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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello? Is this gek? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Who is this? Hey?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Gek?

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Speaker 2: My name's Andrew, Andrew? What's going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So I guess I'll just start where I tested you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thirty four now, which you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: great midlife crisis or whatever. I came up from a

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Speaker 1: And as I've progressed in my life, I've kind of

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Speaker 1: straightened it all out. But I find myself in like

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Speaker 1: bouts of depression and just absolute boredom. The mundane day

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Speaker 1: to day is like it's killing my soul. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: in spite of the exciting life that I used to have.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, how excited I mean? And you'll, you know,

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Speaker 2: only you can truthfully answer this question, But how exciting

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Speaker 2: was it? Really?

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, just as an example, some of the

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Speaker 1: escapades or whatever that I was getting into, I kind

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Speaker 1: of had like a violent streak back then, so like

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Speaker 1: I would definitely get like a fix of adrenaline on

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Speaker 1: a regular basis when I was doing drugs.

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Speaker 2: Would you say a violent streak like you.

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Speaker 1: Were like I was like clubbing people with tire irons,

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Speaker 1: like it was it was pretty okay, pretty bad. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thankfully I was one of those people that just wouldn't

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Speaker 1: take a plea deal. So I don't have a criminal.

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Speaker 2: Record now, Oh there we go. Wait, so when you say,

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Speaker 2: don't you know, when you say you didn't take a

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Speaker 2: plea deal, what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I was arrested for a lot of this stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I refused to take whatever plea deal that they

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Speaker 1: were trying to throw at me in California. And when

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Speaker 1: I was trying to take it to court, they would

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Speaker 1: always find some way of either expunging or stealing the record.

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Speaker 2: Is it though that? Yeah, go ahead, I'll say my

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Speaker 2: questions to the end.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's fine. Yeah. I was just saying, like,

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Speaker 1: so with the being sealed and stuff, my my record's

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Speaker 1: actually pretty pristine in spite of everything that I was doing.

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Speaker 2: And how long have you been clean from meth? For?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: It has got to be about fourteen years now. I

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Speaker 1: really didn't keep track, but I want to say the

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Speaker 1: last time that I can't do math, I was twenty

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Speaker 1: four when I stopped, so it's been almost ten years,

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Speaker 2: And when you say when you when you use the

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Speaker 2: phrase excitement, are you referring to like all the all

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Speaker 2: the crazy stuff you were doing ten years ago? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah?

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Speaker 2: But now in the in in the past ten years,

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Speaker 2: has anything given you, uh, you know, as much, if

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Speaker 2: not more excitement than clubbing someone with a tire iron?

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Speaker 1: Really, if I'm being fully honest about it, not, really,

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Speaker 1: I've found myself just being really bored. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: went from basically a borderline poverty to I'm making about

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year now

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Speaker 1: running my own business, and I still haven't found anything

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Speaker 2: I guess, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: So? I actually have a dog walking business that I

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Speaker 1: didn't think was going to turn out to be as

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Speaker 1: honestly took off to a point that I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 2: Can I ask what city or inner state.

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Speaker 1: I am near, Palm Beach Island, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And what's your family life like? Do you have

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Speaker 1: I'm I've had a series of long term relationships that

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Speaker 1: just didn't work out. So currently, No, I'm single actually

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Speaker 1: for the first time in yeah, and since I was seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually like single and have been remaining so on purpose.

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Speaker 1: And then my family life is kind of touchy. It's

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Speaker 2: So you've been cleaning sober for ten ten years? And

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Speaker 2: have you been when did you set the dog walking business.

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Speaker 1: About seven years back?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so have you just been bored for ten years

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Speaker 1: Honestly? Yeah, you know, my day to day, like I

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Speaker 2: How's the gambling going, you know, up and down? And

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Speaker 2: the whole time it's been in Palm Beach.

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Speaker 1: More or less, I mean, it's been Palm Beach County.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a lot of friends down there?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a lot, but I have pretty good

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's that's good. That's a lot of friends.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm being absolutely honest about it, it's just

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Speaker 1: that there is no comparing going and getting Chipotle with

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Speaker 2: You know why, I get like what I mean, for real, man, like,

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Speaker 2: do you when you look back upon violent straight like

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Speaker 2: you do you? I mean, do you look at it

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit Most of the people that that

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Speaker 1: I ended up, you know, uh having interactions with back

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Speaker 1: then in that capacity they kind of deserved it. They're

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Speaker 1: they're kind of pieces of ship. Mm hmm. I mean

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Speaker 1: no one's going to care. Then It's fine.

