1 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: What is up? 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: What's going on? 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: Commanders fan? This is the Beatdown Podcast. I'm Zach Selby, 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 3: your host, senior writer for the Washington Commanders, and Bob's 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: still no doubt about it, still feeling good about ourselves. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: But the Commanders did drop their first loss in about 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: a month, thirty to twenty three to the Baltimore. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Ravens on the road. A good game. 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: They had a chance to win there, but there were 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: a few key mistakes here and there that ultimately led 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: to their demise. But they have a good chance to 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: bounce back coming back on the Northwest Stadium to take 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: on the Carolina Panthers who are one and five but 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: still pesky team, still in the NFL, team still full professionals, 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: and they can still be anybody at any time. And 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: how they're gonna be able to bounce back, well, that 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: is exactly what we're gonna be able to talk about today. 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: And with me we have Wandermera who is part of 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: the Spanish broadcasting for US, and we also have a 20 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: former Commanders alum here. It is a full time employee 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: of staff alum here, Logan Campbell. She used to work 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: for US as a team reporter back in twenty twenty, 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: but she is now a sports anchor and porter for 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: WFMY out in North Carolina. 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: How are we doing, y'all? 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: We're doing good. 27 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: At least I'm doing good over here on the Commander's side. 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: I don't know how it's going down there in North 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: Carolina right now. 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, the vibes might be high for 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 5: you guys, but they are not very high for us. 33 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 6: Here in Charlotte. So this game is. 34 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 5: Gonna be fun, you know, being a former Commander I 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: used to work there and being a Commander fan that 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 5: having to cover it, it might be a totally different story. 37 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: Baron personally, how are the vibes logan? Are you doing 38 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: all right? 39 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Personally? 40 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 5: Oh? Fantastic, the best that they have been in years, Zach. 41 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 5: So it's been so fun getting to watch the Commanders 42 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: this year. It's like a new energy up there. 43 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you know, it really is. 44 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: And Guinea be a part of this has been, you know, 45 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: such a surreal feeling because right now it's we've usually 46 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: been like either one or two and four or something 47 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: like this heading into week seven, but now we're kind 48 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: of the talk of the league and that's a new 49 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: experience that I'm not really familiar with, but I'm loving 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: every second of it. 51 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a mock draft yet. 52 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 4: Like other years, I've already checked out mock drafts and 53 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: other years, and this year we haven't done that yet. 54 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: So we're yeah, we're more We're more focused on playoff 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: seating right now, which is even listen even in a 56 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: little too too ahead of ourselves ex But anyway, so. 57 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: The listeners know the spiel, they know the deal. 58 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: But for you guys, you're gonna be asking me questions 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: about about the game on Sunday, you guys are going 60 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: to debate, and since it's my show, I have the 61 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: tremendous burden rested on my shoulders to pick a winner. 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: But at the same time, the viewers know and the 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: listeners know that you should not focus too hard on 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: the outcome, be more focused on the objective and important 65 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: information that these people are providing. Because they are team insiders. 66 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: They know the team there's respective teams better than anybody 67 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: and without further ado, let's dive right into it. So, 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: the the Carolina defense has really been struggling a little bit. 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: Needless to say, they're in the bottom third of just 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 3: about every single category, whether it's past total defense of 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: yards allowed, rushing yards. I think they think they're second 72 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: to second or third to last, and league rushing yards allowed. 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: But at the same time, they do have some really 74 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: solid players on their team, like Jase Horn is a 75 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: really really good player leading a talented secondary, albeit still 76 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: struggling a little bit. And you know they're their defensive 77 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: their defensive line has you know, there's some there's some 78 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: solid players on my team, maybe playing a little bit 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: out of position in terms of where they will be 80 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: on respective depth charts. 81 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: They hadn't been so banged up. Uh So, Logan, since. 