1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Big game tonight feels too big for Thursday Night. You know, 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody could come out and say that 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: it's a game that's too big for Thursday night Seahawks. Yes, 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: you just did. I know. But I'm I'm just flowing. 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing a flow, Dan, three to two. Gangs all 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: here ready, Rams at the Seahawks. It's a game that's 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: too big for Thursday night. Rams are getting one and 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: a half over under is forty two and a half 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: for entertainment purposes only? 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, you know these standalone games, Dan, is this 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: gonna be? Is this gonna be a good night or 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: a bad night for Sam Darnold reception. 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Wines, Speaking of which, the Seahawks look dangerous. They look 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: like a team built to play in Januyuary, maybe February. 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: You got playmakers, you got a really good defense. The 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: question mark is Sam Darnol. Now, his resurgence has been 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: a great story. Now he had the resurgence with the Vikings, 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: He's played well with Seattle, and he is a franchise quarterback. 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: But you got gaudy numbers last season, four thousand yards 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: thirty five touchdowns. Vikings went fourteen and three, but then 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: his biggest moments brought out his worst football. He's ozeroed 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: three in big games, high stakes games. You got week 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: eighteen against Detroit the divisional title on the line, nine points, 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: last year's wild card, same story, and then earlier this 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: year against the Rams, four interceptions in a twenty one 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: nineteen loss. So Sam is a franchise quarterback. But you 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: know the problem is lights get bright and then all 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: of a sudden, personalities change. And this is a regular 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: season game. I expect Sam Darnold to play well. It's 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: the postseason that that's where you have the question marks here, 33 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: and Sam does have those question marks attached to him, 34 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: and you want to be a you know, keep in mind, 35 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers quarterback rating prior to the last five minutes 36 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: of the game was better than Sam Donald's in that 37 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: Colt's narrow loss to Seattle that shouldn't happen at home. Now, 38 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: the Colts defense did play really well to keep them 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 2: in this game. But if you're Seattle, the defense did 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: the job, but you got to have the offense doing 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: you know, few more touchdowns in there. That was what 42 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: was I think lost in that game. Yeah, Philip Rivers played, Okay, 43 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, that offense didn't do much, and I think 44 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: that's where you start to go, Okay, are you ready 45 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: to go in these big moments? And you expect this 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: to be a very tight game like the first game was, 47 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: and they could have won the game even with four 48 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: interceptions by Sam Darnold the last time these two teams met, 49 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: but that'll be coming up tonight as the Rams are 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: one and a half point underdogs over under his forty 51 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: two and a half to a tongue of iloa benched, 52 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: but far more than that, he was deactivated. So he's 53 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: the third, he's the emergency quarterback. You're going to have 54 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: Quinn Ewers and you're going to have Zach Wilson in there. 55 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: Here's the Dolphins head coach on Mike McDaniel talking about 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: what went wrong for Tua this season. 57 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 4: Playing quarterback and being a starting quarterback and then being 58 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback. These are all things that are very complex. 59 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 4: I think this is a player that his MO had 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: been growth and you know, just exceptional learner and he's 61 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: always evolving. You know, there's compounding variables that he can't 62 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: just pinpoint one or two things. I still believe that 63 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: his growth can continue, but you know, I couldn't responsibly 64 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: play this next game when I thought what the team 65 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: needed was available. 66 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: Oh boy, there's a lot to decipher there, because it 67 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: felt like Mike McDaniel kept his job this season after 68 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: they fired their GM because of his relationship and development 69 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: of Tua. Now he's saying that, in fairness to the team, 70 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to bench and he's going to be my 71 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: third string quarterback and you owe him a lot of money. 72 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're willing to admit that maybe 73 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: this is a Russell Wilson Denver Bronco type situation, and 74 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: it feels like yesterday that's sort of what they did. 75 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: But I mean russ leaving Seattle to go to Denver, 76 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: he's probably it was ten years older than Tua to it. 77 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: You know, you still see him when he's got Tyreek 78 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: Hill and Jayalen Wattall and you go and they got 79 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 2: a really good running game. He was just the weak link. 80 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: And I don't think his arm is threatening. It's you know, 81 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: it's threatening. If I throw it to Tyreek Hill, I 82 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: throw at seven yards and he takes it seventy and 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: you get credit for a seventy seven yard touchdown. You 84 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: got to throw out to the numbers. I mean, this 85 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: is what Philip Rivers is going to find out again 86 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: this week against the Niners, is hey, you can have 87 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: over the middle. I mean, we're going to force you 88 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: to throw out to the numbers. You're not going to 89 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: get over the middle. We're going to force you out 90 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: to the numbers. That's where these quarterbacks make their living. 91 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: Can you throw to the numbers? And I don't think 92 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: Tua can do that? Do that and be threatening. He 93 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: can throw it over the middle, dink and dunk, those 94 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: kinds of things, But can you throw to the numbers. 95 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: That's what you want to see. If you're a defensive back, 96 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: they're going to be like Philip Rivers, let me see 97 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 2: if you can throw that pass out there in the flats, 98 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: because I don't think you can. And two of the 99 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: same way. Now, it's not all on him, but that's 100 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: where you start when you're spending fifty million dollars on somebody. 101 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill is gone. Now you start to look at 102 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: what is the future. And they're going to find out 103 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: if quin Ewers can play. We already know sort of 104 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 2: what Zach Wilson is, but let's see what Quinn Eewers does. 105 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: Maybe it gives the team a little bit of a spark. 