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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Betting

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Speaker 1: Pros NFL podcast. I'm your host, Dan Harris. With me,

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Speaker 1: of course, is Matt Pearl. You can find us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Dan Harris Ady and at Sports Talk Matt.

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Speaker 2: Matt. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: I am ready to go here. I feel a five

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Speaker 3: and oh coming in the DraftKings. I like the slate.

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Speaker 3: I'm hot and ready to go today.

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Speaker 1: All right, you are hot, that is true. I hate

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Speaker 1: this slate. So this is gonna be very interesting as

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Speaker 1: we talked through it. What did you do in the circle?

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Speaker 1: By the way, how did you go in the circa.

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Speaker 3: Breaking two, three and two, five and five in both contests?

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Speaker 1: All right, so yeah, let's recap the where we are

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Speaker 1: in the DK contest before we get in. We are

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Speaker 1: five and five. We were two and three last week.

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Speaker 1: We had the Eagles getting one and a half from

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Speaker 1: the Rams. It was a terrible loss. We had the

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Speaker 1: Vikings getting three and a half from the That was

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Speaker 1: even worse laws And to be clear, that was the

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Speaker 1: one that I really liked.

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Speaker 3: The cut.

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Speaker 1: We did hit on the cards, giving six and a

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Speaker 1: half to Washington. We took two other games which were

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Speaker 1: the Raiders getting five and a half from the Saints

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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys laying four and a half to the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: I told you on the show to make sure to

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Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter again at Dan Harris Hadi at

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Speaker 1: Sports Talk, Matt, because we you know, it's early in

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Speaker 1: the week we want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: That was on Wednesday night.

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Speaker 1: By the way, We're going to be doing this on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night from now and going forward, just so we

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Speaker 1: can make sure we have as much information as possible.

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Speaker 2: I said to follow us because we might change. We

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Speaker 2: did change.

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Speaker 1: We moved off those two bets, so we moved off

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Speaker 1: to bets that we would have gone one and one

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Speaker 1: on you know, not a huge deal, Matt. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think we both just sort of felt like, especially

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Speaker 1: where you weren't in Vegas, it was just such a

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Speaker 1: so much money. So all the public was just running

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Speaker 1: in of course to back the Raiders in that first game.

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Speaker 3: Which what was so funny about that though, is that

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Speaker 3: and this is where I need to be careful. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that is true except for everywhere outside Nevada. Correct, And

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that because I'm in my literally my

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Speaker 3: Vegas bubble right right. So in the Vegas Bubble. It

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Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, the line crashed in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: It closed at three and a half. I couldn't believe it,

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Speaker 3: and I was nervous. That freaked me out by that.

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Speaker 3: But everywhere else it was eighty percent of the money

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Speaker 3: on the Saints. So that was my bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I mean it doesn't matter. And

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Speaker 1: I liked the Cowboys. But what's funny is that Matt

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Speaker 1: and I talked, because Matt and I talked anyway, just

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Speaker 1: about this stuff, and he actually he's in the circle

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Speaker 1: with a partner and he was taking the other side

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Speaker 1: of that game. He had the falcons, which you know,

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Speaker 1: turned out to be correct. So I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't feel that strong about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's think more about it. And so we moved off that.

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Speaker 1: We went to the Panthers getting nine and a half

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I mean, it very easily could

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Speaker 1: But we also moved What was the other game that

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Speaker 1: we moved to that we hit on, Matt am I

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Speaker 3: Now, the game we hit on was I'm blinking on it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the Ravens the rankings. Yes, the Ravens laying seven

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Speaker 1: a half. By the way, Matt is always just a Ravens.

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Speaker 1: And Matt said, you said you talked to a bookmaker

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Speaker 1: way up to ten.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we were like, all right, that's that's that

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Speaker 1: sounds good to me. And again laying on the Ravens

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Speaker 1: here early, because the Ravens play to rip your heart out.

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Speaker 1: They don't just play to you know, barely cover the spread,

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Speaker 1: barely win. They played to rip your heart out. So again,

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Speaker 1: really a distinction, that difference. We went too and three.

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Speaker 1: We're five and five overall, so that's not good. But

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Speaker 1: the good news, at least in the DraftKings contest is

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Speaker 1: it was a bad week for everyone. Twenty four percent

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Speaker 1: of participants took the Chiefs laying eight and a half. Wow,

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Speaker 1: twenty one percent were on the vikings with us forty percent.

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Speaker 2: We're on the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: As Matt and I talked about, you know, I messaged

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Speaker 1: Matt on the live stream that Matt does.

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Speaker 2: Which you should be tuning into YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Dot com slash betting pros every Sunday morning Eastern eleven

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Speaker 1: am to noon, so that's eight to nine. Where Matt is,

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Speaker 1: he goes through the slate and I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: popping in and I'll I'll write them questions anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Forty percent we're on the Eagles and twenty one percent

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Speaker 1: we're on the Jets against the Niners. You should not

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Speaker 1: be on the Jets against anyone ever, So everybody took

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Speaker 1: a back. Here we sit two hundred and forty third

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Speaker 1: out of six hundred and ninety one, so that is

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Speaker 1: not terrible. Two undefeated teams are still in the contest,

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Speaker 1: but neither one of them made a pick last week. Remember,

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Speaker 1: you can take two weeks off whatever reason. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: were like, man, I was really hot that first.

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Speaker 3: Week, until you're doing week two. To take it very weird,

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Speaker 3: very weird to me, Like I'm only you got like

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Speaker 3: a family emergency or something like, right, so weird weak

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Speaker 3: to take off, especially after a five and oh start.

