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Speaker 3: What are some of the challenges that people facing black

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Speaker 3: getting the same budget for their white counterparts, because I

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Speaker 3: don't think people have an appreciation of that.

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Speaker 4: Well, the very thing that those who are outside of

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Speaker 4: the Hollywood industry, that are in our community, that see

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Speaker 4: the challenges that we deal with every day as of people.

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Speaker 4: You know, we work twice as hard to get you know,

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Speaker 4: twice as less as our counterparts. Right, And that being said,

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Speaker 4: it's the same way we're not valued the way we

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Speaker 4: I believe we're supposed to be valued.

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Speaker 5: My graduates from my school being false. Back drop drop, Mike,

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Speaker 5: drop backdrop.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back, e y l. We're back home,

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Speaker 3: back in New York. And this is a legendary episode

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Speaker 3: because you're a legend with us.

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Speaker 2: This is legendary. This is a generational talent.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, Lorenz Tate, I think I first saw you

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Speaker 3: in Minutes to Society.

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Speaker 2: We gotta go back further than that.

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Speaker 1: What was further than that?

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Speaker 2: South Central? Oh wow?

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Speaker 1: Oh you know know what?

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you why Ogbby

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Speaker 2: Johnson the show, not the movie.

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Speaker 4: But okay, y'all both are right. So there was a

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Speaker 4: movie called South Central well.

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Speaker 1: Og Bobby Johnson legend.

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Speaker 6: That was the legendary too.

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Speaker 4: But Menace actually did come before for the TV show.

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Speaker 4: The TV show was.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know, the TV show Mia Campbell. Ah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was one of my favorites. She was out to her.

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Speaker 3: So so Laurent's tate. Man, it's what was that twenty

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Speaker 3: five years ago? Thirty years eighty three? Yeah, we're getting older, bro, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he still looks like he's seventeen. He is.

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Speaker 3: So it is an illustrious career, not only acting, but

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Speaker 3: directing as well and entrepreneur. We talked about investing variety

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Speaker 3: of the day, your passion for financial literacy. I know

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Speaker 3: you're a big advocate for your hometown in Chicago, and

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Speaker 3: one of these people have just remained consistent. It's extremely

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Speaker 3: hard to remain consistent in anything, but especially in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we know that.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's trials and stribulations and a lot of

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Speaker 3: people you don't see anymore. So you know, to see

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Speaker 3: you even now shout out to fifty and the whole

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Speaker 3: Power franchise.

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Speaker 3: That's dope. So we're gonna have a really dope conversation.

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Speaker 3: But first and foremost, thank you for joining us, app.

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Speaker 6: Sure and listen.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate the one welcome and having me here. I'm

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Speaker 4: a huge fan of what y'all are doing. You know,

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Speaker 4: we saw each other in LA at the Essence Black

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Speaker 4: time with y'all. I've been watching y'all and truly loving

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Speaker 4: what you all are doing, you know, for the community

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Speaker 4: it's pallable, right because oftentimes when we think about, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it's a beautiful thing

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Speaker 4: to see two brothers doing what y'all doing. Y'all been

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Speaker 6: It's just since venice.

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Speaker 7: Days and minutes like, oh oh man, you already don't

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Speaker 7: So I just want to give y'all brothers, y'all flowers and.

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Speaker 6: Salute to what you both are doing for all of

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate that man likewise to you, especially when

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Speaker 2: you said, menus, we can't forget that president's being in

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Speaker 2: and there's never been any controversy with you. It's just

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Speaker 4: And I've been really fortunate to have a career that

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Speaker 4: has spanned it over the length of time. Y'all just

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Speaker 4: mentioned Minutes to Society, which was my first seature film

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Speaker 4: back in ninety three, and I can't believe that it's

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Speaker 4: thirty years. It's like, where did the time go?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: And along the way, I've had some amazing life experiences.

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Speaker 4: There's been a lot of ups, there's been some downs,

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Speaker 4: uh highs and lows, But for me, I just always

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Speaker 4: wanted to do what I love to do and I

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Speaker 4: felt like it's a privilege. My mother and father always

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Speaker 4: said to me specific specifically, my father would tell my

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Speaker 4: brothers and I, you know, y'all are in this business

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Speaker 4: and whatever you do, you know, you you find your calling.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: I understood what the assignment was and run the marathon

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Speaker 4: and not the sprint, and so I'm still in that

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. I feel like you just got Darius love.

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Speaker 6: Oh yo, yo, you get I got some.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Every now and again, I'll fall in and out of

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Speaker 7: I might you you you might, You might get it.

