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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Looking for a flawed Woman.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansons. I come to you still

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Speaker 1: a virtual room, and I'm already field park sister. Great,

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Speaker 1: here we go, starting spinning forward, no combined obviously this

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Speaker 1: week Pro Days ramping up, and free agency next week

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Speaker 1: the draft after that. It's all happening. I'm waiting to

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Speaker 1: see if it happens, because it it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: it yet. I do feel like the NFL has been

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Speaker 1: a little bit on pause, waiting to find out what's

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Speaker 1: up with the salary cap stuff. There's there's franchise tag

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Speaker 1: might get to like, is there a chance free agency

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Speaker 1: gets delayed? I don't even think that's off the table.

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Speaker 1: It's a little it's still is very covid a acted.

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Speaker 1: I feel like right now, I'm not sure what's I mean.

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Speaker 1: I just the chance to sit down in my own

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Speaker 1: home this time and watch one Pro Day after the next.

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Speaker 1: Is it's the stuff of the adult dreams um and

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Speaker 1: just to cycle back on the on the money tag

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Speaker 1: to open the show. You can't find a flawed women.

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Speaker 1: They don't. They don't. Women don't have flaws. That's I've

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Speaker 1: always felt that, and especially don't look at me that

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Speaker 1: way like you know that's that's a fact that I

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Speaker 1: just unfurled. And we will not get Gregg to chime

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Speaker 1: in on that. On the topic he speaking of money,

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Speaker 1: I want to introduce a special guest sitting on in

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Speaker 1: on today's episode. Yes, he is a renaissance man, is

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Speaker 1: what he is. Uh. He is an NFL Network star.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he uh co helms the Power ranking show

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network. But he's also one half of the

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Speaker 1: shock jock team Petros and Money Sports. And he's also,

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Speaker 1: of course the voice of the Los Angeles Chargers, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know who we're talking about, also the voice of

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Speaker 1: God post that Money Smith. Welcome back. Oh it's great

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Speaker 1: to be here, gentlemen. Thank you for for inviting me.

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Speaker 1: What what an honor to occupy one of these four

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Speaker 1: squares with a sweet, hasty lick. I'm that in some

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Speaker 1: colorful course from what I when I envisioned being like

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Speaker 1: a nice Stevie Ibanez, you know, and those strings being

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Speaker 1: tickled by Steve I or Eric Johnson, just a guitar

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Speaker 1: of the ship. I know, I love it. I love

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Speaker 1: it and it's still going. I do. Uh, it must

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Speaker 1: be tough for you though. Money. You have all these

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Speaker 1: jobs where you gotta be super professional and it's still

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Speaker 1: going and uh still going. Stevie, Yes, in the in

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Speaker 1: the corner um that was good paid out. My brother

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Speaker 1: was a big Stevie by guy big guitar. Do not

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Speaker 1: be back in the eighties. Uh. But like you've got

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Speaker 1: all the serious jobs money where you've got to be

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Speaker 1: like the host and keep things moving. And then as

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Speaker 1: Dan mentioned, you've got like the shock Jack roll where

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Speaker 1: you just are mixing it up and calling guys losers

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Speaker 1: and you know, trying to get as much negative attention

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Speaker 1: as you can. It's weird, that's economy. I would you

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Speaker 1: know what. I'm a pushback on that immediately, Greg, because

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Speaker 1: I like to think that that that that would that

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Speaker 1: would lend me to believe that you've never really listened

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Speaker 1: to the Petros and Money show. There is certainly negativity,

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Speaker 1: but I think the negativity is more self deprecating in nature.

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Speaker 1: And then it is all encompassing, all encompassing. It's we

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Speaker 1: we go after everyone everything, and then as we throw

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Speaker 1: that boomerang, it comes right back and hits us. Upside

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Speaker 1: the head tenfold because we realize our great failings through

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Speaker 1: I say that because I appreciate it as opposed to like, um,

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Speaker 1: We do like by the way, we do often like

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Speaker 1: to play hips from Felgar and mass Uh. It is.

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Speaker 1: It is fascinating, like but they're they're clips that you

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Speaker 1: It's like, wait, people are still doing radio this way

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Speaker 1: that the term shock jock is misupplied. So I'm with you, Money,

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Speaker 1: I think that if anything, there's a openness between you guys.

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Speaker 1: on the sports knowledge the sport talk. It'll sneak in there,

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Speaker 1: Petros and Money show listener to me And I would

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Speaker 1: imagine you guys want the around the NFL podcast to be,

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Speaker 1: and that is father son bonding. I think that is

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Speaker 1: That's well said. I absolutely agree with that and money. Um,

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Speaker 1: like I said, Voice of the Chargers. But a man

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Speaker 1: I mean, the man is going to be a huge

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Speaker 1: Um here in California, we're gonna do some buy sell

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Speaker 1: the movie rights, singing, Hey baby, let's keep in touch,

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Speaker 1: music guy. Uh to the now, I'm already singing I

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Speaker 1: There was a Blues Traveler wormhole that Cessler went down,

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Speaker 1: era of pandemic virtual um togetherness, Greg has a resting,

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Speaker 1: As a as a regular listener of the Around the

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Speaker 1: I was surprised by it, but that to me, just

427
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: because they have some cap space and they want to

428
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: get aggressive. I think the Raiders maybe want to get aggressive.

429
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: That just tells me they don't think he's very good.

430
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 1: Like if they thought if they thought he was as

431
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: good as he was when he signed that contract, he'd

432
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: still be there. Flora is getting a bit of reputation,

433
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like he'll he'll he'll change gears pretty quick.

434
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: Not I don't think that's a bad thing, but he's

435
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: he's switched out his coordinators each year. He switched out

436
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: his players, his quarterbacks, Like, he doesn't mess around when

437
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: he's sours on you. I like that they have co

438
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators. You could kind of seeky blame the other

439
00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: guy behind the scenes things go poorly. That's a that

440
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: the florist things are, right. It's a double edged sword, right,

441
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: because I think one of the things that that any

442
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: business is tough to to kind of deal with and

443
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: embraces the art of quitting and how important it is

444
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: to quit and move on when something's not working. Now,

445
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: the flip side of that is, hey, maybe Brian Flores

446
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: is the problem, and you're busy cutting everybody else and

447
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: blaming everybody else and pointing the finger when ultimately maybe

448
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: it goes all the way to the top. I mean,

449
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: that's given him. I'm giving him the leeway. I went

450
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: drown the Titanic. To to quote Solomon Wilcot's on the Bengals,

451
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: He's two for two. By the way, offensive coordinator is

452
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: a big gig to get. Obviously, it's one of those chairs,

453
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: coveted chairs, because the many times it could be a springboard,

454
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: uh to the biggest chair head coach, Do you really

455
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Speaker 1: want to be a co offensive coordinator? I feel like

456
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: that's a tough spot, like and it leads, it could

457
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: lead to some backbiting and just some internal turmoil, and

458
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: like I deserve credit for this. No, it's your fault,

459
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: all right, Well, very much depends on the two personalities

460
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: of the co uh people in a chair, and we

461
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: don't that's a mystery to us. I think we just speaking,

462
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, because it doesn't happen in the NFL a lot,

463
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: just here in l A speaking to the draft, you know, USC,

464
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: which has been a rudderless ship and an abject failure

465
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: under Clay Helton. Um the last few years, they had

466
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: always employed a passing game coordinator, a run game coordinator.

467
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: We had a red zone coordinator, like the word was

468
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: when it was at its worst was t Martin was

469
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: basically calling the plays until they got to the twenty

470
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: and then Clay Helton would take over calling plays. I mean,

471
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: it's just there's no way to run a football team.

472
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: And you wonder why, you know, they are no longer

473
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Speaker 1: mentioned with the other Bluebuds in in Alabama and Georgia

474
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame and Clemson. Ness barely gets a sniff

475
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: of that anymore because it's just been such a disaster.

