1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calbisi joins me. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: It is week two of training camp, the first full week. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Among the topics on this Monday, where the team hopes 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy plays and where exactly is Isaiah Simmons going 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: to be on the field this season. It's Cardinals Cover two, 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Episode five seventy four, and it starts now. Welcome to 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Hitting the backfield and down he goes 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: for a loss. JJ Watt nailed it. Cardinals Cover two 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals dot Com 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half of five. Hes 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: in again, so for Harry Magic. Whoa, here's Craig Grielou 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: so good news, bad news Here on the first day 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: of August the good news I believe Monday the first 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: time the Cardinals radio trumprant of Dave Pash, Ron Wolflee 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and Paul Calves on the sidelines together. That was my 17 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway here on the fifth day of practices. It's 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: not just radio, it's multimedia these days great and there 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: we were yours truly in the Great Day of Pass 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: shooting a video segment and then Wolf Wolf felt the 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: need because he was on the outside looking into photo bombs, 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: said video segments. So when cap Credentials powered by Cox 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: comes around, look for Wolf's photo bomb. And yes, the 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: camera does put on an extra fifteen pounds. I'm sorry 25 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Wolf appearing soon on Acy Cardinals dot com. But it's 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: good to have everyone back. Now. The bad news here, Paul, 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's not great news, but it could be 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: worse news. Let's put it that way. We can get 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: worse exactly, and it'd be worse if we if we're 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: talking about this week one or any point during the 31 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: regular season. Kyler Murray, according to head coach Cliff Kingsbury, 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: test positive for COVID and he will miss at minimum 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: the next five days. Well, if you need to rest 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: your throwing arm, I guess that's one way to did 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: not practice on Saturday. Yes, so, yes, the drama continues. 36 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're just added to the list, it's 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: just um, Like I said, the HBO Hard Knocks, are 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: they absolutely sure they wouldn't have been better served to 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: document the first half of the season versus the second half, 40 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: just a lot of stuff flying around. Maybe this boes 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: well then for all of us that as much activity, 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: and I'll put that in air quotes that there has 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: been this offseason, the early part of training camp, that 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: maybe we're in store for a boring regular season with 45 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: respects to the drama if you will. Now, the on 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: field that's gonna be exciting. They're gonna win games, but 47 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: the drama, if you will, that HBO hard knocks prefers 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: kind of you know, to to move the meter and 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: get the ratings points. Maybe maybe they're disappointed, but we're happy. Well, look, 50 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: there's no doubt HBO has been archiving the video. There's 51 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: no doubt all these storylines we'll come up again. If 52 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: it bleeds the leads, they'll figure out a way how 53 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: to start the series by going back to July and August. 54 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: Garone ted. It'll still be brought up. But you know what, 55 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: by the time we get to the end of August, 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: maybe maybe just maybe these unanticipated rest periods for a 57 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, for a Hollywood Brown, for a DJ Humphreys, 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: maybe it just pays off because these guys are gonna 59 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: get a lot of reps over a seventeen game regular season. 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: J J. Watt basically played zero of the preseason and 61 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: camp a year ago, so maybe, in a weird way, 62 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: might actually pay off when the game's really count. I 63 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: believe Watt has had one VET day and told everyone 64 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: not to panic. He's going to get some of those 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: during training camp. Rodney Hudson has gotten a few VET 66 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: days into your point, Yeah, it's okay to rest now 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: if you've earned that rest. Because the names that we're 68 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: talking about have been within this offense, have been within 69 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: this league. I'd much rather than be healthy and as 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: close to one hundred percent in October, November, December, January 71 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: as opposed to right now. I still remember Cardinals go 72 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: to Tennessee last year. Obviously they jack stomp the Titans. 