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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. How are you hey,

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Speaker 1: Hope you had a great weekend. Hope you listen to

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Speaker 1: my guy Dan Byer yesterday or throughout last week as

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Speaker 1: he's filling up the radio hours. He's back with us today.

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Speaker 1: Excited to have dB along. Of course, you got Jason

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Speaker 1: Stewart as a producer and my guy I was Sam

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Speaker 1: on the ones and two is welcome in. Rick Buker

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Speaker 1: is going to join us about twenty five after the hour.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit. Caitlin Clark. Also a new

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Speaker 1: ad with Caitlin Clark, which I'll give it my thoughts on.

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Speaker 1: We got a big football trade. Is Jalen Ramsey's now

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. We got all the things to get to.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with Lebron James Rich Paul is lebron

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Speaker 1: James agent. Rich Paul was the guy who Lebron met,

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Speaker 1: I think selling jerseys out of the back of his car, right,

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Speaker 1: so he's part of you know, started from the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Now we're here, and he had this statement to ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Lebron wants to compete for a championship. Paul told ESPN.

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Speaker 1: He knows the Lakers are building for the future. He

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Speaker 1: understands that, but he values a realistic chance at winning

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Speaker 1: at all. We're very appreciative of the partnership that we

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Speaker 1: had for eight years with Genie and Rob. Lincoln considered

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Speaker 1: the Lakers as a critical part of his career. We

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Speaker 1: understand the difficulty in winning now while preparing for the future.

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Speaker 1: We do want to evaluate what's best for Lebron at

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Speaker 1: this stage of his life and career. He wants to

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Speaker 1: make every season he has left count and the Lakers

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Speaker 1: understand that supportive of what of want what's best for him.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you how that lands with me one

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Speaker 1: word poorly, poorly, And there are lots of different ways

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Speaker 1: to explain why it lands poorly, but here's the easiest.

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Speaker 1: You have to match up your actions with your words.

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Speaker 1: If Lebron wants to win a championship, Well, then why

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Speaker 1: would you opt into a deal that pays you fifty

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Speaker 1: three million dollars? Because ears out really works. If you

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Speaker 1: want to win, you know, you got to take less

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Speaker 1: so that you can pay more to go out and

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Speaker 1: get guys on the free agent market. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: if you want to guarantee yourself a big fat paycheck,

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Speaker 1: what you can do is you can backload a contract,

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Speaker 1: do it as a player only option, and you play

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Speaker 1: a year with the Lakers and oh yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if if it doesn't work out, you want to retire,

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Speaker 1: you know, you had them by their way out of

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Speaker 1: an opt out or whatever, or you go somewhere next year.

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Speaker 1: There's a million different things you can do. But you

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Speaker 1: can say you're appreciative of Genie and Rob Polinka. Your

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Speaker 1: actions are far different because if you're really appreciative, why

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Speaker 1: would you release the statement? If you really want to

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Speaker 1: win a championship, why'd you release the statement? How it

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Speaker 1: lands on me is poorly because it feels like the

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Speaker 1: Lakers and Lebron has talked about it and he always

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Speaker 1: couches it with you. I understand. Now we're building around Luca.

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Speaker 1: This is Lebron James and rich Ball pouting and trying

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Speaker 1: to exert some sort of leverage that doesn't actually exist.

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Speaker 1: This is no different than Lebron when he was leaving Miami,

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Speaker 1: when he was leaving Cleveland the second time leaking out

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Speaker 1: there that could be interested in the San Antonio Spurs

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Speaker 1: who had no interest in Lebron James. Because you can say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're really appreciative, but the reality is, are you right?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Let me make this clear, over the past year,

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Speaker 1: just the past year alone, We'll make it thirteen months

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Speaker 1: a year. Is that? Okay? Over the past year, the

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Speaker 1: Lakers have hired a guy he co hosted a podcast

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Speaker 1: with as the head coach of the Lakers, and look,

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Speaker 1: I get it, I'm not that different from the JJ

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Speaker 1: Reddick higher but it's the head coach of the Lakers

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Speaker 1: and they hired him. Okay. They also drafted Bronnie James

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Speaker 1: and then all made statements like Bronnie had earned the

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Speaker 1: right to be a second round pick when that's not

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Speaker 1: even close too accurate. Then they played Bronnie the first

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Speaker 1: They overpaid for Anthony Davis. Why he was a Rich

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Speaker 1: They overplayed for Russell Westbrook, and then midway through his

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Speaker 1: first year with the Lakers, Lebron just did what Lebron

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. So we overpaid for Anthony Davis, we trade

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Speaker 1: play Brownie James. All of these things would not have

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Speaker 1: a million other things. And you have fifty three and

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Speaker 1: want to win. And the only thing you say, after

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Speaker 1: having the opportunity to opt out of that rework your

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Speaker 1: is that's great, but we're going to keep our options open.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like the least no matter. You can say

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Speaker 1: you're grateful, but it's words, it's actions not words. And

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Speaker 1: and what you have done and what the Lakers have

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Speaker 1: Remember of Lebron's seasons with the Lakers, how many of

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Speaker 1: games does he played in the regular season? You remember

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Speaker 1: when he started playing a ton of games in the

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Speaker 1: regular season, that was the year he was going for

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Speaker 1: Lebron about he would Lebron I get He's the most selfish,

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Speaker 1: unselfish guy there is. Yeah, he likes to pass the ball,

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Speaker 1: but he likes to pass the ball because he wants

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Speaker 1: it to be about Lebron. His agent tries to make

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Speaker 1: this about leverage that they don't have. Look, if you

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Speaker 1: really want to challenge Lakers to going out and making

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Speaker 1: what the Lakers do. He's willing to take less money

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Speaker 1: if their plan makes sense. That's not what he says.