106 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: You could use it, and you're facing a team that 107 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 2: could use his spark too, the Cincinnati Bengals. Because man, 108 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, somebody's got to buy him an ice cream 109 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: cone or something, because he seems miserable and he yesterday 110 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: was asked about continuing to play football. 111 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 5: I like play football for the same reasons that I 112 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 5: wanted to push to comeback from injury, some reasons I 113 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 5: want to play. This week, it feels like everything everybody's 114 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: trying to do everything in their power to make me 115 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 5: not play football, and I feel like I'm fighting it, 116 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 5: like fighting everybody else. 117 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to play ball. 118 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 6: That's all I want to do. 119 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 7: Is there any world in your mind where you're not 120 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 7: the quarterback of the Bengals next year. 121 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: I can't see that. 122 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 7: No, you ever both thought about the possibility of not 123 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 7: being the quarterback here during your career, or you think 124 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 7: about a lot of things. 125 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean he's got to say those things, but 126 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: still I want to see it on the field. I 127 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: mean he can he can say something in a press conference, 128 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: he can be despondent, he can say something after a loss. 129 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: You got embarrassed by the Ravens. That's that's what I 130 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: want to say, Like, why are you bad on offense? 131 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: You're back, you vouch for your receivers, they got paid, 132 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: you got shut out. That's what's kind of alarming here. Yeah, Okay, 133 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm twenty nine. I'm not having fun of Eddie. Injuries 134 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: were not good. Okay. You know he fought back after 135 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: the toe injury, took off the cast himself. I mean, 136 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: he wanted to play and then all of a sudden, 137 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: maybe we just caught him at the wrong time. You know, 138 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: you start to think I'm twenty nine. You know, Mahomes 139 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: is out, Buffalo's not that good, Pittsburgh's not that good. 140 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: Boltemore's not that good. Yeah, Denver, but they're you know, 141 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: inexperienced Chargers. Okay, you have our chance. But that's why 142 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: when people say, oh, they'll get back, tell them to 143 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: be quiet, because they're all these sports are littered with. Well, 144 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: don't get back. The Bengals aren't going back to the 145 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, not anytime soon. And maybe not in Joe 146 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: Burrow's career, And you wonder does he want to stay 147 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati even though they gave him total autonomy. It 148 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: felt like, hey, I want Trey Hendrickson and resigned, Okay, 149 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: I want t Higgins all right, Jamar is going to 150 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: get his country. Okay, out all those things done, check 151 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: check check chen and then you get blown out by 152 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: the Ravens at home, a team you beat Thanksgiving Night. 153 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: That's the bigger picture is what is wrong with Cincinnati 154 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: because they should still be at least threatening the betting 155 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: line in that game against Miami, the Bengals, they are 156 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 2: favored by four and a half. In Miami, it was 157 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: two and a half. So maybe maybe Joe's in a 158 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: better mood. Yeah, it sounds like the biggest problem in 159 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: Cincinnati is the front office. Then if Joe Burrow is 160 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: the one making all the decisions, fire all those people, 161 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: get rid of the GM, he clearly doesn't do anything. 162 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is the one that's like, no, I said, son, 163 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. Yeah. 164 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: Pauling Joe Burrow feels like a guy who was a 165 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: billionaire and now loses most of his money and has 166 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: to live like a normal life. He went from Heisman, 167 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: what sixty touchdowns at LSU, number one pick was it? 168 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: His second year in Cincinnati. He makes a super Bowl 169 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: and comes a block away from winning it. He would 170 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: had a three or four year run where he was 171 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: dubbed the next great quarterback. And now he's living like 172 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: a civilian or getting hurt, getting banged up, losing games. 173 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: He's not used to this. But I just don't understand. 174 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: He's healthy. You got your now Higgins has been out 175 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 2: with the concussion. But you know, I mean, Joe was 176 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: healthy ish. It's just, man, you start to hear and 177 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 2: it just felt like it was a little bit more. 178 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: I was surprised with the honesty with when you know, 179 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: when he had that press conference a couple of weeks ago. 180 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: But then I thought, okay, you know, you have a 181 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: bad day and all right, play play the season out, 182 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: let's see. And then all of a sudden, you play 183 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: against the raven This is a game you gotta win. 184 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: And I think those two interceptions against Buffalo that changed 185 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: that game, changed the Bengals any hopes of trying to 186 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. And it just felt like Joe took 187 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: that so personally they were a better team than Buffalo. 188 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, you got the same record as the Saints. Yeah, 189 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 8: that's not the plan. 190 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: I don't have to say it. 191 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 8: If you're your Joe Burrow, no offense in New Orleans, but 192 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 8: you're the if you're Joe Burrow, and that's how we're 193 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 8: playing that. 194 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: Well, hell no. 195 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: Do you think the Saints say, hey, man, we got 196 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: the same record as the Bengals as opposed to the Bengals. Man, 197 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: we have the same record as the same. 198 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 8: Possible pole question best four and ten team this season 199 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 8: Commander's Bengals Saints other question mark m. 200 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, based on the Hopometer, which we coined in twenty 201 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: twenty three, the Saints are actually quite hopeful. They may 202 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: have found their quarterback on the cheap the hopometer. 203 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so two was benched and deactivated, and uh so, 204 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: Quinn Yewers come on down. No banner for the Knicks. 205 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: I still want to wait and see on this the commissioner. 