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<v Speaker 1>I Am all In.

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<v Speaker 2>I Am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcasts one

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<v Speaker 1>different skews. Yay, We're back. We're bigger and better than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>joined by the Trepid Crew, Amy sugarmin Tar sued Susanne French,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Romo. Everybody is up, bright eyed and bushy tailed man.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't even tell they just got up. They are alert,

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<v Speaker 1>they are ready to go way too early. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down an episode today. And I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the zoom because I don't know what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>We'll tell you, but first this is early.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is my thrive time. Baby, I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 4>go around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, I'm feisty.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's in the middle of the night because Danielle,

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<v Speaker 5>what time do you go to bed?

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<v Speaker 4>I go to bed. I'm a I'm a grandma. I

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<v Speaker 4>go to bed by nine pm, but I am up

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<v Speaker 4>by five thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott, When do you go to bed? I?

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I go to bed at nine, nine thirty, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I go to bed at three maybe two.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you up so late? Because that is the time,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the schedule.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the time when people stop calling and emailing

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<v Speaker 5>all day so I actually get the work.

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<v Speaker 1>Done, right?

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<v Speaker 3>So what three, four, five, six seven? Has that been

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<v Speaker 3>asleep six hours? Susan? When do you go to bed?

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<v Speaker 6>I usually go to bed around ten thirty and then

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<v Speaker 6>get up about five thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my gosh, and your poor boye. Suzanne's back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm back from Nashville.

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<v Speaker 3>My word, what great?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>And what about Tupelo?

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<v Speaker 1>Tupolo was great. Tupolo was a fan convention. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the people are so nice, so welcoming.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott called me with a fan that was so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Old day.

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<v Speaker 3>Was so nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, and then I went to Nashville and

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<v Speaker 1>wrote songs with some of the top songwriters in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire industry, and it was incredible. Four days it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's so incredible, incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Warner Chapel hosted it. Throw us in the writer's rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in there with Lee Thomas Miller and Emily Fouvel,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily Landis and Caleb voth Uh, Carly's got Collins and

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<v Speaker 1>Dan pelerin. It was just amazing, amazing, And we wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, four songs that we'll see what happens with them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's great. And what time do you ye

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<v Speaker 3>do tar? What time do you go to bed? Go

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<v Speaker 3>to bed later a little later like me, not as la.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I'm midnight usually.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay, So here's.

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<v Speaker 5>What we just.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so why am I here? Why am I? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I? I get it? I get a message jump

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<v Speaker 1>on a zoom right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So we all talked about it.

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<v Speaker 5>So we decided what's up because we try to do

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<v Speaker 5>this like when we have you know, people come on

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<v Speaker 5>that listen, but they're so nice, right, they're they're so nice.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe there just can't be mean to us to our faces.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but they're always so nice. So we

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<v Speaker 5>decided we're just gonna do it and we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>read the comments.

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<v Speaker 1>From social right, what's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what we're doing and then talk about it. So

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<v Speaker 5>I know what the comments are. I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 5>else does. I think I know what because Jackie and

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<v Speaker 5>I worked on it together to pick so I've seen

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<v Speaker 5>some of them. I will admit that, but nobody else has.

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<v Speaker 5>So everybody's just gonna give their real, real reactions and

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<v Speaker 5>uh yeah, because we want Look, I'll start by saying

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<v Speaker 5>two things and then I'll shut up and not interrupt. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>we do read them, and we do care. We totally care.

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<v Speaker 5>We totally take it to heart. We read them all.

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<v Speaker 5>We sometimes are painful. So if you can imagine, sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>there's a thousand comments we read every week and some

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<v Speaker 5>are mean, so we just joke. Everybody's like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>a bot, and it's like, we know you're not a bot.

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<v Speaker 5>We know that we're just joking to cope, right, We're

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<v Speaker 5>joking to joking, So please know we do read them.

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<v Speaker 3>So okay, I think we just do it like we

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<v Speaker 3>do pop culture. Jackie.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you put them up on the screen and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll go take turns reading them.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, if you're listening, this could be ef and brutal.

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<v Speaker 7>I also have to say sometimes I scroll and there's

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<v Speaker 7>some long comments. Oh yeah, they're like in depth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, the most astute fans uh in

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<v Speaker 1>the world are Gilmore fans. They chapter and verse know

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<v Speaker 1>these episodes.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, my favorites one they comment to their comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah more oh yeah, and they do yeah three

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<v Speaker 1>or four times.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and sometimes there's like a whole conversation going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So, look, we wanted to do this. This is gonna suck.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you guys probably like listening to it, but

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<v Speaker 5>for us, there will be some painful parts.

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<v Speaker 1>But is it time? Is it time to face the

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<v Speaker 1>music it?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it just feels like we're in season seven and

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<v Speaker 5>we do want people to know, like, look, we actually

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<v Speaker 5>do care. I think that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 5>there's not everybody, but some people think we don't pay

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<v Speaker 5>attention to them, and we do, and we actually try

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<v Speaker 5>to take it to heart. But sometimes, like you know, well,

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<v Speaker 5>old habits die hard, like we're not perfect. Okay, So Danielle,

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<v Speaker 5>you start with.

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<v Speaker 4>That one, should I say who it's from?

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<v Speaker 5>No, let's protect the innocent and the guilty in case they,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, change their mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. So here's the first one. I think Laureli's panic

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<v Speaker 4>with the wedding was because of Anna saying she couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of April's life until they were married.

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<v Speaker 4>So to Lorelai, the wedding would solve all of those issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Luke saying no, in my opinion, was to her him

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<v Speaker 4>saying that she had to stay outside for longer, and

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<v Speaker 4>the lack of date was her not knowing how long

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<v Speaker 4>she'd be on the outside for. Then she does something

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<v Speaker 4>really self destructive and tells and she tells Luke because

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<v Speaker 4>she needs their relationship to be over to justify sleeping

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<v Speaker 4>with Christopher. I am team Laureli all the way, but

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<v Speaker 4>she is human and makes mistakes and she made a

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<v Speaker 4>big one here because she was hurting. Also, Amy referring

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<v Speaker 4>to April as a human child all the time feels

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<v Speaker 4>super weird to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, first of all, she did just refer to Laurel

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<v Speaker 3>as a.

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<v Speaker 5>Human but fair enough, fair enough, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 5>So what do you guys think of all the her thoughts?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I kind of get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody's entitled to their opinion and we're entitled

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<v Speaker 1>to ours as well, and that's what that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we do on this show. And that's why listen. When

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and I initially talked about how this would be shaped,

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<v Speaker 1>this this podcast would be shaped, I wanted something a

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<v Speaker 1>little different than what I was hearing on podcasts. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be looser. I wanted it to be

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<v Speaker 1>more debate. I wanted it to be back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit, you know, not not chaotic, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess chaotic a little bit and fun

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<v Speaker 1>and and and just like I want everybody to to

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<v Speaker 1>give their opinions, and that includes fans, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a whole range of responses, hot and cold. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's what I wanted. It's it's an open forum. It's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're free speech, baby, you know, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we we we let the opinions fly.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a common opinion that I did see that

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people think she did that and then

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<v Speaker 5>intentionally went over to Christopher's, like that she broke up

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<v Speaker 5>with you so that she wasn't quote cheating and.

