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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith State is that?

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Speaker 3: Whoo whoo? And them and tie Dan Ruberstein, welcome back

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Speaker 3: to the show, My good friend.

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Speaker 2: How you doing today? I'm good? A little under the weather,

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Speaker 2: but come on, life is so good. We're seven weeks

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Speaker 2: into the college football season. A lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So what am I even complaining about? I can take

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Speaker 2: a twenty minute nap here and there to fix things.

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing well.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's been what about forty eight hours now since

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Speaker 3: all hell broke loose with Week six and the upsets,

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Speaker 3: and we got a bunch of questions about those, so

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk through a bunch of them as

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Speaker 3: part of today's episode. This is the Tuesday episode. If

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Speaker 3: you've been listening all year. If you haven't, here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: This is the spillover episode. So we do the reaction

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Speaker 3: show every Saturday night at midnight. We obviously can't get

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Speaker 3: to everything because we can't watch all the games. We

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Speaker 3: need more time to kind of digest and think, put

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Speaker 3: our feelings together and then really react again for a

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Speaker 3: second time to everything that we saw transpire. Obviously, Week

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Speaker 3: six was pretty jam packed on that front. So today

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Speaker 3: spillover episode, we've got some lingering thoughts, some games that

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Speaker 3: going to get into that. We also have a Verballer

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Speaker 3: segment that came to us courtesy overbowlers dot Com, as

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Speaker 3: well as a new Verballer Top twelve poll, as well

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Speaker 3: as a bonus set of reverbs. This is a loaded

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Speaker 3: episode today, mister Rubinstein. Yeah, I assume cal One I

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Speaker 3: went to bed. No, I actually didn't go to bed.

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Speaker 3: We finished recording the show. We got all our video

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Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, one point. It was thirty five

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Speaker 2: Quarter, and then it was a thirteen point lead in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and Miami kept chipping away, and there

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Speaker 2: was a targeting call that was investigated for targeting and

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Speaker 2: there was no targeting that cal fans are maybe rightfully

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Speaker 2: the fact, you saw those pictures popping up on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I want to say it was maybe Chris Venini from

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Speaker 2: The Athletic posted that and a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: their feelings, and I always stand it. I've been following

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Speaker 2: going to criticize anybody for being in their feelings either way.

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Speaker 2: If you are playing in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 2: quite literally the middle of the night. Rhys Davis is

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Speaker 3: It was like two sticks rubbing together in there for

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Speaker 1: He did it. He did it. Admirable job all things considered.

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Speaker 2: but that's what it sounded like that, you know, everything

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Speaker 1: Very early on is flu game is what? That was?

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Speaker 2: The Jordan Flu game that was. It was an admirable

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Speaker 3: So look, I want to talk more about that and

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Speaker 3: Top twelve, which, by the way, we've got a new

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Speaker 1: Let's start at number twelve with.

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Speaker 2: Your Indiana Hoosiers as lasch as mine. It's America's Indiana

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Speaker 3: The Hoosiers at number twelve got to win this week

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Speaker 3: in over Northwestern, not always the prettiest of games, but

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Speaker 3: Indiana at number twelve is a choice, but okay, I

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine if Nick Saban didn't leave when he

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Speaker 1: We might be talking.

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Speaker 2: About a team just scoring one hundred points regularly. Kurtit

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Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti would be having a dunk contest down there

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Speaker 2: Would he force the Kirby Smart retirement?

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Speaker 3: Number eleven Iowa State, Iowa State still unbeaten.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more about Iowa State YEA in their

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Speaker 1: That game was at night.

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Speaker 1: Now they are number eight.

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Speaker 3: And I had it, really, I had it at forty

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Speaker 3: At number eight? Number seven is Miami? Miami held steady.

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Speaker 2: in late September early October, I think is unrealistic and

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Speaker 3: Alabama felled the sixth in this poll last week, obviously

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise.

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Speaker 3: It was really a question of how far are they

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Speaker 1: Would drop them further. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: My thinking is just like if you are going to

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Speaker 2: even though Alabama nearly choked it away against Georgia, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I think you have to use an equal

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Speaker 2: we as a collective college football universe feel that Vandy

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Speaker 3: But Penn State now a top five team. The for

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Speaker 2: Would you when you look at the teams around Penn State,

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Speaker 3: Working their way back in lost the game, but verball

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Speaker 1: Not everybody's Indiana, Dan, Let's just be real.

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Speaker 3: If there were going to be biased, it probably wouldn't

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Speaker 2: oh the second half, unless you keep generating sixty one

441
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,959
Speaker 2: yard touchdown after sixty one yard touchdown.

442
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were gassed.

443
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 3: Miami had all the moment mentum the last ten minutes

444
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: of that game. They wound up scoring twenty one unanswered.

445
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 3: Came from way behind. They stealed this one on the road.

446
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: As we said earlier, at one point they were down

447
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty five to ten in the second quarter.

448
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: So Cal had the pick six.

449
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 3: They had a bunch of long pass plays that helped

450
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: them get up and stay up for about two and

451
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 3: a half quarters.

452
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: But truly.

453
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 3: Once Miami shored that up, Cal pretty much went cold.

454
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 3: They only scored three points in the final twenty minutes

455
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 3: or so. This was not like the Vandy game. No,

456
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: this was in the Vandy game. Remember we went on

457
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: the air, we said, this was not a fluke. With

458
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 3: the way that they played, this was not a fluke.

459
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: And I was heartened to see that other smart college

460
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: football people, all of us kind of did our thing

461
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: at the same time on Saturday night.

462
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: Ty, thank you, I'm blushing.

463
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 3: Everybody said us. Everybody used the F word. Yeah, everybody

464
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: said it wasn't a fluke. So I felt redeemed by that. Hey,

465
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: other smart people said it too, Okay, did not control

466
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: time of possession. They were only twenty percent on third

467
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 3: stat third downs, which was like the total opposite of

468
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 3: what we saw on.

469
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: That Vandy upset.

470
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: This was them getting up early with some big plays

471
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: and then hanging on for dear life to that point though,

472
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: even though Miami had momentum, even though Miami was coming

473
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 3: on like a freight train in the end, there was

474
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 3: that targeting play. So this happened about a minute and

475
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 3: fifty left in the game.

476
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: It would have given Cal the first down.

477
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: This is not to say it would have iced the

478
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: game for Cal, but it would have extended the drive

479
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: when Cal was already hanging on. They were up a

480
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: score I think thirty eight to thirty two something like that.

481
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: To me, this looked like textbook targeting. I have no

482
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 3: idea how they went to the replay and came back

483
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: saying no, no, it's cool. Even brock Osweler, who was

484
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: doing the game with Rhys Davis, at first he was like,

485
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's targeting, And then he went

486
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 3: back and he looked at the replay and he's like, dude,

487
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: that's an automatic targeting call.

488
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: It seemed like it to me, And they didn't call it.

489
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: They didn't call it. Callen's up punting. Miami scores like

490
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: immediately game over. Yeah, we can talk about that again.

491
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: I think the New York Post had a headline about

492
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: Miami got a gift from the referees for the second

493
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 3: straight week on the back of that Virginia Tech win.

494
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: Two takeaways from my standpoint, the first incredible comeback for

495
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: Miami and kudos to them for not quitting, for finding

496
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: a way to get this done. There were five other

497
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: top eleven teams that could not do what Miami did.

498
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: But I will say it is two straight weeks now

499
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: where they were a double digit favorite, both times too

500
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: close for comfort. I bring this up because it's sort

501
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: of been their MO the last couple seasons, and I

502
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: like this Miami team.