82 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: You are you are the the other teams, guess we'll 83 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: let's you start first here. 84 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: What do you think the biggest threat to. 85 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: Washington's offenses on this command on this Carolina defense? Because 86 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: the Washington off as you know, has been playing on 87 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: a historic rate so far, even with the twenty three 88 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: point performance they had against the Ravens. 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: Yes, that is a high flying offense. Look, Zach, I 90 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 6: mean you touched on it. This defense is terrible. The 91 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 6: Panthers even know that this defense is terrible. We talked 92 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 6: to j C. Forran after their loss to the Atlanta. 93 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 5: Falcons, and he said, straight up, it's embarrassing how bad 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 5: our defense has been this year. 95 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 6: I mean, yes, they've had some huge injuries. 96 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: You know, Derek Brown has a season ending injury, a 97 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 5: defensive tackle that was, you know, making maybe masking the 98 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: problems a little bit more. Jadavian Clowney might not be 99 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 5: able to play. He's out at practice but not going 100 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 5: through the motions. He's just stretching for the first time today, 101 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: so he's questionable to play on Sunday. Jack Thompson, their 102 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 5: biggest linebacker is out, so there's lots of problems. 103 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 6: On the defensive side of the ball. I think the. 104 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 5: Biggest threat honestly Zach because it's not on the caroline 105 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 5: of Panthers. The biggest threat is if Jeremy Chin or 106 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: Frank people who decided mid game, Hey, you know what, 107 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: I want to go back to Carolina. I want to 108 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: put in my old teammates. 109 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: You know. 110 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 5: I think the Panthers defense it is what it is. 111 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: I don't know if they're going to get much better Personally. 112 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 5: I don't think that there is a huge threat to 113 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 5: the Commander's offense with what they're able to do this season. 114 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's I think that the Panthers are 115 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: They're on pace at least from what I've heard, that 116 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 3: they're on pace to be the most scored against team 117 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: in at least like the longest and maybe even league 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: history right now. I mean they're they're averaging dead last 119 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: at thirty three point eight points allowed per game. I 120 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: think they've had thirty points allowed and eat to the 121 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: last three contests and Juan Barring, as Logan said, the 122 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: rare end game trade. Uh, you know, I want to 123 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: focus on on j C. Horn a little bit because 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: he probably is I would say, like you know, with 125 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: all with Darrick Brown and Shaq Thompson and all those 126 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: other players. They even banged Upper out for the year, 127 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: like he probably is like their best defensive player right now. 128 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 3: Aout to Madden, He's gonna see a lot of Terry McLaurin. 129 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: So how do you think that matchup is going to 130 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 3: play out a lot? Because Terry does he does match 131 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: up well against a lot of different corners. He knows 132 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: how to play against you know, gazone, he does against 133 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: more physical, man coverage corners. How do you expect that 134 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: matchup between Terry and Horn to work out on Sunday. 135 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: I expect Kingsbury to probably do some sort of like 136 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: the Skuises in the beginning. I seem to think that 137 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: Kingsbury he likes to start off with little screens just 138 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: to set up test the defenses, to see what type 139 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: of defense they're going to play against Terry or specifically 140 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: all the receivers in the running backs. But either way, 141 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: I mean J. C. Horn is by far their best 142 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: defensive player. He is the biggest threat on their defense. 143 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: I mean, he's got six pass breakups already on the year. 144 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: He's got the pick. 145 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: I think definitely he could interrupt Washington's game plan a 146 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 4: little bit. 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know who 148 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: would have thunk it. 149 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: You know, Washington has too many weapons, I think for 150 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: this defense if you stop, you know, Terry McLaurin on 151 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: the outside. 152 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: We saw Zach. 153 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 4: Ertz get it a little bit involved in the game 154 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: against Baltimore. It seems to be that they find different 155 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: flows throughout the game where maybe you know, on one 156 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 4: drive it'll be Ertz, maybe on one drive it'll it'll 157 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: be Eckler, or it'll be maybe even sometimes Dimmie Brown. 