1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of attention paid to the presidential 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: race this election cycle between Donald Trump and Joe Biden, 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: but the Senate is very much in play for Republicans. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: There are thirty four seats up in twenty twenty four. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Twenty three are held by Democrats or independents. Now, as 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: someone who's worked in politics, that's a very favorable Senate 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: map for Republicans as long as we don't mess it up. 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: So one thing I want to do this election cycle 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: is get to know some of the candidates who are running. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: One of those candidates, the person we're going to be 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: interviewing today, is Eric Hovedy. He's running for Senate in Wisconsin, 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: a crucial presidential state, a crucial Senate state as well. 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: He's running against Tammy Baldwin, who is extremely liberal. She's 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: already a United States Senator, so she's the incumbent in 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: the race. So far. One of the recent polls had 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: him within three points, so that is within the margin 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: of error. So this race is extremely winnable. And of 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: course we all know what that means for Eric. He's 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: on the receiving end of attack ads. He's on the 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: receiving end of the media. He's going to get all 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: this scrutiny directed him. Way, I'll bring up some of 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: those charges and give him a chance to respond to them. 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: But I want you to get to know Eric, and 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: so that's the goal of today's podcast. He's a super 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: successful entrepreneur, he's a really interesting guy, gives a lot 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: back to charity. But I wanted you to get to 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: know him in his own words. So trust me, you're 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: not gonna want to miss this episode. Stay tuned for 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: our covety. Well, Eric, it's great to have you on 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: the show. So I have actually spent some time in Wisconsin. 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: I worked for the Tommy Thompson for Senate campaign back 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, towards just towards the end for the 33 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: last couple of months, so I got to spend a 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of time in your state. It's a beautiful state. 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: It's an absolute gorgeous state. We have fifteen thousand blakes. 36 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Beautiful state, you know, created by glaciers, so some of 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: the greatest farmland in the world. So yeah, and you 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: know home to the Green Bay Packers. So I'm a 39 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: die hard Packer fan. 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Well, I learned that you do not mess with people 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: football seasons very serious. And then also your press corps 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: they are tough. You've got a liberal press corps that 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you are up against, which you know you've already been 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: on the receiving end of so far. 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, look, the press corps is largely 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: centered in Madison, which is a very progressive, liberal city, 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: and Milwaukee another not progressive but very liberal city. So 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: you know, you just state your message, you push on. 49 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: You don't let them, you know, knock you off your target. 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: And you know, some of them are decent. Some of them, 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, you have this problem in the national media. 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: A lot of them are propagandas they are tools to 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: the democratic left, and you know you have that with 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: different news organizations. But you know, it is what it is. 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: And if you're going to be a candidate, better have 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: very thick skin. 57 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: I think that is a fair assessment. And you know 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: they're already after you, which we'll get into an a bit. 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: I guess you know, you see what they're trying to 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: do to, you know, Donald Trump. I mean, they're trying 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: to throw the freaking guy in jail, bankrupt him. I 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: guess you know, why why do you want this job? 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: You know why do you want to expose yourself to 64 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got a good life, You've done really 65 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: well for yourself financially, so you know, why do this? 66 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Why run? 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: Look, I get that question asked all the time, particularly 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: by my friends, because I'd had been fortunate, built a 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: great life for myself. But it's really simple, and it 70 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: may sound corny, but I love my country. I was 71 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: raised in a time where patriotism was high. My father 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: served President Reagan. You know President Reagan. You know the 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: shining City on the hill, and that's American. I've been 74 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: in one hundred countries around the world. I've homeless shelters 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: for street children and rescuing kids out of the section 76 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: trade and slavery and all the rest. So I've seen 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: what the rest of the world is like. And this 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: country is such an exception, and it has provided its 79 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: people greater prosperity and freedom than any country in the 80 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: history of mankind. And we're watching it melt away. I 81 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: often say, you know, waking up every day the last 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: three and a half years, I feel like I've oken 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: up in a bad episode of the Twilight Zone. Or 84 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: what is right is wrong? Or what is wrong is right? 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: And to see what President Biden and the progressive left 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: have done to our country is just stunning. And they 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: gaslightly all the time. They're destroying us financially. You know, 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: we've added more debt in the last three and a 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: half years than in our first two hundred and thirty 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: years of our country. That is a byproduct of why 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: inflation is where it is. They say they're defending democracy, 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: and all they're doing wing is destroying democracy, weaponizing our 93 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: justice system, using our court system as political theater, as 94 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: you just mentioned, trying to ban another presidential candidate for 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: access in the ballot and trying to bankrupt them. It's disgusting. 