say a bye week and let's

906
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: say they play the Bill's nets. If they ever pull

907
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: that out and they go three and one, they're not

908
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: a twenty two and make the case that we should

909
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: flip with the Bills, if that would happen. Yeah, I

910
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: just think that, like they were lost in action and

911
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: so we kind of forgot about them. But the record rongs.

912
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy how many bad teams are because also as

913
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: ten last teams, they're fans. Their fans would just say

914
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: that they're having the most miserable season ever. Chiefs fans

915
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: have to be miserable Eagles fans. It's quickly become the

916
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: fan fan base in the country extra miserable because they

917
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: can't yell at you anymore. That's true. But Chase about that,

918
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm a man of the people. Now that Dan has

919
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: exposed himself by speaking of Chase Daniel number thirty two,

920
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: dead last and QBR right now is Alex Smith? What's

921
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck he's hanging around. I know he's in that mix.

922
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: Let's get back to what you were just saying that

923
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: you were about to bury me. So I noticed, oh

924
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: that I was going to take over as a man

925
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: of the people. It was a little thing I used.

926
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: It was sarcasm. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a

927
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: man of the people. All right, So that is our

928
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: power pole, at the quarter pole, I I call it.

929
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Why not? Keep rolling, you'll we'll bring this back. We'll

930
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: trot this back out after week Gate West. I was

931
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: told by apparently at least seventy three horse racing aficionados yesterday,

932
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: the quarter pool is actually at the three quarter mark,

933
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: not the one quarter mark. Was that Mr Falcon at

934
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: the iTunes review store it was more acorns? Please? Al right, Well,

935
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: you know that's what we call it is what the

936
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: horse people don't call it. I mean, it's just different

937
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: things differ. Apparently, taken from a horse race, the quarter

938
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: pole is like the last quarter of the race, the

939
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: power poll at the quarter point of the NFL season.

940
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: All right, moving on, the time has come, gentlemen to

941
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: take out some cutlery, and we did. Uh Sydney, our

942
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: new producer who's doing a wonderful job so far. Today

943
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: she uh let me know via the old slack chat

944
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: quit Slack and sign up for Slack today some sponsors

945
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: come at us slack. Uh. She let me know on

946
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: our I M Chat client that we forked six teams

947
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: last week they were the Patriots. You know what, Bears.

948
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: Let's just go over the whole list and I'm going

949
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: to add the three three new ones at all right,

950
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: let's do this. Here we go Shane, Cleveland Browns, Shame,

951
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: that's Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Detroit Lions, New Orleans Saints,

952
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: and the San Francisco forty Niners. Shane. Okay, now, Shane,

953
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: we have three more to add to that list. We

954
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: voted it has to be ananimous amongst the four of us,

955
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: and the three new teams are Shane, the Houston Texans Shane,

956
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins Shane, Shane, and the Oakland Raiders Shane.

957
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: All gone. That is nine teams in the NFL. And

958
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: market pains you to hear the Raiders. I could tell

959
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: it comes down and they're gonna make the playoffs. So

960
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: they're not. That's all this exercises not are they a

961
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: better team than last year? Are there is? Are they

962
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: more fun to watch? If not? Are they gonna be

963
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: five and five and in the mix even at some

964
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: point it's and we are? And from that angle, you know,

965
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: when I came in, I was off yesterday and Dan said,

966
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: here's the teams we're gonna fork. That gave me pause.

967
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: Oakland just because Mary Cooper is a weapon. I just

968
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: think they've got better quarterback play. There's something going on

969
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: with their defense here and there, but they're not going

970
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. So I had to agree with you.

971
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: But that's stuck with me, that one we could be paying.

972
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances that the Raiders aren't ready for

973
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs yet. Personally, you know they're improved. But about

974
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: the Taguars, we we didn't fork them yet. I know

975
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: there's some love for the Jaguars. That there's still the

976
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: Jags and they still blew a game half of again

977
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: Andrew luck Team h Andrew Luckless team, So Greg and West.

978
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: I thought Blake Bortles played pretty well against the Colts.

979
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: The number the final score doesn't show that, but he

980
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: made some throws. He played pretty well. And I don't know.

981
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: To me, like I know you're hesitant about the Raiders.

982
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: I think one thing we don't pay attention enough is

983
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: to division. Yes, because the Texans, according to Number Fire,

984
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: have a twenty six percent chance of making the playoffs,

985
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: The Dolphins have a five point five and the Raiders

986
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: have a four point three percent chance, right, because the

987
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 1: a f C South is so bad. I mean, last

988
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: year we forked the entire NFC South except for the

989
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: Saints and the Panthers made the playoffs, a fact that

990
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: none of us even remembered when we were talking about

991
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: making mistakes with the fork just about a week ago.

