1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: What is up, straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Fire for Wednesday, February fourth. We're in the throes of 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: Super Bowl Week, but there aren't a million storylines to discuss. 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: So on today's podcast, we have a really good guest, 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: gentleman by the name of Chris Hine from the Star 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Tribune in Minnesota. He's been covering Anthony Edwards for a 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: few years and he wrote a book about Anthony Edwards. 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna like this. Anthony Edwards potentially destined 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: to be the next big star American anyway in the NBA, 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: and you know they've had a little bit of a 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: pullback this season. Not great, but listen, when you lose 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: Kral Anthony Town's your second best player, you got to 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: kind of rejigger things on the fly with some new players. 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: So I'm not stunned at this. I guess it was 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: a bad pick to go to the finals for me. 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: They won't make the finals this year, but Anthony Edwards 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: still just an incredible talent. I think you're gonna love 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: this interview. However, before we get to the interview, I 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: must say that there is a developing situation in the NBA. 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: So I had to record this late Tuesday night. I'm 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: holding out as long as possible because I have to 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: catch an early flight on Wednesday. And this Kevin Durant 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: stuff is getting crazy. Okay, we talked about it last week. Again, 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes you get lucky, you throw stuff out there. 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 3: You try to read the tea leaves. 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: And this Kevin Durant stuff that we talked about last week. 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Could he be on the market after the flurry of 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Luca traded, dearon Fox traded, Zach Lavine traded. It's like, okay, 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: who's left Jimmy Butler? But that's not happening. And all 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: of a sudden you start to hear rumblings Monday, Kevin 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: Durant on the move. 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: We talked about it. 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Then Tuesday night, what like an hour before he was 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: set to face Oklahoma City, Kevin Durant is doubtful to 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: play against the Thunder with what they're calling an ankle injury. 37 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: I'll let you speculate on that one, but I didn't 38 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: see anything in his prior performance that indicated that he 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: had a significant enough ankle injury. What is bizarre is 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: that Kevin Durant could be headed back to the Golden 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: State Warriors. That's what's insane. Now, Will somebody else swoop 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: in and make a move on him? That remains to 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: be seen. Would Jimmy Butler be happy if suddenly Kevin 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Durant showed up in Miami. 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: I have no idea, no clue. I don't even know 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: that that's feasible. 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: The Sun's problem right now is that they're near the 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: bottom of the table when it comes to the playoffs. 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 3: You don't want to be paying. 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: A fat ass luxury tax bill when you've got Kevin Durant, 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: Devin Booker and Bradley Beal and you do not even 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: get to the playoffs. You just don't want that. 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: So do you move off? 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Durant, get as much of a haul as you can now? 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: Internet sluice. By the way, when digging deep, the. 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors posted, you know some stuff. 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: I guess they have a partnership with American Airlines and 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: they posted all the getting on airplane individual shots, And 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: of course the Peanut Gallery looks closely at the photos 60 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: and they're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, nobody healed. 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: No. 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins no, Kevon Looney. You know, if you add 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: those salaries together and people are thinking something is afoot 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 2: regarding a possible trade between the Warriors and Suns. It's 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: rarely that easy. But again, this will be posted, you know, 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: seven am tomorrow morning. By then, Kevin Durant could be 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: on the move. I'm always looking out for like a 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: sleeper team with the Houston Rockets blow up? What they 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: got to rent Kevin Durant to make a run? 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: I doubt it. I don't see that happening. 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: You know, we saw the Clippers look quite bad against 72 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: the Lakers in the first half at least tonight, and 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: it's like, do the Clippers get involved? Like who else 74 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: would make a move on Kevin Durant? Who's renting Kevin 75 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: Durant in hopes of a push? I mean, you want 76 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: to get crazy. So all this Miles Turner talk from 77 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: the independent Indiana Pacers. What if the Indian Pacer said, hey, hey, 78 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: you guys want a big Probably not, but you're gonna 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: do something for Kevin Durant, And all of a sudden, 80 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant is playing with Tyre's Halliburton and Company and 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: they try to make a move in the East, I 82 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: don't know anything's possible. I'll just say this, the West 83 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: appears kind of sort of ish, wide open. When the Timberwolves, 84 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: the Kings, the Sons and the Warriors, or you're playing teams. 