1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Battleground. This is the show where 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: we never retreat and we never surrender. I've got a 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: really important episode this week. A guy named Matt Cody's 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: coming on. He's the founder of the Oil and Gas 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Workers Association. He's a pretty incredible guy. He's a guy 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: that actually works for a living. One of the things 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: that I noticed when I was on the campaign trail 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: for the House and the Senate was just how much 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: our oil and gas workers here in America are aligned 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: by bad faith actors who don't know a whole lot 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: about the industry. Now are oil and gas workers. They 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: put their lives on the line for this country. It's 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: a dangerous job. Sometimes these people are working like twelve, thirteen, 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: fourteen hours a day, and what they do makes our 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: lives so much better. I mean, obviously, you know they're 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: hard work in the field allows us to fill up 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: our cars in our trucks with cheap gas. They're the 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: ones that allow us to have lights on in our 19 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: house at night, and they work their butts off for us, 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: and it's often a very thankless job. So the oil 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: and gas industry is something that's obviously very very important 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: to me. I don't like to see these great patriots 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: be maligned as they are. And the fact of the 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: matter is this, most people in this country don't understand 25 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: the oil and gas industry. They don't understand the national 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: security benefits, they don't understand the economic benefits, and they 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: really don't understand that there's a moral component to a 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: strong oil and gas or energy sector as well. And 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: that is that that is that rich people, people that 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: are in the top one percent, or even even people 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: that are doing real well for themselves in the middle class, 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: when gas prices go up, they don't suffer as much. 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: So when you have a regime like the Biden administration 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: that's in office that is at war where our oil 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: and gas industry, like for example, on day one they 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: dismantled the Keystone pipeline, I mean that really hurt our country. 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: That really hurt our energy industry. When you have a 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: regime or a president that is at war with an industry, 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: it disproportionately affects lower income Americans who can't really afford 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: to put gas in their car or heat their homes. Now, 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: So this is an important episode. I hope you watch it. 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: Matt Cody is a great patriot and go online after 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: you watch or listen and look up the Oil and 44 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: Gas Workers Association. It's an organization that supports the workers 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: and the people who sacrifice the most for our country. So, 46 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: without further ado, I hope you enjoy this episode. As always, 47 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in. Make sure that you subscribe 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. Oh and 49 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: you can also subscribe to YouTube rumbled. There will be 50 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: lots more exclusive content there. As always. God bless you all, 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: and God bless this incredible country that we get to 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: call home. Thank you all for listening. Take care, Hey Matt, 53 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: what's going on. It's great to have you. 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Hey, Sean, thanks for having me on. Honored to be well. 55 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've seen you all over the place. 56 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're you founded the Oil and Gas 57 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: Workers Association, and you know, oil and gas is something 58 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: that is monumentally important to me at having from I'm 59 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania, man. We got Marcella shale up here, and 60 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, the oil and gas industry in our state 61 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: something like six hundred thousand jobs both you know, directly 62 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: and indirectly associated with that industry and American energy independence 63 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: is something that is incredibly important. So, uh, that's why 64 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate you and your organization. But you one of 65 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: the reasons why I wanted to have you on Matt 66 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: is that you have a pretty awesome story, and so 67 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: I just want to start. Tell me, take me back 68 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: to the beginning. You know, where are you from? What 69 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: was your upbringing? 70 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Like, sure, it was nineteen seventy seven. I believe it 71 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: was a clear day. There was zero climate change in Lubbock, Texas. 72 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: I was born no, hey, I grew up in this industry. 73 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm the oldest of three kids. I'm the oldest grandchild 74 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: on both sides, a fourth generation oil field worker. My dad, 75 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: both my grandpas my great grandpa worked in the oil field. 76 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: I come from an ol ag and education family. My mom, 77 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: most of her siblings and a lot of my cousins 78 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: their teachers. They're educators, coaches. So I come from a 79 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: family in West Texas, about forty five miles west of Lubbock. 80 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: We grew up in the oil field. My dad still 81 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: works in the old field. He's the director of mate 82 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: and for an Oldfield Truck and company here in the 83 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Permium Basin. And I grew up in this industry, like 84 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: a lot of people out here. In the bust of 85 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: eighty six, I was nine years old, the oldest of 86 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: three kids. I remember that we, like a lot of Americans, 87 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: we lost almost everything. We had, had to sell the house, 88 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: had to turn in one of the one of the 89 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: two new cars, and had to move eventually. But my parents, 90 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: like every American family, they did everything they could to 91 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: make sure we were fed. After about six months in 92 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: the summerfield edition to Keller, we moved back to West 93 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: Texas and my dad worked And I think this is 94 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: AOC math, but my dad worked about a billion and 95 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: eighty three hours a week in a hot old truck 96 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: to make sure that we had everything we needed. My 97 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: mom went back to school and became a teacher. And 98 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: you know, we did what every American family does. We 99 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: made it my mom and dad. Eventually, you know, once 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: my mom she became a teacher, we were a two 101 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: income and we've seen a booms and busts ever since. 102 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: You know. I broke out on an old Kelly rig 103 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: at ninety eight and worked rig floors off and on 104 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: till two thousand and four. I got out of the 105 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: oil field. I came back to it in twenty eleven, 106 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: really at the height of the shell revolution in America, 107 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: right here in the Permiam Basin. Then moved to Midland, 108 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: and I've been here ever since. 