206 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: You know, when we had Reggie Miller on yesterday and 207 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: I said, rech Lakers put up a banner like they 208 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: don't put up a cup banner. He said, why not? 209 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: I said, do you think the commissioner encouraged them to 210 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: put up a banner once again, if if we're going 211 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: to buy into it, we have to believe the players 212 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: are buying into it like it means something. Now it 213 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything to us. I think it meant something 214 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: to the Spurs to play in a big game and be, 215 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, a focal point, and they played really well. 216 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: But putting up a banner. The Knicks should be in 217 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: the NBA finals this year, that's how good they are. 218 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised they won, you know, the banner or 219 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: the cup? And now do you have a banner? I 220 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: put the banner at my practice facility. You know, they 221 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: want to they want to have a like a kind 222 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: of ceremony on Friday for the fans to be like, 223 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if Ben Stiller and Spike Lee or 224 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: Timothy Chaloney are gonna be going crazy like, yes, that's 225 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: the that's the first of another banner that's coming in here. Yes, Todd. 226 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 9: But if the Knicks suddenly reversed course and they say, 227 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 9: you know, come to think of it, we will put 228 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 9: it up. It's gonna be blatant that the NBA forced it, 229 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 9: or well, the Knicks even care, and will Adam Silver 230 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 9: even care? The bottom line is I got them to 231 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 9: put the banner up. I don't even if they know 232 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 9: that I forced the team to do it. That's my 233 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 9: question to you is, well, does Adam Silver care if 234 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 9: he forces them to do it and that's the reason 235 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 9: the banner's up there. 236 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you get through one day of you know, 237 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: bad press and then the banner stays up there. But you, 238 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you're trying to make something happen and you're 239 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: telling us, man, you're crazy to not buy into the cup, Like, no, hey, 240 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: look at what we did to the floors. Don't they 241 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 2: look cool? Yeah, it's still just a basketball game in December. 242 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, Martha, but you acting like the Knicks of the 243 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 9: Lakers where they have tons of championship banners. The Knicks 244 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 9: have division title banners up at the garden, so they 245 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 9: can't be like, oh, you know what, we only celebrate 246 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 9: the big championship one. You don't have two banners. You 247 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 9: have a bunch of division title banners up there. Yeah, 248 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 9: there's plenty of room up there, tons. Yeah, they got 249 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 9: Harry Styles and Billy Joel and Fish banners up there too. 250 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: What's Harry Styles in there for selling out, Like I 251 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: think so shows or something more than that. 252 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 9: He's about like thirteen days in a row or something. 253 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: Wait, you get a banner? 254 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 9: Yes, Billy Joel has a banner. 255 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: Well, Billy Joel deserves one. 256 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 9: Fish has a banner, of course, and Harry Styles has 257 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 9: a banner. Fish, oh Fish, New Year's Eve at the Garden. 258 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 9: That is true, every single every single okay, Okay, how 259 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 9: many musicians? How many bands have banners? 260 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: Oh? 261 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: No in sports arenas? 262 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 9: Oh that question worth? 263 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 6: Yes? 264 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Yes? Does Coldplay get a banner after the Coldplay cam 265 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: caught that couple? 266 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 6: Oh? 267 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what what constitutes we're going to 268 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: have a banner up there? 269 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: Maybe like where you play years and years or a 270 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: long run at a certain venue. 271 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know how many other bands have banners? 272 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 8: Yes, he doing fifteen nights at the Garden for Harry Styles. 273 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 8: That's a hell of a run. 274 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: Okay. But is that banner worthy? I think it is, 275 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: and I think it is. What other places? Well, it's 276 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: the Garden too, Yes, Mark. 277 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 9: Jay Z has a banner up in Barkley Center. 278 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: Wow, nobody goes there so they wouldn't see it. 279 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 9: I think he sold it out. He opened up Barkley 280 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 9: Center and he got a banner. He sold out maybe 281 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 9: the first five. 282 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 8: Wasn't he a part time owner of the j J 283 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 8: Z fat that's kind of weak, like Dan, like, you're 284 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 8: gonna hang a banner and here if you look, I 285 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 8: don't know when he shows, Dan Patrick did here. 286 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, yeah, good point. Okay, Then over 287 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: the Emmy once again. It's a game too big for 288 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: Thursday night. It's the Rams and the Seahawks. That's how 289 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: we got started today, Todd. 290 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 6: We did. 291 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 9: And I jumped in on you. 292 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. Second, I was a little rude. 293 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: I should have wasn't even a good line. Just raise 294 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: your hand, That's what I should have done. 295 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 9: Let's you through your opening thing. 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Uh, who would you most have 318 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 8: wanted to kick it with? 319 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: Kick it? Yes? 320 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 8: Who would you most have wanted to kick it with? 321 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 8: Aka Party, led Zeppelin in the seventies, Motley Crue in 322 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 8: the eighties, or Michael Irvin in the nineties. 323 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: Wow? 324 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: The fair comparison. 325 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: Wow, I would say, I have to look at what 326 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: are the chances I could die like high with all 327 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: of them and then work my way back. I don't 328 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: know how big a partiers led Zeppelin was. I know 329 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: John Bonham, the drummer was, but I don't know if 330 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: paigeyet House Are you kidding me? 331 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 8: I like some of the most notorious party yers of 332 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 8: all time. 333 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of assumed I didn't. Wasn't there for. 334 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: Les Well Motley Crue. You know. I I've talked to 335 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: somebody who actually stayed with them for a night. It 336 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: took him a week to recover, but he did. He 337 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: partied with them. Uh, they seemed to They didn't get 338 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: cheated Mike. Mike did well. Mike had fun in the 339 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: White House and wherever else. I don't think he discriminated. 