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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. Late Kick is Live. It is

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. It is May fourteenth, the year of our Lord,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Believe it or not, here we are yet

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Speaker 1: again with a jampacked show tonight. We're really happy to

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Speaker 1: have you with us. If you're watching live, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: hit the subscribe button, hit that light button. And if

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Speaker 1: you're listening on the Late Kick Podcast, we really appreciate

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Speaker 1: that too. We've had a ton of traffic there. Those

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Speaker 1: numbers continue to grow. There was this rumor, Colin, you

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Speaker 1: remember this rumor a couple of months ago, when this

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Speaker 1: stuff first hit and people said, oh, no, one's going

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Speaker 1: to have anything to talk about. They were half right, friends,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people out there struggling right now.

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Speaker 1: This show does not fit that description, largely because of you. Because,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, if you missed the Late

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Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast, which we drop on Wednesdays yesterday, I

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Speaker 1: had every intention of cutting that off after about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: I was fifty four minutes in still answering your questions,

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Speaker 1: because you guys deliver consistently better questions than topics I

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Speaker 1: would normally come up with. So you guys have done

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Speaker 1: as good, if not better a job at driving this

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Speaker 1: than I have. I just I'm smart enough to follow

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Speaker 1: you because I'm smart enough to know you know what

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Speaker 1: you like better than anybody at any network knows what

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Speaker 1: you like. Tonight, I am going to talk about briefly

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Speaker 1: a number of your questions that you've submitted, but also

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start the show off in just a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes with the next three years so pivotal.

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Speaker 1: Not just for Alabama though that's the team that we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about, but over the next three years,

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Speaker 1: it's so pivotal what Alabama does in relation to the echo,

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Speaker 1: the ripple effect, if you will, that it has over

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Speaker 1: the rest of the sport. So I'm going to hit

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Speaker 1: you with that in just a second. I've also got

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Speaker 1: a really good question. Viewer questioned about JJ McCarthy. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know who that is, it's a five star

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Speaker 1: quarterback six two five out of New Jersey. He's committed

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Speaker 1: the twenty four to seven composite for this upcoming cycle.

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Speaker 1: The question was very simple. I love these they're one liners.

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Speaker 1: It was is he worth the hype? And my answer

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Speaker 1: there is only going to have a fractions to do

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Speaker 1: with JJ McCarthy and a lot more to do with Michigan,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna deal with that. There is this report

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Speaker 1: out today. It's pretty substantiated considering the source that you

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Speaker 1: could be dealing. You, the viewer, could be dealing this

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Speaker 1: fall with fake crowd noise in football games. If we're

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Speaker 1: looking at empty stadiums, possibly virtual fans in the stands. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know that sounds all cool. And the bells and

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Speaker 1: whistles if you can afford them in those twenty five

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Speaker 1: million dollar production trucks, that's what those things are worth.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you've ever walked outside the stadiums

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Speaker 1: that turn into studios twenty five million dollars a pop.

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Speaker 1: Imagine the pressure on those drivers. But do you want

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Speaker 1: fake crowd noise or do you just want one season

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Speaker 1: where you suck it up by at the bullet and say,

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Speaker 1: all right, well we're gonna hear things we've never heard before.

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Speaker 1: Get your ear must ready. So we got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about tonight. I'm also man, I'm I've got

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Speaker 1: doesn't go off the rails like that. How about the

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Speaker 1: next three years at Alabama? What are they going to

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Speaker 1: consist of? What do you think where do you think

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Speaker 1: Alabama is twenty twenty one, twenty two and beyond. A

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Speaker 1: lot of you watched the Clemson National Championship game when

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Speaker 1: of you thought the dynasty was starting to wane, not dead.

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Speaker 1: Only the fringe minority said oh, it's over now, But

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Speaker 1: coming off a little bit. We've never seen them blown

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Speaker 1: Their rosters largely look like Alabama's roster. They don't just

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of you may perceive Alabama to

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Speaker 1: If it's that easy, I mean, if it took ten

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Speaker 1: It's all about defense because that's where they were vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: That's the defensive coordinator at Alabama. I cannot tell you

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Speaker 1: Why in the world is Pete Golding still the defensive

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Speaker 1: That was crazy to suggest five years ago. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's the deal because Pete Golding's still on your staff

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Speaker 1: And what Nick Saban said, And you're going to see

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Speaker 1: some of it Sunday night. Is Hey, when we did

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Speaker 1: doesn't that sound so basic, doesn't that sound so common sensical?

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Speaker 1: people are over here questioning Pete Golding, and when you're

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Speaker 1: And that's why I think and I agree with this sentiment.

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Speaker 1: the why. And the bottom line is take the LSU game.