109 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Give me a sense of of when you said the 110 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: bust of eighty six, Explain that to people who are 111 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: watching and listening. 112 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: Sure, that was when oil prices failed. We laid down 113 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: a bunch of rigs. And from what my grandpa says, now, 114 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: I was nine years old, but apparently there were acres 115 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: and acres and acres of oil field equipment for sale 116 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: at rock bottom prices in nineteen eighty six. And I 117 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: hear that the bust of nineteen eighty was even worse. 118 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: But eighty six is the one that I remember. For 119 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: a lot of people who were a little bit younger 120 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: than me, they probably remember two thousand and eight, the 121 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: Great Financial Crisis, and they probably remember the end of 122 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: the Obama Biden administration as well, in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, 123 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, whenever we were beginning President Trump's administration and 124 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: really starting to go back to drilling here and drilling now. 125 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: But it took a couple of years into President Trump's 126 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: administration before we were able to ramp back up. So 127 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: people would most probably compare it to twenty fifteen, twenty 128 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: sixteen right now and how slow oil was, how many 129 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: rigs weren't running, and then under President Trump's administration, man 130 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: we were Bowman. Of course, during President Trump's administration, US 131 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: operators had the confidence to drill knowing that we had 132 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: an administration in the White House that supported American workers 133 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: and families. We don't have that now. The other thing 134 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: I compare it to, of course, is twenty twenty when 135 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: after the double whammy of the COVID pandemic and the 136 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: Saudi Russia price War, President Trump broke it an into 137 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: the Saudi Russia price War and saved as many American 138 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: jobs as possible. But in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, 139 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: not a whole lot of drilling activity, not a whole 140 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: lot of old demand. And that's really a bust. 141 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Well, Matt, So one of the things that has always 142 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: surprised me, and I've you know, my dad has worked 143 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: in nuclear energy almost his you know, for forty three years, 144 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: just retired, you know, about a month or so ago. 145 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: Worked on aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines, for the Navy 146 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: as a contractor for the Navy. So energy has always 147 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: been a part of my family as well. 148 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Right. 149 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: But what surprises me so much about, you know, where 150 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: we are as a country. It seems like people don't 151 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: understand the industry at all. And I think part of 152 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: part of that is that you have all of these 153 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: you know, the chimera of green energy and these radical 154 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: greens as I like to call them, and many of 155 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: these nonprofits that these Americans work for funded by our 156 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: global adversaries like China and Russia, precisely so that we 157 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: recap ourselves in the marketplace. But help us understand when 158 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: you say your dad worked in an oil field, educate 159 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: us and tell us what exactly that means. 160 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: The ol and gas industry nationwide, it's oil drilling, it's 161 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: gas drilling, whether we're drilling specifically for oil and get 162 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: associated gas, whether we're drilling specifically for natural gas. The 163 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: oil and gas industry is far reaching. It's an upstream, 164 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: a midstream, and a downstream sector all the way from 165 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: drilling wells, getting it to market, refining it, exporting it, 166 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: using it here in the country. There those three sectors, 167 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: and in it accounts for a lot of jobs. In fact, 168 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: the statistics that I love to point out is that 169 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: during President Trump's administration in twenty nineteen, our oil and 170 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: gas industry supported eleven point five three million jobs nationwide 171 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: and seven point nine percent of our nation's GDP. And 172 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: you bring up a great point about how our enemies 173 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: are funding some of these organizations try to get the 174 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: US to kneecap ourselves. I was very surprised last year 175 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: in October. So last year, Wayne Christian, my friend and 176 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: was the chairman of the Railroad Commission, is still a commissioner, 177 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: but he appointed me to the Interstate Old Gas Compact Commission. 178 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: So I fly to Baltimore and on Monday morning, I 179 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: show up for breakfast and the breakfast is sponsored by 180 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: eog Resources, a great company by the way, and the 181 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: Environmental Defense Fund. And I looked at that, going huh. Anyway, 182 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: during a presentation on carbon capture and storage, which was 183 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 2: presented by a gentleman from North Dakota, this edf attorney 184 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: and it was easy to spot him. He was the only 185 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: one wearing a mask in a room full of other people. 186 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: But he jumps up and starts giving his own rebuttal. 187 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: His own presentation, and I think, well, this guy's rude. Anyway, 188 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: I left the room. I'm standing out sie. He walks 189 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: by me, and I guess he overheard me mention edf 190 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: and this attorney and he's like, oh, hey, hey, right here, 191 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: and I thought, all right, we'll do this here. So 192 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: I started asking questions. I said, hey, your website says 193 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: that y'all have three million members in the United States, Mexico, Indonesia, 194 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: and China. He said, yes, yes, we do. I said great. 195 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: How is your racial equity program going in China? He 196 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: looked at me puzzled. He's like, well, we don't have one. 197 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: I said, interesting. I said, how is your equality program 198 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: going in Venezuela? And he's like, we don't have one 199 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: of those. He said, what does it matter to you? 200 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: I said, here's what matters to me. I said, here 201 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: in America, you radical environmental groups. You have your site 202 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: setting set on shutting down USA oil and gas production, 203 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: but you don't have any of these environmental justice or 204 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: other programs going on in other countries. You seem focused 205 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: only on killing American oil and gas jops. 206 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: What did he say to that? Uh? 207 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: He asked me if we could discuss this later, and 208 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: then he handed me a business card with pronoun we've 209 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 2: never talked to. I don't know, maybe I sent the 210 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: wrong email. 