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<v Speaker 3>Went over to Christopher's. I'm not one hundred percent sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I kind of interpreted that as she

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<v Speaker 1>felt so bad, and maybe maybe maybe there's an interpretation

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<v Speaker 1>where she just wanted to be honest with somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>she truly respects. Yeah, I don't know that she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want him to find out from somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>I disagree. I think I think she did the ultimatum

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<v Speaker 4>because it was her way of saying, is Luke ann

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<v Speaker 4>or not? And then she acknowledged he's not fully in right,

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<v Speaker 4>and so she's like, you know what, this is over,

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<v Speaker 4>and the one way to make it super super over

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<v Speaker 4>and not be able to recover from it is to

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<v Speaker 4>sleep with Christopher. So I do I do see with

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<v Speaker 4>this person, the person that wrote this out. I I

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<v Speaker 4>actually think it's pretty valid. Like I do understand her points,

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<v Speaker 4>and yeah, I mean I think the sleeping with Christopher,

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<v Speaker 4>I do think she did it intentionally. She knew that

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<v Speaker 4>that's the one thing that she can't recover from.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree you do, Susanne.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought she went over there like like one would like,

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta go to somebody that sort of loves me.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think she went over there intending to sleep

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<v Speaker 5>with them, because she was so barfed by that she

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<v Speaker 5>did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she was.

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<v Speaker 6>She had just gone over the edge, like she wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>herself anymore. She was completely freaking out. I think it

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<v Speaker 6>was multiple things. I think that she, you know, Luke

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<v Speaker 6>let her walk away, and so to her, Luke is

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<v Speaker 6>all out now, and so she just I think I

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<v Speaker 6>said this in a previous episode, she just had to

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<v Speaker 6>put that final nail in the coffin. And maybe if

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<v Speaker 6>she had been thinking more clearly and been a little

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<v Speaker 6>more rational, she would have thought, Okay, probably going to

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<v Speaker 6>Christopher is not the right thing to do. But I

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<v Speaker 6>think she just like she just needed to make it

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<v Speaker 6>final that I don't think she was cheating on Luke.

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<v Speaker 6>I think Luke might have different opinion of that, But

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think that she.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinks she was cheating.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't think she was cheating because in her

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<v Speaker 6>mind it was already long over, Like Luke is not

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<v Speaker 6>fighting for her, Luke let her go.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you know, but I think it's cheating per se.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I can see how even think that, though too.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a huge fan of like you I engaged,

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<v Speaker 5>does somebody break up and you go sleep with somebody

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<v Speaker 5>that minute, like literally that minute.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it was a terrible decision, don't get

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<v Speaker 6>me wrong, But I can understand how she got there.

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<v Speaker 7>The only reason why I think it was kind of

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<v Speaker 7>like cheating, is it because it was kind of like

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<v Speaker 7>one sided in the sense of like they didn't have

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<v Speaker 7>the conversation that they were broken up, which is why

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<v Speaker 7>Luke came the next day to talk to her, Like

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<v Speaker 7>technically there was, but.

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<v Speaker 1>In her mind that it did of the conversation. Her

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<v Speaker 1>ultimatum was that conversation.

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<v Speaker 7>Right right right, which is why I think in her

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<v Speaker 7>head they were broken up, but I think in reality

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<v Speaker 7>they were not. So that's why I took it as cheating,

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<v Speaker 7>because there was no conversation between the two of them

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<v Speaker 7>of we're done, this is it, We're moving on.

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<v Speaker 5>I just okay, cheating debate aside. I'm sure we'll have

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<v Speaker 5>that for a lot of days. I don't think she

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<v Speaker 5>knew she was going to sleep with him. Now, I

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<v Speaker 5>could be wrong, because I'm getting the vibe you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally do not think she went over there thinking

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if she didn't need that intent, I think

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<v Speaker 4>she would have because I feel like part of it

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<v Speaker 4>was validation, right, like she needed to go to somebody

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<v Speaker 4>who was going to going to not accept her. That's

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong word, but like, what's the word I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to find like not push her away. Yeah, that's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be like, yes, come you know, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh totally. I agree with that she wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she went to Christopher's and was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>having a bad day. Then then yeah, then that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have been her intent. But she showed up and it

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<v Speaker 4>was written on her.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she wanted the ego boost from a man

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<v Speaker 3>that loved her. I just don't think she thought she

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<v Speaker 3>would take it that far.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I guess we don't know, all right, she

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<v Speaker 5>would keep it going. Okay, Scott, you ready, Actually this

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<v Speaker 5>isn't bad for you, this is nice for you. I

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<v Speaker 5>gotta say, I'm pretty bummed. Wanted to say heartbroken, But

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<v Speaker 5>that's extreme about how Scott categorized his plead and lare

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<v Speaker 5>lies pathetic. That scene broke me and showed how much

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<v Speaker 5>he loved her. It's not pathetic to fight for what

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<v Speaker 5>you love. When you're at risk of losing something, you

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<v Speaker 5>just put your ego aside and go all out. I

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<v Speaker 5>thought Luke was real and raw and it conveyed something

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful and heartfelt.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing pathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh. I agree with the comment in that I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with the comment and that it's not pathetic to fight

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<v Speaker 1>for what you love, it's just how you'd go about

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. And I think that's the distinction I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make that I didn't make her earlier. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's just a better way to do that without losing,

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<v Speaker 1>without losing your dignity.

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<v Speaker 3>And I kind of seen didn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 1>It bothered me a great deal. Bothered me a great deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It just showed because it showed how powerless he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't. I didn't think it was great writing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it was more like that. She didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't like how I interpreted the writing.

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<v Speaker 1>I should I shouldn't bag on the writing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think I should take some responsibility here as an

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<v Speaker 1>artist who maybe missed the mark on how to turn

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<v Speaker 1>those phrases, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>I I don't feel like you missed the mark at all.

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<v Speaker 6>And I wasn't on the last episode, but I did

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<v Speaker 6>mention in my comments that scene where Luke comes with

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<v Speaker 6>his truck all packed and he's like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>need you in my life. That was, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 6>one of the best scenes that you did in the

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<v Speaker 6>entire series, like it just it was so good and

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<v Speaker 6>you can see, like when she says Luke I slept

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<v Speaker 6>with Christopher, like even to see all of the emotions

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<v Speaker 6>just wash over his face right then and there, and

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<v Speaker 6>it was amazing. I didn't think Luke was pathetic at all.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't think he was weak. I think the night before,

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<v Speaker 6>Laura I was panicking and now he's panicking because he's

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<v Speaker 6>realized that, you know, he's like, he's losing Laurali, and

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<v Speaker 6>so he suddenly had this epiphany that you know, he

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<v Speaker 6>had been shutting her out this whole time, and now

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<v Speaker 6>he's going to lose her, and he's like freaking the

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<v Speaker 6>frick out about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think he was weak at all.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought it was It was a very good portrayal

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<v Speaker 6>of his love for her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think she should have said, okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we would have been really upset with Luke

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<v Speaker 4>if you didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't know why she didn't say okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that brings us to this person's other comment, Why

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<v Speaker 5>the hell do we spend so much time saying what

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<v Speaker 5>should have been written? It's already been written.

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<v Speaker 3>And done. Therefore it's the show.