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Speaker 6: You might get a little old dog in a minute.

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Speaker 7: You might get a little Anthony Curtis from Dead Presidents Life.

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Speaker 6: You mean life. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So so there's you know what I'm saying. There might

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, love it.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into this all right, financial literacy mistakes.

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Speaker 3: So we interviewed Steve Harvey. Legendary.

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Speaker 4: I love that interview, by the way, thank you. That

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Speaker 4: was like that was a legendary like interview. It was

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Speaker 4: so informative, it just was. It was amazing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, so one of the things that

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Speaker 3: he said was that, you know, there's really no blueprint

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Speaker 3: to follow in Hollywood. A lot of people make mistakes

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Speaker 3: as far as you know, having the manager, the agent,

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Speaker 3: the CPA, it's a lot to you know, keep track of,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you know where your money is going,

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Speaker 3: and you don't know what properly to invest in, then

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Speaker 3: I hear that from a lot of actors, like you

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Speaker 3: know that it's a very tough business because you might

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Speaker 3: for two years. And so what was your experience, What

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Speaker 3: has your experience been in Hollywood? What are some of

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Speaker 3: the mistakes that you have probably made, and what are

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Speaker 3: some of the lessons that you've learned as far as

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you pointed that out. The truth of

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Speaker 4: the matter is there's a lot of you know, highs

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Speaker 4: especially as a black actor, it's real cold. You would

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Speaker 6: It's cold, cold, And what happens is.

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Speaker 4: You know, we get a lot of money up front

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Speaker 4: So you get this money up front, but you're only

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Speaker 6: So your value to the bottom line.

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Speaker 4: When you're dealing with networks or studios, it's like how

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Speaker 6: But what happens is there's a lot of money going.

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Speaker 4: Out of the door, right, So you get this money,

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, you got agents, you got managers, you got

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Speaker 6: You have lawyers you have to pay, right.

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Speaker 4: a lot of money that's going out and let's not

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Speaker 6: Do you know what I saying?

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Speaker 4: So I was working. My first gig was in nineteen

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Speaker 4: The Twilight Zone. I was just watching this right right, right,

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Speaker 6: Professional paid gig.

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Speaker 4: I want to say maybe it was five hundred bucks,

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Speaker 4: but because I'm a minor, the money had to go

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Speaker 4: A portion of the money goes into account of however

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Speaker 2: The time is come, lady and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Now, But then the more money you make. So let's

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Speaker 4: say if you are a child star. I wasn't a

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Speaker 4: a little funny.

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Speaker 1: For me.

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Speaker 6: My parents never touch my money.

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Speaker 4: They just made sure that it was you know, anytime

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Speaker 4: I work on a little project, a guest star here,

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Speaker 4: And the more I, you know, developed a career where

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Speaker 2: La Chicago seventeen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I went to Chicago early.

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Speaker 4: So when I was not living in Chicago, when I

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Speaker 4: My father was going to school to get his another

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Speaker 6: For a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the neighborhood started changing on the West

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Speaker 6: And an interesting story how we even got.

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Speaker 6: You know those neighborhoods.

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Speaker 6: Where do we move? We moved right on West LA.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And it was crazy because we would uh when we

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Speaker 4: We were so confused by it, all right, And so

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Speaker 4: Old Dog, I was very clear of what the assignment was,

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Speaker 6: I've seen I've seen this.

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Speaker 6: Let's let me just give it. Just give you the script.

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Speaker 4: I'll flip it but getting back to the money side

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Speaker 4: of things again, I just always wanted to, you know,

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Speaker 4: find ways to save I got to a point, you

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Speaker 4: know where after you know, Dead Presidents and and Love

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Speaker 2: Are those the films where you start negotiating your own

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Speaker 6: Absolute?

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Speaker 2: Right, because like there was obviously Manisters was great, and

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Speaker 2: I feel it was Dead Presidence was ink Well in between.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it went it was min of Society, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like at that point after they saw

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Speaker 2: all right, now I know what I'm my worth is.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'm negotiating for this film.

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Speaker 4: It's probably Love Jones, Okay, because at that time I

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Speaker 4: remember talking to the president of new Line Centerment at

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Speaker 4: the time, Mike de Luca. He I was telling him like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I think I should get this amount of money, and

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Speaker 6: He was like, you know, I don't think you can.

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Speaker 6: That's not what.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, nah, I think I want to.