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Speaker 1: He says, we're gonna take your money and then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna think about what we want to do in the future.

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Speaker 1: And what this does is it sours so many people

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Speaker 1: on Lebron James when, as I've stated previously, in comparison

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Speaker 1: to other star athletes, right know, off the court, nonsense, none, zero.

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Speaker 1: But there is a transactional nature to how he approaches

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Speaker 1: he got to LA and throughout this process, you can play.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna play eight years in LA. Lebron James plays

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers, is not a Laker because what Laker

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Speaker 1: fans want, what Laker fans desire is Lebron James wants

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Speaker 1: to do one thing before he calls it a career,

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Speaker 1: win another championship with the Lakers. And what he said

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Speaker 1: we can do it with the Lakers, So why are

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Speaker 1: we paying you fifty three million dollars bud?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, if you don't think Luca is

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Speaker 1: good enough, then how did Luca get to the finals

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Speaker 1: without you? The whole thing is a massive contradiction and

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Speaker 1: a statement of being ungrateful. And there's lots of things

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Speaker 1: The number one thing that turns me off in my

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Speaker 1: There are no perfect human beings. Either we see the

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Speaker 1: negative things. And if you're appreciative of the positive, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that the negatives don't exist. But at least

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Speaker 1: it gives respect for somebody working through whatever they're working

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Speaker 1: just for a guy that has done so many of

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Speaker 1: the right things. This statement is so about the wrong

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Speaker 1: things to me, Byer, what do you think of Rich

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Speaker 1: Paul's statement and how it lands on you as somebody

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Speaker 1: who's not from La Okay, but you know LA sports fans,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this topic is so many different ways to tackle it,

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Speaker 3: and I am not opposite yours. If you're at noon

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Speaker 3: When I read it, it felt like Rich Paul was

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Speaker 3: trying to take the narrative away from the Lakers. And

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Speaker 3: how I read it was prior to the team acquiring

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Speaker 3: Luka Doncicch, it had been all about Lebron stuff that

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Speaker 3: now Luca comes along, and I'm sure the Lakers and

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Speaker 3: Lebron had discussions about how things are going to go.

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Speaker 3: But if there was no Luca, why wouldn't Lebron just

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Speaker 3: sign another one on one deal, get max money for

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Speaker 3: And I don't mean charade that it's a farce, but

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Speaker 3: that's what he did last offseason, had the one and one,

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Speaker 3: going to get his fifty million anywhere else and at

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Speaker 3: least this offseason, and now it allows teams a year

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Speaker 3: to go next. But I just took the statement, Doug

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Speaker 3: is them stealing the narrative of the Lakers saying that

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Speaker 3: they don't need Lebron anymore. And I compared it to

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Speaker 3: a marriage. There are different types of marriages that span

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Speaker 3: and madly in love for fifty years. There are marriages

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Speaker 3: deal not necessarily great for us. We're not interested. So

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Speaker 3: Lebron will opt in, get his money, and then he

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Speaker 3: can figure out where he's going to play next and

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Speaker 3: have his farewell to her.

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Speaker 4: Then that's how I took this statement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up the marriage analogy. It's great if

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Speaker 1: it's the difference in if you've been married once or

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Speaker 1: And if you've been married three times, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know this one compares to the other one's wedding

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Speaker 1: day whatever, you've been married one time, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's literally the it's the culminating moment of two lives

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating. So here's a dude who's been with a

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Speaker 1: to him, there's not the emotional connection to the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: But for the Lakers, there's an emotional connection to Lakers. Remember,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers used to play in Inglewood. Inglewood was known

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Speaker 1: Hey, what up with you? Doug got Leab Show, Fox

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Speaker 5: What did you love?

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Speaker 1: Every Monday on the Doug Gottlieb Show, we go around

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Speaker 1: five off the tee, two fifty to the hole. So

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Speaker 1: Luke Getsy's they're on the on the green. So I

429
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Speaker 1: pull out the three wood and I'm thinking, I mean,

430
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Speaker 1: the best I ever hit a three wood, And you

431
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Speaker 1: know I used to tee off with the three wood

432
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Speaker 1: because I couldn't hit the driver. So like you know,

433
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Speaker 1: like two forty is crushing it. When I'm slinging, it's

434
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Speaker 1: like two thirty is great for a three wood for me,

435
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Speaker 1: great when I could hit it straight. So he's two

436
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Speaker 1: fifty to the to the to the to the flag

437
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Speaker 1: and it looks like they're putting in and all right,

438
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Speaker 1: So I get up. I addressed the ball. I hit it.

439
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Speaker 1: It lands like three feet behind him. Wow, yeah, so one.

440
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean I crushed it too. It was straight three.

441
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: I nearly killed a guy who was a coach at

442
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: the Packers who would look really bad. He's fine, and

443
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: he was really cool. I'm like, oh my god, what

444
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Speaker 1: did I do? But I love I mean, it's that

445
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: everybody knows ever play golf, right, that one swing that

446
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Speaker 1: makes you like, yes, it's nice today. When we're done,

447
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: guess what I'm going to do. I'm going to hit balls.

