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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming

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Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambau Field West.

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Speaker 1: Our final show of the week, and that means keys

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Speaker 1: to victory. It will be Packers Cardinals noon Central time,

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Speaker 1: kickoff on Sunday at lambeau Field. The Packers at four

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Speaker 1: six and one, trying to get win number five in

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Speaker 1: this season. What's it gonna take? You know, Mike, It's funny.

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Speaker 1: We are now in week thirteen. As you have alluded

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Speaker 1: to in the past, we've gotten to this point. The

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Speaker 1: records are what they are. Out of any game I

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Speaker 1: think the Packers have played this season, maybe with the

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Speaker 1: exception of the Buffalo Bills, it's a pretty clear and

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Speaker 1: defined path to victory and what they need to do.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the lines in this game coming

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Speaker 1: out of Vegas, you look at you know what the

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Speaker 1: outside perception is, regardless of all what the narrative is.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why the Packers are favored in this

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Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals are in a tight spot right now

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Speaker 1: under Steve Wilkes, and in speaking with the media this week,

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Speaker 1: he acknowledged, you know, some of the things that they've

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Speaker 1: been working through him as a first year coach. Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen is a rookie quarterback. All that being said, the

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Speaker 1: Packers have to take care of business in this game.

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Speaker 1: You asked me what the key to victory is. Everything

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Speaker 1: is the key to victory. Aaron Rodgers needs to play well.

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Speaker 1: The defense needs to take the ball away, Aaron Jones

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Speaker 1: needs to get involved. Davante Adams needs another hundred yard performance.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it takes to get that victory. The Packers need

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Speaker 1: to get it because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: while Mike Petton mentioned it, everybody in the locker room

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Speaker 1: talked about it. You're not looking past the Cardinals. You cannot.

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Speaker 1: You're not in a position to look past the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: The facts are what they are. The Cardinals are two

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Speaker 1: and nine right now, they're on a three game skid.

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Speaker 1: They have the worst ranked offense in seventeen of the

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Speaker 1: top nineteen categories. That's just the facts. For the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers. They need to pick up this win. They

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Speaker 1: need to get on a winning streak here to to

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Speaker 1: make this you know, potentially interesting here down the stretch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, as you said, this one all points to

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Speaker 1: the Packers being so heavily favored because the Cardinals have

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Speaker 1: struggled as much as they have. Obviously, the Packers are

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Speaker 1: undefeated at lambeau Field this year. I said it earlier

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Speaker 1: this week. I said it on our Final Thoughts video

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Speaker 1: which is on our website, which we shot just before

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Speaker 1: we came and sat down here and turned the cameras on.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those games to me, all the

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Speaker 1: circumstances and everything surrounding it, that this is a team

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Speaker 1: you have to jump on them early, break whatever spirit

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Speaker 1: they might have in terms of trying to pull the upset,

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Speaker 1: and then you have to protect the football. And I

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Speaker 1: think if you do that, the combination of the fact

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are two and nine, they've had a

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Speaker 1: really rough go of it year with their rookie head coach.

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Speaker 1: They're a team from the southwestern corner of the United

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Speaker 1: States that plays in warm weather, that plays in a dome.

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Speaker 1: Coming up to lambeau Field where it's gonna the temperatures

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Speaker 1: are going to be in the thirties, don't give them

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Speaker 1: any idea, any sense that they can win this game

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Speaker 1: and where they'll get a sense of winning this game

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Speaker 1: is if the Packers don't start fast, and if the

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Speaker 1: Packers turn the ball over, that that's that's how you

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Speaker 1: give a team like this life in a situation like this,

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Speaker 1: And to me, it's as simple as that. That's what

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Speaker 1: the Packers have to do well. And it's kind of

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Speaker 1: stunning in some ways with the Cardinals because we're there.

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Speaker 1: Through eleven games here right now, Mike, they've only scored

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Speaker 1: more than three touchdowns, more than twenty one points in

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Speaker 1: one occasion, and it was victory over San Francisco, who

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Speaker 1: just so happens to be the only team they've beaten

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Speaker 1: this year. They did it twice to victories over the Ers.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the main reason you always want to start fast,

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Speaker 1: You always want to stop on them early. But they're

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Speaker 1: coming off a forty I have to tend loss against

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. The thing I think a lot

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Speaker 1: win that game. Right. The Cardinals had the lead earlier,

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Speaker 1: they led after the first quarter, tended nothing in the child.

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Speaker 1: I believe they missed a field goal somewhere in there too,

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Speaker 1: the Plans. But on the other side of it, the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers have played with some really good football

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Speaker 1: teams in the last over the last month. I understand

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Speaker 1: what the record is. I know they didn't win those games,

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Speaker 1: but there's a there's levels to this, right the Rams, Patriots,

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Speaker 1: in the Seahawks. They're on a different level right now

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Speaker 1: than Arizona is. You can't play down to that. You

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Speaker 1: have to come out, you have to look strong, you

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Speaker 1: have to defend your home turf. Yeah. I did a

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Speaker 1: regards to uh Steve Wilkes being a rookie head coach

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Speaker 1: head coach. Now, to define that, what I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: rookie head coach. That doesn't doesn't count. So yeah, the

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Speaker 1: North Turners, the John Foxes, you know, those guys who

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Speaker 1: doesn't count. Interesting thing that I found is that Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy actually has a pretty darn goood record against these

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Speaker 1: is twenty four and nine. And the interesting thing to

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Speaker 1: three of those nine losses came in McCarthy's own rookie

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Speaker 1: Longer a rookie head coach. He's only lost six times

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Speaker 1: Now the loss to the Lions and Matt Patricia that's

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Speaker 1: the most recent one here, but not including this year.

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Speaker 1: You actually have to go back to when Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: in a game that Sonic Wallace started, and then Scott

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Speaker 1: McCarthy had actually gone a handful of years without losing

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Speaker 1: track record for the Packers under Mike McCarthy that this

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Speaker 1: I want to set this all up is just everything's

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Speaker 1: all doom and gloom with the Cardinals. They've had some

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Speaker 1: So you have to be cognizant of him. There's talent

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Speaker 1: good at this point on David bak Try at left

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Speaker 1: did more in Thursday's practice than was anticipated. As long

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Speaker 1: all Pro caliber rusher. Yeah, absolutely, and you look offensively

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. We've talked about him this week and and

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Speaker 1: a title contender this season. It's the makeup of the roster,

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Speaker 1: it's the overall depth of the team, and while the

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Speaker 1: stud for stud playmaker for playmaker, there's the tilts to

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Speaker 1: eleven turnovers. Excuse me and keep messing that up. Over

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Speaker 1: the last six games, nine interceptions, two fumbles lost the

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Speaker 1: Grimmy Packers have wanted to go get the football. They

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Speaker 1: wanted to turn over the football. Mike Patton's big headline

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Speaker 1: As you've mentioned before, Mike, when they took on Josh

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Speaker 1: The Bears are doing it with defense and takeaways. They

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Speaker 1: nothing that is necessarily spectacular about the Bears offense. Mitch

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Speaker 1: They're sitting there at eight and three in the in

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Speaker 1: the catbird seed in the NFC North because they take

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways, the Bears kind of do remind

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Speaker 1: me of I believe it was that two thousand one

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Speaker 1: great story and hopefully a guy who's going to be

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Speaker 1: at west Hot. I'm at Mike Spofford at Packers for

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