1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale All. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: We be here with Matt Williamson. It's a sunny but 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Chile Wednesday here in uh in Pittsburgh and Matt. One 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: week from today, free agency sets starts in the NFL. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Next Monday is the quote unquote legal tampering period, which 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: kind of drives me nuts. All right, you'll you'll get 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: all kinds of news about this guy getting agreeing to contract, 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: that guy agreeing to contract within like two minutes of 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: the period the illegal tampering period opening. Um, and we're 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: supposed to believe it that just all happened right away, 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Like there's no started talks. Just send him a thing, 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: a contract offer, and he accepted it right away. How 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: about that they didn't even go back and forth. Yeah, 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: but the league's fun right now. I mean, leading up 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: to that, you're seeing cuts left and right. We got 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: franchise stuff. There's Aaron Rodgers rumors, there's Lamar stuff, you know, 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, what the Giants did and Gino Smith's signing 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: and this stretch. Basically, combine through the first couple weeks 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: of free agency is a blast. There's a lot going on, 22 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: so let's unpeel some of that. Obviously, yesterday was the 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: franchise tag deadline Tuesday, and we saw some quick movement there. 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: It's almost so I liking this too. These deadlines are like, 25 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: since we're it's almost spring, we're getting into into at 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: the end of the high school year coming up here. 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: And I remember one of my teachers telling me in 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: high school that he and the other teachers always talked 29 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: about it, how amazing it was is that you saw 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: these couples for him in the spring, because well it 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: was time for the prom and you had to ask 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: somebody to the prom. The deadline for the franchise tags 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: kind of forces these couples together or in some cases apart. 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Right a deadline certainly contracts done in the league. I mean, 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: we see that all the time. What do you do, 36 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: you want to go right to Baltimore here, let's do it, 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, not that we haven't talked a ton 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: about this already, but now we know. Now we know, 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: so I feel like there's more of a chance that 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: Lamar's a Raven because it's the non exclusive tag than 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: if it was the exclusive tag. See, I feel the 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: other way about this. Okay, I have to mike feelings 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: about it because I really do want to talk about 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: it more now than we have. Because here's what. So, 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: immediately immediately after it was announced that the Ravens were 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: putting your non exclusive tag on him, you saw a 47 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: bunch of reporters from different franchises tweet out, well, this 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: team's not interested in Lamar and that team's not interested 49 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: in Lamar. First of all, I don't believe about half 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: of that. I don't remember. I don't believe any of it. Yeah. 51 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: But secondly, so if I'm, for example, the Carolina Panthers, 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there with a ninth pick in this 53 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: year's draft, and I say, you know what, I might 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: have to trade up this year to go get the 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: quarterback that I want, right, in which case I'm probably 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to give up next year's first round draft 57 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: pick exactly for an unknown Why wouldn't I Why wouldn't 58 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: I go get Lamar for the ninth pick this year 59 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: in something in a first round pick next year? Now 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I gotta pay him. Okay, But I know what he is. 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I know I can win with Lamar. Yes, so all right, 62 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: let's rewind. I think Baltimore did this because they realized 63 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: they could not get a contract on Lake Lamar. So 64 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: they then said, you go work a contract out with 65 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: someone else. If you can make a contract work with 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: anyone in the league, we'll probably match it. Is what 67 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I think they're thinking to themselves, Well, what if it's 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. That's where I was going to go next though, 69 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Like then they see I think they could really get 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: screwed with this, no doubt about it. You brought up Carolina, 71 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: but how about Washington? So we're Tampa. Tampa is another one. 72 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: But I'm Daniel Snyder. Everyone hates me anyways, putting my 73 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: own fan base. I'm thinking about selling the team, but 74 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I can kind of give the finger to the rest 75 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: of the league hand out the exact Watson contract plus 76 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: a dollar or whatever, because I'm gonna make on the 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: sale of the team. I'm going to make a good 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: jillion dollars, and I think it helps the saale the team, 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: to have a face to the team and selling Jackson jerseys. 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: You know, Commanders Jackson Jersey are selling like crazy people 81 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: were more apt to come to the games. And it 82 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: only would cost you if you're Washington the sixteenth pick 83 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: and next year's first. What you hope is at least 84 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: a playoff pick. Right, it's gonna mean maybe twenty something. Right, 85 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: that's nothing for Lamar And you signed the guy. Give 86 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the finger to the league. Boom. We have two contracts now, 87 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: so since he the Chargers, the eaton goals are going 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: to hear from their quarterback. Well, now there's two guaranteed deals. 