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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 5: I can't get.

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Speaker 6: Enough of him.

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Speaker 7: A couple of absolutely self involved Bullshittis he you're your hosts?

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Speaker 2: John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Oh, Frank meor jos Antonio Tarver in a boxing exhibition

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Speaker 6: is coming up next month? Did you know that Ken

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Speaker 6: Flow on the Ben Askron undercard?

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Speaker 8: I did not know that. What is going on?

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Speaker 6: Maybe Frank Muir will provide an announcer with another opportunity

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Speaker 6: to go crazy like he did for us against to

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Speaker 6: Duffy back in the day. Oh is it great to

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Speaker 6: see Ken Flows? Muggets Monday March twenty second, twoenty twenty one.

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Speaker 6: It's episode two ninety three of the Anaic and Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: Teddy Atlas is officially on board now Ken Flow not

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Speaker 6: on board the podcast per se as a listener, but

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Speaker 6: he's watching these UFC fight nights every week, and I

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Speaker 6: think he's realizing, like a lot of people, just how

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Speaker 6: much this sport has to offer, even when it's not

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Speaker 6: high level mixed martial arts across the board, it's just

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Speaker 6: the land of the unpredictable and the weird. And once

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Speaker 6: again a UFC fight night gave us a lot to discuss.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like it. I like that Teddy Antlis is

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Speaker 8: watching all these fights. Uh, but you know, we don't

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Speaker 8: need him on the podcast necessarily because we got Ray Longo.

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Speaker 8: So whatever we do have.

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo, We're gonna ask Ray Longo about this main

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Speaker 6: event between Derek Brunson and Kevin Holland. Will get into

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Speaker 6: it now in headlines and pick up the conversation with

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Speaker 6: Ray in about ten minutes if, of course he answers

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Speaker 6: the wake up call here on a Monday morning, But

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Speaker 6: it was Derek Brunson by unanimous decision Ken Flow over

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Speaker 6: Kevin Holland in what was a twenty five minute main event.

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Speaker 6: And there's a lot to dissect when it comes to

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Speaker 6: Kevin Holland's performance, but let us start with the winner,

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Speaker 6: Derek Brunson, and the UFC wins continue to pile up

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Speaker 6: for this guy, and seemed like largely he knew what

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Speaker 6: he had to do to minimize risk in this particular

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Speaker 6: stylistic challenge and another big win for a good guy.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts on Brunson Holland, Well.

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Speaker 8: I think you just nailed it there pretty much. I mean,

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Speaker 8: there's not a whole lot to say after that. Brunson

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Speaker 8: had a plan and he executed that plan. You know,

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Speaker 8: he knew and understood that his path to victory, or

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Speaker 8: his easiest path to victory was via the takedown and

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Speaker 8: a submission. He was close a couple of times, especially

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Speaker 8: with that arm triangle, but you know, he just fought

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Speaker 8: a smarter fight, you know, the the fifth round a

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Speaker 8: side for the most part, you know, he knew exactly

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Speaker 8: what he needed to do. He was utilizing his striking

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Speaker 8: to set up his takedowns and any time essentially he

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Speaker 8: was taking down Kevin Holland with relative ease. Holland, you know,

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Speaker 8: you know, his game plan basically began and ended with

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Speaker 6: On Twitter at Kenny Florian hostile Ken Flow tweets this week.

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Speaker 6: By the way, not a great main event tonight. One

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Speaker 6: thing was clear. Brunson was there to do whatever he

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Speaker 6: there's the other Ken Flow. We'll get to that code.

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Speaker 6: We'll get to that one. Even know which fun I'm

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Speaker 6: That's okay, So right, I think you hit on a

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Speaker 6: of Teddy Atlas's tweets here at Teddy atlas Reel, and

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Speaker 6: he also tweeted by the way Muhammad Ali talked but

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Speaker 6: punched more in between syllables. Here was the tweet though

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Speaker 6: from Teddy Atlas. Human nature is complex and smart. Everyone

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Speaker 6: feels pressure and doubt different ways to deal with it.

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Speaker 6: Confidence can be deceiving, act like you don't care. Maybe

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Speaker 6: it's a protective device.

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Speaker 3: Lose.

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Speaker 6: It's not that you're not good enough, you just didn't care.

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Speaker 6: Might be part of the story tonight, and I had

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Speaker 6: to make money, and if people don't like him talking

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Speaker 6: change for those people. I just think, like you, I

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Speaker 6: wanted to see more offense. I wanted to see more defense,

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Speaker 6: especially when it came to the defense or lack thereof,

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Speaker 6: off of his back. So what were your overall thoughts

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Speaker 6: on the way Kevin Holland approached this fight, the twenty

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Speaker 8: I would largely agree with Teddy Atlas on his tweet there.

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Speaker 8: I think that Kevin Holland was essentially using all that

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Speaker 8: Talking to them or talking out loud is a great

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Speaker 8: a little bit. Kevin Holland has used that, I guess,

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Speaker 8: with relative success, and is continuing to do that. The

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Speaker 8: much as we've seen in the past. I was just

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Speaker 8: overall very confused by Kevin Holland. And the problem is John,

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Speaker 8: You know, it's very telling. If he is saying that

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Speaker 8: in professional sports. I guess we should all respect that.

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Speaker 8: But if he expects to gain fans or gain a following,

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, like Dana White isn't in the business of

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Speaker 6: as well, But what do you think Travis Luder thought

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Speaker 6: fights in the future. And I do think that he's

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Speaker 6: a guy at welterweight who could get on a championship trajectory.

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Speaker 6: You know, realize a lot of success at one hundred

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Speaker 6: He looks like a welterweight to me. But you're not

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Speaker 6: trying to main event guys who aren't, you know, desiring

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Speaker 6: if this is just sort of fight talk after the fact,

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Speaker 6: but I don't know. I want to see a little

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Speaker 6: from Kevin Holland before you know, all in again on

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. I'll say this, I think

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Speaker 8: he can be a contender at one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 8: fulfilling his potential. Kevin Holland is a talented duties a

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Speaker 8: Why is he saying that and why is he having

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Speaker 6: Fight, right, he could potentially be one of the better

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Speaker 6: the strength and conditioning, he said to us a couple

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Speaker 6: to contend in this middleweight division. And obviously that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 6: And maybe you look at Derek Brunson as not being

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Speaker 6: I just wasn't seeing anything resembling urgency off of his back.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know, like it does take energy and

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Speaker 6: It was very weird to watch.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no exactly, I mean, did we was that the

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Speaker 8: same guy that fought Jock Erray. I mean, he was

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Speaker 8: Now here's the problem. If Kevin Holland went in there

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Speaker 8: I did just ridiculous. I was. I was so close

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Speaker 8: I think he showed some weakness and some vulnerabilities in

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Speaker 8: It was shocking. It was shocking because Leo Santos was

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Speaker 6: Crazy shit happens in this sport all the time. I know,

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Speaker 6: A lot more to get to on UFC Fight Night,

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Speaker 6: Brunson versus Holland, including a big win for Max Griffin

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Speaker 6: and the comain event Ken flows all aboard the Adrian

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Speaker 6: Ray Longo. Let's get to the Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

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Speaker 8: Put a holes fucking shocks. That's what I wanted the Ray.

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Speaker 2: Longo Minute story Ray the John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: As you were saying, we're going to take a little

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Speaker 3: On un business today.

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Speaker 6: Man, Well, you and Ken Flow were having an enjoyable

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Speaker 6: did you get tell me the truth?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 6: I did not.

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Speaker 3: I it's jealousy in there.

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Speaker 6: I haven't been jealous since I was like a high

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Speaker 3: Not even a train tracks the proverbial track.

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Speaker 6: The train tracks the train tracks. So I just figured that, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Shout out to souls? Man.

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Speaker 9: I you know, I think he was a pioneer of

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Speaker 9: this kid, jannas Man who looked absolutely fistic man. That's

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Speaker 3: But uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: If you can get Ken Flow to tweet about you

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Speaker 6: your thoughts on Adrian Yana's knockout of Gustavo Lopez there

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, he's a cold blooded killer man. He looked phenomenal.

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Speaker 8: First of all, just the nuances of that's what everybody

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just adding another guy who not even in the

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Speaker 9: And unlike some guys on this card, he got Joe

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Speaker 10: Hey, my first thing, Joe, I can't tell you how

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Speaker 10: many Ray Longo minute tee sweatshirts I've been seeing either

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Speaker 8: No, that's good.

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Speaker 6: Well, I gotta buy one. I gotta buy one. I'm

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Speaker 6: and Rene. Can't go wrong back in the Iron Army.

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Speaker 6: But it seemed like you were maybe alluding to one

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Speaker 9: Yeah, man, I tell you that that Kevin, that that

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Speaker 9: I just that was just too you know, it's all

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Speaker 6: Perfectly put exactly right, it's all good until that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, I And I honestly, man, I thought

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Speaker 9: Just uh, you know, and hats off to brunts and

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Speaker 8: But hey, I agree, man, listen. It seems like though

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Speaker 8: I don't need to hear any advice. Let me do

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Speaker 9: I know one time years ago, I literally left the

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Speaker 3: I just said, I'm mad here, this is just crazy.

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Speaker 9: But the guy definitely wasn't as talented as Kevin Holland

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Speaker 9: normally would I do in situations like that? For me,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: So if it's working, I'm like, you know what, man,

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Speaker 9: But the second this happens, you're either listening or I

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Speaker 6: Are kidding me? If Kurt Pellegrino started like talking to

438
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Speaker 6: the fans in between rounds, he'd come back to the stool,

439
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Speaker 6: Ken Flow'd be fucking long gone.

440
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Speaker 10: K can talk, though, yeah, yeah, talk during that, But

441
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Speaker 10: Ken Pelagreno he can hold his own in the talking arena.

442
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Speaker 3: I haven't seen years, but I'm sure he's still going strong.