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Speaker 4: I think I deserve it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna come in, I'm going to do the work

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Speaker 4: just don't. It's just it's just not in the budget

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Speaker 4: we settled on that, and my agents you know, negotiated

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Speaker 4: But I then understood by the time I had gone

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Speaker 4: to other projects, you know, sometimes you would take either

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Speaker 6: You know, you want to do things for the culture

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Speaker 4: From my standpoint, then you know, by the time I

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Speaker 4: negotiate things. And if you have value, it's really great.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned before, you're good as your last project. So

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Speaker 4: studios and networks are like bottom line, they're really it's

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Speaker 4: about the business side of things, which oftentimes we as

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Speaker 4: a few things along the way in negotiating. I oftentimes

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Speaker 4: I know about basically what would be royalties, So you

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Speaker 4: there's where the real participation.

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Speaker 6: The ownership comes in.

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Speaker 4: And all the time I would think about, like what

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Speaker 4: about international, because I know some of these movies go

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Speaker 4: no overseas, only domestic.

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Speaker 6: You have there is there are no.

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Speaker 4: Deal points for international, And I would think why not?

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Speaker 4: only like one person, Will Smith, because I think he

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Speaker 4: what I mean to get that to get the bag

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Speaker 4: And I would go to, you know, overseas, I would

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Speaker 4: travel and I would think like no one knew who

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Speaker 4: I was because they said we weren't valuable over there,

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Speaker 4: like our movies don't do well, they don't sell them there.

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Speaker 6: But that was not the truth.

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Speaker 4: When you start traveling, you start saying, wait a minute,

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Speaker 4: I can't walk down the street and everybody knows.

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Speaker 6: The words to you know, my dialogue, to.

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Speaker 4: My films, but they don't even speak English, but they

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Speaker 4: know how to say, you know what you say about

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Speaker 4: my mama?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: They know you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: You know they know this stuff right, And so I'm

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Speaker 7: thinking aboutself. Something has to be off with that. And

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Speaker 7: so I discover that only certain people could get that

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Speaker 7: international back end, you know, participation, and how understood how

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Speaker 7: back end participation going to?

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Speaker 4: Where's the people getting all those royalties? It was the

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Speaker 4: studios and the producers. That is one of the things

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Speaker 4: that I learned. Oh, you don't want to give up

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Speaker 4: half of that and share that with me, because that's

466
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Speaker 4: generational wealth. You ain't gonna split that with me. You

467
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Speaker 4: give me enough to make me happy up front. But

468
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Speaker 4: when I hit that coal or Antarctica and I'm hitting

469
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Speaker 4: that glacier and I'm not getting those movies and I'm

470
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Speaker 4: not getting that deals, those residuals are important to me

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Speaker 4: to sustain my lifestyle. Or to sustain the things I

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Speaker 4: want to do. I want to send my children to college.

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Speaker 4: I want to give, you know, some opportunities for them

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Speaker 4: to start a business or whatever that is. I can't

475
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Speaker 4: do that. But those producers in those networks are those

476
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Speaker 4: studio heads. They got that locked down.

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Speaker 2: So at the time I'm trying to think, as you're

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Speaker 2: coming up, nobody's putting you onto the game, right, because

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Speaker 2: there are black actors like you mentioned this, Denzels Wesley,

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking Omar absolutely, said Samuel Jackson, Spike Lee's directing

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Speaker 2: at this time, even Cuba Gooding sure, like is anybody

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Speaker 2: away of this or is this?

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Speaker 4: Im sure they are, But a lot of the information

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Speaker 4: is not being passed around, right, And if the information

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Speaker 4: is being passed around, we don't know how to utilize it.

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Speaker 4: And I think that was part of one of the

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Speaker 4: things when you say the mistakes, like I didn't know

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Speaker 4: you know, how to like I didn't really understand, like

489
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Speaker 4: how could I negotiate that? But the argument would be

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Speaker 4: what does your last movie do? So now you're basing

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Speaker 4: it off that what did your last movie do? And

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Speaker 4: some things when it comes to films that are in

493
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Speaker 4: the box office, success may have nothing to do with

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Speaker 4: you at all. I might say, well, Love Jones didn't

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Speaker 4: do the numbers that they wanted to do in the

496
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Speaker 4: box office, you know, from a financial standpoint, but it

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Speaker 4: meant something to the culture.

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Speaker 1: Cultural.

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Speaker 3: So can you ask you this, As far as you've

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503
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Speaker 3: nobody really goes to the movies like that. I mean,

504
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Speaker 3: some movies still doing well in the box office, but

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Speaker 3: Even movies that have you know, like coming to America too,

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Speaker 3: where it is direct on one streaming service. Right, how

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Speaker 3: has that transition been like, just to observe it, how

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Speaker 3: has that affected Hollywood as far as the actors going

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Speaker 3: from big box office productions to movies that are tailor

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Speaker 3: made for Netflix and Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 6: I guys, you asked that.