340 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: But do you put the stones in there? 341 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: Stop me? 342 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: Oh when they were in the South of France doing 343 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: Exile on Main Street that they had to wake up 344 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: members of the band to play on an album. 345 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 8: It doesn't sound like fun to me. Gotta admit South 346 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 8: of France sounds awesome. A bunch of dudes strung out 347 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 8: trying to make a record, though not it. Yeah, well, 348 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 8: Heroin will do that. Well. Wed sours the party quickly. 349 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 8: Gota admit. 350 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: Heroin always wins. You know, Heroin's undefeated. I would probably 351 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: want to party with Zeppelin just because it's Zeppelin, you know, 352 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: one of my favorite bands of all time. 353 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, I was gonna throw guns and roses in there, 354 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: but I thought I want to go decade. 355 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: By then they're guns and posers. 356 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: Oh really, Oh, I think they got after it. 357 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, they seemed like they were like, oh, 358 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: we gotta have Jack Daniels here backstage because Keith Richards did. 359 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeh see, I'm going with the Playmaker. I want to 360 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: hang with Michael. 361 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, pre social media nineties was kind of my era. 362 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 6: So I. 363 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 8: Would have enjoyed hanging with the Playmaker. 364 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: All right. I would probably say Zeppelin just to say 365 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: that I partied with Zeppelin. 366 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 9: Yes, mart Yeah, I'm going with the Playmaker too. He 367 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 9: did all that and won Super Bowl. That wasn't stopping him, 368 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 9: and by all accounts, he was the leader of the Cowboys. 369 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'd say t Roy was. 370 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 9: He might have just been the quarterback, yeah, but he was. 371 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: Still he was. He was the guy who didn't go out. 372 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: I mean, just the fact that he was. Sandra Bullock 373 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: I think wanted to go out with him. I don't 374 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: know if Troy ever talked about I think I brought 375 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: it up to him. I think he brushed it off quickly. 376 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, yeah, I think you know, you're 377 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: the quarterback of the Cowboys. I mean that fixes everything. 378 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: Normally yes, yes, Mart. 379 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 9: But who's the rest of the cowboys following though? What 380 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 9: do you mean they were going to Mikero Order's house. 381 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 9: They weren't hanging out with t Roy. 382 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 6: No. 383 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: I think t Roy was probably just doing damage by himself. No, 384 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: he was single and mangling. But you know Sandra Bullock 385 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: in the nineties, Sandra Bullock from Speed. All of a sudden, 386 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: t Roy, he's eluding the rush apparently. 387 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 388 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: Uh, those were the days. You can't get away with 389 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: that stuff now, all right, eight seven seven to three 390 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 2: d P show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handled 391 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: TP show. A lot of college football coming up this weekend. 392 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: Let me give you a let me give you the menu. 393 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: So we got college football. You got Thursday night football. 394 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: But then you have the U Xbox Bowl Missouri State 395 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 2: and Arkansas State, the Myrtle Beach Bowl, Kennesas State and 396 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: Western Michigan, the Gas Barrello Bowl Memphis against NC State. 397 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: You have Alabama, Oklahoma, Miami, Texas A and m Tulane, Ole, 398 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: miss James Madison and Oregon. It's a lot of football 399 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: that's just the college slate. And then you know the 400 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: game's uh NFL games you got tonight and then you're 401 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: gonna have a game on Saturday night as well. 402 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 9: Yes, Marvin, do you know the term yolo DP? 403 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 404 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 9: You only live once. Yeah, Michael Irvin did not get 405 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 9: cheated the Hurricanes in the eighties at Miami and then 406 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 9: the nineties Cowboys. 407 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: I don't know what was happening at the U. 408 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 9: Come on, now, there was an Uncle Luke. 409 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: They were Luther Campbell, that's right, and Luke was was 410 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: Luther was paying the players back then properly. Yeah, but 411 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: that's where you you know, they'll have documentaries on the 412 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: U and then they'll ask, you know, Luther Campbell, were 413 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: you paying those players? And then he just had this 414 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: big smile on his face. But he was paying for 415 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: big hits, big plays, which okay, I mean now everything 416 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: looks harmless. You know, when you hear the story about 417 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: SMU and what they were doing, Like nowadays that would 418 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: be like, what's wrong. You guys aren't spending enough money, 419 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: You're not giving way enough cars. But back then it's like, 420 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: oh my god, Eric Dickerson, he got a Transam gold. 421 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: I think Dickerson's taking that to his grave. I don't 422 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: think he's ever acknowledged that he got paid, but he 423 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: was getting paid by two schools I think at the 424 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: same time. 425 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: Right, So the story came out when Dickerson was the 426 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: best high school running back. There's a picture of him 427 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: in his driveway with a gold trans Am and the 428 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 3: story is A and M sent it over and they 429 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: thought they had it, and then I guess SMU matched, 430 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 3: yeah or. 431 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: Whatever, they matched in a different way and the car. 432 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: Yes, he got the car. 433 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 9: Who's turn a minute. 434 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: You can't say, hey, give us that car back that 435 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: we gave to you illegally. But you know what's happening now. 436 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: They're talking to somebody yesterday and they said, you know 437 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: these collectives because there's a finite amount of money that 438 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: schools can be paying, you know, their athletes, the collectives. Now, 439 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 2: the number that was given to me is you have 440 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: to have about forty million dollars total to be able 441 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: to build or maintain a championship caliber roster. Around forty million. 