443
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Speaker 6: But if we had fans in the building, Kevin Holland

444
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Speaker 6: wouldn't have been afforded the opportunity to even start up

445
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 6: these conversations. And then maybe he's sitting on the stool

446
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 6: a good pupil, listening to Travis Luter. But what is

447
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 6: going through Trav Looter's mind? Ray right when Kevin is

448
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 6: doing this, I mean, to your guys' point, maybe there

449
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 6: was some pre fight conversation. Look, I'm gonna have fun, guys,

450
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 6: but they were deferential and kind of laid back, and

451
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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, there weren't very many strong

452
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 6: adjustments made by that team during the fight either. So

453
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Speaker 6: I don't know, Man, I didn't enjoy watching this on

454
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Speaker 6: Sunday morning, that's for sure.

455
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, definitely not. And I'm sure Travis Luther was

456
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Speaker 3: in his head.

457
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Speaker 9: He was just saying, he was praying that he just

458
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Speaker 9: catch him with something to knock him out and then

459
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Speaker 9: it erases everything. Then it's all good, right, you know,

460
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Speaker 9: if he would have gotten a win in like round

461
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Speaker 9: three or four, you know, And it was almost like

462
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Speaker 9: it was premeditated that. I think that's what he was

463
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Speaker 9: hoping for, that he would catch him. Obviously not get

464
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Speaker 9: taken down, but there was just like no effort to

465
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Speaker 9: avoid the clin She was falling into him, and it

466
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 9: was clear anytime he hit him, he heard him. That's

467
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 9: a frustration, right right on any level, that's got to

468
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Speaker 9: be frustrating.

469
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Speaker 3: I don't care.

470
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Speaker 6: Smacked him in round two and again, you know, Derek

471
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 6: Brunson since moving to Sanford MMA undefeated again. We could

472
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Speaker 6: do twenty minutes on Derek Brunson, but there's just a

473
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Speaker 6: lot more I feel to discuss on the Kevin Hollands side.

474
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Speaker 6: We were talking about Grant Dawson and Leonardo Santos before

475
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Speaker 6: you joined us with one second ago Ken Flow, and

476
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Speaker 6: I saw two seconds on the clock, but it goes

477
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Speaker 6: into the books at four fifty nine for Grant Dawson

478
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Speaker 6: over Leonardo Santos, and I want to pull up the

479
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Speaker 6: scorecards because round two was close if memory serves round

480
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Speaker 6: one not so much. But here are your judges scorecards

481
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Speaker 6: if you are watching us on YouTube. Grant Dawson was

482
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Speaker 6: up twenty to eighteen on Tony Weeks's card. I didn't

483
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Speaker 6: see round one for Grant Dawson. I know James Krause,

484
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Speaker 6: who did a great job in the corner Ken Flow

485
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Speaker 6: was telling Grant, we don't know what the hell those

486
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Speaker 6: scorecards say. But two of three judges, Junique Chi, Judy

487
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Speaker 6: Chiro Camijo also had it two nil for Grant Dawson

488
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Speaker 6: and then one one from Dave Hagen. So hey, I

489
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Speaker 6: guess Grant Dawson didn't need the finish after all.

490
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Speaker 3: Ken Flow.

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Speaker 8: Wow, Yeah, absolutely shocked. I thought Leo Santos was winning

492
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Speaker 8: to help fight. That is scary to me, and it

493
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Speaker 8: would have been almost a robbery. I mean, it was bad.

494
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 8: Some of those rounds were close, but come on, man,

495
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Speaker 8: I don't know, but either way it didn't matter. Grant

496
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Speaker 8: Dawson got the knockout win. But Cody good job on that, man.

497
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Speaker 8: I had no idea that the judges had Grant Dawson

498
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Speaker 8: winning that fight. I think Grant Dawson would probably disagree

499
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Speaker 8: with those guys like that's crazy.

500
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

501
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Speaker 3: I think they did.

502
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Speaker 9: I think, listen, whatever the hell Krause is doing, he's

503
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Speaker 9: doing a great job because this is like the second

504
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 9: or third time where his guy has been down two

505
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Speaker 9: rounds where he's really rallied that guy to not stop

506
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Speaker 9: in the third round. I think Malque is the Cuban dude.

507
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 9: Remember he got the finish on somebody who was clearly

508
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Speaker 9: losing the fight, and now this guy I had him

509
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Speaker 9: down two rounds. I mean, I don't know what the

510
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 9: judges were looking at, but Krause, I think did it again.

511
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Speaker 9: He said to finish in this in this round and

512
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 9: may not only did he get it, he got it

513
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 9: wanted two seconds to go.

514
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515
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Speaker 6: It's all about you. This is your show. I am

519
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Speaker 6: out of my mind. I am out of my fucking skull.

520
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Speaker 6: Does your mug, say Ray Longo.

521
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Speaker 3: No, that's somebody they turn it around for.

522
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Speaker 6: His mug, says Ray long Ago.

523
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Speaker 3: That was made by a student. But thank you very

524
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Speaker 3: much for the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, all right, so Brunson Holland, we kind of hit on.

526
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Speaker 6: I want to can I just read this Teddy Atlas

527
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 6: tweet to Ray really quickly, Kendell, if you don't mind.

528
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 6: Human nature is complex and smart. Everyone feels pressure and

529
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: doubt different ways to deal with it. Confidence can be deceiving,

530
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 6: act like you don't care. Maybe it's a protective device. Lose.

531
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Speaker 6: It's not that you're not good enough, you just didn't care.

532
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 6: Might be part of the story tonight. That was Teddy

533
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Speaker 6: Atlas's spons on Brunson Holland. And I feel like there's

534
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 6: a lot in there that I agree with that you

535
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 6: sort of it's you know, I've been on a basketball

536
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 6: court at times where maybe I cared, but I pretended

537
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 6: to not care. I think we can all draw parallels

538
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 6: in our athletic career, or maybe the good athletes can't.

539
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 6: But all right, real quick, So I was playing Lawrence

540
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 6: Academy in high school Kent Flow, and they had these

541
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 6: big guards. They could all shoot, and I'm like going

542
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 6: into this game like being a fucking nice guy to

543
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 6: these guys because I know they can get their shot

544
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 6: off over me and it's going to be water. I

545
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 6: know I can't get my shot off against these guys

546
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Speaker 6: because I'm too fat and slow. So I'm like kissing

547
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 6: their ass when I'm playing defense. You know, my head's

548
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 6: not the fucking game. And for whatever reason, Kevin Holland's

549
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 6: head was not in the game. Would you make of

550
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 6: what Teddy Atlas had to say about maybe this sort

551
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Speaker 6: of giving off a vibe that you don't really care

552
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Speaker 6: about the results.

553
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Speaker 3: Uh, well, listen, I think he's right.

554
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Speaker 9: I think it's similar, Kenny, to when your piecing the

555
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 9: guy up and sparring and he starts correcting you on

556
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 9: what you're doing wrong exactly.

557
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

558
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 8: That was good. No, no, you know, but when you

559
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 8: get the submission, make sure you squeeze good good. That's it.

560
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: We've seen that how many times? Seriously.

561
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 9: Yeah, those guys, those guys John normally don't make it

562
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 9: in the gym.

563
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: They get weeded out like real quick.

564
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 9: Right, So it's a to me, it's a variation of

565
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 9: that where I think, you look, it's there's a couple

566
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 9: of funny things here. First off, Derek Bronson's the top middleweight,

567
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 9: no doubt, and basically couldn't do anything to a guy

568
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 9: that laughed at him for twenty five minutes.

569
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Speaker 3: I mean that's the other thing. What did he do?

570
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: You know, like he didn't really inflict any damage.

571
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 6: The guy just that's all, didn't have a scratch on yeah, right, so.

572
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Speaker 3: You know he maybe took a couple of elbows on

573
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Speaker 3: the floor.

574
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Speaker 9: But you know, so that's one thing is that I

575
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 9: think that might be a positive for Holland you really.

576
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Speaker 3: Couldn't get rid of the guy. So even as much

577
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Speaker 3: as we're bullshit and you know he was goofing.

578
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 8: Around, it's a great point.

579
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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, it's almost I compare that to

580
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 9: you know, when you're drunk and you getting the car Chrish,

581
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 9: you don't really get hurt. You're just bouncing around and

582
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 9: it's kind of saves you. And I think he's so

583
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 9: lucy goosey that it helps him, you know, deal with

584
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 9: the with the pressure. So I think Teddy Atlas is

585
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 9: right on. It is almost maybe it was kind of

586
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 9: nicely put.

587
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Speaker 3: He probably.

588
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 9: I'm sure if you got him alone, he'd tell you

589
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 9: exactly what he thought, you know of the guy. But

590
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Speaker 9: I think he he articulated that nice. But I think

591
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 9: that's the case of I agree with him.

592
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: I see it in.

593
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 9: Different ways, like we said at the beginning, but you know,

594
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 9: I look at it on the other end too.

595
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: Man.

596
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 9: You know, he basically laughed at a guy who's trying

597
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 9: to kill him, right. The guy's trying to cut them

598
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 9: out of submit him, and this guy's laughing at you

599
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 9: for twenty five minutes.

600
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: That's got to be frustrating too. Yeah.

601
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 6: I know we've we've hammered this, but it just feels

602
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 6: like such a missed opportunity. Kenny right five and zero

603
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 6: and two twenty. He sets himself up for these big

604
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 6: fights that can really make life a lot of fun.

605
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 6: If you win some of them, you know, it wasn't

606
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 6: out of the rama possibility that he beats Derek Brunson

607
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 6: and potentially gets a title fight here in twenty twenty

608
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 6: one exactly, and again that knockout could have materialize in

609
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 6: round two, and then the whole narratives different. But I

610
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 6: don't know, this is the one that got away. If

611
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 6: you're Kevin hall.

612
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Speaker 8: I think that's what kind of made me so irritated

613
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 8: watching it, because I mean, how many one hundred and

614
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 8: eighty five ers would have loved to replace Kevin Holland

615
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 8: in that situation being in that main event, having all

616
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 8: those viewers and you see a guy who's not really

617
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 8: taking it so seriously or kind of joking around and

618
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 8: then not even putting in the work to actually try

619
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Speaker 8: to get the results. That was the thing. It's one

620
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 8: thing if you are talking, but you're out there actively

621
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Speaker 8: trying to destroy that guy across. It looked like Kevin

622
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 8: Holland was talking and sparring Derek Brunson. Maybe he wasn't

623
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 8: so effective, but Derek Brunson was there to win.