85 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 2: The Mavericks, by the way, due to another loss, have 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: fallen out of the top ten. Things are getting crazy. 87 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: We know Wemby and Fox, once they get together, they're 88 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: going to make a push. It's getting wacky, wild kool 89 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: Aid style in the NBA. All right, without further ado, 90 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: let's get to today's guest, Chris Heine, author of ant 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: The Incredible Journey of NBA rising star Anthony Edwards. 92 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 93 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 95 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. 97 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: I know what sports fans want, but for. 98 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: guy who knows another guy. 101 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire a new guest. 102 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: He has written a book on Anthony Edwards. He's been 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: around the team for what seven eight years now. Chris 104 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: Hine from the Start tribute, Chris, how you doing, man? 105 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: Man, I'm good. Jason here you thank you for having me. 106 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 107 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. No. 108 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: No. 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: As soon as Rob was like, hey, this guy wrote 110 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: a book on Anthony Edwards, I was like, oh goodness, gracious, 111 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm in uh just because the NBA is so crazy 112 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: right now. Obviously on the heels of the Luca Anthony Davis, 113 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: Trade Yeaddaron Fox going to the Spurs. There's now chatter 114 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler could be going somewhere. You got the Kevin 115 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Durant stuff starting to rebubble up. And here it is, 116 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: you wrote a book on a guy who, what like 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: maybe seven months ago they were saying could be the 118 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: face of the league. It's it's all crazy. Let's start 119 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: with how the book came about. Tell us how how 120 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: what would you approached Edwards about it? 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it was it was about that seven 122 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: month ago period in the playoffs when you know they 123 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: beat the Phoenix Suns and ant highlights and press conference 124 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: clips were just all over your social media feeds, and 125 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: and my publisher on the book. Harper Collins was interested 126 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: in doing the book, and I give a lot of 127 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 4: credit to my friend Joe Perry. He and I grew up, 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: grew up in the same small town in Pennsylvania. Oh 129 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 4: what down in Pennsylvania, West Pittston, Pennsylvania. It's called We 130 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: played a little league. We Hadds, very small, five thousand 131 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: people or so, two hours north of Philly. Okay. So 132 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 4: we grew up playing little league together. And he entered 133 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: the literary world and became an agent, and he and 134 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: I connected with each other. He heard that Harper Collins 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: wanted a book on Anthony Edwards, and here we are 136 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 4: all these these months later. That's how it all kind 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: of came about, very very quickly. 138 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: Actually, So Edwards had to talk trash to Kevin Durant 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: and I think they swept this up ones and then 140 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: they took down the Nuggets, and I'm sure that's when 141 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: things really ramped up. Huh. 142 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was before Game seven. I was actually getting 143 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: ready to fly to Denver for Game seven, and so 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 4: it was that day, really like the day before Game seven, 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: that I had the first conversation about it. And then 146 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: soon after that it became a reality and then I 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 4: just basically spent the entire summer trying to report it. 148 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 4: I went down to Atlanta for a month where he's from, 149 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: tried to get to know as many people as I 150 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: could from his youth. Obviously around the team, I've had 151 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 4: relationships and connections with people over the seven years i've 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: covered the Timberwolves. So that's the book is kind of 153 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: melding his upbringing, his young life with his NBA life 154 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: and life story of Anthony Edwards. 155 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 3: That's wild. 156 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: I remember we had a guy on our podcast before 157 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: the draft where it was Aunt and LaMelo, and there 158 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: were questions about whether or not Anthony Edwards. You know, 159 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: does this guy really love basketball? He's talking about foot 160 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Apparently he was an amazing high school football player or 161 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: had the potential as like a youth guy, to be 162 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: an awesome football player, and there were questions about it. 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: And I'm like, listen, guys, have I didn't watch a 164 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: billion Georgia games, but I watched enough that holy kn't 165 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: how this guy's electric and he's going to be awesome. 166 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 3: Now I didn't think he would be this good. 167 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: But during your research, did you find that it was 168 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: like a football or basketball decision? For him. 169 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a good question, because people in his 170 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: life from a young age were very focused on his 171 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: football career, and everybody thought he was going to be 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: a football star, that that was going to be his route. 