476
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: And that speaks to, you know, making sure, Okay, it's

477
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: fine to move on, and it's fine to cut baits sou,

478
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: but let's just make sure it's not a quirk in

479
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: the personality, that it's not necessarily production related. But you

480
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: better be able to get along with this guy in

481
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: order to stick around. I mean, look, that's what happened

482
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: to Pete Carroll at SC. You know he oh, I

483
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: should say this. Allegedly, UM was not happy with all

484
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: the praise that Norm Chow was getting. UM and all

485
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: the credit that Norm Chow was getting for having basically

486
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: saved Carson Palmer. This this hercules of an individual. You

487
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: know that when you saw him up closer, Like, my gosh,

488
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: if I wanted to build a quarterback, this is what

489
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: it would look like. And he just was kind of

490
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: a middling player through the majority of his career at SC.

491
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Chow comes in, the guy wins the Heisman, they start

492
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: that run and the next thing you know, Norm Chow

493
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: is out of a job after winning a national championship,

494
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, what just happened? Right? Um? In other news.

495
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: So you have um guys being shopped and reports out there.

496
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz, that's one name. That's one name out there.

497
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: He's the tight end for the Eagles, a big time player.

498
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he caught a game winning touchdown passed in

499
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a few years back. He's coming off

500
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 1: a bad year where he's all banged up and couldn't

501
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: really move. And also, and this seems to be getting

502
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: overlooked and people talking about the end of zach Ertz,

503
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: a terrible quarterback situation for most of the year. Uh

504
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: he is reportedly on the market, uh right now, also

505
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: on the market. This one was a little bit surprising

506
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: because you want to think this is a player would

507
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: have a robust trade market. But Adam Schefter reports that

508
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: the Lions have had trade discussions with other teams regarding

509
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: backup Chase Daniel, Who's one of those dudes that's a

510
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: great locker room guy, great locker room guy, and sometimes

511
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: that keeps you in business and up alignment. Um. A

512
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: couple of alignemen out there also floated as being shopped.

513
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: Andrew Norwell, the Jaguars guard and Kevin Zeitler, the New

514
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: York Giants guard. Uh So some interesting names there, and

515
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: in a preview of maybe who's getting cut later this week,

516
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: that is some much Zeitler and Norwell, you know, we're

517
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: guys who you know, in hindsight probably ranked way too

518
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: high on you know, Chris Westling and I was top

519
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: one oh one when they were free agents. I mean

520
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: those guys got huge money. Well Zeitler got got traded,

521
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: but he he was a big time free agent. Norwell same.

522
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: It's like and there's always those, it's always guard. I

523
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: don't know why. Guard is a position. Tackles it too.

524
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you can plug this guy in for

525
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: the next like ten years, Like this is as safe

526
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: as it gets. Well not really, like a guard's only

527
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: gonna save your team so much. Get a good offensive

528
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: line coach, like you know, get a good scheme that

529
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: that matters. More like your guard is only gonna save

530
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: save these guys so much. So we can say that

531
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: the Browns won the Odell Beckham trade. If Zeitler is

532
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: getting kicked to the corner this soon after the transaction,

533
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: we'll see if O'Dell Beckham is We'll see if O'Dell

534
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: Beckham is kicked to the current. I think they did

535
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: it did fine for both of them. Is it fine?

536
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: We'll see I mentioned you mentioned coordinator Greg. I think

537
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: this is uh, just more talk. That's enough. No, you

538
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: guys always thought I missed Norm Chow'll run with Vince Young.

539
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: That was Fune loves is usc hype videos? That paying

540
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: to that. Nobody Nobody gets better recruits and puts together

541
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: better hype videos and then doesn't develop the talent, then

542
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: sc um. No, this is a tip of the cap

543
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: to one of your favorite folks. I thought this was

544
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: a perfect way to describe it. Move the sticks, Daniel Jeremiah.

545
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: When all the all the talk about how much are

546
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: we paying these head coaches now? And are we really

547
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: gonna pay Urban Meyer eight million dollars a year? You

548
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: kidding me? It's like, yeah, that's uh, that's Andrew Norwell's contract.

549
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: So would you rather have Andrew Norwell or would you

550
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: rather have Urban Meyer coaching your team? Because the same

551
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: guy that's scratching out the check is going to be

552
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: asked to write that check. It's it's it's just a

553
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: it's a perfect way to illustrate pay the head coach

554
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: whatever the heck he wants pay him. Pay the offensive

555
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: line coach, like, yeah, like that's what zach Ertz is

556
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: due to make. That's why I'm not really buying there's

557
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: multiple Like when they say multiple teams are interested, to me,

558
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: that's probably like giving up a pick swap for the

559
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: sixth to the seventh round or something. What does he makes?

560
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: Looked done done to me. He was eight million dollars.

561
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: I know he's been banged up, but that's part of it.

562
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: He he reminded me of Owen Daniels a little bit,

563
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: like towards the end of his career with those some

564
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: of those routes. Sometimes for tight ends, it just it

565
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: comes quick. I mean he was going through some physical stuff.

566
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: Will never forget, you know. Uh. In other news, Mika

567
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: hyde Um and the Bills agree on a two year

568
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: contract extension worth nineteen point to five millions, So he

569
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: was due to become a free agent after one season

570
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: to make sure they keep him in house. And finally,

571
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: and this was very disturbing news to me because I'm

572
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: just not ready for it to be over yet. But

573
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 1: John clayton Um of ESPN reports that Ryan Fitzpatrick quote

574
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: looks like he's going to retire. How about that? That

575
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: surprised me, I thought that there was this was someone

576
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: with a great desire to start a year ago, and

577
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: I think he could quickly get work somewhere else as

578
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: a like the greatest bridge guy around. I mean, he

579
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: could still make some more money, so retirement would surprise me.

580
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I don't typically buy that stuff until

581
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: it happens. And I could see him getting pulled out

582
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: of retirement if the right team fell into chaos down

583
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: the down the line. He's sneaky ancient. He's turning thirty

584
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: nine later this year. But Greg and I think I

585
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: think you had him in your top forty free agents. Um,

586
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: he's been playing some of his best football, So I

587
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: don't know if if if it's this situation where he's

588
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: ready to move on to the next stage of his life,

589
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: or like Mark is alluding to here, that it's part

590
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: of a ploy to put it out there, come get me.

591
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be somebody's back up forever.

592
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean a ploye is strong, but that's possible, or

593
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just like, well there's no news

594
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: right now, and John Clayton, who has a radio show,

595
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: and see like someone pulls that off of him talking

596
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: on his radio show. That's not like, I don't know

597
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: if it was like a hardcore you know report, It's

598
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: just this is this is the life of an aggregator

599
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: right now. John Clayton, Greg Rosenthal just throw it out.

600
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: He didn't like he didn't see his name. Also, by

601
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: the way, that that kind of gets to what I'm

602
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: talking about. What teams are putting out feelers for these quarterbacks,

603
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: right I don't think any because they're waiting to see

604
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: what happens. They don't even know. Like if Fitzpatrick is

605
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: disappointed by the lack of tampering going on, it's like,

606
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's doing I don't think they're doing

607
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: it with that level of quarterback yet. They're just waiting

608
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: and seeing what's going on with this cap and all that.

609
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a tipping point for Fitzpatrick though

610
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: in terms of money, you know, because he didn't I

611
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: believe did didn't. He played last year without his family, right,

612
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: they stayed and he was so that's what I mean.

613
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: So he wasn't with the family the COVID thing, so

614
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: he couldn't go to see them or else. He had

615
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: to sit out for fourteen days. You know my understanding,

616
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: it was a pretty tough year for him off the field.

617
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: So I wonder if you know, reduce cap like you said,

618
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: he's not getting any feelers like you know what, I'm

619
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: not playing for a million bucks, you know, or one

620
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: point whatever. He's like, if someone wants come to give

621
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: me five six million bucks, okay, I'll do it. And

622
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: then that brings you to the cap, like, who's really

623
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 1: given that guy? When the cap is gonna shrink by

624
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: twenty million bucks, five or six million bucks to be

625
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: a bridge or a great backup, you know what I mean?