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Speaker 3: Why not keep rolling? You're clearly seeing the board clearly,

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Speaker 3: so let's go there. Deal.

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Speaker 1: There are two undefeated teams, but they're both five and out.

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Speaker 1: They're not ten and out. Four teams have picked nine

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Speaker 1: out of ten games correctly, that's it. Everybody else is

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Speaker 1: eight and eight out of ten or worse. So we're

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Speaker 1: still right in the mix there. But here's what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do for the show today. Usually what I do

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Speaker 1: is I say, all right, man, let's go through the game.

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Speaker 1: Do you give me your picks? You like, no, No,

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Speaker 1: We're done with that. We're now going to go back

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Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth a little bit. Now Matt

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Speaker 1: loves some games this week. I'm like, all right, I

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Speaker 1: kind of have a lean on you know, four maybe five,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm I'm really like one game, which

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Speaker 1: I think we're both gonna be on.

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Speaker 2: But that's really it.

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Speaker 1: Some of you as that have asked for player props, Matt,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you. Like where I'm at DraftKings

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Speaker 1: and especially in any of the online books, they're just

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Speaker 1: not really out points. Bet has these props that you

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Speaker 1: can do that are, you know, over under fifty yards,

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Speaker 2: I just think it's silly.

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Speaker 3: To do, so I'll plug the live stream. That's what

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Speaker 3: the live streams for. Okay, correct live stream is going

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Speaker 3: to be a props player prop, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 3: my picks on the Daily Juice so you can hear

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Speaker 3: my plays on Sunday for the Daily Juice, and chances are,

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Speaker 3: unless there's like a gigantic crazy injury or a massive

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Speaker 3: line swing, there's not going to be much change to

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Speaker 3: my Daily Juice plays on Sunday morning heading into the

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning live stream. But the player props will one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent be you know. That's where I'm gonna give

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Speaker 3: you the player props. So if you want the player

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Speaker 3: props live stream every Sunday morning at eleven o'clock Eastern

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Speaker 3: on the Betting Pros YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't forget to subscribe. And if you want

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Speaker 1: button that I'll let you know. But also I do

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Speaker 1: props because I do player projections because of Fantasy's that's

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Speaker 1: where I'm at. So I will message Matt. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna be on, but I will give Matt some of

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Speaker 1: my player props that I like based on my projection

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Speaker 1: so we can relay them there.

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Speaker 2: All right, we've got to get into it.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot, but before we do, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna say I hope that Matt does not have

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Speaker 1: a particularly strong lean on the Saints lanth three and

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Speaker 1: a half to the Packers, because I do not. But

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Speaker 1: if the line were instead, if either team scores a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: you win one hundred dollars, then I would take that,

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Speaker 1: because that's what it is. If you go to bettingpros

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Speaker 1: dot com slash bet MGM through that link, if you

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Speaker 1: bet a dollar on either team to win that game,

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Speaker 1: you win one hundred dollars in free bets.

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Speaker 2: If either team.

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Speaker 1: Scores a touchdown either way, you win one hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: in free bets. There is going to be a touchdown

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Speaker 1: scored in that game. I can virtually guarantee it you

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Speaker 1: will win. This available in New Jersey, Colorado, Indiana, and

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Speaker 1: Do not turn down free money, all right, Matt, start off?

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Speaker 1: Don't say sans and backers to lead off off here?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you now.

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Speaker 3: Am I giving you my most confident play or just

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Speaker 3: one that I like?

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Speaker 1: And you know what, man, the world is your oyster.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want, I'm gonna go with probably what I

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Speaker 1: if you want to start that way or do whatever

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Speaker 3: To play that. I'm the most confident on The Patriots

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Speaker 3: are going to kick the living daylights of the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're just to be clear. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that very briefly. But that was also my most confident pick.

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Speaker 1: So we we're locking at it.

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Speaker 3: But they're going to absolutely wipe the field with the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: And this is a classic spot for a young football team.

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Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs was in that practice on Thursday. The Patriots

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Speaker 3: are going to take away Darren Waller. Stefan Gilmour is

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Speaker 3: furious after what happened with DK Metcalf eating his lunch.

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Speaker 3: If the Raiders score more than fourteen points, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be shocked.

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, I'm not going to go that far.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this is a very classic Belichick against the

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's, you know.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, if not the greatest coach of all time, one

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Speaker 2: I mean you look at the picture. The picture says it,

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Speaker 2: all right. He looks like God did, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is not going to go to sleep

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Speaker 1: until he fixes all these old things in a game.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that the Patriots were, you know, extremely.

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Speaker 1: Close to winning one play, so one play exactly, So

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Speaker 1: I love that play too. I really think that this

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Speaker 1: is something where you mentioned it. I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to take away a waller because that's exactly what they do.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to stack the box and they're

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Speaker 1: going to say, okay, go ahead, beat us over the top,

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, and again they're traveling east.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget that.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's got all the hallmarks of a Patriots

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Speaker 1: beat down. So it is five and a half. It

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Speaker 1: is the Matt paraltism. But you're throwing it out right now.

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Speaker 1: I will say one thing. On betting pros dot com,

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Speaker 1: we have consensus lines. The consensus line is.

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Speaker 3: Actually five, so it's going down.

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Speaker 1: All right, so what we're gonna put that one in

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Speaker 1: the game, even if they're behind, pretty much at will

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Speaker 1: when things are going right. Considering they have Zeke, they're

438
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,800
Speaker 1: big three wide receivers, even Dalton Schultz.

439
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,879
Speaker 2: So four and a half to me. This game without fans.