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Speaker 2: Mm hm Uh. You sound like you're you're primed to

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Speaker 2: become the palm beach batman. If that's what you really

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Speaker 1: I don't want to though, Like I really like, I

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Speaker 1: I have. But at the same time, I just find

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Speaker 2: I mean, over the past ten years, have there been

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Speaker 1: To be honest, realistically, I just kind of maybe to

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Speaker 2: M hmm. I don't know, man, It's interesting, and I

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Speaker 2: I feel you on just like life being boring because

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Speaker 2: I can't sit still either. I just feel like I

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Speaker 2: I think a nonprofit's a good idea. It's I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's certainly I'm gonna say, a nonprofit helping abused animals

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Speaker 2: is a better idea for you to cure your boredom

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Speaker 2: than to beat beat people up. Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think that's fair to say, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It's probably a better use my energy and it would

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Speaker 1: probably benefit the world more. And you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: how do I how do I really just get over

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Speaker 1: all just strategizing, putting the money aside, and making sure

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Speaker 2: Well okay, well ok, well, so we're talking about two

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Speaker 2: different things here, because you're saying there's no adrenaline. There's

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Speaker 2: a difference between running a small dog walking business is

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Speaker 2: not as exciting as beating people up, and nothing is

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Speaker 2: as exciting as beating people up.

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Speaker 1: Correct, I mean, yeah, just for example, beating people up,

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Speaker 1: I mean there was obviously other things, you know, running

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Speaker 1: An is that I can look back on and say, well,

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Speaker 2: Me ask you this because I mean, I assume why

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Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm actually really bad about that. I I

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess. I mean, I'm asking because it's a

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I just I really haven't, I guess, engaged

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Speaker 1: it's just the reality of how I'm thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: But I understand that there is a community there that

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, I'm also very interested that this is

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Speaker 2: not a new problem. This is something you've been having

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Speaker 1: Out slow simmering in the past.

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Speaker 2: Ten years, and so I'm curious in what ways you've

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Speaker 2: addressed attempted to, whether successfully or unsuccessfully address this issue

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Speaker 1: Mostly I just say it is what it is, and

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Speaker 1: I try and move on day to day. But over

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Speaker 1: I can't go back to that kind of a lifestyle

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Speaker 1: And since I know I have that understand like it's

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Speaker 1: a little too introspective, but yeah, since I have the

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Speaker 2: You should. I have a movie for you to watch.

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Speaker 2: It's not helpful at all. It's called The Incredibles.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: You've seen the Incredibles. It just like this guy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's different because it wasn't he wasn't into meth, but

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Speaker 2: like he you know, he was. He was He liked

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Speaker 2: to beat people up that he felt like deserved it.

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Speaker 2: That was his thing, and he was doing pretty good

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Speaker 2: But it's a little bit about it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't quote me anything I've ever said.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's That's where I'm kind of at

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, I'm going to say this to

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Speaker 2: beneath everything. My viewpoint on this, whatever you're doing, you know,

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Speaker 2: this point, there's like a ninety nine chance that it's

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take solace in it. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

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Speaker 1: Uck? Pitches, make money?

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Speaker 2: Take care? Thanks Andrew?

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Speaker 1: All right, greg.

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Speaker 3: By? Hello?

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Speaker 2: Hello there? What is your name?

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Speaker 5: Hi?

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Speaker 2: I'm mister Sweetness, mister sweet to be?

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Speaker 3: You know a Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What where'd you get the name? Mister sweetness?

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Speaker 3: Mister Sweetness is actually my performer name when I get there.

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Speaker 2: Yes, hold on, mister sweetness is your performer name when

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Speaker 2: you get there? Okay, what do you well? What do

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Speaker 3: I'm a complete singer. I've been singing for twelve years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you mean by get there? Sounds like

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been in a special situation. I've been singing

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Speaker 3: for twelve years. I've been in a choir. My whole

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Speaker 3: That's kind of much how I dictated all my choices

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are you trying? What kind of decision

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Speaker 3: So? As an artist and I and I plan on having, like,

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, so you texted me. You said, I think

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Speaker 3: So I know that I h I can be pretty

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Speaker 2: So look, look, man, we're getting a little off track here.

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Speaker 2: What do you What do you mean by your becoming

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if we're let me back up for a second.