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Speaker 1: week for all of y'all who want to bang on

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Speaker 1: Pete Golding and listen. He's got a lot to proof

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Speaker 1: and everyone's got a lot to prove every year. Success

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Speaker 1: You got to keep succeeding. You got to keep winning.

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Speaker 1: So Pete Golding hasn't even done it yet, much less

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban has been who. You may go, prough It,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you do that in your own mind.

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Speaker 1: Haven't been many of them have there? Kirby was there

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Speaker 1: How would Kirby done? How would Jeremy Proud have done?

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Speaker 1: Last year? Given all the injuries they had? How much

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Speaker 1: better would the production have been? I think Nick Saban's

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Speaker 1: the changes they did make, and now we talk about

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Speaker 1: the next three seasons. As the lower third indicates, if

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Speaker 1: a lot of you are doctor Matt Ray David Blou

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Speaker 1: that new strength and conditioning duo, and you're going to

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Speaker 1: hear a lot more about them from the headman himself

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Speaker 1: coming up when we released this full interview. Here's a

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Speaker 1: of people inside the University of Alabama knew last year

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Speaker 1: strength and conditioning. LSU bypassed them. Some other programs did too,

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Speaker 1: first find out that asteroids headed towards Earth, and they

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Speaker 1: ask about the impact, and they're saying, what are we

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Speaker 1: talking about wiping out the Eastern seaboard. We're talking about,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, an inconvenience for some major cities for

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Speaker 1: a couple of months. Well, no, it's a global killer.

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Speaker 1: It's an extinction level event. Well then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you realize, obviously we can't have one of those.

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Speaker 1: This is in a lot of ways an extinction level

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Speaker 1: event for a major conference. If it can happen to

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Speaker 1: the big boys, it can happen to anyone. So it

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Speaker 1: in and of itself has a ripple effect throughout the sport.

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Speaker 1: It is very much a shame that you have to

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Speaker 1: deal with it, but you got to deal with it,

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Speaker 1: and you better get the most creative minds and innovative

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Speaker 1: minds in the room all around the same table. Lock

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Speaker 1: them in there and don't let them out until they

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Speaker 1: have a feasible way that we can safely play football

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Speaker 1: from coast to coast this fall. So I was looking

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Speaker 1: through the Twitter inbox a couple of weeks ago, had

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Speaker 1: a question about a kid named JJ McCarthy. Some of you,

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Speaker 1: if you're a hardcore recruiting fan or a Michigan fan,

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Speaker 1: you know the name. If not, you may not. But

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Speaker 1: anytime we have a hyper nuanced question, I try and

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Speaker 1: expand it to where it's relevant to you if you're

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Speaker 1: an Ohio State fan or a North Carolina fan. And

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Speaker 1: so that's what I wanted to do with this question.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, I was asked by

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Speaker 1: Butch in the Twitter inbox follow me on Twitter if

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Speaker 1: you don't already at Late Kick John, and he said, essentially,

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Speaker 1: is the hype real surrounding JJ McCarthy. So who is he?

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Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know. He's a six

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Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety five pound, five star pro style

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Speaker 1: quarterback out of New Jersey. Michigan has recruited the New

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Speaker 1: Jersey area very well. He's got a very very good arm.

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Speaker 1: He is our number fifteen overall composite player in the

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports Composite. He is a Michigan commitment.

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Speaker 1: This is not a kid who's on campus. It's for

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Speaker 1: the upcoming cycle, the twenty twenty one cycle. So I

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Speaker 1: told Butch at the time I could just read our

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Speaker 1: scouting report right off a computer screen on camera for you,

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Speaker 1: and I could pass that off as an answer. But

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do some due diligence, so I reached

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Speaker 1: out to a couple of our national recruiting guys and

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Speaker 1: regional recruiting guys, and I wanted to ask about JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: I need to know about him as well, so I

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Speaker 1: asked who is he? And consistently the feedback that you

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Speaker 1: got from people close to Michigan and then people who

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Speaker 1: have scouted him in person is big game. You can

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Speaker 1: count on him. He's had a lot of clutch moments

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Speaker 1: already in his high school career. He's not necessarily a

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Speaker 1: huge mobile threat, but and he's very comparable to Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow in this way. You can count on him to

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Speaker 1: extend plays, and when plays break down, he's good enough

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Speaker 1: with his legs and good enough with his vision to

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Speaker 1: use his lower half to stay upright and use his

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Speaker 1: upper half to keep his focus and vision downfield. So

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Speaker 1: he's a guy who can extend plays. He's got an

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Speaker 1: elite mind and an elite arm. Those are most of

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Speaker 1: the boxes that you want checked. The only real concern

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Speaker 1: that as far as I can tell that they have

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Speaker 1: keeping him from being a freshman all American. Is is

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Speaker 1: he strong enough? I mean, is he is he wiry?