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: Postgame radio interview in Cliff Kingsburier was sure to point 74 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: out that there was way too much made about August 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: of last year, that everyone's consternation and concerns and people 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: griping and grousing about this and that, And it was 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: just a quick comment, but he made it sure to 78 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: be known that a lot of us still read a 79 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: lot way too much into the preseason. What goes on 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: in August to the coaches, and you know what's taken 81 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: me a long time to come around to this, basically 82 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: twenty five years. Great that they really it's got to 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: be a burning house fire of sorts for them to 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: get concerned as long as their team comes out of 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: August and training camp in the preseason schedule as healthy 86 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: as possible. Most of these coaches are a double thumbs 87 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: up on what happens in August. That is priority one, two, three, four. However, 88 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: many whatever your list is, health is attached to every 89 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: single one of theirs. Whatether's the whole team or individuals. 90 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: This is in the sixties and seventies when they had 91 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: a six game preseason because everyone had to play themselves 92 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: into shape. Obviously, guys stay in shape tiptop premium shape 93 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: year round. Most of these guys are ready to go 94 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, the guys who already know 95 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: the offense. Honestly, a lot of this is designed for 96 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: those last five to ten spots on a roster in 97 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: the practice squad. How are you going to fill out 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the rest of that roster and so and there are 99 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: some good position battles, whether it's a back end of 100 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line, room, whether it's the running back room, 101 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: who's going to be the second option to James Connor, 102 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: whether it's going to make the final fifty three. There 103 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: the back end of the receiver room where all these quick, 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: diminutive receivers. Who's going to be the two guys that 105 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: emerge and make the final roster. But when it comes 106 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: to some of those premier names we just listed, nah, 107 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the coaches aren't concerned whatsoever. You brought up 108 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: position battles. Let's start here on Cardinals cover two presented 109 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, because Kingsbury 110 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: recently asked about position battles and he mentioned specifically the 111 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: cornerback and I was a little surprised about that, and 112 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: it kind of did raise an eyebrow, if you will, 113 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, because they really want Byron Murphy in 114 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: this slot. They believe that he is better in the 115 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: slot and a very good slot corner. All right, So 116 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: if he's your quote unquote number one corner buddies inside, 117 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: who are your two outside cornerbacks? Marco Wilson and who 118 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton Josh Jackson who was flashed. I'd say more 119 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: than flashed so far here in training Campany's a recent addition, 120 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: but now all of a sudden, more eyeballs are going 121 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: to be looking at that spot because of the perceived 122 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: lack of depth, and it's not really perceived. There is 123 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: a lack of depth with respect to experience in the 124 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: national footballer. You know, we started the off season and 125 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: we talked about that on this show and others AC 126 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com that they really prefer Byron Murphy Junior 127 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: inside to be a slot corner. He's a good outside corner. 128 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: He's an exceptional inside slot corner, the guy who has 129 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: the ability to go any of three different ways, as 130 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: Vans Joseph says, following Arong, a slot receiver, and that's 131 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 1: a tough that's a tough assignment. It can get really 132 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: nasty in there. You gotta be physical, you gotta be quick, 133 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: you gotta be athletic, you gotta be heads up, know 134 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: what's going on. And so they would prefer to have 135 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: him inside. And now we got away from that after 136 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the tragic passing to Jeff Gladdeney, because out of need 137 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: and necessity, you figured Byron Murphy Junior would once again 138 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: be that outside corner and he might still be, but 139 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: they do have the preference to put him inside. Now, 140 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: what's interesting about that is if he isn't okay, what 141 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: happens to in Isaiah Simmons. There's sort of a trickle 142 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: down because you've seen Isaiah Simmons be a slot corner 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: quite a bit in this camp and you figure he's 144 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of reps in that regard. But 145 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: I tell you, getting a look Josh Jackson my first 146 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: real extend to look at him today other than mandatory minicamp. 