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: And then look what they've done with our borders. I mean, 97 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: they've created a humanitarian crisis on our border, and you know, 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: we're already struggling to house and provide medical care for 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: our own citizens, and now we've you know, anywhere estimates 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: ten to twelve million people. Some say that numbers low. 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: And by the way, they've lost one hundred thousand children. 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: You know, President Trump got ripped for not being able 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: to account for four thousand. They can't account for one 104 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: hundred thousand children, I can assure you because three of 105 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: my hufty homes are in Central America. Many of those 106 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: children are ending up in the sex trade. So I 107 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: could just keep going on foreign policy and the division 108 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: they cause. So you know, that's really the reason I 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: decided to run. I co sit on the sideline and 110 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: I have two daughters and three grandchildren, and the world 111 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: we're leaving to them, I just shudder at I mean, 112 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: we're supposed to leave the next generation better off, and 113 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: that is the last thing we're doing. And this administration 114 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: has been an utter disaster. 115 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean, utter disaster is absolutely true. I mean, I 116 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: think we kind of all share that sentiment of feeling 117 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: like we live in this upside down world these days. 118 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about restoring the American dream on 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: your website. I think a lot of people are asking themselves, 120 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, does the American dream even still exist? 121 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: That's a really good question for a lot of Americans. 122 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: We've been hallowing out our middle class and a lot 123 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: of these issues have been going on for a long time. 124 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: And the economic policies where we're just continuing to spend 125 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: all this money and then the Federal Reserve has to 126 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: buy that debt, and that creates greater money supply, and 127 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: what is inflation. It's too much money chasing the same 128 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: amount of goods and services. So we're hammering the middle 129 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: class and the working class and the elderly that are 130 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: in fixed incomes and making it harder for them to 131 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: get ahead. For those that own assets, you know, I 132 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: benefit because I own real estate and stocks and companies. 133 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, it makes me wealthier, but it's hammering, you know, 134 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: ninety percent of Americans. So it's made it so much 135 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: more difficult for Americans to have that quality of life. 136 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: And then you look at our freedoms. I never, in 137 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: my wildest imagination growing up, would ever think my freedom 138 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: of expression would be under attack. But you know, it 139 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: started in the universities with cancel culture. You know, our 140 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: universities were supposed to be the spot where people could 141 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: debate and discuss ideas, and then they became where you 142 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: had to follow this mantra, this leftist mantra, and if 143 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: you expressed any other ideas, or if a conservative even 144 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: went to go speak on campuses, that'd be shut down. 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: And now you've seen that manifest itself in other aspects 146 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: of our society. I mean, during COVID, you know, the 147 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: best virologists and epidemiologists wrote a letter called the bait 148 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: Great Marrington Declaration, saying, trying to lock down our society 149 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: is absolutely the wrong thing, and we'll have very negative consequences. 150 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: And what did big tech do? They just shut them down. 151 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: What did big media do to shut them down? Called 152 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: them climate deniers. It had nothing to do with climate. 153 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: So you just you see these things unfolding that is 154 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: really changing the America that I grew up in and 155 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: that we were so blessed all you know, you know, 156 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: start our lives in and you look at it for 157 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: our young people, and yeah, I'm very worried about what 158 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: their future looks like. And you already see it. I mean, 159 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: look at the rates of anxiety depression amongst our youth. 160 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: I always say, the most stunning statistic that it's hard 161 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: for me to even conceptualize. Seventy seven percent of our 162 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: young people cannot qualify for military service due to mental 163 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: health problems, drug addiction, and obesity. Now that's stunning. I mean, 164 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, I'm fifty nine years old. In my generation, 165 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: maybe that number would have been ten percent, twenty percent 166 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: at the utmost. So our country is in deep trouble, 167 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: and so yeah, I want to try to restore the 168 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 2: American dream, do my part in that, And that's a 169 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: big part of the reason why I'm in this race. 170 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: Of thinks at the root of that depression and the 171 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: increased depression as a society. You know, why do you 172 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: think we have arrived at this place, you know where 173 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: so many people are struggling. 