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Speaker 2: You desire to you have a lot of stuff you

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Speaker 2: you want to make videos. That's all great. Why I'm

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Speaker 3: I don't think artists are good people. A majority of

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Speaker 3: Like you know, they're not going to tell every other person,

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Speaker 2: Gonna I got to mister sweetness, I gotta stop you. Right,

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Speaker 2: mister sweetness, You've so you've decided in your brain that

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Speaker 2: in order for you to become a successful singer, you

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Speaker 3: Not exactly an asshole, but I have to be selfish.

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Speaker 3: I have to really put myself in my goal and

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Speaker 3: type situation. It has to be number one priority, is

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Speaker 2: Mister, mister sweetness, Can I ask you something? Yes, have

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Speaker 2: you made a single video?

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Speaker 3: I make funny videos, but I haven't made a single song.

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Speaker 2: Okay, mister sweetness, you've before even releasing a single song,

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Speaker 2: before even trying to do anything, before even presenting yourself

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Speaker 3: In a broad sense, I guess I have to.

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Speaker 2: Just really, there's, mister, mister sweetness, sweetness, there's there's, there's

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Speaker 2: I just my friends, there's no there's there's. I'm just

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Speaker 2: This is not where your brain should be, you know

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Speaker 2: Go put yourself out on the internet, and you can.

438
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to tell you you can

439
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: present yourself however you desire and if how you desire

440
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: to be in this and not even present forget about that.

441
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: If just how you desire to be is mister sweetness,

442
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: sweet guy, nice guy, family man, all that stuff, then

443
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: go fucking be it. Why have you decided that you

444
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: can't be that? You've decided that you can't be that

445
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: literally for no reason, or actually, no, no, I'm not

446
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: gonna say you've decided to be that for no reason,

447
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: because I think the reason you've decided to be that

448
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: is because I don't know, man, you'll you'll think about

449
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: like whatever, Kanye West or fucking I don't know why.

450
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: I just I don't have good examples. But you've just

451
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 2: decided that the trope of like somebody who's successful is

452
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: an asshole. And you've probably decided that for examples that

453
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: you have, and and those examples are are wrong, and

454
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: that decision is wrong. And I really strongly encourage you

455
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: to stop thinking like that because it's not gonna it's

456
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: not helpful to anybody, that's fair.

457
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: The mindset really stems from, like, I don't know if

458
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: you've ever liked watched like, well, yeah, of course, a

459
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: cartoon is a story like the stories where the villain

460
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: is generally and this is just like storytelling in general,

461
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: and just cartoons and shows up washing stuff. The villain

462
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: is dress up as he's already won. He's he's the

463
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 3: one winning. He shows it, it shows and it detects

464
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: the story.

465
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: That mister sweetness, I'm sorry, but what what are you

466
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: talking like? Dude?

467
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'm it's a comparative.

468
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Sorry. No, no, no, don't don't don't be, don't be,

469
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: don't be sorry. I'm just like it. I I'm trying.

470
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this because I don't want you to.

471
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: This is your this mindset that you have is it's

472
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: like defeating you know, you call yourself mistress. And by

473
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: the way, I listen, if you told me right now

474
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: you were like I just I kind of want to

475
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: be an asshole a bunch of people, I'd be like,

476
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: all right, yes, your god given right is you can

477
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: go being out. Okay, if that's what you want to do,

478
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 2: is be an asshole and go go ahead being out.

479
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: That's that's what you want to do. But that's not

480
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: it's not even That's what makes it extra sad. It's

481
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: not even what you want to do. You know, you're

482
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: not even sitting here like I bet it would be

483
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: awesome to be a dick to people all the time.

484
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: You're you call yourself mister sweetness. You are literally you're

485
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: sitting here like, oh, I want to be mister sweetness.

486
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: I want to be a nice guy, but I think

487
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: I first I have to be an asshole if I

488
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: want to succeed, And that's sad, and I don't think

489
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: that's based off of anything that is remotely true. So

490
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 2: I strongly encourage you to stop thinking like that and

491
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: just go, you know, make your music, like that's all

492
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: that fucking matters.

493
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, that's very true.