158 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: There's just options on this team, right, you know, it's 159 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: not the household names that you will think of, and 160 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: that maybe the rest of the league knows. But at 161 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: the end of the day, these guys are getting it done. 162 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: They're executing a plan that Kingsbury is you know, focusing 163 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: on during the week and right now, right now is 164 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: running like a well oiled machine. And I think the 165 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: biggest threat to them against the Carolina Panthers is self 166 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: inflicted wounds like we saw it against the Giants, right 167 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: We saw it here in the red zone against the 168 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: Giants where they ran. 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Up and down the field on the Giants. 170 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: They got into the red zone so many times and 171 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: they had to settle for field goals. 172 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: So you just got to finish drives, you know, keep. 173 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: The mental awareness up and not be their own worst 174 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: enemy on offense. 175 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: That's kind of where I'm at too, And I think 176 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: and to your point about about spreading it out, you know, 177 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: to the different receivers. Thirteen players have caught, have have 178 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: had a target for this, for this, for this commander's offense. 179 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 3: So Jade Daniels is doing a phenomenal job ats spraying 180 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: the ball around and spraying the wealth and you know, 181 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: it's it's funny like during the off season, lot of 182 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: people were wondering if there were enough weapons for Jayden 183 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: to to effectively run this offense, and it turns out 184 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: when you have a guy like him, it doesn't really 185 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: matter all that much because he's able to get it out. 186 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: And then Cliff Kingsbury obviously has done a ver good 187 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: job of getting players open. But Logan, I'll go back 188 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: to you here because I think if there's anything we've 189 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: learned we can learn from the Ravens game, is that 190 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 3: the running game is so important to the Washington offense. 191 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: They were coming in the league second behind the Ravens 192 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 3: and rushing yards per game. Ryan Robinson goes out, and 193 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: of course there are other factors involved with this, but 194 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: they average I think they're around like fifty two yards 195 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: after that game, which it really disrupted their their game 196 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: flow quite a bit. And again, like you know, the 197 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: Ravens have an excellent defense to stop in the run, 198 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: so it's not all on the commander's self afflicted wounds there. 199 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: But I would imagine, you know, the Carolina Panthers are 200 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 3: going to try their best to stop Brian Robinson, assuming 201 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: he's going to be available or you know, Austin Eckler, 202 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: Jerry maybe Nichols. They're going to try to do something 203 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: to whether it's blitzing or doing some many different stunts. 204 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: Like how do you expect them to address this rushing 205 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: attack that has a really good offensive line, really solid 206 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: staple of running backs. 207 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, you know. 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 5: The main talk though honestly, it hasn't even been about 209 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 5: their running game though for the Panthers that which is 210 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 5: a problem. You know, they're not even acknowledging that. They're 211 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 5: just more worried about containing Jade and Daniels. They're so 212 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 5: worried about Jade and Daniels. You know, he is a 213 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: dual threat quarterback going on these big runs they're having 214 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 5: Bright's young and late Jaden Daniels, which I don't think 215 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: you can even do that because he is so good 216 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: and practice to try and get this defense prepared. But 217 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 5: I think that's one thing that you mentioned. The run 218 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 5: game is so big for Washington. I don't know how 219 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: they are planning on addressing that because they're so focused 220 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 5: on Jaden Daniels. Unfortunately, but like we said, their defensive 221 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: line just isn't as as good as it could have 222 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: been with all the injuries that they've had. 223 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 6: So you know, I think, you know, stacking. 224 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: The box a little bit more that would be helpful, 225 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 5: you know, having I don't know who's going to even 226 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 5: replace Shack Thompson. I know they've mentioned mixing up personnel 227 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 5: this week to just try and get something defensive going 228 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 5: and creating these turnovers. So I think the biggest thing 229 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: is the turnover battle. If they can create turnovers, that's 230 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: gonna help. But for the Panthers, what we've seen this 231 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 5: year is if they don't play a perfect game on defense, 232 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: they're not gonna win. 233 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 6: So that's a great question. 234 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: I don't I don't know how they're gonna plan for 235 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: it to attack this Washington's offense. 