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<v Speaker 5>As much as I get frustrated with certain things on

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<v Speaker 5>the show, it just is. And that is freaking life.

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<v Speaker 5>Just feels like the need to rewrite takes me out

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<v Speaker 5>of actual experience. I know. I mean, I go both

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<v Speaker 5>ways on this person's comment because I've also said exactly

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<v Speaker 5>that before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like telling you just shut up the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like.

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<v Speaker 3>I but I also have said.

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<v Speaker 5>I know I've said this though, you guys, I actually

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<v Speaker 5>said this funny, but then at the same time I

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<v Speaker 5>rewrite half of it.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's but that's life, right, Like you remember things

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<v Speaker 7>in the past and you're like, I kind of wish

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<v Speaker 7>there are things like I kind of wish I did

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<v Speaker 7>this differently, or what if this? What if this happened

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<v Speaker 7>this way? Like in your own life, if you think

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<v Speaker 7>of even if it's like little things, little moments where

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<v Speaker 7>you're like, I wish I would have said this, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>So I think it's just natural.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and it's also like we just kind of decided

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<v Speaker 5>to go with the podcast this way where we sort

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<v Speaker 5>of give our real opinions on what we wish.

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<v Speaker 3>Would have happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just a different show. If we were just

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<v Speaker 5>like I don't know, maybe then what would we talk.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess just about the plot and about what should

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<v Speaker 4>have been.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. I guess. I think we really go deep.

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<v Speaker 7>In some other rewatch podcasts, like they hint at it,

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<v Speaker 7>but like we really just take it to the next level,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think it just shows. But we're passionate about it,

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<v Speaker 7>Like we're passionate about these characters, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's we're fans too, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>right to give our opinions and be passionate about our

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<v Speaker 1>opinions too, you know, but much respect. You know, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gets a voice, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the next one's good Amy.

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<v Speaker 7>This isn't coming from me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all from Tara two five sixty three.

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<v Speaker 7>Amy's inability to self reflect and take into account that

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<v Speaker 7>we as the listeners, only have issues and comment negatively

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<v Speaker 7>about her week after week. The same comments and criticisms

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<v Speaker 7>have been going on since the first episode aired. Scott

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<v Speaker 7>Patterson beginning to speak publicly and candidly about the year's

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<v Speaker 7>long rumor about him and Lauren not getting along on set,

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<v Speaker 7>and rather than shut up and let him talk, she

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<v Speaker 7>bulldozes over him to interrupt him and talk like no

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<v Speaker 7>one wants to hear from you, and everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 7>hear what he has to say about the rumor. Also,

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<v Speaker 7>she has escalated from mocking Danielle to mocking us as

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<v Speaker 7>the audience, then Scott going from calling us bots to

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<v Speaker 7>haters who hate on everyone, yet in the same breathday

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<v Speaker 7>mock us for calling Danielle on Susanne Queen's if we

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<v Speaker 7>were so hateful, would we compliment them week after week?

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<v Speaker 7>We just are tired of the same requests of letting

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<v Speaker 7>you co hosts, especially Scott speak before cutting them off.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm hmm, yeah, okay, you bulldozing me woman. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a man who's been bulldozed by her.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually thought, look, okay, but.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a woman. The plans I have to take this.

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<v Speaker 3>In mm hmm. And okay number one.

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<v Speaker 5>I listened to the comments, I'm gonna talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Over, I'm gonna bulldoze you a little bit here. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>gang fans love you, hear you. But this is I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. Okay, I get it. I get it. But

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<v Speaker 1>Amy is very passionate and very knowledgeable about this show

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and I understand that it is frustrating at times,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is how I wanted the podcast. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>her fault. If you want to blame somebody, blame me

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<v Speaker 1>because I had an idea for a podcast. I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the rewatch thing was an original idea by me.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, that's the funniest part. And I found

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<v Speaker 1>out there were I don't know dozens and I went, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>great minds, great minds in their life. But but then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really emphasized her the style of the

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<v Speaker 1>exchanges in this podcast. I didn't want to make it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this button down kind of scene by scene

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<v Speaker 1>by scene thing that we were going to worship at

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<v Speaker 1>the altar of everything that was Gilmour. I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're going to open it up. We're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got all these you know, really break

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<v Speaker 1>people on this cast, and they have opinions, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted, And I said, I encouraged her to

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<v Speaker 1>talk over so well, yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 5>Wanted to be like, you know, the Thanksgiving family, right

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<v Speaker 5>that gets just unhinged. It's like we're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 5>hold back. And look, I was glad to see Scott

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<v Speaker 5>get snarky. And also I think I wanted to support

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<v Speaker 5>him so that he knew like, yeah, let it be,

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<v Speaker 5>let it go, You're you're safe, you're good. And so

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<v Speaker 5>I think the other thing I will say, and this

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<v Speaker 5>is not an excuse. Look, I consciously work every week

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<v Speaker 5>on everyone giving their opinion right and sharing. Now, the

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<v Speaker 5>one thing that I will agree with, I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 5>get like heated or jump in whatever. I don't agree

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm ever dismissive or whatever they sometimes say to.

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<v Speaker 3>Danielle or Suzanne.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't personally agree with that, because that's what we're

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<v Speaker 5>doing here, Like that would be like, it's not dismissive,

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<v Speaker 5>it's we're having a conversation. We don't have to agree,

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<v Speaker 5>so right, I don't have to support them with their

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<v Speaker 5>equin And if I disagree and they do the same,

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<v Speaker 5>they're like no, like we just have already done it

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<v Speaker 5>in episode. Or I'm like, I think she went over

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<v Speaker 5>there not intending to sleep with them, and they're like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>she did, and I'm like, okay, like vine, Like the

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<v Speaker 5>other thing I will say, and this is a little

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<v Speaker 5>behind the scenes. Sometimes nobody wants to listen to anyone

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<v Speaker 5>talk on and on and on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's something that we know in like when you

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<v Speaker 5>learn about doing shows like this. If you watch anything

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<v Speaker 5>on TV, at some point there is a point where

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<v Speaker 5>the news anchor has to jump in and move to

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<v Speaker 5>the next question.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Also a little behind the scenes, not that anyone cares.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you don't know that there's fifteen messages coming in

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<v Speaker 5>at us like, hey, you've you've gone twenty minutes and

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<v Speaker 5>you're in scene one. Hey the guess is in the way. Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>this is happening. And Danielle and Tara and Suzanne don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to pay attention to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott and I do. So that's not an excuse. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just giving you a little behind the scenes of sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>we're just trying to move this ship along.