174 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of factors. I think part 175 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: of it is economic. I think bigger parts of it 176 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: are social media. I think technology and our uh, these 177 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: new platforms. You can track literally the rise in youth 178 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: anxiety and depression with the advent of social media, Facebook 179 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: and Instagram and all of that, and particularly for young females. 180 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: You know, everybody's living in the surreal world where you know, 181 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: doctored photos. Everybody's looking like they're having such this wonderful 182 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: time on the photos. You know, in the old days 183 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: it was people in US magazine, but you know, women 184 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: would largely get that once a month and look at it. 185 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: Look at these beautiful people where their photos are all doctored, 186 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: creating like they're all these such wonderful, happy people. And 187 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: then you know, you'd sit there and look at your 188 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: own life and say, well, geez, I'm not doing this, 189 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. Well, that was a once a 190 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: month thing with People magazine and they were Hollywood starlets. 191 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: It wasn't everyday people. Now it's pervasive. You know, these 192 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: young people, they pick up their phone all day long. 193 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: They're they're getting this stuff sent to them. So I 194 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: think the technology, even though it's connected us, has really 195 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: disconnected us in a lot of way and created this 196 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: false reality. So I think that's a big part of 197 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: the problem that youth are dealing with. But I think 198 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: it's multifaceted. What's going on in our society. I mean 199 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: the obesity issue, you know, the amount of process food, 200 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: the kind of food that the chemicals that go into 201 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: our food is clearly having health consequences for our society. 202 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: And as you know, you know, physical, mental, and emotional health, 203 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: they're all connected. If you start loosing want, it starts 204 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: putting pressure on the other and they're all integrated. So 205 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: I think there's so many layers to the issues that 206 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: are happening in our society today. 207 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: We've got to take a quick commercial break. More on 208 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the Wisconsin Senate race. On the other side, you know, 209 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: we talked about the upside down world that it almost 210 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: feels like you're punished if you're a law abiding American. 211 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, we've got criminals coming through, you know, Joe 212 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: Biden's open borders, and we as taxpayers put the bill. 213 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: You know, you look at a lot of these cities. 214 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we all saw what happened in Kenosha, Wisconsin. 215 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: You know, you've got a lot of these cities where 216 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: there's little to no consequences for criminalism. We've got squatters 217 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: stealing property from homeowners. Do you think enough people realize that. 218 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's a strong correlation and a direct correlation 219 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: between the left policies and that on fairness for a 220 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: while abiding Americans. 221 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: You know, because we are all in our own echo 222 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: chambers right now. If you're on the right, or you're 223 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: a person that's willing to digest news on both sides, 224 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: you understand that. But one of the most stunning things 225 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: is when you listen to Democrats that say the border 226 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: is a serious problem. It needs to be fixed, it 227 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: needs to be shut down. Even a border wall now 228 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: has widespread freight approval. But when you ask these Democrats, well, 229 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: who's at fault? They won't blame Joe Biden. And why 230 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: is that because they're never hearing the facts. They don't 231 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: know that there is only three hundred thousand people that 232 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: cross the border the last year President Trumps and since 233 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: Joe Biden took over, it's you know, literally three million 234 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: people a year. Now, you would think they'd be able 235 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: to piece that together. But if you're sitting there watching 236 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: MSNBC all day or CNN, you're never being told about 237 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: how Joe Biden melted away all the policies, you know, 238 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: Stay in Mexico, Title forty two, Section eight, to all 239 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: these different things that President Trump used to reduce the 240 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: amount of illegal immigration. If you're watching MSNBC, what are 241 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: you hearing? Well, the Republicans then passed this bill to 242 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: provide funding. It has nothing to do with funding. There 243 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: was no significant change in funding. In fact, funding has 244 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: only gone up. It's the policies of what he's enacted. So, 245 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, I think a lot of people are waking 246 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: up to it in their own way. But if you're 247 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: in your echo chamber listening to MSNBC, you're not getting 248 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: the facts. And that's one of the problems going on 249 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: our society today. 250 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: Well, and part of that echoed chamber and sort of 251 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: the line of attack against you that you know we're 252 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: already staying. I mean, Cook Political Report is reading their 253 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: analysis of your race, and they wrote this about the 254 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: left line of attack against you. Democrats have already made 255 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: their attack lines clear. Paint hovedy as an out of 256 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: touch multimillionaire who abandoned his home state for his businesses 257 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: in real estate. How do you push back on that? 258 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: You know, what's you know, what's your pushback against them 259 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: in that line of attack. 