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Speaker 4: It's a really good question, and it did affect us

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Speaker 4: because when we would negotiate points, you know, we was

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Speaker 4: really banking on the box office success, and once the

572
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Speaker 4: switch happened, we didn't really understand. No one understood what

573
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Speaker 4: that would look like and how these deals will be

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Speaker 4: put together. And now that's sort of the sort of staple.

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Speaker 4: Most people are watching things at their leisure on their

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Speaker 4: phones or at home streaming, and so you negotiate points

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Speaker 4: you know, back, and you know, you get whatever you're

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Speaker 4: going to get up front. And depending on what that

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Speaker 3: Do you think that it's hurt Do you think that

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Speaker 3: it has hurt the mystique of being that because growing up,

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Speaker 3: like going to the movies was such a big thing

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Speaker 3: and it was such it was such a big deal,

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Speaker 3: and now it feels like it's become less of that

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Speaker 3: because there's so much content out Like it's like music, right,

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Speaker 3: Like going to buy the album used to mean a lot,

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Speaker 3: and now there's so much music on Apple Music. That

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Speaker 3: Little Baby puts an album out, but then twenty one

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Speaker 1: It's just it kind of gets lost to me.

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Speaker 6: I feel like, I agree, it is sensory overload.

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Speaker 4: There's so much content out there, but you know, I

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Speaker 4: can't complain about it.

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Speaker 6: It's just what it is. It's nothing that we can

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Speaker 6: do to change it.

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Speaker 4: So you have to adjust and pivot and find a

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Speaker 4: way to be a part of it. So as opposed

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Speaker 4: to standing on the sidelines looking at the industry, change

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Speaker 4: and progress and evolve, jump in, you know, get involved

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Speaker 4: with the streaming services. Get involved with you know, podcast

602
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Speaker 4: or digital, get involved with you know, content that you

603
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Speaker 4: know you could be a part of and still be

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Speaker 4: able to make a living and do what you want

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Speaker 4: to do and love to do. And in some cases

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Speaker 4: it's okay to go with a streaming service for a

607
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Speaker 4: film or concept because there's no pressure of the box office,

608
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Speaker 4: so I start looking at it from that standpoint. There's

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Speaker 4: a demand for the content, and they're subscription driven. So

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Speaker 4: if I can help my movies that are on these

611
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Speaker 4: platforms can help subscribers, you know, tune in, then great.

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Speaker 4: For instance, you know we mentioned Power and the whole

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Speaker 4: Power universe. Shout out to fifty and Courtney Kemp and

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Speaker 4: everybody who's a part of that, Mark Canton, who are

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Speaker 4: behind you know, this incredible, huge show right that's you know,

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Speaker 4: on a premium network being Stars. Whereas like, you know,

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Speaker 4: subscription is crazy like that our show is a flag

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Speaker 4: ship show, Like it's driving a lot of subscriptions there

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Speaker 4: right in which we want to continue. And so there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of business to be done in that space.

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Speaker 4: And creatively, I think sometimes some of the better stuff

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Speaker 4: is actually on these streaming services, especially when it comes

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Speaker 4: to TV and TV series because you now can sort

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Speaker 4: of live with these characters. You can live with these stories, right,

625
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Speaker 4: and you get really lean into it. You don't have

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Speaker 4: to try to wrap everything up in a bow that

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Speaker 4: you might do in a movie. But I still think

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Speaker 4: that the box office is still very viable, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean. And because they're they're the studios and

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Speaker 4: the networks are getting money from the subscriptions and they

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Speaker 4: can put movies in the theaters. It's the house never loses.

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Speaker 4: The house is always going to win. It's like Vegas,

633
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Speaker 4: You'll find a way to win. So, you know, for me,

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Speaker 4: I think it's a great combination of both.

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Speaker 2: So when you talked about having a cold spell, this

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Speaker 2: pervial Siberia. For actors, I'm plenty of them go through

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Speaker 2: this at some point in their career. What are you

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Speaker 2: doing in that all time? Is this the time now

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Speaker 2: when you're creating? Are you investing? Are you saying like

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll start writing and what are the things that

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Speaker 2: are happening during this time when it's a colad spell?

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Speaker 6: Another very good question for me. I'm not sitting tight,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I got a wife and four children, right, I got

645
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Speaker 4: four sons, man and I got to you know, and

646
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Speaker 4: be prior to me even being married and having children.