624
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: And he was there whatever.

625
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 8: Kevin holl just that combination kind of is really what

626
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 8: so irritating, And we had to see that for twenty

627
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 8: five minutes.

628
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: There was a lot for me. Look, it's not a

629
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: knock on brunts.

630
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 9: And I'm just making an observation that even this guy

631
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 9: joking around, he comes out of there and he's he's

632
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 9: talking like nothing even happened. When he was talking to

633
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 9: Megan o'lev he was saying, maybe he'll go down to

634
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 9: one seventy or whatever.

635
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: Look, obviously, I think there's not nobody.

636
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 9: I don't think anybody watching couldn't see a way that

637
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 9: Holland wins that fight probably easy, you know, So that

638
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 9: I think that's the frustrating part is like, you know,

639
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 9: the guy had the skill set to do well.

640
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, look, he was lacking in

641
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: a couple of plays, but you saw he had.

642
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 9: The athleticism to do more than what he did and

643
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 9: he just but that's who he is, right, I mean,

644
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 9: he's been doing this right, I think I think it

645
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 9: just you know, it's almost like you put a gun

646
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 9: in a monkey's hand and he shoots somebody.

647
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: Who do you blame? Like you knew what you were

648
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: getting going in there.

649
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 9: Just that he's been doing so well and finishing people that, uh,

650
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 9: you know.

651
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: That it was okay. This one just wasn't okay. It

652
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: was just too long and it was fit all right.

653
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 6: I want to get to Charles Olivera and Michael Chandler

654
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Speaker 6: and the newly announced.

655
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Speaker 8: Is that your stomach or your dog?

656
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Speaker 3: I think? She? What do you do? Look? What are

657
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Speaker 3: you doing? Buddy?

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Speaker 8: Way?

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Speaker 6: Come on?

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Speaker 8: Well, I thought I thought it was going to be

661
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Speaker 8: like a pit bull.

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Speaker 11: Or a Rottwiler.

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Speaker 6: It's a Connie Corso, buddy, Okay, dog can be here

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Speaker 6: for the entire segment. No cat's allowed, incidentally on the

665
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Speaker 6: Anakin Florman podcast, but dogs are welcome.

666
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Speaker 3: Hell, she's always here every show, but this is the

667
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Speaker 3: first time.

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Speaker 6: How about that.

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Speaker 3: I think she's a Keptain Holland fan and she's actually

670
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Speaker 3: pissed off.

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Speaker 6: But there are a lot of those out there, a

672
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Speaker 6: lot of Kevin Holland fans out there. I do want

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Speaker 6: to get to Chandler and Olivera, but before we get there,

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow, did you see Julius Stolia Renkou faint into

675
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Speaker 6: the backdrop at the weigh in on Friday?

676
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Speaker 8: I did. I saw the video of it. Man, that

677
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Speaker 8: was hard to watch. You know, she was clearly trying

678
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Speaker 8: her best to keep it together on the scale. I'd

679
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Speaker 8: be lying if I said I wasn't kind of feeling

680
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Speaker 8: like that for a couple of way ins. But it's hard,

681
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Speaker 8: it's tough, and again it was kind of the hard

682
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Speaker 8: visual that a lot of people needed to see in

683
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Speaker 8: some ways to see what these guys and what these

684
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Speaker 8: fighters are doing to try to make weight. I hope

685
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Speaker 8: she's okay. It seems like she is and she's going

686
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Speaker 8: to be fine, but certainly her body was not happy,

687
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Speaker 8: and fainting like that at that time was tough. It

688
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Speaker 8: was tough to watch, and it's tough for her who

689
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Speaker 8: had She had clearly worked so hard to make the

690
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Speaker 8: weight and to do what she needed to do in

691
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Speaker 8: camp to get this fight going, and she wasn't able

692
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Speaker 8: to perform, which was very unfortunate.

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Speaker 6: Ray, You coaches are put in a lot of hard situations.

694
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Speaker 6: But is there anybody out there who can like be

695
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Speaker 6: the cooler head and like not put the athlete on

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Speaker 6: this scale again, or be there to help her getting

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Speaker 6: off the scale. It's like, I'm watching this all play

698
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Speaker 6: out from Afar, and I'm thinking, man, even if I

699
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Speaker 6: was fifteen feet away with a mask on, I would

700
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Speaker 6: have had this motivation to run up on stage to

701
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Speaker 6: try to help her. But I guess they decided that

702
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Speaker 6: she should weigh and again, thankfully shouldn't fight.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you, you know that, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Listen why White put her on the scale again after

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Speaker 9: the first time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, somebody would have to explain that to me.

707
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Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, that was rough.

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Speaker 9: I mean, and I'll tell you to go down the

709
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Speaker 9: second time really, just you know, fortifies the first you know,

710
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Speaker 9: the first time was wrong?

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Speaker 3: Right, So.

712
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Speaker 8: Not good?

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Speaker 3: Not good? All right?

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Speaker 6: I think it's May fifteenth, UFC two sixty two, Houston, Texas.

715
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Speaker 6: So much news has broken since we were last on

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Speaker 6: the air April twenty fourth, Right mosfeedal Usman IWO live

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Speaker 6: from Jacksonville, Florida, four and a half hour drive from

718
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Speaker 6: right where I am right now, Well ret to CAW

719
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Speaker 6: we'll make it to Jacksonville. But May fifteenth announced a

720
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Speaker 6: couple of days ago Charles Olivera and Michael Chandler for

721
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Speaker 6: the undisputed UFC Lightweight Championship. We'll get Ken Flow's thoughts

722
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Speaker 6: on this, and then Ray we will have you piggyback

723
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Speaker 6: as you see fit. But a lot of people have

724
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Speaker 6: talked about Dustin Poorier in a meritocracy being the most

725
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Speaker 6: deserving guy coming off not just to win over Dan Hooker,

726
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Speaker 6: who Chandler beat, but also a win over Connor McGregor,

727
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Speaker 6: the UFC body of work, Kenny Hall of Fame stuff

728
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Speaker 6: for Poorier, but ultimately they needed this title fight in

729
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Speaker 6: eight weeks. Who knows if there's a rematch clause or

730
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Speaker 6: a trilogy clause for Poorier and McGregor, but ultimately it's

731
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Speaker 6: going to be Charles Olivera with that extended winning streak

732
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Speaker 6: against Michael Chandler, who's want to know in the UFC

733
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Speaker 6: and they will fight for the undisputed title.

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Speaker 8: Listen, you know this one's a tough one for me

735
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Speaker 8: because you know, clearly Dustin Poier is a guy who

736
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Speaker 8: deserves to be there. Michael Chandler has been a fantastic fighter,

737
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Speaker 8: a champion another organization, did tremendous work in his UFC debut.

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Speaker 8: Does he deserve it over a guy like a Poier? No,

739
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Speaker 8: But that's not the way the fight game goes. There

740
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Speaker 8: are politics, there are business decisions that are made, and

741
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Speaker 8: I would maybe go even further, and and you know

742
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Speaker 8: there's gonna be a lot of people who criticize this decision,

743
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Speaker 8: but I guarantee you if you ask Poorier what he

744
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Speaker 8: would rather do. Fight Connor McGregor for several million dollars

745
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Speaker 8: or get the belt and you know, win it against

746
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Speaker 8: someone like OLIVERA. To me, I think the belt isn't

747
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Speaker 8: going anywhere. I think Poorier is probably confident enough that

748
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Speaker 8: he can get it done the third time against Connor McGregor,

749
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Speaker 8: get his money, and then fight for the belt and

750
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Speaker 8: then maybe say goodbye. Porier has been doing this a

751
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Speaker 8: whole like he's been fighting since what he's a teenager.

752
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Speaker 8: A lot of these guys, whether you're a champion or not,

753
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Speaker 8: don't get a chance to make millions of dollars and

754
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Speaker 8: set their family up to be fine for maybe their

755
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Speaker 8: generation and a generation after theirs. Very few fighters have

756
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Speaker 8: that ability to set their family up forever. Dustin Poier,

757
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Speaker 8: perhaps in his last fight, was able to do it

758
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Speaker 8: and could do it and further solidify that with a

759
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Speaker 8: fight against Connor McGregor. And so I think that this

760
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Speaker 8: is what every fighter wants. Yes, they want to be

761
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Speaker 8: world champion. Poitier already has a belt, but I think

762
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Speaker 8: that he would probably rather see his bank account fattened

763
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Speaker 8: more than anything else my opinion.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think people I think Poitier definitely is

765
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Speaker 9: the people's champ at this point, right I don't, I don't,

766
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Speaker 9: you know, so I think he's been like Kenny's maybe

767
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Speaker 9: he didn't say, but he's been around so long.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think. I don't think that's a

769
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Speaker 3: priority right now.

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Speaker 9: I think he already was the champ or the interim champ,

771
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Speaker 9: and he's probably gotten over that and again to get

772
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Speaker 9: a big money fight over that, and you know, I

773
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Speaker 9: think it's probably the way to go, like Kenny said, but.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like a kangaroo court.

775
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Speaker 9: But you know, in the same sense, I'm happy for

776
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Speaker 9: Chandler too.

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Speaker 3: Man is a guy. How lucky is this guy? Man?

778
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: He was with Belatore, You.

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Speaker 9: Don't really see him fighting that often over there, and

780
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Speaker 9: now he comes over.

781
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Speaker 3: He's a great guy.

782
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Speaker 9: He goes to Dubai or wherever to make the wait

783
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 9: right for that to fill in if he has to,

784
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Speaker 9: and then he gets shot, takes the best, makes the

785
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 9: best of that opportunity. Couldn't have done any better against

786
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Speaker 9: a really tough guy that nobody's gotten rid of, and

787
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Speaker 9: he's going to be got a good shot to be

788
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Speaker 9: in the UFC, you know, lightweight champ.

789
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Speaker 3: What a dream? What a what a dream story this is?

