1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the College Football Apostles, where we love college football, 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: and we're gonna break things down in a very simple 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: way for you, the way you understand what's going on 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: in the world college football. So I'm George Reister, He's 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Ralph Amsden. It makes sure that you guys like subscribe, 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: tell a friend about the show, make sure that you 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: share so we can keep bringing this dope content to you. 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about a couple things today. So 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: the NCAA antitrust lawsuits are like, there's obviously a settlement 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: two point eight billion dollars, almost two point seven seven 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: and that is going to like the details of it, 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: or the lack of details of it, are coming out, 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: and I think that the system is more broken now 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: than it even was prior to this. That the new 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: trand for rules are gonna give you some seventh eighth 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: year players, it's it's wild. 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: And of course these. 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: New kickoff times are being announced for the first three 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: weeks of the season, and of course we got to 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: deal with those. But we'll start though with the antitrust lawsuit, Ralph, 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: because of course this is a thing, right, two point 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: seven seven billion dollars money's going back. I'm not getting 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: any money because they're only going to go back about 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: six years and a But at the same time, this 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: looks like on its face, yes, this is a great 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: thing and all of this, But Ralph, I believe that 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: the system is now more broken because they don't have 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: answers to any of the questions that they need answers 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: to to be able to move forward. They just agreed 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: on a number that that the Power five conferences would 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: agree with, Like even though the Board of Governors already 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: agreed on it for the NC five people opposed it, 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: and you got the other twenty two to twenty seven 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: conferences saying oh yeah, no, no, no, we object to 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: the payment where where we're gonna be responsible for nine 36 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety million dollars in payments while the other 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: while the other schools are while the Power five schools 38 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: are only responsible for six hundred and sixty four million 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: dollars despite them making like ninety percent of the money. 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: So we we have more problems then we have answers 41 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: at this point in time. That's why we're here to 42 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: break this down for you. And it also is you 43 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing with title nine. You don't 44 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: know any of this stuff, Ralph, So how is this 45 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: a good thing? 46 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the first step to your destination, like 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: the journey begins with a step, right, I I don't know. 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know if I agree that it's more 49 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: confusing now than it was before they announced the terms 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: of the settlement. At least they know that they're going 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: to have to move in this direction that they should 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: have moved into twenty five years ago when they started 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: getting these massive television checks. Had they just realized that 54 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: the invitation of unlimited money was going to cause the 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: labor force to say, where is my part in that? 56 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: And the NCAA should be forced to answer that question? 57 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: And now they have been. Now the amount that they 58 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: came up with, like there was no unionization of players 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: or former athletes being able to set those terms. You 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: have to imagine a lot of that money is going 61 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: to go to lawyers, which I absolutely hate that that's 62 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: the case, as in any settlement. But to set up 63 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: a structure moving forward where players get to participate in 64 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: the revenue they produce, it's not necessarily a bad thing. 65 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: You know, the destination when you know the destination. That's true, North, 66 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: that's what they're going to be moving to. 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: But Sore, this is just a band aid, Like I 68 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: think that people are looking at this like that this 69 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: is the solution, but it is putting a band aid, 70 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: and this is not going to prevent further lawsuits. 71 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: More lawsuits are coming. 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: Like That's the thing is that this settlement was the 73 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: accumulation of three lawsuits and they decided to settle, you know, 74 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: in one and one big pie. All they cared about 75 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: was the number, that the number felt palatable to them, 76 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: rather than having like twenty million dollars in damages, which 77 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: could bankrupt the NCAA, bankrupt athletic departments, all of these things. 