992
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: So generally, well, that's said number. I'm just I'm just

993
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: saying that's that's who do not recognize Bill O'Brien's complete

994
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: inability to run a quarterback room too. I think your

995
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: point is founded though, that you don't want to for

996
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: the half the division when the Colts quarterback has a

997
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: separated shoulder and we have no idea what that's going

998
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: to turn into. The Well, i'd say one thing for

999
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders, and again I'm happy sent them down the river,

1000
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: that's where they're going. But what the Chiefs and the

1001
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Chargers are there are the big blockade to you getting

1002
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: to eight or nine wins that those are two completely up. Yeah,

1003
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that it's not even the a f

1004
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: C West of two seasons ago, where you're gonna get

1005
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: buried twice by the Broncos, probably twice by the Chiefs.

1006
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: And probably twice by the charge. Have you been arguments

1007
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: a bad team by the way, I don't think I

1008
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: think that. I don't think the Readers team either. In

1009
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: Week two, well I didn't say they were terrible, but

1010
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs blew a terrible game in Week two,

1011
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: and then the schedule God's got them. I wouldn't be

1012
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: surprised that they come on strong and they're in the mix.

1013
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if before Kansas City next week

1014
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: they got they gotta win. And they've given up thirty

1015
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: points in three straight games for the first time since

1016
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: they have not been competitive last weeks the first one.

1017
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: It's totally it's misleading, at least in terms of the

1018
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: defense because that was that was their offense that got

1019
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: the points scored on it. But either way, they haven't

1020
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: They weren't really very competitive against the good team. So

1021
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that that they suddenly will

1022
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: be Baltimore Ravens for oh and three. We did not

1023
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: fork them. They're very lucky to get that one win.

1024
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: They got a lot of help to get it, but

1025
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: they still got to be squarely in our sights heading

1026
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: into Week five. But their schedule, they're gonna be heavy

1027
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: favorites the next two weeks. It's the forty niners and

1028
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: another I can't remember off the top of my I

1029
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: think the Browns, and so they're gonna have a chance

1030
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: to to get It'll be interesting when we've already forked

1031
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: the Browns again. I'll agreed on that. But the Ravens

1032
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: will probably could potentially have a worse record than the Browns.

1033
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: And we're not going to fork the Ravens two weeks

1034
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: from now. You got to bury that team. Well, I mean,

1035
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: I just don't like, yeah, well no, but if the

1036
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Ravens go, we made the right move. We could have.

1037
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: If we would have forked him at oh and three,

1038
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: we would be sweating balls right now because they would

1039
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: have been one in three with too easy games coming

1040
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: up potentially into their by and we'd be like, oh,

1041
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: hamnu Hammed playing this game right, We're gonna have to

1042
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: sweat some bullets. Yes, of course, what some bees. And

1043
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: that's why I get rid of the writer. These teams

1044
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: should want us to these teams should want us to

1045
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: fork them history guys on a year. Make it out,

1046
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: you guys, it's not a friend of the segment talk

1047
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: about bold on October six. You guys are telling me

1048
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: we're too afraid to rule out the Jaguars making the playoffs.

1049
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: I didn't say. I would that the division is smart.

1050
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: That division is absolute tire fire. Right now, we're just

1051
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: starting this little journey that's called the two thousand fifteen season.

1052
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm excited, but it's just it's just barely begun that

1053
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: we're getting in. There a lot of crazy things. It's

1054
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: nine teams go home, don't even play. The rest of

1055
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: us get there is a rule. This was a nice

1056
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: of Greg because it lowers our workload a little bit.

1057
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Speaker 1: Any team that we've forked, no one attached to this

1058
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: podcast needs to write any stories about any of those. Yeah,

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00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: they're a bad, bad football team. The good news is

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00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: so are the Colts. Mhm, it's fair. That's fair, dog,

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go. So the fork has come out.

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00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: Nine teams done, yea gone, it's over. Give up, Mark.

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00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: That gave me a pretty good idea. We could actually

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00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: have a fat right like everyone else doesn't cover those teams.

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Speaker 1: But then, for instance, you just cover the teams that

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00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: were forked. What's your thoughts, Mark, seems a little bit ridiculous. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's charge around here. So let's hit up our Thursday

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Speaker 1: night preview now. As week five begins, it keeps on

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00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: rolling and the Indianapolis culled to uh squeak by really,

1070
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: by the grace of God and bad field goal kicking,

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00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: they get a win with Matt Hasselbeck uh to move

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Speaker 1: to two and two and take first place in the

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00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: wretched a f C South. And now they head to Houston,

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Speaker 1: speaking of wretched, to face the Texans and West. I'll

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00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: see you up on this one there one in three

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Speaker 1: And Bill O'Brien made an interesting decision um on Monday.