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<v Speaker 1>But right, but let me let me address this bought

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<v Speaker 1>comments that I've made. So that's me trying to protect

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<v Speaker 1>Amy because I know she reads every comment and she

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<v Speaker 1>takes them to heart, but she's got a thick skin.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know what it's like to read comments. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a thing and have it affect your mental health

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<v Speaker 1>because years ago I took a position in something and

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<v Speaker 1>social media just slammed me. And it was horrible and

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<v Speaker 1>it was awful, and they said horrible things about my

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<v Speaker 1>mother and who had passed away and all kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really does affect you. So that was in

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<v Speaker 1>response to trying to have Amy's back, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>how hard she works and I know how much she

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<v Speaker 1>cares about us as people. She's a really good person.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a lovely human being and super supportive of all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. So that's just me trying to have her

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<v Speaker 1>back and say, hey, maybe don't read the comments so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to, you know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to be taking these hits all the time because

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<v Speaker 1>because I love her and I love you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying and I apologize to the fans, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to just flat out apologize fans. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to minimize you. I'm not referring to

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<v Speaker 1>as bots. I'm just trying to make Amy feel better,

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<v Speaker 1>like this can't be real.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so nice, right, it's so nice, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you've ridden, you know, very intelligent, very long comment

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<v Speaker 5>with a lot of detail that I don't know that

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<v Speaker 5>a bot can do. I don't even know what a

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<v Speaker 5>bot does. I thought a bot just tells you to

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<v Speaker 5>like buy a product, something bought.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was referring to as a bot is not

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<v Speaker 1>a Gilmore fan, but somebody from a rival podcast having

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<v Speaker 1>somebody their assistant or somebody you know, start sending bad

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<v Speaker 1>messages to us.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing I'll say is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that happens in this game, right, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>see a successful podcast in high con Oh yeah, there.

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<v Speaker 5>Are podcasts where we know intentionally I'm not saying that's

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<v Speaker 5>the case here, but people do do that, right, Like

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<v Speaker 5>they go in and intentionally right mean comments, so your

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<v Speaker 5>rating goes down, which please don't do so anyway. The

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<v Speaker 5>other thing I'll quickly say is there are about one

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<v Speaker 5>thousand dish plus comments a week right on all the

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<v Speaker 5>different platforms we have, and sometimes the commenters don't agree.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't want anyone taking it personally if they

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<v Speaker 5>think I'm not listening and doing what that comment says.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to sort of take it all in.

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<v Speaker 5>And also, like I'm fifty, Like changing me is not

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<v Speaker 5>going to be the easiest thing in the world. But

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, I'm fifty, Oh my god, that's gnarly Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>so anyway, we're I think we're kind of I'm sure holders.

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<v Speaker 4>And before we move on from this time, I do

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to actually take something from it. And Scott,

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<v Speaker 4>is there anything that you didn't get off your chest

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<v Speaker 4>about the Laura Memmer? Like, is there anything else left

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<v Speaker 4>to be said since they you know, this person does

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you were cut off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I think those rumors are things that are started by,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and maybe entertainment publications. There one journalist trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get clicks for their their magazine and let's start some,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's you know, the classic uh uh

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>tactic in any kind of journalistic circles is like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>build them up, especially entertainment. Let's build them up, build

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<v Speaker 1>them up, build them up. They're much beloved. Now, let's

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<v Speaker 1>not knock them down for clicks, you know, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>try to destroy something. Let's try to create something.

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<v Speaker 3>She's following you on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 5>Who so Lauren just joined Instagram like literally yeah, like

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<v Speaker 5>like days ago and it was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's talking about it. Oh really totally following you?

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<v Speaker 1>She's totally I wow, Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can give her.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how you do that, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>there's some way to say, like, welcome to Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren Graham, welcome to Instagram. Good to have you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, oh my god, they're calling it Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that's so good.

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<v Speaker 5>Juzanne, poor Suzanne has no voice, but she's gonna try.

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<v Speaker 3>They're calling it, get it Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>We got it, We got it the first time.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a question where these were circulated and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>clickbait articles. Was this during filming?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Did that affect anything between the two of you guys?

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<v Speaker 4>Were you guys like what the hell? Like this is weird?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, we were just too busy loving each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't even notice.

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<v Speaker 3>It because we weren't getting I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We're too busy love in each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, like then you just work together again on the movies,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's like yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Also, I'm sure it was so different because now on

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<v Speaker 7>social media, like people can expand on the topic and

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<v Speaker 7>the conversation with Back in the day, it was just

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<v Speaker 7>one article and that was it.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Yeah, social media wasn't really even that big of

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<v Speaker 6>a thing early.

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<v Speaker 4>To right, you couldn't just make a statement, hey we

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<v Speaker 4>love each other or post a picture together.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we had a great time working together and

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<v Speaker 1>it was always fun working with her. You know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>super prepared.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems lore liash not fully, but like from when

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<v Speaker 5>you see Lauren in interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Full of jolly and full of jokes and full of fun.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, she totally wore I just forgot this on

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<v Speaker 5>the Instagram. She wore a from Gilmore Girls in her

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 5>first post.

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<v Speaker 3>Really now I'm gonna move us along, not because I'm interrupting,

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<v Speaker 3>but because it's time to move along.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll read one. I think that Amy keeps missing

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<v Speaker 1>when she repeats the same exact opinions every week. What

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>would you do if you had a long lost kid?

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that Luke purposely excluded from her life with April

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<v Speaker 1>from the get go. This wasn't a day or two

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<v Speaker 1>or even a week to process. Two months went by

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<v Speaker 1>and the only reason Laurel I found out is because

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>she came into the diner that day, not because Luke

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>told her honestly that alone would be a reason. And

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<v Speaker 1>the engagement then it's solely him compartmentalizing and excluding her

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<v Speaker 1>without communicating, and Game at all never communicates, and he

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<v Speaker 1>desire for Laureli to be involved until he screws up

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>April party and needs her. You know, this person's making

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<v Speaker 1>a very salient point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's also remember that Luke is a grown man in

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<v Speaker 1>his forties who has his life together. I get that

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<v Speaker 1>the long lost kid is an adjunctent is an adjustment,

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<v Speaker 1>but my god, I'm tired of the Oh poor Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know how to handle the situation. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>bar is said incredibly low here.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I will.

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<v Speaker 5>Say I didn't repeat it almost every week because people

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<v Speaker 5>really like to pile on Luke for not immediately, including Loralai.

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<v Speaker 5>This comment is accurate, It's filled with good points, But

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<v Speaker 5>I also think there is a good point to saying,

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<v Speaker 5>suddenly you find out you have a kid that is

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<v Speaker 5>so massive that my main point is I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what I would do, what you would do, how you

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<v Speaker 5>would really react to that, And we are going to

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<v Speaker 5>dig into that in a little in a different episode.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know how I would react to that.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt in

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<v Speaker 5>saying his reaction may not be as crazy as everyone thinks.

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<v Speaker 5>You may not want and it's also like I thought

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<v Speaker 5>about this for days, right it's not like other things

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<v Speaker 5>you could find out about. It's a kid, so there

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<v Speaker 5>is sort of this like connotation like you slept with

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<v Speaker 5>somebody else, even though I understand it was years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a tougher one, and I do think people would

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<v Speaker 5>feel like this could be a real problem in my relationship.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm going to take it slow. I just have

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<v Speaker 5>some respect for the way he reacted. And like that

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<v Speaker 5>other person said, this is how they wrote it, So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not rewriting it. I'm going, you know what, this

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<v Speaker 5>is how he's reacting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to support it. Mm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's how they wrote it. Wrote what I had

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I could change it right, And I.

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<v Speaker 6>Feel like, I mean, I think we've beat this poor

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<v Speaker 6>horse just completely into oblivion. But I think that it's

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 6>not so much that anybody wanted Laura I brought in immediately.

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<v Speaker 6>It's that it just the whole thing seemed so indefinite,

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<v Speaker 6>like he never had a conversation with her other than

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a couple words at Martha's vineyard. It was

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<v Speaker 6>there was just never any discussion about where his thought

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<v Speaker 6>process was or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>He just completely blocked her out. So I don't my

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<v Speaker 3>take on that he wasn't ready.