211 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I think when you look at 212 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: everything that we have here in this country, all of 213 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: the abundance and the sort of miracle of the free 214 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: market in America that built our economy over the last 215 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: fifty sixty seventy years, everything that we have is tied 216 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: to the oil and gas industry in some way, and 217 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: it always blows me away. Man, how people just don't 218 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: seem to understand that. From the tires in their cars 219 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: or the clothes that they wear, to the cups that 220 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: we drink out of everything, I mean, obviously in addition 221 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to to cheap gas and oil and fuel, everything's tied 222 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: to it, and people don't realize the impact of the industry. 223 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: So how so you said, like your family, obviously you're 224 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: come from a legacy oil field family. How did your parents? 225 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: How did your father react when in nineteen eighty six 226 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: when the market completely collapsed. 227 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: You know, I was nine, so my dad was never 228 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: you know, just hey, this is awful, and you know, 229 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: my dad's always been very stoic. Just we're going to 230 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: figure it out kind of guy, and him and my 231 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: mom always have figured it out. I don't remember a 232 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: whole lot of reaction whenever I was nine, I know 233 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: it couldn't have been easy, you know. I remember my 234 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: dad an unclove of mine and my grandpa tried roofing 235 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: for a while and that didn't That didn't work because 236 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty six eighty seven, there weren't a 237 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: whole lot of people spending money on home repairs. There 238 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: wasn't a whole lot of money. America had crashed. I'm 239 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: not thinking nineteen twenty nine crash, but eventually, I remember 240 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: when whenever we moved to the Summerfield edition of Keller, 241 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: and I always point that out because back in nineteen 242 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: eighty seven, whenever you said you lived in Keller, people say, oh, hey, 243 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: do you know Ross Perrot. No, we were in the 244 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: other part of Killer. But my dad cleaned carpets for 245 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: a living, and my mom taught facial tissue for Kimberly 246 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: Clark for six months in Fort Worth just to keep 247 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: us fed. And eventually, you know, we missed West Texas 248 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: and we went back and my dad worked for some 249 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: great employers. My Dad worked his butt off, just like 250 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: every single American does. Right now, I mean to look 251 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,479 Speaker 2: at the Biden economy. Biden nomics has destroying every American 252 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: where we're falling further and further behind him. With Title 253 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: forty two said to end an inflation which Joe Biden 254 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: and his administration have caused, every American worker is having 255 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: to work harder to try to stay at the same level. 256 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: And it's just hard. So I imagine it was hard on 257 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: my parents, but they didn't really show it. 258 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: Today, I want to talk about something that's been on 259 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: the minds of the many Americans lately, energy independence. With 260 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: rising energy prices and geopolitical tensions, it's more important than 261 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: ever for our country to be self sufficient when it 262 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: comes to our energy needs. And that's where Deep Well 263 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Services comes in. They're a company that's not only dedicated 264 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: to delivering top not services to the oil and gas industry, 265 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: but they're also committed to the goal of American energy independence. 266 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: With their cutting edge technology and expert team of professionals, 267 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: they're helping to unlock new sources of domestic energy and 268 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: reduce our dependence on foreign oil. But that's not all 269 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: Deep Well Services is also a great American company that's 270 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: hiring like crazy right now, and they're not just looking 271 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: for anyone. They're seeking out talented and hardworking individuals who 272 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: want to join their team and make a difference. And 273 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: with competitive salaries and benefits, it's a great opportunity to 274 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: not only work for a patriotic company, but also build 275 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: a rewarding career in the energy sector. So if you're 276 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: looking for a job with purpose and meaning, or if 277 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: you're simply passionate about American energy independence, then you should 278 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: definitely check out Deep Well Services. Visit their website at 279 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: Deepwellservices dot com to learn more about their company and 280 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: career opportunities. How did you so you're a high schooler right, 281 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: like you know, nine in nineteen eighty six, But how 282 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: did you decide that you were going to follow in 283 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: your dad's footsteps and work in the oil and gas 284 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: industry as well? 285 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: Oh? I didn't want to. I wanted to be an attorney. 286 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: And I remember, wait a second, I mean how you 287 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: you wanted to be an attorney? 288 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: I was a two time state championship debater in high 289 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: school with a kind of bound for law school with 290 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: a full. 291 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: You're a debate team guy, you're just like full of surprises. Man. 292 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to wind up in 293 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: the oil field. Man, I'm glad God put me here. 294 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: I loved the old field. I loved the old gas industry. 295 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: You know, whenever I was growing up, I didn't want 296 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: to be away from home all that time. I didn't 297 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: want I didn't want to be, you know, like my 298 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: dad exactly like because I rarely saw him. And if 299 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: you think, you know, being around the ol and gas industry, 300 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: there are a lot of men and women who come 301 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: out here to the Permian Basement, or come there to 302 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: the Marcellus, or go to Alaska, or go to Louisiana, 303 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: or go to Colorado or Wyoming, who spend weeks and 304 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: weeks and weeks away from their families so that they 305 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: can work and make a good living, so they can 306 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: support their families, so their kids have everything they never had. 307 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of people in this country 308 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: don't get. They are willing to give our jobs to 309 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: foreign countries with far less environmentally conscious standards, and they 310 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: are willing to kill American jobs. They don't understand the 311 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: sacrifice that the hard working men and women of our 312 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: oil and gas industry make every single day. You know what, 313 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: my friend doctor John Spiers, he ran for Land Commissioner 314 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: here in Texas last year, and he said, Matt, you know, 315 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: we really need to be showing that America's oil and 316 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: gas workers are superheroes and the men and women of 317 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: this industry really are. There's a guy here in the 318 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: Permium Basin that I've tried to get on a couple 319 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: of times whenever I've been on some other interviews. He's like, Man, 320 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: I'd love to be on there, but that's at three 321 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: point fifty am, and I'm headed to location at that time. 322 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's not just some eight am to five 323 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: pm or nine to four job out here. The men 324 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 2: and women who work in the oil and gas industry 325 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: often are working ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen hours a day 326 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: plus sometimes. 