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00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: What was that he watched Ryan Mallett play football and

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00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: decided he wanted to watch him again. That's it. I

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00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: thought the Ryan malled experiences over. I thought we weren't

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Speaker 1: getting anything else. But what happened here is Bill O'Brien

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00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: banged himself. Let's face it. He went away from Brian

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00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: Hoyer too quickly and thought, just hope Ryan Mallen want

1083
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: to be a tire fire. He is, and now he's

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00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: in this position where he doesn't know when he can

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00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: go back. He's he's really west. As you put it

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00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: on Twitter, put himself in a corner. The only explanation

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00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: I've heard that makes sense, And this came from one

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00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: of my Twitter followers. I forget his name. I apologize

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00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: for that, one of your fans. You mean it's part

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00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: of my fan base. Uh? Is that if Bill O'Brien's

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Speaker 1: going to turn back to Brian Hoyer, he owes him

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00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 1: at least a week of preparation, not a short week

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00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: against the Colts. So that would allow him to turn

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00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: back to Hoyer after ten days and more time to prepare,

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Speaker 1: prepare for the next game. Because watching Ryan Mallett play,

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00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: I just it's literally incredible that anybody would start him again.

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00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: And I guess if the Colts, who are better on

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: defense there the defense has not been the biggest problem

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00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. If they go and drop a bomb on

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00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett on national television, no one's gonna give. O'Brien

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00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: is hard of a time for switching back. And if

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Speaker 1: the Colts drop a bomb on Brian Hoyer, what do

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00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: you do turn back to ma That that makes that

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00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: all makes sense, But he has to be thinking what

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00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: a big game this is they you know they're playing

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00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck who will be starting this game. It's or

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00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: it's fully expected that he's going to be back for

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00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: this game, and I think that helps inform why he

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00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: didn't play last week. Maybe they thought he couldn't handle

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Speaker 1: two in five days and so they kept him out.

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a huge, huge game for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: If they can win on the road, they're right back

1113
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: in it. And your sweating bullets. Yeah, but when you

1114
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: watch them, you're right, there's something like one first when

1115
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: it's third and long's it's over, it's they might as

1116
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: well punt on third and long. They should be the

1117
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: first team to do that in a while, because I

1118
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: think they're one for seventeen or something like that on third, wrong,

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00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: third and long. Because it's all Mallet, worm burners, it's

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Speaker 1: all him, just thrown at the feet of people. It is.

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Speaker 1: And there's no surprise that the Houstons are dead last

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00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL in yards after catch because there's no

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Speaker 1: after catch element in their offense. The Evans Silva, the

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Speaker 1: Road to World grinder, who we'd have to get on

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Speaker 1: the show at some point, had this tweet on Mallet.

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallet lacks anticipation, athleticism, touch an ability to locate

1127
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: passes and an understanding of his own limitations, but sums

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Speaker 1: it up. But he's good at making Dan hansis laugh. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love Ryan. I'm happy that he started because the

1130
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: Texans aren't going anywhere. And Cleveland Springsteen. I like that

1131
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: he looked kind of say, the lead singer of Live

1132
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: but he can to play either. That's a good point.

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00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: The Texans aren't going anywhere. Let me ask you guys this,

1134
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: John Fox is punting his season. They're trying to get

1135
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: the best draft pick possible. It does Bill O'Brien have

1136
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: enough job security to pull that off? M because it

1137
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: when you start Ryan Mallett back to back games like this,

1138
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: it certainly seems like you're punning. You're seeing I I don't.

1139
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking any coach wants to

1140
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: ever lose, even John Fox. Hey, just it's just not

1141
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: in anyone's DNA that you want to show up because

1142
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: it's such a miserable experience to lose. I think they all.

1143
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe John Fox is punting this season. I

1144
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: think he's doing everything. What are you talking about? He's

1145
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: misguided in what he is gonna win. He's misguided and

1146
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: what's gonna win games. But I think in his head

1147
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: that's his way of tried to win that game in Seattle.

1148
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: I think let's look at it from another angle. I

1149
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: have to agree that at this level that pro coaches

1150
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: who have zero job security, worse than ever before, aren't

1151
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: punting away season starting in week five because you're not

1152
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: gonna be there. You're not gonna the next night either.