442 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: And what's happening is you have aunts, uncles, friends, distant relatives. 443 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: They're getting money. So the player is going to get 444 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 2: that money, but it goes through a third party there. 445 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 2: And I told you about the high school player. I 446 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: don't know where he signed. I told you there were 447 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: two schools that were bidding for him. He was a 448 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: high school senior and he was His price was three 449 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: million dollars, but it was three million total. But they 450 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: were signing they're signing them in high school. They're signing 451 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: them as juniors, like they're trying to get as early 452 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: as possible. And all of a sudden, you're signed up 453 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: and now you're going to our university unless you say 454 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm giving the money back. But this this kid signed 455 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: a three million dollar contract with a school, a big 456 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: time school. But yeah, there, the NCUBA does not exist anymore. 457 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: It does not. I was told that yesterday. The nc DOUBLEA, 458 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 2: as you know, it does not exist. And that might 459 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: be a good thing. Like, let's just start over. Figure 460 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: out what do you want to do. How do you 461 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: want to do it. You want to have professional college teams, 462 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: professional format formula blueprint, whatever it is. If you want 463 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: to have the nc DOUBA handle all of this secondary sports, great, 464 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: but let's not kid anybody. It's business. It's big business, 465 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: and everybody wants theirs. Yeah, Pauline, just to go. 466 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: Back to the Eric Dickerson recruiting Texas A and M 467 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: uh trans am story trans Am A and M. Eric 468 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: Dickerson was talking to his uncles that he loved the transam. 469 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 3: We saw the uncles. This is a story in Sports 470 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 3: Illustrated that from three years ago. Eric Dickerson ended up 471 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: talking to a booster for A and M and was 472 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 3: asked about it, and the butcher goes, we can make 473 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 3: that happen, and Eric said, they contacted his grandmother, put 474 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: his grandmother on the title, and agreed to reimburse the grandmother. 475 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: So I wasn't ready to see any red flags. That's 476 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: how it's done by pros. Put Grahama on the on 477 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: the title. 478 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but SMU got busted, Yes, because. 479 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 3: What they did was they were sending players money in 480 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: envelopes with the return address of the s Musbic department. 481 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: You watched watch the documentary. 482 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: At least with Tennessee when they were giving their players money, 483 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: you know, was in a fast food bag alleged. Yeah, yes, 484 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: some Tennessee people still frosty that I had that story 485 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: turned out to be true. Let's see Joey and fort Wayne. 486 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: Good morning, Joey, what's on your mind? 487 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 6: Hey? 488 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 12: I was the first time caller. I was wondering what 489 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 12: you saw of Notre Dame. I know, in the early 490 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 12: sixties they said they would go on the seat they 491 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 12: did not participate in the playoffs or if there was 492 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 12: a playoff. But nowadays, if they went under seated next 493 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 12: year and just stayed. 494 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 6: Independent, so. 495 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: We lost you there. If they go undefeated next year, 496 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: they're in the playoffs. Matt in Ohio, Hi, Matt, Hey, guys, 497 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: how are you today? 498 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Good? 499 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 2: Good good? 500 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 7: I just wanted to know in a couple more center 501 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 7: sorry catch phrases from back in the day, the late 502 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 7: great Stuart Scott Cooler on the other side of the pillow, 503 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 7: and I made Butcher. 504 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: This was the rich Eisen that did He's on this horse. 505 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: It's a tiny horse. 506 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 7: You can't see it. 507 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: I never I haven't heard that. It sounds like something 508 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: Kenny Maine would say. But yeah. Everybody then had to 509 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: have a catchphrase. It felt like if you were coming 510 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: to sports center, Hey, and I've got a catchphrase, like 511 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: all of a sudden that allowed you that you know, 512 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: that's the password to get in. You got a catchphrase, yes, 513 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: I do, all right, come on in Kendall in Houston, Hey, Kendall. 514 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 13: But so I'm not a big music guy, but all 515 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 13: my friends are, so I kind of just tagged along 516 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 13: through the years. And I bet you from amazing concerts. 517 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 13: One of the best ones with Eddie vedder By himself 518 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 13: at a theater in Houston playing acoustic guitar at the 519 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 13: entire time, nobody else but him for like an hour 520 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 13: and a half. 521 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Didn't he do a 522 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: soundtrack for a Sean Penn movie and I don't know 523 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: what kind of good tar he played. Yeah, PAULI Into. 524 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: The Wild was the name of the movie. Yeah, Sean 525 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: Penn directed. 526 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: Then he did the soundtrack, which was awesome sounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 527 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: I mean you hear that voice, you know that that 528 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: is there's certain voices where you hear and you go, 529 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: oh okay, I knew who that is. Scott and Virginia. Hi, Scott, 530 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? 531 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 6: Hey? 532 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: Thanks for calling me back. 533 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 14: I appreciate it. Yeah, I need to piggyback on Matt. 534 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 14: It's not what I called about. But I've seen Pearl 535 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 14: Zam once. It was one of the best concerts I've 536 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 14: ever seen. So if you get a chance, take it. 537 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 14: But I called because I was really an ameerw's fact 538 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 14: that you were talking about catchphrases. 