173 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: He grew up playing for the Atlanta Vikings, like this 174 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: renowned youth program in the Atlanta area, and he was 175 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: a star player. You go back and watch some of 176 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 4: his YouTube highlights, and I compare him to like Derrick Henry. 177 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: He's massive, he towers over people. He'll truck defensive backs 178 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 4: to farm them, you know. And he was He played 179 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: primarily running back back then, and that's where everybody thought 180 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: his future was going to be. They didn't think he 181 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: was going to be a basketball play And then right 182 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: around the time he was thirteen fourteen, he kind of 183 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: switched gears and he became a basketball player. He started 184 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: getting in the gym a lot more. It became addictive 185 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: to him to get in the gym. And so I 186 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: think one of the things that this book will answer 187 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: is why that reputation developed about him not loving the 188 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 4: game of basketball, and how that came about during the 189 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: draft process, and why people in his past and people 190 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: with the Timberwolves when you ask them about that, they 191 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 4: essentially laughed off. They said that couldn't be farther from 192 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: the truth about his desire to work, his competitiveness, and 193 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 4: how often he's in the gym, which is honestly a 194 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: very relevant conversation given what just happened with the Luca 195 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: Donchich trade and how the Mavericks kind of felt about 196 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: his you know, fitness or whatever you want to believe 197 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 4: coming out of the Dallas Mavericks right now, it's a 198 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: very relevant conversation to how the Minnesota Timberwolves view Anthony 199 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: Edwards and his work ethic and his habits and how 200 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: that has developed the time you know, he was a 201 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: prospect to his fifth season in the NBA and the 202 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: changes that he's undergone since then. The book kind of 203 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: delves into all of that. 204 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: So it could have been just some opo research from 205 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: like the LaMelo Ball or whoever was like battling him 206 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: to be a top five seat. 207 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: Could have been like, hey, this guy Anthony Edwards, you 208 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: know you don't like I don't know if. 209 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: It was OPO research from any other camp, but there's 210 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: a there was a workout that he had with the 211 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors that he and has been on the 212 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: record about over the years. Even Steve Kerr has gone 213 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: on the record about that it was a bad workout 214 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: pre draft that he had because the Warriors had the 215 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: number two pick that year. That was the year, that 216 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 4: was the year they took Wivesman. Yeah, so the Warriors 217 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: had number two, they work out, and he had a 218 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: terrible workout, And so I think that's a little bit 219 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: of where this reputation came from. But as as you'll 220 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: see in the book, this was the COVID draft. Like 221 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: the draft had gotten delayed multiple times because of COVID, 222 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: which meant workouts got delayed. The whole process just got 223 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 4: you know, thrown into the future, like six months ahead 224 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: of when it would normally take place. So that whole process. 225 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: One of the chapters in the book just deals primarily 226 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: with the draft process. That really took a toll on 227 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 4: ants like physical and mental well being at the time 228 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: and that of his camp, and that contributed to that 229 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 4: workout in Golden State, which then led to this reputation 230 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: of he doesn't work hard enough. He you know, he 231 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: doesn't love the game of basketball. But really it was 232 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: a product of COVID essentially is what it boils down 233 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 4: to in the end, and just that having a major 234 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: impact on the way he liked to work out and 235 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: what he could do during that time. 236 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: It's interesting because the NFL Draft, I'm pretty sure the 237 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: COVID Draft was the one where every quarterback was it 238 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: was like Trey Lance, Justin Field, Zach Wilson. It also 239 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: was just a total bot even Trevor Lawrence has kind 240 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: of struggled so that that year kind of I guess 241 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: you could give teams a pass for not. 242 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: Believing in him. 243 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: But I am curious when you approached Edwards about the book, 244 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: like how did he take young guy? I'm sure you 245 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: know wants to craft his own narrative, but like, did 246 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: he instantly try to shut it down or tell people 247 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,479 Speaker 2: not to talk to you? 248 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 4: No, he didn't do that. I approached him, I talked 249 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 4: to some people close to him first before I actually 250 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: mentioned it to him. I got to first mention it 251 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: to him during Team USA workouts in Las Vegas. I 252 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 4: had a very very fat conversation with him about it 253 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: this summer in Las Vegas, and he basically said, essentially 254 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: go get it was his word. Now. He didn't sit 255 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: down for me with me separately for this. I've interviewed 256 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: him many times over the years in the course of 257 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: doing my job, and so I've used all those interviews, 258 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: you know, in the book obviously to represent his voice. 