260 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, trying not to make me a 261 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: Wisconsin night is laughable. I'm a fourth generation wisconsinight born 262 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: their race there, graduated each high school, went onto the 263 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: University of Wisconsin. So I'm a badger, big badger fan. 264 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: I've had a business there for twenty five years. Yes, 265 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: I moved out of there, moved to the East Coast 266 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: for twenty years, met my wife, started my family, my 267 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: other businesses. Moved back in two thousand eleven, and that 268 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: is my home. The fact that I bought another home 269 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: where I have a business and spent once my daughter. 270 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: By the way, my daughter graduated there. It's it's a 271 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: silly attack. I don't think it's going to have much effect. 272 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: Now as it comes to saying I'm out of touch, 273 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 2: I just have to laugh at that one very hard. 274 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Every day I am dealing with real people, my companies, uh, 275 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: you know, when I build buildings in Wisconsin, my development companies, 276 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: I'm walking job sites with construction workers. You know, my 277 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: banking company. Uh. You know, my colleagues are my friends. 278 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: So I'm dealing in the real world every day. Senator 279 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: Baldwin lives in the ultimate political bubble of DC and 280 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: you know, lives with her girlfriend in Manhattan. So when 281 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: they talk about out of touch, I said, my response is, 282 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: look at the mirror. For Senator Baldwin, she is the 283 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: ultimate out of touch per politician comes back to our 284 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: state a little bit here and there to do some publicity, 285 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: and then flies back to d C and lives in 286 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: her little bubble where I live in the real world. 287 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: You know, I have a foundation that's deeply involved with 288 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: the food banks and you know, helping rescue children out 289 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: of the sex trade. Here in America, I have my 290 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: hub the homes nine of from around the world, for 291 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: in Africa, five in Central and South America. So I 292 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: deal in the real world every day, she's the one 293 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: that doesn't well. 294 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: And you know, in the irony is the left policies 295 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: are the ones that are ruining the American dream and 296 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: preventing anyone from from getting ahead in this society. But 297 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: there does seem to be an animosity on the left 298 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: towards people who are successful. Why do you think that is. 299 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: Because a lot of what fuels the left is envy. 300 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: It's interesting the dynamics when you look at they're so negative. 301 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: They're very divisive, the progressive left. And I try to 302 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: say this to Democrats that are reasonable. Your party left 303 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: you and you didn't even realize it. A lot of 304 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: Democrats are waking up to that. But they're very divisive. 305 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: They like dividing us by gender, by race, by economic class, 306 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: by religion. They're dividers and that's part of the way. 307 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: You know, if you look at the history of that 308 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: hard progressive left or the communist socialists, it is by division. 309 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: And so yeah, you know, our country was always built on. 310 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: Part of the American dream was to be successful, and 311 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: still most Americans, the vast majority, want that. But with 312 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: the left, they operate off of a lot of envy 313 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: and anger and I think that's going to be their 314 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: ultimate demise because everything they touch goes to hell. I 315 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: don't care. You know, they run our big cities. Look 316 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: what's happened to our big cities. They largely control education 317 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. You know, we're better than a lot of states, 318 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: but you know, twenty seven percent of our children can 319 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: read a great level lesser proficient at math. They have 320 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: destroyed our education of our young people. And you can 321 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: just go our healthcare. What you know, access to health 322 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: care and the cost of it's gone straight up. Higher education. 323 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, the highest rate of inflation is healthcare and 324 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: higher education. And yet the quality of a higher education, 325 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: in my view, has gone down. And certainly the debating 326 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: of free ideas, so everything the less touches goes negative. 327 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: But they're so divisive they are even destroying things like comedy. 328 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: Most comedians don't even want to go on to university campuses. 329 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: They're very progressive cities because they can't even make jokes. 330 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's going to be their ultimate demise 331 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: is I think people are going to wake up and 332 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: say enough is enough. We're tired of it. You know, 333 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: this push of transgenderism pushing males to compete in female sports. 334 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: I was raised in the time when females didn't have 335 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities in sports. One of the great 336 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: things I saw was women having girls having these opportunities 337 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: to compete in all these sports. And then my youngest 338 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: daughter was a superstar athlete. She was voted Wisconsin's Female 339 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: Athlete of the Year her senior year. And to think 340 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: if boys would have been able to compete against her 341 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: in her sports, would you know? Her teams won the 342 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: state championship and all the rest. So, I think their 343 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: policies have gone so extreme. I do think a lot 344 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: of Americans are rejecting it. And interesting you're seeing the 345 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: Hispanic community and large tunks of the Black community moving 346 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 2: away from them now, like this open border thing is 347 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: really having the Black community saying enough is enough? What 348 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: the heck? So, I think their policies are creating so 349 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: much destruction. I think a lot of Americans are waking up. 350 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: I hope so. And I think people are okay with 351 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: success in respect it as long as the person who's 352 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: been successful is like, yeah, I've done well for myself, 353 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: but I want you to do well for yourself as well. 354 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: And here's how we do it quick break more with Eric. 355 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Obviously abortion's going to be or Democrats are going to 356 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: try to make abortion a central issue this election cycle. 