78 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: So there's an inherent problem there is that this is 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: a band aid and now they're and hold up, let 80 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: me give you a few more of the get give 81 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: the people a few more of the details, because that's 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: the part that bothers me, is that so there's the 83 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: backwards payment six years backwards, and then going forward. They 84 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: don't even know whether they're going to handle the back 85 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: payments and the forward payments as the same way. But 86 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: that's probably the smallest of the issue. There's the title 87 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: nine issue, where where should this money be going? Because 88 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Title nine says one thing, but reality says that the 89 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: men have generating about ninety percent of his money, So 90 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: that's probably where the money should be going. 91 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question that I've never understood, 92 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: What does revenue have to do with what schools kick 93 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: in as far as the trade of your presence at 94 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: my university and your participation in extracurricular sports in order 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 3: for the tools to do that job, because that's always 96 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: been the exchange. Is the scholarship, the room, the board, 97 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: all of it is tools so that you can do 98 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: your job to promot the university. Some of that comes 99 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: at a loss. In fact, it always came at a 100 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: loss until the television money came into place, until there 101 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: were revenue generating sports. But if a sport is generating revenue, 102 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: why do people who do not generate revenue, whether you're 103 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: on the rowing team or fencing or whatever it is, 104 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: why do they get to participate in a completely separate thing. 105 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: That is a good question because basketball and football have 106 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: generated the majority of the money. Now, women's basketball they 107 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: have a tournament which generates money, so there should be 108 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: money there. Softball does some numbers on television. But swim, 109 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: but you're right, swimming, rowing, will crew, and all of 110 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: these other sports they do no numbers. They operate at 111 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: a net loss. And one of the things that people 112 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: don't always understand about the athletic department budgets is is 113 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: that they are use it or lose it budgets. 114 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: So at the end of the. 115 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Year, they're like, oh, wow, the the training staff will say, damn, 116 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: we still got twenty grand left. Let's go buy new 117 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: cushions and repolster the and put new carpet in the 118 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: training room because we need it because it's time for 119 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: an update. So that's the reason why some of these 120 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: athletic departments don't operate in a surplus on some of 121 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: these levels, because it's to use it or lose it budget. 122 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: Because if the if they go line by line and 123 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, the training staff they don't need that 124 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars because they didn't use it. But then 125 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the next year they actually do need to buy some 126 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: new piece of technology or something like that that is 127 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: going to cost that it's not going to then be 128 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: in their budget. So the heads of it are always 129 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: trying to spend up to the last dollar because they 130 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: want to be able to have that budget available for 131 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: the next season. And we are looking at so this 132 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: whole payment system is supposed to start in the fall 133 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five, and this agreement is supposed to 134 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: last ten years. The system is broken when the and 135 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about not even on just the paying the 136 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: player side, Ralph, I'm talking about, how are these athletic 137 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: departments when you have UCLA paying cal Cow not having 138 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: enough money already, UCLA not having enough money already, how 139 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: are they They're operating at a significant deficit, so they're 140 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: not being run like businesses, and they're not being run 141 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: like Arizona State. I think is doing a great thing 142 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: putting the athletic department as part of the entire university, 143 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,239 Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to act like it's a separate entity. 144 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: So that's where I'm saying it's broken, is that if 145 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to keep the athletic departments as a separate 146 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: part of the university, but then your subsidized, I don't 147 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: think it makes sense. 