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Speaker 1: Or is he built physically to handle the rigors of

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Speaker 1: a twelve game season, a full Big ten schedule. And

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Speaker 1: if he's got that, then he checks all the other boxes.

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Speaker 1: And you got to figure even if he comes on

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Speaker 1: campus and doesn't have it immediately. I mean, these folks specialize,

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Speaker 1: They've been doing it for a million years. They can

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Speaker 1: put fifteen or twenty pounds on you, so they will

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Speaker 1: do that. And so it's not an if, but it's

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Speaker 1: a win with JJ McCarthy. But is he worth the hype?

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Speaker 1: That was the question. Because you can have all the

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Speaker 1: tools in the world, you go to the wrong program,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You're either washing out or you're transferring in

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. So my answer as to whether

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Speaker 1: this kid is worth the hype is directly tied to

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Speaker 1: Josh Gaddis. Is Josh Gaddis worth the hype? You remember,

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Speaker 1: Gaddis was the wide receivers coach Obama, and then Jim

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh plucks him and makes him his offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: Ann Arbor at the time a lot of people were

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Speaker 1: not necessarily in tears to see him leave Alabama. They

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Speaker 1: didn't think that he was equipped to be a successful

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Very mixed results year one. They certainly did

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Speaker 1: not hit the ground running at Michigan. I think they

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Speaker 1: showed a lot of promise towards the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: but the juries, to me still kind out. I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair to say. If Josh Gaddis were sitting right here,

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Speaker 1: I think it would be fair to say to him,

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Speaker 1: I think the jury's still out on whether long term

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Speaker 1: you're going to turn Michigan into some prolific offensive team.

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Speaker 1: If you're being honest, I don't think he could argue

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Speaker 1: with that. Now, here's the whole point. If Josh Gaddis

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Speaker 1: is legit, and if I'm not big on judging teams

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Speaker 1: future based always on their past, Michigan has not been

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Speaker 1: prolific offensively. That doesn't mean they can't be. They just

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Speaker 1: haven't been okay, But you're not always chained to what

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Speaker 1: your former identity has been. They've never made a higher.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harble's never made a higher like you did with

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Speaker 1: Josh Gaddis. If Gaddis is legit, if he's worth the hype,

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Speaker 1: then absolutely JJ McCarthy is worth the hype. But ultimately,

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Speaker 1: what you have to do if I am a high

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Speaker 1: four star wide receiver living in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, is

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Speaker 1: you've got to make that block m attractive to me.

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Speaker 1: And the only way to make it attractive is results.

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Speaker 1: Put points up, light up the scoreboard, and make it feasible.

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Speaker 1: Make it reasonable. I mean, give me an argument, a

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Speaker 1: legitimate reason to go up there and play in twenty

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Speaker 1: five degree weather. If you couldn't recruit kids north of

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Speaker 1: the Mason Dixon line, Ohio State would never be able

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Speaker 1: to do it. It's possible, but at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, if you're not recruiting elle perimeter skill from

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Speaker 1: the South, you're dead in the water. If you're up

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Speaker 1: where Michigan is, you're dead in the water. People scoff

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Speaker 1: at this. I don't care facts or facts, guys. You

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Speaker 1: got to recruit perimeter talent from the South. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean every now and then an elite wide receiver won't

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Speaker 1: come your way out of Minneapolis or maybe Detroit or Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Yet can't happen Cincinnati puts out some good kids. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about where the entire reservoir of talent is. I'm

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Speaker 1: not looking at a puddle here and there. Go to

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Speaker 1: the reservoir. Guys, I don't know if you realize this.

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Speaker 1: The University of Alabama is in a state that borders

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Speaker 1: the Gulf of Mexico. Even they go further south than

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Speaker 1: where they are. Jerry Judy, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, all

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Speaker 1: these dudes who've been getting pumped into the league. What

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Speaker 1: city do you think they're from. They're all from the

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Speaker 1: same area. It's like they grew up in the same

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Speaker 1: backyard then in Miami. Alabama's got no problem saying we

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Speaker 1: had to go down there. Ohio State's got no problem

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Speaker 1: saying we got to go down there, and Ohio State

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Speaker 1: gets those kids. By the way, it gets cold in Columbus,

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Speaker 1: Ohio too, So don't use the cold weather as an excuse.

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Speaker 1: Don't use the academics as an excuse, because the bottom

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Speaker 1: line is, wide receivers aren't stupid. Every wide receiver that

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Speaker 1: is worth his weight and go is not stupid. You

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Speaker 1: can get kids in class. You get defensive linemen in school.

