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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's almost Famous podcast. We're here today with one of

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Speaker 2: our favorite people in the world, uh, Susan Knowles. Susan,

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Speaker 2: we have so much talk to you about, but I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna kick it off with this. I just interviewed Demy

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Speaker 2: about the show you both were on, Got to Get Out.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she said you were her comfort? Is her? Ohoat?

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Speaker 3: That true?

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Speaker 4: I was her mommy, I adopted her.

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Speaker 5: What they didn't show was me on my hands and

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Speaker 5: knees begging her for forgiveness because I didn't ask.

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Speaker 4: Her to escape with me once time she got upset,

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Speaker 4: she was good. She is just too cute. She's Barbie.

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Speaker 3: She is Barbie. Put her in a box.

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Speaker 6: She is so freaking cute. Okay. So, for those of

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Speaker 6: you who haven't listened to the Demi interview that Ben did,

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Speaker 6: Got to Get Out is a Hulu show, and Clara's

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Speaker 6: on it, Susan's on it, and Debbie's on So those

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Speaker 6: are our people, along with a whole bunch of other

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Speaker 6: A list reality stars and some random people. And it's

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Speaker 6: a competition to win as much money as possible. But

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Speaker 6: like you do so by escaping a house.

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Speaker 4: Well, you get a clue.

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Speaker 3: You need a clue, your clue.

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Speaker 6: Wait, why do you need a clue to escape the house?

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Speaker 4: Well, you can't just escape, So all the windows are

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Speaker 4: locked and you go.

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Speaker 5: Into this ticket room and they either they say no

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Speaker 5: exit strategy or you get a clue, which I happened

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Speaker 5: to get quite a few screwed them up, but like.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them, you're good at this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is obviously a whole new We've been

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Speaker 2: around you a lot of the last year and a

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Speaker 2: half since you've been on the show. This is obviously,

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Speaker 2: I think your first time entering into another reality show. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: Demy had great things to say about this show. But

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Speaker 2: from your experience, how was this show different than The Bachelor?

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Speaker 4: For starters, they were way more lenient.

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Speaker 5: We would get our phone in the afternoon for like

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Speaker 5: twenty minutes to check in with family or agents or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was chill.

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Speaker 5: It was so fun and I wasn't competing for a

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Speaker 5: man and to find love. I was making meatballs and

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Speaker 5: dancing with val from Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when you're not escaping, like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 5: You're watching the windows to see if somebody else is So,

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Speaker 5: if you watch the show towards the end, after I

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Speaker 5: tell Rashan he's dead, to me, I go, all right,

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Speaker 5: people haven't seen the side of me. I'm playing defense

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Speaker 5: because nobody's getting out now, because I have the chance

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Speaker 5: to split.

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Speaker 4: The money at the end. Yeah, now I flew. I'm

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Speaker 4: the oldest person in the house. I went from the

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Speaker 4: roof through one hundred.

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Speaker 5: And ninety degree attic, down two flights of stairs to

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Speaker 5: hit that button because nobody was going to escape.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me this kince of the show. Demmy

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Speaker 2: described it terrifically. The concept of the show. That was fun,

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Speaker 2: that's like hearted. That drama isn't the focused of what

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Speaker 2: is aired on television. She did add something interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: She said that there it was a dry house, no.

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Speaker 4: Alcohol involved, no alcohol none.

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Speaker 3: How did you feel about that?

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Speaker 5: That didn't bother me, although I had to have something

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Speaker 5: brought in because I made chicken pikati and I need

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Speaker 5: white wine.

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Speaker 4: And what's her name, Jim? What the house was?

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Speaker 5: She was like she was going through convulsions, and I said,

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Speaker 5: come here, come in the kitchen, sneak.

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Speaker 4: A little.

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Speaker 6: All right, that's so interesting. Why would they make it

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Speaker 6: dry For a reality show, sometimes you need a little

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Speaker 6: something to spice it up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it was spiced up because you start as

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Speaker 5: friends and then you start second guessing people, and then

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Speaker 5: I just remember calling somebody Judas.

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Speaker 3: Because it sounds amazing.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 5: I had a blessed so I didn't understand. When they

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Speaker 5: do their edit, that's their business. But all of our challenges,

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Speaker 5: I wish those challenges were sure you would not believe

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Speaker 5: what we did.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm allowed to say what we did,

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Speaker 4: so I'll try. Yeah, we'll try tell us something. I

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Speaker 4: straight jackets. That's what I'll tell you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's perfect.