148 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, like amateurism was never real. It 149 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: was something that we invented and it greatly advantaged people 150 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: in administrative positions and the institutions as a whole. We 151 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: know this. Even if you believe that amateurism was correct, 152 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: even if you enjoyed it more, even if you're completely 153 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: turned off by the players finally getting their share, you 154 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: have to admit that we made it up and that 155 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: it greatly, greatly, greatly benefited the institutions and the administrators 156 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: because they were capitalists. Essentially, we are twenty seven years 157 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: removed from our first one million dollar ball coach that 158 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: was Steve Spurrier in nineteen ninety seven. The trajectory from 159 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven to twenty seventeen not twenty years. If 160 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: we continued that from twenty seveneen to twenty thirty seven, 161 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: we're going to have a coach in twenty thirty seven 162 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: getting fifty million annually. Like they're Kevin Durant. It like 163 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: the trajectory that things are on cannot continue without benefiting 164 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: the people that the system is built around promoting. So 165 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: why can't sports that acted under the old system and 166 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: we're a lost lead for the university to promote itself. 167 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: Now you can blame colleges that maybe expanded athletics beyond 168 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: their capacity that's a conversation that we can We can 169 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: definitely have And if if a college this might seem callous, George, 170 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: and I wonder how you feel about this, if a 171 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: college expanded sports and what they offer beyond their means. 172 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: I don't have sympathy for them being in a situation 173 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: where they have to re tracked to get back into 174 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: a more financially responsible place. The sports is a privilege. 175 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: It's a privilege, and I don't think it comes at 176 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: the cost of you know, you can't blame basketball that 177 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: you don't have tennis anymore at your school. You can't. 178 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: If tennis doesn't generate revenue and the school does not 179 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: believe it worthwhile to continue with tennis because they've become 180 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: in the business of generating revenue, then that that's tough. 181 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: Breaks I I don't love it. 182 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: I hate it, Ralph. I hate that because Number one, 183 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: Olympic sports matter. That's the that's the that's the first thing. 184 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Olympic sports they do matter, right. I do think that 185 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: we it is an issue when we look at not 186 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: just the Olympic sports part of part of it, but 187 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: when we look at at I guess the the the 188 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: entire way that that the system and has been you know, 189 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: put put together because if you're gonna lose, like those 190 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: other sports are kind of feel like the fabric of 191 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: the of the school. But here's the here's the other 192 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: part you brought up. You know that it should be 193 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: run like a business and all of that. That brings 194 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: up two words private equity, which has been talked about. 195 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: People are like, yeah, this is this is a potential option. 196 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: This is this Ralph. That is the nuclear button. That 197 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: is the button that people think that they want pushed, 198 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: and they do not want that button pushed. You do 199 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: not want private equity in the world of college football. 200 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: So I belong to private equity, private private equity, and 201 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: I have friends who are in that. 202 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: That is their business. 203 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Private equity squeezes the life out of things. It is 204 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: about profit. It is not about the good of sports. 205 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: It is never going to be about doing what's right 206 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: for the sport. It is going to be doing what's 207 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: right for the budget. Like for instance, in the NFL. 208 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes not all the time, but sometimes they have to 209 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: make decisions that are right for the sport even though 210 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: it's not right for the budget because they understand the 211 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: big picture of growing the sport, the optics, all of 212 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. That's not what private equity does. Private equity 213 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: is going to look at these coaches contracts. They will 214 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: never look the same that trajectory of fifty million dollars. 215 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: It will never get their buddy, never under any circumstances, 216 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: because they will understand that that money can be best 217 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: used and other people who are qualified and will do 218 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: a good job will take that job for less well. 219 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: And the age of the bag man will come to 220 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: an end, or you'll continue to have it outside the 221 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: bounds of what private equity has to offer, because who 222 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: is going to approve what. First of all, the whole 223 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: Jayden Rashata contract would have died on the vine. 224 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Yes, if somebody was actually responsible. Yeah right, if you 225 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: don't get out of get out of here. Here's how 226 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: much we there will become a base pay now that 227 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: part people will like, there will become a base pay 228 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: for five stars, four stars, three starts like. There will 229 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: become a base pay for that base pay for starters like. 230 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: That's what private equity will. It will organize it better. 231 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: But in terms of what happens to your athletic departments, 232 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: what happens to your non revenue generating sports. What happens 233 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: to all of that stuff? Oh, it is going to 234 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: get streamlined and squeezed. 