WEBVTT - Taking on Queen City | The Beatdown Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:13.239 What is up? 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:13.920 What's going on? 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.400 Commanders fan? This is the Beatdown Podcast. I'm Zach Selby, 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.600 your host, senior writer for the Washington Commanders, and Bob's 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.079 still no doubt about it, still feeling good about ourselves. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.040 But the Commanders did drop their first loss in about 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:29.880 a month, thirty to twenty three to the Baltimore. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.560 Ravens on the road. A good game. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.120 They had a chance to win there, but there were 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.160 a few key mistakes here and there that ultimately led 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:38.680 to their demise. But they have a good chance to 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.800 bounce back coming back on the Northwest Stadium to take 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.640 on the Carolina Panthers who are one and five but 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.240 still pesky team, still in the NFL, team still full professionals, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.320 and they can still be anybody at any time. And 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.239 how they're gonna be able to bounce back, well, that 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:54.320 is exactly what we're gonna be able to talk about today. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.200 And with me we have Wandermera who is part of 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.920 the Spanish broadcasting for US, and we also have a 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.320 former Commanders alum here. It is a full time employee 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.200 of staff alum here, Logan Campbell. She used to work 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.280 for US as a team reporter back in twenty twenty, 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.959 but she is now a sports anchor and porter for 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.200 WFMY out in North Carolina. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:15.680 How are we doing, y'all? 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:16.640 We're doing good. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.720 At least I'm doing good over here on the Commander's side. 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.640 I don't know how it's going down there in North 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:22.640 Carolina right now. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:23.120 Yeah. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.000 I was gonna say, the vibes might be high for 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.919 you guys, but they are not very high for us. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.720 Here in Charlotte. So this game is. 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.200 Gonna be fun, you know, being a former Commander I 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.600 used to work there and being a Commander fan that 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.200 having to cover it, it might be a totally different story. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.479 Baron personally, how are the vibes logan? Are you doing 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:41.760 all right? 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:42.240 Personally? 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.720 Oh? Fantastic, the best that they have been in years, Zach. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.400 So it's been so fun getting to watch the Commanders 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.080 this year. It's like a new energy up there. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.440 Yeah, no, you know, it really is. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.840 And Guinea be a part of this has been, you know, 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.040 such a surreal feeling because right now it's we've usually 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.360 been like either one or two and four or something 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.560 like this heading into week seven, but now we're kind 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.840 of the talk of the league and that's a new 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.760 experience that I'm not really familiar with, but I'm loving 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:09.600 every second of it. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.080 I haven't seen a mock draft yet. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.639 Like other years, I've already checked out mock drafts and 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.359 other years, and this year we haven't done that yet. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.360 So we're yeah, we're more We're more focused on playoff 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.080 seating right now, which is even listen even in a 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:31.400 little too too ahead of ourselves ex But anyway, so. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.680 The listeners know the spiel, they know the deal. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:36.000 But for you guys, you're gonna be asking me questions 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.200 about about the game on Sunday, you guys are going 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.440 to debate, and since it's my show, I have the 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.760 tremendous burden rested on my shoulders to pick a winner. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.840 But at the same time, the viewers know and the 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.639 listeners know that you should not focus too hard on 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.720 the outcome, be more focused on the objective and important 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.560 information that these people are providing. Because they are team insiders. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.280 They know the team there's respective teams better than anybody 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:07.120 and without further ado, let's dive right into it. So, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:12.880 the the Carolina defense has really been struggling a little bit. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.520 Needless to say, they're in the bottom third of just 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:19.519 about every single category, whether it's past total defense of 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.040 yards allowed, rushing yards. I think they think they're second 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.480 to second or third to last, and league rushing yards allowed. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.320 But at the same time, they do have some really 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.360 solid players on their team, like Jase Horn is a 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.560 really really good player leading a talented secondary, albeit still 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.600 struggling a little bit. And you know they're their defensive 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.120 their defensive line has you know, there's some there's some 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.400 solid players on my team, maybe playing a little bit 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.320 out of position in terms of where they will be 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:45.280 on respective depth charts. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.640 They hadn't been so banged up. Uh So, Logan, since. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.360 You are you are the the other teams, guess we'll 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:52.480 let's you start first here. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.160 What do you think the biggest threat to. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.880 Washington's offenses on this command on this Carolina defense? Because 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.040 the Washington off as you know, has been playing on 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.360 a historic rate so far, even with the twenty three 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.200 point performance they had against the Ravens. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.600 Yes, that is a high flying offense. Look, Zach, I 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.480 mean you touched on it. This defense is terrible. The 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.280 Panthers even know that this defense is terrible. We talked 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.720 to j C. Forran after their loss to the Atlanta. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.600 Falcons, and he said, straight up, it's embarrassing how bad 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.320 our defense has been this year. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.200 I mean, yes, they've had some huge injuries. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.880 You know, Derek Brown has a season ending injury, a 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.560 defensive tackle that was, you know, making maybe masking the 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.760 problems a little bit more. Jadavian Clowney might not be 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.000 able to play. He's out at practice but not going 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.560 through the motions. He's just stretching for the first time today, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.800 so he's questionable to play on Sunday. Jack Thompson, their 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.640 biggest linebacker is out, so there's lots of problems. 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:53.960 On the defensive side of the ball. I think the. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.920 Biggest threat honestly Zach because it's not on the caroline 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.680 of Panthers. The biggest threat is if Jeremy Chin or 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.080 Frank people who decided mid game, Hey, you know what, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.440 I want to go back to Carolina. I want to 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:05.880 put in my old teammates. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:06.200 You know. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.160 I think the Panthers defense it is what it is. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.640 I don't know if they're going to get much better Personally. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.120 I don't think that there is a huge threat to 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.280 the Commander's offense with what they're able to do this season. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.240 Yeah, you know, it's I think that the Panthers are 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.400 They're on pace at least from what I've heard, that 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.119 they're on pace to be the most scored against team 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.960 in at least like the longest and maybe even league 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:37.599 history right now. I mean they're they're averaging dead last 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.240 at thirty three point eight points allowed per game. I 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.320 think they've had thirty points allowed and eat to the 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.120 last three contests and Juan Barring, as Logan said, the 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.760 rare end game trade. Uh, you know, I want to 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.880 focus on on j C. Horn a little bit because 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.320 he probably is I would say, like you know, with 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.680 all with Darrick Brown and Shaq Thompson and all those 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.400 other players. They even banged Upper out for the year, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.919 like he probably is like their best defensive player right now. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.719 Aout to Madden, He's gonna see a lot of Terry McLaurin. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.960 So how do you think that matchup is going to 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.600 play out a lot? Because Terry does he does match 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.479 up well against a lot of different corners. He knows 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.279 how to play against you know, gazone, he does against 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.440 more physical, man coverage corners. How do you expect that 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.800 matchup between Terry and Horn to work out on Sunday. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:30.880 I expect Kingsbury to probably do some sort of like 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.680 the Skuises in the beginning. I seem to think that 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.120 Kingsbury he likes to start off with little screens just 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.120 to set up test the defenses, to see what type 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.200 of defense they're going to play against Terry or specifically 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:46.120 all the receivers in the running backs. But either way, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.520 I mean J. C. Horn is by far their best 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.880 defensive player. He is the biggest threat on their defense. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.000 I mean, he's got six pass breakups already on the year. 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:55.640 He's got the pick. 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.080 I think definitely he could interrupt Washington's game plan a 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:00.480 little bit. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.320 But at the end of the day, you know who 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:03.960 would have thunk it. 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.120 You know, Washington has too many weapons, I think for 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.720 this defense if you stop, you know, Terry McLaurin on 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:10.360 the outside. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:11.960 We saw Zach. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.560 Ertz get it a little bit involved in the game 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.400 against Baltimore. It seems to be that they find different 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.680 flows throughout the game where maybe you know, on one 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.679 drive it'll be Ertz, maybe on one drive it'll it'll 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.520 be Eckler, or it'll be maybe even sometimes Dimmie Brown. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.240 There's just options on this team, right, you know, it's 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:34.080 not the household names that you will think of, and 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.360 that maybe the rest of the league knows. But at 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.520 the end of the day, these guys are getting it done. 