539 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 6: And I was. 540 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 14: Telling Tyler that when I was a kid, I don't know, twelve, thirteen, 541 00:28:53,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 14: fourteen years old at Memorial Stadium in Baltimore used to 542 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 14: take me and my brother to the Orioles game whenever 543 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 14: the Yankees were in town, and because my favorite player 544 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 14: was Don Maddingly, and I was one of those baseball 545 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 14: card nerds standing outside the bus waiting for the players 546 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 14: to come off. And you were there, and I asked 547 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 14: you if you would say, excuse me, Don Maddingly gone, 548 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 14: and you did it, and I've remembered it forever. 549 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember it's Scott, but I'm going to 550 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: take your word for it. I was there at Memorial 551 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: Stadium for the last game that the Orioles played there 552 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: before they went to Camden, and I remember I was 553 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: doing a report on that that all those great Oriole teams, 554 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: Great Baseball Town, Great Baseball Town. 555 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 556 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 557 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio search FSR to listen live. 558 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: He's the playmaker Hall of Famer Michael Irvin they like 559 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: to call him IRV, and beginning at eleven am Eastern, 560 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: Mike will be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas Game Day, 561 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: leading into the Cowboys Commanders one Eastern, followed by the 562 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: Lions Vikings at four thirty Eastern. Also, Mike appears on 563 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: the podcast It Is What It Is twice a week. 564 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: Good to See Again, Playmaker, How are you e? 565 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 6: And p D? 566 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: P D? 567 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 6: You know your bad man? Will you get nod by 568 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 6: two levels? D? Yeah? P DP? What's up man? Brother? 569 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 6: How you doing? 570 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: Everything's good? Everything's good. We were talking about the Cowboys 571 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: in the nineties and that Sandra Bullock. Did she date 572 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: Troy Aikman. 573 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 6: You know, Troy Aikman dated a lot of superstars. Everybody 574 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 6: now think these Powell couple things are something fresher and new. 575 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 6: You know, these new kids, they think they come up 576 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 6: with all the great ideas. But Roy was doing all 577 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 6: of that. I mean, I mean all of them, you 578 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. Somehow, some way, Well, I guess 579 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: that hotel incident helped me out a lot. I got that, 580 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 6: I got you know, I got Chad with being the 581 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 6: Roman thing and all of that, but Troy had all 582 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 6: the baddest top things out there. So so yeah, that's 583 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 6: been out there for a while. 584 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: But he was though. You know, Troy was under the radar. 585 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: You were a radar. You were the radar. 586 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 6: It was so funny. Right when Doctor Minary was coming out, 587 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 6: we were doing the premiere. It was Emmy and Jenery, 588 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 6: all of us was at the premiere in l A. 589 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 6: And we were going through the red carpet. I leaned 590 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 6: over the I said, hey, I said, when you think 591 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 6: about it, you Troy, you guys were quiet boys. Jerry 592 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 6: gets final say on the documentary. So I guess in 593 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 6: this whole documentary, I have to beat a bag. It 594 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 6: looked at me, he said, well it kind of. I said, yeah. 595 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 6: So yeah, you're you're right, all this go. 596 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: You're right, But you look back that you got caught. 597 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: Was that a good thing that you got caught? 598 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 6: No real criminal wall ever say that. 599 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: Okay, no, no, no, I'm still a row. 600 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 6: So it was a good thing. I guess that since 601 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 6: we were here, you know what I mean, It's all good, buddy, 602 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 6: it's all good. 603 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: Imagine if you got drafted by Cleveland or Green Bay, 604 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 2: you couldn't have gotten in trouble there. 605 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 6: I won't imagine that. That's why I made sure I 606 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 6: control my draft by graduating as a junior. Remember now, 607 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 6: back then, if you wanted to go to league, go 608 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 6: to the league early, you had to graduate. So I 609 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 6: graduated as a junior and decided to go. So any 610 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 6: team that would have drafted me that I didn't want 611 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 6: to play for, I would have just dropped the class 612 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 6: and gone back to school and they would have lost 613 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 6: their draft pick. I designated Dallas lay in New York. 614 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 6: So I was going to end up where I wanted 615 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 6: to be and not in any of those places. 616 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: Help me understand if you're Justin Jefferson and you're not 617 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: getting the ball like he once were getting, and you've 618 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: gone through what three or four five different quarterbacks here, 619 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: and you still don't know if you have your quarterback 620 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: in JJ McCarthy. Can you see a scenario where all 621 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Justin Jefferson's like, get me out of here. 622 00:33:54,040 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 6: Well, Minnesota is Justin Jefferson's place, and I think they've 623 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 6: done a good job of letting everybody know that. And 624 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 6: I think Justin Jefferson, I love, Justin Jefferson is a great, 625 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 6: great dude. I consider him a great friend. I get 626 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 6: to talk with him every now and then, and his 627 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 6: brother and all of them. I always tell his brother, 628 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: make sure you're watching over him so he doesn't have 629 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 6: any Mike Werban moments out here. You know what I'm saying. 630 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 6: But the thing is, man then, he's such a good dude. 631 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 6: He's such a competitor. Justin Justson when he was in 632 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 6: high school, him and Jamar Chase, my old coach, Jerry 633 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 6: Sullivan called me then he said, Michael. I thought, because 634 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 6: you know, he said, Michael, I finally found a guy 635 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 6: that's as competitive as you. I was like, who you're 636 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 6: talking about? And he was talking about Justin Jefferson then. 637 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 6: So you know, no matter what quarterback he's had, he's 638 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 6: turned him into purity pretty good quarterbacks. And I think 639 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 6: he'll get JJ McCarthy there. And I think right now 640 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 6: he's taken a page from Terry McClain. Remember how Terry 641 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 6: McLaurin started when Jaydon Daniels got there and he wasn't 642 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 6: getting any passes, but he handled it right, and when 643 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 6: Jaydon Dames got around later on that season, they really 644 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 6: turned up. So I'm expecting that to happen because he's 645 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 6: that kind of receiver. 