235 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: So here is my question, because I brought this up 236 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: last week, and I'm really curious as to your thoughts. 237 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: If instead of private equity, if instead of inviting investors 238 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: in because Brett or Mark from the Big twelve just 239 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: said that he's open to the idea of private equity 240 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: making an entrance into collegiate athletics, what if instead of 241 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: private equity, we had, like like we do with corporations, 242 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: the New York Stock Exchange, the Nasdaq, what if the 243 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: power for had a stock exchange and the the alumni 244 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: of those schools were allowed to invest. So it's not 245 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: just donations to name, image and likeness anymore, but the 246 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: the the private equity essentially becomes public trading of alumni. 247 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: You could actually buy into your program. You could you 248 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: could have a voice, you could elect leadership that gets 249 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: to be in meetings with UH with with athletic director 250 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: or you know, over certain matters of maybe setting a budget. 251 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: It'd probably all be like rubber stamp type stuff. But 252 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: what if what if there was an alumni network that 253 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: actually could be in an ownership position, sort of like 254 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packers right where. 255 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that but the difference between the packers is 256 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: that their people have that their owners quote air quotes 257 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: have no have no say, they have no like they 258 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: literally have no power. Whereas let's say I was buying 259 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: into the Oregon Ducks, right mm hmm, and but I 260 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: got a boatload of money. Now when when when shares 261 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: become available, I'm buying boot coool shares of it. So 262 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: now I am now a powerful person within this organization. 263 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: And what and what happens when in stocks and companies 264 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff when somebody wants somebody ouse 265 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: to hostile takeovers. 266 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: So now there you probably have to put a cap 267 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 3: on individuals to where no one person could go over 268 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: forty nine percent. 269 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: Or something like that. 270 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: But what if it's me and my three friends and 271 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 1: we and me Phil Knighton and and the Pepe's. 272 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: We, and you're gonna get a voice, And you're gonna 273 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: get a voice because you're an investor seventy percent of 274 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: the company, and we decide that we want to change things. 275 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: So you're going to open it up to hostile takeovers 276 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: of Athletic departments. 277 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: There has to be a system in place where the 278 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: vote or the things that you're involved in are severely limited. 279 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: Athletic departments aren't even gonna enter into any situation unless 280 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: they can control it. And so, but opening it up 281 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: to opening it up to that of like becoming an 282 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 3: alumni of a university grants you the ability to buy 283 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: into owning stock in the athletic department. And then let's 284 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: say that you have ten percent of the purse for 285 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: bowl game appearances, college football playoffs, March Madness, things like 286 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: that all get kicked back as disbursements to the shareholders 287 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: of that school. So there's a financial incentive to own 288 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: stock in that you can actually be rewarded for your participation. 289 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: I would, I'm all I'm saying is, if you're introducing 290 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: outside money, make that outside money inside money. Let your 291 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 3: alumni participate in an iron ship. I do. 292 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: I think that that's actually reasonable. 293 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: I do the and it's probably more palatable than to 294 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: have the pressures of private equity money because private equity 295 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: is going to have a voice, It's going to have 296 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: a big, huge voice in those things. 297 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: How long before an Ohio State fan would go get 298 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: a Michigan degree just so that they could buy a 299 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: bunch of shares in Michigan and try to ruin things 300 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: from the inside. Exactly, We'll find a way to break anything. 301 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: But I just I like that better than like mon 302 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: Santo owning part of Iowa. 303 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: Football, Sequoia Capital owning part of Sequoia Capital owned Facebook, 304 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: and and Stanford Football. 305 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: Speaking of outside corporate money, though, George, they are talking 306 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 3: about putting advertising jersey patches on college uniforms. As a 307 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: fan of the Los Angeles Lakers, brought to you by 308 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: wish dot Com, how do you feel about that? 309 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: Oh, it's coming, It's coming. 