259 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 4: But he didn't shut it down. 260 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: You know. 261 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: He all the people that are kind of close to him, 262 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 4: you know, friends, associates, his business manager, Justin hallme, people 263 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: from back in Atlanta that he's close with, people from Georgia, 264 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: you know, people that are still very close to him. 265 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: I didn't get a no from anybody else, you know, 266 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 4: and so he didn't shut it down. He didn't, like 267 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: I said, he didn't sit down with me specifically for 268 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: this project. But he also didn't shut it down either. 269 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 4: And I think people around him are also very excited 270 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: that this is coming out and they're going to get 271 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: to see a lot of facets of his story. 272 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: That's pretty awesome. I think I've told his story on 273 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: the pod before. But I was covering high school hoops 274 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: back in the day and j R. Smith was blowing 275 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: up in New Jersey and I was covering his AAU 276 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: team a lot. They had so many Division IE players, 277 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: and I thought, like, this guy's worth a book. He 278 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: was ticketed to go to North Carolina and his family 279 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: was on board everything. 280 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: I would go to his games. It was awesome. 281 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: And then finally, as like the McDonald's All American games 282 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: start rolling around, his AA coach comes up to me. 283 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: He's like, adjacent, there's no book, it's not happening. 284 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I was just like what, like, yeah, he's 285 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: going to the NBA watch. I was like, oh, don't 286 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: report this. 287 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: And then next thing, you know, like he's on a 288 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: private jet and all this time I was like, oh damn, 289 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: and I missed out on it. 290 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: But I understand, Hey, these guys, it's Anthony Edwards's story. 291 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: You know, they don't always trust journalists, you know, because, 292 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: as you know right now, trust for journalists is kind 293 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: of low. 294 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: It's just not great. 295 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 4: It's really hard in this day and age, especially in 296 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: the sports world, and you're dealing with, you know, kind 297 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: of millennials and Gen Z athletes who as a news 298 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: as a traditional kind of newspaper beat reporter that I 299 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: am and have been for fifteen years now, you want 300 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: to try to separate yourself from the noise that they 301 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: see on their phone of social media, you know, to 302 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: to kind of basically say I'm not an Instagram meme 303 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: person or somebody who's gonna, you know, just tweet stuff 304 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: about you, like I'm here to report stories, get to 305 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: know you, get to know your story. And so I 306 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: think over the years, Ant has seen that a little bit, 307 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: and other players have seen that in my work. I 308 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: did a big story on Aunt in twenty twenty two, 309 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: which was kind of a precursor to the book, and 310 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: I did it for the paper, and I went down 311 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: to Atlanta for a weekend and basically wrote essentially a 312 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: preview of the book about his youth, and so that 313 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 4: served as kind of the basis. And so from that 314 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: I developed like relationships with him and his people that 315 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: are close to him and those that knew him growing 316 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: up that I was able to go back to when 317 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: it was time to do this book and just kind 318 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: of expand on everything that I had reported three years ago. 319 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 320 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 321 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 322 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: listen live. 323 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: Edwards has an amazing story to you know. 324 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: He had lost I believe his mom and grandma when 325 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: he was a youth and it was just like in 326 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: a quick timespan and you know, I guess he was 327 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: raised by his sister. You know, how do you think 328 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: that experience as a youth kind of shaped him as 329 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: a person. 330 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: So, yeah, there's that's definitely covered in the book. Is 331 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: about seven months apart. He lost his mom first and 332 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: then his grandma, their second, in about a seven month 333 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: span when he was thirteen years old. And you know, 334 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: that's that's the third chapter of the book is where 335 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: we get into that and it shaped him as a 336 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: person because that was the moment of his life where 337 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: it clicked in for him how much he needed to work. 338 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: And that's where this competitive drive, this insatiable appetite to 339 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: get in the gym, that it really started to take 340 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: off from that point forward. And people around him at 341 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: the time will say in the book, like, you know, 342 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: for better or for worse, that's how he processed things. 343 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: That's how he got over what happened to him. You know, 344 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: whether he knew it, whether he was conscious of it 345 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: or not, that was how he processed what happened to him. 346 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: When he was thirteen years old, he just started getting 347 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: in the gym. He was competitive, he would just want 348 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: to be in the gym all the time, working out 349 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: with his trainer and coach, Justin Holland, who's still close 350 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: with today, you know, working out with his best friend 351 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: and Nick Maddox in high school, who he's still close 352 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 4: with today. And he still keeps that same circle of 353 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: people who helped him get through that time close to 354 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: him today. It's a very tight knit circle of people 355 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: that he trusts. Not a lot of people have entered 356 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: his life since he entered the NBA. It's a lot 357 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 4: of people that knew him from back then in Georgia, 358 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: and the book will also kind of highlight some of 359 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: them as well in the role that they played and 360 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: helping him get through his adolescence and teenage years. 361 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: I've got to ask about this whole face of the 362 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: league thing. 363 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 2: It the NBA fans and media, they're desperate for an 364 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: American star. John moranc kind of went sideways. Zion Williamson's 365 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: eating his way out of the league. Europeans are dominating. 366 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: We need like an American star to be the face 367 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: of the sport. After they took down Denver, everybody started 368 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: pushing Anthony Edwards kind of struggled there against Dallas in 369 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: the series, and now he's followed it up with You know, 370 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: he's been good, but not like other worldly this season. 371 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Do you think it was too much too soon? I mean, 372 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: he's what twenty two, twenty three years three? 373 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 374 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: One thing I've learned about covering the NBA is twenty three, 375 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: even though he's in his fifth season, twenty three is 376 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: still very young in NBA years. When it comes to 377 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 4: where we expect athletes and NBA players to be peaking 378 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: and hitting the peak of their powers, we tend to 379 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: think of it more as like the late twenties, right 380 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 4: like twenty seven, twenty eight to twenty nine years old. 381 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: These tend to be the peak years of an NBA 382 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: player's performance. So at twenty three, he's still got a 383 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: lot of room to grow as a player and you know, 384 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: as as a person off the court as well. So 385 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: when you make the conference finals at twenty three, it's 386 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 4: not unexpected that you're gonna struggle, especially against Luka Doncic 387 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: who was twenty five, And in NBA years, that two 388 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 4: year difference between twenty three and twenty five is a 389 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: big difference. Having that extra two seasons under your belt 390 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: is actually I've learned a huge thing. You go back 391 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: through recent NBA history and there's not a lot of 392 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 4: players who are in their early twenties that are threatening 393 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 4: for titles. It doesn't really happen that much. It's only 394 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: when you get to that twenty seven, twenty eight years old. 395 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 4: I think you can go back and look and like 396 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: Steph Curry wins his first title at twenty seven, Lebron 397 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: was twenty seven when he won his first title. I'm 398 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 4: pretty sure I can correct me if I'm wrong on that, 399 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 4: But that's about the time that even those guys started 400 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: winning their first title. So maybe it was a little 401 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: too much too soon. But when you think about the 402 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: arc of an NBA Superstars career, he's still got plenty 403 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: of prime years ahead of him. That got twenty three 404 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: you're going to look back on and say, Wow, he 405 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: mastered the game in a way that he didn't quite 406 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: have it twenty two or twenty three. That's how That's 407 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 4: how it goes on the NBA sometimes. 408 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to wrap up with calling for a 409 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: conclusion here. This is tough, but like Luca got traded 410 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: to the Lakers and I'm my thing is okay? Over 411 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: under one and a half titles for Luca Donches with 412 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: the Lakers and a lot most people have taken the under, 413 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to be down in Luca when 414 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: it comes to Anthony Edwards. Listen, man, this it's going 415 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: to be a tall order to build a championship team 416 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. We could argue they step back trading towns, 417 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: but that's a short term view. If I had to 418 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: say over under half a title for Anthony Edwards in Minnesota, 419 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: in Minnesota being the key, where would you lean on that? 420 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: Oh? Man, that's a tough one. Normally as a beat reporter, 421 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: I don't get into the prediction business, but I'll you know, 422 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: just given the odds, I would probably still take the under. 