440
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,359
Speaker 1: Again, with fans, different story to me because I think

441
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 1: Seattle really loses that home field advantage with that. But

442
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200
Speaker 1: without fans, this strikes me as a game that should

443
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,480
Speaker 1: be closer to a field goal. So I imagine you

444
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,439
Speaker 1: hate this game, but go ahead and give your thoughts.

445
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,560
Speaker 3: Gritting my teeth. You have the whole board, you could

446
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,639
Speaker 3: pick any game you want, yep, And you want to

447
00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,000
Speaker 3: fade Russ right now?

448
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean, what is he?

449
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,800
Speaker 3: What is he now? Seventy five percent completion percentage.

450
00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,919
Speaker 2: Russ is amazing Rus.

451
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,360
Speaker 3: If you want to go into that team, you want

452
00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,359
Speaker 3: to go up against that guy right now, with the

453
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,600
Speaker 3: way that they're throwing the football, with the way DK

454
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 3: metcalf is playing against a team that got lit up

455
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,200
Speaker 3: by the Falcons last week.

456
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe we should explain my pick because it's

457
00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 1: obviously not coming through. I'm not picking the Cowboys to win.

458
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm not going to lose by a field goal. But I

459
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 3: think there's a good possibility that they just got the

460
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 3: greatest luckiest break in the history of sports, and father

461
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 3: time and everything else comes back your your pendulum swings

462
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 3: the other way, and they got every lucky break you

463
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 3: can imagine, including some team deciding dan Quinn again deciding

464
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 3: to throw up all over himself.

465
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 1: You don't have to recover, try to recover onside kicks, man,

466
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's I mean.

467
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I mean, you can't touch it

468
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 3: till ten yards right there. When we're taught in Pop Warner,

469
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 3: you can't touch that ball if you're the receiving team.

470
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't know how or why you'd

471
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,879
Speaker 3: want to go near this team. It's a I mean,

472
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 3: I credit the buy low factor with this, because this

473
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 3: is buying low on the Cowboys. It's just my gosh,

474
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson.

475
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 1: All Right, the over under right now is fifty six,

476
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: so that's an implied total for the Seahawks of what thirty.

477
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 3: I'm not debating. I'm not debating the point that points

478
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,440
Speaker 3: are going to be scored, if.

479
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

480
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing, Russell. I'm not fading Russell Wilson. I know

481
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is going to put up points. I'm more

482
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 1: buying the Cowboys' ability to put up a ton of

483
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: points to hang with this offense.

484
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 2: But it's fine. This is a team that we that

485
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: you and I do together.

486
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 1: That's why we throw them out so we can move

487
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 1: that one to the side, just like we did with

488
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: the Giants against the Bears last week.

489
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,679
Speaker 2: All Right, my friend, go ahead, start up with your

490
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 2: next pick. Give it to me.

491
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going back to the old Oh I'm

492
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 3: two and l fad in this team. I'm fading again.

493
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers, according to Pro Football Focus, of a top

494
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: five defense right now, Yep, they are crushing people they

495
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: are young, they are talented, and they blitz as much

496
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 3: as anybody in football. This offensive line for the Houston

497
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 3: Texans is god awful. They're not going to be able

498
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 3: to protect Sean Watson. Now that Shaun can run around, okay,

499
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 3: and you can move, you can pick up first downs

500
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 3: with his legs, I get it. Incredible athlete. He has

501
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: no one to pass to. This dude's got no help whatsoever.

502
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 3: Big Ben's getting healthy. Him and Juju are starting to click.

503
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Speaker 3: Lay the four Pittsburgh minus.

504
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,919
Speaker 1: Four, it's actually three and a half a month, love

505
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: but even more unless I missed it.

506
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 2: Let me check what is I think that was four?

507
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: No, I don't know four circus, so check what I

508
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: messaged you, because I'll tell I. Look up what it

509
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: is in betting pros for right now for our consensus

510
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: lines the Steelers, which for whatever reason I can't find

511
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: at the moment, give me a second Steelers against the Texans.

512
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 3: Three and a half? Love it?

513
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah it's three and a half. Okay, good, so you

514
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: love it even more? Okay, The consensus line is four

515
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 1: in Bettingborough, so we're getting a little bit of a

516
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: deal there. Yeah, that is on my list. I'm going

517
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: to write it in because it was on my list

518
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: and it was the next one that I was going

519
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: to talk about.

520
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 2: So if you're good with it, I'm fine with it.

521
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: That's minus Pittsburgh minus three and a half to the Texans.

522
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel for the Texans a little bit,

523
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: just because they got so much crap what they did

524
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: on the off season and they roll out with this.

525
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: Schedule where they just have a horrific schedule.

526
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 3: It's the hardest schedule I can remember for the first

527
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 3: three games of anybody in the NFL that Like, I mean,

528
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: and I've been watching football for a really long time,

529
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: I can't remember a time when you have to play

530
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 3: against the two best teams in football and then go

531
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: on the road to one of the more difficult places

532
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: in a team in Pittsburgh. Google loves playing in Hinz Field.

533
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: Yep.

534
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: Ouch. I mean, this is just this is It's not

535
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: even Bill O'Brien's fault. I mean, you want to hammer

536
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: the guy, fine, but this oen three is almost like

537
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 3: an automatic.

538
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

539
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: Look, my one fear of it is that I legitimately

540
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: despise backing Tomlin in these situations. Where you think Tomlin

541
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: has knocked me out of so many survivor pools and

542
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: coaching career, right, Like, this is the type of game

543
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna be like, Oh, you just forgot to show

544
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: up then in this game.

545
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 2: But I do think Look, it.