327 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: Well, Matt, here's the thing, you know again, Run for Congress, 328 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: run for Senate. It got a chance to tour a 329 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: lot of the oil and gas companies here in western Pennsylvania. 330 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: It was something that was really personal to me. I 331 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: love that industry and I love the people. And you 332 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: realize that all the people that are out there working 333 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: on site on rigs, and you're right, they're working crazy 334 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: long hours. It's super difficult, tough work. These are the 335 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: men and women in this country that keep this country going. 336 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: They're the ones like if you're out eating or you're 337 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: at a bar, the lights are on in that bar 338 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: because there are men and women out there working their 339 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: butts off that keep it that way to make sure 340 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: that we have power, the ability to hear our homes, 341 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: or the ability to fuel our automobiles. And so what 342 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: really pissed me off running was the opposition that they 343 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: faced and the cavalier attitude of many politicians. And I'm 344 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: not talking about just Democrats, although it's mostly Democrats, but 345 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: also some Republicans about the industry, and they trot out 346 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: these talking points all the time about you know, climate 347 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: change bullshit, and it's insulting through the people who are 348 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: out there sacrificing for this to give us what we 349 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: have here. And you're right, I mean oil and gas 350 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: workers who are out there on those rigs every day, 351 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: those roughnecks, I mean, they they are heroes in this country, 352 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: but they're not treated that way. 353 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: That's right. First of all, let me cover a few things. 354 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: Number One, you should be a senator right now, it 355 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: should be Senator Sean Parnell. And one day, Hey, I 356 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: just I think you're a badass. I'm gonna tell you 357 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: that every time I get a chance. I'm so grateful 358 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: when you joined the Advisory board of Oil and Gas 359 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 2: Workers Association, because I just think the world of you. 360 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: Number two, let's talk about climate change. Everything. American oil 361 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 2: and gas workers get blamed for everything. It's too hot 362 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: climate change's too cold climate change, it's too wet climate change, 363 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: too dry climate change. Last year, all my pants shrunk. 364 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that was climate change. It couldn't possibly 365 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: be Southern mad donuts shout out there. But yeah, even 366 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: some Republicans have latched onto this climate change bs. You 367 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: know what people don't understand. And it was Senator John 368 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: Newly Kennedy Louisiana who said, if you kill American oil 369 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: and gas jobs, you only make the problem that you 370 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: think exists worse. You know, here in the United States, 371 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: between two thousand and five and twenty nineteen, American oil 372 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: and gas workers reduced emissions by twelve percent. And the 373 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: great miracle that statistic is that the shell revolution in 374 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: America happened during those years we were booming under President Trump. 375 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: We were drilling like crazy, and we still reduced emissions. Now, 376 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: I saw earlier an article about how Joe Biden wants 377 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: to impose new I guess regulations on the power industry 378 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: and reduce carbon emissions. What are you doing about China? 379 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: And that was one of the things I asked that 380 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: Environmental Defense Fund attorney. I said, you know, China produces 381 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: over twice the annual carbon emissions as the United States, 382 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: and China is not even considered a developed nation yet. 383 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: So while we're focused on well, we've got to be 384 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: cleaner here, we're going to be greener there. We've got 385 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: to reduce emissions. We've got to capture this. One of 386 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: the questions I asked that EDF guy was, who's carbon 387 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: and we captured? He's like, I don't know. Nobody knows that. 388 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: They are fed some talking points. They don't understand how 389 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: to back up their argument. And while we kill American 390 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: ol and gas jobs through what sounds like do good 391 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: environmental regulations, our enemies are going to town and they 392 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: are taking American ol and gas jobs, and they are 393 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: taking over America's global market share. 394 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: You're completely right Okay, so okay, break down the shell 395 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: revolution for people who are watching and listening, help us 396 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: understand what that means. 397 00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 2: Sure, revolutionary technology and in fact, Harold Ham, CEO of 398 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: Cotton and Resources, great man. I love to hear his 399 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: story and a lot of people who really brought in 400 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: some technology that had been developed before, and we were 401 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: able to frack for all, frack for gas, and it 402 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: really brought America towards energy independence because we were able 403 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: to produce more. We were able to get to more 404 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: oil and gas just through innovative technology where we were 405 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: we were able to drill a little bit further and 406 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: I believe we're over four miles that we can drill 407 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: now and inching towards five. So being able to do 408 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: that rather than going all vertical wells, we were able 409 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: to bring out more oil, bring out more natural gas, 410 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: and we were able to extract it faster. That's what 411 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: made America energy duma. 412 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: And it's safe, you know, I mean, and look, this 413 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: is not an infomercial for know like for the oil 414 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: and gas industry, it really is safe. Like I wouldn't 415 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: bullshit people who are watching or listening. You go out 416 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: there and tour some of those facilities, some of those facilities, 417 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: and watch how they measure you know, methane for example. 418 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's like being on the Star Trek Enterprise. 