357 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: Where do you stand? 358 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: I believe several things. First of all, it's back to 359 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: the states. I think the citizens of our states should 360 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: vote on this through a referendum. Everybody will have their vote. 361 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: I'll have my vote like everybody else. I believe in 362 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: the beauty of life. I have two daughters, and I 363 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: believe in exceptions for rape incests and the health of 364 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: the mother. I also believe that a woman early on 365 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 2: in a pregnancy should have a right to make a choice. 366 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: But I totally disagree where Senator Baldwin is, and that 367 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: is a healthy baby that can be born alive should 368 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: be terminated. And she's so extreme up to the point 369 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: of delivery. Look, most of Western Europe has resolved this 370 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 2: issue decades ago, and you women have a right to 371 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 2: choose in almost any Western European country. In the first 372 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: ten to fifteen weeks, I think Germany's at twelve, France 373 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: is at fourteen, but all countries are pretty much somewhere 374 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: in that first trimester. But again, once a baby gets 375 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: to a point of development, that it can be born 376 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: and live outside the room it is not allowed, and 377 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: even before that in European countries, and that's more than 378 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: enough reasonable time for a woman to make a choice. 379 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: So that's where I am, and I believe that's where 380 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: the majority of Americans are, if you believe the polling 381 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: on it. But I think the left has pushed that 382 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 2: again to such the extreme, and so I'm not going 383 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: to run from that issue. I'm going to talk about 384 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: it and I will address it head on. 385 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm definitely to the right, you know, I'm definitely an 386 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: outlier in terms of the population and you know, pretty 387 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: pro life to the point where I think I've arrived 388 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: at I don't even believe in exceptions at this point, 389 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: but you know, I respect your opinion and where you 390 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: stand on that. Right now, this race is in a 391 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: striking distance at the hill. Numbers in College recently had 392 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: you down by three, which is in the margin of error. 393 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: How do you beat Tammy Baldwin? You know she's been 394 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: there for a while. What's the plan? 395 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's rather stunning that I've been 396 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: in this race now for five weeks and within five 397 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: weeks time I put it within a margin of era 398 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 2: of three percent, and this race has just begun. You 399 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 2: know how you beat her, You hold her accountable for 400 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: a record. She has been a disaster in every single manner. 401 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: She votes with Joe Biden ninety five point five percent 402 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 2: of the time. Now think of that. You know, my 403 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: wife and I've been together for over thirty years. We 404 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: have a wonderful relationship. I love my wife to death, 405 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: but we don't agree ninety five point five percent of 406 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: the time. I don't know how in the name the 407 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 2: heck you could ever agree with Joe Biden even ten 408 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: percent of the time. So she is your classic progressive, 409 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: you know, backbench who's just a rubber stamp for whatever 410 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: the progressive left wants. I mean, she's voted one of 411 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: the three or foremost liberal senators in the Senate. She's 412 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: been a politician her whole life, literally thirty seven years 413 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: from the time she's graduated college. She went to on 414 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: the Dane County Board, and then the State Assembly, then Congress, 415 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 2: and then the Senate. And I'm going to hold her 416 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: accountable for her votes that have caused this massive amount 417 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: of debt that is killing America and destroying us financially. 418 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to hold her accountable for supporting President Biden's 419 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: open border policy. I'm going to hold her accountable for 420 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: supporting Barack Obama's deal with Iran that blew up, you know, 421 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: terrorism all throughout the Middle East right after and then 422 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: she doubled down with Joe Biden and supporting the deal 423 00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: with Iran again that they were getting doing. You know, 424 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: look what I ran through its proxies did with Hamas 425 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: and has a blot on Israel. So you can just 426 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: go one issue after another. She is a complete do nothing, 427 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: never has accomplished almost anything in her tenure. She collects 428 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: a paycheck and does whatever she's told by, you know, 429 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: the leaders of the progressive left. So the way you 430 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: beat her as hold her accountable and point out her 431 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: track record to the people of the state of Wisconsin. 