503
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, I like this Miami team.

504
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: I picked them to win the ACC, but this has

505
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: been their m O now a couple of years running.

506
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: They've still got to go to Louisville, they go.

507
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: To Georgia Tech.

508
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: They end the year on the road at Syracuse, of

509
00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 3: all places. Take the points, friends, take the points. This

510
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: is not the last we have seen of a Miami

511
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: close call. I was hoping they had rid that of

512
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: their system, but I think this is who Miami is.

513
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 3: And I'm not rooting against them openly. Again, I pick them,

514
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 3: and I want to look smart, but I'm just saying

515
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 3: it seems like they still got that in them, right,

516
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 3: and I would not want to lay the points on

517
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: the road if I'm looking at Miami games here.

518
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't recommend that people go down the path of

519
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories because ultimately it's just going to fry your brain.

520
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: But this type of result in This type of ending

521
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: is fuel. It's food to have it two weeks straight.

522
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: That Like if you're the ACC and you're seeing Florida

523
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: State completely fall into the center of Earth, and you know,

524
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: North Carolina's doing nothing and all these like big name

525
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 2: programs outside, you know, in Clemson lose the way that

526
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: they did to start the season, you're doing everything humanly possible. Again,

527
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: this is how the conspiracy theory would go to ensure

528
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: that we get a Clemson Miami ACC title game with

529
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: both of those teams with double digit wins, to ensure

530
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: that maybe both of those teams get into the College

531
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: Football Playoff, and that a loss against Cal or a

532
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: loss against Virginia Tech, even if you can't see the

533
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: ball being caught or ball whatever that you that there's

534
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 2: no you know, visual evidence to overturn a called touchdown

535
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: against Virginia Tech. And then there is what appears to

536
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: be a call that is being reviewed by the ACC office.

537
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's too much fuel. You got

538
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: to you gotta ease up a little bit. Or Miami

539
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: is just going to lose to one or two or

540
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: three teams by twelve points and it just won't be

541
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: determined by you know, an ACC referee crew.

542
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, I have I have a couple other thoughts here,

543
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: lingering thoughts have been downcing around my head on the

544
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: topic of the ACC. Clemson beat Florida State by sixteen

545
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: twenty nine, three thirteen. We know that Florida State is

546
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: in a bad way right now. This is well documented.

547
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: At this point, we did not talk much about them

548
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: starting Brock Glenn over dju Who's hurt?

549
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: Who's hurt?

550
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, all things considered, I thought he looked pretty good

551
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: for his first start, first start coming against Clemson, and

552
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: is on an easy defense, and it does make me

553
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: wonder if he should just be the guy moving forward,

554
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: just just roll with him.

555
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: He's about a red shirt freshman.

556
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they hit it. I think they just

557
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: roll with him at this point. I mean, it seemed

558
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: like he was capable. I liked what I saw from him.

559
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: I really like what I see from kid Klubney. The

560
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: club level might be back on, dude, we might have

561
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: to get back in on this. He's really good so far.

562
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: Two picks to fourteen touchdowns, going downfield a little bit more.

563
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean, not an ideal start to the season against

564
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: the one decent team that Clemson has played this year,

565
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: because we are obviously downgrading NC State and app State

566
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: in this moment, but taking care of business like a

567
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: really good quarterback should against the team's post Georgia. So yeah,

568
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: I'm in on the growth of KBE Clubnick.

569
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: Also, should we just put a pool together now for

570
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: who Florida State's going to pay to be their transfer

571
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: quarterback next season? Are we thinking Eli Holstein? Are we

572
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: thinking Jackson? Arnold Holstein's going to move twice in two years?

573
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Who are we thinking here?

574
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: If if you had to put a chip on a name, Oh,

575
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: very early on, this is so premature. Oh, Matt's Luca, right,

576
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: this is borderline irresponsible.

577
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: But you go in Sluca or the.

578
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Other guy the back of Hoshey Williams. Well, look, Barry

579
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: Odom's going to take the UCLA job. So I don't

580
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: know how many times you can win ten games or

581
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: so in the in the Mountain West if you're Barry

582
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Odom when you don't have a I don't think has

583
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: a connection to the West Coast footprint of America. Before

584
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm I want to get more money than

585
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: what you and LV and everybody's trying to get more

586
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: money than what you UNLV's uffering obviously, So okay, who

587
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: are who is Florida State going to get for their

588
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: next transfer quarterback?

589
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to keep like an updated tote board

590
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: of the names that we think are. Yeah, you know

591
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 3: one of one of those guys who's listening now who

592
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: always sends me the odds for the random events. Right,

593
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: you get that, we both get those, send me odds

594
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: on who Florida Stay's.

595
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Quarterback is going to be next year.

596
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking through here at the quarterbacks who have been

597
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: successful this season thus far that are not in great situations.

598
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: But you also have to look at perhaps like a

599
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: blue chip quarterback who's sort of lost in the shuffle

600
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: as a backup, like Eli Holstein was at Alabama.

601
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: Right, that's exactly right.

602
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know you're gonna have to look at

603
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: some of them. Haines King is a year, right, I

604
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: can't imagine. I don't think that's gonna be the situation

605
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: that we're gonna see unfold.

606
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Just think it over, Just think it over. Brett's laugh.

607
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: They don't want they don't want him.

608
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: John Mattier, All right, listen, think it over. We'll get

609
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: back to you. Calandria, Colelique Murphy.

610
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: Calandria is not a bad answer. Actually, I do want

611
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: to talk about Georgia a little bit more. I want

612
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: to harken back to something that you said on I

613
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: don't know one of our shows over the last couple

614
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: of weeks, but you have been big the last couple

615
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: of years on this whole premise of what has so

616
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: and so done.

617
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: To deserve Blake.

618
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: Georgia beating Auburn was a fine win. I was not

619
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: particularly moved by it, and I do think it is

620
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: time to start thinking about this Georgia schedule, which is

621
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: very difficult moving forward, and just wondering who else might

622
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 3: they lose to. Okay, now I didn't feel like they

623
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 3: were in danger of losing to Auburn. I said it

624
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: was just was not an inspired performance until the last

625
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: like sixteen minutes of the game.

626
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: Well, what is the reasoning, Where is Georgia vulnerable to

627
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: you in this moment? Well, first and foremost, I mean.

628
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: They may be vulnerable in the road, and they're at

629
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: Texas in two weeks, they go to Ole Miss and

630
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: then they come back home the next week against Tennessee.

631
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: So it's three really good teams that are still on

632
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: that schedule. They also close out the year with Georgia Tech,

633
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 3: who's pesky, if not more right now. I've got him

634
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: at like a three and a half four point dog

635
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: in that Texas game on the road. I got a

636
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: guy's about to pick them in that Old Miss game.

637
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: What I think I am reacting most too with Georgia

638
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: is it just has felt three times now like whereas

639
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: last season they had this extra year.

640
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: To kind of zoom ahead of teams. They may still

641
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: have it.

642
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: I just haven't felt it to the same degree this season,

643
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: and so I'm worried that if they get into one

644
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: of those slugfests with a team like a Texas which

645
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: is very good, very balanced across the board, that if

646
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: they reach back to try and get that next level,

647
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: they're not going to have it.

648
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, there is something about the pop. There's

649
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: a pop lacking maybe with George's offense in this moment.