419 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: I mean, it is so unbelievably safe. And all of this. 420 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: We were able to accomplish all of this through market 421 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: based innovations. And none of it happens, by the way, 422 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: without oil and gas workers and executives being committed to 423 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: the environment. So all these purple haired freaks that are 424 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: out there protesting at these green energy nonprofits or at 425 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: these you know, green nonprofits again, many of which are 426 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: subsidized by our global enemies. The people that are working 427 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: in the field on these oil and gas rieks care 428 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: about the environment a hell of a lot more than 429 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: people that are out there protesting on the streets because 430 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: they live and work in that environment every day. Of course, 431 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: they want to protect it, right. 432 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: Right, you know, you know, it's insane the amount of 433 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: uh misinformation that some of these people are. Fit. If 434 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: you're as old as me, some people only know about 435 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: our ol and gas industry, the exon Valdez deep water 436 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: horizon and seagulls covered in all that's what's pumped down 437 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: their throats. We've got a bunch of you called them 438 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: purple haired. I'll see some green hair once, and I've 439 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: seen some bles, some brunettes. Uh, a bunch of kids 440 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: staring at plastic foams yelling we've got to just stop 441 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: ul They have no idea, you know that uh, oil 442 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 2: and gas is in powers of powers or transports, every 443 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: single thing they see in touch. They have no idea 444 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: what they're. 445 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: Talking what's really what's really amazing to me and will 446 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: shift to the policy side of things, which which you've 447 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: we've been talking about sort of since the beginning, because 448 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: the oil and gas industry, as you're as people who 449 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: are watching and listening are learning, is inextricably tied to 450 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: many many policies that, at least in America, harm the industry. 451 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: And what when we push this green energy stuff here, 452 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: right you already you already mentioned that Russia and China 453 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and India they don't care. They don't have emission standards there. 454 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: So if if you're in China, they're putting up one 455 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: or two coal fire power plants every day, they don't care. 456 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: They're doing what's necessary to keep their economy thriving and 457 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: keep their military lethal. Right, But here in America. The 458 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: more we push this green energy, this green energy nonsense, 459 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: the more it actually empowers in the countries like China 460 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: and Russia one for for example, like when we decap 461 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: our our oil and natural gas industry, it makes Russia 462 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: globally the number one provider of natural gas, especially all 463 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: over eastern western Europe. And when you're talking when you're 464 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: talking about green energy, like the rare earth minerals and 465 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: and and some of the mineral that we need to 466 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: create those lithium ion batteries, for example, the lion's share 467 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: market share of almost all of that stuff is held 468 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: in China. So when we shift our entire economy to 469 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: a battery based to a battery based energy industry or 470 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: green energy, we're buying a lot of that stuff from China. 471 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: And if there's ever a conflict, which anyone that's watching 472 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: or listening to this program knows, COVID shined a light 473 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: on a lot of our supply chain issues in which 474 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: China controlled the vast majority of our you know, medical supply, antibiotics, 475 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: critical infrastructure that we were buying from them. We couldn't 476 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: get computer chips, is a good example. So as we 477 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: continue to push this green energy stuff. All we're doing 478 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: is empowering our enemies and hurting our own country. It's 479 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: it's it's mind boggling to me. 480 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, and people don't understand how dangerous that is. 481 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: And you know, if you ever see one of my tweets, 482 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: it is this, Joe Biden is draining our strategic petroleum reserves. 483 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: Crazy what even he called a time of war. It 484 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: is a threat to our national security. He is weakening 485 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: our national security. And Joe Biden also proves one of 486 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: our points every time he every time he releases from 487 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: the spr that more ul is the answer to lower 488 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: gas prices. It's insane that people don't get that those 489 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 2: two things go together. Sean, you're a veteran, a badass veteran. 490 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: By the way, thank you for your service. You know 491 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: we don't get to do Let me just let me 492 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: let me restart that we get to do the things 493 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: we do. We get to live in this free country 494 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: because of you and every other veteran who have laid 495 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: your lives on the line for us. So we appreciate you, 496 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 2: and you can't continue to do what you do without 497 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: oil and gas. Whenever we look at how the United 498 00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: States how ull won World War Two because we needed 499 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: to do it back then and we were able to 500 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: cut off Hitler's supplies. Our supplies are being cut off. 501 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: We can look back on that historically and know that, 502 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, starving people of UHL means they're going to 503 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: lose a war. People need to realize that's what's happening 504 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: to the United States. And we've seen how China is 505 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: taking control of whole nations through investments in their economies. 506 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: One of the things that I've testified on was right 507 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: here in Texas, Senator cold Course, Senate Bill one forty seven. 508 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: You know, to ban China and another hostile foreign entities 509 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: not just from taking control of farmland, but from buying 510 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: lease and investing in and any other way taking control 511 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: of our ool and gas, other mental resources like you 512 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: mentioned those rare earth metals, all water, and associated infrastructure, 513 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: because we don't want our enemies controlling our supply chain 514 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: right here in our country. 515 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: First of all, that the idea that the Chinese Communist 516 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: Party can come to America and buy up large swaths 517 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: of land. First of all, not enough people know about it. 518 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: You would think that would be on the front page 519 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: of every paper in the country or or the lead 520 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: in of every national news network on every show in 521 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: the country every night. It's a huge threat to our 522 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: national security. And the fact that you're standing in the 523 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: breach fighting against that stuff Matt speaks, speaks volumes of 524 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: your character. And and also you know the Oil and 525 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Gas Worker Association of America is leading the charge and 526 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff you talked about our military. 