546
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: Was my fourth, my fourth game, so I'm I'm totally

547
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: with you there, and I'm good to put that in

548
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: the contest. To be clear, our experts because I didn't

549
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 1: give that for Dallas, because maybe you'll be surprised, are

550
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: experts for Pittsburgh sixty one percent favor Pittsburgh over Houston's

551
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: are not crazy? But in Dallas Seattle it's fifty three

552
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: forty seven in favor of Seattle. So I'm not I'm

553
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: not crazy, and I'm going to take that one.

554
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: We do.

555
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: By the way, Matt and I are two of the

556
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: experts who put in our picks for betting pros. I'm

557
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: taking the Cowboys at four and a half and then

558
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: on Sunday we're going to be yelling at each other.

559
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: Oh no, but I don't mind it. I mean, it's

560
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: just as as these five picks are so valuable, Like,

561
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: I don't mind you picking in the game.

562
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: Well, this is why I'm telling you, I hate this slate, Matt,

563
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: But you.

564
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: Can pick as many games as you want on that.

565
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: So it's like if you if you go, you know,

566
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: ten and one in the one game you get wrong

567
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: happens to be this game. Well, I mean, that's kind

568
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 3: of where we are. But so to me, it's got

569
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 3: a lot to do with the fact that these five

570
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: picks are so valuable that I just my gosh, going

571
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: up against Russell Wilson just of the five. We have

572
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: so many other games we could pick, and this is

573
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: the game we're gonna pick.

574
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 2: Uh, Yeah, that's right.

575
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm willing to go against Russell Wilson if I'm getting

576
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: the four and a half points with the Cowboys, because

577
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna hang with them, so deal with it.

578
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 2: But it's fine, we're gonna leave it out.

579
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: You know what else We're gonna leave out the next

580
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: one I like, which you are going to despise. I'm

581
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: just putting this out there. I have more, which I

582
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 1: know you would like, and so I could kind of

583
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: pus your foot around this and be like, well, Mann

584
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: will probably.

585
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: Like, don't take the Giants.

586
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 2: Oh oh you know, oh giants plus three and a half.

587
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't bet this game with your money.

588
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: I mean you should. I will give you money, and

589
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: I would.

590
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: I would if you gave me one hundred dollars. I

591
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't bet that with your money. In the hell of

592
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: all the games? Why would you ever pick this game?

593
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Name me.

594
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Two starting offensive players for the forty nine ers that

595
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: will be playing in this game.

596
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: I can't kill, right, kill, He'll probably play. He might play,

597
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: but why would you Why would you play him? If

598
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: you're the forty nine ers?

599
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: Why correct? Why would you play him?

600
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: Don't play?

601
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: You're right, you shouldn't play him, and you're not going

602
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: to play anybody else of any consequence. And you're not

603
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna play Bosa or Thomas.

604
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 3: Well, you can't play Bosa, I mean, because that's what

605
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

606
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: You're not going to play the guys who are out

607
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: for the season. Okay, You're not going to.

608
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: Play either of your starting running backs. You're not going

609
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: to play your quarterback. You're going to just be throwing

610
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: nothing out there.

611
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: And there's no Saquon Barkley for well.

612
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 1: I understand, but you know, we talked about this last

613
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: week with Chicago. There was no Saquon Barkley in that

614
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: game either, and they still covered because the Giants offense, that's.

615
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: Because of the offense is garbage for for the Bears.

616
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: That's good. I mean it's you can't you can't go

617
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: one to the other here.

618
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: Just oh no, I said when I was making this pick,

619
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: and again I've already put this pick in. Actually, I'd

620
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: like to see what it is right now. Hold on,

621
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: I just I would like to see exactly what is.

622
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: First of all, I want to see what the consensus

623
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: line is. The consensus line is still three and a half,

624
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: so that is where it is. I want to see

625
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: have a curiosity. Okay, yeah, San Francisco sixty two to

626
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: thirty eight percent. Not overwhelming, not like the Patriots, but

627
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: that's fine. Look for me, this is also back to back.

628
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: This is contrarian by contrarian, but by contrarian standards. I

629
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: love this contrarian. This is the pupil that.

630
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: You've got to stay out east. Now, to be fair,

631
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: they did not go back west. I don't think. I

632
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: think they stayed somewhere on the East coast because they

633
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: played the Jets and now.

634
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: They're playing the Giants.

635
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't think they did the travel but it's back

636
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: to back games on the East Coast and the time

637
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: that really doesn't work. They have no one Matt and

638
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: even their defense putting aside. But all right, first of all,

639
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: I'll love you. Make it clear we're not going to

640
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: take the game, of course, because we've got to fight.

641
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying it relaxed. I'mbout trying to talk

642
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: to you again. As I said, I like one game

643
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: this week and it was your number one pick, and

644
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: that's it. But I don't love this slate. But that

645
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: would be one of my games if I were doing

646
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: this by myself, because I really do think their cornerbacks

647
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: are all injured. They've got, you know, decimated on their defense,

648
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: decimated on their offense, and the Giants have enough frisky

649
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: pieces that they can put up view points even without

650
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. So for me, if I'm getting more in

651
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: the fieldal here, I'm taking I am betting it, all right,

652
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: So everybody listening out there, you can make fun of

653
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: me on Sunday betting this.

654
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: Oh I'm betting it. Yeah, I'm betting it.

655
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going crazy with it, but I've

656
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: made a bet on it. I'm willing to roll with that, so.

657
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: I wring ballins to drop forty on you.

658
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: It would if you know, it wouldn't be the worst

659
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: bet I've ever made. I'll be out of it, all right,

660
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: Go to your next one, Matt, What do you have?

661
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: All right?