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Speaker 4: Now you have you gotta get out of them. Locked

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Speaker 4: up with Demi, we were the third pair to get

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Speaker 5: You know what, I hated all these women that were

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Speaker 5: on the show, especially that Athena. I mean that body

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Speaker 5: she was, the way she dressed. She came up to

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Speaker 5: me a couple of nights before it was over, saying,

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Speaker 5: why doesn't anybody pick me? She comes to breakfast, we're

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Speaker 5: all having coffee and the guys and Morosa.

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Speaker 4: In the morning, she comes walking.

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Speaker 5: I go, that's why you got stilettos on a skin

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Speaker 5: tight neglige.

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Speaker 4: Where the hell are you running? Go on? Where's your sneakers?

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Speaker 4: So I paid attention to my packing list. It was mortified.

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Speaker 4: Every woman on there.

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Speaker 5: Looked amazing, not me. I had do rad sneakers. I

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Speaker 5: was ready to run. I didn't know what I was

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Speaker 5: up again. If I have to do it again, I'm

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Speaker 5: bringing the gown.

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Speaker 4: I mean seriously.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the beauty of this and this question is

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Speaker 2: leading us into the second chapter of what we want

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about today. But one of the

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Speaker 2: fun parts about talking to Demi was finding out who

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Speaker 2: surprised her. Now, obviously you didn't know the other contestants

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Speaker 2: when you signed up for the show. You should walk

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Speaker 2: into the mansion, you see a group full of reality

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Speaker 2: television rookies along with reality television a listers. Who surprised

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Speaker 2: you the most outside of Demi? Because we've talked to

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Speaker 2: Demi on your connection with them, your vibe with them.

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Speaker 5: Definitely, Val Val and I we were Bonnie and Clyde.

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Speaker 4: When I got on the US. We weren't allowed to look.

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Speaker 5: At anybody, and I saw him and we did one

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Speaker 5: of these each other, like the thumbs up, like I

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Speaker 5: know you.

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Speaker 3: Oh you knew him before this, Yeah, we knew. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, I've been to Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 5: been begging to get on that show. That's what I

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Speaker 5: put out to the universe.

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Speaker 4: Baby, all right, all right, that is coming, that is coming,

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Speaker 4: that is coming my way.

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Speaker 6: Give me like it might be. Because we were assuming

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Speaker 6: you would be on Paradise, that would be your next step.

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Speaker 4: But today, yes, you see why I.

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Speaker 6: Have announced that you will not be on Paradise basically

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Speaker 3: I mean, is this bummy?

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Speaker 5: It does bumm me out since I wanted to be

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Speaker 5: and see everybody, but I can't honestly say I'm looking

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Speaker 4: I'm not. I have it. Yeah, and I waited how

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Speaker 5: There's some struggles. You know, he lives far away. It's

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Speaker 5: a long distance and a language thing.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, where does he live.

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Speaker 4: He lives in Saint Martin. He's been there ten years.

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Speaker 4: He's from France and A means yes, I'm learning and pati.

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Speaker 6: So you have said that there is the language barrier

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Speaker 6: and that you guys use a translator app to do

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Speaker 6: a lot of your communication.

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Speaker 4: When we call each other every night. It's Skype. But

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Speaker 4: what Skype words? Tell me?

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Speaker 5: I go big, you're not saying this there. I take

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Speaker 5: doesn't work that well, but he speaks a lot of English.

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Speaker 4: Now he does really well.

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Speaker 5: He'll get stuck here and there, but if it's something

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Speaker 5: he'll go, this is important.

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Speaker 4: And we go and get our phones. So we make

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Speaker 4: sure we get it right. It's blasted. We laugh like crazy,

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Speaker 4: we dance like crazy.

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Speaker 3: He's me, this is beautiful. Now. How many times have

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Speaker 5: So I've been back since I met four times, and

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Speaker 5: I'm going back next Sunday for the fifth time.

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Speaker 4: A lot. So I got hurt there. We were hiking.

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Speaker 5: His son was going to surf, and you parked the

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Speaker 5: car up an on smart Sell and it's a twenty

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Speaker 5: and puffing, but I make it and almost there and

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Speaker 5: break my fall and oh MyD ooh, just oh my darling,

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Speaker 5: give me your hand, I said, no, oh.

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Speaker 4: I think I broke it.

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Speaker 3: I broke it.

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Speaker 5: It took an hour and ten minutes to get back

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Speaker 5: to the car to get to the hospital.

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Speaker 4: It was a nightmare. I just said surgery. It's nuts.

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Speaker 2: I have some good memories from Saint Martin. By the way,

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Speaker 2: there's the worst place you could go and visit somebody.

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Speaker 2: I had my It wasn't my first, but it was

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Speaker 2: my first big outing with alcohol on Orient Beach.

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Speaker 4: I love Orient. Yeah, so what happened, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It's a wild day, especially because it's a nude beach.

