Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming
Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambau Field West.
Speaker 1: Our final show of the week, and that means keys
Speaker 1: to victory. It will be Packers Cardinals noon Central time,
Speaker 1: kickoff on Sunday at lambeau Field. The Packers at four
Speaker 1: six and one, trying to get win number five in
Speaker 1: this season. What's it gonna take? You know, Mike, It's funny.
Speaker 1: We are now in week thirteen. As you have alluded
Speaker 1: to in the past, we've gotten to this point. The
Speaker 1: records are what they are. Out of any game I
Speaker 1: think the Packers have played this season, maybe with the
Speaker 1: exception of the Buffalo Bills, it's a pretty clear and
Speaker 1: defined path to victory and what they need to do.
Speaker 1: When you look at the lines in this game coming
Speaker 1: out of Vegas, you look at you know what the
Speaker 1: outside perception is, regardless of all what the narrative is.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why the Packers are favored in this
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals are in a tight spot right now
Speaker 1: under Steve Wilkes, and in speaking with the media this week,
Speaker 1: he acknowledged, you know, some of the things that they've
Speaker 1: been working through him as a first year coach. Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen is a rookie quarterback. All that being said, the
Speaker 1: Packers have to take care of business in this game.
Speaker 1: You asked me what the key to victory is. Everything
Speaker 1: is the key to victory. Aaron Rodgers needs to play well.
Speaker 1: The defense needs to take the ball away, Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: needs to get involved. Davante Adams needs another hundred yard performance.
Speaker 1: Whatever it takes to get that victory. The Packers need
Speaker 1: to get it because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: while Mike Petton mentioned it, everybody in the locker room
Speaker 1: talked about it. You're not looking past the Cardinals. You cannot.
Speaker 1: You're not in a position to look past the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: The facts are what they are. The Cardinals are two
Speaker 1: and nine right now, they're on a three game skid.
Speaker 1: They have the worst ranked offense in seventeen of the
Speaker 1: top nineteen categories. That's just the facts. For the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. They need to pick up this win. They
Speaker 1: need to get on a winning streak here to to
Speaker 1: make this you know, potentially interesting here down the stretch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, as you said, this one all points to
Speaker 1: the Packers being so heavily favored because the Cardinals have
Speaker 1: struggled as much as they have. Obviously, the Packers are
Speaker 1: undefeated at lambeau Field this year. I said it earlier
Speaker 1: this week. I said it on our Final Thoughts video
Speaker 1: which is on our website, which we shot just before
Speaker 1: we came and sat down here and turned the cameras on.
Speaker 1: This is one of those games to me, all the
Speaker 1: circumstances and everything surrounding it, that this is a team
Speaker 1: you have to jump on them early, break whatever spirit
Speaker 1: they might have in terms of trying to pull the upset,
Speaker 1: and then you have to protect the football. And I
Speaker 1: think if you do that, the combination of the fact
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are two and nine, they've had a
Speaker 1: really rough go of it year with their rookie head coach.
Speaker 1: They're a team from the southwestern corner of the United
Speaker 1: States that plays in warm weather, that plays in a dome.
Speaker 1: Coming up to lambeau Field where it's gonna the temperatures
Speaker 1: are going to be in the thirties, don't give them
Speaker 1: any idea, any sense that they can win this game
Speaker 1: and where they'll get a sense of winning this game
Speaker 1: is if the Packers don't start fast, and if the
Speaker 1: Packers turn the ball over, that that's that's how you
Speaker 1: give a team like this life in a situation like this,
Speaker 1: And to me, it's as simple as that. That's what
Speaker 1: the Packers have to do well. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: stunning in some ways with the Cardinals because we're there.
Speaker 1: Through eleven games here right now, Mike, they've only scored
Speaker 1: more than three touchdowns, more than twenty one points in
Speaker 1: one occasion, and it was victory over San Francisco, who
Speaker 1: just so happens to be the only team they've beaten
Speaker 1: this year. They did it twice to victories over the Ers.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the main reason you always want to start fast,
Speaker 1: You always want to stop on them early. But they're
Speaker 1: coming off a forty I have to tend loss against
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. The thing I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people aren't talking enough about in that game is
Speaker 1: it was forty five on answered by the Chargers to
Speaker 1: win that game. Right. The Cardinals had the lead earlier,
Speaker 1: they led after the first quarter, tended nothing in the child.