626
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: And I and how annoyed is that? Why after like

627
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: a seven months of an NFL season with seven children

628
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: and the dad figure has not has not been home

629
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: for even three minutes. That's tension in a in a

630
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: barrel for you. Um. But if I'm fits or Andy

631
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Dalton or or Teddy Bridgewater or James Winston or whomever,

632
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm rushing uh to that meeting with the Denver Broncos

633
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: because if you want to look for a job where

634
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: you have a path to play playing time, even if

635
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean a week one starter, hell yeah, get

636
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: up there and beat out Drew Lock, and all of

637
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you might be set up with a nice gig.

638
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Speaker 1: That's the dangerous like that's the for for General Patton, Right,

639
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: that's the dangerous signing because you can't have someone that's

640
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, to commanding of the locker room or Drew

641
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: Lock never has a chance no matter how cool he

642
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: looks mild and lyrics on the sideline before a game. Uh.

643
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: But you also want someone that could legitimately beat him

644
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: out right, because you're not entirely convinced that he's the guy.

645
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Speaker 1: That is a like, who would you who would you

646
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: think is the best fit for that? That kind of

647
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: fills both of those lanes. If you're still crossing your

648
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: fingers that Drew Lock could be the guy of that group.

649
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: Fitz isn't a bad one, but I wouldn't. I would

650
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: go with them someone that's just like better at playing

651
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: football than Drew Lock. That seems like, what's like a

652
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: good idea for That's what I'm gonna be looking for.

653
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of those guys that seems like. There

654
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: was a report that came out over the weekend from

655
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: a player saying like Drew Lock is doing all the

656
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: small things behind the scenes that will make him a winner.

657
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: And when I hear that the players done, we have

658
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: our first trop aller to the off season behind the

659
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: scenes to improve. Okay, okay, all right, that's what's happening

660
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: in the news, all right, as promised money. You you

661
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: you dabble, You dabble in the old stock market, don't you?

662
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Um sure, I think that's one way to that's one

663
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: way to put it. Yeah, I've I I enjoyed the

664
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Speaker 1: world of finance probably more than any other, any other

665
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: the world of sports, the world of music. Finance is

666
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: kind of my bag. I really do. So it's more

667
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: than dabbling. Dabbling is not serious enough. Um well, I

668
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and trust, you know, I trust what's really important to

669
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Speaker 1: those that truly know what they're doing. But because I

670
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: have a hell of a well, I have a misguided

671
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: um sense of grandeur, so I I believe I too

672
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: can beat the market. And I have a couple of

673
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: my own accounts that I that I operate and have

674
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: with some some success and some some great success and

675
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: some great failures. Like most who get into the world

676
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: of finance would would say. But yeah, like some of

677
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: my favorite podcasts or finance based podcasts, economics, so um whatever.

678
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: So this show is not helping you out, shows helping

679
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: me tremendously. I want a party with you, cowboy. That's right. Hey,

680
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: we put on Econ Talk with Russ Roberts. Let me

681
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: tell you, boots starts plowing and we get excited. And

682
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: if you could money and help the uninitiated. I have

683
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: a d the nuance knowledge of the whole game Stop situation.

684
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: But where do you come down on this? Well, part

685
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: of me it really enjoys it um because you know,

686
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: for those that don't kind of haven't followed it. The

687
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: idea is a bunch of dudes got together and well

688
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: and by dudes I mean people, men, women, whomever on

689
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: Reddit and decided, hey, we're gonna increase the mean. Look,

690
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: that's what happens, right, People buy a stock. The value

691
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: of the stock goes up because there's more money invested

692
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: from the public. It's a public traded company, so the

693
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: more money that comes in, the more it's worth. Um,

694
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: you know. So they decided, you know what, let's do

695
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: game Stop because all of these hedge funds have shorted

696
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: the game stock, the game Stop stock. Now what does

697
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: that mean? It means that they have basically placed a

698
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: bet that the price of the stock will be considerably

699
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: lower in the future than it currently is now. If

700
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: the stock price goes higher, high or higher higher, those

701
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: short calls come do and you have to pay your bill, Like, hey,

702
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: remember you said you had these shorts here. Well, yeah,

703
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: that's not happening, so you're gonna have to pay us.

704
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: And in the case of these hedge funds, it's billions

705
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: of dollars that the rising price of this stock um

706
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: has led to these calls um, so margine calls, you know,

707
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: the short calls. So I find it entertaining, but it

708
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: also doesn't do a whole lot for confidence in the

709
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: market for the late person, like wait a minute, what

710
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: am I doing? So I can put my money in

711
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: this company and it's not really worth that much, but

712
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: somehow it becomes worth all. You know. It makes it

713
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: a bit confusing as to how it works. And I

714
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: think it's a quick reminder that essentially the stock market

715
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: is a form of gambling. You know, you are you

716
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: are placing bets on future outcomes. That's what you're doing

717
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: when you buy a stock. What is the future of

718
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: this this stock certificate or this stock that I have purchased. Uh,

719
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: that is what's going to determine whether or not I

720
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: win or I lose this bet. Right, But unlike gambling,

721
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: it's like gambling, at least you know who won or

722
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: lost in stocks like you don't necessarily even you could

723
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: be totally like it could be all this fraudulent that

724
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: the you know, companies that weren't aren't worth much their

725
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: stocks go out and company. You know, it's like it

726
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: blows your mind. I'm it's uh, it's it's some of

727
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: it is out of whack and doesn't make sense, but

728
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: the performances like look at don't I don't even know

729
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: if we can do this individually, right because I'm not

730
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: a licensed financial advisor. Um, But like you look at

731
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: something like Tesla, right, it doesn't make sense, but the

732
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: future projections are so promising for Tesla, even though they

733
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: have not been able to you know, the price to

734
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: earnings ratio is so out of whack and makes no

735
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: sense from a classic market perspective, which I think the

736
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: SMP is typically somewhere between thirteen and fifteen. And when

737
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: you're trading at a hundred and fifty times you're earnings,

738
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: you're like this, this, you can't sustain this. But then

739
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: you kind of look at the company and you're like, well, yeah,

740
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: everybody that has one loves it. They buy more if

741
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: they can deliver more. If they could just ramp up

742
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: manufacturing and distribution. My god, everybody would want a Tesla

743
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: now that you know. So it does make sense in

744
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: that way, right down that avenue. So I don't want

745
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: to get too deep down this logy. You've done it again.

746
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: I've done it with music, now I've done it with this.

747
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: This is when I realized that I am just a child.

748
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. I can

749
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: tell that you're that you're that you know what you're

750
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: talking about, but I don't know anything about. Sorry, I'm

751
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 1: gonna talk about free agents. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's

752
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 1: it's far more interesting than than football money. I'm gonna

753
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: offer you a challenge. By the end of this episode.

754
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: I would like you to cook up some type of

755
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: NFL related stock scenario that mirrors the game Scott Stop scandal. Okay,

756
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: just let that percolate in the back of your mind

757
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: and we're gonna come around to it when whenever you're ready.

758
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: But let's let's get it go. Hey, let's ring the

759
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: opening bell. Stephen Manny filling in again for Ricky Hollow,

760
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: and let's do some buying and selling of NFL stocks money.

761
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: Why don't you get us going? Actually, uh, well, I

762
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be an easy way. This is

763
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: what we would call a blue chip, right, a blue

764
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: chip stock. You know what you're getting there there, it's

765
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of sizzle, but you feel

766
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. Uh. And it's probably expensive because it's

767
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: an established company that is going to keep selling their

768
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: product and you're not too worried about it going bankrupt.

769
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: There are seeing, you know, earnings reports that are dramatically

770
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: lower than what we're projected. But it's Trent Williams Like

771
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: to me, we talked about the Raiders cutting three fifths

772
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: of their offensive line. The Chargers are probably gonna lose

773
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: four fifths of their offensive line. Um, and you know,

774
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: Bobby Massey, I think just got got booted from Chicago today.