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: He definitely looks the part. He has, the size, he has, 148 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: the athleticism, obviously has a pedigree, is a former second 149 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: round pick. He's made a lot of plays on the 150 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: ball and interceptions in his career going back to his 151 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: days at Iowa. That would be a home run for 152 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: everything that Russul Douglas could have been for the Arizona 153 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals last year but got away to the Green Bay 154 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: Packers and then signed a big deal on the offseason. Maybe, 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: just maybe this is the football gods giving them Josh 156 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Jackson to fill in. Well you think about it, Jackson 157 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: was signed after mandatory minicamp. He was brought in as 158 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: a tryout. They liked enough of what they saw over 159 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: those two days and brought him back permanently twenty six 160 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: years old. But you brought up the size six feet 161 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: one ninety six. Marco Wilson is six feet, Brion Borders 162 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: is six feet, Antonio Hamilton is six feet, by Murphy 163 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: five eleven? Is there not much of a difference? There 164 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: is if you're gonna go and if you're talking about 165 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson against and aj Green, that he'll do every 166 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: single day in practice, because every little inch matters when 167 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: you're going against these taller, a little bit more physical 168 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers. And the fact they have yet to sign 169 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: a veteran corner a week in a camp, I think 170 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: it says one or two things, or maybe both. Number one, 171 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: these veteran corners who are still on the couch are 172 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: still asking for too much money, or be you know 173 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: what with the emergence of Isaiah Simmons as someone who's 174 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: going to play a lot in the slot and or 175 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot is a deep safety, maybe freeing up a 176 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson to drop into the box 177 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: and be the occasional slot corner. Then guess what. Right now, 178 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, I think are intrigued by what they have, 179 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: and there's enough the market that if they for some reason, 180 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: one of these guys gets exposed and or in the 181 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: preseason game, they realize, well, he's not quite where we 182 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: thought he was. There's still availability of guys on the market. Now, 183 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: there might be a run on some of these veteran 184 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: corners on the market, but not yet. And that's because 185 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: of guys like Antonio Hamilton and Josh Jackson, and maybe 186 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: some of the adjustments fans Joseph has made with other 187 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: guys in personnel to run what appears a lot of 188 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: times to be a four two five almost nickel as 189 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: the base defense if he count Isaiah Simmons as that 190 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: hybrid linebacker slash safety. I am surprised, Paul that we 191 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: have not had that veteran corner addition. And I'm not 192 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: counting Josh Jackson, but one of those time time signs 193 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: right at the beginning of training camp or the first week, 194 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: and here we are the first full week of training camp, 195 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: but week number two here at Stay Farm Stadium Training 196 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Camp powered by Cox. I'm surprised in the name that 197 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: we've talked about a lot. Is Robert Alford because he 198 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: knows the defense, is very familiar with this scheme. And 199 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: I would have bet money that he would have been 200 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: brought in by now here on August first, and he 201 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: has not been. So maybe again to your point, does 202 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: that say more about asking price or does it say 203 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: more of Hey, you know what, Josh Jackson is a 204 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: little bit better. He's picked things up quicker than we anticipated. 205 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: He's fit in real well. Antonia Hamilton back for a 206 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: second year. We like what we have right now. There's 207 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: not a quote need to bring it into the guy. 208 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Josh Jackson will come up and 209 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: he'll hit, he'll tackle, And that's what I think of 210 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Robert Alford. He really fits the mentality of this Cardinal secondary. 211 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: In the span of a year or two, they've really 212 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: improved their tackling ability as a secondary overall. Robert Alfred 213 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: was a big part of that. But a Byron Murphy 214 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: will come up and hit you. We've seen that. Marco 215 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: Wilson does not shy away. He's not one of those 216 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: corners who waits for someone else to make the tackle 217 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: and run support. Obviously, Buddha Baker and Jail in Time, 218 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: two of the best tackling safeties in the game period. 219 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: So if Josh Jackson can be that guy, and maybe 220 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: they're waiting for pads as we record this that Cardinals 221 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: are about, you know, our less than a day away. 222 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: Their next practice session will be in full pads, full contact. 