662
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: So I've got two plays, and you can tell which

663
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: one you want to talk about. I like in the

664
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: both dogs Detroit plus five and a half are Chiefs

665
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: plus three and a half? Which one do you want

666
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: to talk about?

667
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: I actually want to talk about both of them. Start

668
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with two for one? Which is

669
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: fine because I've already I'm already at the Giants getting

670
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: points from the forty nine ers range of my pick.

671
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: So let's talk about all them because I'm interested in

672
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: the Lions back because you and I kind of we

673
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: go back and forth a little bit. You know, we

674
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit before, and we both

675
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: sort of had this. This is very much the spot

676
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: where classic the way you think about sports gambling, classic

677
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: time where this is a game for the Lions. But

678
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: the more I dug into it, I got nervous about it.

679
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: So I'm way nervous about both these picks. And I

680
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: was trying to find my fifth one because of my

681
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: five pat Steelers, Titans Chargers, those are my four. The

682
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: fifth one is when I was struggling. And so with

683
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: the Lions, I think, I think car I think the

684
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: Cardinals win, all right, Yeah, But my question is with

685
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: backs against the wall, you have to win because or

686
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: at least you have to play competitively because Matt Patricia

687
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: already has folks saying he should be fired. Yep, And

688
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: there's already already this call right now for you know,

689
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: complete regime change and completely scrapping everything, pull everything down

690
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 3: and start all over again. Because they tried it with Patricia.

691
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: It didn't work. This expatriot way hasn't worked. Fire, the

692
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: GM fired, the coach, redo everything. So my concern is

693
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: they've had back to back double digit leads in Week

694
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: one and Week two and they've blown them both. You know,

695
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: at some point do they win that one game like

696
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: the Celtics did in Game three against the Heat where

697
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: they had they blew the lead but they still hung

698
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: on to win. So I wonder, like, do the Lions

699
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: get the lead and then blow it again and the

700
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: Cardinals come back and then win by four? Yeah? And

701
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: you're catching five and a half, and so I'm I'm

702
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: with you on being more and more afraid. I just

703
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: think I think it's gonna be a really a public play,

704
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 3: and I think it could be like seven by time kickoff.

705
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: So I might bet this game with the Lions for

706
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: our sake at five and a half. It's a number.

707
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 3: Obviously I don't like correct.

708
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: By the way, can we also talk about the fact

709
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: that you were like, you're gonna learn something about me, Dan,

710
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: There are certain paralisms.

711
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't go five and a half and.

712
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: I don't minus five and a half.

713
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: I don't, but oh you don't take well take.

714
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Points, Oh take five and a half points. It's minus

715
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: five and a half.

716
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't lay like we're taking the Patriots with your

717
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: best bet.

718
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: Well that's different though, because again this my team is

719
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 3: my pay as I told you, as I told you

720
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: when I tweeted you this or to text you this

721
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: to me, when it comes to my team and the Patriots,

722
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: I don't care what that line was, got it. I'm

723
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: taking the Patriots six, seven, nine, whatever. The Patriots are

724
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: winning that game big in my mind.

725
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: Kind of like what I do with the Jets, except

726
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: the opposite way.

727
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: Just take there anyway, taking five and a half, I

728
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: know problem taking five and a half. It's live five

729
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: and a half.

730
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: My fault. I misunderstood the prophism.

731
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: So the plus five with the Lions is intriguing. It's

732
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: six right now, and it's climbing, so like the people

733
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: are taking the number and they're pushing it up. So

734
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: the Lions are definitely a live dog here in this game,

735
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: but I feel like it might be a little bit

736
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: too public. And then the contrarian of contrarian plays is

737
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Monday Night.

738
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I do want to talk about that one actually,

739
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: because I'm more intrigued by that one. And it's funny

740
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: that you brought that up, because I was like, man,

741
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know if this one's gonna be worth

742
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: bringing up. I'd rather bring up the Giants with the

743
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: three and a half than saying the Chiefs taking the Ravens,

744
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: which mattters just like the Ravens the Ravens, which you

745
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: are correct. Here's my problem with this. First of all,

746
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it on betting pros it is still

747
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: five and a half. With the Cardinals laying five and

748
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: a half, there is a six out there right now,

749
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: and it is that Fox bet, which is a little

750
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: off the expert consensus for our picks seventy six percent

751
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: is taking Arizona, and I am actually on that side.

752
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: Now.

753
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: I was originally thinking, here's what I think.

754
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: I just think at this point that Vegas and sportsbooks,

755
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they're properly valuing the Cardinals yet. I

756
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: don't think they've caught up to what the Cardinals actually are.

757
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: And kudos to you, Matt, because you liked this team.

758
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: We talked about it preseason. I did not. I did

759
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: not think that this team was gonna be something that

760
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: was going to make any noise.

761
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: But they look really really good.

762
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: Their defense looks a little better than expected, and I

763
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: think they're better than bookmakers are giving them credit for it.

764
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: And I think that's going to become apparent pretty soon.

765
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: Well here's here, here's a little yeah, a little add on.

766
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

767
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: I haven't give this out in the Daily Juicy yet,

768
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna do it tonight. Go bet the Cardinals

769
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: to win the NFC at plus twelve hundred. Yeah, if

770
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: you look at the NFC, I'm not saying winning the

771
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: Super Bowl now because you're dealing with the other side

772
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: with the Raves and the Chiefs, but just to win

773
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. If you look at the teams in

774
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: the NFC and how the Cardinals match up with them,

775
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: at plus twelve hundred, it's incredible odds, incredible value on

776
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: the Cardinals there. So sorry to interject, but that's a

777
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: bet I think people should make right now at plus

778
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: twelve hundred for the Cardinals to win the NFC.