236 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 6: I simply don't know. 237 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: You know, And I really, I really am curious about 238 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: that because I don't. 239 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: I don't. 240 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure that. 241 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: Even like you said, I don't even sure they know. 242 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: Because if you if you don't have Brian Robinson, you've 243 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: got Austin Eckley, who's gonna bust a fifty yard run. 244 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: You have Jeremy Nichols, who's really underrated I think in 245 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: terms of how he's been able to perform. Uh. And 246 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: you know, I was a big fan of Jeremy McNichols 247 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: going into training camp. I think he's been really really 248 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: key to this this running game. And on top of that, 249 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: like to the point about the turnover battle, I mean, 250 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: Washington is they've only given up the ball three times, 251 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: which is you know, that's that's the second fewest in 252 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: the league. So the commanders do a very good job 253 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: protecting the ball. And if if the commander is able 254 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: to do that again on Sunday, it's gonna be very hard. 255 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: One real quick just contacting the running game a little 256 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: bit before we move on to the next question. How 257 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: big is having Brian Robinson back going to be for 258 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: this offense. 259 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: As much as they downplayed it going into the game 260 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 4: against the Ravens, I think it was huge. You know, 261 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 4: he absorbs hits, you know, he he takes on defenders 262 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: like defenders have to pay attention to him. That there 263 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: was some a few runs where Eckler, you can see, 264 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: you know, his vision probably you know, let him down 265 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: a little bit and maybe Robinson probably would have been 266 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: able to get some more yards and some of those runs. 267 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: So I definitely think it was a huge part. 268 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Ravens were going into the game 269 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: number one against the rush and Carolina is not the case, right, 270 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: definitely not. But at the same time, if you're going 271 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 4: to focus all your attention on Jaden Daniels and the 272 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: RPO game, like, then just feed it to Robinson all 273 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 4: day long. 274 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: I think he'll get his well then to go off 275 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: of that. 276 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 5: Last week against Atlanta, their two running backs had combined 277 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: three hundred yards, so you would think they would address 278 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 5: the running game after last week's game. But again, the 279 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 5: talk is just a bit about Jayden Daniels. So yeah, 280 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 5: if I'm Washington, I'm feeding it to be rod the 281 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: entire time. 282 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: You know, I think that's probably I mean, you just 283 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: look at the stats and they just they just point 284 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: to exactly that, right, Like, I mean, you cannot find 285 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: two more diametrically different defense as opposed to what you 286 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 3: were seeing with the Ravens versus what you were gonna. 287 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: See with the Panthers. The Panthers are on the opposite 288 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: end of the spectrum trying to defending their run. 289 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: And you know, with Jane Daniels, like you said, Logan 290 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 3: being so dynamic and just about every part of that offense. 291 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: It's really hard to focus on anybody but him because 292 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: he really does make that that offense go because of 293 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: how smart he is, how Poisy is in the pocket. 294 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna move on to the next question, but first 295 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: before we do that score update. 296 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: You guys are tied four to four. Uh so, really 297 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: big battle here between you guys with the points. I 298 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: really like the points they all began so far. But 299 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: we're gonna move on to another part of the game here, 300 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: which I think is a really big blow for the Commanders. 301 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: They lost Jonathan Allen with the torn pactor muscle. He's 302 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: gonna be done. He's on ir GO under undergoing surgery. 303 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: But it does create kind of a hole for for 304 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 3: this for this uh, for this defense, because of how 305 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: you know, reliable he is, his mindset, his leadership. 306 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: It's I mean, there's no other way the way to say. 307 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: It is a loss, and I expect the Panthers are 308 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: gonna try to take advantage of that, especially with which 309 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 3: Cuba Hubbard is running. 