448
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

449
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 3: I would rather have your situation than be the one

450
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Speaker 3: to wait for them to completely clear and then chunk

451
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Speaker 3: at fifty yards because that is normally what happens.

452
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Speaker 1: That's exactly I was. They were like, hey, don't worry

453
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Speaker 1: about it. We were taking too long, and he was like, no, no,

454
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Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to be a jerk. I thought I

455
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Speaker 1: had no chance of getting it to the green There

456
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: zero good work anyway, Jase dou what'd you left in

457
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Speaker 1: the weekend?

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Speaker 6: You know the Dodgers have taken I think seven of

459
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Speaker 6: the West nine and.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna go real sports here? My goodness.

461
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Speaker 6: Here's a good news though for Dodger fans. And I

462
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 6: do want to promote Ryan Berschinger, Bo Bentz and Monty Bolangios.

463
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 6: They do these Sick Dodgers podcast check it out rate

464
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: review Sick, and what they're going to probably say in

465
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 6: the next podcast is that the Dodgers are doing something

466
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 6: that they haven't done a whole lot of the last

467
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Speaker 6: twelve years, and that they're just beating up on teams

468
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 6: they should beat. The Dodgers have always had this i'm

469
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 6: going to play down to my opponent thing, especially in

470
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Speaker 6: the postseason. So they're beating teams. They just got off

471
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Speaker 6: of the Royals. I think they took two or three

472
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Speaker 6: over the weekend show. Shal hay O Tawny pitched two innings.

473
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Speaker 6: He threw the ball one hundred and two miles an hour.

474
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 6: It's the fastest pitch he's ever thrown as a baseball player.

475
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 6: So the Dodgers are getting healthy, they're bidding teams that

476
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Speaker 6: they're supposed to, They're in first place. There really is

477
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 6: nothing to complain about. And trust me, if there was,

478
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Speaker 6: I would that.

479
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: I can second that he will complain about anything. That

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Speaker 1: it all right, Sam, I love it, Sam, we got.

481
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Speaker 7: I love how little mine I paid to this Jake

482
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 7: Paul Hulu Caesar Chavez Junior fight. I paid no mind

483
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Speaker 7: to it at all. I heard about it Thursday or Friday,

484
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 7: and then I existed through the weekend. I lived through

485
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Speaker 7: the weekend and I completely forgot about it. And I

486
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 7: was actually here at FSR yesterday Sunday doing afternoon evening shows,

487
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Speaker 7: and I don't remember anybody even talking about it. So yeah,

488
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 7: I woke up today and then I read about the

489
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Speaker 7: result and all the feedback it's been getting negatively, and uh, yeah,

490
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Speaker 7: it's good.

491
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Speaker 1: Good that I was it yesterday. It was a Saturday night.

492
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Speaker 4: It was Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: It was at the UFC fights Ron. I watched those.

494
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably a better product. It was going the the

495
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 7: Jake Paul Caesar Shaves Junior fight was down in Anaheim

496
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Speaker 7: at the Honda Center. You know, it's a couple hour

497
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Speaker 7: drives away, or you know, hour or two drive away,

498
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Speaker 7: and I was completely oblivious to it.

499
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Speaker 1: I love that, m I like that as well. There

500
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Speaker 1: was one of the fights, one of the three rounders

501
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: the UFC was amazing. I'm trying to think which one was.

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Speaker 4: Since when have you been a UFC guy, Doug.

503
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Speaker 1: I'm not. I look, I'm not gonna sit here and

504
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Speaker 1: lie and tell you I can quot chapter and verse UFC.

505
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: But a bunch of my guys are and I like

506
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: watching them. I just don't know nothing about it. And

507
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: I like the when they beat the crap out of

508
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Speaker 1: each other. And I love the striker versus a grappler

509
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: and if the guy get him to the ground. And

510
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I enjoyed it, enjoyed it like good fight. Bye.

511
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: Let's get to what we hated. So the end of

512
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: the aang, it's a good and the bad. It's the

513
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: Dan Byer and the JSTU. Right, you have the love

514
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: and the hate. Let's start with our resident hater j STU,

515
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: which eight for the weekend.

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Speaker 6: I just picked up a bonus hate over the last hour.

517
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 6: So one of the things that I just can't stand.

518
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Speaker 6: As a guy who's been in this business for thirty years,

519
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: I don't like off the air take guy at work,

520
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 6: the guy who off the air just fills your ear

521
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 6: with takes and you're like, Okay, I do this for

522
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 6: a living. I don't need to have it out with

523
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 6: you and do a take session with you off air.

524
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: Sam has been doing that to me for the first

525
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Speaker 6: ninety minute of this show, and his take is contrary

526
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 6: to Doug's take on MWNBA expansion. And so now Sam

527
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 6: has filled two breaks with his very like passionate take

528
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Speaker 6: on the WNBA is in a good place and they

529
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Speaker 6: should expand. And I'm like, why don't you go to

530
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 6: the air with this? Yeah, Doug has talked about it

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Speaker 6: twice now and Sam has not not well on the air.

532
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the name on the show is a Doug Gyley show.

533
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Speaker 1: Wall Listen. This is the perfect opportunity you can hate

534
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Speaker 1: on my take, say I hate Doug's taken. Here's why.