779
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: That's a great call.

780
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I definitely people if the odds are twelve

781
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: hundred ad and looked at it, they should do that. Conversely,

782
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: as I was saying, the Lions just suck, like that's

783
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Their defense is young and injured. I

784
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: know they're gonna Getkenny GALLIAI back, I don't care. This

785
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: is just not the defense. I don't think they're gonna

786
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: be able. I think it's going to be a monstrous

787
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: day for every significant piece of the Arizona off Keny

788
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: d we talked about it. We just had a daily

789
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: fantasy sports show that we do on Thursdays. Kenyan Drake

790
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: was a guy that we all loved. Kyler Murray was

791
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: a guy that we all loved. If you're willing to

792
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: spend up on quarterback on a wide receiver, do it

793
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins. This is just the game where I

794
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: think that in the end, this is going to be

795
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: kind of like the Oh the Cardinals are a scary team.

796
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: So I'm staying away from the lines.

797
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: But go to the Chiefs plus three and a half

798
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: because I think this is going to wind up being

799
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: somehow in the DK contest.

800
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: But go ahead.

801
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: So here's Chiefs plus three and a half. And I

802
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: believe the hook here is a big deal to me. Yep,

803
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: Kansas City doesn't lose these games as underdogs. They have

804
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: not been a dog in a long time. I forget

805
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: the actual stat, but it's been like two years since

806
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: they've been an underdog. You have Patrick Mahomes playing in

807
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: the AFC Super Bowl, because that's what this is. It's

808
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: the regular season super Bowl. Everyone all eyes. I know

809
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: that you've got Lamar Jackson and I like the running

810
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: game a lot, but the problem is that the Ravens

811
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: get behind. They got a tough time making games up.

812
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: They have a tough time coming back from from deficits.

813
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: And what do the Chiefs do. That's all they do

814
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: is come back from deficits matter what you put them

815
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: in ten twenty, it doesn't matter. This team just comes back.

816
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: The best team in football are the Chiefs. I'm catching points.

817
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: I don't care where the game's being played. Plus three

818
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: and a half. Give me the Chiefs.

819
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is going in the contest match, okay, because

820
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: it was on my list, and I was like, I'm

821
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna save this one for a little bit down because

822
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy. And I know you love the

823
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Ravens and you have been on you have been I

824
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: mean you have been completely like oh no, no, no, no,

825
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: this is it. I don't care what they're giving. That's

826
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: seven and a half. I've got no problems taking that whatsoever.

827
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: You've been uber confidence. So I was like, well, you're

828
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: not gonna want it the Chiefs. But I agree with you.

829
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm not sure necessarily that they're the best team.

830
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not they're better than the Ravens,

831
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: but I do know if I'm getting more than a

832
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: field goal, I'm good with it.

833
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: So for me right now, you correct me if I'm wrong.

834
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: We're pretty much in agreement right now.

835
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: At the Pats laying five and a half against the Raiders,

836
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: the Titans laying two and a half to Minnesota. Yep,

837
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers laying three and a half to the Text,

838
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: the Chiefs getting three and a half to the Ravens.

839
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: The only other, right, we're good on this, We're good,

840
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: all right. For the other one that's under consideration is

841
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: the Chargers laying six and alfter the Panthers. Now that

842
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: is under consideration. Let's talk through some of these other

843
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: games and let's just see whether or not we think

844
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: there's anything else that we could be missing. How do

845
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: you feel about the Bears getting three and a half

846
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: in Atlanta?

847
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the problem with the Bears, because

848
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: they win a game and everyone's going to be like,

849
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: here we go and it's Tribbitsky. Oh he's playing great.

850
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 3: Look out, give me a break. It's Tribitsky. Okay, it's

851
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: the first start. I don't care it's one. It doesn't

852
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: make a difference to me. In my mind. I am

853
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: not looking at this as like an opportunity where we're saying, yes,

854
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: this is smart. I'm going you know, I'm gonna fade

855
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: as much as I can. I'm gonna fade the Bears.

856
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: I can't go near that game.

857
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: All right, So for me, this would be one where

858
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: I knew you wouldn't because I'm not a lunatic, but

859
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: it would be one where if I'm forced to choose

860
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: a side, it would be Chicago in this one. The

861
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: consensus line, by the way, is down to three. There's

862
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: only one three and a half that I see out there.

863
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: So getting the hook in the DK contest is something

864
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: that makes a little bit of a difference. I don't

865
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: really trust uh Trubisky, and there's no way that I

866
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: would really be like, if I can find any way

867
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: to avoid doing this, that I would want to do it.

868
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: But Atlanta is just so bad and they may be

869
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: down Julio Jones by the right, But I agree with you.

870
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see because if you were on

871
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: the fence about it, I would be willing to talk

872
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: this one through.

873
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: Well, the only our game that I'm on the fence

874
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: on is the Rams at the Bills.

875
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that one, because that is

876
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: the what is the that is the Rams getting one

877
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: and a half in Buffalo.

878
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, by the way, I.

879
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: Do want to point out, just on that one, seventy

880
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: seven percent of our experts are on Atlanta in that game.

881
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm forced to choose a side, I'm

882
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: taking Chicago at the three and a half. It's three

883
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: again on our consensus. But go ahead, Mat, I'm sorry.

884
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I It's just like last week. Right, So

885
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: last week the Eagles were laying one one and a

886
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: half and it closed. I guess it opened with the

887
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: Rams getting I guess the Rams were open as favorites

888
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: and it flipped and the Eagles one up being favorites. Right,

889
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: but the Rams are this is the tel game for

890
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: me with LA. So if they can go back to

891
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 3: the East Coast on back to back weeks and beat

892
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills, who, by the way, have played nobody. Okay,

893
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: Miami and New York are not teams.