494
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: I do one hundred percent agree with that. And it's

495
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: more of like, am I a bad person or a

496
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 3: villain in that person in this scenario if I have

497
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: to make a decision where hey, me and this dude

498
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: we were making where we had good chemistry, but something

499
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: happened and he's slowing down, and I feel like I

500
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: need to keep going. And that's that's where I've been,

501
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: like in a lot of positions where I feel like

502
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: I have to cut these people off or like get

503
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: in people or situations I just have to cut it off,

504
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: and I forgot to keep going. But at the same time,

505
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: I'm losing like, you know, friends here and there, and

506
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: like these are like real relationships, and I feel like I.

507
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: So a couple of things. One is that that doesn't

508
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: make you a villain, because I mean, it's just like,

509
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: was this like your boyfriend or this was like a

510
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: guy that you were seeing I have.

511
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: It's just connections from singing from all the years and

512
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: people who have been trying to work with and all

513
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: that jazz, and some relationships just like pass love stuff

514
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: like that. But just in general, I can make these decisions,

515
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: and I don't feel bad about making these decisions. I

516
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: can do it relatively quickly. I can cut people off

517
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: relatively quickly.

518
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 2: And look and look and look, I do. I do

519
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: think you're okay. I do think you're right in that

520
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: if you want to get successful at something, obviously you

521
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: do have to like have priorities, and you know, yeah,

522
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: you might need to you know, you might decide that

523
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: you want to spend your free time in your you know,

524
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: studio whatever making music instead of like hanging out with

525
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: your homies. But that doesn't mean you have to never

526
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: talk to them ever again. Like and also and also

527
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: that doesn't make you a villain or a bad person,

528
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, especially like romantically, if you're talking about like

529
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: you were gonna you were dating somebody, but they had

530
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: different life priorities than you had. Uh, that's just incompatibility.

531
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: That doesn't make you a villain.

532
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Well, then I guess I'm not gonna

533
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: be the villain. I'll be mister Sweetness.

534
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: Your mister sweetness, sweetest guy around.

535
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, all.

536
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Right, here's what? All right? Give us a fucking lick, bro,

537
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Come on, what's up? Give us? Drop us, drop us

538
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: a tune.

539
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: Oh, let's see what can I drop? What can I

540
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: sing for? Y'all?

541
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: Mister fucking sweetness? Sing us a tune?

542
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: Sing y'all, It's y'all, y'all.

543
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: Listen to the.

544
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: Hell of a Box. Yeah, Hell of a Boss episode

545
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: The Loser Baby the your uh lose the baby lose it.

546
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: Gosh damn baby, you're fucked up, little wine dish. You

547
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: will lose it just like me. You're a screw lose screw.

548
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: Only one star review of your power Bottom at rock

549
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: Bottom and you got company. I love that song.

550
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: What Who's Who's hell of a Boss? I don't know

551
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: what is that?

552
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: Hell of a Boss is a YouTube. This is a

553
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: really really cool thing, and this is like a cartoon.

554
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: You should go into it because it's awesome. It's YouTube

555
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: originated cartoon. So it was a pot it was like

556
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: a pilot. It just it was just running through. It

557
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: beat all the odds. And now it's on Amazon Prime

558
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: and it's called Hotel, not hell of a box. This

559
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: one I'm The song I reference is from Hagden Hotel.

560
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of that. Watch. I've heard of it.

561
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: Definitely recommend it. It's like it'd be all the odds.

562
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: It shouldn't. It shouldn't even be a show because people

563
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: were like, I don't know how I'm gonna get off

564
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: of YouTube. Someone about it and Didsey Pop.

565
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: Is her name.

566
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: I believe she's amazing and she's been running with it.

567
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: I love it.

568
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, mister sweetness, Uh, good luck, man, don't I would hate.

569
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: I'm glad we have. I'm glad we had this conversation

570
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: because I really do. I am like, I really I

571
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: mean this. I feel like you have created this mindset

572
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: for yourself that is that is only damaging. It's not

573
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: gonna help you. So I hope you reflect on it.

574
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for picking up. I really do appreciate

575
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: this is like I've been man, I've been listening to

576
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: podcast for like ever. My workout be blowing through those

577
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: workouts listening to these conversations.

578
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: Just awesome sweetness. All right, man, you have you have

579
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: a good one. Good luck, and I'm all excited to

580
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: see you on uh on.

581
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: Mister sweetness on all platforms. If you want to see

582
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: when I dropped stuff for anyone out there.

583
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: What is it?

584
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: You already know the name, mister sweetness.

585
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: You know the name you got, you got, hold on,

586
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: you got mister sweetness. It's not like mister sweetness six.