527 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Did you see the Secretary of Energy in the Biden 528 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: administration wants to make all military vehicles fully electric by 529 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: some absurd timeframe, like in twenty thirty five, Like can 530 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: you imagine you know, solar power, solar powered up armored 531 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: Humby's or all electric Humbi's. First of all, how the 532 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: hell do you charge them without? Like how do you 533 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: charge them without a robust oil and gas industry to 534 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: back it up? But what if you're out in the 535 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: field and it's cloudy or you can't get access to 536 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: a charger. I don't understand. And not only that, like 537 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: you know that those vehicles, if they're powered strictly by electric, 538 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: aren't going to be as they're not gonna have the 539 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: power necessary to carry all that armor and you know, 540 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: between five and fifteen troops. It's us all insane like 541 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: this is this is a threat to our national. 542 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: Security to attack yl tomorrow. We're charging our batteries today, 543 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: but we're gonna attack Yell tomorrow. It's stupid. 544 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: You know. 545 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: Last week, whenever I was in Austin and we were 546 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: working on some bills, trying to get them through the 547 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: Texas House, gett into Governor Abbot's desk, and then working 548 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: over a little bit on the Senate side, I got 549 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: the incredible honor invitation to go up to Kaleen. They're 550 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: right next to Fort Hood which is now Fort Cabassos, 551 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: and Lieutenant Colonel Bob Krouch gave me a tour of 552 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: the National Mountain Warter Museum, which the grand openings this 553 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: year November eighth. And I hope that you, Melanie and 554 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: the kids can join me for it. But I want 555 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: to talk about I asked him about this idea from 556 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: the Energy Secretary and the Biden administration. I said, hey, 557 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: what do you think about this whole proposal to make 558 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: all armored vehicles evs and just to really completely change 559 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: our military. He said it won't work, and everybody who 560 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: has half a brain knows it won't work. Unfortunately we 561 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: have Joe Biden. 562 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, I it's concerning. And you know, any 563 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: oil and gas executive or anybody that's working here in 564 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: this country will tell you that. You know, under Biden 565 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: or Obama before him, you know, they're afraid to invest 566 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: in their own companies. They're afraid to buy new equipment. 567 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at the Keystone pipeline, how 568 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: many billions of dollars were invested in that? In Biden, 569 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: like on his first day in office, like with a 570 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: of a pen is like, oh, I'm just going to 571 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: cancel this. Like never mind that the you know, eleven 572 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: thousand plus jobs that are associated with the Keystone pipeline. 573 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: But what about the billions of dollars invested from private 574 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: companies to make the pipeline happen? What about? So how 575 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: do you run a business like that? 576 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: You know? And Biden and his press secretary they keep 577 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: talking about these nine thousand permits. Well, US operators have 578 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: nine thousand permits to drill. What they don't tell everybody, 579 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: and what a lot of people don't understand, is that 580 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: though we need a whole lot more than just those permits. 581 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: Look at the MVP pipeline, which carries natural gas from 582 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: the Marcella shell over into you know, West Virginia, Virginia 583 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: approving that pipeline is necessary in order to be able 584 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: to drill something. Because we can drill all day long. 585 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: What do you do. 586 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 2: We don't have a way to get that to market. 587 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: It's useless. You talked about Joe Biden, and you know, 588 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: he nominated Amarova to be Comptroller of the Currency, a 589 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: woman who said that she wanted oil and gas companies 590 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: to go bankrupt. And then of course we got Janet 591 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: Yell and Biden's Treasury secretary. She's been asking banks to 592 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: defund fossil fuel projects. We've got other agencies being weaponized 593 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: against US Interior deb holland their transportation. And then of 594 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: course the Integer Secretary Jennifer Granham, who has multiple times 595 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: floated the possible reimposition of the crude o Export Band. 596 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: So when people, if they've set themselves against their industry, 597 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: or if they only read certain news sources, they go, oh, gosh, 598 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: these greedy oil companies, when it's not that at all. 599 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: It's that we don't have the takeaway capacity. We don't 600 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: have the pipelines. We don't have the refinery capacity, we 601 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: don't control some of our refineries. We are allowing foreign 602 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 2: countries to dictate USA oil and gas production because they 603 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: own our refineries. 604 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: It's it's insane. I mean, what do you make what 605 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: do you make of of the left's assault on what 606 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: one it was? It was gas stoves, which is just 607 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: ridiculously stupid. And now they're talking about dishwashers and limiting 608 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: people's use of water. And you know, of course the 609 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: left and almost every member of the media, oh the 610 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: New York Times leading the charge on this, so that 611 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: the gas stove band is just a conspiracy theory. And 612 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: then you know, New York comes out and hey, we're 613 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: not installing any more gas stoves in any residential properties. 614 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: It's like, like, clearly it's not a conspiracy theory. Like, 615 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: what what's the end state goal of these organizations? Matt? 616 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: Like what are they? Are they trying to decrease the 617 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: quality of life here in America? Or do they actually 618 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: believe that they're doing some good? 619 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of the people that 620 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: these so called environmental organizations pull in they believe they're 621 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: doing so something good. A couple of years ago, I 622 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: got to talk with a self proclaimed Democratic socialist, an 623 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 2: AOC supporter, and I didn't think I'd ever meet one 624 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: of those in person. This kid was actually intelligent. He 625 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: was from the East Coast, came from a family with money. 626 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: He was in Austin. I was down there for the 627 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: first special session. We wound up striking up a conversation. 