894
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: I mean I also, by the way, if you are

895
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: new to this podcast, Matt despises the Buffalo Bills and

896
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: talks them down all the time.

897
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead.

898
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 3: And I actually had somebody on that because I ripped

899
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: them on the Daily Juice last night and people somebody

900
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: email me said, what's your problem with Judge Allen? And

901
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: so they got a big problem with Josh Allen can

902
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: get the balls out of a barn. But see So

903
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: my thing is this, So the Rams have played played

904
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: a higher level of competition, and it goes back to

905
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: my whole theory about winning on the road with the

906
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: fact that you can have the communication with McVeigh and

907
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: Jared Goff, which clearly worked against the Eagles. So if

908
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: my theory is right, the golf's gonna play much better

909
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: this year because no fans on the road. And I

910
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 3: don't think this team in Buffalo is all that good.

911
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 3: They're good, okay, but the Rams may be the best

912
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 3: team in the NFC West. Okay, we got to see

913
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: what happens with Seattle Ford. Nine ers are out of

914
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: the conversation and the Cardinals are too young to really

915
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: know exactly what they are only two games end of

916
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: the season. But to me, this is a show me game.

917
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: The Rams go there and win that game outright, the

918
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: Rams are gonna be in the conversation for everything. I

919
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 3: means winning it all, I mean everything. So I am

920
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: I'm fifty to fifty on this is taking the one

921
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: and a half points and going with the Rams.

922
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the consensus now is two and a

923
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: half for the lines and the Rams are getting fifty

924
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: two percent of our bets, so it's pretty much split

925
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: down the middle. Is not a game I'm gonna take.

926
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: I agree, though, with everything that you're saying. I do

927
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: think I like the Rams before the season started. I

928
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: thought they were underrated. I think your point about no

929
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: fans and McVeigh being able to talk to Goff your

930
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: theory is great. I think that really does make a difference.

931
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: I think if you're going to Buffalo and you're doing

932
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: it at a time where there are no fans and

933
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: it is not freezing, that's the time that you can

934
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: play in Buffalo.

935
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, once it gets late. I went to school there.

936
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: Once it gets late, it's insane, and the fans nuts

937
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: are absolutely nuts. It's a tough place to play. But

938
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: all that said, I am not quite as convinced that

939
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: the Bills are as fake as you will forever think

940
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: that they are. I get the Josh Allen, you know,

941
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: misses plenty of throws, but I think I'm not willing

942
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: to say I even like either side on this game.

943
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: For either want to win.

944
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: I feel like it's awesome.

945
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna wind up going with the

946
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: Chargers laying six and a half to the Panthers because

947
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: I do like it better than everything else. Let's very

948
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: quickly just touch on the remaining games, yep, and just

949
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: make sure we don't like it. Bengals getting five and

950
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: a half from the Eagles.

951
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: I mean, the Eagles have to win. But how in

952
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: the heck can you back Carson Wentz? Right now?

953
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

954
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: I mean, how could you back him?

955
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: I this has everything.

956
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: Even if the Eagles come out and again they just

957
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: lost Jalen Rager again, even if they come out and

958
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: they're on fire and they're good, the Bengals are off

959
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: essentially a mini bi because they played on Thursday. Burrow

960
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: is going to be a backdoor cover machine this year.

961
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: That's what, right, That's what you could just see. He

962
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: just has no fear. He's just gonna run around, throw

963
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: the ball. I could see the Eagles winning this game,

964
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: and this is sort of the spot where you could

965
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: buy them. But I can't back Carson Wentz. I can't

966
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: put one of our five coveted picks in for Carson Wentz.

967
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: I agree you there.

968
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: Washington getting seven and a half from the Browns.

969
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: No, just no, on every level. No, No, I'm not

970
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: going to trust the Browns. They're at home here. I'll

971
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: bet the Browns here and I'll take the Browns. Yeah,

972
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: but not in this contest. Not knowing that again, back

973
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: door seven and a half is wide open for the

974
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: Washington football team.

975
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I completely agree. I would take the Browns,

976
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: like if I'm forced to choose a side, but not

977
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: in the contest. The Jets plus ten and a half

978
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: in Indye.

979
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: Look, I have a long standing I'm not laying double

980
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: digits in this contest. It's just not worth it. In

981
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: my mind, ten and a half is too many points.

982
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 3: I don't care who it is. It's the NFL. It's

983
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: either a dog or a pass, and I'm not taking

984
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: that team that's the dog.

985
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: And that spread is rising after the Jets announced we

986
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: will be without any actual players this weekend. I mean

987
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: they legitimately announced their whole offense, their offensive line, everything,

988
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

989
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: It's too many points.

990
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: If I'm forced to choose side, I'm taking the Cults

991
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: because the Jets are truly abysmo. But I agree with you,

992
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: it's not a line that I want to go near

993
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: in this sort of contest.

994
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: Bucks playing six and a half in Denver, Boy, it's.

995
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 3: A cold weather city. With a real hot, warm weather team.

996
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: And is it cold in Denver right now?

997
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? And Denver not cold cold, but it's colder than Tampa.

998
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: Sure.

999
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: And Tom Brady's record in Tampa in Denver is horrific,

1000
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: and I mean, like capital h horrific. So you know,

1001
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: Jeff Driscolls the quarterback though it doesn't matter, I don't care.

1002
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: You know Courland Sutton's out right, yep, I did.

1003
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm not I'm not taking Tom Brady

1004
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: on the road in that in that building.