Speaker 1: I believe they missed a field goal somewhere in there too,
Speaker 1: where they could have even pushed their lead a little
Speaker 1: bit higher. So I mean, if you're looking at it
Speaker 1: from the last three quarters perspective, this is a team
Speaker 1: that's really reeling now. As I mentioned in our previous
Speaker 1: show Mike on Wednesday, they still have a lot of playmakers.
Speaker 1: They still have a lot of people that can disrupt
Speaker 1: the game on both sides of the ball. Chandler's Jones,
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, We'll see whether or not, Buddha Baker's and
Speaker 1: the Plans. But on the other side of it, the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers have played with some really good football
Speaker 1: teams in the last over the last month. I understand
Speaker 1: what the record is. I know they didn't win those games,
Speaker 1: but there's a there's levels to this, right the Rams, Patriots,
Speaker 1: and heck even to some extent, the Vikings in the
Speaker 1: in the Seahawks. They're on a different level right now
Speaker 1: than Arizona is. You can't play down to that. You
Speaker 1: have to come out, you have to look strong, you
Speaker 1: have to defend your home turf. Yeah. I did a
Speaker 1: little bit of statistical searching this week with West with
Speaker 1: regards to uh Steve Wilkes being a rookie head coach
Speaker 1: coming in here into lambou Field. I took a look
Speaker 1: at the entire Mike McCarthy era, dating back to two
Speaker 1: thousand six and when the Packers have faced a rookie
Speaker 1: head coach. Now, to define that, what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: is a head coach who's in his first season as
Speaker 1: a head coach in the NFL anywhere, So a coach
Speaker 1: who is in his first year with a team but
Speaker 1: has been a head coach somewhere else previously, not a
Speaker 1: rookie head coach. That doesn't doesn't count. So yeah, the
Speaker 1: North Turners, the John Foxes, you know, those guys who
Speaker 1: have switched teams and whatnot and faced the Packers. That
Speaker 1: doesn't count. Interesting thing that I found is that Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy actually has a pretty darn goood record against these
Speaker 1: rookie head coaches. He's over his thirteen seasons now he
Speaker 1: is twenty four and nine. And the interesting thing to
Speaker 1: me about that nine in the lost column is that
Speaker 1: three of those nine losses came in McCarthy's own rookie
Speaker 1: head coach season of two thousand and six. So if
Speaker 1: you start at two thousand and seven, when McCarthy was No.
Speaker 1: Longer a rookie head coach. He's only lost six times
Speaker 1: in twelve years, including this year to a rookie head coach.
Speaker 1: Now the loss to the Lions and Matt Patricia that's
Speaker 1: the most recent one here, but not including this year.
Speaker 1: You actually have to go back to when Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: was injured and the Chip Kelly Carter chip Kelly Eagles
Speaker 1: excuse me, came into lambeau Field and beat the Packers
Speaker 1: in a game that Sonic Wallace started, and then Scott
Speaker 1: Tolzene came in after the first series of the game.
Speaker 1: McCarthy had actually gone a handful of years without losing
Speaker 1: to a rookie head coach until until the loss in
Speaker 1: Detroit earlier this year. So Steve Wilkes having a rough
Speaker 1: go of it's so far in in Arizona, and the
Speaker 1: track record for the Packers under Mike McCarthy that this
Speaker 1: is the type of game that they win well. And
Speaker 1: I want to set this all up is just everything's
Speaker 1: all doom and gloom with the Cardinals. They've had some
Speaker 1: things go well for them. I think David Johnson has
Speaker 1: re emerged in this offense over the last three games.