628 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: College student. He was headed to the West Coast, and 629 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: he said, oh yeah, I'm an AOC supporter. We talked 630 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: for a while, and I talked about American oil and gas. 631 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: We talked about global emissions, we talked about this issue 632 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: that issue, And after an about an hour of conversation, 633 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: this AOC supporter, this self proclaimed Democratic socialist, said, you 634 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 2: know what, You're right, It doesn't make any sense to 635 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: kill American oil and gas shops. We just have to 636 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: get the information to them. Don't get me wrong, some 637 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: of them are willfully ignorant. You can hand them all 638 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 2: the information in the world and they're still not going 639 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 2: to believe us. But I believe most Americans are unfortunately 640 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: coming to the realization that more USA oil and gas 641 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: production is how we get lower gas prices that hang 642 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: on just a minute. All this stuff, these people told me, well, 643 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 2: that's not true, and so it's the challenge is getting 644 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: information to people. I was talking with Ernie Angelo. He 645 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: was President Reagan's Texas director in nineteen eighty and he said, map, 646 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: the challenge is always getting information of people. We're up 647 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: against a very stacked deck. You talked about the media. 648 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 2: I haven't once seen CNN talk about how killing American 649 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: oil and gas jobs would make things worse. I have 650 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 2: seen them try to say there was Russian collusion, which 651 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 2: we all know wasn't true. I've seen them say a 652 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: bunch of other horrible things, but we haven't heard anything 653 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: true come out of their mouths about American oil and 654 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: gas and how increasing USA oil and gas production would 655 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: actually keep barrels of oil from countries with far less 656 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 2: environmentally conscious standards off the market, and how that would 657 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: be better. Maybe they'll call me one. 658 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things part of the You know, 659 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure that you saw President Trump's town hall and 660 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: CNN and when asked about hey, look, you know, I 661 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: think he took a question from somebody in the audience 662 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: and they were asking about look, my family's basically I'm 663 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: paraphrasing here struggling to pay the bills, Like, what's the 664 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: number one priority for your economic agenda? And Trump replied 665 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: with three words, drill, baby, drill. And Look, while that's 666 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: a simple answer, he's so spot on because what many 667 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: people don't realize is that obviously, over time, our dollar 668 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: has lost tremendous values and now everybody's feeling inflationary pressure 669 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: because of the Biden administration's reckless spending. Now, to be clear, like, 670 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: I love President Trump. Everybody everybody that knows me publicly 671 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: knows that I like President Trump. But he spent a 672 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: lot of money as well. And that's actually one of 673 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: the areas that I disagreed with him a little bit, 674 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: is that we just needed to be more responsible with 675 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: our spending. Nevertheless, what's always been a hedge against inflationary 676 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: pressure in this country economically was our ability to produce 677 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: oil gas, natural gas. And under President Trump, you know, 678 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: inflation was at its lowest level almost ever, because for 679 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: the first time ever, I think within his first year 680 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 1: of his presidency, Matt like, the United States of America 681 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: became a net energy exporter, you know. And and when 682 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: we're producing oil and gas, it's it's good for our economy, 683 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: it creates jobs. I mean, obviously there's a moral component 684 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: here as well, which I think isn't talked about enough, 685 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: because hey, look, if it costs a lot to heat 686 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: your house or put gas in your card, do you 687 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: think it affects the wealthiest one percent or even many 688 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: of the people that are in the middle class. Yeah, 689 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, but it disproportionately affects people who 690 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: are on fixed income or have low incomes. And so absolutely, 691 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: so many different compon to this, Matt, and I think 692 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: so circling back to President Trump's answer of drill baby drills, 693 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: his instincts are spot on. 694 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. Yeah, even under Barack Obama and Joe Biden, 695 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,720 Speaker 2: whenever they were in office for eight years, they rode 696 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 2: American ol and gas workers, our industry, and our jobs 697 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: to better jobs numbers, to better economy, to increased exports, 698 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: and to a booming GDP. They were the beneficiaries of 699 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: the shell revolution in America. And I think it was 700 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen the Barack Obama said, well, you know, 701 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: suddenly the US is the biggest oil producer. And he 702 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: said that was me, folks, I'm thinking no, you just 703 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: got the reward, the benefit of American ol and gas workers. 704 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 2: You wrote our industry to better jobs numbers. Under President Trump, 705 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 2: he supported American ol and gas workers. That's why you 706 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: saw us drilling like crazy. We knew we had an 707 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 2: administration in the White House who had our backs. We 708 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: don't have that right now. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 709 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: have said even from the campaign trail, hey, we're going 710 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 2: to transition away from your jobs. You mentioned something about 711 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 2: foreign countries and a devaluation of the dollar. My friend 712 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 2: Randy Pettigrew, he's a state repover in New Mexico, and 713 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 2: he sing a letter today to US reps and some 714 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 2: other reps there in New Mexico talking about this bricks, 715 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 2: this Brazil rush. You know, they are moving not just 716 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: to make sure they have their own little system, but 717 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 2: also devalue the dollar. We're being attacked from all all angles. 718 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: And if the if the US dollar is no longer 719 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: the international standard of currency. 720 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: We're gon we are in trouble. And all right, so 721 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: let's circle back to you joining like like you're not 722 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: going to be a lawyer, right, You're gonna You're gonna 723 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: jump into the oiling. No, absolutely not jump into the 724 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: oil and gas industry head first. And so you've been 725 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: working in that industry, You've been working in this industry. 726 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: How long? He said, Anybody that's watched this interview for 727 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: thirty seven minutes knows that they're obviously passionate about what 728 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: you do. How long You've been in the industry. 729 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: Since ninety eight minus seven years, So, oh, that's a 730 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: long time. I've been out here in the Permium basin 731 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 2: for the last twelve years, so twelve and seven, nineteen 732 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 2: and probably three before that twenty two years. 