790
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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if Dustin Pourrier was offered

791
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Speaker 6: a title fight on May fifteenth against Charles Olivera. I'm

792
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Speaker 6: guessing he was not. I'm guessing that they are going

793
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Speaker 6: to do the trilogy fight. It's interesting, right because I

794
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 6: do believe that there's a big part of Dustin that

795
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Speaker 6: wants to fight for that undisputed title Kenny, and he

796
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Speaker 6: wants what he mentioned Charles Olivera right after the Connor wins.

797
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Speaker 6: So part of me does wonder if he was offered

798
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Speaker 6: the Olivera fight, if he would have maybe accepted it.

799
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Speaker 6: But as far as the fight itself is concerned, you

800
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Speaker 6: know again, and people are gonna have opinions, right if

801
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 6: if they made Connor and Dustin a third time Kenny

802
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 6: for the undisputed lightweight title, people would cry foul and

803
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Speaker 6: say that Connor's not deserving. Right now, people even are

804
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 6: suggesting that Charles Olivera is not worthy because of his

805
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Speaker 6: strength of schedule, despite the fact that he's won I

806
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Speaker 6: think eight in a row at one hundred and fifty

807
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Speaker 6: five pounds. So what do you think about this fight

808
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 6: and the fact that Charles Olivera is about a minus

809
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Speaker 6: one seventy five favorite right now to become the UFC

810
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 6: lightweight champ.

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Speaker 8: I think it's an excellent fight. I do think that

812
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 8: he poses a lot of problems for Michael Chandler, who,

813
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 8: you knowv has done some great work by taking his

814
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 8: opponents down and pounding them out. I think he's gonna

815
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Speaker 8: think twice about doing that against someone like a Charles Olivera. Also,

816
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Speaker 8: Olivera isn't an easy guy to deal with on the

817
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 8: feet these days, so I think Olivera may not have

818
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 8: the strength of schedule that say other guys have, but

819
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Speaker 8: it is going to still give him a tremendous amount

820
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Speaker 8: of confidence and momentum and experience heading into this fight

821
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Speaker 8: against Chandler. So this is not an easy fight for

822
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Speaker 8: either guy. I'm really curious to see how it goes down.

823
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Speaker 8: I'm still intrigued by it. People will still tune in,

824
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Speaker 8: especially given you know Olivera and Chandler. Both of these

825
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 8: guys took advantage of the spotlight. I mean, Olivera could

826
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Speaker 8: not have fought a better fight against Tony Ferguson, and

827
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Speaker 8: the same can be said for Chandler, who came in

828
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Speaker 8: in his UC debut and beat a very different guy,

829
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Speaker 8: a very difficult guy who a lot. You know, I

830
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 8: thought he was going to be a tough tough out

831
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Speaker 8: for for Chandler based on his height, his reach, all

832
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 8: that stuff. So anyways, you know, it's gonna be an

833
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 8: awesome fight. I think this is a great matchup, and

834
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Speaker 8: I think Poorier is going to make significantly more money

835
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Speaker 8: in his match against McGregor than he would in the

836
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Speaker 8: title fight to be a world champion of the UFC.

837
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Speaker 8: So everybody kind of wins here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, uh, this is gonna be an This is an

839
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Speaker 9: interesting look. I think Chandler physically fit, mentally, very strong.

840
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Speaker 3: I think you got to kill him to get rid

841
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Speaker 3: of him.

842
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 9: I kind of go back to Felder versus Olaveriro, where

843
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 9: Felder just really broke him, like just with physicality.

844
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 3: That's what scares me in this fight.

845
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 9: Chandler can do that probably for fifty minutes straight, you

846
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 9: know what I mean. He's physically I don't think there's

847
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 9: a better specimen in that He's got the wrestling pedigree.

848
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: Obviously, he hits hard. This is a this is a

849
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: really good fight.

850
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Speaker 9: But John, getting back to your point, they could have

851
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 9: had Dustin fight either of these two guys with the

852
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 9: you know, maybe hoping that he would win and then

853
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 9: do the McGregor fight for the title.

854
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: I think would even be.

855
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Speaker 9: Bigger, right I'm saying they offered. My guess would be

856
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 9: they did offer to fight to Dustin and he didn't

857
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 9: want it for whatever reason. You know, he's busy, he's

858
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 9: got his things going on. He just made a shitload

859
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 9: of money. He's riding high and he and like Kenny said,

860
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 9: he'll take that third fight. But there's nothing wrong with

861
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 9: having him fight for that title. If he wins, then

862
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 9: you have a huge fight for the title with my greg.

863
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 9: I would think that's what Eva McGregor wants, you know

864
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 9: what I mean?

865
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, in the.

866
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Speaker 6: Route to go no, that all makes sense. And I

867
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Speaker 6: do believe if they said, hey, Dustin eight weeks Houston,

868
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Speaker 6: Texas Michael Chandler, He's going to say no because he

869
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 6: was very specific with the names he mentioned after beating

870
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Speaker 6: Connor in the names he didn't mention, and he just

871
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 6: didn't believe that a guy who was want to know

872
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 6: in the UFC was worthy of an undisputed championship opportunity.

873
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 6: But that's exactly what is going Michael Chandler's way. Right

874
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 6: before we get you out of here, Jorge Mosfiedal is

875
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 6: getting another shot at Kamara Ousman April twenty fourth. But

876
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 6: what do you guys think about fans by the way,

877
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 6: fifteen thousand strong Jacksonville, Florida gonna be wild. I better

878
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 6: get a fucking vaccination soon here. I think that's the

879
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 6: key super spreader event. April twenty fourth.

880
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: That's what Widman told me. Goes, Oh, it's going to

881
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: be history.

882
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 6: Oh that's right, you got to be there.

883
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 9: I got history. I might as well stick my head

884
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 9: in the COVID beehive kind of history?

885
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: Is that? Now? I think you're right John and I

886
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 3: even though.

887
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 9: I think my antibodies hold up till somewhere in April.

888
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah.

889
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 6: I got to talk to doctor Florian about expediting a

890
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 6: Johnson and Johnson single dose vaccination for the play by

891
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 6: play announcer here.

892
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 9: That sounds good, but uh, I'll be getting there early.

893
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: So what part of Florida you live? I'm just gonna fly.

894
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 6: Right, hey, if you want to accompany me on the drive.

895
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 6: You fly into West Palm Beach or Fort Lauderdale or Miami,

896
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 6: I will pick your ass up and we will drive

897
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 6: to Jacksonville together.

898
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: I tell you, I count on that.

899
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 6: I just don't bring any smelly hockey pads.

900
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: Smelly hockey pad.

901
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 6: I mean MMA equipment or whatever you got.

902
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: This guy, You know what we are. We gonna pack

903
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: the car.

904
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 6: You fucking pack the car and have a chat. All right,

905
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 6: that's the ray long go minute anything else before we

906
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 6: let you fly.

907
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: Anything. I don't even know everything.

908
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll see a couple of weeks removed from Al

909
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 6: Jamaine Sterling and Pyotr Jan and we have Ballal and

910
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 6: Leon Edwards and all that controversy, and then Kevin Holland

911
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 6: and Derek bruntson it mixed martial lots man. It's just

912
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 6: the gift that keeps on give it, you.

913
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 9: Know, unbelieving that the the hatred has slowed down a lot.

914
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: So that's good. Good, Yeah, oh yeah, no, that was good.

915
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 11: You're getting off the game.

916
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 8: The haters are getting off the game.

917
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 9: I don't even know when was that fight two weeks ago?

918
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 6: My brain has scrambled too.

919
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: It is it's brutal. Every day is running into the

920
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: and that the next day.

921
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 9: It's literally crazy. But uh, but somebody did. I'll tell

922
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 9: you a funny story. Somebody DM me. They said, do

923
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 9: you teach acting classes at the gym? So I never

924
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 9: respond to anything, but I just couldn't control myself. I said, oh, yeah,

925
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 9: definitely call the gym and ass for Lee Strasberg. Nobody

926
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 9: knew what the fuck I was talking about.

927
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's good.

928
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 8: Ray If you're missing any of the insults, just let

929
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 8: us know. We'll insult you for the next few weeks.

930
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 9: No, no, serious, you can't penetrate me at this point. I'm like,

931
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 9: te exactly totally impossible. I'm gonna say, do you miss

932
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 9: your hair?

933
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: No?

934
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't miss looking at that fucking

935
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 6: dirty mop. We gotta go, Raymond, anything else, buddy, we

936
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 6: gotta go. We love you so much. Thanks for being

937
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 6: a part of the show. Coming up on three hundred episodes.

938
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 6: I lookford to seeing you next month. And oh, stepe

939
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 6: A Francis very close fight. Well, I know you're picking

940
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 6: step A. He's a slight underdog right now. What are

941
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 6: your thoughts on the heavyweight championship coming up here? In

942
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 6: five days.

943
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 9: I think the more they make him an underdog, the

944
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 9: more he finds a way to win. That's what I think.

945
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 9: I think he's that guy. I think it'll be. I mean,

946
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 9: I'm hoping it's a repeat of the first fight. Yeah,

947
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 9: I think that's gonna be the same thing. But there

948
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 9: is not a more scary, dangerous guy than Francis and Gano.

949
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 9: So that's off to Steve A. I wish him the

950
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 9: best and I think he's uh. I think he gets

951
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 9: it done again.

952
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 6: I'm good with any result as long as it's not

953
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 6: like an inadvertent ipoke in round one or like an

954
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: illegal knee or something.

955
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: You know.

956
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 6: Oh h right, Raymond, thanks for the contribution, and we

957
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 6: will talk to you next week.

958
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, take it easy there.

959
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 6: Here's a very long a minute every week here on

960
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 6: the Anakin Florian podcast. And I'm wondering if Cody will

961
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 6: let me do the pronunciation of the week right now.

962
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 6: I really want to do it. This man is fourteen

963
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 6: and four as a professional fights out of Poland. Cody Merrow,

964
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 6: It's good to see you. Where many, by the way

965
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 6: of our pronunciation of the week entries have come from

966
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 6: this fighter, though this weekend, trying to avoid a third

967
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 6: straight loss. He draws Modestus Bokowskis of the USC's light

968
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 6: heavyweight division. Cody, thanks for making the show look exponentially

969
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: better just by showing up. How do you pronounce this

970
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 6: fighter's name?