775
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: To me, Trent Williams, that's the guy like that. It

776
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: all starts you see it. Look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, right,

777
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: I mean it all starts with the offensive line. If

778
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: you can get that group right, I just feel like

779
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: your prospects of winning NFL games because there is so

780
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: this is terrible to say, right, but there's just so

781
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: little elite talent. It seems like, I don't know why

782
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: it's become the time, it seems like it's almost tougher

783
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: than quarterback to figure out offensive tackles. Um. And I

784
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: think we know he's good. He is damn good. And

785
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: when we were seeing him do those box jumps before

786
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: he showed up in San Francisco after the grade lest

787
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: you were like, my god, what in what world is

788
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: is that trade not worth it? Um? And that's why

789
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: you might even be able to make the case if

790
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: the Texans weren't so bad that the Tunsil trade was

791
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: worth it to have a twenty five year old at

792
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: that position that you can maybe lock up long term.

793
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: So that would be my number one by of of

794
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: any free agent out there, especially in terms of how

795
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: many different teams could use him, right, so many. I

796
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: do wonder if the Jaguars are just gonna throw stupid

797
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: money at a lot of these guys, and Trent Williams

798
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: would would make sense, although he might be the rare

799
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: guy that's made enough money and will make enough money

800
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: on this contract no matter who he plays for that

801
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: he actually considers. Do I really want to play with

802
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer? I was just you know, with Washington, you know,

803
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: like he might actually consider, Well, the cults are offering

804
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: less guaranteed money, but it's still a massive contractor or

805
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: picking a situation. You're right. He is gonna make more,

806
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: I think, than any player available, and I think it

807
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: will be by a lot. I don't think there will

808
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: be a clothe like if we if we're doing those sandwiches,

809
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm taking Trent Williams and you guys can have the field.

810
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: I usually want the field, and you have him number

811
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Speaker 1: two overall on your top one on one free agents, Greg, Um,

812
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: I'll throw it out there, Greg. How about this money?

813
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: And I got a volatile stock? Stock volatile okay? And

814
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: for those that aren't in the know, like me and

815
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: money are Um, that's the type of stock that can

816
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: move up and down wildly to provide great profit opportunities,

817
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: but also it comes with greater risk, and which brings

818
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: me to a name that came up earlier, Odell Beckham Jr.

819
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: I want to see what's happening here with Odell. Obviously

820
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: he's currently rehabbing, uh the A C. L tear that

821
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: ended his second season with the Browns prematurely. And we

822
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: all know what happened after that. That Baker was very

823
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: up and down with O'Dell there, and a lot was

824
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: made of it, whether it's fair or unfair, and curious

825
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: mark your thoughts on that that Baker play a more comfortable,

826
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: um successful brand of football once O'Dell exited the lineup

827
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: when he wasn't quote unquote trying to force a total

828
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: These are the narratives that that came into being after

829
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: Odell exited the lineup. And I'm wondering, Now you step

830
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: back and you're you're in the UM Brown's front office

831
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: and having these conversations. Okay, he has three years left

832
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: on his contract, no guaranteed money left on the deal.

833
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: The Browns can get rid of fifteen point seven five

834
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: million by trading or releasing Beckham, freeing up some very

835
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: valuable salary cap space, especially at a time when you

836
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: now have proved that your offense can function without this

837
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: high profile, volatile stock. Not a volatile man. He gets

838
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 1: a lot of grief, but he's he's fine. A little

839
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: bit left of center maybe as a personality, but not

840
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: not a bad dude by any stretch. So I think

841
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: it makes sense that the Browns would potentially move Backham,

842
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: even if they're saying otherwise right now, Kevin Stefan's guy

843
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: can't wait to have him back, blah blah blah. And

844
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: I wonder what they could fetch in a trade, because

845
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: the Giants deal was a blockbuster. I wonder I have

846
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: to two options more like a big picture Odell. What

847
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: if the brown sent Odell in a third round pick?

848
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: Could they get a first round pick for Odell Beckham

849
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: in two thousand one, I think he's about twenty eight

850
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: years old. Would you get O'Dell for a high second

851
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: round pick in a trade? Would you do that if

852
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: you were the Browns? And then I'll have a more

853
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: focused one here. What if O'Dell goes to let's say

854
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: the big splash desperate Chicago Bears for Allen Robinson straight

855
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: straight up in a sign and trade situation? Tag and

856
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: trade Allen Robinson? All thoughts, I just I find it,

857
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: um somewhat um. I would be a little bit surprised

858
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: if O'Dell's on the Browns in September thought, I would.

859
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: I think there's something to that. Um. You also have

860
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry commanding fifteen million plus, so those two players

861
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: are eating up thirty million dollars this season, and it

862
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: is in a sort of impossible question to answer, I

863
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: think to say, are they better without him? Um? I

864
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: do think this. I think that Baker Mayfield the whole,

865
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: the whole Baker Mayfield experience. He thrives when he is

866
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: the alpha UM. And I think that there is if

867
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: you want to talk chemistry, that no one's gonna say

868
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: they're a better team without the talent of Odell Beckham

869
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: on the field. But in terms of like Baker and

870
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham really getting into sinc, I would say that

871
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield looked ten times more comfortable throwing the balls

872
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: for Chard Higgins, who uh really didn't exist in but

873
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: had great chemistry with Baker and ten and so I

874
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: would um dismiss the idea that they're better without Odell.

875
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 1: But I could see them moving on because I don't

876
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: think that what he's done in Cleveland has hiked his

877
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: UM value. It's it's lower, it's been lowered, if anything.

878
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: So when do you sell to get as much value

879
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: as you could. I don't think it's two years from now.

880
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: I think it would be now. I love that Robinson idea.

881
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: That would be fun. Odell is one of those guys

882
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: where it's not crazy to just throw out crazy trades

883
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: because his contract now is such a plus in terms

884
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: of being able to trade him. His contracts great. There's

885
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, as you meanted, no guaranteeing money. He's making

886
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: under fifteen million dollars a year in cash. He's not

887
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: he hasn't been healthy enough to want to ask for

888
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: more money, so that that's actually like very attractive. I

889
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: would think to another team, especially a team like the

890
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Bears or some you know, teams who was trying to

891
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: like get out of their own situation. But you're gonna

892
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: have to like make sure Odell is happy, uh to

893
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: come to you. I would buy some Odell stock right now.

894
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's at a low and uh, I

895
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: would guess I would guess he'd be back in Cleveland,

896
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: but but he is not. It's not a crazy one

897
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: to throw out there. All right, Greg, you're up next. Alright,

898
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not trying to like um kiss up

899
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: or anything here, but I'm gonna I'm gonna throw out

900
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: just like, how about us stock in UM in the

901
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: NFL in the logo, what do we call this the shield?

902
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: The stock for the shield? Right now, let's go. I

903
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: think it's a good time to buy. They just uh,

904
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: all these other sports leagues are gonna get stuck with

905
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: two seasons getting getting hit by COVID hard. I'm not

906
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: saying that NFL season isn't gonna get affected by COVID

907
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: who who knows um, but I don't think it's gonna

908
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: get hit as hard as this second season of the

909
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: NBA and NHL for instance, and other sports. Uh, after

910
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: all of this that just happened, they're selling all these

911
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: TV deals for like double the amount. Like it like

912
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: it it proved, it proved a little you know, not

913
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: COVID proof, but the ratings and everything are just like

914
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: on an astronomical level. It's like you're getting you're getting

915
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: the same amount of people um to watch this like

916
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey, uh buster with Marco as like Bengals Jaguars

917
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: on a Thursday night football and then you know it's

918
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: like like it's just it's just kind of amazing to me.

919
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: They're giving out the bonuses. That's a good sign. We

920
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: found out the NFL. It's like it does feel like

921
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: they weathered the storm and this TV deal is just

922
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: gonna like bring in all this money. And this cap

923
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: situation is a little bit of an issue this year, um,

924
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: but it's all gonna just like skyrocket back up. It

925
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: just struck me this week kind of watching you know,

926
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: the other leagues and how they've got their own issues

927
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: that the NFL, if they're coming out of this with

928
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: doubling their TV deals, it was like, what, did it

929
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: really hurt them? Score one for the underdog. Yeah, I

930
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: mean it's like you hate to say it, right, but

931
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's built for the pandemic. I mean,

932
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: it's it's one game a week. Uh, it's sixteen games

933
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: for a season. It's you know, it's not eighty two

934
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: of the NHL, of the NBA, it's not a hundred

935
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: and sixty two. It's not. Um, you know, you can

936
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: you can perhaps mitigate disaster when you have, you know,

937
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 1: that limited number of contests that you have to complete.