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Speaker 4: My brothers and I will put our heads together, we

648
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Speaker 4: will huddle up and figure out, like how we gonna

649
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Speaker 4: get this money? Right, So we have to write, we

650
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Speaker 4: have to produce, we have to be a part of

651
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Speaker 4: telling our own stories in our narrative right, and there

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Speaker 4: needs to be other outlets. So again, where we are today,

653
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Speaker 4: we just have more opportunities, We have more outlets, so there's.

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Speaker 6: Really no excuses.

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Speaker 4: But there were times where it's like, man, how do

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Speaker 4: we how do we get this money? I'm gonna be

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Speaker 4: very honest. A lot of those things is because you

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Speaker 4: have value and your face card is right. You can

659
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: do appearances. You can sit and you know, some people

660
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 4: can show up and you know, sign autographs.

661
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 6: Other people can go and either.

662
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 4: Write a book, book tours, or you can actually find

663
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 4: ways in speaking engagements because your time is of value.

664
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 4: The fact that you have something to say, people will

665
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: come and so you find situations where people want you

666
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 4: to come to there, you know, events, if there's a

667
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: corporate situation where they feel like it would attract the

668
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 4: eyes and the ears of the people that they're targeting there,

669
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 4: certainly will will bring you in and you can find

670
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 4: a way to hustle that way. For me, it was

671
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: like always get something. My father would always say, oatmeal

672
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 4: is better than no meal.

673
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: Get it. You got to eat, you know what I'm saying.

674
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this Black Hollywood.

675
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: And We've been spending a lot of time in Black Hollywood,

676
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: so I'm hearing a lot of the same stories told,

677
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: like it's very tough, it's difficult, the budgets are not

678
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: the same. And you know a lot of people saying

679
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: the same thing for the outside people that's not in

680
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: that cluster, and they don't understand, like, what are some

681
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: of the challenges that people facing Black Hollywood as far

682
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 3: as getting a movie produced or not getting the same

683
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: budget for their white counterparts, because I don't think people

684
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: have an appreciation of that.

685
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: Well, the very thing that those who are outside of

686
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: the Hollywood industry that are in our community, that see

687
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: the challenges that we deal with every day as of people.

688
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: You know, we work twice as hard to get you know,

689
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: twice as less as our counterparts, right, and that being said,

690
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: it is the same way we're not valued the way

691
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: we I believe we supposed to be valued. So those

692
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 4: budgets are really important for us so that we can

693
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: have the kind of quality that we can present to

694
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: the consumer. And the smaller the budget, the more creative

695
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: you have to get. And we don't have resources off

696
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 4: oftentimes as our white counterparts. The real deal is we

697
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: don't own any platforms the way we should. There's a

698
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: few black owned platforms, but we don't have a lot

699
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 4: of outlets. We don't have as many, so we're not

700
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: sort of governing over these entities or these corporations to say, hey,

701
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 4: you guys have a great story, y'all want to tell it,

702
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: and there's money to be made, come here.

703
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 6: It's not as many.

704
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: So when we do find that those places, everybody's trying

705
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: to go through one keyhole. Everybody's trying to go through

706
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: one tunnel.

707
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 6: And even when you.

708
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: Go to non black owned places, they'll tell you to

709
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 4: go over there because you know, they have to find

710
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 4: value in what we do.

711
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 6: And that's changing quite a bit as we're you know.

712
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 4: Making it very clear and we're loud about it because

713
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: we have to that. I always say, and I talk

714
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 4: to execs in the industry in Hollywood that either look

715
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 4: like us, and particularly the ones who are not from

716
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: the black community. I tell people all the time, we're

717
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: not looking for handouts. We're not asking for any favors.

718
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: Black folks have earned the right to have the things

719
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: that we believe, right from what we've contributed in front

720
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 4: of the camera, what we've done behind the camera, the

721
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: things that we have done and changed the narratives and

722
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: we've taken the we've been able to do so much,

723
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 4: and we've made y'all a lot of money ten times,

724
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: one hundred times over in a real way. But also

725
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: the consumers black communities, black people support all movies, right,

726
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: so we have earned that. We have earned the right

727
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: to be at the table. We earned the right to

728
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: have the you know, decision making power. And oftentimes in Hollywood,

729
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 4: historically black folks don't govern over anything. We're in front

730
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: of the camera and it looks good. Give Black folks enough,

731
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: you know, to keep them quiet, but not enough to

732
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 4: make them a real difference or have a real impact

733
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: on the other side of things. And we want to

734
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: change that, you know, we don't want to just have

735
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: enough to keep us quiet but really not make a difference.

736
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: We're trying to really do something here, and we've earned

737
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: it on both sides. So now we have black entrepreneurs

738
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: and I don't mean to cut you off. Now we

739
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: have black entrepreneurs or black you know, companies that recognize that,

740
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: and they Hollywood has had to come together and be

741
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: a part of sort of you know, uh, the movement,

742
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: and because they understand, we bring a lot of money.

743
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 6: So you look at this, it's like, look at Black Panther.

744
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: That's That's where I was going, because what you're saying

745
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: is it takes for a black Panther and a right

746
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: Coogle to do that a billion dollar movie, do it again,

747
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: another billion dollar success on this way. And then you

748
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: hear like what Disney has a divisional Onyx and that

749
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: was focusing on black creators. And so I wonder if

750
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like it's a timing thing, right

751
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: even now, like you said, there's a cold time, but

752
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: now it's hot. It's a hot thing, and it's a topic.

753
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 6: It's a topic, right, and so now it.

754
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: Brings more creatives. But having just honest isn't enough, right.

755
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: I was going to the next point was like, heyman, yeah,

756
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: like exactly this Now this develops and it's like you've

757
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: been working for now. The timing of it makes sense.

758
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, because now we have executives who are

759
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 4: in these places now that are you know, the heads

760
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: of production in their heads of these companies and entertainment

761
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: companies that when I walk into a room, they understand

762
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 4: and it's not something that I have to you know,

763
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 4: beat them over the head about, like Okay, they get it.

764
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: And I'm not going to bring anything that's mediocre. I'm mean,

765
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 4: really believe I bring something that's quality or I won't

766
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: bring it at all. Right, But you mentioned Tapment Entertainment,

767
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: which is a production company, entertainment company that my brothers

768
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: Laarn and Lamar and I decided to put together years ago.

769
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 6: And we've had some cool deals.

770
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: You know, they'll go and give you a housing deal,

771
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: make sure that you're cool, make me pay you some money,

772
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: take care of you. But it's like, Okay, it's great

773
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: to be in there, and it's great to get a

774
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 4: little bit of that money. But we want to get

775
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: the product out there. We want to be able to

776
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: get the stories told. We want to be able to

777
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 4: make sure that the voices of the voiceless can be

778
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: heard and if we are those you know, the pathway,

779
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: and we're the conduits to do that. Then we really

780
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: need to see those who are like minded and understand

781
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: the bigger overall picture. And we want equity. It's more

782
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: than just you know, getting a project off the ground.

783
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 4: We want some ownership. And as we do business with

784
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 4: other you know, black entities, quality, you know, we're looking

785
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: for quality. We team up with the quality. We want

786
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: equity because that's what it's about. It is a business.

787
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 4: And so the fact that we recognize more of the business.

788
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: We walk into the rooms and we are aren't we

789
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: we we we know what we're doing.

790
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, dog was gonna come out, he's gonna

791
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: say we're on our ship.

792
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 6: I was about to we're about.

793
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure, my brother. Anything that you want

794
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: to make the public aware of any new projects, of

795
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: course you know your power, but anything you're working on.

796
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to talk about obviously Power Ghosts season three,

797
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: that's out, that's covered out.

798
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 6: It's going to be an incredible season. Coun Yes, counselman,

799
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 6: Rash tell you that's a connection.

800
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: And you know, can't give too much away, but I

801
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 4: can't say that we've elevated some things. We're definitely gonna

802
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: you know, see counselman tape up to his Shenanigan got

803
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 4: to do that.

804
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be.

805
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 7: You know, there's gonna be some ud. Yeah, it's a

806
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 7: backdoor deals, it's a you know, the nonsense going on.

807
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 7: And no, I'm excited about it. It's it's it's a

808
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 7: it's a.

809
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: Great body will be sacrificed, absolutely mandatory, it has to happen.

810
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: But I'm excited about this season and what the whole

811
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: Power Universe is representing. What else we got We my

812
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: brothers and I actually are working on a docu series

813
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: about social injustice, about the marginalization of specifically black people,

814
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: and we are filmed it in Chicago, right We've been

815
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: working on the West Side and the South Side Chicago,

816
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: really just showing, you know, why some of the things

817
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 4: are happening, but beyond why are the things happening in

818
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: terms of the marginalization of us and our community, what

819
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: are the solutions? And we are trying to create something

820
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: that allows the people who are going through what they're

821
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: going through to come up with the solutions. Oftentimes there's

822
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: people who are behind the scenes or off to the side,

823
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: who is not even we're not even from the community

824
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: deciding what is best for those who are dealing with

825
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 4: the deal with it. But guess who knows the people

826
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 4: who have been able to survive, the people who have

827
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: been able to overcome those.

828
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 6: Hurdles and those pitfalls and those land mines.

829
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 4: So we wanted to create something that allows the voices

830
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: of those who are dealing with it to tell us

831
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: what the solution is and let's figure that out. So

832
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: we're also involved with some redevelopment, you know, we have

833
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 4: to call it redevelopment, but basically there's gentrification in the

834
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: hood and I'm like, yo, hold up, how can we

835
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: be a part of that, you know, redevelopment because it's

836
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 4: really important and as you know, with gentrification, you know,

837
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: it's valuable land, it's valuable you know, communities, but they

838
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 4: displace those who inhabit it, and it's particularly black folk,

839
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: black and brown people, right, And so we're like, how

840
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 4: can we find this social equity? How can we find

841
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: opportunities to keep you know, to redevelop it, get all

842
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: the amenities housing, affordable housing, you know, businesses that the

843
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: people who live there could take part and they're not displaced, right,

844
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 4: And we can create businesses and we can create you know,

845
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 4: schools and museums. And this is not like sort of

846
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: like a pipe dream. It's like it is attainable. It happens.

847
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 4: It just doesn't happen with us often. So we're doing

848
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 4: all the things that we can to be a part

849
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: of that. We're dealing with developers and architects and lawyers

850
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: and you know, financial people that you know look like

851
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: us that we could be a part of the narrative

852
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 4: to redevelop and help buy back the block.

853
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 2: You had my last thing, you had a successful odio series.

854
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: Yes, so Bronsville represents that and that's wart of that. Yeah,

855
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 4: we have more of that.

856
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: You know.

857
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 6: Bronsville is sort of a road map, if you will.

858
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: The actual story is like a story of the mind

859
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 4: where you can like hear like this podcast, right, but

860
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: we scripted it.

861
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 6: There's characters in it.

862
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 4: And it takes place in the nineteen thirties nineteen forties

863
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: on the South side of Chicago in a community called Bronsville,

864
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 4: where black folks were self sufficient and the way that

865
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: they became self sufficient financially was running numbers. Other communities

866
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 4: were you know, bootlegging, when doing liquor and all that stuff.

867
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: During Prohibition, black folks we were running numbers. And what

868
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: happened was as a result of creating this economic infrastructure,

869
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: they began to invest in the community. So these people

870
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 4: will call policy kings, decided to invest into like the

871
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 4: first black owned bank, the first department store in Chicago

872
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: that was black on the grocery stores, and we had

873
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: this metropolis of a community where we had our own

874
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: police departments when we policed ourselves, and we had our

875
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: own grocery stores and butcher shops where people would look

876
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: out for each other. And I felt like we got

877
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 4: away from that, and we want to tell the story

878
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: of how we can get back to that because it

879
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: is attainable for us as black folks to unite, thrive

880
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 4: and have a true uh part of the piece of

881
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: American dream.

882
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 2: Sounds for men, shatty are people telling our story?

883
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: You have it legendary. Appreciating my brother. I'm sure we'll

884
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: be crossing path soon.

885
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a build.

886
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm here to Actually, I told you I was gonna listen.

887
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 4: I was talking in front of my mouth. But we're

888
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: gonna We're gonna offline We're gonna definitely sit and talk

889
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: with us.

890
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 6: I would love you all to be a part of

891
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 6: the things that we're doing and building.

892
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: I would like to learn more from you all and

893
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: how we can you know, join forces and get this money.

894
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the only what is in the cars

895
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: for us?

896
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh, we headed to Holly talk about that too.

897
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 6: I got y'all. You know, I got entertainment company.

898
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: Let's get the deals done. Yes up? All right, guys,

899
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: thank you for rocking with us. We'll see you next week.

900
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: Peace peace.

901
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: There you have it.

902
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to thank you for being

903
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: the leading man to some of these leading ladies.

904
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 7: Okay, this is Halle Berry. Yes, this is this. This

905
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 7: this is can we can see you're just doing as

906
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Speaker 7: some others.

907
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 6: This this is some bonus stuff.

908
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna start with Halle. Okay, let's start

909
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: my favorite of course alone. Okay, I ran into it.

910
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say. Jada multiple times

911
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: and at the time Vivi Fox, But I mean, and

912
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna count this because it was a video, but

913
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: a wow.

914
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been fortunate. I've been fortunate.

915
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Did I miss it?

916
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: Probably She's probably the best one out of that.

917
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: Group, I said, halle Berry. Bro Currently, currently, no, I

918
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: said me alone.