Speaker 1: So you have to be cognizant of him. There's talent
Speaker 1: on the roster, there's no question about it. We talked
Speaker 1: about Chandler Jones with his eleven sacks, and he's a
Speaker 1: premier pass rusher in this league. The news sounds pretty
Speaker 1: good at this point on David bak Try at left
Speaker 1: tackle being able to play for the Packers. He actually
Speaker 1: did more in Thursday's practice than was anticipated. As long
Speaker 1: as his rehab and recovery and everything goes well, it
Speaker 1: sounds like he's going to play. But if he's not
Speaker 1: at a hundred percent, you are going up against an
Speaker 1: all Pro caliber rusher. Yeah, absolutely, and you look offensively
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. We've talked about him this week and and
Speaker 1: how savvy he is and what he could potentially do
Speaker 1: to you. But at the end of the day, there
Speaker 1: was a reason why I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: view the Cardinals being a somewhat rebuilding mode and the
Speaker 1: post Bruce arians era in the Packers to initially be
Speaker 1: a title contender this season. It's the makeup of the roster,
Speaker 1: it's the overall depth of the team, and while the
Speaker 1: Packers are working through some injuries right now, I think
Speaker 1: stud for stud playmaker for playmaker, there's the tilts to
Speaker 1: their side of the field. So for me, I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand these last couple of weeks have been tough
Speaker 1: and they've taken some on the chin on the road
Speaker 1: as difficult that is, you have to flush it. You
Speaker 1: have to remember what you did to the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: here three weeks ago, and what exactly went well in
Speaker 1: that game for the Packers too, for the most part,
Speaker 1: control the tempo of that entire contest. For Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: one of the things I brought up in our final
Speaker 1: Thoughts video that you referenced six centers or eleven interceptions
Speaker 1: eleven turnovers. Excuse me and keep messing that up. Over
Speaker 1: the last six games, nine interceptions, two fumbles lost the
Speaker 1: Grimmy Packers have wanted to go get the football. They
Speaker 1: wanted to turn over the football. Mike Patton's big headline
Speaker 1: type statement on Thursday night when he met with the
Speaker 1: media was we have to take the football away. It's
Speaker 1: what his best defense is. In addition to be top
Speaker 1: ten units with the Jets and the Bills, they also
Speaker 1: took the ball away a lot. That's the one thing
Speaker 1: that's missing Rosen having the issues that he's had this year.
Speaker 1: As you've mentioned before, Mike, when they took on Josh
Speaker 1: Allen earlier this year, that turned out to be a
Speaker 1: recipe for success. They need to do that again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and when you talk about the turnovers on defense, I'm
Speaker 1: sure everybody's getting tired of us talking about it and
Speaker 1: it being mentioned so often. But you can't you almost
Speaker 1: can't harp on it enough because all you have to
Speaker 1: do is look a few hours south at the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears and the fact that in the span of five days,
Speaker 1: with two division games on the docket a Sunday night
Speaker 1: game followed by Thursday afternoon game, the Bears got two
Speaker 1: picks sixes from Eddie Jackson against Kirk Cousins and against
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford that both proved critical to winning those games.
Speaker 1: The Bears are doing it with defense and takeaways. They
Speaker 1: lead the league in turnover margin. And yes, there is
Speaker 1: nothing that is necessarily spectacular about the Bears offense. Mitch
Speaker 1: Drabinski is now injured. They're dealing with Chase Daniel as
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. The Bears are inning with defense and turnovers.
Speaker 1: They're sitting there at eight and three in the in
Speaker 1: the catbird seed in the NFC North because they take
Speaker 1: the football away. And I was doing our Packers pregame
Speaker 1: radio on Sunday night before that game against Minnesota, and
Speaker 1: one of the things I said, not I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to disrespect anybody here when I say this, but in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, the Bears kind of do remind
Speaker 1: me of I believe it was that two thousand one
Speaker 1: team where Jim Miller was their quarterbacks they and I
Speaker 1: think Anthony Thomas was their running back still at that time,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, they were They did what they had
Speaker 1: to do offensively, and that defense was just so overpowering,
Speaker 1: and I believe they wrote it to a thirteen and
Speaker 1: three record that year. The train eventually stopped for them,
Speaker 1: but that was the year where Dick Geron really got
Speaker 1: that team going. To a certain extent, this team reminds
Speaker 1: me of that a little bit, just based on how
Speaker 1: defense has controlled the temple of things. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I still don't think they're unbeatable. I still
Speaker 1: think the Packers have a very realistic chance with Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers go went into Soldier Field they've done in the
Speaker 1: past and winning, but none of that matters if you
Speaker 1: can't get past Arizona in Atlanta. So the big thing
Speaker 1: we've talked about, Mike, and it's been almost three months now,
Speaker 1: is that you have to get on a winning streak.
Speaker 1: This is Taylor made to start a winning streak for them.