938
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: Because I mean, I think we all probably felt right

939
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: when when it got sideways on the Ravens and we're

940
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: watching games on Wednesdays and the Steelers are pissed that

941
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: they got to play this game. Wait a minute, where

942
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: we're being punished because of this? It felt like it

943
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: was you know, for those that like the skateboard, You're

944
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: on that hill and all of a sudden, the wobble

945
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: has showed up and you're like, oh, no, am I

946
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: going to be able to ride this out to the flat?

947
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: Or am I going to get some serious road rash

948
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: like that that was there that existed this season and

949
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: they were able and look, and I think that Greg

950
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: speaks to one of the reasons why they're getting they're

951
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: gonna get these giant TV deals is they showed, oh

952
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: you you want a game on Wednesday afternoon at three

953
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: pm Pacific. Yeah, there's just twelve million people that watched that.

954
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's just kind of how it's the

955
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: number one entertainment, not sport, number one entertainment product in

956
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: America and it's not. And and like, it won't surprise

957
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: me if Thursday Night becomes Amazon and streamable, it won't

958
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: surprise me if they come out Friday night football or Wednesday, Well,

959
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: they won't do Friday for the kids. But it's a

960
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: TV product, it's not a live product, I think, exactly right,

961
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: exactly right. I mean, it's you know, there's something about

962
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: being at the ballpark with you know, with your friends,

963
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: you know, and just kicking back and throwing a few

964
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: back or with the family and they're eating the hot

965
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: dogs and all that, compared to you know, watching it

966
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: on TV. It is much the same with you know,

967
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: who do you know anybody that's ever been to an

968
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: NHL game, They say, dude, that sport is amazing in person,

969
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: and they will not watch a single second of it TV.

970
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: Yet they will gladly go to an NHL game, uh

971
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: in the arena because it's a blast. So yeah, you're

972
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, it's it feels like, speaking of stock,

973
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: it feels like we are at the the not just

974
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: the fifty two week high, but the all time high.

975
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: And and when stocks get to that, like when you

976
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: look at an Amazon stock and you're like, wait a minute,

977
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: I gotta drop d dollars to buy one share of

978
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: Amazon stock. That's what we're talking all. Yeah, And do

979
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: you know anyone who's gonna stop using Amazon in the

980
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: near future or in the foreseeable future, So go ahead,

981
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: and buy the because it's probably gonna be a share

982
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: before you know. And I think that's the NFL of

983
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: which you speak. That's what the guy who bought all

984
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: the Blockbuster stocks said in two thousand three. Well, and

985
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: he was that was a death moved three was a

986
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: little late there for um. By the way, you you

987
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: brought up the Marco Prince Harry Oprah interview, Greg Um

988
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: quite dismissively too, by the way. No, No, I mean

989
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's like as big a blockbuster as there is,

990
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying, like that does like a Thursday

991
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: night football, right Like I My wife, Greg has Oprah

992
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: and the John Clayton category just a public enemy in

993
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: a nuisance. Um. No, the My wife is a certified anglophile.

994
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: She loves all that stuff. And she she said to

995
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: me before the show aired yesterday, said, oh, yeah, this

996
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: this interview that's going on, which I had no idea

997
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: what it was, and I fell asleep watching it with her.

998
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: But she was like, oh, yeah, this is gonna do

999
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: like Super Bowl numbers. And I was like, what, No,

1000
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: it's not. There's no way it's gonna do monster numbers.

1001
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: And then the next morning you know how it is.

1002
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: We're all married and you have these little battles and

1003
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 1: you just want to win the battle. So the next

1004
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: morning I wake up and I'm like, okay, I know

1005
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm right. I just want to see how right I am.

1006
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a big W over coffee, Um Marco,

1007
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: Prince Harry Oprah. Huge number, seventeen million people watched it.

1008
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: That's a huge number. Obviously super Bowl fifty five and

1009
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: ratings that were down for whatever reason. Nineties six million

1010
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: people watch that game. That's how you double your contracts

1011
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: in pandemic. Little W there, I mean, how did you?

1012
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: Were you? It's so you got you scored the big W.

1013
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Were you cantankerous or were you a gentleman in your victory?

1014
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: Total jerk about it. But that's you know, because I

1015
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: know she's usually gonna beat me and most things, and

1016
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm usually one that's wrong. So when when you do

1017
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: get a chance to get the W, you run with it.

1018
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: Um okay, let's move on here. Um up next. Mark Sessler.

1019
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: I like to uh, if I were to operate in

1020
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: the stock world, when you feel just a vibration that

1021
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: something's on the rise, that that there's something out there,

1022
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: a property, a new idea, UM, an inventor, an inventive individual.

1023
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: I buy my stock in in that. And I am

1024
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: getting in early on the Brandon Staley experience in Los

1025
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: Angeles when they hired him. And first of all, no,

1026
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: this was the guy that I think, Um, he triggered

1027
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: a lot of glowing think pieces last season, and having

1028
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: read a couple, I thought, all right, here we go

1029
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: with the Rams again. And they're literally they're all their

1030
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: little shiny little boys, perfect little coaches. But the more

1031
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: I read about Brandon Staley, UM, I became kind of

1032
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: like very intrigued. And then when he went to the

1033
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: Chargers and I am not bringing this up simply because

1034
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: the voice of the Chargers is on the show with us,

1035
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: it feels like that would be a good place to

1036
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: do it. But um, when he you know, all the coaches,

1037
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: and I think it was a tough year there, as

1038
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: contractually obligated when the charges come up on NFL network programming,

1039
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: go continue, no, no, no, Well I would just say that,

1040
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think that it was a tough year

1041
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: to be a new hire because your interviews aren't done

1042
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: in big rooms with hundreds of people in lace and

1043
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: confetti and all this stuff. You're you're stuck on zoom. Um,

1044
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: Like the Eagles coaching staff came out looking real clunky,

1045
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: and that's a talking point. And I went down. I

1046
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna watch Brandon Stilly. I think I

1047
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: texted you guys like I watched every sort of intro

1048
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: thing he did one day and I was blown away

1049
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: by And I mean this in the nicest way. He's

1050
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: like an intense nerd in the in the most perfect

1051
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: way a football coach could be. I think he is

1052
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: UM the kind of coach that we're going to be

1053
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: talking about in glowing terms a year from now. And

1054
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: I think it's the right kind of dude for the

1055
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: Chargers at this point. And so I'm buying. I'm buying

1056
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: with all the capital I have. I'm putting it in

1057
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: to this stock right now. We know money's buying. UM.

1058
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: I've I've been, you know, because of unfortunately that you know,

1059
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, the world we're living in. I haven't had

1060
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: a chance to to kind of get with him as

1061
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: much as I would have liked to UM, but the

1062
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: limited interactions I've had, he's he's impressive. I mean, it's

1063
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: can you coach, I don't know, but just in terms

1064
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: of interacting his ideas, the way he answers questions, I'm

1065
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: really impressed by the staff um In particular, I did

1066
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: not know this special Team's coach Darius Swinton that, like,

1067
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, I've been on all the zoom calls and stuff.

1068
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: That dude is impressive. Like he was talking about, you know,

1069
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: what they had crafted in Arizona clock management team, situational

1070
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: football in the final five minutes team, and he was

1071
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: part of that. How you know, you think about that

1072
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: video that went viral of Larry Fitzgerald, you know, he

1073
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: was the getball guy to set it down. He's like, oh, yeah,

1074
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: that was stuff that you know that we work on

1075
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: every practice that we're responsible for. So I like the staff.

1076
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: I like, you know, bringing in Lombardi and then also

1077
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: bringing in someone from the Kyle Shannah entry, and when

1078
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: you talk to him about, you know, how he staffed up,

1079
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, it was an interesting answer, which is, well, yeah,

1080
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: we we want to have as many possibilities as so

1081
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: we can. We can take from this pot from this spot,

1082
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: and then you know, we gotta get with Justin and

1083
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: to figure out what works with him. Before we know

1084
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: what kind of offense we're gonna run. So I figured,

1085
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, here's a guy that's worked with Breese for

1086
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: this long, that's part of it. Here's someone that's worked

1087
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: with Kyle. I was in, you know, with Sean McVeigh um,

1088
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: and and so I just kind of like the way

1089
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: he's he's built the staff a you know, just sort

1090
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: of the presentation of I'm a listener, I'm an aggregator,

1091
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: and it's not all about me, It's it's about finding.