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<v Speaker 4>He's treating Laura I like they've been dating for two months.

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<v Speaker 4>In that situation, all right, take your time, bro. But

0:32:55.840 --> 0:33:00.959
<v Speaker 4>they're engaged, they've they've known each other forever, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really find the distinction of it. Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think it should change whether you're engaged or married. You

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<v Speaker 4>know that, I don't think is a factor. And so

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, thinking about it in my own life,

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<v Speaker 4>if my husband came to me and said, oh I

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<v Speaker 4>found out I had a kid in my twenties or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>I would feel some kind of way about it if

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't include me or let me ask you just

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<v Speaker 4>talk to me about it. I don't need to be

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<v Speaker 4>around the kid twenty four to seven, but like you

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<v Speaker 4>need to talk to me about it and have these discussions.

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<v Speaker 4>This is our relationship. This does this added question to

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<v Speaker 4>our relationship. So you gotta what if it did happen?

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<v Speaker 5>So what if your husband came to you and said

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<v Speaker 5>he just found out he had a kid. He comes

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<v Speaker 5>to you right away and he says, I just found

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<v Speaker 5>out I have a kid, a twelve year old.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what do you do? What is your angel reaction?

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<v Speaker 4>We have to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, you know, not talk about it. What

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 5>would you do, Like, would you have the kid suddenly

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 5>you have a second kid? They live with you half

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.919
<v Speaker 5>the time? What would you do? Like me thinking about

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 5>it part, and I want to know what what someone

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 5>would actually do.

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 4>What I would actually do is I would tell my

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 4>husband we need to have a conversation on how we

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<v Speaker 4>are going to handle this together. And I think I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not getting I.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, I'm interrupting you because I want to know what

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<v Speaker 5>you actually would do.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that is what I would do, not the talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it part. What I want to know. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>you have to do, though, you have to talk about it,

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:35.760
<v Speaker 3>but you.

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<v Speaker 4>Have to talk about it and create a plan with

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<v Speaker 4>my husband of how we are going to handle the

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<v Speaker 4>situation together.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct.

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<v Speaker 5>So my point is that you can't even and again

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<v Speaker 5>write your letters. I don't care write your letters because

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to go hard. You're not even able to

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<v Speaker 5>figure out what you would do. You're like, keep telling me,

0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 5>we're going to talk about it, We're going to talk

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 5>about it. So Luke, who already has sort of a

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<v Speaker 5>hard time with this kind of thing, is trying to

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<v Speaker 5>figure out what he's going to do about it because

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't want.

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<v Speaker 4>To exactly the point he's going to do about it,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's no.

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<v Speaker 5>W Well, look if the problem, so say so, I

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 5>want to jump to the next thing, right, Like, say,

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<v Speaker 5>my significant other comes to me and says he has

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 5>a kid from twelve years ago. Obviously I understand where

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 5>you're saying, we're going to talk about it, but I'm

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 5>already ready to say, like, okay, then then they can

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 5>move in with us, or let's figure out financially. We're

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 5>gonna have to send this, you know, help contribute financially.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm ready to go to that next step. Right,

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 5>So all this.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to talk about it, Okay, why didn't.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 5>I say, wait a minute, why didn't Laura I say,

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 5>all right, here's what we're going to do instead of

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 5>everyone always having to talk about it.

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But here, But here's the thing. I think that they're

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the imbalance between the verbal uh and mental abilities between

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Luke and Laureli are stark. And I think that Luke

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>might be avoiding even opening up the ball on this

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>conversation because he he probably fears he's going to get

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>overwhelmed with logic and justification and he's not ready for

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that yet, you know what I mean. It's like getting

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>into a conversation about something like this with laurel I

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>is something he's just not ready for because he knows

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>she's going to come at him, you know, with justifications,

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's just not ready for it yet.

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 3>I agree he doesn't.

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>He almost doesn't stand a chance with her, you know

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, but I mean Luke holds his own against laurel

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 6>I all the time, Like they have that back and

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 6>forth banter all the time, and you guys keep saying

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 6>he's not ready. He's not ready, he's not ready. But like,

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 6>don't forget that scene where they were buying the birthday

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 6>present and he tells her why he doesn't want to

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 6>bring her in. It's because of his ego and he's

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 6>afraid that she's gonna like Lorelai better.

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<v Speaker 3>I sort of always thought that was a little hooy

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 3>but whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it felt a little like felt a little excusey funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought that was really what he was really, Yeah,

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I never.

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<v Speaker 5>Believed that, But whatever, keep going, Susan, Well, that's fine, No,

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<v Speaker 5>keep going, keep going.

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to hear like, No, I feel.

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<v Speaker 6>Like We've beat this dead horse. I've said my opinion

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred thousand times, So I don't I don't see

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<v Speaker 6>the point and keep going over it.

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 5>Because that's the whole show is for you that that's

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 5>the whole show of this podcast is for you to

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 5>keep giving your opinion because that's the conversation we're having.

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<v Speaker 4>So like, I think that I think we're just never

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<v Speaker 4>going to agree on on this, but I think to

0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, I can relate to, you can create.

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<v Speaker 5>A disagree because the way Loralai would probably come in

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.959
<v Speaker 5>is the same way I come in freaking hot with Hey,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna we'll split time with her, she's gonna live here,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 5>I'll do this, I'll do this, and and Luke is

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 5>overwhelmed by that. And that's why I think Scott's point

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 5>is so well taken.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that might be a little bit yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sure, but you know, I think I I think

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<v Speaker 4>just still there's just no there's just a complete exclusion,

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 4>which is the issue. So Lorlai can come in like

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<v Speaker 4>that and Luken say, you know what, I need a

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 4>second and I but he didn't. He didn't he shut

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 4>her out. He's like, oh, you can't come. You can't

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 4>come like who wants to be He honestly dismissed Lorelai

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 4>for the whole front half of that April April situation

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 4>until until the birthday party came. But she did take

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 4>it like that. Lorelai took it like that, that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and what I've always wanted.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is, like I said, Abraham Hicks, right, this

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 5>is this like if you go on YouTube, it's one

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.240
<v Speaker 5>of those self help people, right, and her whole process.

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 5>I would love to hear her analyze this because it

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<v Speaker 5>would be that Laura li I is making herself feel

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<v Speaker 5>bad about this, not Luke. And I know that's kind

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 5>of like hippy dippy woo wooy whatever, but that Laura

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<v Speaker 5>li I, because she loves Luke, should trust Luke and

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<v Speaker 5>his process that he needs for this instead of needing

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<v Speaker 5>it to be the way she needs it to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she was trying to do that. She was

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<v Speaker 4>giving him.

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<v Speaker 5>She was with a but always with a huffy puffy

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<v Speaker 5>not she wasn't fully authentically doing it, Whereas when the

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<v Speaker 5>roles were reversed.

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Luke really really gave her.

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 5>What she needed when she was having her issues with

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<v Speaker 5>Rory so my take on it, And again I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if I'm right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just my take, right, Like, that's like life is

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.959
<v Speaker 5>that she never feel fully.