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Speaker 7: Let me just say this. I will say that the

536
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 7: Valkyries are one of the expansion teams. They're the thirteenth

537
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Speaker 7: team in the WNBA, and they're doing very well. They

538
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Speaker 7: have a lot of money. Fan sports been wild. So

539
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, expansion into San Francisco, into Toronto, I

540
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 7: think that's a very very good thing. Dan brought up that,

541
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Speaker 7: like Detroit and what was the other teams to getting

542
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 7: another Yeah, Cleveland, going back to these rocks tread cities,

543
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Speaker 7: and that's you know, you're you're you are banking on

544
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 7: the Golden goose, Caitlyn Clark keeping this excitement going for

545
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 7: the next ten years. So maybe there's some trepidation there.

546
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 7: But the Valkyries are a good team, and so they're

547
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 7: an example of expansion working in the WNBA so far.

548
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: So I just got to keep those takes out.

549
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: This is a totally cynical take, Sam, Yeah, but I

550
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: can tell you what I actually believe is taking place. Yes,

551
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: when you expand, Okay, for people to understand, I think

552
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: they do all those fees to get an expansion team,

553
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: where do those fees.

554
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: Go to the other teams?

555
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Correct? So those owners that year after year after year

556
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: are losing money, it's like, hey, we got you, we

557
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: got three new teams. Then it will balance your books

558
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: for those three years, make you look far more profitable.

559
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: But Ultimately, though, you're still going to be losing money.

560
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: And I think that again, the amount of money you're

561
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: going to lose is probably bigger because what people say

562
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: as well, this will allow us to get a new

563
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: TV deal whatever, like yeah, but with every deal you're

564
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to spend more money on the players, and

565
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: the players even now ratio wise, percentage wise, make a

566
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: gargantuan some consider the profits aren't there. So I think

567
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of phony accounting, is what's gonna happen.

568
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: I hear you on that.

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Speaker 7: I would just say say this, like do you think

570
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Speaker 7: that twelve or thirteen teams is enough for the WNBA?

571
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: I guys feel like they need more teams?

572
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 7: Like are you just there's too much familiarity with playing

573
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 7: the same teams over and over again?

574
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Speaker 4: Like I think six woke its good?

575
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: So you've woken up going like, man, you know I

576
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: need more WNBA.

577
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Speaker 4: Team's right, baby? Every day?

578
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't say I'm there.

579
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Speaker 3: God Cleveland there, Yeah, Cleveland lost their team because they

580
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: couldn't find an owner back in the day, so nobody

581
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Speaker 3: wanted to buy them.

582
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Speaker 1: So they just nobody wants to sign up to lose money.

583
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Speaker 4: The money.

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Speaker 1: I'm good.

585
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 7: The Valkyrie is a part of the Warriors ownership team

586
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 7: and rights they.

587
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: Need to write off. They make a lot of money.

588
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: What do you got there, Dan Byer.

589
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: So, Doug, this is a story that so many of

590
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 3: us talked about last week, and as Jason Stewart likes

591
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: to point out, we just forget about things so quickly

592
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: we move on from them. And the Kittel Martes situation

593
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: is one that Mike Carmon and I talked about yesterday

594
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: on our show, and I wanted to talk about it

595
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: because I think people have moved past it. And the

596
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: reason why I don't think people should move past it

597
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: is because of what it's done to katl Marte. So

598
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: this whole thing that he was basically a victim of

599
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: from the fan saying the line, which turned out to

600
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Speaker 3: be a mom joke. It just you did it to

601
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: the wrong person, and I feel that there should be

602
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: some consequences, but nobody realizes what Kittel Marte has been through.

603
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: Over the last four games since that has happened, He's

604
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: two for sixteen. He's homeward twice on homeward Saturday, on

605
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: homeward Sunday. But this is also a guy who struck

606
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Speaker 3: out three times in his return to Arizona, and everybody

607
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: was giving him a standing you know, ovation, walking and

608
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: welcoming him back with open arms. And while I'm sure

609
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: it's appreciated, it can't necessarily feel comfortable that this is

610
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: continually now being brought up in as part of the conversation.

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00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: In that game on Friday against the White Hot floor

612
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 3: to Marlins, could tell Martes struck out three times in

613
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: that game? How many times this season has cut? Could

614
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: tell Martes struck out three times in a game prior

615
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: to Friday, zero correct, none, struck out twice on Wednesday.

616
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: This has obviously affected him, and we forget about things

617
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: and how things move on. But then because we move

618
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: on from him, but the standing ovation that he gets

619
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Speaker 3: on Friday still probably not comfortable. White Sox putting out

620
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Speaker 3: a statement, putting out on the scoreboard on Wednesday probably

621
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Speaker 3: not comfortable. So that one interaction for people that want

622
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: to downplay it, It's now obviously affected him. He's was

623
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: hitting like three twenty now he's down to like three

624
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: h five in this recent slump. This obviously has had

625
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: something to do with his play, and I don't think

626
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: that we should forget about it and move on from it.

627
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: What should what should the punishment be? Though, Dan, when

628
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: you don't know, right, like.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I understand.

630
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Speaker 1: I think it's a It's a really hard one, right

631
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: because if you watch the video, the guy clearly had

632
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: no idea about Martine. I like, unless he was really

633
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: playing it off.