650
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: I think they have good players, but what does the

651
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: game changing star power look like? You know, when you

652
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: have somebody like you know, Jeremiah Smith at Ohio State

653
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: or even Ryan Williams at Alabama, You're like, where is

654
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: that star power on this Georgia offense coming from that,

655
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: you know, might help to cover up some deficiencies. And again,

656
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: they have good players. They legit have good players at

657
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: offensive skill. Defensively, maybe not as disciplined as previous Georgia defenses. Look,

658
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: the further you get away from the Dan Landing experience,

659
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: it's just going to be tough, Tye, you know this.

660
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: But they're also just a victim of their own success

661
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: that we're asking ourselves what is wrong with Georgia when they, however,

662
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: many regular season games in a row they won, that

663
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: they don't beat Alabama, which is fine. A lot of

664
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: people lose to Alabama other than Vanderbilt, And so we're

665
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: weighing Georgia on a different scale. I think, oh, we

666
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: definitely are.

667
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: And you know what, it's not fair to them by

668
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: any stretch, but it is sort of where we're at.

669
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: Because Nick Saban walks out, everybody says automatically, oh, well,

670
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: now it's you know, now it's Kirby Smart. Kirby Smart's

671
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: new Saban. And this year it just I was expecting

672
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: more out.

673
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: Of this team.

674
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: With all they had back, they obviously still could approve

675
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: to an incredible degree. I mean, it's still there for them,

676
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: but it's just not the same situation as was a

677
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: year ago, and the schedule was easier. It felt like

678
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: they had more of those playmakers this year were again

679
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm still waiting for that next year to arrive.

680
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: Well, they beat Clemson by how many points?

681
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: Did it start? Thirty one points? Did that happen? That game?

682
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: Did happen? The top ten team?

683
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: I just but what we have seen over the last

684
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: couple weeks now has made me feel differently.

685
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: I agree.

686
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: And this is again, this is back to our latex salesman, like,

687
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: you want to be a top five team, this is

688
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: what we expect from you, fair or not. And so

689
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: Georgia only beats Offferned by eighteen eventually. Yeah, and we're

690
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: saying to ourselves it feels different, and maybe it does,

691
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: and maybe there are elements that feel different, but I'll

692
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: echo myself once again. It's early October and teams built

693
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: like Georgia are able to look internally and figure things

694
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: out much more often than other teams. And so whether

695
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: that's against Texas, whether that's against Ole Miss, I mean, look,

696
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: winning is a skill. Georgia had that skill against Kentucky, Ole,

697
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: miss did not Texas has what is the best offense

698
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: in this moment that Texas has faced this year, Like

699
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: we're criticizing Georgia for something, Texas is like Ana with

700
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: what is the best offense Texas has faced this year?

701
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: Because it's not Michigan or Michigan's.

702
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Not on that level. It's definitely not Michigan.

703
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the number one team Texas. It's

704
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: not is it Mississippi State, It's not Utsa, it's not Monroe,

705
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: Colorado State. So we're saying, you know, we have no

706
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: questions about Texas and what is going to be the

707
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: first legit good offense Texas faces this year to like

708
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: sort of have that net crack experience.

709
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: Georgia is probably Georgia.

710
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: The first time you play like a totally decent offense

711
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: is going to be Georgia. That doesn't seem ideal for Texas.

712
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 2: By the way, I had.

713
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: The Texas schedule in front of me as you asked

714
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: that question, and the long pause was not me scrambling

715
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: to try and find it. It's been scrambling to try

716
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: and answer that question with an actual team.

717
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: Because it's Georgia. It's Georgia October nineteenth. Texas will go

718
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: until October nineteenth without playing like a clearly dangerous offense.

719
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: All due respect to Michigan and Oklahoma, but Oklahoma is

720
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: starting what a true freshman quarterback in this moment, I

721
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: don't know.

722
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: Hey, I have four other real quick ones that I'm

723
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: ready for it up. We didn't talk a lot about

724
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: the Old Miss South Carolina games. A nice rebound win

725
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: for Old Miss. I wanted to pat myself on the

726
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: back though, if I could do that, because this opportunity.

727
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: Most of my picks were wrong last week. My money

728
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: bets that I post out on Twitter were like, oh,

729
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: win four. So this is the first week where the

730
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: gods are struck back at me. But there was something

731
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: I said on the previous show that one hundred came

732
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: true in this game. Remember I brought this stat out

733
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: that both defenses were allowing a high percentage of targets

734
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: that were wide open, and that being said, neither defense

735
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: was allowing big passing plays. My theory on this game was, well,

736
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: you've got two mobile quarterbacks. It's going to break one

737
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 3: way or the other because when you got the mobile quarterback,

738
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 3: it stretches the defense.

739
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: In a way that it isn't normally.

740
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: This is where the big plays come from. Didn't happen

741
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 3: for South Carolina on offense, but it very much happened

742
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: for Old Miss. My assumption was that it was going

743
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: to snap one way or another because of that mobile

744
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: quarterback factor, and it really went.

745
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: Old missus way. They got a ton of big plays

746
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: through the air.

747
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see what transpires this week on

748
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: the South Carolina side, seeing as how their defense, which

749
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: we think highly of, was stressed by that Ole Miss

750
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: offense because they're on the road this week against Alabama

751
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: was mobile quarterback, maybe the best mobile quarterback in college football.

752
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: Look for that to happen again this week. Look for

753
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 3: it to happen in a couple weeks when South Carolina

754
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: squares off against Vandy. Look for it to happen later

755
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: in the year against Clemson. Something to keep your something

756
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: to keep your eyes open for.

757
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I trust Ole Miss.

758
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: They're a mobile quarterback problem. Despite the fact that South

759
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: Carolina's defense is very good. Is there a mobile quarterback

760
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 3: problem or a mobile quarterback enhanced threat that you should

761
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 3: bear in mind when you're picking games.

762
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Yes, But like you always should like you'd always rather

763
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: have some quarterback who can move and make plays with

764
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: his feet and his arm. So everybody's got that issue.

765
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: I think allmost is very good. And you know what,

766
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: it was something about the South Carolina game too, where

767
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't the mobility of Jackson Dart. He's still fearless

768
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: every single game he plays. He's fearless both in terms

769
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: of how he moves and throwing the ball down field.

770
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: The offense is built for him to generate explosive plays

771
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: with his arm downfield. This isn't like a screen and

772
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: go type thing. It was he was getting hit by

773
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: South Carolina edge players, defenders, whatever, and still completing wide

774
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: open passes that the secondary was getting hard. To that degree,

775
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: those tips are frosted with courage, Dan, you know it.

776
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: Of course, three other quick ones here the Florida game,

777
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: I was all in on UCF.

778
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: I figured Florida was going to be dead to rights here, but.

779
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was impressed with how the Florida defense locked

780
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: down UCF. They had five sacks, devan tackles for loss.

781
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: An interesting quirk that I'm going to bring up on

782
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: Thursday because they play the Tennessee game this week is

783
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: the quirk that you bet with Ted Roof. That's a

784
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: personal problem. Please respect my privacy time. I think we're

785
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: high on Tennessee's line, but Florida, interestingly enough, is actually

786
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: converting pressures into sacks at a much higher rate than Tennessee.

787
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: So Tennessee is getting pressure however you define that, but

788
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: they're not converting that pressure into sacks thus far.

789
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: They're actually fairly low in terms of that sack rate.

790
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: So if nothing more, just take away from this the

791
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: fact that the Florida pass rush, those numbers are way

792
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: better for Florida this season.

793
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is good.