310 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 311 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, with Andy Dalton still, you know, I think 312 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: he's probably not the best quarterback right now, but he is. 313 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: He is a veteran who knows how to run that 314 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: offense and do it more effectively. I guess you could 315 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: say than than Bryce Young. Uh so, one, we'll start 316 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: with you first here, And how do you think the 317 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: Panthers are gonna try to take advantage of that that 318 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: hole in the defensive line, especially with how well their 319 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: running game has been going over the last few games 320 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: or so. 321 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: Uh you mentioned it. 322 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: I think Cuba hubbard Is is definitely where this offense 323 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: has to go through. Ever since they made the Q 324 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: Beach change, like it's been night and day their rush game. 325 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: You know, obviously they have Dalton back there, but it's 326 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: it all goes through Cuba, and especially right now if 327 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: you're playing Washington on the other end, Like if you're 328 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: playing against Washington, people like to say, oh, you know, 329 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: they're only ranked twenty second against the rush, but I 330 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: like to see more of the yards per rush, so 331 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: when they want to run on us, they will run 332 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: on the Commanders. Like they're averaging five yards per carry against, 333 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 4: which is twenty ninth in the league, Which means if 334 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: Carolina keeps this game close and is still able to rush, 335 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: they might be able to pick up some good yards 336 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: chunk yards in the running game and that will open 337 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: up the play action game. And you know our secondary 338 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: hasn't been exactly lighting it up either, So definitely, I 339 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: think it all starts through the ground, which chub Hubbard, 340 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 4: and the interior of the offensive line, which is pretty 341 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: good with Lewis and Hunt at the guard positions. I 342 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: think they have a formidable challenge the Washington defensive line 343 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: this league. 344 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: They really do. 345 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: And the band is off the line is I think 346 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: by far their best position. Really address that in the offseason, 347 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: and their numbers probably aren't. They don't scream that they're 348 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: one of the better units, but if you just watch them, 349 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: they're Their interior, like you said, is just full. 350 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: Of these big, nasty dudes. 351 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: Who they're they're They're about a stereotypical of an offensive 352 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: line as you would you would expect them to be. 353 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 354 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: But Logan, I want you to focus specifically on Cuba 355 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: here because if you just look at his stats, he 356 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: really is running hard. I think he's fifth and yards 357 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: over expected right now, He's averaging about five yards of care. 358 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: He's really running hard making that offense go for them. 359 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: What about Cuba makes it? Makes him such a focal 360 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: point of that offense. 361 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 5: Before we get to that, I do have some breaking 362 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: news for you guys, Tod Clowney Toll reporters today right 363 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: now that he does not expect to play on Sunday, 364 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 5: So there's another hole in our defense. Anyways, let's try 365 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: and talk about the positives. 366 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 6: Chuba Hubbard. He's having a great season. Listen. 367 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 5: I saw him during training camp. He would stay an 368 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: hour after practice was over, just putting in work, getting 369 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 5: an extra rep. So he he is one of the 370 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: hardest workers on this team, without a doubt, and that's 371 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 5: clearly paying off because he is a bright spot in 372 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: this offense. Like you said, like we've seen him go 373 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 5: on some big runs this season. 374 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 6: But the problem becomes when. 375 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 5: Cuba is doing well, for whatever reason, they decide to 376 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 5: switch up the offense and start throwing thirty yard bombs 377 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: down the field, which ended up getting intercepted. We saw 378 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: that happen twice last game against Atlanta, so you know, 379 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: he he is the focal point of this offense. It 380 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 5: is sad, but they do need to keep feeding Tuba 381 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: the ball. They're going to run him into the ground, 382 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 5: but he's the one that gets this team going and 383 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: moves them down the field and. 384 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: If you look at his his like rushing like totals, 385 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: like I don't think he has a He only has 386 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: like three plays that are over twenty yards and not 387 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 3: on the ground, but he just has He kind of 388 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: reminds me of b Rob a little bit with how 389 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: like physically he is at a lot of scrimmage. 