587
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: I think TikTok is three because TikTok, but Instagram, mister

588
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: seenis you? I got all that quick. I love his name.

589
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: All right, I'll check you out. I'll check you out.

590
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling missus, thank you for having me.

591
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: Y'all have a sweet day.

592
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: I don't I guess it just doesn't make what I'm

593
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: laughing because it's just funny that this guy he and

594
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: you know he is, he's a sweet guy. And he

595
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: was so worried because he was convinced that if he

596
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: wanted to like sing, he had to start being an asshole.

597
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think I don't know, I don't think

598
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: that that's true, although it would be kind of cool if,

599
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: like if he occasionally was an asshole and he it

600
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: was like mister Sweetness had a sour side, like you

601
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: you get on my you fuck with mister Sweetness, Maybe

602
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: mister Sower comes out. I don't know. Hello, Hi, what's

603
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: your name? Kayla? Well, Kayla? What's up?

604
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: Man?

605
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: How can I get you today? What's going on?

606
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: Got a couple of things going on? Man?

607
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe?

608
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: First off, uh, my mom's a narcissist and she won't

609
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 4: let me move out of the house, and it kind

610
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: of sucks. I'm like, I'm trying to move on the house.

611
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: How old are you?

612
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm twenty three.

613
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: You're twenty three and your mom won't let you move

614
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 2: out of the house.

615
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I can, you know, but like

616
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 4: she just keeps gaslighting me, and then so I always

617
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 4: keep staying and I just feel like really guilt trips

618
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 4: and I'm not really sure what to do.

619
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So well, I mean let me ask you this.

620
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: This is I mean, let's talk financials for a second.

621
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: Do you have a job? Do you have money that

622
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: that you would need to move out of the house?

623
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: I do.

624
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 4: I Actually I'm engaged, so like, I have a whole

625
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 4: as fiance and everything, and yeah, I just don't really

626
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: like what the fuck you know?

627
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: I also don't really what the fuck? So you're in gate?

628
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: How old is he?

629
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 4: He's going to be twenty five?

630
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: Okay, you said that you you were you were preparing

631
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: you that that noise you made just before telling me.

632
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: I was prepared for him to be like forty seven

633
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: years old, and you hit me with a two year

634
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: age gap. Okay, So, uh, I guess I still don't

635
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: understand what's preventing you from from leaving the house. Is

636
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 2: it like your mom's just like really, I mean, look

637
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: by the way, your mom's not. Your mom is not

638
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: preventing you from leaving the house. Okay, She's just she's

639
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: guilt tripping you. Is that what's happening?

640
00:36:59,719 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah?

641
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: She like gas lights me all the time.

642
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: What is that? What do you what does that mean? Exactly?

643
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: She holds everything over my head. So like, okay, so

644
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: let me let me let me give you an example. Okay, So,

645
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: like the other week, I asked my mom for one

646
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 4: hundred dollars because she was out of state and I

647
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: was watching her pets for her, which I you know,

648
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: I didn't have to do that, but I did. And

649
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 4: so I was staying there and I asked her for

650
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: one hundred dollars because I paid for a bunch of

651
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 4: stuff for the pets while she was gone. And so

652
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: she gave me the hundred dollars, right, She was like, yeah, sure, whatever,

653
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: here's a hundred bucks. And I was like okay. And

654
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: then after she came back, she was like, did you

655
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 4: drive my car? And I was like, yeah, I drove

656
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 4: it to my grandma's house, which was like twenty minutes away.

657
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: And so she told me that I needed to pay

658
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: her back for gas. She told me that I needed

659
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: to pay her for the hundred dollars and that I

660
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: didn't deserve it, and then, like she just throws everything

661
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: in my face. And so every once in a while too,

662
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: she'll like be like, oh, like, because the only thing

663
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: that she pays for for me still is my car,

664
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 4: my car payment, okay, And so because technically it's her car,

665
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: that's the only thing too, I do not have my

666
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: own car, all right.

667
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: So wait, so so hold on, So she doesn't pay

668
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: your car payment. She pays her own car payment, and

669
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: you sometimes use her car, you don't have a car.

670
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: She does not pay your car.

671
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I have a car that I borrow from them,

672
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: but as far as like her car specifically, like, no,

673
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 4: I don't pay for anything for that.

674
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So Kayla you said your name is yeah, Kayla,

675
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: I get how much money does your mom say that

676
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: you owe her?