423 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: But just because it's so uncertain and a lot of 424 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: that is out of his hands quite frankly. You know, 425 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: you need, you know, a reliable two three whatever, and 426 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: that's on the GM, that's on the right, you know, 427 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: whatever circumstance it is, right, It's just it's just so 428 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 4: hard to get to that mountaintop. And if there's a 429 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 4: dominant team that becomes dynam as stick in the league 430 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: or in the West, you know, butting your head up 431 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: against that every year could be tough, and it'd be 432 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: no discredit to you as a star or the Timberls 433 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 4: even as an organization. I just think the odds of 434 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 4: getting there are just so long to begin with that 435 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 4: I probably just take the safe play and say, under. 436 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 2: I just thought of when listening to that, and you know, 437 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: like it's out of his hands. You said, do you 438 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: think Ant is the kind of guy that would take 439 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: it in his hands and ask for a trade? 440 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: I mean, before you answer, we've seen. 441 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: Doubtless crazy things happen in the NBA, right, yeah. 442 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So this idea that like Ant is happy, sure, 443 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: great now, but I don't know. I mean, we just 444 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: saw Luka Doncicic get traded. Now, he didn't ask for 445 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: a trade that we know of, But like Jimmy Butler, 446 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving, I mean, you go down the list, anybody 447 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: who's anybody is basically asked out. I don't know what's 448 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: your sense on Anthony Edwards in Minnesota. 449 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 4: So this is what I wrote about at the time 450 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 4: of the town's trade and one of the reasons why 451 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 4: I think the wolves made the town's trade in this 452 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: era of the second Apron and cap flexibility and punitive 453 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 4: luxury tax measures and all that is I think the 454 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: way that the Timberwolves wouldever lose to Anthony Edwards. He 455 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: loves it in Minnesota. He doesn't mind being in Minnesota. 456 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: He's not going to go chasing the larger market of 457 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 4: New York or LA. That's not who he is as 458 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: a person. I firmly believe that. But the way you 459 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 4: lose Anthony Edwards is not having a winner or a 460 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: contender around him. So if you're plotting out what your 461 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: team looks like four or five years from now, when 462 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards is kind of in this same twenty six 463 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 4: twenty seven year old window that say deeron Fox was 464 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 4: in in Sacramento and asks out right, that's how you 465 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 4: lose him is if you don't have a serious contender 466 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: four or five years from now when it's time to 467 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: make these decisions. So taking us maybe a slight step 468 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: back organizationally with the towns trade, but being able to 469 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 4: have flexibility three in that three to five year window 470 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: that I think is what they're looking at, and being 471 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: able to retool a team around Anthony Edwards as he 472 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: enters that prime of his career is really what the 473 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: organization was looking at. 474 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: That's good, so I would totally agree with that. But 475 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: that's how Lebron left Cleveland. He didn't want to leave. 476 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: They just couldn't build a contender around him the first time. 477 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: Remember it was like, hey, here's Antoine Jamison and thirty 478 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: five year old check go. 479 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: Go go kick down the Super Celtics. Like okay, that's 480 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: not happening. 481 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 4: So sign yeah, yep, I was going to say, what 482 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 4: these second apron roster building measures that take place, That's 483 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 4: very much reality for teams that enter that second apron, 484 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: So it was definitely on their minds for sure. 485 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: Great stuff, Chris, and looking forward to the When does 486 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: the book come out? 487 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 4: June third is our release date. Pre Orders are available 488 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: on Amazon anywhere that you can buy books, no matter 489 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 4: what your preferred seller is. It should be up there. 490 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 4: And appreciate the support and I think people will enjoy 491 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: it on a basketball level and a non basketball level 492 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 4: as well. 493 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: Did they kind of time it thinking, oh, NBA Finals, 494 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: We were. 495 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 4: Trying to get it out, you know, kind of in 496 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: time for the postseason, not necessarily the finals, but at 497 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 4: least for this postseason run. That was the thinking. 498 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. There's always a chance, you know. 499 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: I think they got a shot. Very fun. Congrats on 500 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: the book Man and thanks for dropping by. 501 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me Jas, I really appreciate it.