390 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he just needs the offensive line that Washington has 391 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 5: now and then you know, maybe he will be at 392 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 5: that next level like b Rob is. 393 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: Playing at and that and that commit that Carolina Panthers 394 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: offensive line is a little banged up, which is going 395 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: to be probably be a pretty big factor into this game. 396 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: So one going into like you can't really replace a 397 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: guy like Jonathan Allen one to one, but there are 398 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: a lot of guys who are probably gonna have more 399 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: expanded roles, and one of them is going to be 400 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: Johnny Newton, who talked in the locker room, I think 401 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: it was Wednesday, talking about how you think he's really 402 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 3: really ready for this, he feels the confidence of the 403 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: coaching staff. What kind of impact do you think Johnny 404 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 3: Newton is going to have because we really haven't seen 405 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: all that much of him just because of various injuries 406 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: and him being lower on the death chart. But now 407 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: that he has a bigger role on this team, what 408 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: do you expect out of him? 409 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: You know, before I talk about Johnny Newton, I want 410 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: to give the credit to someone that's gone under talked about, 411 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: and that's Fadarian Mathis. I think he's come up big 412 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: on some some series that I've seen that he's out there, 413 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: he is absorbing double blocks, he's getting to running backs. 414 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: He doesn't have probably the past rushing skills that the 415 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: other defensive tackles have, but definitely a shout out to 416 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: him and what he's done so far in the season. 417 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: Johnny Obviously, with him, we haven't seen much of him. 418 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: I think he's still recovering from two foot surgeries, like 419 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: in the offseason, like those things aren't something to take lightly. 420 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: I think he probably was just getting his legs under him. 421 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 4: His last couple of games we saw him do basically 422 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: you know, a player that stood out against the Ravens 423 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: where he was able to shed a block and get 424 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 4: to the running back. 425 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: So definitely, I think with him. 426 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: He had a spectacular career at Illinois, and you know, 427 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: he was definitely one of those players that we were 428 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: excited to see what he was going to bring as 429 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 4: the second round draft pick in this draft, I think 430 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 4: that many people were surprised that we were going to 431 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: take a defensive tackle when we had probably other needs. 432 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 4: So we expected a lot out of him, and I 433 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: think he's going to be able to show it now, 434 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 4: most likely against you know, something like like uh Chuba Hubbard, 435 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: like we saw against Derrick Henry. They'll probably play a 436 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 4: lot of five down lineman and probably move him to 437 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: one of the ends spots and uh, we'll see for 438 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 4: Darien Mathis in the middle. So I'm looking forward to 439 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: it and looking forward to see what we get from 440 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: Johnny Newton. 441 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, you're right, And that is a 442 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: really good point about Fidarian because I think he puts 443 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: out he does a lot of things that do not 444 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: show up on the stat sheet, and but he makes 445 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: that defense like when he's on the field, like Frankie 446 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: Lulu and Bobby Wagner, like they have more opportunities because 447 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: he's able to eat up those double teams. And that's 448 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: something that that he was praised for even going into 449 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 3: the draft process a couple of years ago, about how 450 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: like he doesn't really do a whole lot that makes you, 451 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: you know, stand out and say, oh my gosh, that's 452 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: an amazing tackle. But he lets the linebackers flow and 453 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: do their jobs. And you know, considering the way that 454 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: Frankie and Bobby are playing right now, that you want 455 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: as much of that as you possibly can. 456 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 2: Logan real quick here is you know, I mentioned. 457 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: How like the off the line is kind of banged 458 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: up a little bit for the Panthers, Like how confident 459 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: do you feel about them going up against this commanders 460 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: deep the line? 461 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 5: Well, and you know it's crazy to say that, you know, 462 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 5: maybe the defensive line for Washington is one of the 463 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 5: weaker points on this team, which is crazy to say 464 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 5: because that wasn't. 465 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 6: The case for years. But you know, I think just 466 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 6: you know. 467 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: Doron Payne being out or Jonathan Allen excuse me, being out, 468 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 5: that's huge for the Carolina to try and exploit that, 469 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 5: get the run game going, you know, and eat up 470 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 5: the cloth. You know, like I said earlier, they need 471 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 5: to play a perfect game. So if they can take 472 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 5: care of the ball, and you know, maybe Washington this 473 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 5: could be a trap game for Washington. 474 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 6: So I think. 