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Speaker 1: Why can't you get wide receivers in school. You got

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Speaker 1: to be attractive. You haven't been attractive enough for him

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Speaker 1: to come up there, and everything else is kind of

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Speaker 1: just excuse making. So follow the chain here. If Josh

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Speaker 1: Gaddis is worth the hype, that means JJ McCarthy will

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Speaker 1: be given every opportunity to prove his metal. I ultimately

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Speaker 1: think if he stays healthy, he will be worth the hype.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, early December, mid December,

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Speaker 1: we're getting towards that early signing date, and there's Michigan

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Speaker 1: right in the running for a receiver out of East

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Speaker 1: Texas and a receiver out of South central Florida. And

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Speaker 1: then you say, WHOA, Well, these players didn't used to

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Speaker 1: give Michigan the time of day. You gotta not down

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Speaker 1: the barrier though. You got to break the dam. You

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Speaker 1: got to land a kid from down there. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about a big one. Now. You gotta land a kid

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Speaker 1: like Jerry Judy or a kid like Amari Cooper. Once

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Speaker 1: one of them goes, then several of them will go.

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Speaker 1: But you got to give South Florida kids. You got

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Speaker 1: to give East Texas kids, Alabama kids, Nico Collins notwithstanding,

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Speaker 1: of course, Georgia kids. You got to break down that barrier.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have a stream of southern perimeter talent moving

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Speaker 1: north or else. It doesn't matter what kind of quarterback

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Speaker 1: you have. I mean, he's only good as the guys

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Speaker 1: he can throw it to to a tongue of ailoa.

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Speaker 1: How good is he last year? If none of his

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Speaker 1: receivers run a sub four to seven, probably still good.

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Speaker 1: Not nearly as good as he was. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the question. I hope he's worth it. I

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Speaker 1: hope he's worth the hype, But he alone is not

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Speaker 1: going to decide whether he's worth the hype. Earlier today,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of you kind of simultaneously a Bush the

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Speaker 1: late kick inbox, and you said, have you seen this?

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Speaker 1: I said, context this? What is the this we're talking about?

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Speaker 1: So apparently Joe Buck, who is the lead NFL play

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Speaker 1: by play guy on Fox on Sundays, he did an

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Speaker 1: interview on Andy Cohen Show on Serious XM, and he said,

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Speaker 1: these are quotes I'm reading. It's pretty much a done

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Speaker 1: deal that the network might pump in crowd noise and

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Speaker 1: project virtual fans in empty stadiums during the broadcast if

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Speaker 1: we get to that point this year. Here's his quote,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty much a done deal. I think whoever is

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Speaker 1: going to be at that control is going to have

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Speaker 1: to really be good at their job and be realistic

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Speaker 1: with how a crowd would react depending on what just

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Speaker 1: happened on the field. So it's really important. And then

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Speaker 1: on top of all that, they're looking at ways to

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Speaker 1: put virtual fans in the stands. This is still Joseph

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Speaker 1: Fuck's quote, not me. I'll talk in a second. So

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Speaker 1: when you see a wide shot, it looks like the

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Speaker 1: stadium is jam packed, when in fact it will be empty.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm out to lunch on this stuff. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: am so far in the minority that I have to

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Speaker 1: check myself. You guys do a very good job of that.

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Speaker 1: At ninety five percent of the time. I know what

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Speaker 1: my audience is thinking. I talk to a lot of

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Speaker 1: you guys, so you're a pretty good barometer. The few

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Speaker 1: that I talk to routinely and the many of you

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Speaker 1: that I talk to occasionally pretty good barometers. So I

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Speaker 1: normally know where you guys are going. Stuff like this,

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Speaker 1: I have no clue stuff like this. Every one of

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Speaker 1: you may be pumping your fists in the air in

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Speaker 1: favor give us the fake crowd noise, give us the

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Speaker 1: virtual fans in the stands. I would not like seeing

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Speaker 1: that at all. So am I in the minority? Or

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Speaker 1: I mean, am I right there with you? You're definitely

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Speaker 1: gonna have to tell me in the comment section about

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Speaker 1: this one. To me, I don't really feel like watching

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Speaker 1: a broadcast that treats me like a baby in a crib.

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Speaker 1: And just because you have all the toys doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: mean you need to hang them all over my head here.

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Speaker 1: I want you to think about something. We have options.

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Speaker 1: We have the ability to give the viewer options. In

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, a lot of you on Sunday nights have

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Speaker 1: been watching the Last Dance documentary series with the Bulls.