634
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 3: It's one of those thing like, yeah, where there's there's

635
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: a consequence because of what happened. I used yesterday with Mike,

636
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: and Mike didn't love this analogy, but I used just

637
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: of running a stop sign. How many times do you

638
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: run a stop sign and not get busted? Well, the

639
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: time that you hit someone on a bike, you know. Yeah, Like,

640
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: so there's got to be some sort of penalty. Even

641
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: though it was thought to be an innocent mom joke,

642
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't like it has obviously affected him and it's

643
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Speaker 3: hurt Marte. I feel some sort of you know, donation,

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Speaker 3: some way to work with either the White Sox or

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Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks or major League Baseball to try to get yourself.

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't be banned for life for it. It was

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Speaker 3: an indefinite ban, But I do think that there's something

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Speaker 3: needs to be done and By all accounts, the fan

649
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Speaker 3: was remorseful when he found out about the situation. Martea

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Speaker 3: has even said that he prays for him. There seems

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Speaker 3: to be a way that they can bridge this, and

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Speaker 3: I think if you do that, you should be good.

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Speaker 3: But to just think like ah Marte is soft and

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Speaker 3: move on from it. This obviously has had an effect

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Speaker 3: on him and and the effected the Diamondbacks as a team.

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Speaker 1: Assumingly, Okay, Sam, you want to get tweet you hate.

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Speaker 7: Tomorrow is the first day of July, and this time

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Speaker 7: last week we were reacting to Game seven of the

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Speaker 7: w or the of the NBA Finals, I should say,

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Speaker 7: and it's tomorrow's July?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 7: Does anybody ever make the argument that July is the

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Speaker 7: best sports month? No, they don't, because it's the worst

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Speaker 7: sports month. Because we're now we have shifted past the

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Speaker 7: NBA Finals. There's no more men's basketball we do. There's

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Speaker 7: a bit of a silver lining here. Will cognitively restructure

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Speaker 7: and I will focus on my afternoon w NBA games.

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Speaker 7: But the month July is like, it's a weird, sort

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Speaker 7: of tweener month.

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Speaker 6: You get to watch the Valkyries.

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Speaker 7: I get to watch the Valkyrie I get to watch

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Speaker 7: baseball that doesn't.

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Speaker 1: So you so you hate the month of July.

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Speaker 7: The month of July and sports month is a tough

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Speaker 7: one to get through because we are yes, we're ramping

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Speaker 7: up for the NFL and college football, but it's just

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Speaker 7: it's slow.

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Speaker 3: To ask you a question. What do you think of August?

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Speaker 3: Like why why isn't it August?

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Speaker 7: They're one A, one B Because I would say this,

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Speaker 7: maybe the baseball is a little bit more meaningful. August

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00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 7: gets saved because first week of college football anticipation. But

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Speaker 7: it's also like people say, like I love Illinois as

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Speaker 7: the state, Well, you love Chicago because the rest of

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Speaker 7: Illinois is nothing like it is. It's Chicago, And I

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Speaker 7: feel like that would be like calbo Oasis would like

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Speaker 7: a word, trust me that What about Rockford?

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Speaker 4: What about Rockford Illinois'?

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Speaker 1: You're down playing rock Thanks?

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Speaker 4: But no things?

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Speaker 3: Sorry about Carbondale Cities?

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Speaker 4: Sorry my quad cities? A normal lean? Sorry about that?

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Speaker 1: I mean is real quick?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I I hate this act of Rich Paul. I

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Speaker 1: hate the act of Rich Paul. Like usually when you

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Speaker 1: get to the end of somebody's career, okay, usually it's

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Speaker 1: like when old people who are really really grumpy, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't like him. Like my grandma, Grandma Bernstein, Like,

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Speaker 1: she went that nice for a long time, then she

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Speaker 1: got really old and she was the sweetest old lady ever.

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Speaker 1: Here we are at the end of Lebron James's career,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, Lebron has bounced team to team. Yeah, Lebron

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Speaker 1: has set up super teams. Hey, Lebron hasn't always He's

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Speaker 1: had some ups, he says now generally though it's hard

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Speaker 1: to pick apart. He's had an unbelievable run, unbelievablerun He's

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Speaker 1: the all time leaning scores won for NBA, times, won

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Speaker 1: four m vps. He is, in the conversation, the greatest

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Speaker 1: player of all time. So what do you do in

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Speaker 1: one weekend? You wipe out any sort of good will,

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Speaker 1: any sort of good will and oh yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you kind of make Lebron look petulant, right, because again

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Speaker 1: I don't know what their intent was, but how it

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Speaker 1: feels to us is I want to win a championship,

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Speaker 1: but you clearly think Lucas better. So I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: elsewhere because I like being the guy and I want

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Speaker 1: to be on it, like Hey, dude, if you want

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Speaker 1: to be on a championship team and you're really the

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Speaker 1: greatest player of all time, then I don't know, why

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Speaker 1: don't you figure out how to make this team a

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Speaker 1: championship team. But the messaging is far different. And then

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Speaker 1: when you couple it into the they made him draft Bronny,

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Speaker 1: they made him you know, hey, we want to hire

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick. That's my guy. Like all these things where

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Speaker 1: they acquiesced to right, they never said a word when

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Speaker 1: Lebron James showed up on the bench with the goblet

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Speaker 1: of wine back when he's hurt, like it is like

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Speaker 1: everybody in the organization was burst. Nobody said anything publicly, right,

729
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Speaker 1: but you just take all the good will and dump

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Speaker 1: it out. Unlike Kobe, who was a petulant brat for

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Speaker 1: a good amount of time, but late in his career,

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Speaker 1: people were like, you know, I love Cobe Cobs. You know,

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Speaker 1: he just changed because he knew it was his last rade.