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.040 They're executing a plan that Kingsbury is you know, focusing 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.920 on during the week and right now, right now is 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:46.960 running like a well oiled machine. And I think the 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:51.080 biggest threat to them against the Carolina Panthers is self 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.440 inflicted wounds like we saw it against the Giants, right 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.720 We saw it here in the red zone against the 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.840 Giants where they ran. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.560 Up and down the field on the Giants. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.400 They got into the red zone so many times and 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:03.720 they had to settle for field goals. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.680 So you just got to finish drives, you know, keep. 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:09.000 The mental awareness up and not be their own worst 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:10.240 enemy on offense. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.680 That's kind of where I'm at too, And I think 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.320 and to your point about about spreading it out, you know, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.760 to the different receivers. Thirteen players have caught, have have 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:24.040 had a target for this, for this, for this commander's offense. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.239 So Jade Daniels is doing a phenomenal job ats spraying 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.640 the ball around and spraying the wealth and you know, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.319 it's it's funny like during the off season, lot of 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.760 people were wondering if there were enough weapons for Jayden 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.600 to to effectively run this offense, and it turns out 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.679 when you have a guy like him, it doesn't really 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.240 matter all that much because he's able to get it out. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:43.880 And then Cliff Kingsbury obviously has done a ver good 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.360 job of getting players open. But Logan, I'll go back 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.720 to you here because I think if there's anything we've 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.880 learned we can learn from the Ravens game, is that 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.199 the running game is so important to the Washington offense. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.160 They were coming in the league second behind the Ravens 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.439 and rushing yards per game. Ryan Robinson goes out, and 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.520 of course there are other factors involved with this, but 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.480 they average I think they're around like fifty two yards 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.920 after that game, which it really disrupted their their game 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.800 flow quite a bit. And again, like you know, the 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.079 Ravens have an excellent defense to stop in the run, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.560 so it's not all on the commander's self afflicted wounds there. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.800 But I would imagine, you know, the Carolina Panthers are 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.880 going to try their best to stop Brian Robinson, assuming 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.160 he's going to be available or you know, Austin Eckler, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.440 Jerry maybe Nichols. They're going to try to do something 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.600 to whether it's blitzing or doing some many different stunts. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.880 Like how do you expect them to address this rushing 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.240 attack that has a really good offensive line, really solid 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.400 staple of running backs. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.360 Yeah, I know, you know. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.600 The main talk though honestly, it hasn't even been about 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.200 their running game though for the Panthers that which is 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.199 a problem. You know, they're not even acknowledging that. They're 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.160 just more worried about containing Jade and Daniels. They're so 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.439 worried about Jade and Daniels. You know, he is a 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.640 dual threat quarterback going on these big runs they're having 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.240 Bright's young and late Jaden Daniels, which I don't think 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.520 you can even do that because he is so good 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.000 and practice to try and get this defense prepared. But 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:09.960 I think that's one thing that you mentioned. The run 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.719 game is so big for Washington. I don't know how 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.040 they are planning on addressing that because they're so focused 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.959 on Jaden Daniels. Unfortunately, but like we said, their defensive 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:23.240 line just isn't as as good as it could have 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:24.920 been with all the injuries that they've had. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.480 So you know, I think, you know, stacking. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.520 The box a little bit more that would be helpful, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:33.280 you know, having I don't know who's going to even 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.200 replace Shack Thompson. I know they've mentioned mixing up personnel 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.000 this week to just try and get something defensive going 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.280 and creating these turnovers. So I think the biggest thing 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.640 is the turnover battle. If they can create turnovers, that's 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.840 gonna help. But for the Panthers, what we've seen this 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.000 year is if they don't play a perfect game on defense, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:55.520 they're not gonna win. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.280 So that's a great question. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.280 I don't I don't know how they're gonna plan for 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.760 it to attack this Washington's offense. 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.520 I simply don't know. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.160 You know, And I really, I really am curious about 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.000 that because I don't. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:10.199 I don't. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:11.280 I'm not really sure that. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.200 Even like you said, I don't even sure they know. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.959 Because if you if you don't have Brian Robinson, you've 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.120 got Austin Eckley, who's gonna bust a fifty yard run. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.840 You have Jeremy Nichols, who's really underrated I think in 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.520 terms of how he's been able to perform. Uh. And 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.160 you know, I was a big fan of Jeremy McNichols 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.080 going into training camp. I think he's been really really 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.560 key to this this running game. And on top of that, 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.880 like to the point about the turnover battle, I mean, 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.679 Washington is they've only given up the ball three times, 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.680 which is you know, that's that's the second fewest in 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.920 the league. So the commanders do a very good job 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.360 protecting the ball. And if if the commander is able 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.120 to do that again on Sunday, it's gonna be very hard. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.160 One real quick just contacting the running game a little 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.120 bit before we move on to the next question. How 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.120 big is having Brian Robinson back going to be for 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:56.760 this offense. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.600 As much as they downplayed it going into the game 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.240 against the Ravens, I think it was huge. You know, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:07.960 he absorbs hits, you know, he he takes on defenders 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.480 like defenders have to pay attention to him. That there 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.000 was some a few runs where Eckler, you can see, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:19.600 you know, his vision probably you know, let him down 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.160 a little bit and maybe Robinson probably would have been 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.240 able to get some more yards and some of those runs. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.080 So I definitely think it was a huge part. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.160 I mean, obviously the Ravens were going into the game 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.760 number one against the rush and Carolina is not the case, right, 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.960 definitely not. But at the same time, if you're going 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.320 to focus all your attention on Jaden Daniels and the 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.160 RPO game, like, then just feed it to Robinson all 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:44.640 day long. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.720 I think he'll get his well then to go off 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:48.040 of that. 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:51.160 Last week against Atlanta, their two running backs had combined 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.160 three hundred yards, so you would think they would address 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.839 the running game after last week's game. But again, the 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.240 talk is just a bit about Jayden Daniels. So yeah, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.760 if I'm Washington, I'm feeding it to be rod the 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:04.480 entire time. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.920 You know, I think that's probably I mean, you just 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.120 look at the stats and they just they just point 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.920 to exactly that, right, Like, I mean, you cannot find 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.200 two more diametrically different defense as opposed to what you 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.079 were seeing with the Ravens versus what you were gonna. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.440 See with the Panthers. The Panthers are on the opposite 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.480 end of the spectrum trying to defending their run. 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.400 And you know, with Jane Daniels, like you said, Logan 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.959 being so dynamic and just about every part of that offense. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.480 It's really hard to focus on anybody but him because 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.760 he really does make that that offense go because of 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.840 how smart he is, how Poisy is in the pocket. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:38.920 We're gonna move on to the next question, but first 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:40.240 before we do that score update. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.560 You guys are tied four to four. Uh so, really 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.240 big battle here between you guys with the points. I 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.760 really like the points they all began so far. But 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.520 we're gonna move on to another part of the game here, 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.480 which I think is a really big blow for the Commanders. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.000 They lost Jonathan Allen with the torn pactor muscle. He's 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.120 gonna be done. He's on ir GO under undergoing surgery. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.440 But it does create kind of a hole for for 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.959 this for this uh, for this defense, because of how 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.280 you know, reliable he is, his mindset, his leadership. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.680 It's I mean, there's no other way the way to say. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.120 It is a loss, and I expect the Panthers are 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.240 gonna try to take advantage of that, especially with which 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:17.440 Cuba Hubbard is running. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:18.000 Uh. 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.840 You know, with Andy Dalton still, you know, I think 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.240 he's probably not the best quarterback right now, but he is. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.400 He is a veteran who knows how to run that 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:26.920 offense and do it more effectively. I guess you could 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.800 say than than Bryce Young. Uh so, one, we'll start 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.000 with you first here, And how do you think the 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.760 Panthers are gonna try to take advantage of that that 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.120 hole in the defensive line, especially with how well their 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.280 running game has been going over the last few games 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:39.480 or so. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:41.560 Uh you mentioned it. 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.720 I think Cuba hubbard Is is definitely where this offense 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.200 has to go through. Ever since they made the Q 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.680 Beach change, like it's been night and day their rush game. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.680 You know, obviously they have Dalton back there, but it's 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:01.080 it all goes through Cuba, and especially right now if 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.960 you're playing Washington on the other end, Like if you're 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.680 playing against Washington, people like to say, oh, you know, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.160 they're only ranked twenty second against the rush, but I 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.600 like to see more of the yards per rush, so 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.960 when they want to run on us, they will run 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:20.320 on the Commanders. Like they're averaging five yards per carry against, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.160 which is twenty ninth in the league, Which means if 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.560 Carolina keeps this game close and is still able to rush, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.920 they might be able to pick up some good yards 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.280 chunk yards in the running game and that will open 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.320 up the play action game. And you know our secondary 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.680 hasn't been exactly lighting it up either, So definitely, I 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.720 think it all starts through the ground, which chub Hubbard, 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.680 and the interior of the offensive line, which is pretty 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.520 good with Lewis and Hunt at the guard positions. I 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.720 think they have a formidable challenge the Washington defensive line 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:53.640 this league. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:54.760 They really do. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.040 And the band is off the line is I think 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.440 by far their best position. Really address that in the offseason, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.120 and their numbers probably aren't. They don't scream that they're 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.280 one of the better units, but if you just watch them, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.600 they're Their interior, like you said, is just full. 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.040 Of these big, nasty dudes. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.880 Who they're they're They're about a stereotypical of an offensive 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:14.560 line as you would you would expect them to be. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:15.200 Uh. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.680 But Logan, I want you to focus specifically on Cuba 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.200 here because if you just look at his stats, he 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.880 really is running hard. I think he's fifth and yards 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.160 over expected right now, He's averaging about five yards of care. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.280 He's really running hard making that offense go for them. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.600 What about Cuba makes it? Makes him such a focal 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.160 point of that offense. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.040 Before we get to that, I do have some breaking 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:41.640 news for you guys, Tod Clowney Toll reporters today right 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.840 now that he does not expect to play on Sunday, 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:50.560 So there's another hole in our defense. Anyways, let's try 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:51.640 and talk about the positives. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.320 Chuba Hubbard. He's having a great season. Listen. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.640 I saw him during training camp. He would stay an 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.800 hour after practice was over, just putting in work, getting 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.720 an extra rep. So he he is one of the 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.280 hardest workers on this team, without a doubt, and that's 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.879 clearly paying off because he is a bright spot in 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.560 this offense. Like you said, like we've seen him go 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.159 on some big runs this season. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.320 But the problem becomes when. 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.920 Cuba is doing well, for whatever reason, they decide to 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.520 switch up the offense and start throwing thirty yard bombs 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.520 down the field, which ended up getting intercepted. We saw 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:31.040 that happen twice last game against Atlanta, so you know, 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.040 he he is the focal point of this offense. It 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.960 is sad, but they do need to keep feeding Tuba 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:38.800 the ball. They're going to run him into the ground, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.359 but he's the one that gets this team going and 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.840 moves them down the field and. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.440 If you look at his his like rushing like totals, 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.280 like I don't think he has a He only has 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.760 like three plays that are over twenty yards and not 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.199 on the ground, but he just has He kind of 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:55.800 reminds me of b Rob a little bit with how 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.879 like physically he is at a lot of scrimmage. 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.040 Yeah, he just needs the offensive line that Washington has 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.480 now and then you know, maybe he will be at 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:04.960 that next level like b Rob is. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.000 Playing at and that and that commit that Carolina Panthers 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:09.800 offensive line is a little banged up, which is going 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.480 to be probably be a pretty big factor into this game. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.000 So one going into like you can't really replace a 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.720 guy like Jonathan Allen one to one, but there are 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.560 a lot of guys who are probably gonna have more 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.159 expanded roles, and one of them is going to be 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.520 Johnny Newton, who talked in the locker room, I think 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.640