677
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 4: Like six hundred seven hundred dollars a month?

678
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: But no, I'm not a month. I'm talking about it.

679
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking about I'm talking about what's a lumps because

680
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: what's a lump sum of money that you could pay

681
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: to your mother to be like, Okay, this is everything

682
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: that you say I owe you as an adult, for

683
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 2: driving your car, for the pets, for whatever. We're done.

684
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: I'm getting out of here. I'm getting my own place,

685
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: I have my own job, I have a fiance. We're

686
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: getting a thing. What's that amount of money?

687
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: Hmm.

688
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: That's a good question, because that's what I'll try and do.

689
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 4: I'll be like, okay, there's no thing.

690
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So you put everything on the table

691
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: and then and then.

692
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 4: What happens and then something else comes up like oh no,

693
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: this just happened, Like you still have to owe that.

694
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 4: But then here's the thing. Here's the thing too, Like

695
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: with a car payment or something. She'll be like, Okay,

696
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: you owe me six hundred dollars for your for this

697
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: car payment. But then when I go to pay it,

698
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 4: she's like, actually, no, it's fine, you don't need to

699
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: pay it.

700
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, why do you owe her for a car payment?

701
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: If it's not who's whose name is the car in.

702
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: Herst that's what I that's what.

703
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: Then you don't own a car payment, then you don't

704
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: owe a car payment.

705
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's valid.

706
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okayler, listen, at a certain points, my mom and

707
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's true.

708
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I just like that and I just

709
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: need to I just need to freaking do it. You

710
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: just freaking do It's really hard. It's been really hard

711
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 4: for me to freaking do it. I mean, I got

712
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: I go to real therapy.

713
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Not what's no? No, No, I am absolutely not real therapy.

714
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: You are to me? What is your real Okay? All right,

715
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: what's your What's I do? I do not desire to

716
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: be real therapy to any I am an insane man

717
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: in a gecko costume. What what? What does your real

718
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: therapist tell you?

719
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Speaker 4: I mean pretty much the same thing that like I

720
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 4: don't know anything, and that mainly a lot of it though,

721
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: is just the way that I grew up because my

722
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 4: parents kept me very like secluded from other things. So

723
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: all I know is what I know that my parents

724
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 4: have given me and thrown at me. So like my

725
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: entire life, I've literally grown up with the fact that

726
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 4: like nothing that I have, like my room, my bed,

727
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: all my stuff, like none of it is actually mine.

728
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 4: It's theirs. And so that's why I always thought, like, oh,

729
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: I just let me just move out at eighteen, But

730
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 4: like I've always been scared of like, okay, if I

731
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 4: leave and they hate me for it, like I'm not

732
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: gonna have anything because all of my stuff or their

733
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 4: stuff isn't actually mine. So that's why I've been like

734
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: you know, getting different jobs and trying to build up

735
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: money so then like all my stuff that I do

736
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: purchase on my own, I can actually take with me.

737
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 2: Yes, I want it. By the way, I just wanted

738
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: to say something. I want to say that's it's it's

739
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: a bummer to me because I think, like, if you're

740
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: a good parent, you're not like drawing these crazy fucking

741
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: lines and like being selfish and you know, like you know,

742
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: saying you owe me this, you owe me that, like

743
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: your kid's your kid, you know. I mean so, so

744
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that you've had this experience where

745
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 2: your mom is holding all of these things over your head,

746
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: you know, And I think that that's not cool. I

747
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: don't think that that's a good way to parent, and

748
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you're having that experience. But I now

749
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: do think that now that you are an adult, now

750
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: that you did get married, now that you have a job,

751
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of time to be like, Okay, you know,

752
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: I can't control that my mom is holding all of

753
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: this shit over to me, but I can, with my

754
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: own adult money, get out of the house and tell

755
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: my mom. You know, I'm not giving you any more money.

756
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: You're not giving me any more money. We are both

757
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: going to Our relationship now is going to be of

758
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: two people who desire to have each other in each

759
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: other's lives, not two people who are constantly, you know,

760
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: dealing with each other financially. You're no longer dealing with

761
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: each other financially, and you know, yeah, so I guess

762
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what's preventing you from from doing that.

763
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: But that's you know, what you gotta do.