971
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: Though?

972
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 6: Ah see? How do you take the wind guy's name?

973
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: Bro?

974
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 6: You took the wind right out of my sales? Because

975
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 6: that's what I was going to say.

976
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 8: I'm coming on.

977
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 7: I'm looking at Ian right here, looking so mad at

978
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 7: me because I'm taking a spot.

979
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 8: I'm really quickie, and don't worry.

980
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 7: I believe the fighter you're speaking of is mihaw olek Seychuk.

981
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 7: So I have the pronunciation file. Here we go, Kenny,

982
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 7: how did I do?

983
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: Me? How?

984
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 12: Lordchuk?

985
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: Me?

986
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 12: How Lordchuk?

987
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 8: That's close, he says, like a chuk at the end.

988
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 12: Right lord ochuk Chuk.

989
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 6: So I was gonna just reset the standings and give

990
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 6: Cody one to oh almost regardless because of the whole

991
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 6: Seatyle Gone debacle several months ago. I mean, it's a

992
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 6: no for me. You know, it's mikol ok Shaichuk. It's

993
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: not alek Seijuk, it's shade chuk. So uh syllable syllabic

994
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 6: emphasis was pretty good. But that's owen one for me,

995
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 6: Ken Flow, do you think good enough for you?

996
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 8: That's fine, that's fine. I like Cody, so I just

997
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 8: feel bad. I'd like to see him start the year

998
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 8: one to oh but uh, all right, that's fine.

999
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: We'll go on one.

1000
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 8: It will make him stronger, he will have to battle

1001
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 8: back from adversity.

1002
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 6: Hey, we either win or we learned.

1003
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 7: But I'm not on here. I'm not on here for

1004
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 7: my pronunciation. That's why we have you, Kenny. I'm here

1005
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 7: for my studying.

1006
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: Good lay.

1007
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 7: But with that, with that, I know we gotta get

1008
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 7: some pick. So I'm gonna get out of here, John, right, all.

1009
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 6: Right, Cody's out of here. And see I'm trying to

1010
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 6: pay you the compliments, so you don't have to compliment yourself.

1011
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: Brother.

1012
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 6: That's what I'm here for, all right. Hen Parker is

1013
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 6: waiting in the wings. Let us get to the main

1014
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 6: event challenge.

1015
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge.

1016
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: We'll do It's the.

1017
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 4: Main event challenge to John Hannick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1018
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 6: Well, the tournament's in full swing and the action has

1019
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 6: not disappointed, although I can tell you my account hurting

1020
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 6: after the opening weekend, I had Illinois winning the whole

1021
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 6: thing and they got bounced in the second round. Or Roberts,

1022
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,959
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Speaker 6: eight hundred and nine. With it all right, we now

1049
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 6: welcome in the duck at Ian Parker MMA. Not much

1050
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: to a date on the standings, fellas with all those

1051
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 6: fight cancelations, Raderick Dell and Gregor Gillspie going away tied

1052
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 6: to Avasa losing his opponent. But Ryan Tracy repping Team

1053
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 6: Anna did win the week. It was one nil. So

1054
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 6: the overall lead is thirty one to twenty seven. As

1055
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 6: we come up on UFC two sixty Miaschich versus in

1056
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 6: Ghanu two and Ian Parker, it's nice to see you

1057
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 6: so April twenty fourth, Jacksonville, Florida. You're making the short

1058
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 6: drive from from the palace in Parkland or what.

1059
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 13: No, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the walk from my

1060
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 13: kitchen table to my my couch. I have the best

1061
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 13: seat in the house and not play play a little.

1062
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 11: Russian Roulette rushing all right?

1063
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: Right?

1064
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 13: You know, by the way, I will say that, ad reed,

1065
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 13: you just did was a work of art. You remind

1066
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 13: me of the Hot Wheels guy back in the day,

1067
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 13: the micro machines.

1068
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 11: You you you and the mustache too.

1069
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 6: Well, thank you man. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

1070
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 6: I was kind of hoping that you would be, uh

1071
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 6: my road dog, my partner headed to Jacksonville, Florida. But

1072
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 6: I can understand why you're not in any great rush

1073
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: too spreader event with fifteen thousand strong here in the

1074
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 6: COVID hot hotbed of Florida.

1075
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 8: What I'm here for, Johnny, Yeah, it would be a

1076
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 8: fun road trip.

1077
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 13: I just feel like I'm not going to get a seat,

1078
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 13: so I'll pretty much be like your uber driver. And

1079
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 13: now that I know that Ray might be coming one

1080
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 13: hundred percent, he's gonna have some smelly equipment. I caught

1081
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 13: that last bit. I'm gosh, but you want to know

1082
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 13: something though. If you do do a road trip with Ray,

1083
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 13: I feel like you have to go pro camera in

1084
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 13: the front windshield. That entire thing had he had some

1085
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 13: nice lines at the end of that. The COVID be's nest.

1086
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 13: That was a pretty good one.

1087
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 6: That was good.

1088
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 8: That I was good.

1089
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 11: I appreciated that. Yeah, I did.

1090
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 6: All right, Well, we'll see. We'll get you to an event.

1091
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 6: I don't even know if I'm gonna have my two tickets.

1092
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 6: I do get two tickets contractually to all of the

1093
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 6: events that I call, but I don't know how it

1094
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 6: is going to work this weekend. But if you need,

1095
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 6: if you need a way in the building, you let

1096
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 6: me know. All right, we got four or five picks

1097
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 6: to make today. So, as many of you know, Alexander

1098
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 6: Volkanowski versus Brian Ortega is no longer on this fight

1099
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 6: card COVID nineteen issue on the Volkanovsky side, so we

1100
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 6: have one title fight as we sit here on Monday,

1101
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 6: we don't know what the co main event is, so

1102
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 6: we shall see. Will it be O'Malley Almeida, will it

1103
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 6: be Luke and Woodley? I don't know, but we got

1104
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 6: some picks to make. We'll begin Ian with William Knight

1105
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 6: minus one fifteen versus Alonzo Menifield minus one zero five.

1106
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 6: This fight initially scheduled for late February, but there was

1107
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 6: a COVID nineteen situation on the Menafield side. William Knight

1108
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 6: nine and one, Alonzo Menafield nine and two, Ian Parker,

1109
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 6: Who do you have?

1110
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 11: I really like William Knight here, I really do.

1111
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 13: From the Contender series into the UFC so far, he

1112
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 13: keeps getting better and better. And what we're seen with

1113
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 13: Menfield is just everything Kenny and I talked about that

1114
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 13: he shouldn't be doing, you know, and the cardio is

1115
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 13: not getting better. The power if he doesn't knock you

1116
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 13: out in the first few seconds or first minute, you

1117
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 13: know what. The path of victory is here and sing

1118
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 13: osp even knock him out was kind of a crazy situation.

1119
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 13: I think William Knight has the tools to get this

1120
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 13: fight to the ground where we know that's where the

1121
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 13: biggest advantageer would be, and he's got the power to

1122
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 13: knock him out. Two we've seen him go three rounds

1123
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 13: of cardio. To me, this is a steal at minus

1124
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 13: one fifteen. Give me William Knight all day in this

1125
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 13: one can flow.

1126
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 6: William Knight, off a big UFC debut on Fight Island,

1127
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 6: took Alexa Camerzo back in September. Close fight. As far

1128
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 6: as the bedding line is concerned, can flow?

1129
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: Who you got?

1130
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 8: Well, you know, it's not like Menfield isn't capable of

1131
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 8: winning this fight. He's got a lot of power. He

1132
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 8: could definitely land that big shot, there's no question. But

1133
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 8: you know, listen, I agree with Ian here. I think

1134
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 8: Knight should be able to win this fight. He's got

1135
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 8: to be careful early in this fight, and as the

1136
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 8: fight progresses he has a better and better chance of winning.

1137
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 8: So I like Night here as well.

1138
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 6: That's a prelium fight could find its way to pay perview.

1139
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 6: We shall see next up for US at lightweight Comma

1140
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 6: Worthy minus one forty five Jamie Mlarkey plus one twenty five.

1141
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 6: So Worthy's one seven of eighty and he's thirty four

1142
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: years old out of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Malarkey the underdog on

1143
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 6: the other side, twenty six out of Central Coast Australia.

1144
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: Pretty tough kid, skilled kid, trains under Ross Pearson, or

1145
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 6: at least his bio says he does. But Malarkey's still

1146
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 6: in search of his first UFC win Ian Parker. Two

1147
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: easy names to pronounce here, Worthy Malarkey. Who do you have?

1148
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: Right?

1149
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 6: They're words, They're actually words, So this should be right

1150
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 6: in your wheelhouse.

1151
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: Wow.

1152
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 13: Hey, uh, see you guys later. No, but uh you

1153
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 13: know it was fun one and want him out? No,

1154
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 13: you know what Malarkey is really tough. You know we've

1155
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 13: seen it in his last fight that he could hang

1156
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 13: in there, he can bag, he could really go the distance.

1157
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 13: I think for Kama Worthy off that last fight. You

1158
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 13: know again, it's hard when you lose very quickly to

1159
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 13: see and when you win very quickly to really see.

1160
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 13: His fight against the Lolli's panging, in my opinion, was

1161
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 13: where we saw him at his best, full three rounds,

1162
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 13: get in the submission.

1163
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 11: The striking.

1164
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 13: I still think Worthy has some juice left in the

1165
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 13: tank at this age. I hate to say that's old.

1166
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 13: It's not old, just kind of late start in the UFC.

1167
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 13: I do like him here if you can keep the

1168
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 13: fight standing. I think he's a more technical striker. I

1169
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 13: do think he has the ability to land on top

1170
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 13: and a scramble, which I think he'd be the better

1171
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 13: to be on top of the situation, so I'm not

1172
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 13: overly confident in this pick. I could see if Kenny

1173
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 13: goes Malarkey, but I'm gonna go with Kama Worthy on

1174
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 13: this one.

1175
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 6: Ken Flow, Kama Worthy, Jamie Malackey, who do you have?

1176
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, listen, I like Worthy here as well.