223 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: Maybe just maybe they want to see a lot not 224 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: just Josh Jackson, but a lot of the lineman, some 225 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: of the pass rushers. That's happened before, as in not 226 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: where you've had to wait till the first couple of 227 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: full pad, full contact sessions to really truly assess what 228 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: you have in a football player, because everybody now the 229 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: game is played in pads. It's a good point because 230 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: right now it is helmet and basically t shirt and shorts, 231 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: a little spiders. There is some padding, but there's not 232 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot of contact. And when you do get the 233 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: pads on especially day one on Tuesday, and then however 234 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: many more practices with pads, guys get a little bit 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: more excited. The energy, the intensity ramps up because now 236 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, to your point, it is football 237 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: and not sock as Bruce Arians like to call it. 238 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give you an example, they have three 239 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: young rookie offensive lineman. The two draft picks on Day three, 240 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: right markis Hays Lucida Smith. And then if you want 241 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: to mark down a name who I think is making 242 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: some waves of some of the coaches as intriguing is 243 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: Greg Long six foot three, three hundred four pounds of 244 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: rookie out of Perdue. Now they think that these guys 245 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: have a future, they think, but you don't know until, 246 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: especially offensive lineman get in pads obviously. So once that 247 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: gets rolling and you see how some of these guys 248 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: fair against the veteran defensive lineman in space, because a 249 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of that old line D line drill stuff is 250 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: inherently in favor of the defensive lineman. There's just too 251 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: much room to work. If you're an interior offensive linean, 252 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: you don't have a center on one side and a 253 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: tackle on the other side of you. It's just you 254 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: in space. Here we go. And so if an offensive 255 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: lineman can perform well in that setting, that says a 256 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: lot about that person, especially a young guy who's going 257 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: to be in pads for the first time. That's when 258 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: you see the Steve Kimes and the Cliff Kingsbury's really 259 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: inch forward and then they go back and they break 260 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: down that film later to see who held their own. 261 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: And that's the next elevation here of training camps with 262 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: the pads coming on. Speaking of elevation, and it was 263 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: the highlights of Monday's training camp practice Byron Murphy and 264 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: it was captured at Paul Calvacy social media video Byron Murphy. 265 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: And this is something that we have seen throughout this 266 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: entire training camp. But when an offensive player or a 267 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: defensive player makes a play, there is an overexaggeration of 268 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: celebration on one sideline or another. And this was late 269 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: game scenario, believe there with thirty five seconds on the clock, 270 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: offense is driving, they need to score a touchdown and 271 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy high pointed a ball in the end zone 272 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: off the arm of Colt McCoy came down with the 273 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: football and there was an immediate eruption on the d 274 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: offensive side of the field. They had won the ball game, 275 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: or at least that team session. Yeah, and there was 276 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: a lot of trash talking that in soon. In fact, 277 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: the first thing I do before I tweet out the 278 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: video at ball CALVC is make sure the audio is 279 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: suitable for a family setting. Okay, Now the video is 280 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: not going to make you forget in NFL films, but 281 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: it's there. You can see it for yourself. Buddha Baker 282 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: had a pick late in the practice session as well, 283 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: and it was good energy. That way, there's good competition, 284 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: and honestly, it reinforced what we were just talking about 285 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: with Byron Murphy Junior. He really excels in the middle 286 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: of the field, that interior slot corner. He just has 287 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: a great nose for the ball. He has excellent ball skills, 288 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: and so if you can get him in that situation, 289 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: I think just reinforces what the decision makers are already 290 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: thinking about when it comes to Byron Murphy Junior. I'll 291 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: tell you this much as well. I wrote down along 292 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: with those two picks of my notes. You know, Dennis 293 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Gardeck to me definitely looks like the Dennis Gardeck from 294 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, at least based on what we can tell 295 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: going through drills. He looks different than he did a 296 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: year ago. I'll say that much. Untrenfident in himself. Yeah, 297 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: it's just the explosion, just a burst. A number of 298 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: times he was getting past offensive Lineman instantly, sort of 299 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: like he did in twenty twenty before he went down 300 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: with a torn acl in Week fifteen against the Eagles. 