475 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: Who knows, who knows maybe maybe the Panthers will come 476 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 5: out they had like a heart to heart conversation in 477 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 5: the locker room after last week's loss, after being one 478 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 5: in five, and maybe they'll look like significantly better than 479 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 5: they've all seasons. So hopefully the offensive line, you know, 480 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 5: like it. Like we've said, they are banged up, but 481 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 5: maybe something they had to come to Jesus moment this 482 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 5: week and they'll just play slightly better to keep this 483 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: one a close game. 484 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really interested to see what what that matchup 485 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: is going to be like, because you know, you're right, 486 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 3: like the Carolina off off of the line is banged up. 487 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: But last question here score update, though, I think the 488 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: point you made one about Fadarian really really stood out 489 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: to me, So I got to give you a point ahead. 490 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: But logan, you still have you still have one more 491 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: question to get back up here. And it's really simple, 492 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: you know, beside the quarterbacks, because obviously Jaden is going 493 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: to be a big factor on Sunday and he Doll 494 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: is gonna be a big factor on Sunday, that's obvious, 495 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: But like other than those guys, which player do you 496 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 3: think on either team will have the biggest effect on Sunday's. 497 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 5: Outcome, I think, to be honest, I don't. I think 498 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: it really depends on how Jadeen Daniels plays. I think 499 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 5: that if Washington, you know, maybe gets a little lackluster 500 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 5: and Carols but the ball and creates the turnovers and 501 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 5: Carolina somehow capitalizes on it, I think that that could 502 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 5: really flip the outcome of the game. We've said this 503 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 5: time and time again for Carolina, if they are not 504 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 5: playing a perfect game in every single phase, they're not 505 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 5: gonna win. So they have to play a little bit 506 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: more than perfect and create some turnovers and capitalize off 507 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 5: some off the turnovers. 508 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 6: That's gonna be the biggest outcome. 509 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 5: So I think on Washington side, it's Jayden and Daniels 510 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: taking care of the ball, but then on Carolina side, 511 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 5: it's jac Horn. 512 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 6: I think. 513 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 5: I think if he can create those turnovers off of 514 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 5: these big passes that we know jade Daniels is gonna make, 515 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 5: that's gonna be the difference maker in this one. 516 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: I like that. Like that because you're right. 517 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: I think Jase Horn is really going to be quite 518 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: the quite the matt with Terry. 519 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna see a lot against Tammie. I 520 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: think Lamede'sakias might get out there, and no brown as 521 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: as really well, so he could also see any of 522 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: those guys. 523 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: All right, One same question, which player on either team 524 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 3: you think is the biggest effect on today? 525 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: All right? So I need I need them to release 526 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: the dogs and by that I mean Frankie Louvu. I 527 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: need another Frankie Louvu game because he disappeared last week 528 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: against the Ravens. 529 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: I don't think it's through fault of his The Ravens 530 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 4: had a good game plan against him, but there was 531 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: two games in a row that he popped, that he 532 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: came out, that he jumped out of. 533 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: The screen on what he was doing. So I need 534 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: him to be blitzing all the time. 535 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 4: This is a quarterback any Dalton that you know where 536 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: he's at, You like, you know he's going to be 537 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: in that pocket. You need to send him pretty much 538 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: all the time to the quarterback, bring him down or 539 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: obviously on rushing downs to the running back. And I 540 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 4: think that's going to be the key to this game. 541 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: A little bit of Bobby Wagner, but it's mostly on 542 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 4: Frankie Louver. I think Bobby Wagner was kind of called 543 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 4: out to be honest by Wait on the press conference 544 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 4: this week about these miscommunications, uh that that were going 545 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 4: on with these plays. So I think it's they're going 546 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 4: to take you a little personal. But I think Frank 547 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: lou was gonna be the one that's going to have 548 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: the big game. 549 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 3: Wen. 550 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 5: Can I just say that if you're going up against 551 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 5: the Carolina Panther and you're a former Carolina Carolina Panther, 552 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 5: chances are have a great game. We saw that with 553 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 5: DJ Moore when they play the Chicago Bear. 554 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 6: So I think you're. 555 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: Correct, that's correct. 556 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: And you know, Lulu has just been as he gets 557 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: more comfortable, you can see it on the field, right, 558 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: Like he's got he's got this quickness that I would 559 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: love to see him russ the pass or even more 560 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: because I know, I know they have other responsibilities. 561 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: That they need him to do, but he's just so 562 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: fun to watch. 