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Speaker 1: ESPN's given you options. Those of you who want the

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Speaker 1: uncut version, you've watched it on a ESPN. Those of

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Speaker 1: you who want the edited version, your nine year old

643
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: can sit there and watch it. You've watched it on

644
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: ESPN too. It didn't have to be an either or

645
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: you are a massive network. You are ESPN, just like

646
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: if you're Fox, you're a massive network. If you want

647
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: to try the experiment with the fake fans and the

648
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: fake crowd noise, perhaps we can give someone that option.

649
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: But let me tell you what fans crave this. I

650
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: do know about you guys to a one hundred percent

651
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: certainty degree. You guys love access as it stands now

652
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: when there are eighty thousand people in a stadium, when

653
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: I walk those fields before the game, or when you

654
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: watch the field during the game and you see those

655
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: those big glass globes that folks on the sideline are

656
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: holding up. That's a field mic. That's to capture sound

657
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: from the field. When you look at those pylons on

658
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: the goal line and look at how fancy they look

659
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: with all those cameras in them, they've also got mics

660
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: in them. There are wires run under the ground with

661
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: just field mics. They're microphones all over the field. When

662
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: you can you love for a player to wear a microphone.

663
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: Why do they do all that? It's so you can

664
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Speaker 1: hear what's going on on the field over the loudness

665
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: in the stadium. Well, now they're removing the loudness, And

666
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: you're telling me we can't bite the bullet for one

667
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: year and just give fans an alternate experience here. You'll

668
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: never trust me, You'll never have more access. You'll never

669
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: have a more raw, peeled back look at the game

670
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: of football than you would if you were to watch

671
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Speaker 1: not a spring game, not a scrimmage, but the New

672
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: York Giants versus the Dallas Cowboys, or Georgia versus Florida

673
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: with no fans in the stands. Not that I think

674
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Speaker 1: the latter is going to happen, nor the former, to

675
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, but if it were to happen,

676
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: worse comes to worst, give it to me. Don't give

677
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: me crowd noise. Get you can have your virtual fans

678
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: in the stands. I don't care about that, but don't

679
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: give me the crowd noise. I want to hear everything.

680
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'd love to hear and understanding all the while.

681
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: This is not permanent. You know that there's a finish

682
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: line in sight for this. It's not like we're forever

683
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: altern are changing how the game works. It's just a

684
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: one year deal, and it's gonna be one of those

685
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: deals in twenty forty five when you tell your grandkids

686
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: about the football you grew up watching. Hey, they used

687
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: to tackle in this game, it's probably what you'll say.

688
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: And then you'll also say there was this one year

689
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: though where this virus. Things got sideways really quickly, guys,

690
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, everyone canceled everything, and everyone

691
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: started wearing masks, and we didn't have fans in the stands,

692
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: and you could hear players breathing. It was wild. Let

693
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: me pop in whatever version of technology you used to

694
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: watch decades old footage at the time and watch what

695
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: this was like. I don't mind that you know it's

696
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: not permanent. I'll take the I'll take the access over

697
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: the bells and whistles that you have available in those

698
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: production trucks. Had a couple of questions that I wanted

699
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Speaker 1: to knock out here. There were two of them that

700
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Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to tie in. I almost made

701
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Speaker 1: this an entire segment tonight. So Mac and Darien both

702
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: in the Twitter inbox. They asked two different questions. And

703
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: some of you have, you know, kind of going five

704
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: different ways with this. So let me pause, gather my thoughts.

705
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: A lot of you have been hurting my feelings. You've

706
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: been calling me a Tennessee homer. Now, these are the

707
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: first times I've ever fielded these accusations. Some of you

708
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: have complained because Tennessee has been like at the forefront

709
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: of the last five shows we've done. But I ask you,

710
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Speaker 1: just as I asked you in the comment sections when

711
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: you were throwing all those hateful names at me, I said,

712
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Speaker 1: Let's say you run a show and you are given

713
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: the current state of affairs in college football, and your

714
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: goal really is to make it interesting for the biggest

715
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: portion of your audience as possible. What would you be

716
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: leading with You got a school in Knoxville that hasn't

717
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: been relevant nationally in a decade decade and a half now,

718
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: and they are rolling on the recruiting trail. You wouldn't

719
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: talk about that. Of course, the Crickets responded in lieu

720
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Speaker 1: of the actual hate posters. But I didn't put a

721
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: ton of Tennessee in the show tonight. However, you did

722
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: because two of your questions were your program juxtapost to

723
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: Tennessee Mac on Twitter. Recently, you've discussed how Tennessee should

724
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: be on the rise again, maybe becoming a national contender

725
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: under Jeremy Pruett. Now, I'm a big North Carolina fan.

726
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: What do you think the ceiling is for Carolina football?