1177
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 8: I've seen much more of Worthy than I have Malarkey.

1178
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 8: I think Malarkey's got some potential, but I'm still a

1179
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 8: little raw in my opinion. And like he had said,

1180
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 8: he can win for sure, but I think Worthy's experience

1181
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 8: is the difference here. I think he's a little bit

1182
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 8: more polished as a fighter. And uh, I like Worthy

1183
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 8: here as well.

1184
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 6: A bunch of Ma Lackey, both of you guys picking

1185
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 6: I'm such a fucking dad, right, such a terrible joke,

1186
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 6: and now I'm swearing and offending your kids on the

1187
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 6: back end.

1188
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: Just terrible.

1189
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna need to mount it in around.

1190
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 6: What's that flow?

1191
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 8: You got to balance it out?

1192
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 6: I know, try, I'm trying. I actually did a podcast recently,

1193
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 6: I think punch List MMA shout out to those good dudes.

1194
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 6: But uh, before the show, I said, Hey, I mean,

1195
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 6: are we swearing here? Like and He's like, well, you know,

1196
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 6: my ten year old daughter is actually a big fan

1197
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 6: of yours. But yeah, you can swear. I'm like, oh god,

1198
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 6: so I got to reel it in a little bit.

1199
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 6: Not today though, right, fuck it e and hah fuck

1200
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 6: it right? All right, next fight, we'll need the round

1201
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: of the method of victory because this could be the

1202
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 6: co main event. Shan O'Malley minus three hundred, are you

1203
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: not enjoying the festivities today? Ian Thomas Almeida plus two fifty?

1204
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 6: Little trivia here off the top. When was Thomas Almada's

1205
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 6: last win? Ian?

1206
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: You know, oh god.

1207
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 6: November two thousand and sixteen against Albert Morales.

1208
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 13: I was gonna say, was that before the Cody garb

1209
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 13: Brand fight? Yes, right before? Right, Yeah, that was when

1210
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 13: Almeida was the big prospect and then Cody sent them

1211
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 13: to the shadow realm.

1212
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 3: Yep.

1213
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 6: I remember last time I called a fight that Thomas

1214
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 6: Almeada won. Vitor Belfort was the headliner in sal Polo

1215
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 6: back in twenty fifteen, so it's been a while. On

1216
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 6: the other side, we have Shan O'Malley coming off a

1217
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 6: disappointing loss to Cheeto Vera. Otherwise he had a huge

1218
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 6: twenty twenty though as such he's a big favorite as

1219
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 6: usual Sean O'Malley or Thomas almeda Ian and how do

1220
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 6: they get it done?

1221
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 11: And by the way, of course, I'm enjoying the festivities.

1222
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 13: I just laugh when you talk about how there's a

1223
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 13: ten year old who's a fan of yours, so that

1224
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 13: what that means is by the end of the show

1225
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 13: he or she is cursing and probably reading the High Times.

1226
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 11: So I mean, and.

1227
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 13: I'm not you know, I'm not worried about your cursing,

1228
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 13: but every time you're like, oh, I'm just fucking stoned.

1229
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 6: You know, it's right, You're right.

1230
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 13: Fair, What ten year old's watching this show? That's ridiculous.

1231
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 13: Good for them though, they learning how to.

1232
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 6: Smoke, so be their last episode. Unfortunately, if you keep going,

1233
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 6: so do you have do you have a prediction?

1234
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 13: I guess that's what I'm here for. I might as

1235
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 13: well talk about that and not kids with drugs.

1236
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what?

1237
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 11: For me in this fight, this has to be Sean

1238
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 11: O'Malley in this one.

1239
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 13: This has to be his bounce back when I understand

1240
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 13: that he thinks he's undefeated still, which is a little

1241
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 13: mind boggling.

1242
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 11: Then again, it could be due to Wed.

1243
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 13: But uh, look, he's got all the skills to still

1244
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 13: be a top guy. There's no question Cheeto Barrow just

1245
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 13: landed those kicks and you know, did some damage, and

1246
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 13: it can happen any fight we've seen. The calf can't

1247
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 13: be the true tell tale of twenty twenty. It's just

1248
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 13: a damaging thing that guys don't know how to really

1249
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 13: check properly or defend. And at this point it's no

1250
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 13: secret anymore. I think Thomas Almeida though, unfortunately for him,

1251
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 13: he keeps losing because he's not changing anything up. You know,

1252
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 13: when he got to where he was, he was knocking

1253
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 13: people out, and then once he got stopped by Cody,

1254
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 13: it's just been a downward spy for him and no changes.

1255
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 13: And I'm sure maybe Kenny could shed some land on this.

1256
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 13: When you lose so many times, if nothing changes, nothing changes,

1257
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 13: I don't see where he gets better. I don't see

1258
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 13: how he improves. I think O'Malley has. We didn't see

1259
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 13: anything that would show me the he's a lesser fighter.

1260
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 13: In his last fight, Sean O'Malley wins this by second round.

1261
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 6: TKO last fight for Thomas Almada against Jonathan Martinez. It

1262
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 6: was a losing effort thirty to twenty seven times three.

1263
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 6: In October, kemp flow, Does Almeida have anything for Sean

1264
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 6: O'Malley this weekend or you're going shocky with Sean O'Malley, Listen.

1265
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 8: I think Almeida has something that perhaps O'Malley doesn't. And

1266
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 8: I'm saying perhaps, but Almeida has proved his toughness. This

1267
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 8: is a guy who is absolutely willing to go out

1268
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 8: on his shield. He's as tough as they come. Now,

1269
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 8: many times, our biggest weakness or our biggest strength is

1270
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 8: our biggest weakness, And I think Olmeida sometimes leads with

1271
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 8: his toughness when he should be leading with his technique.

1272
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 8: Now O'Malley is probably the exact opposite. O'Malley is a

1273
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 8: very technical fighter. He's got the reach as well, and

1274
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 8: he knows how to use it. If O'Malley fights the

1275
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 8: way he should and does have an answer to the calfkick,

1276
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 8: because in my mind, that's the first thing that al

1277
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 8: Made is probably gonna throw. I mean, you're fighting a

1278
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 8: taller ranger fighter. You don't want to get hit with

1279
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 8: his ranging strikes.

1280
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: You take out that.

1281
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 8: Lead leg, and it usually comes in the form of

1282
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 8: the calfkick. You gotta believe that Almeida is going to

1283
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 8: use that to his advantage. We'll see if he's able

1284
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 8: to do it. But I do like O'Malley here. I

1285
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 8: do think he's the more technical fighter. Almeida just gets

1286
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 8: hit way too much for my liking. His defense has

1287
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 8: never been his strong suit. I think that's gonna be

1288
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 8: his undoing here against O'Malley. I like O'Malley. I'll go

1289
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 8: third round TKO instead of second round. That's what I

1290
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 8: was gonna do. But let's go third round TKO O'Malley.

1291
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 6: Third round TKO for Sean O'Malley to pick to click

1292
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 6: for Kenneth Floorian and that brings us to a fight

1293
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 6: that could also be the co main event. Vicente Luke

1294
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 6: modus two sixty Tyron Woodley plus two hundred Ken Fow.

1295
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 6: We'll have you lead us off here. Vicente Luke is

1296
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 6: twelve and two in the UFC with eleven stoppage wins.

1297
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 6: Twelve and two in the UFC with eleven stoppage wins

1298
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Speaker 6: for Vicente Luke. I'm not gonna say it a third time,

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Speaker 6: but criminally underappreciated. He is starting to get the big fights.

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Speaker 6: Last win against Randy Brown August first of last year.

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Speaker 6: For Woodley, his last win came against Darren tillback in

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Speaker 6: twenty eighteen. He had the Colby Covington fight ribb injury

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00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: back in September. Ken Flow, what do you think about

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Speaker 6: the former champ Woodley in this spot against Vicente Luke

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Speaker 6: and ultimately how do you see a planet?

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Speaker 8: You know, this may be a kind of do ward

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Speaker 8: dye moment for Tyron Woodley. I think that he obviously

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 8: has had his history with the UFC and kind of

1309
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Speaker 8: having a couple losses in a row. Now it's his

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00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 8: back is against the wall, so I think he really

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Speaker 8: has to have a special performance here against Luke, and

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Speaker 8: that's not going to be easy, Vinjette. Luke is well rounded,

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Speaker 8: He's good everywhere. He's a guy that can submit you.

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Speaker 8: He's a guy that can knock you out, and he's

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Speaker 8: got a lot of tools in which to do that.

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Speaker 8: He's not just a boxer or a kicking guy. He

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 8: can do a lot of things on the feet. The

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Speaker 8: problem with Luke, though, you know, similar to Almeida, is

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Speaker 8: that he's not so defensively sound, and he does get

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Speaker 8: hit now he's got the chin to back it up.

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Speaker 8: But how many shots like from an overhand right from

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Speaker 8: Woodley can he survive? I don't know. Woodley has a

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Speaker 8: tremendous amount of power when he lets his hands go.

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Speaker 8: He's also gonna be tough for Luke to kind of

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Speaker 8: you know, it's gonna be tough for Luke to put

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Speaker 8: him on his back. But he does have a lot

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Speaker 8: of intel and info given that Gilbert Burns, one of

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Speaker 8: his one of his closest training partners and friends, you know,

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Speaker 8: just has a win over him. So you know, I

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Speaker 8: think Luk can win. I'm gonna go with Woodley here.

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Speaker 8: I think Woodley realizes how big this moment is for him,

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Speaker 8: and I think Woodley at some point does catch VINCENTE

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Speaker 8: Luke and gets the finish. Uh, let's go with round

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Speaker 8: to Tarron Woodley.

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Speaker 6: How about it? Ken Flow goes with T wood the

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Speaker 6: plus two hundred dog Round two knockout or t ko

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Speaker 6: Ian Parker.

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Speaker 3: The floor is yours.

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Speaker 11: I think Kenny just chose another friend in them Kome.

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Speaker 8: He is my friend. I'll admit that.

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Speaker 13: No, listen and I sponsored Tyrone Woodley in Strike Force.