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Was supportive of what his process was. She wanted her

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.280
<v Speaker 3>process to be his process, but it just wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and vice versa. I guess you can say.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I again, we've had this conversation before. I

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<v Speaker 6>feel like she did support him because she did exactly

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<v Speaker 6>what he asked of her, which was to stay back

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 6>and not participate in anything. And so I feel like

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 6>she was supporting him. She wasn't inserting herself. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>showing up at the diner after he told her not to,

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 6>and she wasn't like, you know, trying to meet April

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 6>in any way other than what he wanted.

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 5>So I feel like, so I get what you're saying,

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 5>but she wasn't doing it internally, she was so like, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't does it really matter?

0:40:58.960 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 5>Why?

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 3>Though for me.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 5>It does because it's why there was the explosion. It's

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 5>being hard to get versus playing hard to get. That's

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 5>the best comparison I can give you. When you play

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<v Speaker 5>hard to get, it's all a game and it's all

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:17.359
<v Speaker 5>bs right, and you explode out and have an ultimatum

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 5>exactly like she did. When you are hard to get

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 5>it's very genuine and that you never have that because

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<v Speaker 5>that is it is more core.

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So for me, Loralai was playing it and not being it.

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 5>She was doing it, but she never was feeling it.

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 5>She was feeling all the pain, which is exactly why.

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 5>And I think the writing is brilliant. She exploded out

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 5>because she was never authentically doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>She was robotic. I don't know what the words are.

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully I'm conveying it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I get. And you're saying that Luke was living

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't playing at.

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 3>It, correct, he was sort of yes, that's.

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>In my he was being the genuine person and conveying

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>his genuine feelings at the top of that whole situation

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>like this is what I need right, respect it and

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>this is not a game to me.

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't telling her, I mean he I.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Mean, you can follow him for a lack of communication.

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>You can follow him for that.

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 5>But wait, the one thing I would hope and again

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 5>that's why we're doing this. And Susanna know you're coughing

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 5>the whole podcast is for everybody to keep giving their

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 5>points right and not to be frustrated by continually having

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 5>the conversation, because I do want to hear what everybody

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 5>has to say and I can. I know you're getting frustrated.

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 5>I don't want you to get frustrated.

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<v Speaker 4>The next one is I don't hate Amy, and I'm

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 4>not a bot. I just don't know how Amy basically

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 4>bullies her opinions and not allow others to express their

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 4>opinions without waiting for the to finish what they want

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.800
<v Speaker 4>to say. That being said, I feel that Anna should

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<v Speaker 4>not have put those conditions on loralizing in April. If

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<v Speaker 4>I were in larelized position, I would want to establish

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of relationship with my future stepchild before I

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<v Speaker 4>walk down the aisle. Most psychiatrists recommend that kids meet

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<v Speaker 4>their parents' significant other at least nine months to a

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 4>year after the couple start dating. Also to Anna's comment

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 4>about how marriage signals stability, I would disagree with that

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 4>in that there are many people who are in a

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<v Speaker 4>state who are in a stable relationships who aren't necessarily married.

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<v Speaker 4>I realize that Anna's view of romantic relationships is very outdated,

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 4>but there are lots of couples who have been in

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 4>a stable relationship for years without formalizing it. My mom's

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 4>sister and her husband were in a relationship with each

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.480
<v Speaker 4>other for at least ten years before they got married.

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 4>One can be in a marriage and it's very unstable.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree that everything this person just said, including

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the top part.

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Most psychiatrists recommend that the kids meet their parents' significant

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<v Speaker 1>other at least nine months to a year after the

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<v Speaker 1>couple start dating.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really interesting.

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.399
<v Speaker 5>You're not supposed to just date someone for two months

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 5>and introduce them to your kids.

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 3>If you believe what like.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 5>You do whatever you want everybody, but that's what the

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 5>recommendation is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, go back to the top. So I can just

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 3>take it in that I bully my opinions and not

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 3>allow others to express their opinions without I don't.

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Think that's you know, you know, it may come off

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that way, but I think everybody here has no problems

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 1>expressing their opinions. Have you ever had a problem just

0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>no opinion, nursuan or I've never had an issue expressing myself,

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and Danielle's never had an issue expressing. It's just that

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that when you believe that you you know, you're following

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a thread like a lawyer would in a case, and

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 1>once to prove their point. That's all it is. And

0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>people can disagree, agree or disagree, but you know, nobody

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>here has had a problem.

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 3>No, And I always go and take it. I always listen.

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I also I also just think about it and go.

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is is when I'm talking about myself,

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 1>please don't interrupt me.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 4>What were you saying?

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the only role we have here.

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<v Speaker 7>I also just want to say, like I can't speak

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 7>for everyone, but for me, like I never leave our

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 7>episode thinking like I was treated like I couldn't say anything,

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 7>and I just want to point that out, like I've

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 7>never felt that way, or I've always left our Zoom

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 7>meetings with like, you know, smile on my face. Was

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 7>a good episode, and I've never felt negatively.

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:42.320
<v Speaker 3>So I just want to say that.

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 5>It will be a bit boring if we were all

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 5>just like, yeah, I think this, I agree with you, by.

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's actually let's do that. No, let's do that, let's

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.479
<v Speaker 1>do that right now, Let's do that right now.

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 5>I also like do an episode without me, like I

0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 5>told Scott that I go why do I just do

0:45:58.920 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 5>an episode without man?

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>He's no?

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So wait a minute, was we just read this comment?

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I agree with everything me too, Amy does Danielle do

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you agree with everything that was said here? Yeah, of

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>course you do. Of course you do. And Susanna agrees

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>as well. We don't ask her, we could see by

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the look on her face she agrees. Tara, you agree

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to yep. Okay, good, let's move on now.

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 5>I will say this person does make a good point

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.439
<v Speaker 5>in that Anna is sort of a real pill, right,

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 5>Like I get what she's saying and protecting her kid,

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 5>but like Luke and Laura, I've been together for like

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 5>one hundred years, like friends and together, so I always

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 5>thought Anna was sort of and I said it was

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 5>like a bit she was a little.

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:44.919
<v Speaker 6>Over the top, I think. I mean, I think it's

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 6>valid that she wants to protect her kid. I completely

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 6>agree with that. But when she said something about how

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 6>she wouldn't introduce her daughter to somebody until she's ready

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 6>to get married, like that seems weird because what if

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.080
<v Speaker 6>your kid and your fiance don't get along like that?

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 5>And also her point is that and it's like okay, right,

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 5>and I'm engaged to this guy, so it was sort

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 5>of dumb, Like I don't an I was dumb.

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 4>It was just giving a reason why.

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, this person's comment of like her view on relationships

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 7>a bit outdated. I actually never saw it that way,

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 7>but I could see it now because I feel like

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 7>these days, like if someone's not married but they've been together,

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 7>I don't really question it.

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh, I love the part in this comment

0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 5>where the person says there's so many bad marriages exactly

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 5>like Luke and Lorli, unmarried, even not engaged, could have

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 5>a way better, more stable, better relationship for a child

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:47.399
<v Speaker 5>than idiotic people who are married and like have them

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 5>slew of problems. So whoever wrote this, I think that

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 5>their comment is actually so perfect because they're being they're

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:57.959
<v Speaker 5>saying it so well, like.

0:47:59.600 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 3>I just agree with everything they said, even.