89 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: If you made your franchise, you up the price tag 90 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: on your franchise, right, And if you care at all 91 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: what Washington fans feel about you, they might be like, boy, 92 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: I hated the Snyder era. He's horrible. But he goes 93 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: Lamar at the end that, yeah, we stole a bar. 94 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: We stole Lamar off the rivals that are you know, 95 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: twenty miles up the road in Baltimore, right for sixteen 96 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: and twenty four? What a deal? And what were the 97 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: best teams in the NFC? And he, you know, Daniel 98 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Snyder dropped the Mike Walks away with a ton of money. 99 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's a great deal for him. Yeah, 100 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: And the I thought that the Daniel Jones deal that 101 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: was given up four years, one hundred and sixty million dollars. 102 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: If Daniel Jones is getting forty million dollars a year, 103 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: and I know he's not getting that this year, right, right, right, 104 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: But if that's the going right now, that's the going right. 105 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: We saw car sign something very similar. If I'm Lamar, 106 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't I want that kind of money. I want, 107 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, I want to Seawan wants some money. I 108 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: want it fully guaranteed, or at least mostly fully guaranteed. 109 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: And at this point, I don't know that I want 110 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: to be in Baltimore anymore. They've called me. I mean, 111 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: that bridge might be burning as we speak, you know. 112 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: So I opened this by saying I think that there's 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: a better chance he's in Baltimore. But that was only 114 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: under the assumption that the Ravens plan, which I think 115 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: is some other team does in negotiations because we can't 116 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: get it done and then we just stamp it go through. 117 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: But if only takes one team and Washington and Carolina 118 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: absolutely come to mind, where we'll give them the deal 119 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: he wanted, you know, we'll give them the Walton deal, 120 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: which is probably on the horizon for Burrow and Herbert 121 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: and all those guys. Well, that's the other shoe to 122 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: drop here as well, with with some of these other 123 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are now going to be signing, And it 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: leads to the question can you afford a franchise quarterback? Right? 125 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: But you know, fifty if fifty plus million dollars is 126 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: the starting point, if forty million dollars is the starting 127 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: point now for the Daniel Jones type quarterbacks, right, and 128 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: even Gino and Gino and you know, I mean, good lord. 129 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: So my other take on that is the league knows 130 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: how healthy it is, and they must think they're very, 131 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: very healthy, and that the CAP's going to go up 132 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: and up and up and up. And I wonder how 133 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: does that affects spending next week? I mean, they're not 134 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: gonna be people going for quarterbacks, but does that help 135 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: whoever else? I mean, all the top three agents. J 136 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: Won Hardrey is probably happy about that, you know, I mean, 137 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean spending in general. I bet it's going to 138 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: be bonkers next week. Here's a different, totally different layer 139 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: that we kind of touched on earlier on my podcast 140 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: is what if you're a backup quarterback? Now, what if 141 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: you're Mason Rudolph, like all those they might be worth 142 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: more than they used to be. I mean incrementally, just 143 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: because all those guys played last year, you know, sixty 144 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: summer or whatever started games. Do you think teams are 145 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: gonna put fifty into a Daniel Jones type and then 146 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: low ball the backup. I don't know that they'll do 147 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: that either. Right, It's it's it's very interesting time and 148 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and you know this is all going 149 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: to play out over the next couple of weeks here. 150 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: I have to believe somebody is going to want to 151 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: pay Jackson Jackson. I mean again, he's twenty six years old, 152 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: he's a former you know, League MVP. You look at 153 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: the record that you put together. He's such a unicorn, right, 154 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think or Washington has not had anyone 155 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: close to him since Cam Newton or Joeth Eisman, you 156 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like band Base would eat him up. 157 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: But the other thing, if you're Jackson, you look at 158 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: this and say, I want to show that I can 159 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: be a passer ima. I think I think they've put 160 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: the boxed him in in Baltimore to the point where 161 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: people look at him and say, well, he's just this, 162 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know that that's the case. I don't 163 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: think so either. I think that's that scheme has actually 164 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: held him back. I agree Pastor for sure. You know, 165 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: give him, give him DJ Moore, give him McLaurin, you 166 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Right, So for him a place 167 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: like one of those places could be. I mean, could 168 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: you see a poison pill written into a contract with him? 169 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: We don't see those as much. We haven't seen those 170 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: in a long long time. Yeah, I was. I think 171 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: that they've somehow been vetoed, but I don't know how. 172 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, Like, do you remember the Nate Burleson poison pill? 173 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:09,239 Speaker 1: Well everyone remembers the Hutchinson poison pill, and the Seahawks 174 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: did the same thing with Burlison to get back at 175 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: the Vikings. I might have that backwards. And the in 176 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: Burleson's contract was he gets X bazillion dollars if he 177 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: plays less than X amount of games in the state 178 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: of Minnesota, right it was. Yeah, I think the league 179 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: made that kind of thing illegal. But there are a 180 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: five of things that you can do, you know. Uh, 181 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: maybe you say, you know, if for every yard you 182 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: get over a thousand rushing. Maybe you don't plan the 183 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: run him as much, but you tell you right into 184 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: his contract, every yard rushing Yarady has over a thousand 185 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: yards is another one hundred thousand dollars easily passed. And 186 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: keep going over right, And if he stays in Baltimore, 187 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna blow pass at all the time. And then 188 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: it becomes a you know, a readily or easily available. 189 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: There's just ways that you can do this that yeah, yeah, 190 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: you know. And I don't think that, you know, the 191 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Ravens I have shown that they're not interested in paying 192 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: him fifty plus million dollars. They don't want to pay 193 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: him to Shaun Watson money because that's what he's asking for, right. 194 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I really think that they would say, be 195 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: on your way if somebody give them the Watson deal, 196 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: the fully guaranteed Watson plus a dollar or whatever it is, 197 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then and then there 198 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: the other question. So if they do match it, now 199 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: they're way over the salary cap, right, that's a problem 200 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: as well. If they don't match it, they don't have 201 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback. That's as I say too, like if the 202 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: Washington scenario, that's worst case over them. Okay, you get 203 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: sixteen back and you get there first next year? Okay, 204 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback for you? I mean, what do you 205 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: and wherever they pick they earned twenty early twenties. That's 206 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: something of your rookie. This year, you're signing Brissette or 207 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: something like that. Yes, you have more cat money because 208 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: he comes off your books. But you're not rolling with Huntley. 209 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean you're rolling with like Brissette or something. But 210 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: the hairy part of it then becomes. So let's say 211 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: Jackson doesn't sign a deal until three weeks into free agency. Yeah, right, right, 212 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: and those guys and all those quarterbacks are gone. Yeah, 213 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, what are you doing a couple of picks? 214 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: But you can't don't have anybody that's capable. And then 215 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: you know, are you gonna trade a first round pick 216 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: to get some veteran backup that you think can you know, 217 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: be your guy? Right? No, for Teddy Bridgewater or a 218 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: guy like right right, and you're gonna have to overpay 219 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: for him because the other team knows you're behind. They've 220 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: got you. Yeah, I mean, it's not hard to envision 221 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: them being the worst quarterback situation in the league by 222 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 1: right and if it doesn't that long ago, can I 223 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: can remember Steeler fans talking about the post been Roethlisberger. Well, 224 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to have the worst quarterbacks situation 225 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: in the in the AFC, North boom Ben retires because 226 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: you got Lamar and you got Joe Burrow and whoever 227 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: you know when this when the Browns signed to Shaun Watson. 228 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: This is how quickly things can change because of these 229 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: contracts situations. Right, I mean you can argue today March eighth, 230 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, the Steelers have the second best quarterback 231 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: situation in the division when you factor in what he 232 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: costs and everything. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely where the Ravens are 233 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 1: right now hoping someone doesn't steal your guy and you 234 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: don't get nearly in the return for him, or hoping 235 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: Watson gets good he's a fifty million dollars capit, Or 236 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: would you rather sit where the Steelers are at, with 237 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: the ability to build around your guy with with actually 238 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks that you know you can win with, right right? Right? 239 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: You got what like sixteen seventeen million invested in quarterbacks 240 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: and you like it's less than fifteen it's less than 241 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: not Yeah, yeah, So I don't know this. This is 242 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to watch. The Ravens are playing a 243 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: game of chicken here with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, who's gonna 244 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: blink first? And the other ramifications to me, are you 245 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: already saw it with Bateman and some of these other 246 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: dudes coming out? Can't be good for the locker room, 247 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, Well that's the other thing. Yeah, I mean, 248 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: those guys in that locker room know, I mean, Lamar's 249 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: the leader of that team, whether they like it or not, 250 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: is immense value. He has bend value to that team, 251 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: you know. I mean they know it. It's not gonna 252 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: get better. I mean at least offer