727
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: We don't have the history of Tennessee, but based off

728
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: national brand academics Chapel Hill. Do you think North Carolina

729
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: has what it takes to be a national title contender

730
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: even after mac Brown leaves? Bookmark that. Darien on Twitter also,

731
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Speaker 1: how can South Carolina turn the program around and sort

732
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: of mimic what Tennessee is doing? Do you believe mus

733
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Speaker 1: Champ is the person to do it? So two different

734
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Speaker 1: challenges here. Obviously we're talking about an ACC team and

735
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Speaker 1: we're talking about an SEC team. I think with the

736
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Speaker 1: North Carolina question, which was can they be sort of

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Speaker 1: a long term, sustained national championship contender? Can they be

738
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Speaker 1: relevant in the national conversation even after mac Brown leaves? Well,

739
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: that's all contingent on what their long term investment into

740
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: football is. It's really tough to be all in invested

741
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: in two sports. Impop schools have done it, But you're

742
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: talking about not a two or three year stretch where

743
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: you just get a magical ride together and everyone's all

744
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: in on football for a little while. Now, you've got

745
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: to be all in in the eight and four years too.

746
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Speaker 1: If they are that, then certainly right now the state

747
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: of the ACC is such that behind Clemson, it's wide

748
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: open for someone to ascend to that number. Two spot.

749
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Speaker 1: And if you're the number two spot in a conference,

750
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: anything can happen in any given year, So certainly they

751
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: could be that. But number two. I think that they're

752
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: set at quarterback right now with Sam Howell and then

753
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: Drake May committed. Like I think they're in a really

754
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: good spot at quarterback. And if you've got quarterback figured out,

755
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: as we've said on this show a million times, it

756
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: makes a lot of other dominoes kind of fall into

757
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: place easier, easier. It's not a guarantee, but easier. But

758
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: here's what I need to know. North Carolina's hot recruiting

759
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: right now, but there are a lot of unusual suspects

760
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: that are hot recruiting. And you get the sense told

761
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: you I talked to Nick Saban about this today. You'll

762
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: hear it in due time. A lot of programs like

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Alabama are ranked in the forties in recruiting, and we've

764
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: got like Minnesota in the top ten. This is no

765
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: disrespect in Minnesota. Bama's coming like programs like that aren't

766
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Speaker 1: sitting in the forties. North Carolina's in the top five.

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: They've been there for a long time. I think that

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00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: this class for North Carolina has stay in power because

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Speaker 1: all the kids are from North Carolina. They haven't gone

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Speaker 1: to Colorado and going to North Dakota and all these

771
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: places they've gotten in state kids. Is that sustainable? Am

772
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: I going to see North Carolina sustain a top ten

773
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: year in year out recruiting effort? That's hard to see,

774
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: not impossible. I think one of the most underrated geographical

775
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: recruiting hot beds in America is that Carolina area. North

776
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Carolina always been a great place to go get players.

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00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: If you can just keep those kids in state, or

778
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: the vast majority of them, you could put on the

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Speaker 1: field an annual contender. Notice how many ifs I just

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00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: included there in that brief synopsis. Now with Carolina, As

781
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: Darien asked, is must Champ the guy I lean know

782
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: right now? I've been called When I was doing this

783
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: show in Columbus, they called me cocky Junior. It's called

784
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: it every turn I found a way to defend Will Muschamp,

785
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: and if you're not careful, I'll still do it. Will

786
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: must Champ is a guy who I thought was unfairly

787
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: labeled as a forever failure because he didn't get the

788
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: job done at Florida. If we're thinking along those lines.

789
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Speaker 1: It's impossible for Ed Ordron to just have done what

790
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: he did at LSU because he was a quote unquote

791
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: failure in his only other stop as a head coach

792
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: at ol Miss. So you're not always confined to what

793
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: your previous results have defined you as I mean, there

794
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: are a lot of folks who are millionaires now who

795
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: have been bankrupt at various points in their life, So

796
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: failure now can be success down the road. However, we

797
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: have not seen big time success at South Carolina. I wondered,

798
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: is he going to take the lessons he learned from

799
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: failures at Florida and used them as a springboard at

800
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: South Carolina? Very mixed results so far. Now, what they

801
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: have done is they've energized the fan base. They've got

802
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: a ton of support, They've built really good facilities. I

803
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: think they're swinging well above their skis when it comes

804
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: to facility and donation and whatnot in South Carolina. And

805
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: that's good and that's a good reflection on the head coach. Offensively,

806
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: they've been terrible, I mean, by comparison of their biggest rivals,

807
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: they've been terrible. And so you bring in Mike bobo,

808
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: and we've beaten this to death. We can't know anything

809
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: more until they strap it up and play. But I've

810
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: just never felt like they are a special enough preparation

811
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: to differentiate themselves from the big boys. And here's the problem.