Speaker 1: It's Taylor made to start building some momentum and you
Speaker 1: have to capitalize on it well. As we usually do.
Speaker 1: On our final show the week, we take a look
Speaker 1: at other games around the league, and while we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Bears, they have the New York Giants this week,
Speaker 1: and that's a game that on paper a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: everybody's already chalking it up as a Chicago Bears victory.
Speaker 1: But the Giants are playing better. They took the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles to the wire last week and probably should have
Speaker 1: beaten them. Quite frankly, they had the lead the bulk
Speaker 1: of the game. Sae Kwan Barkley an incredibly dangerous player,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't sound like the Bears are gonna have
Speaker 1: Mitch Rubinsky again. For all the talk about last week,
Speaker 1: the short week, it was on a Thursday, and if
Speaker 1: the game had been on a Sunday, Trubisky probably would
Speaker 1: have played well. Here we are. Now he's too weeks
Speaker 1: into his injury, and they're still talking about starting Chase
Speaker 1: Daniel in East Rutherford on Sunday. This is I mean,
Speaker 1: I know the Giants are three and eight, This is
Speaker 1: no gimme for the Bears, and and with the Vikings
Speaker 1: coming off of their win over the Packers, the Bears,
Speaker 1: the Bears don't want to lose that catbird seat that
Speaker 1: I just mentioned in the NFC norm Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: One of the things I've kind of always said. I've
Speaker 1: never really said it on air, but I've always said
Speaker 1: it to people on the beat. You know, you can talk,
Speaker 1: but it's really that final inactive list that really speaks, right,
Speaker 1: you know exactly. You know, Matt Nage can say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, if it was you can put anybody questionable
Speaker 1: on the court, right, I mean, you can't get fine,
Speaker 1: you can't get fined if a guy is questionable. Whatever.
Speaker 1: The ultimate decisions Bill Belichick, right. But I mean, but
Speaker 1: that's the thing Nay said, you know, if it was
Speaker 1: a full week, he'd play. You just never know, because
Speaker 1: these are human beings and injuries are very real. So
Speaker 1: I've paid I've paid attention to the Giants. I mean,
Speaker 1: I still think there are some glaring weaknesses in that team,
Speaker 1: but you know, with Barkley, with you know, Odell Becky
Speaker 1: Coom Jr. Seems to be in a groove right now
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards again on the season. Evan Ingram
Speaker 1: is healthy again for them, or at least you know,
Speaker 1: was able to return, so potentially being able to to
Speaker 1: build some momentum there. I think this whole week though, Mike,
Speaker 1: when you look at the NFC race, you know the
Speaker 1: Vikings have to go over to New England. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the next one I was going to ask
Speaker 1: you about the Patriots hosting the Minnesota Vikings. That game
Speaker 1: will be right after the Packer games. It's the late
Speaker 1: afternoon kind of national TV spotlight there with with Minnesota
Speaker 1: going to Foxborough. They're count off their win over the
Speaker 1: Packers and uh and the Patriots Suddenly everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: them getting the number one seed in the a f
Speaker 1: C again because of the because of the Steelers losing
Speaker 1: and the fact that they have the tiebreaker over the
Speaker 1: Chiefs because because they beat him head to head. So
Speaker 1: the door is still open for New England to get
Speaker 1: the top seed in the a f C, and you
Speaker 1: look at it. Washington's traveling to Philadelphia. Somebody's going to
Speaker 1: take a loss there. Caroline has been up and down
Speaker 1: there going up against the Tampa Bay team that seemed
Speaker 1: to gain him a little bit of momentum last week.
Speaker 1: And then certainly you see how this thing lines up
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys yesterday getting a much needed victory over
Speaker 1: the Saints. So yeah, there definitely isn't any given Sunday
Speaker 1: approach right now to this conference, and we saw it.
Speaker 1: You outlined at what this is gonna be like for
Speaker 1: the Packers to get where they need to be. You
Speaker 1: have to win five games and you have to see
Speaker 1: how the rest of the thing plays out. But the
Speaker 1: one thing that's underrated, Mike, and I've seen this in
Speaker 1: my own fantasy football league, if you win five straight games,
Speaker 1: it's amazing sometimes how the rest of the pieces start
Speaker 1: to fall in place for you. The Packers saw it
Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen, they saw it in two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen. The Bears still out from front with that division,
Speaker 1: with how log jam this conference is right now, the
Speaker 1: door is still there. Yeah, what are your thoughts quickly
Speaker 1: before we go on that Thursday night game, the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys holding the most explosive offense in the NFC. In
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints a ten game winning streak, it
Speaker 1: comes to an end at Jerry's World thirteen to ten.