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 5>Another I didn't realize this is going to be a

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 5>ten part series, but let's do another one.

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Very very incisive commentary.

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Very fantastic episode of the podcast.

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 5>I came very close to ending My Gilmore Girls rewatch

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 5>because the Luke lower Light plot of season six seven

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 5>is just too contrived. While Rory has very little to

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 5>do this podcast saves it because it's interesting to listen

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 5>to the show being discussed by a group of intelligent.

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Thoughtful people.

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I love the.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 5>Fact that the pod crew have different perspectives on the

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 5>show and characters. They challenge me as a viewer while

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 5>keeping things lighthearted and being respectful to each other. Amy

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 5>in particular is clearly an outstanding broadcaster and would love

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 5>to see her doing different shows.

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>My yea, how much.

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Missus sugarman.

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 5>A second account This is from my finsta. No, I

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 5>literally did not write this. I do not know the person,

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.239
<v Speaker 5>but that's so nice and thank you. And also that

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 5>is the point, like we want you to listen because

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 5>even if season six and seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Blow, we're going to have a good time talking about it.

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:13.280
<v Speaker 5>And how about Scott. Scott was just on fire last week?

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:14.880
<v Speaker 1>What did I do? What did I do? It?

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:18.720
<v Speaker 3>We spewing stuff and it was and nothing.

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm always on fire, you know. Come on and in

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>two plow the fans and I pulled everybody that came

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to see me, and it was a lot of people,

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>good folks and I and they all listened the podcasts

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and I said, what do you think about this? You

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:37.879
<v Speaker 1>know what do you think about Amy? And they love

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Amy and they oh, oh god, we love her so much.

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:42.479
<v Speaker 1>So I got one of them on the phone because

0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 1>I knew Amy was, you know, a little bit you know, tender. Yeah,

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean she was getting an ass whooping, and I

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>don't like to see that. Man, she's my girl. So

0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.839
<v Speaker 1>this fan I called, I facetimed Amy and this fan

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>so I said, we we love you.

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 3>And I'm also find that I like bring it. I

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 3>get it. It's your show.

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:10.280
<v Speaker 5>It's we're the you know, we talk, but it's your show,

0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:11.760
<v Speaker 5>and we do pay attention.

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 3>That is the one thing I will say. But anyway, oh.

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, all right, probably an unpopular opinion, but

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Luke and Lorelai is a great love story.

0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Wow, let's hear it.

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear that's all right, easy, easy. I

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 1>think they they could have been. I think they could

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>have been because all the making for a great relationship

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 1>was there, but they put so much conflict between them.

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 1>We got such a small window of them being happy.

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:52.720
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's for the drama of the show

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>exactly why, but it really takes away from my view

0:50:56.600 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of seeing them as a solid relationship true. Also, my

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 1>take on Luke packing up the truck to Elope wasn't

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 1>out of character. He was desperate and making a giant

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.359
<v Speaker 1>leap to get her back. Unfortunately it was too late

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>for her.

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:14.759
<v Speaker 5>I kind of agree with everything this person is saying, too.

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 5>There is so much conflict and issues we don't ever

0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 5>get to just enjoy how funny they could be together,

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 5>or the antics they could have, like when they went

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 5>to that party and they were driving.

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Home and Laura was all drunk, Like, we don't see

0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:30.839
<v Speaker 3>enough of that.

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, look if it's too The challenge in the

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>writer's room is how do we balance? And I thought

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 1>they did a great job of balancing out the needs,

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>servicing the needs of a committed relationship that was a

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>diyllic and the long suffering while not sort of giving

0:51:58.200 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>up the ghost all the time, you know what I mean.

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, yeah, it's like how do you balance

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that and keep people engaged? And I think they did

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful job with that, with the conflict, you know,

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not disagreeing one hundred percent. I'm saying

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>but again, you know, one thing I do know, and

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:19.000
<v Speaker 1>one thing writers experienced showrunners and experienced writers on TV

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:22.680
<v Speaker 1>tell me is that you give the audience what they want,

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.760
<v Speaker 1>they're going to go away. You've got to keep.

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 3>That so true. I mean the Moonlighting is a perfect example.

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:34.280
<v Speaker 5>Remember everybody wanted Maddie and whatever, well, Maddian.

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Whatever, but David, oh yeah, David.

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 5>Maddie, thank you, and then it was like wow. And

0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 5>even Ross and Rachel it wasn't just smooth sailing, even

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 5>though we all kind of knew they would end up together. Anyway,

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:49.919
<v Speaker 5>let's do a couple more. We're running out of time,

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 5>and I'm not interrupting.

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm just telling everybody.

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 4>Do you want me to go?

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I'm with Tara.

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.760
<v Speaker 4>And that over. I like revival episodes more than season seven.

0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 4>The good stuff from season seven towards the end is

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 4>not enough to make up for the lack of how

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 4>much it sucks for the majority of it. For me,

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 4>it's because of Christopher. Season seven. He is there constantly

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:15.680
<v Speaker 4>into the second half. They take his character that ninety

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 4>nine percent of fans hate and shove him Onmar's screens,

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 4>down our throats for half the season, always around, always

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 4>with Laura Li. He completely drags the show down with

0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.879
<v Speaker 4>his presence. Not only that during all of this there's

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:29.839
<v Speaker 4>zero to very little interaction with Luke and Laura Lai.

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.879
<v Speaker 4>You take one of the most beloved relationships on the

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 4>low on the show, Luke and Laurli, and completely take

0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 4>it from us, their friendship included, and replace it with

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 4>one of the most hated relationships of the show, Christopher

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 4>and Lauralai. And as the audience, we're just supposed to

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 4>accept that that's how things are now. No, this was

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 4>such a poor writing choice and a disservice to fans.

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 4>It's even things like Laurli going to the diner that

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 4>is one of the most staple parts of the show.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 4>Literally the first scene of the show is Lauraai going

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:01.759
<v Speaker 4>into the diner, but season seven until episode nineteen, when

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 4>the season is almost over, before she steps foot in

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 4>there again spoiler alert. Taking these major things of what

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.960
<v Speaker 4>the fans love about the show away makes the show

0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 4>not what it once was. And if I had been

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 4>watching it live, I would have been one of the

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 4>viewers who dropped out. And the revival episodes, even with

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 4>their flaws, we have zero interaction with Laura Lai and Christopher.

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Luke and Loreli are together. Oh spoiler and Christopher is

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 4>the only one is only in one short scene, and

0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:31.720
<v Speaker 4>so for those reasons alone, that makes the Revival episodes

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 4>more enjoyable to me as the as the whole than

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 4>season seven.

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:39.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, good points in here. I totally agree with every

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 5>part of it, but great points.

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:44.239
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.800
<v Speaker 7>I think that's why I enjoyed the revival is because

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:53.399
<v Speaker 7>season seven really takes you out of that comfort. Like Laura,

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 7>I would go to the Zigner every day and I

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 7>didn't even realize it was until episode seven that she doesn't.

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Step no episode nineteen, I'm sorry of.

0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 7>Season seven, episode nineteen, Yeah, that she doesn't even step foot,

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 7>and that kind of takes you away from your comfort show.

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, there's things in season Steven I do like,

0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 5>and obviously we're gonna break it all down, but this

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:16.839
<v Speaker 5>person makes great points.

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 3>We can all be right.