years if he leaves, 253 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: no matter what. As I've continually said, you know you've 254 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: got a new offensive coordinator coming in. Is Lamar gonna 255 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: be happy enough to come in and sign that franchise 256 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: deal and just move on and go through all the 257 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: OTAs and everything. Is he going to show up for 258 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: training camp? He doesn't have to. He's not under contract 259 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: right now to the Baltimore Ravens. He doesn't have to 260 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: sign that franchise tag. I mean, he will take a 261 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: shit out the year right right. No, And he's already 262 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say he sat out. He's very 263 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: well could have been injured. Who knows, you know, but 264 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: there's already he's been speculation that he could have been 265 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the field, and you know it is Baltimore happy with 266 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: him at this point, he can't be super happy with them. Yeah, 267 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: it's turning into you know, when the Deshaun Watson situation happened. 268 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm talking about free before you knew anything about 269 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: what was happening off the field, and he decided that 270 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: he didn't like the contract that he had just signed 271 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: with the Houston Texans because he didn't like the direction 272 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: of the team. And then they decided he wasn't going 273 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: to play for them, he was going to sit out. 274 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: And this was before anybody knew anything about any of 275 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: the massages or anything like that kind of set the tone, 276 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: It set the precedent for this situation. Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah. 277 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean I don't believe at all that we didn't 278 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: mention Atlanta. The Miami stuff is a little weird to me, 279 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: but apparently their own is a little weird too, you know. 280 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean they're always looking for something, and I guess 281 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: Lamar would love to play in Miami. I mean, that's home, 282 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: that would be his number one. But I don't believe 283 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: for a second that those six teams that immediately came 284 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: out after he was tagged have no interest. I can 285 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: come up with at least a contract to throw their 286 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: way or you know what I mean. Well, I think 287 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, if you're the team, you kind of put 288 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: that out there through the back channels because you don't 289 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: want to drive Lamar's price tag up right right right right. 290 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: You don want to be like, we're super interested, and 291 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: then every other team does two. And because that's the 292 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: other that's the other thing that that's crazy about this situation. 293 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't have any he has no representation. It's brutal. 294 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: So typically what would happen would be the representative, his 295 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: agent would be on the would be making calls to 296 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: all these teams. We're accepting calls from all these teams. Well, 297 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: Lamar's not gonna do that. They're all going to start 298 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: calling Lamar, right, I mean, they'll call his mom or 299 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's lawyers involved, but it's not called the 300 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: agency and my secretarial handle it. You know, all get 301 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: back to you and you know, then my assistant handles 302 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: it or you know that part baffles me. From Lamar, 303 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, frankly, from where he stood, I think he 304 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: has every right in the world to go to the Ravens, 305 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: sit down to the table and say the starting point 306 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: is the Watson contract, and I have a better resume 307 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: than him. But the fact that you still don't have 308 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: an agent is nuts to me, especially with this all 309 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: going on, where you're definitely gonna be fielding calls you 310 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: know from multiple teams. Yeah, I don't. Meanwhile, you're supposed 311 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: to be training to get ready for a season, you know, 312 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: all that stuff like is he out there running or 313 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, putting in his work in the weight room 314 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: and stuff and fielding calls at the same time, Like, hey, 315 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: it's the it's the you know Indianapolis Colts. Hey, how 316 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: you doing, Lamar? Right, right, here's the paragraph I we're 317 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: gonna give you in the signing bonus, Like, all right, 318 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: I put my facts that over to me, ken you. Yeah, 319 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: after that, with those workout and get a shower, I'll 320 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: think about looking at it. You know, it's crazy. It's 321 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: too many hats. And I bet the Ravens of some 322 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: degree too, are like this is nuts. I mean, we 323 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: have a number of mine. They're a steadfast organization. Great, 324 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: but you're hard to get a hold of. I mean, 325 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't know this for a fact, but I've been 326 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: told there's times where you don't hear from him from 327 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: a day or two. He's just a different cat. You know, 328 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't always have his phone with him, you know, 329 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: he just does his own thing. Well, we need you 330 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: to be pretty thin of here, dude, you know right, 331 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 1: we need you on the phone when we when we 332 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: need you. You know, he can't be out in the 333 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: middle of the middle of you know, the Gulf of 334 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: Mexico on a charter boat with those cell service exactly 335 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: on some islands, or hanging with your buds or whatever 336 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: you want to do. But this needs to happen. And 337 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just can't imagine David Tepper, Daniel 338 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: Snyder not kicking the tires and just even just look 339 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: at it as a business, let alone winning games. We're 340 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna sell so many seats and jerseys and billboards and 341 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: interest around the team, and boy, we need it. Yeah, 342 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: And you know there's another team out there that you 343 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: haven't talked about, Matt, that has gone that veteran quarterback 344 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: route the last couple of years and has not has 345 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: shown that they're not afraid to make those kind of trades. 