310 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: I I hated it with the power of a thousand 311 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: suns when they did it in the NBA. It's coming 312 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: because that's that's money. That's money there. Now you know 313 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: who's going to push back against. 314 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: That, Nike Adidas uh uh huh. 315 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: Now, granted, they couldn't fight against it in in those 316 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: They couldn't fight against it in the NBA. However, though 317 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: in the in college football, I don't know how much 318 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: they would be able to fight against it either. Even though, 319 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: Oh man, but that's I mean, that's literally a huge 320 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: revenue generator, right, there. 321 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 3: Okay, So let's say that all right scenario. You're the 322 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: marketing director. You control the entire marketing budget. Entire marketing budget, 323 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: all right, for Summer's Eve. Do you know what Summer's 324 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: Eve is. 325 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, of course, the the effeminine product maker. 326 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you control the entire budget. You are their 327 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: marketing manager. Uh. You have the opportunity to approach a 328 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: team that just appeared as the runner up in all 329 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: of college football last year and get some attention for 330 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 3: your brand. You, as the marketing manager of Summer's Eve, 331 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: do you go to University of Washington and say, this 332 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: is a worthwhile investment for my company to have Summer's 333 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 3: Eve on all of the University of Washington football jerseys. A. 334 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 3: So he you intentionally and you're ready to You're you're 335 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: ready to drop the whole budget. 336 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Like you intentionally named the University of Washington in here 337 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: to make this more polarizing of a topic. 338 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna douse water. 339 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw cold water on you right now, because 340 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Summer's Eve is not going to throw the budget at 341 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: the University of Washington football team. They would probably have 342 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: thrown it at the University of Iowa with women's basketball 343 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,479 Speaker 1: team last year because they want to market to and granted, 344 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: there are a ton of women who. 345 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: Any company would have, any company would have. 346 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So so I do think that that it's 347 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: got to make sense for their consumers more than more 348 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: than anything. And then also I think that there's gonna 349 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: be some like there has to be some brand co cohesion, 350 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: Like you can't just take any old money that walks 351 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: in the in the door just just because it's a 352 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: lot of money. 353 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: Oh, oh, I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you a team, 354 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: You give me a company, all right? I was Iowa 355 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: State Cat okay, Uh. 356 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: Miami, Oh, Tommy Bahama. 357 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Texas Christian University. 358 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Texas Christian University. Uh, some some hospital, some like hospital system. 359 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: Okay, last one, let's go with University of Colorado. 360 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: University of Colorado. Oh, they need a fun sponsor. 361 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: They need. 362 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: Uh, They're gonna end up with somebody like Ali Ali 363 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: Baba or you know, Wish or somebody like that, some 364 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: some obscure company that like you don't normally shop at 365 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: and you're like, what the hell is this? And then 366 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: you find out that the company is huge overseas and 367 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, okay, that makes sense. 368 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: Do you think Dion could make Timu cool? 369 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: Oh God, yes, Temu tamu or TB for the yes. 370 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: All right, So now on to the next thing. So 371 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: the there are new transfer rules. Ralph, can you explain 372 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: to the folks what's going on with the new transfer rules? 373 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: Because when I first saw it, I was like, hold up, 374 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: this is confusing because I'm out of fingers. 375 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So there was a federal laws who filed in 376 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: West Virginia that was essentially saying that NCAA transfer rules 377 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: unjustifiably restrained the ability of college athletes to engage in 378 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: the market for their labor as D one athletes. When 379 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: this was filed, it caused back in December a restraining 380 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: order to be put on anybody who was being held 381 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: out for things like a double transfer, which we know 382 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: that football players at University of Colorado, Arizona State, Florida State, 383 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: North Carolina last year all were losing time to this 384 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: and had to go through multiple NC DOUBLEA appeals. Some 385 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 3: people never got their seasons back. In the case of 386 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: North Carolina, I think devontees Walker ended up getting to 387 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: play the last eight nine games or something. But this 388 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 3: lawsuit ended up being settled and now you are able 389 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: to transfer without any restriction, so you can go from 390 