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Speaker 1: He just he went very good at the end, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't act like he was very good at the end.

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Speaker 1: And because of it, and of course because there's undiminally death,

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Speaker 1: Kobe is beloved and Lebron I hope he goes in

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Speaker 1: place somewhere else, because if he does, most hardened true

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Speaker 1: Laker fans be like he on a Laker. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if he played eight years, we won one title.

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Speaker 1: There was a bunch of disappointment, a lot of noise,

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Speaker 1: and not a lot of substance. Crazy how one trade,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the great traits in the history

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Speaker 1: of the sport. Rob Polinka pulled it off and once

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Speaker 1: it met by by by Lebron James oh Man, I

746
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Speaker 1: could be next. I could be traded. Yeah, he is

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00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: jealous of Luca and Luca's treatment when he has acted

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Speaker 1: in this entitled way for so long, and he's entitled

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Speaker 1: because he's been great. But I don't think this is

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Speaker 1: how you end an illustrious career. And that's eleven eight.

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Speaker 1: App Stug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So if you're

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Speaker 1: old enough to remember the nineties, you're old enough to

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Speaker 1: remember when the NHL expanded and when NASCAR expanded. Right,

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Speaker 1: the NHL used to be Canada and it did have

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Speaker 1: the La Kings. You did have some other teams, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't have the Alis Stars. They didn't have the

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Speaker 1: Anaheim Mighty Ducks now the Ducks, the Atlanta Thrashers. Poor

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Speaker 1: a little liquor for the Atlanta Thrashers, the Phoenix Coyotetes

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Speaker 1: which are now the Utah or are the wooly mammoths

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Speaker 1: or something, Yeah mammoth ye yeah. The point is that

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Speaker 1: in the nineties, Wayne Gretzky moved to La and the

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Speaker 1: NHL was on fire. In nineteen ninety three, I was

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Speaker 1: at Lake Havasu. Lake Havasu is not actually at lake,

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Speaker 1: but regardless is the Colorado River where it's dammed up

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Speaker 1: but not actually a lake anyway. And allegedly that's old

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Speaker 1: London Bridge that they transported. But I thought London Bridge

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Speaker 1: was falling down, falling down, falling down. That didn't matter. Okay,

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Speaker 1: point is I was on the lake looking good, untanned,

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Speaker 1: sunburned right in high school jet skis back with the

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Speaker 1: jet skis were like stand up jet skis. They were

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Speaker 1: a lot harder back then. Okay, water skiing, this is

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Speaker 1: before people wakesurfed and everybody got off the lake, not

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Speaker 1: for not for a of a of Haboob, which is

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Speaker 1: a desert thunderstore. No. No, it was for the La Kings

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Speaker 1: playing in the Stanley Cup finals and everywhere Getzki went,

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Speaker 1: arenas were packed, things were celebrated. It was on Sports Center.

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Speaker 1: So what did the NHL do. Hey, we're making money,

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Speaker 1: let's make more, let's expand. And now they've had to

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Speaker 1: move these teams around. It's been a little embarrassing, but

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Speaker 1: generally the NHL has found its footing. Well, I take

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Speaker 1: you to the WNBA where they want to expand, add

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Speaker 1: what four teams. This is the WNBA that moved from

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Speaker 1: big arenas to smaller arenas that had to have a

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Speaker 1: salary cap, and they finally got it all under control

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Speaker 1: and they went from just hemorrhaging hemorrhaging money every year

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Speaker 1: and losing teams to all right, they'd stabilized. It's still

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Speaker 1: lost like forty to fifty million last year as a league,

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Speaker 1: but generally things are peaking up because of Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't see it. I don't see the

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Speaker 1: expansion four teams make it so all fourteen teams are thriving.

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Speaker 1: Less is more packed arenas, because what they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: and like, Look, whoever buys a franchise is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to throw in a bunch of money. That money will

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Speaker 1: be spread around, so these owners that have been losing

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Speaker 1: money are finally gonna have some money in their pockets.

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Speaker 1: But the game will become more watered down. More water

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Speaker 1: down means and are there other good women's professional players? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you know what they also are. They're also foreign born,

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00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: which means you're gonna have no different than the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You have more foreign players, which are harder to relate to,

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Speaker 1: harder to buy into, don't draw nearly as many people,

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Speaker 1: and they're not named Kaitlin Clark. Okay, I'm not telling

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Speaker 1: you that the WNBA can't start to go. Hey, we

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Speaker 1: got some we got some leverags. Let's get better and

808
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: better deals. We got some people watching. Okay, but you

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Speaker 1: got to build around Kaitlin Clark. And the second you

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Speaker 1: water it down, maybe you make Caitlin Clark into a

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Speaker 1: bigger star because she's going against lesser competition. But more

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Speaker 1: likely there's just more teams that people don't want to watch.

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Speaker 1: That's the got Leeb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: We got a bunch to talk about with Rick Buker.

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Speaker 1: He joins us every Monday. He knows all things NBA.

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Speaker 1: He works for Fox Sports one. You can just work

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Speaker 1: at Fox sports dot com. Let me start with Lebron

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Speaker 1: and the Lakers, right, so let me get this. That's right.