346 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: But the Indianapolis Colts, Yeah, I thought about that too, 347 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: Like instead of trading from four to one, how about 348 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: four and what you think is a playoff pick next year? 349 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: It's not bad, it's not bad. I think about him 350 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: in Atlanta or Indie because they're domes. I mean, just 351 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: his speed in that dome and the weather, you know, 352 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: would be phenomenal handing it to Jonathan Taylor and you know, 353 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean having dudes Colts minus the fourth overall pick 354 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: plus Lamar that's a ten win team. Yeah, right, And 355 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: in that situation, you know, could there could the Ravens 356 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: end trade up and go get you know, Young or Stroud. 357 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: But to me, that's like best case scenario. That's the 358 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: best case scenaria for them. But then you're starting but 359 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: then you're starting over quarterback again, you are, But the 360 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: Steelers just did that, and the Steelers did Yeah, you 361 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: know right, I mean, you can't talk up both sides 362 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: of our mouth about that. It's not the worst situation. 363 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: You'd have a cost controlled c J. Stroud, you know, 364 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: which isn't bad. But you're probably giving up your other 365 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. You're giving up to move up 366 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: to get that guy, at least at least that you 367 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: probably don't know the answer to this, But I don't 368 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: even know. Is Miami allowed. They don't have a first 369 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: round they don't have a first round pick. No, if 370 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: for him to sign with Miami would have to happen 371 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: after this year's draft. Oh okay, okay, which would really really? 372 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could sign and trade them 373 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: somehow and somehow get to a back or I don't 374 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: know who knows, but that it's it's it's one of 375 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: the more interesting offseason situations that people may wonder why 376 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: we're talking about it all time. Well, this is Steeler 377 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: Nation Radio, and they are in a division. But to me, 378 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: it's just such a fascinating development in the NFL. Unprecedented obviously, 379 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, to have a former league MVP, you know, 380 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: get this, for this to happen like he's right now, 381 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: is scheduled to make thirty two million dollars. M I saw. 382 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: I saw a thing today the Baker Mayfield in his career. 383 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: They were in the same draft, remember, yeah, right, Baker 384 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: Mayfield's made like four times as much better, three times 385 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: as much money in his career as Lamar Jackson. Wow, 386 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: which is a crime. I mean there's a benefit for 387 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: me going first overall. Yeah, but Daniel Jones is gonna 388 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: make right now, is making way more money than Lamar Jackson. 389 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, right right, not for long, but right well, 390 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: if he plays on that franchise tag, he would he 391 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: would still make more money. Yeah, right, this year with 392 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: the signing bonus and his base salary and stuff, Daniel 393 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Jones would make way more money than Lamar is gonna 394 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: get this year. This is kind of a side note 395 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: that I didn't know until today, But if you're an 396 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: NFL team and you sign a player to a guaranteed contract, 397 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: he gets his money like anyone else that year. But 398 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: the owner, there's actually human beings of all. This is 399 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: a monopoly. You know that the owner has to put 400 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: that amount of money correct in correct? Yea, Like some 401 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: of these family owned teams don't have a quarter a 402 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: million dollars just laying around that they can just you know, 403 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: like the Raiders were brought up, well they're like, quote 404 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: the poorest team in the league, you know what I mean, 405 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: Like the Davis family might not have two hundred and 406 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars that they just don't need it laying 407 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: around a mad money just to write. I mean, that's 408 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: like you and I walking into a car dealership and 409 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: ignoring the payments and we just buy it flat out, 410 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: like well I can't quite swing that right now, or 411 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: a house, you know what I mean, like like to 412 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: pay this off over three years, not one payment. Yeah, 413 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: it's crazy. We'll see what happens with this. But again, 414 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: when those starts to find out next week on Monday, 415 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: where some of these guys are going to sign him, 416 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: by Wednesday, they can actually start signing, which is going 417 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: to be really interesting. 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