WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Time Without Trevon 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:03.080 The following. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.080 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:06.560 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.840 Cowboys. 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:17.200 This He's Talking Cowboys, ringing live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.919 World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.880 Streaks six seconds. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.440 That's got pisis any paint textown? 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:32.560 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:38.839 and Kyle Yeomans. It's time for us say you with 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:40.600 your chest for Friday. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.320 Here on Talking Cowboys. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.720 Presented by the Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:47.160 of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.600 Good Morning Cowboys Nation. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.960 It's time to talk about the boys. There's a lot 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.479 to talk. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:54.560 About, unfortunately. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.760 There is a lot, unfortunately to talk about before we 0:00:57.800 --> 0:00:59.360 get into it. And I don't want to waste a 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.560 ton of time. I just want to comment on Isaiah's 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.200 shirt if we can get a one shot on this shirt. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.000 Oh, you're talking about this whole thing, right talking about 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.720 that that thing right there? Yeah, sit up straight. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.360 You've got Micah Parsons on the left his football card, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:14.399 really cool looking shirt. On the right it's the mud 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:20.360 Dogs and linebacker Bobby Bouchet. Who's better? 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:21.640 Is what the title is? 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:22.720 Over the time, too good. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.840 Who's better? Who would you rather have? Michael Parsons or 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:26.600 Bobby Bouchet. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:27.960 Only one has a ring? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:29.280 Who's that? 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:29.760 Bobby? 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:32.880 He does have a ring. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.240 I mean, when you think about it, both of these 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.600 guys are dominant. I mean when they're on the field, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:38.560 teams fear them. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.920 That's true. I'm just saying, kle it's true. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.440 I mean, when you thought about one dominant football player 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:45.960 in all the movies that you've ever watched, who you 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.160 think about? 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.960 I think about, uh, Willie Beaman first was nice, but 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.360 he wasn't dominant at first. Yeah, And I think about Bobby. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.639 Bobby Bouchet was. He was a dude. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.040 He was also Dwayne the Rock on The game Plan, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.040 You'll remember that movie. Whenever he was playing quarterback, he 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:03.840 just did it past to his receivers. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.559 But whenever it runs through people. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.720 Whenever I visualized Michael Parsons chasing down quarterbacks, I literally 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:10.600 think about Bobby Bouche. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:10.440 Like. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.440 Chasing him the whole way. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.040 That's what I envisioned. So I don't know that's how 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:15.560 my mind works. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.320 And Bobby Bouche played boundary corner. 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.720 I'm not really sure you like that Segway. You know 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.080 he could pokey an Eyebottle. Okay. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:25.960 So now now that the fund. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.840 Is out of the way and we've we've had some fun, 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.160 let's uh, let's turn our attention. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:30.760 To the not so fun. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.200 Yeah, let's not have any more fun. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.160 Yeah, Trayvon Digs trying to bit a smile on everybody's faces. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.120 No, I agree, it's to say it with your chest. Friday, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.200 We're supposed to come in with energy. But this one, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.680 this one stings. Yeah, it stings. Yeah, if anything, it hurts. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.120 Trayvon Digs out for the season. Torn a cl during 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.000 practice yesterday. Not exactly what we anticipated from open locker 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.960 room yesterday. The news rained down at about two o'clock 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:55.040 Central time, and. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.200 Of course the ensuing reports. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:00.160 Were not good for Trayvon once they saw him on 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.560 crutches in the locker room. Nick, you were in the 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.800 building yesterday just as much as as a lot of 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:08.680 the media was. I mean, what was the overall feeling 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:09.280 of what happened? 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:10.720 Yeah, I'll just kind of walk you through from my 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.120 perspective what happened, or at least here inside the building 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.960 caught wind of it. Man, it was this practice was 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.040 still going on, heard that Diggs had left off and 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.200 didn't look great, and then you know, me and Patrick Walker, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:27.359 former Talking Cowboys co host Patrick Walker trying to dig 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.680 on things and found out that it probably wasn't great. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.679 We were told it was. It was bad. He was 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.519 he asked a certain person good bad or really bad, 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.200 and he was told bad. And so we're, you know, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.560 going into this whole whole deal with caution for sure. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.960 And then saw Treyvon Digs on crutches walking past the 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.480 locker room or popping past the locker room during the 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.120 open locker room portion for media, and then wasn't too 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.160 long after that he had his MRI and confirmed that 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.440 it was a clean ACL tear on his left knee. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.280 Very unfortunate, I mean, especially when you look at practice 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.200 injuries that have happened so far this season, just since 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.840 the season has started with Tyler Smith and then I'm 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.720 sure we'll get into it and Tyler Biattish as well 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.720 a tweaked to hamstring yesterday. So uh, this is pretty devastating. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.040 It it doesn't put the Cowboys out of contention for 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.640 anything that they were already in contention for, Like, don't 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.640 get me wrong, if anything, it just puts the secondary 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.760 right back in the same exact situation that they were 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.799 last year, except Defon Gilmore is now that reliable corner 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.640 on the outside, except instead of Trayvon Diggs. But it's 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.120 gonna be kind of a rotating door and so you 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.080 figure out who's going to be the reliable guy on 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.000 that boundary. I mean, that's something we'll get into too. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.760 I think that's a fun conversation. But for Trayvon specifically 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.719 a man, it's really tough. I mean, not only was 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.400 this week his birthday. He was planning on going to Beyonce. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.360 Last night, he had a sweet rented out for him 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.599 and his friends, and you know, his his day just 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.960 didn't go as he planned. And so I guess the 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:48.839 bright news that you can take away from everything it 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:50.960 was a clean tear, and that's what doctors prefer whenever 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.640 they go in for the surgery, so you know, hopefully 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.000 that'll help for a speedier recovery. He won't be back 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.120 this season, you know, there's there's there's no way he can, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.880 but should be should be ready time for training camp 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.000 next year, And just kind of knowing Trayvon's mentality, I 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.400 think that's very realistic that he'll be ready to go 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.440 day one and aux our next season. But you know, 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.400 even if the Cowboys are able to go and eclipse 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.360 this journey and carbe Omnius sees everything, it's still gonna 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.160 be a little bit of, you know, bittersweet in the 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.000 back of your head, knowing that Trayvon Diggs wasn't on 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:17.960 the field for this journey. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.080 Yeah, it's really not much more to add to that. 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:24.320 It sucks, man, injuries sucked. They're gonna I mean, I 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.839 definitely feel for him. I've had my fair share of injuries, 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.440 things that have put me out for a lapse strad 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.240 of time, and a cl is nothing to scoff at 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.680 a real injury. It's not one that necessarily, you know, 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:43.480 technology in the medicine field has necessarily improved upon you know, astronomically, 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:46.520 you still have to wait, you know, a period of time, 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.240 and you still got to go through the down downfalls 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.240 and the mental strain and the dark places. So definitely, 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.680 prayers up for him and his journey back is going 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.000 to be a frustrating one. He's gonna need a ton 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.440 of support it. 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.080 I don't know. I guess I was gonna say if it. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:09.520 Does help in any regard that it's happening now so 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:12.720 he can actually still be feel a part of the team. 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.560 The worst thing is like when the stuff happens towards 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.560 the end of the year and then everybody leaves, you 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.520 know what I mean, Like everybody leaves and you're just 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.600 there with the trainers every day doing your thing. Everybody's 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.400 you know, everybody's traveling around the country and everything, you know, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.880 going on vacations and kicking it and doing all the stuff, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.440 and you feel super isolated. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.560 You know, at least during the year. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.840 I'm trying to find a positive in it, right, at 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.040 least during the year, you're in the meeting room, you're 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.040 you're with your boys. You know, you're walking past the 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.520 locker room. You're still seeing your guys every single day. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.760 And that's gonna take up a good portion of his rehab, 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.920 you know. I mean, he's going to be in the 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.359 mix for a good portion of his rehab in the 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.080 building with everybody else in the building. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:53.839 And that helps. That helps. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.080 And I know if people are going to probably say 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.720 I'm crazy, but like, trust me, it helps when you 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.599 have everybody else around you versus you just being isolated. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.800 And to that point, fortunately or unfortunately, he's not alone 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.880 in the fact that he's recovering from a torn ACL. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.480 He's the fourth torn ACL since the start of training. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.600 Game you got rookie tied in John Stevens, rookie linebacker 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.640 to Marvion Overshown, and then rookie receiver David Dirtin, all 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.720 of them recovering from twenty acls. We've kind of seen 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.600 John Stevens really early in the morning getting work out 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.680 there looks like he just had surgery, and then de 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.120 Marvion Overshown just had surgery this week as well. So 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.240 maybe similar timelines if Dix is able to get the 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.400 surgery done in two or three weeks once the swelling 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:31.800 goes down. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.600 And I think this is it's a shock, not only 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.800 to Trayvon, because of the way that he was playing. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.080 I mean, he was going, at least through the first 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.880 two weeks of the season, was playing his best ball. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.480 He was being his playing his best ball as a 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.000 coverage corner. He was playing his best ball as a 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.600 takeaway machine. I mean he forced to fumble in week one, 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.000 had an interception in week two. He was trending in 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.880 the right direction for his career year, career best year. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:57.800 And this is talking about a guy who had eleven 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.400 interceptions two years ago, had eleven picks two years ago, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:02.760 and he was playing his best football. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:03.880 That's how good he was. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.320 Even Mike McCarthy saying it this morning said it's just awful. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.640 He was just playing off the charts and that's the 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.800 way he practices too. Obviously, a big blow. Your heart 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.080 goes out to Trayvon. This is our first big shot 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.880 of adversity. This is a real punch to the gut 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.800 and a lot of fans out there might have questions 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.880 on how this happens in practice. I mean you mentioned 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.440 it already, Tyler Smith going down, Tyler Biatch, a little bang, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:30.280 Doug Travon Diggs going down. In terms of just practice alone, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.960 Donovan Wilson first practice of training camp. I mean, it 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.720 happens practice. Injuries do happen, But this is a reoccurring 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.120 theme this year. Mike McCarthy talked about that this morning too, 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.160 and I'm reading this straight off of John and showed 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.360 his Twitter, but he said this is on the one 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.800 on one drill that Diggs was doing whenever the injury happened. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.920 It's a skilled development that always goes on, especially with 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.400 limited time in training camp one on one drills or 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.880 something that defensive backs and receivers need. Everything you do 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.520 in the passing game is based on time clocks, so 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.120 those reps are necessary, not doing red zone one on one. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.960 I don't see that drill as a high risk itself. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.840 It's just one of those unfortunate things that happen when 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.280 two guys are competing for the ball. That can happen 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.920 in any drill at any time. So that's that's McCarthy's 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.520 thought process. So if you're a fan out there and 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.959 you're saying, what are these guys doing in practice, it's 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.120 nothing different than what they've done in practice throughout their careers. 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.560 Happened, just the injuries happen. There's nothing I get it. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.680 I mean, it's just a bad run, right, I mean 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.560 you talk about four acls on one team. Your eyebrows 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.160 kind of if your eyebrows don't raise up, then something's 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.360 probably wrong with you. So you definitely perk up and 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.600 try to figure out, Okay, what's what's going on? Is 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.960 our training? Is it our is it our our workload? 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.880 And maybe it's not enough. Early on, like you start 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.360 you question everything. Whenever used to have that consistent of 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.120 an injury issue across the board. You know, talk about 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.720 receiver tight end, We have receiver tight end, cornerback, and 0:09:57.840 --> 0:09:58.760 what was the last linebacker? 0:09:58.920 --> 0:09:59.360 Linebacker? 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.640 I mean, it's crossing the board now, so it's not 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.559 it's not positions specific. So you do start questioning your 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.000 you know, what have you done this offseason that's different 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.600 than any other year? What have you done in terms 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.280 of training camp that you that you haven't done any 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.160 other year. So you definitely go back and you do 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.240 your homework. That's the strength that's the strength staff, that's 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.520 the rehabilitation staff, that's the you know, the dietitians. Everybody's 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.400 going to go back and figure out, Okay, did we 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:22.560 do anything different? 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.640 Is it our surfaces? Is it the cleats? 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:24.840 Is it? 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:25.000 Like? 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:25.560 What is it? 