1092
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: And then on top of all that, oh, you dude,

1093
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: is just hear what Jalen Ramsey had to say. I

1094
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: don't know if he saw the Derwin James quote. It

1095
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: was pretty damn funny though. He said. You know when

1096
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: when we were at Florida State, was like, man, I

1097
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: don't like Jimbo, and I'm like, I'm all right with

1098
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: Jim but he's pretty cool. He goes. And then you know,

1099
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: I got Gus as my defensive coordinator, and Jalen calls me.

1100
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: He's like, man, that Gus Bradley don't know what he's doing.

1101
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, I kind of like Bradley goes.

1102
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: Then I get a call from Jalen. He's like, hey, man,

1103
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: this Brandon Staley guy just the best coach. So I

1104
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: think that, you know, just to have someone that certainly

1105
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: seems like he could be an adversary or not an

1106
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: adversary but a little you know, have issues with coaching.

1107
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: To hear him seeing the praises along with von Miller

1108
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: and Khalil Mack and just like all those guys, I

1109
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: think speaks well for for the future of Brandon Staley.

1110
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about Joe Lombardi though. I mean,

1111
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: I love Justin Herbert and you and you hire a

1112
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: guy who was, you know, had a pretty uninspiring track

1113
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: record and not a lot of people were beating down

1114
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: his door to get and that's the franchise and his

1115
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: defensive coach. That's that's my worry because I just want

1116
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: to see Justin Herbert be like the best quarterback in

1117
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: the NFL, because I love watching that much. I mean,

1118
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, there's that relationship there with Staley and Lombardi.

1119
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Where Lombardi coached him, I think at Mercyhurst is where

1120
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: he was um when or I don't know if it

1121
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: was dating. I think it was a Mercy Hurst that

1122
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: they were together. Um, I get the sense, though, Greg,

1123
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: that Staley is going to have his hands in a

1124
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: lot like he's he's gonna be a conductor, and you know,

1125
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: he's got his here's your brass, here's your woodwinds, here's

1126
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: your percussion. But I'm running this thing. Uh, this is

1127
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: this is my orchestra. That's kind of the vibe. And

1128
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: he does it. And that's what's great about him, right

1129
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: he does it without saying it but also intimating it,

1130
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's a very tough dance

1131
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: to do in the NFL because people don't like me.

1132
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: I did this, This was my creation, you know. So

1133
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: it's what it is, you know. And if you're a

1134
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: RAMS fan that's bummed out that you've lost this guy,

1135
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: we'll also you can look at it as when Sean

1136
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: McVeigh hired him, everybody was like, who's this guy, what's

1137
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: he gonna do? What kind of he's gonna be better

1138
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: than Wade Phillips. Well, he certainly seemed to be an

1139
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: upgrade for the RIM. So it seems like McVeigh knows

1140
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: what he's doing in terms of talent acquisition. All right,

1141
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: let's go before we say goodbye. Let's go around the

1142
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: horn one more time with a little bit of a

1143
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: speed round. Um, who started? I don't remember? Money started?

1144
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: And then money you give me another one, and then

1145
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna put a cap on it with

1146
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: your amazing games stop comparison unless you wanted to share

1147
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: it now, but it's coming. Just know that's coming. Oh yeah,

1148
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: that's right. Um, what was my game stop comparison? Again?

1149
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: I had to compare something to what the game stock

1150
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: is some artificial artificially inflated, artificially inflated Okay, um, you

1151
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: know what, So here's what I'll do. We bought now

1152
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell. Um, I would sell wide receivers. You're

1153
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: talking about Odell Beckham at fifteen million. Allen Robinson is

1154
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: going to make eighteen million. It just seems like and

1155
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: I think all of that is a product of you know,

1156
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: what maybe is recent is three to four, maybe five

1157
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: years ago. We just didn't see wide receivers coming to

1158
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: the league and catch on right away. It took him

1159
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: a year or two to kind of get comfortable. I

1160
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: feel like we're past that, you know, I feel like

1161
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: you're drafting guys in the first or even the second round, right,

1162
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: and everybody does this with Arry McLaurin and A J.

1163
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: Brown like DK Metcalf, Like it just feels like, if

1164
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: if I'm limited, if I'm hamstrung, and I gotta worry

1165
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: about a cap going down twenty million bucks, I don't

1166
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: know if I want to spend you know, twelve fifteen

1167
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: million bucks on Marvin Jones or twenty million bucks on

1168
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson and stuff like that. To me, scared, I

1169
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: would much rather pour those resources into offensive line or

1170
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: defensive pass rushers, you know, or secondary you know. I

1171
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: like that. To me, that just seems like a better

1172
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: place to park your money than wide receiver right now.

1173
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: I like it. It's a good call. Yeah. I mean

1174
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: along those same lines, Um, why pay top dollar? Like

1175
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: you're saying, maybe you can get a guy like Nelson

1176
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: Agilare at at a cheaper rate, and you look what

1177
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: he did when he was actually played in the right

1178
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: position with the Raiders. If the Raiders don't keep him,

1179
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: I would love him if you can get him at

1180
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: a good value. Um, But for me, I wanted to

1181
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: focus on a stay away and it's another Raider from

1182
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariana. I'm seeing his name floated a lot. It's

1183
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: a lot it's been out there like he's gonna be

1184
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: traded here there, and maybe the Bears. He makes sense

1185
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: for the Bears who really are looking for something uh

1186
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: fresh and potentially exciting at quarterback. And I'm thinking about it,

1187
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: and I remember Mark, you and I did that Thursday

1188
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: night game against the Dolphins in week fifteen, and you know,

1189
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: singing his praises, what a what an excellent performance that was,

1190
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: and the Raiders gagged away the game. Otherwise that would

1191
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: have been a huge story of Mariotta saving their season

1192
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: and all that. And I I think you can get

1193
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: caught up with one game, um and then not see

1194
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: the bigger picture and and perhaps make a mistake like

1195
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: let's say the Bears will use them again as an

1196
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: example trading for him. Be like, Okay, this guy, we're

1197
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna take a shot on Marcus Mariotta again

1198
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: when we had years of evidence in Tennessee that, uh

1199
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: he couldn't play the guitar. So if that would be

1200
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: my one guy to be very wary of, because if

1201
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: he didn't have that one game in December, you want

1202
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: to be hearing all this stuff about him right now. Yeah,

1203
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more with you on that. And I

1204
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: chuckle at these explosive reports that all these teams are

1205
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: inquiring about him. If that was ever the case, It's

1206
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: like who were all these like who's who's like heat

1207
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: seeking Chase Daniel right now? I mean a lot of

1208
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: this feels like um percolating whispers and nonsense. Uh, I

1209
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: could imagine coaches those Still, there's certain coaches out there

1210
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: that would look at Mariota and always be fascinated with

1211
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: his skill set. And so when it was when you

1212
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: saw what you saw in that one one game, it's like,

1213
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: maybe we can get him for a little bit less

1214
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: and adam to an offense. But again, maybe that's your

1215
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: Denver move. Where Like, he's not spicy enough to totally

1216
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: blow away Lock, but he could be an attractive you

1217
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: know part b his skill set and his draft pedigree.

1218
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: It's a number two overall picked me. I'm staying away

1219
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: from both those quarterbacks in draft as much as Greg

1220
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: loves Jamis Winston and night Guy. But I would say

1221
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: the difference between the Chase annual situation, whereas that might sound,

1222
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: that might be hot air and a team just try

1223
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: to drum up a market or an agent or whatever, um.

1224
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: Whereas I really do think that in our league there

1225
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: are going to be front offices and coaches that that

1226
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: that was a primetime spotlight game that are like, oh,

1227
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna this guy. I can fix him.