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: school to school without having to sit out. And anybody 391 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: who has sat out a transfer year and is still 392 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: in college is going to get a year back, which 393 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: means guys like Cam Rising, who is about to play 394 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: his sixth year in college football but technically has three 395 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: separate four separate red shirts mixed in there because last 396 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 3: year didn't play due to injury. His freshman year he 397 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: only had one snap. He had a transfer sit out 398 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: in his first year at Texas, I don't believe he played, 399 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: so technically he could play seven years of college footb 400 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: because he's going to get a year back and he's 401 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: eligible now due to injury. 402 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: So dude, dude, if he goes back to college, and now, 403 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: mind you, that is a distinct possibility because let's say 404 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: if you're Cam Rising and you are not, so so 405 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: let's click this up for people. So people who sat 406 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: out in the nineteen twenty season, they can now get 407 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: a year of eligibility back. So that means that you're 408 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: gonna have that's nineteen twenty twenty twenty one, twenty one, 409 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty two, twenty three, twenty three, twenty four, 410 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five. So yeah, so guys who 411 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: are getting had sixty years could potentially get a seventh year. 412 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely. And then there's guys like Jake Smith who've 413 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: been held out for three years in a row because 414 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: he had to sit out transfer year, then he got hurt, 415 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 3: and then when he left without ever even practicing at USC, 416 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 3: the NCUBLEA called it a double transfer, so he got 417 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: held out last year at Arizona State. Jake Smith has 418 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: not played in three years. He's on its final year 419 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 3: of eligibility, but the NCUBLEA might give him one more 420 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: year back because of this. So I think some people 421 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 3: will be helpful for but h we we thought we 422 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 3: were at the end of guys four correct. 423 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: So but if you're Cam Rising, you are obviously twenty 424 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, like twenty four years old, and let's say 425 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: that you're not projected to be a first round pick. 426 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Let's say that he comes back with like a fourth 427 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: round grade or a third round grade. Yeah, but but Utah, 428 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: because you guys have a great season makes college football playoff. 429 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: They're like ay yo, Cam you want to come come back? 430 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Here's two million. What are you doing. 431 00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: Well? 432 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: And stay in or are you going? 433 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: It really depends to me on how loud all those 434 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: Big twelve schools boot him on the road. So if 435 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: I'm a if I'm a if I'm a Big twelve 436 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: fan in Utah comes to visit, I'm gonna be nice 437 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 3: because this man might come back. We want him going. 438 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: We want to I want you if if Cam Rising 439 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: came to my stadium I was a Baylor fan or 440 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: something like that, I'd be throwing roses on him. I'd 441 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 3: be a little golf clap every time he gets up 442 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: after taking a big hit. I don't want to see 443 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: him two more years. So but I mean, why if 444 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: you could? Why not? Why not? If you, you know, 445 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: let's say that you're not that interested in being an 446 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: NFL football player. Why not leave college with four degrees 447 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: and seven years of eligibility? 448 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're gonna. 449 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: Let you, yeap. 450 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: Hey, All right, now, let's get on to the kickoff times, Ralph, 451 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: because the kickoff times have started to be announced for 452 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: college football for this year and in the early season. 453 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: The funniest part about this is is that remember how 454 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: much that we talked about on the PAC twelve apostles 455 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: about the nine am kickoff games and how much. 456 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: In order to save the conference we might have to 457 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: kick off at nine am. 458 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people hated it, push pushed back on it. 459 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: And now what's happening, Ralph. 460 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: Well, they didn't save the PAC twelve. It broke up. 461 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: One of the schools that didn't find a home is 462 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: Oregon State, and I noticed that they've got themselves on 463 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: nine am kickoff time anyway, traveling too Boise State. The 464 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: fact that there's gonna be nine am kickoffs this year, 465 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: Number one, I feel bad for the fan bases that 466 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: are going to have to endure that, because that's tough. 467 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to be there, like you know, especially 468 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: the people who work at the stadiums are gonn to 469 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: be there four thirty five in the morning. That part's tough. 