794
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: This is again not going to be like a playoff

795
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: team or anything, but Florida's playing pretty efficient offense right now,

796
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: and I do think there are elements to that defense

797
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: that have improved. So curious to see what happens the

798
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: rest of the way here, because the schedule is not

799
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: get easier. It's going to be tough. It's gonna get

800
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: real tough this week. But I thought this was a

801
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 3: decent defensive showing against UCF.

802
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect UCF's ability to move the ball, So

803
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: what Florida was able to do here I think was

804
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: a good thing. This was this coming off of a

805
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: bye for Florida. Correct, Was this a sleeper Saturday moment

806
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: for the games?

807
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: It was?

808
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: It was I was really impressed by this win, Dan,

809
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: I genuinely was because I was. I mean, you heard

810
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: what I said. I was like, I know, billion Apier

811
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: is done after this, and this is going to be

812
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: a big one for UCF. And UCF is lucky they scored.

813
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: I mean, they did not look good and Florida made

814
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: them look bad. This was a Florida thing.

815
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: The good thing about Florida in this moment is they've

816
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: lost the games that it feels reasonable for them to lose,

817
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: right the text A and M loss, even though it

818
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: was a Marcel Reid game, text A and M has

819
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: continued to improve and look pretty dangerous. Obviously Miami is

820
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: flawed in some respects, but they've won games, and you know,

821
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: so beating UCF, beating Mississippi State, obviously beating Samford, those

822
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: are games Florida should win. This will be a good test.

823
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: And the problem is just other than the Florida State game,

824
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: there's just it just bangers only.

825
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: For Florida's skin. I know it's hard, it's hard.

826
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: So like, if we're just gonna say Florida is decent,

827
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: it might not matter, right because on one hand, you're like,

828
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: what does decent actually mean? Florida has higher expectations than

829
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 2: decent this many years into a coaching tenure, And then

830
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: like you look at Kentucky, Georgia, Texas, LSU Ole, Miss Tennessee.

831
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: Decent just not gonna get it done against maybe the

832
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: LSU defense. But outside of that, I don't know. I

833
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: just it's going to be a long year still to

834
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: me with Florida. And on your point about them converting

835
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 2: sacks or converting pressures to sacks, I'd like to remind

836
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: people there are a lot of bad outcomes other than

837
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: sacks that can happen with a lot of pressure. Quarterbacks

838
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: can throw errant passes. Quarterbacks and have tip passes. Quarterbacks

839
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: and throw interceptions. Quarterbacks can soil themselves. And I raise

840
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: my hand with that that if Tennessee's defensive line was

841
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: bearing down on me, maybe they won't get to me.

842
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm throwing it away in time, But my underwear

843
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: is probably not looking the same as it was pre game. Yeah,

844
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 2: so bad things can still happen. You want a defense

845
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: that generates pressure, whether or not that's converted to sacks

846
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: or not.

847
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: Two other things bounced around in my head about the

848
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: Big twelve. Yeah, Iowa State. We talked about Iowa State

849
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: now number eleven in the Verballar Top twelve pole big

850
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: one this week on the road against West Virginia that

851
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 3: we're going to preview. Their ground game is slowly rounding

852
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 3: into form. Okay, slowly rounding into form to sixty five

853
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 3: on the ground against Baylor this past week. A balanced

854
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: Iowa State may not.

855
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Lose this season. Wouldn't that be something?

856
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: It is a good team. It is a good team.

857
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: They've got a good defense, They've got a lot back

858
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: from a year ago. Rock Obeckt has looked really solid.

859
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: I don't know, Iowa State is not in a big

860
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: media market, and they're historically not a blue blood program.

861
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: Right this is a very good team this year, and

862
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 3: I just want people to keep this on their radar.

863
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't think this is an Iowa State team that's

864
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: a fluke. I think they can go toe to toe

865
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: with a bunch of big teams around this sport right now.

866
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: I like where they're at of like where they're headed.

867
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: So just we'll talk more about them, but just don't

868
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: lose track of Iowa State.

869
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Texas Tech for a moment, please.

870
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: They were playing Arizona as we were doing our Saturday

871
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: night show, and they jumped out to a real it

872
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: was like eighteen to three or something like that. They

873
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: jumped out to a nice lead and Arizona crawled back,

874
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: but then Tech was able to pull it out in

875
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: the end did a relatively nice I mean, they didn't

876
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: really corral Temac, but no I fa fida made mistakes.

877
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: The running game for Arizona got going, but ultimately did

878
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 2: not kill Texas Tech. I mean, I think the best

879
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: of this game was happening on the ground. Texas Tech

880
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: has quietly after that weird shootout against Ablene Christian.

881
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Five and one. They're five and one right now.

882
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm still not a huge Baron Morton guy. I'm a

883
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: TAJ Brooks guy.

884
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: We're all TOAJ Brooks guys.

885
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 2: I'm willing to believe in Texas Tech being a grower,

886
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: not necessarily a shower in this moment in the Big twelve,

887
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: let me ask you this.

888
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, text over under was seven and a half. Okay,

889
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: pull up their schedule, Okay, I'll give you time to

890
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: give you time to pull up their schedule.

891
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: It's up. I still think getting to eight is.

892
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: A struggle with this defense, but they needed this win

893
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: if they were gonna make it too eight and hit

894
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: that over.

895
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: They needed this one over Arizona. I agree, Can they

896
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: get to eight? Read the schedule off? What do you think?

897
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 2: Uh, Baylor at home is winnable, at TCU is winnable. Yep,

898
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: those are set. That's seven. That's totally has a decent

899
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: shot to me right in the next two weeks. What

900
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: about the rest of them? At Iowa State is going

901
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: to be extremely tough. Colorado's tough, But you tell me

902
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: they can win that game forty five forty two, it's

903
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: going to be a shootout.

904
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's absolutely going to be a shootout.

905
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, in Iowa State doesn't have, you know,

906
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: a sandwich situation or anything like that with tech, so

907
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: there's nothing crazy there. At Oklahoma State, I'm not going

908
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 2: to say it's easy. I'm going to say it appears

909
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: to be easier than it did in early September.

910
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Agreed. I would agree with that.

911
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, West Virginia is going to be difficult, but it's

912
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: at home. Yep, I'm gonna say this is a challenging

913
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: back half. Maybe outside of TCU, and we'll see. I'm Baylor.

914
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: Baylor still might have the defense to make things challenging.

915
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: I if pressed, I'm going to say, yes, they can

916
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: win eight games.

917
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: It's there. I mean, it's you could definitely squint and

918
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: fy three more wins. Yeah, I just don't. I think

919
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: there's two that look more obvious than the rest. And

920
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: then they need to steal one of those other four

921
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: that you mentioned.

922
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: But man, what is going on with TCU, by the way,

923
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 2: giving away the UCF game, getting obliterated by SMU drop

924
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 2: what sixty seventy points in that game? Houston looking dead

925
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 2: to rights makes quarterback change runs all over them. Yeah, well,

926
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: at least that huge place. I don't know, man, I

927
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: don't know what's got Sunny Dykes is among There was

928
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: a list of head coaches and maybe you can pull

929
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: up this tweet, this, zeit this whatever. I think Lincoln

930
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: Riley is five and seven in his last twelve. Sonny

931
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: Dikes is five and seven in his last twelve. Currently,

932
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 2: I think Lincoln Riley has we can touch on USC

933
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: Minnesota a little if you want to. I think Lincoln

934
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: Riley is currently he was like twenty two and ten

935
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: in his last thirty two or something like that, and

936
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: through this many games, Clay Helton was twenty three and nine.