646 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: What is Joe Burrow telling us without maybe really telling us? 647 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 6: And it's funny how history somehow finds a way to 648 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 6: repeat hisself here again in Cincinnati. This is the cost 649 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 6: of parmer situation. Is Joe trying to say, man, it's 650 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 6: just a right, this ain't working, or or you know, 651 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 6: is he's talking about possibly retiring earlier. I don't think. 652 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 6: I don't think he's talking about walking away from the game. 653 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 6: I think he loves the game way too much. So 654 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 6: when I'm looking at it, I look at this, think 655 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 6: about this as a shout to the Bengals. Man, we 656 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 6: mess around every year, we put this defense. You didn't 657 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 6: even want to pay the top defensive player that you had, 658 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 6: you didn't want to pay the draft the guy acted 659 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 6: on defense in the early rounds. And you have me 660 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: over here going up, going through it. So, yeah, you know, 661 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 6: it's a crypti message. But I don't think. I don't 662 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 6: think he's going anywhere. I think he's just trying to 663 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 6: light a fire up under the organization. And I think 664 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 6: it's a lot of frustration with the injuries, you know, 665 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 6: and up and down and then and then you know, 666 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 6: starting out slow and then trying to finish fast and 667 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 6: and all of that stuff. It does get frustrating if 668 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 6: you can't get it like you want it. 669 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: On the football field, give the Cowboys season so far 670 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: a grade. 671 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 6: There is no grade to give outside a failure grade. 672 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 6: The standard, DAN is the standard. That's exactly I was 673 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 6: last week. I was at at Saint Thomas Aquinas High School. 674 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 6: We won our seven straight state championship. Coach Roger Harriet, 675 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 6: Uh and Twan Russell down there at the AD and 676 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 6: that's the one thing we always talk about that Saint Thomas' 677 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 6: greatest high school in the world. The standard is the standard. 678 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 6: I don't want to hear how how many records you 679 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 6: broke this year. I don't want to hear what you 680 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 6: did in statistics. I want to hear wins and losses 681 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 6: and are you in the playoffs with a chance to 682 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 6: win a ring and they are not. That's a falling grade. 683 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 2: There's some things to build on though, right you. 684 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 6: Got you found other assets, you know, Uh, you found 685 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 6: the George Pickens. I like what you've done with the 686 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 6: interior defensive line. But still dand those are ornaments on 687 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 6: the tree that's not the Christmas tree. Just tender is 688 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 6: just tender, and you want to make sure that you're 689 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 6: getting in the playoffs. And here here's the sad part. 690 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 6: It's not that you don't have enough talent right now. Yeah, 691 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 6: you had enough talent on this offense to put up 692 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 6: thirty points a game, forty points a game, and for 693 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: a while you were added to forty points at home. 694 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 6: Why with the kind of talent you have on that 695 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 6: offense did that dissipate? So, yeah, you got to get 696 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 6: in the playoffs. That's just what it is. 697 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: Talking to Michael Irvin. Beginning at eleven am Eastern, Mike 698 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: will be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas Game Day that 699 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 2: leads into the Cowboys Commanders and that's at one Eastern, 700 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: followed by the Lions and the Vikings. Also, Mike is 701 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: on the podcast It Is What It Is twice a week. 702 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: If you're a Kansas City Chief fan, what are what 703 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: are you expecting next year? 704 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 6: And it's interesting because you know, it's so sad to 705 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 6: see the greatest offensive player in this league and one of, 706 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 6: if not the greatest defensive player industry goes down on 707 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 6: the same Sunday and both with ACLS. But then I 708 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 6: tried it because you know, I had that injury and 709 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 6: that I try to look on the bright side of 710 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 6: what's going on and with with with Canvas City, and 711 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 6: I thought this when I saw it, I said only 712 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 6: that it was so sad. I mean, I hate seeing 713 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 6: it's such a great dude and great ambassador for the league. 714 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 6: But on the other side, on the other side, once 715 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 6: you realize and understand now he's hurt, you start saying 716 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 6: with of me because you got to try to look 717 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 6: at something something good in this and think about this 718 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 6: Dan this way. Even though it's unfortunate, he still gets 719 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 6: to hold on to the mystique of being that guy. 720 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 6: So so now you know they were making they were 721 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 6: driving and have a chance of winning that game, and 722 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 6: and and of course he went that and your boy, 723 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 6: uh mins, you get in and and and throw that interception. 724 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 6: But but so so now in their minds and in 725 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 6: the of Kansas City, they can still say, well, we 726 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 6: only lost that game and didn't make the playoffs because 727 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 6: we lost our Superman, you know, and the mystique of 728 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 6: that Superman can still be in play next year had 729 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 6: he gone down with the ship. I don't know, man, 730 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 6: that had to be a whole different thing because most 731 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 6: of those guys probably always think, no matter how bad 732 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 6: the game is, as long as we got fifteen, we 733 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 6: got a chance to win, you know. And today and 734 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 6: this year, that didn't happen. So I believe Kansas City 735 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 6: now has to start retooling all the way around, build 736 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 6: around Patrick Mahomes. But you have to retool for so 737 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 6: long then they kept taking away talent, taking away talent, 738 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 6: saying we're gonna throw anything in there that Patrick Mahomes 739 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 6: will get it done. And he did. But at some 740 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 6: point the weight got a little too heavy and it 741 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 6: actually broke Patrick mahone. So now they have to start 742 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 6: taking some of that weight off by putting better talent around. 743 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 2: Would you take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman as your quarterback? 