301 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, I thought we also had our first bit 302 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: of fisticuffs. It was brief, but there was a little 303 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: bit of a spat going on, you know, a root 304 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: and Ana Tutin. I think it was what Joshua Miles 305 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: and jesse Lemonner, the backup linebacker, those two were going 306 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: at it just for a moment there. Because it's an 307 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: open practice, everyone can see it. But this is all 308 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: evidence of good energy as they track towards that red 309 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: and white practice and then they get in towards Cincinnati 310 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: in Week one of the preseason, and again we talked 311 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: about it. With the pads coming on on Tuesday, that energy, 312 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: that intensity will certainly pick up. There are, as we speak, 313 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: eight more open practices here at State Farm Stadium if 314 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: you want to see the Arizona Cardinals before they officially 315 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: hit the field Week one again the Kansas City Chiefs. 316 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: We continue here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday 317 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. We've talked about it's 318 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: actually you and I, Paul here on the show. Made 319 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: it one of our big talking points in the offseason, 320 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: and one of the big question marks was whereas Isaiah 321 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: Simmons playing. We've referenced it a couple of times, but 322 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: we actually now actually have a name that we can 323 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: attach to Isaiah Simmons. Remember vanch Joseph before he addressed 324 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: the media and training camp. Oh, no, Simmons, He's a linebackers. 325 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: That's where he's gonna play. Isaiah Simmons. I'm a linebacker first, 326 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: that's my focus. Well, as I've documented all offseason, he 327 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: has not spent a single moment even here in training 328 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: camp with the linebackers. Inside linebackers. Now maybe a little 329 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: outside linebacker Russian the passer, but he is a star backer. 330 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: We now have a description for Isaiah Simmons. And according 331 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: to Vans Joseph, a starbacker is quote who plays a 332 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: lot linebacker, dime safety. I won't share much more than that, 333 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: and he let us all hang when he addressed the 334 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: media on Saturday. So starbacker Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, And you 335 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: know what, a few days before, Cliff Kingsbury went into 336 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: detail as least as much as he's wont to do. 337 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: As the head coach when it came to Isaiah Simmons, 338 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: and when he was describing the different roles that Isaiah 339 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: would have in the defense, none of them matched weekside 340 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: inside linebacker, and he said, we've sort of figured out 341 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: what he does best. So apparently, based on what we've 342 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: seen so far, what's been open for everybody to witness. 343 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: A lot of times you're seeing Nick Vigil Zavan Collins 344 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: at those traditional inside linebacker spots and then you're seeing 345 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: the starbacker in this case, Isaiah Simmons, which to your point, 346 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: that means he could be on the edge, means he 347 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: could be mug in the A R B gap, it 348 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: means he could be in the slot, it means he 349 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: could be a safety. So there's no question he is 350 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: going to be an X factor and that I'm guessing 351 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback is going to break the huddle and one 352 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: of the first things he's going to look for is 353 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: where is number nine, and that's going to dictate exactly 354 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: what an offense does. And they always want to set 355 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: the mic and then they set their protections from there. 356 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: So it's interesting to hear as I look some of 357 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: the notes, and you know, vance Joseph mentioned how there 358 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: were times last year he would match up against premier 359 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: wide receivers like Ceedee Lamb. When they went against Dallas, 360 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: there was Isaiah Simmons on Ceedee Lamb. And we've seen 361 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: some of that in practice already. I saw a Rep. 362 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Worries on Rondale Moore. I mean six foot four Isaiah 363 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: Simmons in space against five foot seven speeds to Rondelle Moore. 364 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: That's really interesting, and it also makes me wonder if 365 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: these you know, starting with Cincinnating week one, they don't 366 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: gain plants. So if you go to Kansas City in 367 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: week one of the regular season, are they going to 368 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: test that? I think they go after Isaiah Simmons. We're 369 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: already looking at a game of matchups. Yes, I expect 370 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: him be on Travis Kelsey quite a bit in Week one, 371 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: but I think Kansas City does what it can to 372 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: get him out there in space against a legit burner 373 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: of a receiver, and they might target him early in 374 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: the season to see if he's capable of pulling a 375 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: lot of this off. Simmons has the size six four 376 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: two thirty eight, He has the speed to be able 377 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: to be positioned anywhere on that field, as an edge rusher, 378 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: as a slock corner, as a safety, and I think 379 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: I think he prefers being able to be multiple paul 380 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: and being a little bit more attacking and not reacting. 