733 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, that question leads into 734 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: this one. At some point you realize and I don't 735 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: want to put words in your mouth, Matt, but like, 736 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: at some point, clearly you get inspired to start the 737 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: Oil and Gas Workers Association. And I mean, look, I'm 738 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: on the advisory board here. It's it's you asked me 739 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: to be a part of it, and I said, of course, 740 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: because I believe in you and I believe in the industry. Honestly, 741 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: the oil and gas industry makes the world a better place, period, 742 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: end of story. And the people who support that industry 743 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: help the Oil and Gas Workers Association. What I liked 744 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,479 Speaker 1: about is that it's about the workers. It's about looking 745 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: after those workers who really are the heroes. So let 746 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: me ask you this, how did you get inspired to 747 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: create or where did the inspiration come from to create 748 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: the Oil and Gas Workers Association. 749 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 2: You know, I started OGWA in twenty fifteen because I 750 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: just wanted to take up for American workers and families. 751 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: I just I wanted to put a face on the 752 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 2: industry and remind these radical environmentalists, these extreme leftists, these 753 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 2: ignorant politicians, that it's our jobs that you are willing 754 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: to give to foreign countries. Because there's a lot of 755 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: people they don't care about big Old, they don't understand 756 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: big Old, but they've been told that old, big old 757 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,439 Speaker 2: is bad. They don't care about corporations. They just think old, 758 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 2: greedy corporations. And in all of that, they're willing to 759 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: give our jobs away. And I got sick and tired 760 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: of watching our federal government give our job to foreign 761 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: countries who are propped up with our tax dollars. So 762 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 2: start at OGWA, and it really is to fight for 763 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 2: American workers and families. And by extension, like Larry Hilders says, 764 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 2: we have a country to save, and like my friend 765 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 2: General Flynn says all the time, energy security is national security. 766 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 2: It impacts every single American. It's important to us whether 767 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 2: we are Republican, Democrat, or independent. Supporting USA oil and 768 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 2: gas jobs is an issue that we can all come 769 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: together over because it benefits every American. 770 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: So how can people support you? How can people support 771 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: the organization? Where can we find you? 772 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: Sure? People can find us at ogwausa dot com. If 773 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 2: you'd like to join OGWA, whether you're an individual member, 774 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: a supporter member, or you want to join as a 775 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 2: business for several of your members, you can find us 776 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: at ogwausa dot com, slash joint if you just want 777 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: to make a donation at slash donate. We want you 778 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 2: to stay informed on all of the issues going on 779 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: around this country, not just in Texas or Pennsylvania, but 780 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 2: in California, at the federal level, in Louisiana and North 781 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 2: Dakota and Alaska, because every state in this nation and 782 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 2: the federal legislature it impacts all of us. We want 783 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 2: people to understand more about our role and gas jobs, 784 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 2: to get involved, to get engaged, to show up at 785 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 2: the polls, to make sure that we're electing candidates who 786 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 2: really support American ol and gaswork. 787 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: All right, so break down real quickly. What are some 788 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: of your leading policy initiatives right now? What are you 789 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: fighting for? You mentioned like to stop the cc right 790 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: from buying farmland, that's one. What else you got cooking? 791 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely? In fact, we're headed Austin for the next two 792 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 2: weeks to make sure that we pass Senate Bill one 793 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: forty seven out of the Texas House and get it 794 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 2: to Governor Rabbit's desk for signature. That is the Band 795 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 2: China Bill. We're also rolling that bill out in Ohio 796 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: and in Pennsylvania. Tried to get it into New Mexico 797 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: and Colorado, it was too late to file. We're rolling 798 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 2: that out at the federal level. Some other things. We've 799 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 2: been working with a few people in DC to make 800 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 2: sure that in the negotiations for raising the debt ceiling 801 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 2: that speeding up federal permitting from the HR one lower 802 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 2: energy costs is not cut out of that deal. And 803 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: it was, of course in the bill that the House 804 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 2: of Representatives pass. We're so glad that Speaker McCarthy and 805 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 2: our allies in the United States House of Representatives included 806 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 2: that in the negotiations. Look, we understand that maybe we 807 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 2: have to raise the debt ceiling, and I'm learning how 808 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 2: to compromise. But if we're going to do that, it 809 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 2: makes no sense to raise the debt ceiling and burden 810 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 2: every American taxpayer with more debt if we're not also 811 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 2: going to give American workers and families a way to 812 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 2: pay for it. And speeding up federal permitting and letting 813 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 2: us drill baby drill, like President Trump said, is the 814 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: only sensible solution. We're working with state legislators now in 815 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 2: Louisiana as well as Oklahoma. We're a little bit late 816 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 2: to Colorado. We were working on some issues earlier this session. 817 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: California is under attack, and we've started working with state 818 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 2: legislators out there and in New Mexico. So we are 819 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 2: trying to work in every state we can. If people 820 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 2: want to get involved, we want you to get involved. 821 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 2: This is not a top down push. In fact, that's 822 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 2: how it started. I'm an old field truck driver. I 823 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: just said, hey, you know what, I'm sick and tired 824 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 2: of watching our federal government sell out of American workers 825 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 2: and families. If you want to get involved, with us. 826 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 2: Please send us a message, send us an email, find 827 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: us on Facebook, find us on Twitter. We want everybody 828 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 2: who wants to be involved to be involved because this 829 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: is about every American worker, every American family. This is 830 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:58,720 Speaker 2: about America. 831 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: Brother. You are You're a special guy with a special passion, 832 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: and you know there are gonna be great things in 833 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: your future, great things for the Oil and Gas Workers 834 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: Association and great things for this country. Matt. So thanks 835 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: for coming on. 836 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 2: Man. 837 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time. God bless you, and God 838 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: bless the work you're doing, my friend. 839 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 2: But I appreciate you. Sean. I can't say you enough 840 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: nice things about you. Thank you for all You're welcome. 841 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: Brother. We'll talk to you soon.