937
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: There are some like coaching conversations to be had, maybe

938
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: not yet, maybe as we get into like Halloween ish,

939
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: like I'm curious to see how this team performs in

940
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 2: November and what this conversation is like.

941
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: Man, I do think the pressure to get into the

942
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: playoff is going to make some programs do weird things.

943
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: I agree, And.

944
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: The Lincoln Riley thing it again, has some notes of

945
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: the pressure getting to them. I don't know if you

946
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: saw the postgame thing with somebody asking a player a

947
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: question and him snapping in and saying, that's not a

948
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 3: good question something that to that extent, I'm not probably

949
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: describing it accurately, but well.

950
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: He said there was also something he said, Lincoln Riley's like,

951
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: we're five points away from being undefeated. You're just like,

952
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: that's it's it's it's just little stuff like that that

953
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: makes you feel kind of like we saw last year

954
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: with Ryan Day right with his Holtz moment. It's just

955
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: these little breaks in character that sometimes indicate that somebody's.

956
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Feeling the heat and that's real. Ride.

957
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're Lincoln Riley, I mean I get it.

958
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: He came in with really high expectations and not necessarily

959
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 3: doing better than Clay Hilton at this point.

960
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: Sonny Sonny Dike's five and seven, Hugh Freeze five and seven,

961
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: Billy Napier five and seven, Sam Pittman five and seven,

962
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley five and seven in their last twelve.

963
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: Crazy, what else do you got here from this past week?

964
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: You want to rattle off any other lingering thoughts? I

965
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: kind of sucked up all the oxygen in the room.

966
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: But what do you got?

967
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: I just I rewatched in more detail detail, he said,

968
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: the USC Minnesota game, and it was like the winning

969
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: is a skill thing. Forget the call. At the end, Minnesota,

970
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: without an explosive offense, did get some explosive plays from

971
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: Darius Taylor, who remains a terrifically underrated running back.

972
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: Hidden gem, a hidden jem, total hidden gem. I think

973
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: they've got basically nothing through the air.

974
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: To me, like, I just don't see that as being

975
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: something that they're going to be able to lean on

976
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: in any sort of positive regard. They didn't commit the turnovers. No,

977
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: they didn't commit the penalties. You look at USC in

978
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: the second half with opportunities, and even forget like the

979
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: game end it was a game ending pick right for

980
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: USC throwing into the end zone. I think memory serves

981
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: forget that play. That was a desperation play. That Minnesota

982
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: made field goals, that they didn't turn them all over,

983
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: that they got off the field. They weren't great. I

984
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: don't think they ran as well as USC did, but

985
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, just like USC took so much off

986
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: the table for themselves and Minnesota sort of stayed the

987
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: course that like, what is this USC team right now

988
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: going into the back half of their schedule.

989
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: Well, and going into a week where they've got Penn

990
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: State coming to town.

991
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: They've got Penn State, then they travel across the country

992
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: to Maryland. Who I'm not a big Maryland guy in

993
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: this moment, but I'm a big betting against teams who

994
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 2: are shifting three time zones or whatever. No, I don't

995
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: know what the Lincoln Riley conversation is. But on the

996
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: plus side, everybody in the offseason said you gotta do

997
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: something about this defense.

998
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: Defense.

999
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: Really outside of the UCLA guys in the secondary against

1000
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: Michigan tackling at the end of that game. I'm not

1001
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: gonna put that on USC. That's on UCLA. USC has

1002
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: losable games to Rutgers losible. I'm not saying they're gonna lose. Sure,

1003
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: the Rutger's totally decent. At Washington's going to be difficult,

1004
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: Nebraska's going to be I'm not sold on the Nebraska

1005
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: offense in this moment, but that's a tough defense to

1006
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: play against, and they can turn Miller Moss over at

1007
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: UCLA shouldn't be an issue, and they host Notre Dame.

1008
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: So right now they're three and two. Wow, eight and

1009
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: four is on the table after that start. I just

1010
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: don't know how long this is acceptable in LA. I

1011
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 2: don't know, Okay, for that amount of money, you're paying

1012
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: ten million dollars to go eight and four, it's a lot,

1013
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: but you're getting.

1014
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: So much money from the Big ten dance, So it

1015
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: also sort of comes out in the wash, right, of course,

1016
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: what else you got anything else?

1017
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so is there anybody else that's speaking

1018
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 2: your interest?

1019
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: The only other thing I wanted to mention in the

1020
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: Texas Tech Front is that I was real big about

1021
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 3: talking about how good they were in third downs. Then

1022
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: they went two and eleven, right Arizona. Yeah no, otherwise,

1023
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: why don't we get to any leftover dood alerts?

1024
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: Do you have those? They're ready?

1025
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: I will momentarily. Let's get the doodle alerts. We apologize

1026
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: we had so.

1027
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: Many people who sent them in and we just didn't

1028
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: have a chance to get to it. I've got him.

1029
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: We give out dood alerts to the performances that moved

1030
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: the needle for us.

1031
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: It's not always the headliners.

1032
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 3: We have people all across over baller who descended names

1033
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: every Saturday Night.

1034
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: Who do we've got him? Who do we got?

1035
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: I got Ricky White blocked a punt caught one hundred

1036
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: and thirty five yards worth of football's Laquinn Allen. We

1037
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 2: mentioned on the show on Saturday Night, Diego Pavia. Of

1038
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: course you have down here the entire Tulane running back room.

1039
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: Jade Nixon from Western Michigan had a great night day night.

1040
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: I think it was day is afternoon game Ashton genty,

1041
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: of course, I think we just retire him at this point.

1042
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: Braylan Russell from Arkansas really spelled that end of game

1043
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: effort from the Hogs. Jordan James for Oregon ran super top.

1044
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the play where he

1045
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: sort of launched himself like a missile. I saw to

1046
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: the sternum of a Michigan State possibly a safety or

1047
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: a linebacker. He's just he's been running quite well. And

1048
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: Hassan Wilson for Charlotte. We mentioned Charlotte taking a nice

1049
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: step forward with a very comfortable and impressive win over

1050
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: I believe ECU on Saturday.

1051
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, scored fifty four points against an ECU defense that

1052
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 3: we thought.

1053
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: Was pretty good. Yeah, so on him.

1054
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 2: Quite impressive. A lot of dudes, all right.

1055
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: One of the things that we do on this Tuesday

1056
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: show is we do Averballer segment rver ballerhood votes on

1057
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: this segment out of verballers dot com. If you're a

1058
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: premium for Baller along with your vote in the Verballer

1059
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 3: Top twelve poll, I'm saying for baller a lot here.

1060
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 3: I'm trying to throttle that back just a little bit.

1061
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: But of course, in terms of what you get for

1062
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: your money there, not only do you get to vote

1063
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 3: in the Verballer Top twelve, you also get to help

1064
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: craft a segment this week, Thomas wants us just very quickly.

1065
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: He says, after having a few days to digest, maybe

1066
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 3: just simply rank the top five upsets from this past

1067
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 3: week from least surprising to most surprising based on your

1068
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: own personal feelings. I will take this a step further. Okay,

1069
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: all of them on some level were surprising. But I

1070
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: think how we need to think about this question is

1071
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: not in terms of which one surprised us the most.

1072
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: I think we need to think of it in terms

1073
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 3: of which new questions are now out there in the

1074
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: college football ether that we're not there a week ago. Yeah,

1075
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: Alabama is a good example, right, So Alabama losing to Vandy.