1228
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: I can make him a sixteen game starter. Like I

1229
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 1: think that happens in football, as silly as it maybe

1230
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: because it's really well, you win Coach of the Year

1231
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: if you do. I mean, it's a great narrative, his story,

1232
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: and that's how coordinators become head coaches. Half the time,

1233
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: there's too many of these guys available, which is why

1234
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm selling stock on my top one and one

1235
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: expect the quarterback rankings, they ranked them all to just

1236
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, all those guys at the top. Cam jamis, uh,

1237
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: you can throw Mariota in there, even though he's not

1238
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: on the one on one, and Fitzpatrick and Dalton and

1239
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: even Tyrod keep going on. It's like there's too many

1240
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: of them. Actually, so the market isn't there, and that's

1241
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: on me. So I'm selling me and that that's connected

1242
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: to Teddy Bridgewater. Like, man, he his stock is at

1243
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 1: a low right now. I might even buy because, like man,

1244
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: no one really wants it. Like he has seen his

1245
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: stock plummet since about mid November. He finished the season poorly,

1246
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: and his team doesn't want him. He's got this contract.

1247
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: No one really wants him. I'm staying away from Patrick Peterson.

1248
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: There's a future Hall of Fame around on things going.

1249
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go a bunch of rapid fire, and

1250
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: then finally I'm buying Jalen Hurts. I like where he

1251
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: is right now. I like the news that his owner

1252
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: kind of wants to build around him. Feel like people

1253
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: aren't really feeling Jalen Hurts that much. He was a

1254
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: little up and down, but I think he's gonna be

1255
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: putting a nice little situation. I'll buy some Jalen Hurt stock. Okay, Hey,

1256
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: by the way, you've been speaking at quarterbacks, Grere, you've

1257
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: been suspiciously quiet on another free agent quarterback, Gino Smith,

1258
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: who's coming off a point to passer rating this season.

1259
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: I think he threw three passes, But like you know,

1260
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: it's important that you've always been a big fan of his,

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: and maybe it's time to either make some type of

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: statement about Gino Smith where we are right now? Well,

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01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: I think I think he's he's established where he is.

1264
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: He's a winner, and uh, if you want your team

1265
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, um, you bring him in. The

1266
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: Chargers did it. If you want someone to counsel a

1267
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: great quarterback like Philip Rivers or Russell Wilson, you bring in.

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01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: Gino is a fit in the locker room to know

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01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: his role, to call the coin flip correctly, and to

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01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: bring a winning atmosphere. So that's where he is. He's

1271
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: not a starter right now, but he's kind of like

1272
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: you want a winner, you want to bring him in,

1273
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: and you want another set of eyes for a great quarterback.

1274
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: That's where Gino is. I mean, all those things you

1275
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: said are absolutely on point and accurate and true about

1276
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: Geno Smith. But I I find it odd and odd

1277
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: pairing that you're the hype man for a flat earth

1278
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: or you don't seem to be the kind of person

1279
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: that would be into flat earth. Every everyone's you know,

1280
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: have got their own. You know, it could be differences.

1281
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: We want a diversity of opinions. And uh, if he

1282
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: gets one more contract, he's officially outlasted. Rex Ryan's head

1283
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: coaching career Gino Smith, so only attract something like that. Actually,

1284
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that Greg. You know,

1285
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: Greg's a football man, okay, and football man they don't care.

1286
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: You want to be a flat earther off the field,

1287
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: that's fine, But you've come in it is building and

1288
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: you sit in my quarterback room and you're gonna help

1289
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: my guy get better every day, day and day out.

1290
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: Then you know what, by all guys, I'll sign me

1291
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: up for that flat Earth, round Earth, whatever, how many

1292
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: moons or orbiting Earth. I don't care. I'm a football guy,

1293
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: and Gino is a football guy to sign them up.

1294
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: And you know, not to dwell on it before we

1295
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: move on, because I want to hear Mark's final thoughts.

1296
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: But all this talk about the Seahawks and Russell Wilson

1297
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: and all the drama and Mike Dugard on the show,

1298
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: and like, oh, what are the Seahawks gonna do if

1299
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: they trade Russell Wilson? Well, how come nobody's saying, well,

1300
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: look in their own backyard? Why how about that Greg?

1301
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: People just missing the boat on that he is. He

1302
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: is an unrestricted free agent, so they would have to

1303
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: compete for him. But yeah, that would that would be

1304
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: a tough spot. Gino Smith taking over the so Wilson

1305
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: the Seahawks that that team without Russell Wilson, I'm not

1306
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: sure how good they would be think about all the

1307
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: coin flip, not very good where that's That's where I

1308
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: would suggest, all right, before we get to Money's game

1309
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: stop comparison, which I really pumped up about um, Mark Sessler,

1310
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: I'll try to buy you some time here, Money Uma.

1311
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 1: So you know, here's one thing I am. I am

1312
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: buying um into a concept that things have changed because

1313
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: of Corona and some things we've mentioned this the off

1314
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: seasons might look a little bit different. They already do.

1315
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: I think that I'm buying the concept that the combine

1316
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 1: has peaked, um, that the combine essentially will never be

1317
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: the way it was ever again. Now. I mean, I'm

1318
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: not saying that it's never going to occur, but even

1319
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: even every occurrence. Now, by the way, I don't know

1320
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: if anyone's tracking this this week and Mark Sessler's wishful thinking. No, no,

1321
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: like it's like it's one more commentary. That is such

1322
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: a great call because when we would hang out at

1323
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: Shoelace late night, nobody had a bigger asset eaton grin

1324
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: on his face when he would walk through that door

1325
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: than Cessler that look at I love the combine and

1326
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: the celebratory nature of UM. That card I like, but

1327
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: you know it's We're a week removed from Daniel Jeremiah,

1328
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: someone that I personally trust the opinion of UM saying

1329
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: that things like the forty yard dash are absurd. No

1330
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: one is that you have you have like devices and

1331
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: tracking software on players that show you how fast they

1332
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: move in game during game tape. That the whole idea

1333
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: of standing around and watching this guy run a forty

1334
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: yard dash in a sterile environment with no one around

1335
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: him in a silent field. UM doesn't doesn't track the

1336
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: way that it used to, and I'm not look at

1337
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: some things they do are incredibly valuable, and I think

1338
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: the meetings in the getting to know players all that stuff.

1339
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: But I do think that the combine as we know

1340
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: it has peaked. I'm buying that stock, but you know what,

1341
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm an inexperienced trader. Well I'm buying into that on

1342
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: episode is that what would I be doing? And then,

1343
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: by the way money you're you reminded me, now that

1344
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: is the happiest I've ever seen a person and I

1345
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: remember it was me, you and Check sitting at the table.

1346
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: Shoulas and I can't give too many details to protect

1347
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: everyone involved, but we actually saw Mark skipping toward us.

1348
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: It was a hilarious smile. It was hilarious like two

1349
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: am and maybe like I was like one thirty two

1350
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: in the morning. Uh, And it was like I won't.

1351
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: I'll I'll leave those involved nameless to protect the innocent.

1352
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: But I'll never reminded me because remember he came in

1353
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: and then he was like I'm going back out. He

1354
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: was like I'm going out, Like we're like, wait, where

1355
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: are you going? It's and uh. And it reminded me

1356
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: when I worked with the Lakers. We were in a

1357
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: playoff series. We the Lakers were in a playoff series

1358
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: and uh and we were in Phoenix and Money Average

1359
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: thirteen and ten and uh No, I was just a

1360
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: physical presence, but you know as a couple of rebounds,

1361
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: set a lot of picks um and we were leaving.

1362
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, we had been out late and I was

1363
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: out with the training instead. The guys that I hung

1364
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: out with, like you know, the strength and you know

1365
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: those guys that particular group. So we're out late, we're

1366
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: coming back. I'm not exaggerating when I say it's like

1367
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: three in the morning, maybe four. And as we're walking in,

1368
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: one of the starters from that team it's just strutting

1369
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: out like it's like it's four in the afternoon, just

1370
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: reeks of like cool water cologne or something, and we're like,

1371
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: hey man, He's like hey, like going. I was like yep,

1372
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, put it all on Phoenix tonight, Jack.