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Speaker 1: He wants to win a championship. He's going to opt

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Speaker 1: into a deal that pays him fifty three million dollars,

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Speaker 1: but he wants to win a championship. And it feels

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Speaker 1: like that statement made by Rich Paul is saying we

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00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: can only win a championship elsewhere. How does it land

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Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 8: It lands yes, well, I agree with your the the contradiction,

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Speaker 8: and I just look at it as trying to maintain

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Speaker 8: leverage for what that leverage may be with the Lakers

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Speaker 8: or elsewhere. I think it's more appearance sake, Like if

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Speaker 8: you present it as Lebron still wants to win championships

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Speaker 8: and he's looking for how can he still win championships?

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Speaker 2: And it takes the focus.

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Speaker 8: Off what you just said, which is and the question

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Speaker 8: that most people would have, which is, well, if you

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Speaker 8: want to win championships, how can you opt into a

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00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 8: contract that is going to pay you more than your

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Speaker 8: worth at least on the court right now. We can

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Speaker 8: get into the box office and the draw and all that,

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Speaker 8: but as far as championships are concerned, if that's first

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Speaker 8: and foremost your priority, then opting into that contract should

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Speaker 8: not have been the priority. And I don't know that

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Speaker 8: it's anything more than just trying to maintain this perspective

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Speaker 8: that the problem with whatever whatever problem the Lakers have,

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Speaker 8: Lebron is not the problem. It's it's that they don't

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Speaker 8: have enough around him. And I think that that at

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Speaker 8: this stage, combined with Luka, Dancic and Austin Reeves, the

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Speaker 8: way they're currently constructed is just a fallacy. Lebron has

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Speaker 8: a hand in what they have done, both good and bad,

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Speaker 8: over the last couple of years, and he's going to

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Speaker 8: be a year older, so I just I think this

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Speaker 8: is trying to kew perf so that Lebron doesn't look

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Speaker 8: like he's the one holding things back.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that will work?

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00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 8: I think I think now as the Lakers won, now

855
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Speaker 8: that they have their guy in Luka, Danci's the guy

856
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 8: that they're building around going forward, I don't they didn't

857
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 8: have much choice. Was this was Lebron's option to opt

858
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 8: into this contract, and and I don't know that they

859
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 8: really care all that much what happens a year from now.

860
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 8: If it's the money comes off that he's getting paid,

861
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 8: then I think that they will they will take that.

862
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 8: It's about the best case scenario right now, because you're

863
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 8: not going to trade him. There is no value in

864
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 8: trading Lebron James. Matching the contract. Any place that he

865
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 8: would go would be giving up way too many pieces

866
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 8: for a guy who's going to be a free agent

867
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 8: next year. And I'm sure is giving no assurances to

868
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 8: anyone that that he's going to stay longer, as if

869
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 8: you would want to do that. I mean, that's just

870
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 8: the hard reality is.

871
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: And I think I saw someone else.

872
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 8: Reference Bobby Marx might a referenced like, you know, if

873
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 8: he's a free agent, you got twenty nine teams coming

874
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 8: after him. I'm not sure that that's the case at

875
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 8: this stage. I think there are teams that are like,

876
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: you know what, we've got our plan, we're moving on.

877
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 8: Would love to have him. I don't even know if

878
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 8: you you know, you could get him at a minimum contract.

879
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 8: Lebron just comes with a lot of other things, And

880
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 8: so I think there's there would be a market, but

881
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 8: I don't know that it would be a.

882
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: Bonanza, you know.

883
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: I we'll talk about this a little bit. We talked

884
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: about this a little in the podcast, but I just

885
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: feel it lands on me as so ungrateful. It just does.

886
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: And here's what I mean. It's like you said, like, well,

887
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: if you if you want to win a championship, okay,

888
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: opt out, sign it to your deal, backload the deal

889
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: to where it's a player option or a team option

890
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: or whatever, and take less this year, try and win,

891
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: and then if you don't like it. I mean, if

892
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: it's about money, you go make money next year or

893
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: somewhere else. But hold on, dude. We hired the coach

894
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: who you did a podcast with, We drafted your son,

895
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: We guaranteed your son four years. We played him, yeah,

896
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: his first game when he should have been nowhere near

897
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: the NBA. We've we have been over backwards. We traded

898
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: for Anthony Davis, gave up the kitchen, saying not because

899
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: we didn't want Anthony Davis, but because you want to happen.

900
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, this is a it's a power play,

901
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit of pouting of what do

902
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: you mean you've moved on to Luca. We're the guy here,

903
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: and I just I feel like it feels ungrateful. And

904
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: Jays two said, we've talked about this all the time.

905
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: I know he's played for the Lakers for seven years,

906
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: but especially with this, and if he goes and plays

907
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: somewhere else at the end of next year, even if

908
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: it's Cleveland, he's not going to be seen as a

909
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: Laker by Laker fans.

910
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 8: Right. Well, I'm surprised at your surprise because I just

911
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 8: looked through that.

912
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: I mean, when you've always.

913
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 8: Been accommodated, as Lebron has always accommodated.

914
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: This has always worked.