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know the thing, you know, what I'm getting

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 1>out of this is just how engaged and how smart

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>these fans are.

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:31.919
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, oh totally and they have We're not even

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:33.640
<v Speaker 5>doing some of the things today because.

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:34.720
<v Speaker 3>We wanted to be a little more broad.

0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they see things that I'm like, huhn.

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Amazing analytical and critical abilities.

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:46.120
<v Speaker 7>And the way they like call back to like four

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 7>seasons ago, and they're like, well, this is the reason why,

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:48.760
<v Speaker 7>And I'm.

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 3>Like, well, that's what Suzanne is so good about. Suzannah.

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 5>Her voice is kind of going, but hopefully she's here.

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 5>Is like Suzanne is the fan like that, that.

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Is, she just probably has a better memory, is able

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:05.080
<v Speaker 3>to bring something from past seasons into the conversation with us,

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 3>which is why she is the queen. Even though you're

0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna say, I'm mom.

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.839
<v Speaker 7>Well, we all watch shows differently as well, Like I'm

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:17.439
<v Speaker 7>someone who, like I may not take note on every

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 7>little thing, but I enjoy the ride, and there are

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:23.919
<v Speaker 7>people who watch it and really take note on every

0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:25.440
<v Speaker 7>little thing. And I think that's also what we have

0:56:25.480 --> 0:56:28.319
<v Speaker 7>to remember as we sit here and Rewatch and the

0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:30.720
<v Speaker 7>fans Rewatch, like we all watch them in a different way.

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Totally. That's such a good point. Like I have my

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 3>shows that I iron to, and then I have my

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.160
<v Speaker 3>shows that I have to focus.

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 5>The whole thing, and then I have my shows where

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm doing my emails and I pretty much think I

0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:46.080
<v Speaker 5>miss half the show if you're doing yeah, yeah, you're right.

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, this person makes a great point.

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 5>To me, Lorla not checking up on Luke after the

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:53.320
<v Speaker 5>car crash into his diner emphasize how she truly believed

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 5>that she'd lost him for good.

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that's an amazingly good point.

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:04.360
<v Speaker 5>I actually think that she would have run over there anyway,

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 5>not just as her fiance, but as her best friend too.

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:09.880
<v Speaker 5>Here's the thing, Laura and Luke's relationship is rooted in

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 5>a decade long close friendship. Even if they aren't in

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.400
<v Speaker 5>a real romantic relationship with each other, they still have

0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:18.479
<v Speaker 5>a platonic relationship that means just as much to them.

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 5>I totally also agree their first breakup in season five

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 5>highlights this too, when Laura's breaking down and calling Luke

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 5>to come over because she really needs her best friend

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 5>to be there.

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:30.960
<v Speaker 5>In season seven, for the first time ever, it feels

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.800
<v Speaker 5>like they lost that friendship. This is such great points

0:57:33.920 --> 0:57:35.959
<v Speaker 5>how much that was done was too severe to figure

0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 5>at all lost by laurlat Danielle. I think it's also

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.960
<v Speaker 5>important to note that Luke and LAURAAI first became friends

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:45.400
<v Speaker 5>again before getting back together in the finale. They're best

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 5>friends first and foremost, and Lauraai not running over to

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:51.479
<v Speaker 5>Luke's in this episode shows they've lost that as well.

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is very a stupid yea, yeah, really good.

0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 6>It kind of goes back to the the bumper analogy

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:03.320
<v Speaker 6>in that last episode.

0:58:03.360 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 3>It's like.

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 6>She's not only not in the car, but now she

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:11.000
<v Speaker 6>can't even hold onto the bumper anymore. It's like the

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 6>whole thing is completely broken off. It's the engagement and

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 6>the friendship and she just needs to draw that bright

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 6>line that this is this is done. Like I can't

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 6>go check on him because it just needs to be.

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Or less, we're not really friends anymore. If you can't

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 1>share April with me, right, it's a friend would do that. Yeah,

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. That's a very interesting point.

0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's do it. Scott. You read it.

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Scott is one hundred percent right, and that's it. Thanks everybody,

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>this one. Scott is one hundred percent right. It was

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a cruel and odd way to go about this relationship.

0:58:52.840 --> 0:58:55.680
<v Speaker 1>It was completely off. I absolutely hated the way Laurel

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I was in this episode. I'm not sure if I'm

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the only one, but instead of having a conversation, she

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:06.240
<v Speaker 1>gave him an ultimatum, and that's just not how you'd

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 1>approach a love like their I agree, I agree interest

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 1>great point.

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 5>And I get that she exploded totally fine. I'm totally

0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:20.200
<v Speaker 5>with her explosion's totally fine with the ultimatum, then she

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 5>needed to calm down and then they could have solved it.

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>So because of these comments, maybe re examine some of

0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>my thoughts about the writing. Maybe the writing is so

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>good that it it begs all of these questions in

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>all of this controversy. Right, Well, that.

0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 3>To me is what I love about the show.

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 5>Like I love that for twelve weeks we've been having

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 5>the same conversation that doesn't bother me. I get that

0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 5>other people don't feel that same way. I mean, I

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 5>have a friend and we've been having the same conversation

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:56.400
<v Speaker 5>for three years about her relationship. Three years, and I'm

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 5>I'm happy to every day I have it again and

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm fine. But I get how some people we'll find

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 5>that frustrating.

1:00:01.200 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I just don't so this.

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 5>I thought we were gonna get through twenty five comments.

1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:12.120
<v Speaker 5>We've gone through like seven, So I don't know.

1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 3>I liked this. I think we can definitely bring this

1:00:14.600 --> 1:00:17.720
<v Speaker 3>back again. Maybe we will. We'll go through a few

1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:18.520
<v Speaker 3>more episodes, and.

1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Then I think it's eye opening. I really like this.

1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I was.

1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 1>When you told me what this was, I was like,

1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:30.560
<v Speaker 1>but this is really eye opening. Yeah, Mark, folks, well

1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I must say that was quite refreshing. Amy, Thank you

1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:36.000
<v Speaker 1>so much for doing this.

1:00:37.840 --> 1:00:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah we did good. I did have a lot of comments.

1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but enough. I mean, I think it represents but

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:44.200
<v Speaker 1>we had.

1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:46.000
<v Speaker 5>To read them all, so the pain of reading them

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:48.760
<v Speaker 5>all to find the ones we were right.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that's why you get the big dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>because you take the big hits.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, one thing is for sure, it's possible to love

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<v Speaker 1>the fans as much as we do and love Amy

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we do, and.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate her.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you guys. We disagree with you guys, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>we disagree with Amy Amy, but we can all agree

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<v Speaker 1>that we're having one heck of a fun ride on

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. And you know it was a phone call

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<v Speaker 1>to Amy what three years ago? And look, look look

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<v Speaker 1>at us now, I mean, and I think we all

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to this every week, get together. We get

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<v Speaker 1>to see each other and.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when you make me do it so early.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when it's early, you know, anyway, all the best

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<v Speaker 1>and really we do appreciate your your comments. Please keep

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<v Speaker 1>them coming. They are important. Your voices are always taken

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<v Speaker 1>seriously and they're always important, so just keep them coming. Kids,

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you next time. Thank you, gang, and

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<v Speaker 1>have a great day and stay safe out there. Hey everybody,

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