Speaker 1: The Saints had three first downs and fifty nine yards
Speaker 1: of offense getting shut out in the first half, and
Speaker 1: then they just couldn't quite muster enough in the second
Speaker 1: half when they shut out the Cowboys themselves, because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are up thirteen nothing. Your thoughts on how that
Speaker 1: played out and what that means now in the NFC playoffs, Well,
Speaker 1: if you know, Matt Arvan up in the studio would
Speaker 1: have our ability to play back video. I said the
Speaker 1: day before this was going to be a supreme test
Speaker 1: for for Dallas defense and to show if they're legit
Speaker 1: or not. They're very legit. Amari Cooper has changed the
Speaker 1: structure of that offense. I mean Dak Prescott, he had
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant, before he had Jason Witten. There was a
Speaker 1: dearth of options for him perimeter wise. They went and
Speaker 1: got to Marie Cooper and I know it was only
Speaker 1: eight catches for seventy five yards, but possessions stuff like
Speaker 1: that and watching him the way he moved the ball
Speaker 1: underneath there just with so much more rhythm with that offense.
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that Zeke Elliott didn't have this monster game,
Speaker 1: he only had seventy three carry or seventy six yards
Speaker 1: on twenty three carries, and offensively, the Saints just couldn't
Speaker 1: get anything going on their end of things. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Dallas is right back in this thing in Washington
Speaker 1: dealing with what they're dealing with injuries wise, it puts
Speaker 1: them in a tough spot as well. That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say is is now things kind of are
Speaker 1: setting up for Dallas just the way you would. I know,
Speaker 1: everybody was writing them off at three and five, and
Speaker 1: what's wrong with the Cowboys and his Dak Prescott really
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the future will Suddenly They've now won
Speaker 1: four in a row, the fourth win coming against the
Speaker 1: top team in the NFC that was riding a ten
Speaker 1: game winning streak in the Saints and then their strongest
Speaker 1: competition in the NFC East, has a backup quarterback for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season because of that unfortunate and
Speaker 1: horrific injury to Alex Smith. While the Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles just haven't quite found
Speaker 1: their footing yet and are still trying to get back
Speaker 1: to five to say that, yeah, yeah, we're still in this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's still right there for everybody, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how it plays out. Um. As
Speaker 1: we begin to wrap up the show, Mike, am I
Speaker 1: allowed to potentially add another segment to this thing? Sure,
Speaker 1: I know you're the show. Here's um. I do want
Speaker 1: to make notice that this is the My Cause, My
Speaker 1: Cleats weekend for the Packers. Now, the way it works
Speaker 1: is you can do it basically any week time between
Speaker 1: week thirteen and week fifteen goes open. A majority of
Speaker 1: the players, though wearing cleats for certain causes. Davante Adams
Speaker 1: cystic vibrosis, Reggie Gilbert, a number of different guys, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I believe doing the Wounded Warrior fund um. But also
Speaker 1: I want to mention jire Alexander, who had a chance
Speaker 1: to in bed with earlier this week at a event
Speaker 1: he hosted for the Boys and Girls Club of Green Bay.
Speaker 1: Wrote a story for that on our website. Also some
Speaker 1: great multimedia things we did as well. It's a really
Speaker 1: good piece. By the way, you should definitely check it out.
Speaker 1: Kind of gives you a little bit more of an
Speaker 1: insight into Alexander's background and and just kind of the
Speaker 1: personality that he is off the field, because we've seen
Speaker 1: so much of what he's like on the field. And
Speaker 1: and my biggest takeaway, if you get a chance to
Speaker 1: check it out, or even if you don't, is kind
Speaker 1: of getting understanding for how something like Boys and Girls
Speaker 1: Club what kind of lasting impact that can have on
Speaker 1: an individual. In jire Alexander's case, um, you know, he
Speaker 1: he had some very humble beginnings. Football wasn't immediately presented
Speaker 1: to him as an option. There were some things that
Speaker 1: his family had to overcome. Well, it was actually through
Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls Club down in his hometown of
Speaker 1: Charlotte that he got introduced to it. Was able to
Speaker 1: play pop worn or foot ball through it. Um he said,
Speaker 1: it wasn't, you know, always glamorous. You know, the fields
Speaker 1: that they played on had thorns and holes and things
Speaker 1: like that. He'd go home and he'd be scratching and itching.