1076
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: We can take those.

1077
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: Top five upsets, the five that occurred within the top

1078
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: eleven if you want to, and just kind of keep

1079
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 3: it with their Alabama losing Vandy has to be the

1080
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: most surprising. Agreed, Yes, which questions are out there in

1081
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: college football now about Alabama that we're not there before

1082
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: they lost to Vandy? And how do you think that's

1083
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: going to shade your opinion of the tide moving forward?

1084
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 2: It's I mean, look, if you're just taking this specific game,

1085
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: the question then becomes can Kaylen de borr have this

1086
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: Alabama program locked in even when the opponent isn't a

1087
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: headline opponent. If you're going to come off that Georgia win.

1088
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 2: Is Kaylen de Boor the coach to keep his team

1089
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: mentally correct to not lapse against a clearly inferior opponent

1090
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: from a talent perspective. Now, I think Vandy's totally decent,

1091
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: but they're not on the same wavelength as Alabama in

1092
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: terms of what they're sealing is. So that question is

1093
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: Kaylen de Boor's ability in a frying pan that is

1094
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: the sec and what will be Alabama's schedules moving forward?

1095
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: Sure he can get them up for Texas, or get

1096
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: him up for Ole miss or get him up for Georgia.

1097
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: Is he able to get him up for South Carolina?

1098
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: Is he able to get him up for Vandy, able

1099
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: to get him up for Kentucky, able to get him

1100
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: up for Arkansas?

1101
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: Whoever?

1102
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: That is not necessarily like the prime time game opponent.

1103
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm just curious to know what's going on.

1104
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: It's in six quarters now of sort of questionable play.

1105
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: After that really hot start against Georgia, last six quarters

1106
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: has up been great for Alabama? So far, and so

1107
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm just curious to see how long it's going to

1108
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: take for them to snap out of this whatever it's been.

1109
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: I mean, they've still been fine. They're still performing, I think,

1110
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: at a pretty high level offensively. But you know, Vandy

1111
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 3: Diego Pavia moving the football in the way that they

1112
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 3: did scoring forty points against Alabama. If you would have

1113
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: told me that Vanderbilt was going to beat Bama, I

1114
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: would not have predicted them to score forty points and

1115
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 3: do it. I would have predicted a lot of turnovers

1116
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: for Alabama. You know, there were obviously some key turnovers here,

1117
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: but I would have predicted a lot more and probably

1118
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: a lower scoring game. The fact they scored that much

1119
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 3: on Alabama, I think is kind of the bigger question

1120
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: for me. It's not just a question of motivation and

1121
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 3: you know what we've seen over the last couple of

1122
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: quarters here, it's how are they able to do that?

1123
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: And what does that mean when they go up against

1124
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: better offenses? Because we saw Georgia score a lot on

1125
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: him too. This is an Alabama team to still get

1126
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: Tennessee on the schedule, LSU is on the schedule. They

1127
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: can score Missouri. I don't know what we think of

1128
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: missoo at this point, we can talk about them in

1129
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: a little bit. But just the defensive question for me

1130
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: with Alabama, I think has to be first and foremost.

1131
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right.

1132
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: And look, it was sort of a rebuilt secondary, a

1133
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 2: lot of young dudes playing in that secondary. Obviously emotions

1134
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: were running high. It was a Malachai Moore who picked

1135
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: up the penalty lay through his mouthpiece, kicked the ball.

1136
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: We're just like can Kaalin de Borr And he's not

1137
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: responsible for every single player's temperament every single week. But

1138
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 2: can he have this team in a cohesive place to

1139
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: replicate the greatest coach who has ever done it? Is

1140
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: a lot, aren't. Look it's not his players, these aren't.

1141
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: This isn't the roster he built. He deserves it's a

1142
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: good amount of time to do so. But he still

1143
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 2: inherited a ton. And so I think the question remains

1144
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: is are Alabama's mental problems problems is probably too difficult

1145
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: a word, but the mental laps against Mandy is that fixable?

1146
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: Mid year?

1147
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 3: Which game was which upset was the least surprising to you?

1148
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh, Michigan.

1149
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: So Michigan makes the move to Jack Tunnel, so they're

1150
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: onto their third I mean, he might not necessarily be

1151
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: third string because he was injured during the fall camp

1152
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: quarterback competition, but they've moved on to their third quarterback.

1153
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: They haven't been able to pass the ball this year

1154
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: for a number of reasons, and going on the road

1155
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: to take on Washington that had a motivated crowd and

1156
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 2: an experienced effective coach in Jedfish, Michigan losing after needing

1157
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: a sort of miracle run against USC and pulling out

1158
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: a tight one against Minnesota not surprising to me.

1159
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see again if we're thinking of this

1160
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 3: in terms of questions, what the Michigan offense looks like,

1161
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: if it is Jack Tuttle the rest of the way,

1162
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 3: I think it should be Jack Tuttle the rest of

1163
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 3: the way. And so much of our conversation the early

1164
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: part of the year has been what is the Michigan offense?

1165
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: We don't right? What is this?

1166
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: Can they throw the ball? Can they not throw the ball?

1167
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: They even going to try to throw the ball? I

1168
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 3: think Jack Tuttle probably gives them a chance of getting

1169
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 3: to the high water mark whatever that looks like.

1170
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: I just don't know. What that looks like.

1171
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I'd like to see him

1172
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: out there on a more regular capacity because I do

1173
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: think he's probably the more able of the three passers

1174
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: that they've got in that quarterback room right now.

1175
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: So Michigan moving forward, their final six games of the

1176
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: year has exclusively decent defenses at a minimum.

1177
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1178
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: On the schedule, Oh yeah, and it's Illinois, Michigan State, Oregon, Indiana,

1179
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: Northwestern Ohio State. A lot of those games are winnable.

1180
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: Michigan can beat Northwestern Indiana, Michigan State, Illinois. They can

1181
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: win those games with good defense, timely running, smart passing

1182
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: that isn't necessarily downfield. It's not necessarily electric, but just

1183
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: a smart game plan.

1184
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

1185
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: If there's scoring thirty in all of those games, well

1186
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: that's it, that's it. How much do you have to

1187
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 3: score to win those games?

1188
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: Right? And yeah, I got some questions continue.

1189
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: I think that the next least surprising quote unquote upsets

1190
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: got to be the Miszoo game because Miszoo was actually

1191
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 3: the underdog. Miszoo was an underdog on were they on

1192
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: the road, two and a half point dog at kickoff.

1193
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: This was an upset in terms of them being ranked

1194
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: significantly higher than texts.

1195
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: The magnitude too, Yeah, the magnitude.

1196
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: So to say that I'm surprised that they lost this game,

1197
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised they lost this game. I'm surprised the

1198
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 3: manner in which they lost this game, right, And the

1199
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: question for me with Miszoo now moving forward is really

1200
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: the same one that I had coming into this game.

1201
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: It is we look back. Okay, they were close against Fandy,

1202
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: won that game. They were close against Boston College, won

1203
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: that game. Winning is a skill. We set it off

1204
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: and on the show when to win doesn't always matter

1205
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: how much you win by. But to lose in this capacity,

1206
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: to lose as badly as they lost, seem hapless, to

1207
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: seem like they were falling apart on the sidelines, to

1208
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: be this defunct along both lines, I think there needs

1209
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: to be a question about if we're asking does Georgia

1210
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: have another gear, does Mazoo have it within them to

1211
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: kind of pick up the pieces right and get back

1212
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 3: on the street and narrow This is still a team

1213
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: that's got a lot in front of them. I mean,

1214
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: you look at the schedule. They go to Alabama in

1215
00:59:55,080 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. Otherwise, it's pretty wide open in

1216
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 3: terms of SEC talent. On that schedule. They've got UMass

1217
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: On an SEC team, They've got Auburn, They've got Oklahoma,

1218
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: South Carolina, Mississippi State in Arkansas. These are very winnable games,

1219
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 3: but they're only winnable if they can get their act again.

1220
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they're winnable by whom.

1221
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: Though this year's Missouri team recip State is relative to

1222
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: other schedules.

1223
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: That we have seen in the SEC, this is about

1224
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 3: the easiest that you're gonna find the right.

1225
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: I agree, and so I would say it's winnable.

1226
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 3: If you are truly a top fifteen caliber team, you

1227
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: should be able to win those games.

1228
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 2: I think so too. They just haven't shown it this year.

1229
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: What their best win is Vandy, which now in retrospect

1230
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: is a more impressive win. But yeah, I think on

1231
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: the flip side of what you're saying that South Carolina

1232
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: can now view.

1233
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Miszoo as a lot more winnable.

1234
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: Oh on that teams like that are now looking at

1235
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: Missoo in the same way we were like, oh well,

1236
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: maybe our schedule just.

1237
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Got a little bitty hunters. Miszoo is not locked in.

1238
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 3: I think the next least surprising most surprising is probably

1239
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 3: the Minnesota USC game, and we don't need to belabor

1240
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: the point on that one. I think we already mentioned

1241
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 3: some of the questions we have about UC. This is

1242
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: not a USC dunk contest here on the show, but

1243
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 3: suffice to say, going on the road and losing that game,

1244
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 3: we will get answers to some USC questions.

1245
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: This week when penn S comes to town.

1246
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so maybe we can save some of those

1247
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 3: questions for that point in time. That then brings us

1248
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: to the last game that we have not talked about

1249
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: in terms of surprisingly surprising. I think number two on

1250
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: this list is probably Tennessee losing to Arkansas.

1251
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty surprised by it.

1252
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: To be clear, what surprised you the most.

1253
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 2: I thought Tennessee going into the game had too many

1254
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: ways to win. Like I think they they probably still

1255
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: do have a number of edges that I think should

1256
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: win this game eight out of ten times or something

1257
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: like that that. I think their pop downfield on offense

1258
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: is superior. I think their ability to pass the rush

1259
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: past the rusher or past the rusher rush the passer

1260
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: there we go is superior. I think their star power

1261
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: is superior. I think the in game ability of their

1262
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: head coach is superior. I think they weren't able to

1263
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: make adjustments against Texas A and M literally the week before,

1264
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: and Tennessee, while not a finished product and starting a

1265
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: first time guy at quarterback, has run the ball relatively

1266
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: well this year, if not extremely well at times. I

1267
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: just thought they were further along than Arkansas, and I

1268
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: didn't take into account that it's just difficult to win

1269
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: in tough places in the SEC, as it is in

1270
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: any conference. But there seemed to be a frenzy in Fayetteville,

1271
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: and there is a wild card nature to Arkansas that

1272
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: you don't really know what you're getting drive to drive,

1273
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: but the best of Arkansas is still pretty dangerous, the

1274
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: best of Tailing Green still pretty dangerous. And I just

1275
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: going into the game felt like Tennessee was further along.

1276
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: I felt that they were further along.

1277
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: And the I think lingering question for me coming out

1278
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: of it is one that I thought we had answered

1279
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 3: going in, yeah, which was the Nico factor, And it

1280
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 3: really struck me. It still is with me that I

1281
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: went back and I watched that game again this morning

1282
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: Nico was rattled in that game.

1283
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: Redshirt freshman.

1284
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and right, most redshirt freshmen in that hostile, road

1285
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 3: sec environment at night would be a bit rattled. We

1286
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: kind of assumed that he was a cut above that

1287
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: because we saw what he did against Saint Cy State.

1288
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: We saw generally.

1289
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 3: Speaking, a pretty polished performance against Oklahoma, even though the

1290
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 3: offense was definitely held in checked to some extent. This

1291
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: is the first time that I came out of a

1292
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: game saying, oh, you can rattle this guy. And it's

1293
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: a question that I bring up here because they've got

1294
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 3: a rivalry game against Florida this weekend. Now I don't

1295
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: think too highly of the Florida defense, but I said,

1296
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 3: they're converting pressures to sacks.

1297
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: Okay, can they rattle them?

1298
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 3: Maybe got a game against Alabama a couple of weeks.

1299
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one that's going to have a lot of

1300
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: pressure attached to it.

1301
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: Kentucky. Kentucky is going to find a way to make

1302
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: it uncomfortable. We have already seen that this year. They're

1303
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 3: on the road at Georgia. That goes without saying. They

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Speaker 3: close out the year on the road against Vandy, which

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Speaker 3: say no more. That's five games Dan, five games where

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Speaker 3: if you're wondering, okay, to what extinct can we rattle

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Speaker 3: this young quarterback five games right there where it's not

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Speaker 3: too hard to conjure up away that they could bring

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Speaker 3: up pressure and make them feel a little bit anxious

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, is he is the victim of people like

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Speaker 2: us seeing other second year dudes, sophomore's red short freshman

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Speaker 2: thrive and he at his best looks incredible.

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Speaker 1: But he is learning.

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Speaker 2: He is learning, and so we I think I came

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Speaker 2: into the season thinking like, oh, it's so great that

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Speaker 2: he wasn't thrust in as a true freshman. He got

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Speaker 2: to sit and sort of get those mental reps as

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Speaker 2: you know, and the practice reps whatever as the number

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Speaker 2: two guy. But you know, it has the feel of

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Speaker 2: you know, you go to rec league basketball courts and

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Speaker 2: there's an old guy and he's just bodying the younger

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Speaker 2: players on the low block. He's like, it still works.

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Speaker 2: You can still rattle guys. You can still you know,

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Speaker 2: going through old school stuff get those younger players out

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Speaker 2: of their game. And so I think he's gonna be really,

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Speaker 2: really good. I am holding onto all of my Nico stock.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, especially like if he's not connecting on those

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Speaker 2: huge passes. You know, if whoever scroll Wide or Chris

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Speaker 2: Brasel or Dante Thorton is not open downfield and generating

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Speaker 2: those huge plays, and Tennessee has to not necessarily methodically

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Speaker 2: but come up with a varied offense to score points,

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Speaker 2: especially on the road.

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Speaker 1: It's worrisome.

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Speaker 3: All right, here's what the rest of the week looks like.

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Speaker 3: By the way play you are trying to plan out

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Speaker 3: your schedule from a soliverbal standpoint, We've got our preview

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Speaker 3: episode drops on Thursday. We've got our Big ten Breakfast episode.

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01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: They're getting weirder each week. In case you're interested, we.

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Speaker 1: Pacet a past.

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Speaker 3: We slash post all the audio out to our patriot

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Speaker 3: Averbowlers dot com that goes live on YouTube channel nine

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Speaker 3: am every Friday. And then of course we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: the week seven live recap midnight Eastern on Saturday night

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01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 3: out on the YouTube channel that will drop to the

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Speaker 3: podcast feed right in early on Sunday morning. Keep sharing

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Speaker 3: our episodes in a creative capacity.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I've got a coupon that I'm going to send out

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Speaker 3: here to somebody as soon as we get off the

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Speaker 3: line today. We appreciate everybody sharing doing their part to

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Speaker 3: help spread the verbal Tell your friends and family and

1353
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 3: anybody you know who likes college football. There are four

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Speaker 3: games that I just wanted to mention here real quick

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01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: that are taking place earlier in the week.

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Speaker 1: Early Bird Special.

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Speaker 3: The game is, I believe, seven pm on Friday, it's

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Speaker 3: Memphis minus six at USF. USF plays no pass defense.

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01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: Just bear that in mind. Okay, yep, bear that in mine.

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01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: Memphis minus six not a bad play. We've got Northwestern

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Speaker 3: at Maryland eight pm on Fox on Friday night. Maryland

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Speaker 3: favored by ten. UNLV plays Utah State later on in

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Speaker 3: the evening on CBS Sports Network.

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Speaker 1: What's that line?

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Speaker 3: I need to pull it up here in TA State

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01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 3: is bad bad? Continue, Utah State's bad bad. And then

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Speaker 3: ten thirty on ESPN, it's Utah minus three and a

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Speaker 3: half on the road at ASU.

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Speaker 1: That's a low line.

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Speaker 2: Dan, That's a game I would normally be super interested

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Speaker 2: in watching if it weren't starting when it's starting, because

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Speaker 2: I'm at I'll be watching that very early Saturday morning.

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Speaker 3: That game, by the way, between Utah State and UNLV.

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Speaker 3: UNLV favored by eighteen and a half points.

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Speaker 1: I like that, Lee. My only lead in those games

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Speaker 1: would probably be Memphis.

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Speaker 3: If I'm being honest, I would go you and LV and.

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Speaker 2: I guess we're seeing who's playing quarterback for Utah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Some of the biggest games that you have to look

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Speaker 3: forward to this week, many of which you'll be picking

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: on your run the Board slate this week if you

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01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 3: go on out to play rundboard dot com. We've got

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 3: South Carolina at Alabama. We've got the Red River Game,

1385
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: Texas versus Oklahoma, Penn State at USC, Florida at Tennessee,

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01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,959
Speaker 3: Ohio State at your Oregon Ducks, All Miss at LSU,

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01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: Iowa State at West Virginia, Kansas State at Colorado, in

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: addition to Washington Iowa cal pitt Arizona byu Wazoo Fresno,

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Speaker 3: and Vandi at Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Just to keep things interesting.

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Speaker 3: Here is what is of note of all of those

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Speaker 3: games and the many more. I did not discuss a

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01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 3: lot of low point spreads this week.

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Speaker 1: Ooh good. A lot of single digit point spreads should

1395
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Speaker 1: be a good week.

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Speaker 3: Then hopefully generally that equates to a really good week

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01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 3: at college football games. A lot of low point spreads,

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Speaker 3: I hope. So even of the ones that I just

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Speaker 3: rattled off, there are only three of those. Four of

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: those we're double digits two scores or more. But most

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 3: of these figure to be pretty close games.

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Speaker 1: So bear that in mind.

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Speaker 3: Helpe you stop back on Sunday to listen to the audio,

1404
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 3: or you're very interested Saturday night to check out our livestream.

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01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were going to say.

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01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: The really interesting thing was Calm Pitt have worn the

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 2: same uniforms a number of times. They do have similar shades.

1408
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: I know it's difficult with you in colors and shades.

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01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes Calm Pitt have more and strikingly similar blue and

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 2: yellow looks over the years.

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Speaker 1: That's all our guys. Shay cut together an extra version

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Speaker 1: of the reverbs because we had so many calls.

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01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 3: Look, we we do our best to include as many

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01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: calls as we can, but because the timing of the

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 3: games works out such that we're still getting calls. Literally

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01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 3: my phone is buzzing as we're recording that recap episode,

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 3: we can't fit them all in. So Shae graciously volunteered

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: as time. Here is a shorter, but yet extra version

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 3: of the week six reverbs.

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Speaker 1: Have a listen Dan time. This is Noah in Minnesota,

1421
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 1: and Minneapolis is working tonight. We pulled off the biggest

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01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: upset of the day.

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 2: Nothing I could possibly outshine us.

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: Right, good evening.

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01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 3: This is dirty Mike from the City at Bath blhema, here's.

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01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: A spring from five Fork, South Carolina has Dan in

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01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:25,440
Speaker 2: San Francisco.

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01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: Can you say bros? Before Troje Roosevelt.

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 3: Look, if Alabama wants to beat Vandy, they're just gonna

1430
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 3: have to schedule three or four by weeks in a

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01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: row before they play them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Joe again, compey, I am watching the Tennessee Oh

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01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: my gosh, oh goodness, I'm so discombobulated. This game is

1434
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: so crazy. We're guaranteed to lose.

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: Just make it happy.

1436
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: To make this sand Who among us has not pretended

1437
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 1: to whack somebody in the middle of the field after

1438
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: you second? I do it three or four times a week.

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01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: This is right from Oxford, and I have never.

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01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: In my life, me old my Peppin been more disappointed

1441
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 2: by what I witnessed in Colombia today.

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01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 1: Go rip hey, it's Joe and Favelle again, third time.

1443
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: So sorry. I was emotionally hedging.

1444
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 3: Let's go hogs wu pig sueye. Does the SEC stand

1445
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 3: for secretly embarrassingly crappy due to learn for asking gents

1446
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 3: please and thank you? Yay barely and you shall not

1447
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,480
Speaker 3: heed the false prophet tie.

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01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,440
Speaker 1: We weloped them.

1449
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 3: Maggie's okay.

1450
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: This is Joe and Favelle again. Just add this to

1451
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: the end of my last message. So Dan tis me

1452
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: twice went and four colls for long. I'm drunking again.

1453
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 3: I got Vandy Wenning, I got Arkansas wed In. I'm

1454
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: it was going on. Beautiful, good job, great job, shake,

1455
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: great job to all of our callers again eight five

1456
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: to five verbal three. You can text me. During the

1457
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: course of the week, we get the text messages. There

1458
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: have been a couple that it came in just as

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01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 3: we're recording this, But as we get into the week,

1460
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 3: into the throes of this thing, that's when the voicemail

1461
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 3: line opens up. Yeah, Dan, that does it for the

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 3: Tuesday episode, I have soliverbal at gmail dot com is

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 3: the email. If we missed anything you want to get

1464
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 3: it off your chest, We'd love to hear from you. You

1465
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Speaker 3: can also reach out on social media ord responding a

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Speaker 3: dms left and right. These days, people have things to

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01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: say about college football. We welcome any end all feedback

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Speaker 3: in response to what you heard on today's episode. Forballers

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Speaker 3: you play in the games and vote in the polls

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Speaker 3: and vote on segments, but you get all the episodes.

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Speaker 3: to speak. We'd appreciate you giving that a lookout at

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Speaker 3: verballers dot com.

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Speaker 1: At last, but not least, hit.

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Speaker 3: Follow, hit subscribe if you've already done that, encourage others

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Speaker 3: to do so as well. Definitely, Dan Rubinstein, take care

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01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: of that little cold you got, Okay.

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01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 2: Trying my best. Hi, trying my best. Might take a nice.

1482
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: Little bath, layer a little Vicks vapor run. I definitely

1483
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Speaker 1: won't continue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for.

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Speaker 1: Myself, Tie Hilding the brand.

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01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 3: Thanks again for downloading, listening, supporting.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you all on Thursday. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: Stay solid, peace,