470 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: But I will say that I'm reveling in it a 471 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: little bit because I want you to also be miserable, George, 472 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 3: because I moved to the East Coast three years ago 473 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: and college football kickoff times have been kicking my ass 474 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 3: for thirty six months, and it's time for you to 475 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: also be mad. Oh, I'm not. 476 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: Gonna be mad because I am. I am. I'm up 477 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: and ready to go at that point in time. 478 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 2: So I'm good. But check this out. 479 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: You used to be able to run some errands, go 480 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 3: to depot, take some kids to practice. 481 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: Nope, nope, f them kids. F them kids on Saturday. 482 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 3: Oh all right, so don't you coach some of their sports? Hey? 483 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: Did what did I just say? F them kids? Man? 484 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: The scotsge football season. There there's commitment, Ralph, there's commitment. 485 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, they're making me sit that They're making me 486 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: eat cereal and watch college for exactly. 487 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: So here's the other part about these kickoff times is well, 488 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: these kickoffs that were announced, look at the Big twelve 489 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: just in week three alone, they're gonna have games on ESPN, Fox, ESPN, 490 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: two FS one, ESPN, U ESPN or ESPN, two, CBS 491 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: Sports and CBS all in the same week. So and 492 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: then when you look at the other conferences you're gonna have, Yeah, 493 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of SEC on the PAC 494 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: on ESPN. You got Fox with Fox has you know, 495 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Big ten games, acc Big twelve, Big ten, a lot 496 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: of Big ten. They got Mountain West with Oregon State. 497 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: They got SEC with Alabama and Wisconsin, and then you 498 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: can think about the amount of games on Peacock and everything. 499 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: So my takeaway from that is love it, Ralph. 500 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: I love it because the more college football games on, 501 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: you can watch them anywhere. You can watch them all Peacock, 502 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: you can watch them on NBC ABC, like, there's so 503 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: much more inventory is available, and I'm here. 504 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: For I'm excited too. I'm a little scared this year 505 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: because we put all our energy. For the most part, 506 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: we watched a lot of the big games, but all 507 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: my energy the last several years has been focused on 508 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: the PAC twelve. You know, I'm getting ready for an 509 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: eleven fifteen pm kickoff so I can watch Washington State 510 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: play Oregon State. And now, you know, I gotta I 511 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: gotta be paying attention to a lot more if we're 512 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: gonna not look like fools on this show. So I'm 513 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: I personally, I'm a little intimidated. I'm a little scared. 514 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: I am glad to not have to pay seven hundred 515 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 3: and twenty dollars a year for Sling anymore, just so 516 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: that I can have one channel. So I'm excited to 517 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: be saving that money and being able to watch watch 518 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: college football on all these networks that I do have. Yeah, 519 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 3: but I am a little bit intimidated by the amount 520 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 3: of college football that's going to be on and how 521 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: much it's spread out. 522 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to not have the Jimmy rigg My 523 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: like VPN. Make make sure it's on at home and 524 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: everything else to make sure I can watch. 525 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: Weren't you watching? Weren't you watching PAC twelve games on 526 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: like YouTube EU? Yes? 527 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: Yes, on the PAC twelve international feed. Hey man, listen, 528 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: I tried to get back twelve net network. It didn't work. 529 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: That's not my problem. Listen you you you should have 530 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: and that was the demise of the conference. They didn't 531 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: make it easily accessible. So that's not that I feel. 532 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: I feel no cares, I give no f's about it. 533 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of watching stuff, can I can I give? 534 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: Can I give you a little plug? Here? Go to 535 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: Unafraid show dot com. We got some videos up this week, 536 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: George Reister breaking down v ten college football quarterbacks that 537 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: will have the biggest impact on whether or not their 538 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 3: team appears in the College Football Playoff this year. We're 539 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 3: putting out content and shorts every single day on Afraid 540 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 3: Show on YouTube. Definitely, definitely check that out as we 541 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: gear up. We're one day away from June, which means 542 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 3: we're one month away from the Media Days, which means 543 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 3: we're two months away from some teams kicking off. It's 544 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: creeping up on us and we'll be putting a lot 545 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: of stuff up on Unafraid Show to get people ready 546 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 3: for the season. 547 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: Damn right, and you guys, that's the Unafraid Show. Pack 548 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: twelve apostles today, peace out, Catch you guys next week.