764
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's very valid, and it's just it's been

765
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: a time, you know, and it sounds so silly, you know,

766
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 4: because I'm literally like twenty three, and I mean a

767
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: lot of people are still living with their parents. But

768
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 4: like you know, you always hear the thing where it's

769
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: like you either move out your suffer, you stay with

770
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: your parents and you suffer mentally. And sure, yeah, that's.

771
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't think, by the way, I see, I don't

772
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: think there's any shame in like living with it. But

773
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: I lived with my I lived with my parents while

774
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: I was you know, starting doing this podcast, you know,

775
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: and that's that's a great privilege.

776
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, But like.

777
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: You know, if it's causing you deep anguish and you

778
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: have a job and you're making money, you know, go

779
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 2: go out and do it. But I'm gonna tell you something, Kayla.

780
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: We could go and complete in other circles with this,

781
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna stop us from doing that and say

782
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: that you should just do what you're feeling and your

783
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: goot to do.

784
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's valid.

785
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to people?

786
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: The computer before we go?

787
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: I went to your indie show when you came.

788
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: There and it was Indianapolis had a good time.

789
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I know it was. I know it's

790
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: like a year ago.

791
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: But still no I remember, oh hell yeah awesome. No

792
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: I I I I didn't like that. I by that one.

793
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: I thought I thought I sucked.

794
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: But it was good.

795
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: I mean I honestly, like I was like, what's the

796
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 4: fus does Indianapolis have to offer? But you know, quite

797
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 4: a lot, quite a lot, so pretty fun.

798
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: Well, good luck, Kayla, and thanks for thanks. Good luck

799
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: with living in Indianapolis and being a human being on

800
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: the earth. I'll talk to you later.

801
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks, thanks, while bye.

802
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: You know, I it's hard, man, because I I really

803
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: I've been talking a lot about like what I've learned

804
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: from doing this show. And one thing I've learned, like

805
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: just reflecting on my own life is like I've got

806
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: really great parents. I really do, because you know, my

807
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: mom didn't you know, hold anything over me like that.

808
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: And so I'm I'm you know, I empathize with people

809
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: who you know, have have had these kind of situation

810
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: situations like recently, you know, I think I had this

811
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: thing where like I didn't like that my mom like

812
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: was like babying me throughout my life. And you know,

813
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: even after I graduated from high school in college, she

814
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: was still like calling me all the time to ask me,

815
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: like you know, where I was and what I'm doing,

816
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: and and checking in on me. And something something clicked

817
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: to because and I was always like that was always

818
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: bothering me, like you know, hey, I'm an adult, I'm

819
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: you know, uh running all around doing all these things

820
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna be fine, And then it fucking clicked

821
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, bro, like, you know, it's a

822
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: it's a privilege to have your mom calling you and

823
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: checking in on you, you know, like that's a good thing,

824
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: you know, So I uh yeah, I I told her

825
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: the last time she called me, I told her, I

826
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: was like, you know, she said to me, she was like,

827
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: I know that you're twenty and traveling the world, but

828
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: in my brain, you're still four years old. And I

829
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: told her, I was like, you know, I'm sorry if

830
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't always answer your phone calls, but I'm grateful

831
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: that you make them, because especially when you get older,

832
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: you become an adult, it's like nobody's nobody's watching out

833
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: for you anymore. Nobody's making my dent made a dentist

834
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: appointment today. Nobody's making my dentist appointments for me. Nobody's

835
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: making sure that I live my life correctly. You know,

836
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm twenty six, so it's good to have that little

837
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: thing of just your mom calling you, you know. Yeah. Anyway,

838
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm a Gecko. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's the

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Speaker 5: So I want to talk about how I met my husband,

850
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 5: which is kind of a freaky story, but I don't

851
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 5: recommend people normally do stuff like this. I basically met

852
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: him playing Legal Legends. It's been like gaming buddies for

853
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 5: a really long time. At first, I try to be

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00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,000
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855
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856
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Speaker 5: you know, like go out like you gotta do this,

857
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 5: and like actually trying to get him lad, you know,

858
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 5: like a good friend. So then I offered. I was like, hey,

859
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 5: I'll take your virginity, like as a joke. But then

860
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 5: he was like, okay, you said.

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00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: I'll take your virginia joke like you said, well.

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00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 5: It was half joking but half like but like if

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Speaker 2: in the episode description that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com.

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Speaker 2: All right, I have nothing else to say, goes on

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Speaker 2: the line, taking his own calls every night. They can

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Speaker 2: goes to just teaching you cloud of your life. It's

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Speaker 2: not really an expert