381 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: And Kingsbury mentioned that Simmons plays better when he's a 382 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: little bit further away from the line of scrimmage, less distraction, 383 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: meaning less arms and body parts in his way. I 384 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: like what I've seen from Simmons so far and training camp. Now, 385 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: well this continue well so far it has as we 386 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: enter a week two of training camp, but we're do 387 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: we see him week one week two? Coach Joseph mentioned 388 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: game plan will dictate, but I think what you're gonna see, 389 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: at least initially, is Simmons playing a lot near the 390 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, covering, whether that's a slot receiver or 391 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: a tight end, because of those early matchups against tight 392 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: ends this season. I mean, think about it. If they 393 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: put him in a traditional week side inside linebacker spot, 394 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: I would imagine that the opponent would get into a 395 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: power run set and goes straight at number nine, not 396 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: unlike what teams used to do against Daryl Washington. Thankfully, 397 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: Darren Urban, it's not here right now. So please nobody. 398 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: When Daryl Washington came into the league, man was the 399 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: athletic man. Could he run? But he also admitted to 400 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: us later after that rookie season, he got down to 401 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: about two hundred nineteen pounds and teams soon discovered that 402 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: he was a liability in a straight ahead run game, 403 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: they would go right at him. Now, over the course 404 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: of his career, he bulked up and he was much 405 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: more stout against the run. But I don't think Isaiah 406 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: Simmons really will ever beat that guy. And if they 407 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: have that guy in a Nick Vigil and a Zavan 408 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: con On, then why not use them all over the 409 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: field in some of these other areas. As I'm looking 410 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: at some of the notes and what advance Joseph told 411 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: the media, he just flat out said it. He can 412 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: play a little linebacker, a little safety, a little dime. 413 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: He can be a lot of things a lot of places. 414 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: That depends on the game plan. So there you go. 415 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: Offenses wonder and worry about where Isaiah Simmons is going 416 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: to be. And and yes he has the ability to cover, 417 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: and especially in today's game, when you have all these 418 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: running backs coming out of the backfield like never before, 419 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: when you have these very athletic tight ends that can 420 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: split out in flax, you got to have somebody who 421 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: can check those guys and you have to have the ability. 422 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: I think with the way that Cardinals defense is constructed 423 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: now where they're a little short on corners and they 424 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: might use a Buddha Baker and a Jalen Thompson more 425 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: in coverage in the slot, well, then guess what. Isaiah 426 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Simmons has to be that guy. The point is, if 427 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: you can just keep him on the field, he can 428 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: be one of your best eleven because of his versatility 429 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: and because of the cardinals their needs elsewhere, he can 430 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: be what you need him to be against certain teams, 431 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: certain matchups, and certain schemes. Advanced Joseph bol dialogue and 432 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: it makes it easier for coach Joseph in terms of 433 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: when that offense changes. Well, now you don't have to substitute. 434 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: You're keeping Simmons on the field. You're keeping your best 435 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: eleven on the field to where you can just sit there. 436 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: There's not that rush running on, running off and the 437 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: offense tries to catch you off guard. Think about it, 438 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: Week one, do you think Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City 439 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: will go up tempo absolutely. I mean, they're gonna try 440 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: and keep those eleven guys on the field. And if 441 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: you have an Isaiah Simmons out there, then he has 442 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: the ability to morph into what exactly Vance Joseph needs 443 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: at that very moment. So yes, it's it's I think 444 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: the bigger question, honestly is Zavian Collins. And to hear 445 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, to hear Advance Joseph say about him that 446 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: he's confident in him right now, that he's been calling 447 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: it clean, that he's in great shape and he's been 448 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: playing well, then that to me is a big your question. 