919
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 6: Bro, Currently, I'm just I'm gonna fly on the wall.

920
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: I said me alone, Brom. Just after that, you can't currently,

921
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: So the questions shann he's bad, She's for forty one.

922
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: Nia's fifty. It's a different level, Bro, that's a different level.

923
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: But the question, I love the conversation. The question was

924
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: this is there. I got a couple of questions. But

925
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: is there a leading lady that you haven't worked with

926
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: that you you inspired to work with? Oh?

927
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would love to work with Sonnah.

928
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: Layton, She's she's not on that list.

929
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've not worked with Sonai, and there's a few

930
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: of the ones that are that are amazing. But just

931
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: thinking about all the women we talked about that you

932
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: mentioned Hallie.

933
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: Vivoca, Leila Rashwan, but you know Jada, who else? Did

934
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 6: you say? Nia Long? Obviously clean?

935
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 7: Nia?

936
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, Sonai is someone I was able

937
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 4: to work with, Regina Hall. I would also love to

938
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: work with Regina King. Regina King that.

939
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: She was in Girls Strip, But you guys, yeah, whiz

940
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 2: the girl it was kind of you know, I didn't

941
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: put I knew that, but she.

942
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, yeah, so yeah, but I would love

943
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 4: to work with some of those sisters.

944
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: Incredible that. The other part of it was we saw

945
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: the success of The Best Man becoming a series, sure,

946
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: and so I wonder, like, did the opportunity even be

947
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: presented to have love Jones in that format?

948
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: Of course, it's not the many times you know, just

949
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: you know, there's been so many conversations about how Nia

950
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: Long and I should get back together.

951
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't even I could play the same role like that.

952
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 4: Look, it's been, it's been. The conversation has been had

953
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: many many times for many many years. Yeah, because the

954
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 4: movie is so iconic and it's been such a staple

955
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 4: in the community about how black Love means so much

956
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 4: to us and how you know, just the movie itself

957
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 4: was very u we start various level had.

958
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: Had a brown leather book that I was right. I

959
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 2: thought they was Ron's, but they turned into.

960
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 6: Point nine recording.

961
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: My brother actually was like doing spoken words, so he

962
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: and I would just be there watching him. I'm like, yo,

963
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: this is that's the impact of movie.

964
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was.

965
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: It was a thing so Nia Long and I'm just

966
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: just trying to figure it out, but I think something

967
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 4: has to happen. I'm not quite sure what that is

968
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: where I can say right now, but the conversation of

969
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: Love Jones has happened, and we just here's the deal.

970
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: If you can't do it that justice, like take it

971
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 4: to the next level, you got to leave it alone.

972
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 6: Find something else, so you know, we'll see what happens.

973
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: This is the last thing. Yeah, last thing is this recording.

974
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: This is not recording, it's recording, yell the black actor

975
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: American actor. I feel like there's been a decline the

976
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: British invasion. The British invasion has taken over the days

977
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 2: of you guys like you more or like the guys

978
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 2: I mentioned are far in between. Like, but you guys

979
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: still doing it. But I don't see the next like

980
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: rendition of the black male actor because of the British invasion.

981
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts, Listen, I've I don't look at

982
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 4: the it as a competition.

983
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 6: I look at the collective.

984
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 4: So you know, there's brothers who are doing it, whether

985
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: they're doing it here, yeah, in America, whether they're doing

986
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 4: it you know, over from the UK or even from

987
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: the Mother Continent Africa.

988
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 6: I'm cool with whatever it's going to be.

989
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: But I feel like Hollywood believes there's more value.

990
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 6: In British black actors than they do Black actors.

991
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: And I think a part of it goes into that, oh,

992
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 4: they have an audience over there, so they translate.

993
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 6: Internationally.

994
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: Going back to that, what I think is, you know,

995
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 4: a hoax that we don't sell or we don't we're

996
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 4: not valuable. So I think they put that in the mix.

997
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: And also I just think Hollywood is just in love

998
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: with the UK and all things, you know, British, and

999
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: so I feel like the black American actor is you know,

1000
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: I see what that decline is.

1001
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: But you know, we here, you're here, yeah, yellow, Yeah.

1002
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 6: But I love the collective.

1003
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: So those guys are killing it.

1004
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: They're killing it, you know. You know, listen, my heart

1005
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 4: ain't pumping no kool aid. I know what I stand on.

1006
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. You know, it's blood run

1007
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 6: through these things. You know what I'm saying. It's the

1008
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 6: cold as ice, bro. So we're gonna be all right,

1009
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