812
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: If we are to assume, for a second, as you

813
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: did in this question, that Tennessee is sort of on

814
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Speaker 1: the rise, then if you project, if everything just continues

815
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Speaker 1: on its current respective trajectories, you're gonna be an underdog

816
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: every year to Georgia. You're gonna be an underdog every year,

817
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: to Florida. You're gonna be an underdog every year to Tennessee.

818
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: That's separate from whoever else you play. You may be

819
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: able to upset one of them any given Saturday. You

820
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: can go into Athens be plus four turnovers and come

821
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: out with a narrow win. What are we talking about here,

822
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: We're talking about pulling one big upset a year. Were

823
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: talking about contending. If you're talking about contending, you're not

824
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: going to consistently upset teams. You're going to not consistently

825
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: upset a critical mass of them, maybe one of them,

826
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Speaker 1: not a critical mass. You gotta do something different. To

827
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Speaker 1: this point, the reason why. The answer is maybe for

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Speaker 1: North Carolina and probably not for South Carolina. It's called

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, don't kid yourself, is in a much more

830
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: favorable position conference wise. And also because regardless of that,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that South Carolina has made the necessary

832
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: changes to its identity, to its football identity to fit

833
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: the classification of a program that you're about to stamp

834
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Speaker 1: with the keep an eye on them sort of stamp.

835
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Speaker 1: I don't think they make those. I wanted to wrap

836
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Speaker 1: up with this question. Well, I didn't see this one coming,

837
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Speaker 1: but I sure am glad that I did happen to

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Speaker 1: open the email inbox question from Malachi in the email inbox,

839
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Speaker 1: have you ever had something happen to you like what

840
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: happened when Mary Smith helped that reporter out by encouraging him.

841
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: Some of you probably know what he's talking about. If

842
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: you don't, in just a second, I'm going to have

843
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Colin play the video, but I want to tee it

844
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: up for you. The guy that Malachi is talking about

845
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: here is a guy that I know very well from Columbus, Georgia.

846
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: He works at WRBL TV in Columbus, Georgia. His name's

847
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Jack Patterson. He has covered high school football there for

848
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: a long time. He has busted his tail behind the

849
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: scenes for a long time. Only recently did he get

850
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: and I'm going to use the word handed very loosely

851
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: because he wasn't handed anything, but in lieu of a

852
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: better turn of phrase, he was recently handed a spot

853
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: as an on air sports reporter. Biggest thrill of his life.

854
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Guy was over the moon and everyone, pretty much everyone

855
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: in Columbus was excited for him. So here's what Malachi

856
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: is talking about. And then on the other side of

857
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Speaker 1: this video, I'm going to give you sort of on

858
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Speaker 1: the ground in Columbus backstory to this role.

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00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: At colin It was built as a game of the

860
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: century war once again between number two l s U

861
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: and number three Alabama, but it was the Tigers jumping

862
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: out to a shocking twenty point first half lead before

863
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: the tie came roaring back in the second half and

864
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: setting up a shootout for the Ages that culminated.

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Speaker 1: Dang it, don't let up. I tell you, don't let

866
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: nobody tell you it ain't man's real. Do you want

867
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: to know the hardest part of the hardest part of

868
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Speaker 1: our job is what you're doing right now. The tape

869
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: stand up. I hate them. I hate them, man, because

870
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: it ain't like if you're live and you kind of

871
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: mess up whatever. You just keep on digging this thing

872
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: you want to be just perfect. I can't stand them.

873
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: Kill them.

874
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: Do you mind if I get a picture ard because

875
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: I am a huge man.

876
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, I appreciate it. Thank you for everything

877
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: you do. I appreciate you, man. Thank you for the

878
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: device plowing. You're doing a good job. Thank you, sir.

879
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: All that stuff's genuine, every bit of its genuine. Here's

880
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: the backstory. So I worked at rival station there for

881
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: a long time. In Columbus. He's at WRBL. I was

882
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: at WLTZ. I'd see him every Friday night at high

883
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: school football games. He was doing it long before I

884
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: started doing high school football. Dude just busted his tail

885
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: behind the scene. He's part of the glue, part of

886
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: the fabric of any successful organization. You got to have

887
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Jack Patterson's in order to make anything operate at an

888
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: above the sea level sort of way where you actually

889
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: get to see a successful product. There are folks like

890
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: him behind the scenes. So I'd be at Callaway Stadium

891
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: in Troop County. I'd be at Connets Stadium there in Columbus.

892
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: These names mean nothing to you if you don't know

893
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: Columbus football, but i'd see him there. And so finally

894
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: my news director who was at WLTZ, goes to WRBL.