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01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 13: You know, he's a great guy, and I know John

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01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 13: Went is some his Halloween epic costume. Look here here,

1344
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Speaker 13: here's my issue with Woodley. That overhand right is way

1345
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 13: too predictable. It's he, It's just he. You know when

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Speaker 13: it's coming. So for Luke, if he could not see

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Speaker 13: a telegraph punch, then yeah, he's fine. But here's the

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Speaker 13: other we also saw when it came to Woodley. He

1349
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Speaker 13: was taken down way too easily in his last two fights.

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Speaker 13: And Luk is a black belmb BERSI on in jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 13: He's a smart fighter and also normally his biggest weakness

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01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 13: is he's willing to get into brawls and Woodley's not

1353
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 13: a brawler. Wooley's striking has been woodley striking, sorry, has

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Speaker 13: been very hesitant. And with a guy like Luke who

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Speaker 13: could throw the out, who's gonna throw those calf kicks

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Speaker 13: and you know the inside light kicks everything. I just

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Speaker 13: think this is Luke's time. I don't know if Woodley

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Speaker 13: has it anymore. I don't he really wants it anymore.

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Speaker 13: I think it's maybe to get as much as he

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Speaker 13: can before he leaves.

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Speaker 11: So I'm gonna go Luke.

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Speaker 6: By decision Vicente Luke by decision for Ian Parker in

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Speaker 6: what could be the co main event. Either way, you

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Speaker 6: can see it live on pay per view at USC

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Speaker 6: two to sixty this weekend. My favorite part of the

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Speaker 6: show is not Ray long Ago, I love you Ray,

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Speaker 6: But my favorite part of the show is when I

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Speaker 6: get championship main event predictions from you guys, and when

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Speaker 6: we have a fight like this that is so close

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Speaker 6: between Francis and Stepe at least on paper in terms

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Speaker 6: of the betting line. I am just fascinated to see

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Speaker 6: which direction you guys are going to go in Francis

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Speaker 6: and Ghanu minus one thirty steep A Miya Chich plus

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Speaker 6: one ten little backdrop. First meeting January twenty at twenty

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Speaker 6: eighteen dateline, Boston, Massachusetts. It was steep A by unanimous decision.

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Speaker 6: Francis I thought was was tough to survive, but didn't

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01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 6: really have anything in terms of answers for steep A

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 6: on the ground. Last fight overall for in Ghana was

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Speaker 6: UFC two forty nine May ninth of last year, and

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Speaker 6: of course for stevee can Flow. His last three training

1381
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 6: camps have all been centered around Daniel Cormier. So the

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01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 6: last guy that STEVEE fought that wasn't named DC was

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 6: of course Francis in Ghana. How do you see this

1384
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 6: fight plan out Ian Parker and ultimately who will leave

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01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 6: Las Vegas as the UFC's un disputed heavyweight champion.

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Speaker 13: You know from me when it comes to Francis, it's

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01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 13: still hard to really know what he will do against

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01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 13: a strong wrestler like Stepe because when you see him

1389
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 13: fight Rosenstrike, you go back and look, he just was

1390
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 13: swinging for the fences and hopes that one of those

1391
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 13: would hit, backing up his opponent, and eventually one connected.

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01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 11: In Rodenstrike died.

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Speaker 13: But it doesn't mean that I've seen you know, it's

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01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 13: he just hasn't fought anyone else like Stepa and what

1395
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 13: we saw. Steve B knows what he has to do.

1396
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 13: There's no secret here. We don't want to brawl, we

1397
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 13: want to get the fight to the floor. I still

1398
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 13: think he can. I think there's I always find value

1399
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 13: in the champion as the underdog, and in this situation,

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01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 13: I think you have a power striker versus a warrior.

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01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 13: I think Stevee is just as tough as they come weak. Listen,

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 13: my issue with Steve Bay's chip is not fantastic. He's

1403
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 13: been dropped way too many times in his UFC career

1404
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 13: that we know if Francis does touch that will he

1405
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 13: be able to recover in time. That first round's tough

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01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 13: because Francis will be at his strongest with his cardio

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01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 13: and we'll be able to defend a takedown here and there.

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01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 13: I still think STEVEE gets this done. I think he

1409
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 13: knows what he has to do. I think he's a

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01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 13: smart fighter. I like the changes he made in the

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,479
Speaker 13: second fight against DC.

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01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 11: You know, you know, and I.

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 13: Just, man, it's hard because Francis is just such a

1414
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 13: scary guy and that power is unmatched. But I'm gonna

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01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 13: go STEVEE by decision. I think he wrestles him, wrestles

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01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 13: him to death.

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01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 6: Here, Kenny, what he got, kid.

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01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 8: So you know, when I look back and watch some

1419
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 8: of Francis's fights since the steep A fight, you know,

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 8: he hasn't had a lot of them, certainly, and he

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 8: wins very quickly, but in the manner in which he

1422
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 8: does it, it's still coming down to his physicality. Francis

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01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 8: I ganu is one of the more athletic, one of

1424
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 8: the more powerful heavyweights that we have ever seen. I

1425
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 8: think he only needs one shot to win this fight.

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 8: That's what makes it so intriguing and so exciting to me.

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 8: But it's very difficult for me to make a prediction

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01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 8: based on just that one shot, and I think Stepe

1429
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 8: has many more ways to win. I also think that

1430
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 8: Stepe looked better and better during that fight against Anghanu.

1431
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 8: He was learning as he was going, and I think

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01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 8: he's gonna feel that much more comfortable in his approach

1433
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 8: against someone like Francis and Ganho.

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01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 6: Again.

1435
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 8: You know, the problem is the hardest thing to learn

1436
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 8: and the thing that takes the most amount of time

1437
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 8: is grappling. It takes a lot of sensitivity. You got

1438
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 8: to make sure you have the best coaches in the world,

1439
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 8: all those things. It takes a lot of time. Is

1440
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 8: frances and Ghano gonna be good enough with his wrestling

1441
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 8: to stop Stepe Miocic at this point in their careers.

1442
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 8: I don't think so. I think Stepe wins this fight.

1443
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 8: I even think that step A will be able to

1444
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 8: get a finish. I'm gonna go with third round as well.

1445
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 8: Here TKO, But Francis is as dangerous as they come.

1446
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 8: I just I don't see the same kind of technical

1447
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 8: approach from Francis and Gannod that I would like to see.

1448
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 8: He was wild as all get out in his last

1449
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 8: fight against Rose's strike. He could have easily been the

1450
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 8: guy getting knocked out as well. Right, you can't just

1451
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 8: rush forward and throw punches and expect to land them

1452
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 8: like that now against another striker. Hey, you know what,

1453
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 8: Francis is going to be faster and more powerful than anybody.

1454
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 8: He's willing to take that trade at this point in

1455
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 8: his career, and maybe that's the right approach. Again, someone

1456
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 8: like Stepe, I don't think it's the right approach.

1457
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: Can he win?

1458
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 8: Sure he lands a shot, he could put a Bowld asleep,

1459
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 8: But I think Stepe gets the win here.

1460
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 6: Could you imagine if Stepe adds a second win over

1461
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 6: in Ghanu to this heavyweight legacy as it stands already?

1462
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 6: Can't wait to see it play out. If you want

1463
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 6: more content from Ian Parker, hashtag who doesn't it's at

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01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 6: Ian Parker Mma. Hey, thanks buddy, I know it's been

1465
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 6: a challenging week for you on a number of different levels.

1466
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 6: But we appreciate you manning up as you always do

1467
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 6: and great insight and knowing that you and Ken Floor

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 6: both on Stepe is going to make this a very

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01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 6: interesting main event for me to watch Cage Sat On Saturday.

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Speaker 6: So have a great weekend. Uh, we will see you soon.

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Speaker 13: I just want to point out that was not my

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01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 13: dog barking either. I just want to throw that one out.

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01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 13: I know, I don't want to No, no, no, I can't.

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01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 13: I can't be blamed for that.

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Speaker 6: That's the mansion next door. That's the other mansion across

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 6: the street, right, it's.

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Speaker 13: The Florian Foundations, the fountains of Florian. When you walk in,

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Speaker 13: you just get triangle show done by the gatekeeper.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, buddy, Hey thanks for watching next week later,

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Speaker 2: All I have to do is bet on the.

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Speaker 11: And I'll never remember.

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Speaker 2: John Anak and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Podcast All Right, Big Monk two pay per views for

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Speaker 6: the MMA Leader and now joining us from oddshark dot Com.

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Speaker 6: Sports betting analyst Joe Osborne on Twitter at Jtfoz and

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Speaker 6: paper chaser. Joe is just a must follow on Instagram. Joe,

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Speaker 6: It's good to see him on Man. So thought we

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Speaker 6: were going to have two title flights to discuss with you,

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01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 6: but Volkanovsky and Ortega has been postponed, at least for now.

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Speaker 6: Francis and Ghanu Steve a Miachiz, Francis holding as a

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Speaker 6: slight favorite in most spots. Kenny and Ian Parker on

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Speaker 6: our show just moments ago both picked Steve Bay to

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01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 6: get it done in the rematch. How do you handicap

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01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 6: this main event? And ultimately do you have a side

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01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 6: this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it's a side that I feel very strongly about.

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Speaker 5: So you take a look at Francis and Ghanu. Right,

1508
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 5: he's got everything you could ever want in a superstar heavyweight.