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Speaker 3: My memory of it.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's topless there. Anyhow, it's frede.

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Speaker 3: Saint Martin is an amazing place to go visit.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: This makes me happy for you. But I'm really sad

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Speaker 3: we're not going to see you on other beaches.

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Speaker 4: Why, oh, flick Paradise Beach.

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Speaker 6: You'll make an appearance.

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Speaker 5: I just need a different show now, I mean, you

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Speaker 5: can't stop me now.

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Speaker 4: I love this.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised to see you on Dancing with

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Speaker 6: the Stars, especially since you've been dance practicing with your

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Speaker 6: boyfriend who you met on Tinder and Real Vacation and.

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Speaker 5: Naty and I went away. We go every year. I've

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Speaker 5: been going to Saint Martin every year for a long

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Speaker 5: long time. And Kathy and I this was our second year.

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Speaker 5: Nancy didn't come this year, and she went to bed.

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Speaker 5: I had an espressor Martini after dinner, and I'm laying

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Speaker 5: in bed, going, oh great, I can't sleep. I'm playing games,

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Speaker 5: and I went, let me try Tinder downloaded it first

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Speaker 5: one I saw swiped and I got off and I

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Speaker 5: didn't go back on it for three days. When I

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Speaker 5: did immediately, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 6: What did he say?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember.

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Speaker 6: Were you scared about meeting a man on a foreign island.

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Speaker 4: Kathy was?

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Speaker 5: She gave me a hard time girlfriend. Oh, he wasn't

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Speaker 5: allowed in the house. I made her come on the

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Speaker 5: first date to translate a little bit, because she speaks

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Speaker 5: a little bit of French. I put a video out

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Speaker 5: when those two were trying to communicate. Kathy talked to

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Speaker 5: him in Spanish, French and English, and you see Frederic

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Speaker 5: Getty Getty these one language, just one.

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Speaker 4: And she interrupts him. It's Kathy. But she ended up.

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Speaker 4: She loves him now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was it wasn't easy, he said, I

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Speaker 5: hope Number one do you like to dance? Number two,

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Speaker 5: I hope your French is better than my English. And

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Speaker 5: number three bring ear pods? I said, oh, I could dance,

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Speaker 5: and I have EarPods. The other so when I got there,

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Speaker 5: he took my phone, he put an app on there

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Speaker 5: and we communicated. Kathy left after about five to ten minutes,

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Speaker 5: and we sat for three and a half hours talking

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Speaker 5: and I finally, you know it's me, I said, Tim,

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Speaker 5: you know where I come from. When I go to

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Speaker 4: I can't even tell you we'll color your eyes or

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Speaker 4: you start cracking up.

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Speaker 5: I think that was the moment that we really connected

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Speaker 5: because we both thought that was funny. And he started

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Speaker 5: holding the phone up next to his ear.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was good.

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Speaker 3: It was good, Susan, this is incredible. Will need to

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Speaker 3: celebrate this.

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Speaker 6: Did he know you were famous?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: No? The next day because he went over and probably

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Speaker 5: googled me. We did the WhatsApp thing and he was

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Speaker 5: sending me pictures of myself and I'm like, where, where,

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Speaker 5: what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Are you googling me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair he has to do his research,

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Speaker 2: all right, Susan, If you had forty five seconds to

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Speaker 2: tell listeners why they should watch Got to Get Out,

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Speaker 2: what would you say?

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Speaker 4: I can't make this shut up what I do on

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Speaker 4: that show.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you will not even believe the stuff that

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Speaker 5: I do, and not even on purpose, like I'm just me.

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Speaker 5: So you saw me on Golden Bachelor, unapologetically authentically Susan.

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Speaker 4: Wait till you see this one.

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Speaker 3: I love it. That's so good.

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Speaker 2: I Got to get Out premiered April eleventh on Hulu.

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Speaker 3: You can find it streaming right now.

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Speaker 2: All the episodes are out there, so go and binge it,

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Speaker 2: go and watch it one at a time. But you'll

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Speaker 2: see Susan do things that are unapologetically her and out rageous.

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Speaker 3: Has your man come to visit you yet?

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Speaker 4: Not yet?

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Speaker 5: Because I got hurt there and then I went to

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Speaker 5: rehab there. I mean he took care of me like

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Speaker 5: no other and he cooks like you don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I miss you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Bye, Susan, Bye, honey.

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Speaker 6: Well hell people, that has been Susan Knowles one of

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Speaker 6: the most entertaining figures that have ever come into Bachelor

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Speaker 6: nation so grateful for you. Thank you. We'll see next time,

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Speaker 6: and until that time, I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 3: And I'm in Ben. We'll talk to you soon.

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