895
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: They have an opening, they elevate him to an on

896
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: air spot. Everyone was extatic for him. There's not a

897
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: person who speaks ill of him, and so aside from

898
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: his pro wrestling takes, I don't think he's ever done

899
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: anything wrong. So I would see him on the sideline.

900
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden he gets to start going

901
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: to these big college games, and that was the Alabama

902
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: LSU game this past year that he was there covering,

903
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: and he's on the field doing his post game stand up.

904
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: That's what all the news guys have to do. And

905
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 1: it's hard. Like Marty Smith said there, it's not live.

906
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: When you're live, you just keep going. But when you're recorded.

907
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: It's why I always love to do our shows live.

908
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: When you're recorded, you feel like you got to touch

909
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: up everything. I don't prefer that, and it's not as

910
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: authentic and genuine as it is when we're live, like

911
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: we are right now. So I was in Brandonny stadium

912
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: when that was happening, and I saw the interaction, but

913
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: I was a long way away. I was like on

914
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: the other side of the field. I didn't know what

915
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: was happening. So he posts that on Twitter. He had

916
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: his camera rolling, as you saw, and he just posted

917
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: on there, just authentic. It's just one of those lightning

918
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: in a bottle in the right place, right time moments,

919
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: and it goes, as the kids like to say, viral.

920
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: Boy does it several million views. Twitter account exploded overnight,

921
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: and so back home in Columbus, people who knew his

922
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: backstory were just thrilled out of their mind for him.

923
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: And everybody who has their heart and mind in the

924
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: right place would have told you, I'm more glad that

925
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: happened for him than I would have been if it

926
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: happened for me. Then you got the people who are

927
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: a little bit differently wired that probably shook his hand

928
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: and slapped his back, but then behind his back probably

929
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: were very envious. But you know folks that matter, folks

930
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: that actually had their heart in the right place. Everyone

931
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: there was thrilled for him. But there are people all

932
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: over the place like that. So to answer your question, Malachi,

933
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: I've had people help me. Yeah, but when I see

934
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: that happen, knowing how hard it is to elevate in

935
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: this business, because it is very cutthroat. By the very definition,

936
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: it is very cutthroat. And to have seen him all

937
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: those Friday nights in twenty fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, slogging

938
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: equipment all over the place. It is one hundred and

939
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: fourteen degrees down in Georgia when you start high school

940
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: football in August, and to finally have it pay off

941
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: for him, and then to have that happen, see a

942
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: lot of folks probably would have said, man, that guy's

943
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: on TV and they just out of know where this happens.

944
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: All happened so fast. It didn't happen fast at all.

945
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't a right place, right time. He was in

946
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: the right place for years and busted his tail and

947
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: probably went through what a lot of folks would have

948
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: been made to quit by going through. That's the filtration

949
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: process of having to actually go through anything hard in

950
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: order to elevate. You're Michael Jordan talk about that stuff

951
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: all the time on the Bulls documentary. That's the same

952
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: way to succeed in any avenue. So he stuck with

953
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: it and it got rewarded. And it always makes me

954
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: smile when someone sticks with stuff and they finally get rewarded.

955
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: And he was in that building for years and was

956
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: never put on air, but was always ready to be

957
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: put on air. And just like for instance, sitting in

958
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: a radio studio I don't know, like maybe me a

959
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: few years ago, just observing someone gets sick one day

960
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, slide the microphone over. You want

961
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: to do this. That's how I got I start. And

962
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: so put yourself in the right place the right time

963
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: will eventually find you, and then stuff like that may happen,

964
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, people on a worldwide

965
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: scale get to see what just a small handful of

966
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: us saw with that guy. That guy is Jack Patterson,

967
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: four years down in Columbus. So I wanted to end

968
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: the show with that because that was I'm telling you,

969
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: I probably tweeted that out fifteen times when it happened

970
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: last November. I was so excited about that and still

971
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: am to this day. Because that kid's finish line is

972
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: not Columbus, Georgia, all due respect to Columbus. I'm from

973
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: there or just north of there in Harris County, and

974
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: some of my friends in Harris County have reminded me.

975
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: But Jack's going places, so really happy for him, and

976
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate the question. We will be back here this

977
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: same time Sunday night. It is eight Eastern. It is

978
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: seventh Central. If you haven't already and you got questions

979
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: that you want answered for the next Late Kick Extra

980
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: podcast that rolls your way next Wednesday, look below the

981
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: video here on YouTube. There is a comment. It is penned.

982
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: Reply to that comment with any questions, I just aggregate him.

983
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: I pile them up in one document all week, and

984
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: then I answer him. Until next time. You guys, have

985
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: a great weekend, take care of yourself, stay safe, and

986
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: we'll see you back here at the same time Sunday night.