1153
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna fire well, I don't think

1154
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna fire O'Brien either. I think he could have

1155
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: a three and thirteen season, and he is that organization

1156
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: doesn't need jerk and blow the thing up every two

1157
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: on a different point and more kind of like a

1158
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: big picture of football thing. I'm just curious what you

1159
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: guys think. So, like the Texans, there's a chance because

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00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: mostly because of this quarterback play, that they're gonna go

1161
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: three and thirteen or perhaps even worse. Uh J J. Watts. Sometimes,

1162
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: like in the off season, when we talk about who's

1163
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL and J. J. Watt

1164
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: sometimes it gets beats out Aaron Rodgers when those discussions happen.

1165
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: Isn't a little interesting that you could have the greatest

1166
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: football player on the planet defensively and it doesn't matter,

1167
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: and you can never say the same thing about quarterback.

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00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: It just kind of points out, first of all, how

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: important quarterback is, but also maybe the J. J. Watt stuff,

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Speaker 1: as great as he is, it's it's just kind of

1171
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: it's apples and even player. The Giants needed Phil Sims

1172
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: to go have finally get off the schneid and have

1173
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: a good season for them to turn into a The

1174
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: proof was two years ago, what was the Texans record.

1175
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: I thought that that JJ Watt deserve a Defensive Player

1176
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: of the Year that year. I thought he was the

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00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: best defensive player of the year court as Kennedy did

1178
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: win it one year when the Seahawks went to in fourteen.

1179
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's football. It's such a team sport and

1180
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: it seems so obvious, but one player does not make

1181
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: that big of a difference less it's the quarterback quarterball question.

1182
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is best player in football and has been

1183
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: for five years, but should like a defensive player, even

1184
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: be in the top ten. But it's not most valuable.

1185
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: He's the best at what he does. I mean, Aaron

1186
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: Rodgers is a better football player. He impacts the game

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00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: in a greater fashion. You know, I just like to

1188
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: ask those kind of big picture things. It just to

1189
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, bend your ears, get those minds thinking a

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00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: little bit. Go find me one person, wheels Aaron Rodgers

1191
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: on their team. A couple of years ago, during Mark's

1192
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: protest against the top ten list where he listed all quarterbacks,

1193
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: that was it was the right kind of thinking. Well,

1194
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he's shipwrecked a segment, but it was good.

1195
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: Well listen in the name of truth a cause, and

1196
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: his case was spark Finally just put Andre Johnson at

1197
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: number six. That I don't know. I'm sure someone made

1198
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: a gaff that that was the year they didn't put

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones and Andrey Johnson's uh the right highest paid

1200
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: number five receiver in the league right now, have a

1201
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: catch on Thursday on twenty targets. That is hard to do.

1202
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: Not a great fantasy pick by the old jusus. I'm

1203
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: still holding out hope that he's just getting acclimated. I

1204
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: know it sounds naive, No, I hope he's been such

1205
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: a great player for so long. I just hope that

1206
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks don't trust Hi him and Dayne before we

1207
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: go real quick, uh, winner and score. Mark Sessler of

1208
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: what Thursday night game cults to ten? Wow? He comes

1209
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: back with a ven problem. We just ranked the Texans

1210
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: is the the second worst team in the entire league.

1211
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: It's not crazy west, Uh. I predict that JJ Watt

1212
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: will have more sacks and the Texans havelf point. All right,

1213
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: what's the score of the game? To six? J J

1214
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Watt has seven sex Wow, that would be funny. I

1215
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: like your score so much. I agree with it. Six cults.

1216
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: I don't think the cults are very good right now,

1217
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say seventeen thirteen. We get a little entertainment.

1218
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 1: It's ugly football. Frank Gore, the Inconvenient Truth bounces back

1219
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: after a tough week. Ryan Mallett two pick sixes. I

1220
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: reserve the right to change, if change that pick of

1221
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: luck doesn't play, But now it's going to bomb out again.

1222
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Well, let's be honest. That's a good

1223
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: it's a good show to be honest on. Let's not lie. Okay, alright,

1224
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: that's it for today's show. Hey, um, Sydney, Uh not yet,

1225
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: not yet, not yet, Sydney. I just want to check

1226
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: out with you and say, how is your first show?

1227
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: I know, I like that you're very eager to like

1228
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: a Google intern filled with hope and belief. Yeah, well,

1229
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: thunder Lust trying to start on a high note. You are.

1230
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: I think I would get give you a solid grade

1231
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: A plus for shure nowhere to go but down? Yeah exactly.

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01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say so, welcome to boards. A

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Speaker 1: lot of fun times ahead. That's it for the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast Tuesday edition. We'll be back late Thursday

1235
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: early Friday, so check it out. This is Dan Hanzas

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: signing off for The Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the Boss,

1237
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: and Sittney behind the Glass until Thursday night.