563 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: I see another post game speech, right, you know. 564 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: Yoh yeah? Like that that got me fired up. So 565 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: I watched that about twenty times. Taking to that Ravens game. 566 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: It got me ready to run through a brick wall. 567 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: I would never I would have any effect at all 568 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: of the game. But I maybe want to suit up 569 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: for sure. Okay, so final results here Again, the burden 570 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: has arrested on my shoulders. 571 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: And Logan, you know I love you. 572 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 6: You know you know I thanked like the Panther season 573 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 6: is going. 574 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: We will always be friends no matter what. But one, 575 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: I gotta give the win to you. 576 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: The Fenerie Mathis uh stuff, the one, the the Frankie 577 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: Lulu stuff like that was that was all so key. 578 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: Do you have any parting words of victory for us? 579 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: No? 580 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, Logan, you were tasked with 581 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 4: something that that was, you know, kind of hard, and 582 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 4: to point out how Carolina could get tied to win 583 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 4: this game. 584 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 5: Uh. 585 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 4: And and no offense any given Sunday, right, anything can 586 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 4: happen on the field. Uh, as far as this Sunday. 587 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: But I think Washington, we saw it against the Browns 588 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 4: where I thought it was gonna be a trap game. 589 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: I think this year is kind of different. I think obviously, Zach, 590 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: we we've been around. 591 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: The team for a little bit in these last couple 592 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 4: of years where we get hyped up for these games 593 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: that are supposedly Washington's favorite at home, you know, big 594 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: home crowd coming out for the team and it just 595 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: lay a big dud, right, So I think this year 596 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: is different, and I expect that on a day where 597 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 4: Daryl Green is getting his jersey retired, the team will 598 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: pick him up as well. 599 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 3: And you know, granted, like you know, the Panthers are, 600 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: you know, their professionals. They can win on any given Sunday, 601 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: like you said, but if they go in there and 602 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: handle their business, I think things should be should be 603 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 3: okay real quick before on the way out. Daryl Green's 604 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: memory is getting retired on Sunday. You guys have you know, 605 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: been fans and grew up around here and all of 606 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: the other stuff. The importance and significance of that, you know, 607 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame player getting honored. 608 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 4: Like that for me personally, you know, he was one 609 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: of my favorite players coming up growing up as a 610 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 4: kid here in the nineties and you know, seeing him play, 611 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 4: seeing him not go to another team actually you know, 612 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 4: having his jersey and being able to wear it for 613 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: years and years, so it didn't fit me anymore, you know, 614 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: because he actually stayed on the team. 615 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: Uh. 616 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely someone that deserves to have his jersey retired. 617 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer obviously, you know, getting treated right. And 618 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: I hope that him and his family enjoy this moment 619 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: that they're going to have this weekend. 620 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: And Logan, Logan, I know you you you you and 621 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: I weren't around it for quite as long to see 622 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: to see you know, hidjeogens like prime years. But I 623 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: mean it's obviously you've heard the stories about how great 624 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: he is. 625 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, growing up in the Washington area, that 626 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: was the first jersey I got was er Yeah, and 627 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 5: every year, you know, when you get bigger, you get 628 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 5: new jerseys, and I always got his jersey. I still 629 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: have his in my closet, and throughout the years, I 630 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: was never embarrassed to wear that jersey. I was always 631 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 5: excited about getting a new green jersey. And just you know, 632 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 5: he's been such an important piece to this organization and 633 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 5: it is so well deserved. And I can't wait to 634 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 5: see what Washington does for him. I just know the 635 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 5: videos that they're gonna post, they're gonna give me chills. 636 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 5: So congratulations to him. I mean, I can't I couldn't 637 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 5: think of anyone better to deserve that honor. 638 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: Should be fine, should be a really really cool, historic 639 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: moment for everyone involved. Everyone's gonna be able to be 640 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: there to see the game, but guys, we will see 641 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: you next week. Hopefully we are talking about a win. 642 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: Be sure to rate reviews, subscribe wherever you get your podcast. 643 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: And this has been the Beatdown.