915
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 8: And I don't know that he has demonstrated a great

916
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 8: deal of gratitude in any case. He has approached as

917
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 8: if it is his first right to get these things

918
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 8: and to be treated a certain way. I mean, like

919
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 8: I still you know the way he left Miami. He

920
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 8: goes to Miami, he gets over the hump, and he

921
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 8: didn't get Pat a heads up, like Pat didn't know

922
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 8: it was coming when it was coming, and uh, and

923
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 8: the same thing in Cleveland when he left there the

924
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 8: first time, it was like at the last second, Rich

925
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 8: Paul called the Calves said, Hey, yeah, well you know

926
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 8: we're not. We're not We're leaving, and it puts them

927
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 8: at an incredible disadvantage. So I, I guess I just

928
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,959
Speaker 8: take it for granted that that's the way that he's

929
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 8: going to operate.

930
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: But I agree with you.

931
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 8: I certainly think that this puts it puts far more

932
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 8: stress on the on the Los Angeles Lakers than I

933
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 8: would think is necessary.

934
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's move away around the lake here. Jannison tatakoupo,

935
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: Where are he in the Bucks?

936
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 8: I mean, I honestly, I think he's he's he is

937
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 8: observing what they are and aren't doing. He wants to

938
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 8: know that they're still trying to make the team better.

939
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: He wants to know that there's a plan there.

940
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 8: But this idea that you know, he's he's got.

941
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: One foot off the door.

942
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 8: I just haven't gotten any indication of that.

943
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: I think that's wishful thinking.

944
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 8: If something dramatic happens where the Bucks, like, I think

945
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 8: the Bucks would have to tell him definitively, you know what,

946
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 8: we can't get to where you want us to get

947
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 8: to in short order. And I don't see them doing that.

948
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 8: So and I also don't expect that, like if they're

949
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 8: not a championship contender out of the gate next year,

950
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 8: that he's going to change.

951
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: His mind and say I need to be elsewhere. I

952
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: don't get.

953
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 8: Any any indication that he is so thirsty for sort

954
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 8: of on the Lebron James model of I'm supposed to

955
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 8: be playing for a championship every year and if not,

956
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 8: then I'm going to hold it over your head. I

957
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 8: do not get that from you, honest. And if he

958
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 8: and if he did do that, it would be the

959
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 8: first time that an international player failed. He did hold

960
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 8: their feet to the fire to get Damian Lillard's and

961
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 8: I think that, unlike a lot of guys, he recognized,

962
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 8: you know what, I had a part in that, and

963
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 8: I might have been wrong about I don't know how

964
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 8: that turned out. And so now he's allowing the Milwaukee

965
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 8: Bucks to do their jobs, and I commend him for

966
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 8: all of that.

967
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm I am.

968
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 8: I will be thrilled if if my expectation comes comes true,

969
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 8: which is that he's going to stay in Milwaukee, because

970
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 8: he's one part and parcel. He's the reason, at least

971
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 8: partly the reason why they are where they are, and

972
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 8: to me, if he wins another ring there, or he

973
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 8: chases another ring and he gets them close, or wins

974
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 8: one that will be more than going someplace else with

975
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 8: absolutely no guarantee.

976
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: That that he's going to the second one.

977
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: The the probably most interesting thing that happened at the

978
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: draft was the Ace Bailey deal. Yeah, what are your

979
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: thoughts on how that ended up?

980
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 8: Well, classic, whether it's Danny or Austin that told the trigger,

981
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 8: it's an it's an age trademark to say, Hey, I'm

982
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 8: going to do what's best and I'm not going to

983
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 8: get let feelings or someone's feelings dictate to me what

984
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 8: we do here. But I think the whole thing was

985
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 8: it doesn't leave me with a good feeling about Ace

986
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 8: Bailey or his representation, because while I think he's extremely talented,

987
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 8: the idea that he would prefer going to the Washington

988
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 8: Wizards over the Utah Jazz I just look.

989
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: At those two organizations.

990
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 8: I go, then you're not about what equality, how a

991
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 8: quality franchises run like it's about something else. It's about

992
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 8: your roles. And I don't know that you're good enough

993
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 8: to be worried about your role. I think I might

994
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 8: have tweeted it out there that it gives me cam

995
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 8: reddish vibes where supremely, supremely talented but worried about all

996
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 8: the wrong things. And when he's up there and saying, hey,

997
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 8: I don't worry about this. My team takes care of that,

998
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 8: and I'm about basketball, i'mlake. That gave me the Jay

999
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 8: Williams talking about his brand after he was drafted by

1000
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 8: the Chicago Bulls before wrapping a motorcycle around a telephone pole. Dude,

1001
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 8: the NBA is hard to be successful in, and there

1002
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 8: is a handful of guys who come along and are.

1003
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: So so talented.

1004
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 8: No matter where they go, no matter what they do,

1005
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 8: they are going to be a success. And even those

1006
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 8: like a Victor Wembinyama, you know, the chances are better

1007
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 8: that he's going to fulfill his potential because of his

1008
00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 8: combination of confidence and humility. So I just I understand

1009
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 8: why Utah did it. I think they saw an asset,

1010
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 8: They believe that the kid might grow up, didn't see

1011
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 8: a better option for where they were picking and where

1012
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 8: they're what their timeline is. But I you know, I

1013
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 8: color me a skeptic of Vailey right now based on

1014
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 8: what I've seen.

1015
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: He's Rick Buker. He's never short of the opinions, but

1016
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: they're based on over twenty years of covering the NBA.

1017
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: The guy's the best. Buke, thanks so much for joining us.

1018
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it.

1019
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: My pleasures do