Speaker 1: But it was there that he developed the love for it.
Speaker 1: And then as time went on, he realized this is
Speaker 1: something that I can actually do to potentially help improve
Speaker 1: my family situation, you know, and had a chance to
Speaker 1: bring twenty kids out from the Green Bay Boys and
Speaker 1: Girls Club. Uh, they went to flow yoga. UM. If
Speaker 1: you know anything about Ryan Cunningham, she works with a
Speaker 1: lot of packer players, Tremont Williams being one of her
Speaker 1: main ones. Um and being able to just sit down
Speaker 1: with kids for forty five minutes an hour, did all
Speaker 1: the yoga poses with him, did the meditation, then had
Speaker 1: probably the biggest most interactive Q and A session I
Speaker 1: think I've ever witnessed from seven to twelve year olds.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was incredible how engaged they were with it.
Speaker 1: Jaire Alexander has a real interesting personality, as we've talked
Speaker 1: about in the past, extremely extroverted, very confident in himself,
Speaker 1: but also has a real tremendous ability to get on
Speaker 1: the level of anybody. And in this case, it was
Speaker 1: interacting with kids that he never met before but made
Speaker 1: a point to learn their name and be able to
Speaker 1: have that kind of relationship and talking to the organizers
Speaker 1: of it. Just something that those kids are gonna remember forever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's very relatable certainly, and I think If I were
Speaker 1: to pick out a favorite part of your story which
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed reading, it was when you were talking
Speaker 1: to Jaire about his reaction to seeing one of the
Speaker 1: kids from the Boys and Girls Club wearing his number
Speaker 1: twenty three jersey. And when you're talking about a kid
Speaker 1: who was part of a boys and girls club, as
Speaker 1: you said, back in Charlotte, and playing learning the game
Speaker 1: and falling in love with the game on these bumpy
Speaker 1: fields that you know, wrecked, you know, bruised up his
Speaker 1: body and all of that kind of stuff because because
Speaker 1: there just weren't the great parks to play in where
Speaker 1: he grew up. His his reaction to seeing, you know,
Speaker 1: a young boy at the at the Boys and Girls
Speaker 1: Club of Green Bay wearing a number twenty three jersey
Speaker 1: kind of a touching part of the story, to say
Speaker 1: the least. And he said, I mean money, you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you come from. A hundred dollars is
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars just spend on jerseys. And when he
Speaker 1: was a kid, he had one jersey. It was Michael
Speaker 1: Vick number seven. He got it for his seventh birthday.
Speaker 1: He treasured that thing. It means a lot to him.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if it's a young boy, you know,
Speaker 1: sitting in the Boys and Girls club and he wants
Speaker 1: to go over and have a conversation with him. We
Speaker 1: saw it at Century Link Field and we're in Seattle.
Speaker 1: There was two fans sitting in the crowd during warmups.
Speaker 1: He went over there and sought him out. I mean,
Speaker 1: it means a lot to him to get that kind
Speaker 1: of a support and appreciation, and it's interesting to hear
Speaker 1: the paradox between you know, he doesn't pinch himself if
Speaker 1: he's lining up across from Larry Fitzgerald or or if
Speaker 1: it's a you know, Adam Feeland are one of these
Speaker 1: top receivers. But there is an aspect to seeing a
Speaker 1: kid or a person, you know, having his jersey that
Speaker 1: that sort of brings him to in understanding how far
Speaker 1: he's come and everything that played into him getting to
Speaker 1: the position that he's in right now. Yeah, well, a
Speaker 1: great story and hopefully a guy who's going to be
Speaker 1: with the Packers for a long time to come. So
Speaker 1: with that we will call it a wrap on this
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Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team and of Sunday's game
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals on Packers dot com. On Twitter, He's
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Speaker 1: next time.