744 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 6: No? No, I won't take Patrick Mahomes over Troy Aikman. 745 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 6: I won't take nobody over Troy Aightman, include mom, dad, sister, brother, 746 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 6: nis in my family. 747 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 2: Tom Brady, Okay, I'm just curious that's that that's the 748 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: that was the right answer there, because you know how 749 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 2: Troy is really sensitive and if you heard about this, 750 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: he'd start crying. You don't want that to happen, Mike. 751 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 6: I don't know Roy. I've never seen Roy real, you 752 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. But then it was so fun. 753 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 6: I wish I still had him here. I had all 754 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 6: my rings up here yesterday and I was messing around 755 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 6: on my little on my little locker room. Uh the 756 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 6: thing that I do, and it is what it is. 757 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 6: And I had all those rings up there, and I 758 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 6: was like, man, this this, this is because of Troy 759 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 6: eate Man. I had my quarterback. There is nobody I 760 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 6: will take over Troy Man because I'm not that Patrick Mahomes' 761 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 6: is great. He makes a second play, a third play, 762 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 6: but Troy is the best timing throwing quarterback in the 763 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 6: history of this game. When North Turner got here said 764 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 6: you get that third step and let the ball go, 765 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 6: hit that fifth step and let that ball go, it 766 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 6: became perfect and it was unstoppable. I will take no 767 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 6: one at the quarterback position over Troy eight, not even 768 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 6: Jesus himself. 769 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold on display tonight, what kind of concerns do 770 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 2: you have with Seattle the rest of the year and 771 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. 772 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 6: Well, this game tonight in Seattle and it's going it's 773 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 6: supposed to be a little bit of rain. And I 774 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 6: think this is interesting because you know, a lot of 775 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 6: people I know are picking the RAM, and the RAM 776 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 6: looks like the best team in the NFC. But this 777 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 6: game is not just for the division. It is for 778 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 6: the conference. Talk in the conference and think about that 779 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 6: game in week eleven Dame Sam through four interceptions and 780 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 6: they batterly lost that game forty one night. You know 781 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, backstaff for three for only one hundred 782 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 6: and thirty yards against that defense, It's going to be 783 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 6: an interesting game. If Sam could get down those interceptions 784 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 6: and just play within themselves and let that defense win 785 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 6: this football game for him. I'm leaning towards Seattle inking 786 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 6: out this win with that great defense. 787 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,479 Speaker 2: How much more pressure is on Josh Allen this year? 788 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 6: M hmm. I believe there's a great dere pressure on 789 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 6: Josh Allen. Now why he is there, because you have 790 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 6: to look at it. We said, well, if it wasn't 791 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 6: a to man Homes, but Marge Jack's son and the 792 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 6: Joe Burrows and then Josh Allen and then Joe Burrow, 793 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 6: Josh Allen can go off, go off. Well, those guys 794 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 6: on a round. And now you you deal with a 795 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 6: whole bunch of babies and Drake May and bow Nix 796 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 6: and all of those guys. If you can't get by them, 797 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 6: that means you miss your moment. And they came in 798 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 6: and took your moment. So yeah, Josh Allen is under 799 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 6: a lot of pressure to get it done. But but 800 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 6: all he has to do is go on that phone 801 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 6: booth man and and and and leave Clarke Kenn and 802 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 6: the phone booth comes out Superman and he does his thing. 803 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 6: So I believe he can't get it done. And he 804 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 6: got it done in that game against the Packers the 805 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 6: Patriots last week, so so I believe he can get 806 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 6: it done. 807 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 2: Is it super Bowl or bust for the Bills? 808 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 6: No, no, no, not super Bowl of us. A super 809 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 6: Bowl win a bus you it's got to be a 810 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 6: super Bowl win. The elixir of getting to a super 811 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 6: Bowl that's gone. They got to four straight and didn't 812 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 6: mean any you know what I'm saying. So they're like, 813 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 6: don't tell me about getting there, tell me about the 814 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 6: victory when you get there. So that's how Josh Allen 815 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 6: and that's why the pressure is on Josh Allen. 816 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again. 817 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 6: It's always good to talk to you, man, and say 818 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 6: hello to your family and everybody. Man, I was, really, 819 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 6: you've been on the road a long time, do you 820 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 6: pe God has blessed you greatly? 821 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm the Troy Aikman of talk show host s. 822 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 6: You're right, you're right. You're making them past and you're 823 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 6: making a low time. And there's no greater thrower when 824 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 6: you hit those words, right about it? 825 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: But I didn't. 826 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 6: Uh. 827 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: I didn't date Sandra Bullock though, Yeah? 828 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 6: What What's which was the other girls he dated? Shining 829 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 6: Shining in the Twain uh, the Nights Wing, all of them? 830 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 6: Yeah he had that's a singer, right, yeah, oh yeah 831 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 6: he had. 832 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: Trey dated twin. 833 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 6: Troy had them all, man. 834 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 15: I don't know, Hey, you think this Taylor Swill track 835 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 15: truck did all that stuff, man, and all that. 836 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: He didn't date Madonna, did he? 837 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 6: Hey? Hey, no, that he dated Madonna. Troy Trot and 838 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 6: Troy leg stayed up there at the top thing. Troy 839 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 6: came home after one game and there was some girls, 840 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 6: I guess in his backyard and cool he called the 841 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 6: police on you know what that went down? Like in 842 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 6: the locker room. We were like ticket that. 843 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,800 Speaker 2: You wouldn't you wouldn't have called the police. 844 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 6: Why Dona man? What's your drinking? Uh? 845 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: Happy holidays or thank you buddy. 846 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 6: It's great talking to you again. Happy Holidays to. 847 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 2: YouTube Michael Irvin. He'll be part of Netflix's NFL Christmas 848 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 2: Game Day