432 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: Although Eric, they do say, happy wife, happy life. You 433 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: might want to get that percentage up. 434 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: Oh, we agree on a lot of things, not ninety 435 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: five point five. You know, sometimes we want different things 436 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: for dinner. Sometimes we want you know, she wants certain 437 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: things in the house done her way, and you know, okay, honey, 438 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: you got great taste, so you roll with it. But yeah, 439 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: but Yes, happy wife, happy life. I totally concur with that. 440 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: COmON, what do you think makes a happy marriage? Way, 441 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: it's a long time to be married. What do you 442 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: think what's the key to your guys' success? 443 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: You know, there's several things. Never go to bed angry, 444 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 2: even if we're upset each other. We always will give 445 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: each other kiss and tell each other we love each other. 446 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: But probably the most important thing being sweet and kind 447 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 2: to each other. You know, we each have different needs, 448 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 2: different desires, and you know I go out of my 449 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: way to spoil her on those things that are important 450 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: to her, and she goes out of her way to 451 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: spoil me on things. Don't take things too seriously, laugh 452 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: and enjoy, you know, making humor of yourself. So but 453 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: most importantly, I think just being kind and sweet. And 454 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's so easy when you know you got 455 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: stresses on your life to take it out on the 456 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: person closest to you, But you know you got to 457 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: try to push back against that and just always be 458 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: kind and sweet to each other. That's really what I 459 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: think the glue to marriage. 460 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: Well, there you have it, folks. 461 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: Thanks Rek. 462 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Before we go, where can people follow? 463 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: You? 464 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: Donate? You know, learn more about you and follow this race. 465 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: Sure, So it's Eric hugd dot com and Eric is 466 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: E R I C and hug D is h O 467 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: V as in victory d E. So it's huggedd And 468 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: that's a good old nerveegion name means a head of 469 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: the month. 470 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: You've decided not to take a paycheck. Why'd you make 471 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: that decision? And how do you? Money corrupts politicians. 472 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: Look, I think money and special interests have corrupted Washington. 473 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: I think that's a big problem that we have in 474 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: our country and our governments today. You know, they say 475 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: money's the mother's Malka politics, and it is distorting everything 476 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: at our tax system, our regulatory system. Who has the 477 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: money to buy off politicians? Iss don't want it cleaned 478 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: up because they get money contributions for twisting the tax 479 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: code and creating loopholes or earmarks or regulations. So you know, look, 480 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: I've been blessed in life. I've worked my tail off, 481 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: I've taken a bunch of risks, and I don't need 482 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: anybody's money. So my view is I'm not going to 483 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: take any corporate special interest money. I will not influence 484 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: my decisions. I'm going to put the people of the 485 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: state of Wisconsin in my country. First, I'm not doing 486 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: this for the lifestyle. That is for darn shirt. And 487 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: I want to go to Washington and do what is 488 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 2: always right. And then as it pertains to my paycheck, 489 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I give away enormous amounts of 490 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: money every single year through charities. I'm a big believer 491 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: to who much is blessed much as expected to wear. 492 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: A man's heart goes, so goes his treasures. And and 493 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: so I thought, okay, I'll donate my senate salary every year. Well, 494 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: my foundation team will pick out three four good charities 495 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 2: and they'll let the people at the State of Wisconsin 496 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: vote on them and pick which one for the year 497 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: where that money will go to. So I look at 498 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: this as service. Our country was governed and our founding 499 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: fathers wanted to be governed by citizen legislators who went 500 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 2: to serve for a term or two, which is important, 501 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: bring their skills and go back home. That's how I 502 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: look at this as service to serve the country that 503 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: allowed me to create a wonderful life and prosperity for myself. 504 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: And it's in a desperate shate now so I'm going 505 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: to serve and then a term or two and then 506 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: I will go out because the last thing I'd want 507 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: to do is spend the rest of my life in politics. 508 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: Eric, we appreciate your time. We'll be following the race. 509 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: Love to get you back on as we get further 510 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: into the election cycle. But we appreciate making the time 511 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: for us today and coming on the show. It's nice 512 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: getting to know you. 513 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: Wonderful being on your show, Lisa, and I wish all 514 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: your listeners have a wonderful day. 515 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: So that was Eric Hovdy. We appreciate him making the time. 516 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: He's running for Senate in Wisconsin against Tammy Baldwin, who 517 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: is an uber LIB and also these guys are busy, 518 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: so I appreciate him for giving us so much time. 519 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: He was very gracious with that. I want to thank 520 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, 521 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: but of course you've been listen throughout the week until 522 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: next time.