1005
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, either way, I don't want that game whatsoever.

1006
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: I just like to play Devil's advocation. Yeah, I agree.

1007
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: I don't like the way the Bucks offense look right now.

1008
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: I just don't. It just seems out of sort.

1009
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: And again I talked about this on the Fantasy on

1010
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: one of our Fantasy podcasts.

1011
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Jeff Driscoll's going to throw that ball. He don't care.

1012
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: He definitely is at the point and be like, I'll

1013
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: throw a couple.

1014
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: Home dogs in the NFL home dogs in the NFL.

1015
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 3: Not not with Brady's record in Denver nowhere.

1016
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: And early on we talked about this with the Titans,

1017
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: even though we were very clearly on the right side

1018
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: of that game that Denver just has a way of

1019
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: either winning or covering, at least early in the season

1020
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: when they're home. So definitely not a place that I

1021
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: want to go to. And I mentioned it at the

1022
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: start Packers getting three and a half in New Orleans.

1023
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to go near it.

1024
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: I into my head, I'm taking the Saints because they're

1025
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: at home, and I think people are a little bit

1026
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: too high on the Packers right now.

1027
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: And I think Devanta Adam is going to be out here,

1028
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: by the way, so I do think that that does

1029
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: make a difference.

1030
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: I think he is.

1031
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: There's no way to know that yet, but he misspracticed.

1032
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: I guess ow report that that it doesn't look real

1033
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 1: good for his availability. So you know, if that makes

1034
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: a difference to you find I still though, don't Michael

1035
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: Thomas is also going to be out.

1036
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it overfield goal. It's just it's.

1037
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to stay away game from me on

1038
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: either side. But I mean, if I had to play it,

1039
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: I'll take the Saints.

1040
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: Correct.

1041
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: That's where I'm okay, all right, So this was not

1042
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: that hard. You feel a lot better about this than

1043
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: I do. I feel good about two of the picks

1044
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: and the rest of them are like, okay, I lean

1045
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: that way, but I do you know.

1046
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: What I really like, Matt.

1047
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: I love that I have the Chiefs getting more than

1048
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: a field goal. That's what I'm going to watch that game,

1049
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: because there's never going to be a point.

1050
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna be like, well this this BET's dead, like million,

1051
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 2: right not with not with the Chiefs.

1052
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: It could be twenty. They could be down twenty at

1053
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: halftime and you could be like, yep, we're so we're good,

1054
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: We're so.

1055
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: Alive, all right.

1056
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: So our five official picks, and again follow us on Twitter,

1057
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: Dan Harris eighty at sports Talk Matt and go to

1058
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: Matt's live stream Sunday mornings at eleven am Eastern YouTube

1059
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: dot com slash Betting Pros. Subscribe, click the notification button.

1060
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: Matt will be talking about it and give player props.

1061
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: Again it's Thursday. We don't have all the player props,

1062
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: so we're not able to get them here, but we

1063
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: will give them. Matt will give them. I'll give him

1064
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: some of mine. But for our five picks as of

1065
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: right now, again we may change them. Are the Patriots

1066
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: laying five and a half to the Raiders.

1067
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: We both love that game. The Titans laying two and

1068
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: a half to the Vikings.

1069
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: We like that game. The Steelers laying three and a

1070
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: half to the Texans. I think Matt loves it. I

1071
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: like it, Chiefs laying three and a half getting three

1072
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: and a half pardon me from the Ravens.

1073
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: We both have talked ourselves very much into that game.

1074
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: And the Chargers laying six.

1075
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: And a half to the Panthers. Matt likes that game.

1076
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: I am very much of I don't really like any

1077
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: other game in this slate. I lean that way, so

1078
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: I'm good to go with it.

1079
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: All right. You feel good about.

1080
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: That, Matt? I do. I like those five plays?

1081
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: I do, all right?

1082
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 3: Man?

1083
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: All right, So this is great.

1084
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: I love doing this podcast because it's just fun and

1085
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Matt and I other than we send each other maybe

1086
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: a couple of minor leans early on to say, hey,

1087
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: I kind of like this game. We use this podcast

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Speaker 1: to discuss it. So that's all right. Again, Go to

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Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com because not all the odds. I tried

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Speaker 1: to give the updated odds when I could. That shows

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Speaker 1: you what the consensus lines are, and they're gonna move

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Speaker 1: the Draftking lines lock Wednesday. So they, as Matt had

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Speaker 1: said when we talked about earlier, they try to predict

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Speaker 1: what it's going before the line is actually there. So

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Speaker 1: usually when they said it it's not there, they predict

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Speaker 1: where it's gonna go. So sometimes you're gonna get much

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Speaker 1: better value. Sometimes it get worse value than what we

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Speaker 1: talk about here. And again you can see which way

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Speaker 1: the experts are going when they're picking the game, and

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Speaker 1: I think you can see the way Matt and I

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Speaker 1: have picked it. If you go on betting pros dot

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Speaker 1: com check it out. Also download the Betting Pros app.

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Speaker 2: It is awesome.

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Speaker 1: Actually most times I just make my picks from there

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Speaker 1: because I can do it, but it tracks your bets.

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Speaker 1: They just updated it a couple of weeks ago. It's

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Speaker 1: really awesome. Again, just download it from the app store.

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Speaker 1: It's great, all right. That is it for our Week

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Speaker 1: three show was a good one. I enjoyed it. Remember

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Speaker 1: check out the livestream on Sunday morning, YouTube dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash Betting Pros at eleven. Matt will give you more information.

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Speaker 1: But until then or until next week, rest easy and

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Speaker 1: good luck with all your bets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah,