WEBVTT - Gary Chambers Jr On Backwards American Policies, Taking Back Legislative Power, US Senate Run + More 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:04.720 Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Morning. 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:09.040 Everybody's DJ Envy Angel Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We are 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.720 the Breakfast Club because our special guests joining us today, 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.440 Brother Gary Chambers Junior, Welcome back, Brother, Thank you, thank you. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.120 I appreciate y'all having me running for US Senate in Louisiana. Yes, sir, 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.680 I wanted to have you on, man, just because Jesus Christ, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:26.000 what the hell is happening? Man, It's why, it's why, 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.080 you know, I can't tell if it's twenty twenty two 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.120 or eighteen seventy three. Wow. The logic of the Supreme 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.360 Court today, I think is comparative to the Supreme Court 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:39.720 in the eighteen hundreds. How do we get Supreme Court 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.480 justices the US Senate? They voting to prove these people 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.600 and they send them there. And these folks have worked 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.159 for fifty years to get to this point. And I 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.760 think that a lot of us thought it was a 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.319 game that our rites could be stripped away. But this 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.960 is step one. And to every black or brown person 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.920 in America, if white men will take the rights of 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.959 their own women and daughters from them, what's about you? 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.640 That's right? Let's talk about that big picture of you, 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.040 because today it is ro versus way. But like you said, 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.000 this is just the beginning. So so what are your 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.520 thoughts on just the Supreme Court overall and what it 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.520 is they could potentially do. I think I'm gonna go 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.399 to the solution first. The solution is we have to 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.000 pack the court. Yea. There's a lot of folks who 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.400 are talking about not doing so, but that is the answer. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.840 The Supreme Court was not always the numbers that it is. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.600 Look in the history book and read the reality is 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:40.480 gay rights, voting rights, policing in America. There was just 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.560 a ruling on Miranda rights like the Supreme Court too, 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.559 there's a ruling about gun rights at the same time 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.120 that they are stripping away women's rights, they're expanding gun 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:54.040 rights while people are having a gun violence epidemic as 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.280 well as mass shootings in this country. And so I 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.960 think that we are headed backwards. Even the congresswoman making 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:05.240 the statement the other night thanking President Trump for protecting 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.760 white life right and then saying that it wasn't That 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.320 wasn't what she was saying. Yeah, she knew what she 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.720 was and everybody shared when they heard white life too. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.440 The mind thought and said what it was prepared to say. 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.079 Inside it came out. It just slipped out. And so 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.079 you know, you could walk it back all you want to, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.240 but this is the reality we're dealing with. And when 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.480 you talk about packing the courts, who has the authority 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.560 to do that? Because Joe Biden, they're saying, is reluctant 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.119 and does not want to the Supreme Court. I mean 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.360 the Senate and the President together. If the Senate decides 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.560 that they want to change legislation to expand the court, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.079 the President has to approve that um and if Joe 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:45.960 Biden doesn't want to do that, then he shouldn't be 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.359 the president. So what can people do? Because we talked 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.720 about they said, you know, everybody heard what happened over 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.400 the weekend. Everybody goes vote, vote, but for the last 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.520 couple of years, they say that we had record number 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.720 of minorities come out and vote. So what can people do? 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.200 So let me let me me quantify that. We vote 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.880 for the president, but when it comes to legislative seats, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.200 we sit on our tail. The senator that I'm running against, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.240 John Kennedy, and I sent these numbers to Charletmage an 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.440 other day. He was elected in twenty eighteen, Twenty six 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.320 percent of black voters in New Orleans showed up, thirty 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.560 six percent of black voters in Baton Rouge showed up, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.320 twenty six percent of black voters in shre Reports showed up. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.880 He won with five hundred and thirty six thousand votes, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.320 and they're nine hundred thousand registered black voters in the 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.360 state of Louisiana. If black folks alone had showed up, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.200 John Kennedy wouldn't be in the US Senate. That's another 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.480 number that we have that helps us to pass all 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.720 of these things. You can't just have fifty votes when 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.760 you got two US Senators who are voting against you 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:44.040 consistently in Kristen Cinema and Joe Manchin, and you need 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:48.160 to expand the Martins. The solution is Charles Booker in Kentucky. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.520 The solution is Mandela Barnes in Wisconsin. It's me in Louisiana, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.000 it is Big John in Pennsylvania. Right there are people 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.800 who are running right now who share the same values, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.360 have the same conviction, and they're not moderate Democrats. They 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.960 believe that when you get power, you do something with 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.000 the power that you're given. That's what's going on in 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.640 Louisiana with Roe versus Way, because I know now it's 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.680 a state by state decision. So we have one of 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.360 the worst laws in the country. As it relates to this. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.000 We only had three abortion clinics in the entire state, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.400 one one in Batteries, one in New Orleans, and one 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.400 in Shreveport. All three of them instantly closed because we 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:31.120 had a trigger law signed into law by a moderate Democrat. Okay, 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.640 in Louisiana, we don't have a single woman currently in 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:40.080 the state Senate that is pro choice, black or white. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.320 That's crazy, Okay. So when you when you process that, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:48.000 it is because the masses of us stay home and 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.800 let them a minority of us decide who represents the 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.200 majority of us. And so that's the problem in Louisiana. 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.080 So women in Louisiana have no reproductive rights at this point. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.080 And who does that affect the most when it comes 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.360 to women in Louisiana. Just to break that down, that 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.520 that affects black people, black women the most, it affects 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.880 brown women, it affects poor people across the board. Louisiana 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.479 is the fiftieth rank state in the nation. So we 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.559 have a huge poor population of black and white people. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.680 It will affect them the most because if you have 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.320 somebody who's in New Iberia Louisiana who gets pregnant and 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.920 doesn't want to have that baby, that person now has 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.000 to go to New Mexico or Illinois are the closest 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.240 places that they can go. If I can't afford three 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.799 fifty four hundred dollars for a procedure in my state, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.200 how do I afford eight hundred dollars plane ticket of 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.080 three hundred dollars hotel room? And there I have to do. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.159 And you're not gonna go by yourself. Somebody has to 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.400 come with you, so that person has to get a flight. Also, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.480 it becomes an impossible situation for women in our state 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:54.880 and to men, Okay, you should be concerned. Okay, there's 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.560 a lot of men who have unprotected sex in this country. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.560 They're gonna go after contraceptives. They've already said this. Clarence 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.320 Thomas has already said that he believes that they should 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.560 look at what we do as far as money on contraceptors, 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:07.680 and then not to mention people who don't have the 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.159 money to travel, they may try to find another means 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.760 of having an abortion that would be illegal and also unsafe. 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.679 I watched this documentary the James on HBO Max recently 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:24.240 about abortion procedures in Chicago before Rove Wade, and there 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.479 were terrible things that women went through. And I encourage 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.800 everybody to go watch it because there's a perspective that 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.400 we just don't know, especially as men, the emotional capacity 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.360 of how women were treated, women having to do sexual 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.280 favors in order to have a procedure. I'm a father 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.800 of a twelve year old daughter, all right. I want 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.920 my daughter to grow up to have the ability to 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.360 make whatever decisions in her life she chooses to make. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.680 That it would be the same if I had a son. Right, 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:56.280 America has not afforded that. And the reality is Black 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.719 people have only had their rights since the sixties, and 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.320 women have only have their rights in this country since 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.960 the seventies. So when we say that all of these 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.520 sexists and racist things are ages ago, No, that Rovie 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.440 Wade passed twelve years before I was born, right, right, 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.440 that's that's not a massive amount of time. My father 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.480 was born without all of his constitutional rights, right, that's 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.720 not that's not slavery. That's that's that impacts our lifetime. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.120 And I am the first generation in my family born 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.800 with all my rights while America tells us, oh, this 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.000 is the greatest country on earth since when exactly? That's why, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.200 that's that's the problem with God's like President Biden right, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.840 they would leave in the Institution of America so much. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.480 But he's a s great white male. It's always worked 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.640 for him since the founding, since the constitution. You know, 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.720 Frederick Douglas gave a speech about what is the fourth 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.040 did July to the slave? What is the fourth of 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.160 July to the neigh where we're going into enstance weekend? 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.800 Fourth of July weekend next weekend? What do we have 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.960 to celebrate about America today? Gas prices high as hell? 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:04.800 Bratt read milk your energy bill. You're taking away people's rights, 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.920 You're building an unjust government and then telling us to 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.880 be excited about it. Nah, I'm not with it. You know, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.080 you said something earlier about using power, and I asked 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.240 you this this weekend. But you know, we know elections 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.760 have consequences, but I want to know what consequences. Consequences 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:23.080 worse Republicans who get in office and abuse power, or 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.120 democrats we put in office who don't use that power 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.280 to protect us from that abuse. In my eyes, there's 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.760 no difference between the two. If you're not helping advance 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.120 the cause of people, the people that you represent, you're 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.960 no different than the devil that we're fighting. That's why 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.200 we have to be intentional about putting a demand on 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.280 people upfront and then making sure that there's the accountability measures. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.080 If you elect the president, but you don't elect the 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.679 House and the Senate that's gonna check that president, I 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.240 don't care if they end your party or out of 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.960 your party, you're never going to accomplish anything. I don't 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.160 believe in blind political loyalty. I just don't believe in it. 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.280 You give somebody a vote, and then you hold them 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.719 accountable after you give them that vote, and then if 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.400 you don't do what you say you're gonna do, we 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.200 don't reelect you. The other problem is we have too 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:11.439 many elected officials who have stayed too long. Their ideology 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.400 and their view of the world is different than that 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.600 of us, and we have to inherit their decisions right. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.400 Some of them are gonna be gone in ten fifteen years, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.520 and we'll be here for the next fifty years dealing 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.160 with decisions that they made today. And what I would 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.240 hope they would do is consider retiring. I'm not gonna 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.560 call out any of our favorite black or white older 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.559 politicians that have been there since the eighties or the nineties, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.000 but how long you gonna stay? And the second question 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.240 is how long we gonna vote on them? Yeah, you know, 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.480 at some point we have to be accountable to ourselves 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.120 that if I'm giving you numbers saying that in the 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.560 Senate race, twenty six percent of black voters in New 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.560 Orleans showed up, we gave him the election. We gave 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.800 it to him. Now, and let me say this, we 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.199 gave it to him in part because the state party 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.000 in Louisiana gave us a white Democrat that black voters 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:00.920 did not want to vote for all. So that's a 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.480 part of the conversation. Democrat, a moderate white Democrat that 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.400 black folks had no relationship with. There's a moderate white 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.800 Democrat that black folks have no relationship running against me? Right, 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.280 what will the party do? Because the country is on 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.319 the line at this point, we don't have time to 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.559 play these games. And see, that's what boses me too. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.520 It's like, Okay, if we know we have these moderate 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.360 white Democrats or these blue dog Democrats that they call them, 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.960 why not call them out, like why not say, look, look, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.280 we don't want y'all supporting him, We want y'all supporting 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.360 this person because this person is going to actually get 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.320 into the Senate, get into the House, and you know, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.760 vote to make change. Well, folks like myself do do 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.960 that consistently. We've run against them to try to put 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.600 them out of office. We have to we have to 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.280 have the resources. There are people challenging these people all 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.559 over the country. We're not raising the money that the 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.880 establishment Democrats are raising. We need to see the people 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.480 who are making all this noise right now about caring 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.439 about this issue, showing up for us and hosting fundraisers 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.679 in galvanizing voters, because the candidates that are out here 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.480 championing these causes cannot win without the resources. Charles Booker 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.080 will not be victorious in Kentucky if he doesn't get 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.439 every black influencer in the state of Kentucky to step 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.880 up and have his back in a meaningful way to 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:20.160 add concerts registered voters. Right to add clubs registered voters 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.240 because brothers and sisters. That's going to the club. When 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.360 you leave a club, if you're not thinking about the 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.000 consequences of your decisions that night, you no longer have 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.920 the right to get the procedures or a plan be 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.560 peel in certain states, has it been difficult for you 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:38.160 to get influential people in Louisiana to galvanize for you. No, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.280 because we work really hard at it. We are aggressive 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.079 at going after the influences in our state and were 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.199 grateful for their support. But I know that we could 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.120 have more, and we could have more people who you 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.920 don't have to understand it all to recognize that we're 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.400 in a bad place. And what you have the capacity 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.440 to do is raise money and influence people. And it's 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.000 that simple. What we need the people who have influence 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.360 to do is raise money and influence people so that 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.720 those of us who understand the policies and that you 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.640 have seen consistently go out there and do the work 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.800 going there and do it. Because a zebra does not 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.600 change his stripes. If you have somebody who as a 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.079 candidate was not out there fighting for your rights before, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.920 you never saw him at a protest, You never saw 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.440 him advocating for certain things. Why do you expect them 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.719 to do that when they become an elected official. They 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.440 also talk about expanding the gun laws. Break that down 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.120 for people that don't know well. So what the Supreme 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.880 Court did was basically say that states don't have the 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:35.960 capacity to our restrict whether or not somebody can conceal carry, 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.320 that people can have a right to bear arms wherever 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.480 they are in this country. That you can restrict certain 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.120 locations like churches and schools, and that that should be 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.400 looked at. But Clarence Thomas even suggested we have to 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.440 be careful when we look at what we're examining there. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.240 I posted a tweet the other day that I'm trying 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.560 to find out where's the trade option for Thomas because 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.880 I'm tired of him. You know, how do we get 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.079 rid of this guy? And we get rid of him 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.959 by making sure that the next time there's a vacancy 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:05.720 on the Supreme Court, that there's a democratic majority there 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:11.320 that passes somebody forward. That's going to be about justice, right, Um, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.480 it's going to happen. They won't live forever, but do 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.800 we have the mechanisms of power when theyre when it's 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:19.440 time to make their change. But even when we have 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.760 the mechanisms of fire, we don't use them. For example, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.520 you know, um RBG should have stepped down, she should 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.439 have retired, and they should have There's a lot of 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.319 people who love to talk about Ruth bade Againsberg, And 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.560 I don't even like giving her the RBG title because 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.839 you know that that that puts a lot of stink 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.320 on her name that I don't have revolution. She stayed 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.200 on the court for selfish reasons, in my opinion, and 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.040 nobody wants to say that did she do some great 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.760 things while she was on the court. Yeah, but the 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.720 broke clock can be right twice a day. That and 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.560 when when Mitch McConnell blocked you know, Obama's picking two 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.800 thousand and sixteen and saying it was too close to 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.400 the election, why didn't they push back? Why did this 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.280 allowed themselves? Now they did. They did push back when 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.520 Obama was obed up the right to a point of justice. Now, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.079 the deal is, Republicans show you what to do when 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.000 they get powers, that when they get power, they are 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.319 not playing by the rules. This whole notion that we 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.160 were not in the filibuster, if Republicans were there today 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.280 and they wanted to do something. They are going to 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.360 break the rule of the filibuster, and they're gonna pass 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.640 it because at the end of the day, it's a 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.560 stupid rule anyway, And the filibuster wasn't even always there. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.160 You know, these are things that we don't know in history, 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.640 and they don't teach us that these are rules that 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.280 were devised in order to make sure that they made 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.840 the process more difficult for people like you and I 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.000 to have rights. Listen, we know why Joe mans is 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.400 not going to vote to get rid of the filibuster, 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.600 because he's just Democratic name only. But why wouldn't you know, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.920 Joe Biden want to do things like expanding the court. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.280 Why isn't he calling for the filibusters? I think, and 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.760 this is in fairness to the president. He's an old 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.360 white man who went to the Senate in his thirties, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.800 right in the seventies, and spent his entire adulthood growing 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.680 up among these people who he refers too, and that's 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:04.280 his lived experience. We cannot rob him of his lived experience. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.920 What we have to decide is we don't want people 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.080 with that lived experience, or you know, he has a 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.040 right to believe what he believes. We have a right 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.040 to not vote for him. If you will not change 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.080 to the will of the people. It is our will 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.160 by our vote. And if we don't want, if we 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.200 don't want what we see, then he needs to be 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.520 challenged in twenty twenty four, he needs to be primary 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.280 when it comes to these January six hearings that we've 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.120 been watching, what can potentially happen to Donald Trump? Do 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.920 you think anything will happen at all? Do you think 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.360 he'll run for president again? I think Trump will possibly 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.080 run for president again. And I don't think that they're 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.880 gonna do Trump anything. Man. They already said it. What 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.720 does it to some degree America, White America is going 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.720 to say, how does it benefit us to arrest a 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.920 former president of this country? That is just going to 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.160 be their logic that there is no gain for us 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.880 in arresting him. For somebody who commits a crime that 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.240 should be arrested no matter what your job is. Yeah, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.640 but we know the rules ain't faying America. You never 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.880 have been. So what Jamie Raskin said yesterday, he said 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.040 that charges for Trump are others are not a principal interest. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.560 He said, we want the American people that know the truth, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.000 so a coup can never happen in this country again. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:17.680 I'm like, well, how is it not gonna happen again? 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.600 If you don't hold the people accountable cars be able 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.960 to run for president again, He's gonna run for president again. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.800 At minimum, it shouldn't even be allowed. I think that 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:31.640 we have to recognize that in the hierarchy of rich 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:36.040 billionaires and rich white folks in America that they're just 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.400 they played by different rules and if we want those 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.280 rules to change, our powers there so we just have 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.480 to you tolize, what do you tell somebody who voted 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.480 for Biden? They feel like Biden did absolutely positively nothing, 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.440 nothing that he agreed, nothing that he said he was 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.480 gonna do. Now, I don't think Biden's gonna run again. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.360 Maybe will, maybe wasn't, But then you have Donald Trump 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.360 running again. So what do you tell those people? Now? 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.520 I would tell them that even on his worst day, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.680 he's better than the other garbage that we had, and 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.000 that if you want better, that the generations before us 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.480 had to put in work to elect better leaders to 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.719 do this is the work. This this whole logic that 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.320 things are just going to magically change is bs. They 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.879 never have. We have to be committed to saying that 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.359 we want to see change happen and doing the work 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.439 we have to elect people on the local level, the 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.560 state level, and the federal level, and the legislative powers 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.200 is where we really have the most of a deficit, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.800 I believe, and if we pay attention. We always pay 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.240 attention to the executives, the mayor, the governor, the president. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.159 But the people who control the levels of power are 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.600 your congress people, your senators, your city council people, and 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.120 we just we stay out of those races acts. Ask 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:48.040 the next person who comes on your show, who is 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.200 their city council member, school board member, state rep, state senator, 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.800 Ask them do they know him. I can tell you 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.879 my school board members Darius Lands. I can tell you 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.720 that my House members Edmond Jordan. I can tell you 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.679 that my senator is bad. I can tell you that 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.959 my congress person is h Carter. I can tell you 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.320 every elected official from the from the lowest local level 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.080 all the way up to the highest. And if you 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.760 don't know that, that is a part of the problem. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:14.960 That's one of the reasons I wanted to have you. 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.440 You up here because you know, I look and I 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.679 see these established establishment Democrats. They never seem to support 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.720 the change agents, right, whether it's Nina Turner, whether it's yourself, 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.040 like when I when I even ask about you, like, oh, 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.399 they can't win. Well, why I can't win if you 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.399 don't help me? Exactly if if if I'm telling you 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.920 that that this man won with five hundred and thirty 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.960 six thousand votes, that there are nine hundred thousand registered 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:43.800 black voters in Louisiana, one point two million eligible black voters, 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.440 and thirty percent of white voters in our state consistently 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.600 vote for Democrats. And we have a Democrat elected as governor. 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.280 How come somebody black can't do it right because we 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.720 don't have ten million dollars. Because the Democrat that's elected 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.560 in my state statewide, the difference between him. There was 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.639 a sister named gwyn Collins green Up that ran for 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.960 Secretary of State in Louisiana. She got forty one percent 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.280 of the vote. She had nine thousand dollars in the bank. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.639 In the same year John bell Ed was won the 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.679 governor's race, he had ten million dollars. That's the difference. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.440 The money gives you the ability. These pens, these shirts, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:19.320 these mailers, these commercials, they're not free. And the consultants 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:20.760 in the staff that you see you have to pay 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.359 for the gas, you have to pay for the everything 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.000 that you see is a cost to you know. And 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.440 so for those of us who want to see it 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.800 happen this resource, is it not for me to get rich. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.159 Matter of fact, most of those who are running for 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:37.760 office really championing they're not winning financially. They are fighting 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.160 for something bigger than them to get to a point 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:41.920 to help all of us. And what we have to 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.800 recognize is if they're gonna make that sacrifice, what's the 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.719 sacrifice that we're gonna make. Did you get a lot 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.040 of backlash for you promo that was in support of 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.000 two A rates? I thought it was right on the money. 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.520 We didn't. We didn't get a lot of negative feedback. 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.879 We didn't get a lot of national exposure to it. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.040