1373
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: And that's what Cesla reminded me of. We were just

1374
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: kind of winding down, sitting at that table, like where

1375
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: were you and what were you doing? Let's have a call,

1376
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: Let's have one more pot before we go to bed,

1377
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: says comes in and then he's like, alright, guys, I'm

1378
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: out of here. I have a good one. Suckers. Well

1379
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: celebrate enjoy life, is what I said. Absolutely. It was

1380
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: the highlight of my combine that year. Um, all right, money, now,

1381
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: I did put you in the tough spot here. If

1382
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: you didn't come up with one down the line, you

1383
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: can Here's all I would say. This. This is like

1384
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: maybe the closest I can I can put it the

1385
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: historically speaking, right, Um, the like Russell Wilson, I think

1386
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: fits into this mold because you had all of the

1387
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: historic institutions. You know, the franchise is the general managers,

1388
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: the press, team president saying no, no, no no, no, this guy,

1389
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,919
Speaker 1: this guy cannot You can't have a five foot ten quarterback.

1390
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: It won't work in the NFL. And then you would

1391
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: have like when I remember at the combat, It's one

1392
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: of my more vivid Combine memories was sitting with Russell Wilson.

1393
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, Bucky and I used to be on the field.

1394
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: We would interview everyone when they weren't working out, they

1395
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: would just walk over and chat with us because we

1396
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: were on the field. Um, we were the only people

1397
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: on the field really outside of the people running the drills,

1398
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: and like both of us could not We were like,

1399
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 1: who was that guy that that that's the most impressive

1400
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: player we've ever been around and the history of the Combine,

1401
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: And every single scout that we talked to was like, dude,

1402
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: that guy killed his interview. His tape is great if

1403
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: only he wasn't five ft ten, And like all of

1404
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: those scouts were trying to tell these franchises and these

1405
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: general managers forget about the hike just forget about it.

1406
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: Trust us. We know, we know, we know. Meanwhile, you know,

1407
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 1: they were essentially pardoned the paunch, shorting the Russell Wilson

1408
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: stock because of how short he was, and I all

1409
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: blew it, you know, they all, they all blew the

1410
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: best quarterback to come out of that draft that had

1411
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: r G three and and Andrew Luck because they were

1412
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: weren't willing to overlook the heights. So I hope, I

1413
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: hope that works. I don't know if that that makes sense.

1414
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: It's it's now, I don't know. I thought it was delightful. Well,

1415
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,879
Speaker 1: because game stop is well, I don't know, is games stopped.

1416
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: So you think the future of game stop is that

1417
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: like as like a no, I just mean in that,

1418
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean in that moment, and that in that particular

1419
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: moment that they all, um, you know that all the

1420
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: is you could argue that all those teams lost money

1421
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: that did not bet on Russell Wilson because they you know,

1422
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: and and all of the people that supposedly didn't know

1423
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: what they were doing. One just came. One just came

1424
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: to me, and it's going the opposite direction. And this

1425
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: is sort of under the assumption that eventually game Stop,

1426
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't ever figure out how to become a

1427
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 1: twenty first century company. And that's Tim Tebow just a

1428
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,839
Speaker 1: bunch of like people that were like overly like everyone

1429
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: convinced themselves that Tim Tebow could play professional football like

1430
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: every like everyone did. And this is why it's like

1431
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: it's revisionist history. All the draft analysts for on our network,

1432
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: on every network, like no one was like, yeah, I'd

1433
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: put an undrafted grade on him or like you know,

1434
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: I like everyone was convinced. Even when the Broncos took

1435
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: him there that it was like a lot of people

1436
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: thought it was like that's a good move, Like okay,

1437
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: the guys that were down on him was like a

1438
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: second round pick and it was like this insane artist

1439
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel was a little bit like that too in

1440
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: hind sight. But it's like in our official inflation of

1441
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: something that's not so here's the only reason why that

1442
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: one doesn't work is because sorry Greg, but it's because

1443
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: essentially people are people like the the institutions bet on

1444
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: Game Stop to fail. That's what they did. They placed

1445
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: bets that said this is going to fail. And then

1446
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: these groups they're called reddit Raiders, decided to pool all

1447
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: of their money and say, oh, oh, you have shorts

1448
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: on here. Well guess what, Uh, We're gonna raise the

1449
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: value of this stock. You're gonna get short squeezed and

1450
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you somewhere in the neighborhood of five

1451
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: or six billion dollars. Here, I think is a good

1452
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: one college football. College football offenses, and all the people

1453
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,480
Speaker 1: that were like that will never work. Don't draft quarterbacks

1454
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: that are dual threat. Don't you bring your spread offense

1455
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: to the NFL. This is the NFL. This will never work.

1456
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: And then what did you get all of these young

1457
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: Bryan Woonderkins, Uh, Sean McVeigh, Cliff Kingsbury. They're like, oh yeah, Lincoln, Hey,

1458
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: can I come visit you, Lincoln Riley in the summer

1459
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: to see how the Oklahoma spread works? And now every

1460
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: head coach goes there every summer. That's what happened. They

1461
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: finally had to get their come up ins. Uh. They

1462
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:11,480
Speaker 1: were humiliated for their unwillingness to evolve and their stagnant offenses.

1463
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: And now look at what the NFL looks like. I

1464
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: think I think that works out there. We made it.

1465
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: Ring the closing bell, baby, they did it. It took

1466
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: me an hour in twelve minutes. Alright, Money, you've said

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Speaker 1: it all. It is always I've said too much a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on our show, and I won't

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Speaker 1: be invited back anytime soon. I talked too much, and

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Speaker 1: I always tell myself at the end of it, I'm like, God,

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Speaker 1: would you just shut up and listen? No, don't, don't

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Speaker 1: say that to yourself. I I enjoyed myself, and I

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Speaker 1: sense in my intro of you when I called you

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Speaker 1: a shock jock, completely ingest and the fact that Greg

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Speaker 1: took that ran with it, really heard I of irony,

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Speaker 1: Like the point of you saying that is of course

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Speaker 1: he's not a shock jack. You know what, what is it?

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Speaker 1: What is it gonna take seven more years of doing

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Speaker 1: this podcast? I guess so. I think you're You're so

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Speaker 1: subtle iron Greg's Greg's irony is so subtle, you know,

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Speaker 1: its facetiousness, so subtle it's hard to read. I mistaken

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Speaker 1: for snark. All right, good stuff, money, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I love you guys, and and uh, obviously locally you

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Speaker 1: petrols of money. But where's the where it? Could people

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Speaker 1: see you on the network right now or you're going

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Speaker 1: to be part of this draft coverage, and you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm doing the I'm doing the s C pro day,

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Speaker 1: So I think that is I'll be doing it with

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Speaker 1: DJ and I think we got a shot at being

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Speaker 1: out there. So very excited about that, so that that

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Speaker 1: would be the next time anything. And I want to

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Speaker 1: hear you. I want to hear you bury them like

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Speaker 1: you did on this podcast. That was that's that's not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen there. Greg. When we get on campus, we

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Speaker 1: celebrate that well. And you know what the thing is like,

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Speaker 1: I'll always celebrate the kids, you know. I mean, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna celebrate the heck out. I'm on

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Speaker 1: Ross st. Brown who went to uh, you know where

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Speaker 1: both my daughters go to high school Modern Day. A

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Speaker 1: couple of championships there, and celebrate Elijah Vera Tucker and

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Speaker 1: all those players. That's for certain. I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: that's one thing we can agree on is you always

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Speaker 1: celebrate the kids. It'd be funny after you did, because

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Speaker 1: like you just did. Um alright, So make sure I

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Speaker 1: keep an eye out for money. And thank you everybody

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Speaker 1: for listening. We'll be back on Thursday. We have one,

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Speaker 1: one more show this week and then our network show

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Speaker 1: returns on Friday. So make sure to set your d

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Speaker 1: v R if you still have a DVR set the bastard.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's it. This is Dan Hanson signing off

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Speaker 1: for Matt money Smith, the Quiet Storm, the Old Boston,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Manny behind the virtual Glass. Yes, we'll see you Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Until then, o heed the Call. Six