449 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: We're all intrigued and there's curiosity as to whyere isaiahs 450 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: sim isn't going to play, But I think he's proven 451 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: himself as a playmaker. Does he have to eliminate getting 452 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: beat at times? And Vance Joseph said that he has 453 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: to be more consistent, there's no doubt about it. The 454 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: legitimate question mark, though, is on his fellow first round linebacker, 455 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: and that's that's Zavan Collins. And there's no question in 456 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, he'll get a plenty of reps even though 457 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: teams are gonna run vanilla schemes. I get it. But 458 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: if he can't master that in the preseason, then guess 459 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: what there might be reason for a concern at that point. 460 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: One of the bigger, more important quotes statements, if you will, 461 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: all training camp, and this is from Vance Joseph on 462 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: Collins quote, he's making very few mistakes end quote. And 463 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: you could not have said that this time or anytime 464 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: last year. And it became to the point the mistakes 465 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: were costing Collins playing time. He needs to stay on 466 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: the football field this season. I'll give you an example. 467 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: The NFL network replay Cardinals Packers and it was that 468 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Thursday night game obviously National Prime Now, and that was 469 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: a game where Zaban Collins got hurt. And when I 470 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: was going through that game for another reason and he 471 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: went down, I replayed that snap. What happened was it 472 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: was an errand it was actually it was an aj 473 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Dillon big chunk run fifteen to twenty yards and it 474 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: went to Zaban Collins side and he hesitated, He was 475 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: chopping his feet and he didn't exactly know whether to 476 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: go left, right, back forward. He did and then boom, 477 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: he got hit from this side and went down hard 478 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: on that shoulder. That shoulder the game and problems the 479 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: rest of the season. But it was the hesitation, it 480 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: was indecisiveness once the ball was snapped that a led 481 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: to the big chunk run and b led to his 482 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: eventual injury on that same place. So that's the sort 483 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: of progress that he has to make that you hope 484 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: Van's Joseph. That's what he means by he's making very 485 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: few mistakes that he's able to read and react instantly, 486 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: And that might be the most important part of this 487 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: early training camp is those two inside linebackers. I say 488 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: that name only as far as Collins and Simmons because 489 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: those are your two most recent first round draft picks. 490 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: There's no first round draft pick from this season unless 491 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: you want to count Hollywood Brown, But your two most 492 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: recent first round draft picks are those linebackers that you 493 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: hope you can build around for the next decade or so. 494 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: It was interesting to hear Vance Joseph bring up Nick 495 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: Vigil on his own and say the only reason he 496 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: hasn't stuck around in the league with one team for 497 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: a really long time is because those teams have happened 498 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: to pick first round linebackers themselves. So it's a little 499 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: bit irony in there in his situation now, but he's 500 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: getting plenty of reps what we have seen, and he 501 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: got a lot of praise from his defensive coordinator, and 502 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph said, you know what, he can really run. 503 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: He's picked up the scheme fast, he's long, he's smart, 504 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: he can cover, he can play all three downs. So 505 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, once again, unprompted, Vance Joseph had a lot 506 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: of positive things to say about Nick Vigil. He's another guy, 507 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: just that whole inside linebacker equation. How's that gonna play 508 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: out here in August and what's gonna look like in 509 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: full pads in preseason games. That's definitely still one of 510 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: the top storylines out here at Cards camp. It is 511 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: a pleasure, Paul, to have you here at Cardinals training 512 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: Camp powered by Cox. Look forward to seeing you again 513 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: as the week progresses. We'll see if you say that 514 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: as we get into the dog days of camp, you 515 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: know that's not as we say, it's early. It's right, 516 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: it's definitely it's definitely early out there. So no, it's 517 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good to get the pads on, There's 518 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And just forget seeing it. You 519 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: just want to hear it. You want to hear football 520 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: again in the collisions and the popping of pads. That's 521 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: that's to me is when you realize, okay, things are 522 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: getting close. It's imminent. Morning practices the rest of the week, 523 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: the Red and White practice on Saturday afternoon. All information, 524 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: all details on asy cardinals dot com. And on that note, 525 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 526 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 527 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Joe mom 528 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: Andro for Paul Kalbisi, I'm greig Riel Loup. We'll talk 529 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Covered two.