1509
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 5: You know, he's got the look, he's got a cool

1510
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 5: background story, he's got that incredible power that's translated to

1511
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 5: this incredible highlight reel. But let's not check cod of

1512
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 5: for a second. Guys, he got his ass kicked in

1513
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 5: that first fight, right Like, he had a few moments

1514
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 5: early on, connected on a few shots. By the minutes

1515
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 5: four through five, he basically had nothing for Steep Bay,

1516
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 5: and Steep Bay was incredibly impressive, incredibly well rounded in

1517
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 5: that fight. He landed forty nine significant strikes. He landed

1518
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 5: on seventy three percent of attempts too, That right there

1519
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 5: is very impressive, and he landed six or fourteen takedown attempts,

1520
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 5: so very well rounded performance from him. Then you look

1521
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 5: at Francis. His accuracy was awful. He connected on just

1522
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 5: eighteen percent of significant strike attempts. And check this out

1523
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 5: in runs two through four, he landed six total significant strikes. Right,

1524
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 5: So you take a look at that first fight, and

1525
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 5: then the question to me becomes, how can you possibly

1526
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 5: warrant making Francis the favorite in this fight after that

1527
01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 5: performance versus the greatest heavyweight of all time? So you know,

1528
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 5: where I'm going with this. I'm on stepe A. I

1529
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 5: like him quite a bit, so I think Francis Is

1530
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 5: he's the exact same threat coming into this fight as

1531
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 5: he was going into that fight. You know, once again

1532
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 5: he's coming off a string of impressive KO victories. But

1533
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 5: the big difference this time, Steve Bay knows the path

1534
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 5: to victory and he knows how to get there because

1535
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 5: he's done it before. You know, He's just not going

1536
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 5: to stand in front of him and let him tee

1537
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 5: off and go toe to toe with him. That'd be

1538
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 5: an awful strategy. Of course, the first few minutes of

1539
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 5: this fight are going to be dangerous. But you know,

1540
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 5: the two big takeaways from Francis's performance in that first

1541
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 5: fight are his cardio wasn't up to par and his

1542
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 5: takedown defence wasn't very good. So the five fights that

1543
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 5: he's had since that loss to step A neither has

1544
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 5: been tested. And that's not necessarily his fault. Right, He's

1545
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 5: coming off four very quick wins, but we have no

1546
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 5: evidence whatsoever that he can defend to take down and

1547
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 5: no evidence whatsoever that his conditioning has improved. So it

1548
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 5: is a real mystery here, right, We have no evidence

1549
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 5: of it whatsoever. So I'm all over steep A here.

1550
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 5: I love him quite a.

1551
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 8: Bit, you know.

1552
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 5: Will I be shocked if Francis clips him early? No,

1553
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 5: not really, because that's what he's done. He's one of

1554
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 5: the best ever at clipping people within like the first

1555
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 5: couple of minutes of a fight, right. But I just

1556
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 5: think step A is way too smart, and like I said,

1557
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 5: he knows the path. The victory's gonna lean on him.

1558
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 5: He's going to try to tie him up. He's going

1559
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 5: to try to get him to the brand, and then

1560
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 5: we're gonna see where Francis's conditioning is after that. And also,

1561
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 5: if you're like me, if you're like Kenny, if you're

1562
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 5: like Ian Duck Parker, and if you like steep A,

1563
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 5: I think that I think that also lends itself towards

1564
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 5: a longer fight. And the over under for this one

1565
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 5: sitting there at one and a half rounds with the

1566
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 5: over minus one thirty five, I think that's a pretty

1567
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 5: good spot right there as well. So I like Steepe

1568
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 5: to retain by John Jones in the Fall. Maybe the

1569
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 5: over at minus one five both both pretty good spots.

1570
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 11: I don't know how you make Francis a favorite here.

1571
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 5: It makes no sense to me.

1572
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I have said that I feel like

1573
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 6: he's gonna be the favorite against any man in the

1574
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 6: world just because of the physicality. But I understand why

1575
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 6: all sharp opinion that I have solicited, at least to

1576
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 6: this point early in fight week, has been on the

1577
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 6: steep bay side. And yeah, maybe if you want to

1578
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 6: sweat a little bit less, you go under excuse me,

1579
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 6: over a round and a half and then you cash

1580
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 6: your ticket and don't have to worry about that. In

1581
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 6: Ghanu right hand for twenty five minutes. Left hands pretty

1582
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 6: powerful as well. The one thing we do know in

1583
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 6: terms of evidence Kenny on Francis and Ghana if you've

1584
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 6: been following him on Instagram, is that he can take

1585
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 6: a pretty good body shot. I can't understand for the

1586
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 6: life of me why this is like good practice. You know,

1587
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 6: I asked my trainer and he didn't give me a

1588
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 6: strong opinion one way or the other. Why does this

1589
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 6: benefit Francis and Ghano to perpetually take harder shots to

1590
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 6: the body than he is ever going to experience in

1591
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 6: a fight. Why is this good for him to be

1592
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 6: doing well?

1593
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 8: I think it's entertaining, right, But also I think for him,

1594
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,799
Speaker 8: I'm sure he's kind of curious. He's like, what happens

1595
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 8: if I get you know, maybe a smaller guy, but

1596
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 8: a professional boxer who's going to try to hit me

1597
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 8: in the stomach, or another UFC guy he's gonna try

1598
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 8: to hit me in the stomach. It's both a test

1599
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 8: of maybe his mental fortitude, his strength, and it also

1600
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 8: makes it pretty entertaining. We're all kind of waiting for

1601
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 8: someone to be like, can Gano be hurt?

1602
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:28,839
Speaker 3: Is he human?

1603
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's gonna be entertaining him. Steve is gonna

1604
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 8: try on Saturday night.

1605
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 6: I should do a video my daughter Tatum hitting me

1606
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 6: in his stomach. We'll see if she can knock me down. So,

1607
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 6: Joe pretty lean fight card overall. I mean, the pay

1608
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 6: per view is strong. It's going to be interesting to

1609
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 6: see how promotionally they shake it out now that that

1610
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 6: Ortega Volkanovsky fight has gone away. But any other betting

1611
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 6: opportunities peak your interest here at UFC two sixty.

1612
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough to find some good betting spots here,

1613
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 5: especially early in the week. Here, there's not a whole

1614
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 5: lot of props out, you know, lots of interesting fights, though,

1615
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 5: you know, Tyron Woodley, is this it for him? You know,

1616
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 5: he's looked pretty flat in his last couple of performances,

1617
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 5: pretty big underdog. As a result of that, I don't

1618
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 5: really have a whole lot of interest there, Sean O'Malley

1619
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 5: going to try to bounce back against Almeida, whose career

1620
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 5: is just falling off a cliff that kind of came

1621
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 5: out of nowhere. Not a whole lot of value there,

1622
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 5: but one pretty good value spot, A pretty interesting light

1623
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 5: heavyweight fight. Alonso Menafield versus William Knight, and I like

1624
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 5: Knight pretty much a pick him here minus one ten

1625
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 5: and it's kind of a case of two fighters going

1626
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 5: in different directions. We're working off small sample sizes here,

1627
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 5: but that's always a case when you're handicapping MMA. That's

1628
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 5: what can make it very challenging at times, right, And

1629
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 5: Menifield's one of these guys in the past couple of

1630
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 5: years I was wondering, you know, he showed some signs.

1631
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 5: I was like, is this guy going to break through

1632
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 5: to get into that top ten, top five the division?

1633
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 5: And it's started to look like probably not.

1634
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 8: At this point.

1635
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 3: You know, two.

1636
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 5: Consecutive losses one decision one KO against OSP and the

1637
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 5: big takeaway in that one is he was out landed

1638
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 5: in the significant striking department by fifty eight total strikes

1639
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 5: across those fights. And then we take a look at

1640
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 5: Night here nine and one in his career. He's coming

1641
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 5: off a pretty impressive win, I thought, versus a previously

1642
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 5: undefeated fighter, he showed how well rounded he was in

1643
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 5: that one. He won the significant strike battle thirty eight

1644
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 5: to seventeen, landed four or five takedowns well stuffing three

1645
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 5: or four. And this is something I always have on

1646
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 5: my radar. I do think that the UFC sees something

1647
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 5: in this guy a little bit and maybe a guy

1648
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 5: that they can push a little bit. He's got to

1649
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 5: do a lot of that work himself and wins some

1650
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 5: fights and do it impressively. But you know, two stints

1651
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 5: on the Dana White Contender series both knockout victories there,

1652
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 5: So I think that's a pretty good spot there. Pretty

1653
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 5: close to even money. I guess had two guys going

1654
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 5: in different directions, but I like Knights in that one

1655
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 5: quite a bit.

1656
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,440
Speaker 6: Good stuff. Joe Osborne you can find him at JTFOZ

1657
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 6: at Paper Chaser Joe and at Odd Shark Doc. I'm

1658
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 6: guys and bets still going strong. Always good to see

1659
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 6: if my man you brighten my pay per view week

1660
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 6: and uh we will talk to you, uh, I guess

1661
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 6: at advance of UFC two sixty one here next month,

1662
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 6: my man, Thanks for the time, guys.

1663
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 5: I got to get some sign. I don't know if

1664
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 5: it's a lighting a lot, but I'm just looking at

1665
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 5: you guys with your nice hands. I'm up here in Canada.

1666
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 5: This snow is finally starting.

1667
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 8: To thaw away.

1668
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, I got it. I gotta get some sign.

1669
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 5: I'll blame it on the lighting in here, though, right, I.

1670
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 6: Blave it on the lighting. And I will say that

1671
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 6: I just went to Sea World and it was really

1672
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 6: fucking hot, and so that's what you're saying.

1673
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, you gotta move south absolutely all right, guys, Well,

1674
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 5: thank you very much for having me. Thank you, good

1675
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 5: luck on the call Saturday, and good luck tell the

1676
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 5: listeners as well.

1677
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 3: Thank you. My man.

1678
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 6: There he is Joe Osborne with us in advance of

1679
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 6: every UFC pay per view event. I still I got

1680
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 6: to talk to my guy Eric Nixic about these body shots.

1681
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 6: I think that they have passed the point of no

1682
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 6: return where there is no longer a benefit to this.

1683
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 6: And I will say too in closing on the Nganu

1684
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 6: stepe front, I think if you're betting the Francis in

1685
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 6: Ghanu side, exercise some patience see if this sharp opinion

1686
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 6: actually results in a betting line move. And you may

1687
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 6: also want to wait and find a Francis in Gano

1688
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 6: knockout prop because right now, yeah, I mean, and not

1689
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 6: a lot of the betting outlets release these propositions like

1690
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 6: I can't find a Francis in Ganu by knockout prop

1691
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 6: out there right now. But if you're betting Francis, you know,

1692
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 6: maybe you get him plus one thirty by knockout and

1693
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 6: it's minus one thirty on the money line. So I

1694
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 6: don't know, but we got a big one coming up

1695
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1707
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1710
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1711
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1713
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