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.520 You know what I mean, you have to do it. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.880 You have to go back and unveil some things. But 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.760 injuries happen, you know, injuries happen. It just it just sucks. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.160 You know, you don't wish it upon to anybody. No, 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.360 it's a part of the game, it really is. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.200 And I think another side of this too, for for 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.959 tray Von is he was a key member. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.360 Of possibly one of the best defenses in NFL history. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.280 We've talked about it. That is a potential. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.120 We're two weeks in. Yes, I know, we're only two 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.680 weeks in. There's a lot of football left to be played. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.559 But based off of what this team has done through 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.440 the first two weeks, what the expectations were coming into 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.880 the year, there was a ceiling for this defense that 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.960 is an all time great defense with the legion of Boom, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.439 with the seventies Steelers, with the eighty five Bears, they 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.080 have a chance to be that good this defense does. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.640 Even without Trayvon, they can still get. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.240 To a generational type defense. I completely believe that they 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.240 still have an elite level pass rush. You have more 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.560 depth in the secondary than you ever have in this building, 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.360 I would argue. Ever Ever, in general, the one thing 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.560 that really hurts though as football fans, not just Cowboys fans, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.839 but football fans, it's the fact that even if they 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.600 do reach the ceiling of being categorized as a generational defense, 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.800 they're still not reaching the ceiling they would with Trayvon Diggs. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:44.600 It's still never going to be as. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.880 Good as it could have been because Seven's not on 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.560 the field, and that's what I think hurts the most, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.040 at least from a team standpoint. It's of course you're 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.720 hurting for the players. Trayvon Diggs prayers up and there's 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.920 a lot of people throughout the league, including guys on 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.320 the Eagles, former players, current players, doesn't matter. Along the 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.160 wild everybody is saying the same thing, prayers up to 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.040 Trayvon Diggs, and everybody feels for the player itself. But 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.120 as a team and as a fan base, this is 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.599 a defense that has a chance to be absolutely legendary, 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.600 but it's still not going to be as good because 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.240 Travon Dis is not on the field, and that that 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.560 is you feel robbed as a football fan in doing that. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.160 Yeah, and I think you're gonna really feel the pain 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.360 of him not being in the game whenever they have 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.240 to go up against these really talented receiving cores that 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.760 have a big body guy that would be perfect for 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.800 Trayvon Dis to match up against. The first team that 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.679 comes to mind is Philly A. J. Brown being able 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.280 to ride up on him and just put a body 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.320 on him. And you know Gilmore has the opportunity to 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:37.960 do that. But you also got Davonte Smiths to cover, 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:39.679 and you also got Dallas Goddard to cover. I mean, 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.679 you know there's there's there's other guys to cover. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:42.840 Already a challenge. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.120 It was already a challenge for sure, but like you 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:46.800 know that just that just takes it one step back 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.760 and you just kind of got to readjust from there. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.199 But Deron Bland sounds like he's gonna be the guy 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.320 that moves out the boundary. Jordan Lewis, he's he's ready 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.320 to go. All right, let's go man. So he's gonna 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.240 go right there in the nickel and he's gonna get 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.720 his full workload, assume as early as this week, and 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:02.600 we'll see how that goes. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.240 Do you feel like you need to go get somebody else? 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.400 Not right now for a couple of reasons. Let's say 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.200 Deron Bland does not work out on the boundary. You 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:12.800 have a Nashan Wright that's going to be coming off 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:14.280 the ir here in a couple of weeks. You know, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.960 that's that's an opportunity to try out. You also have 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.680 Noah Igbinoghan. He brought him in. He's a boundary guy 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.480 that you can try out that in that place as well, 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.320 they have three guys that they can play with to 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.120 put a boundary and see if one of them can 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.800 be that reliable option. I think it's very worthy for 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.360 Deron Bland to be able to be the first guy 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.480 to get that opportunity, just because of what he was 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.440 able to do last year stepping in at Nickel and 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.160 having that kind of opportunity and being able to seize it. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.280 And now that Jordan Lewis is here to take his 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.600 job back, de Ron Bland he could just move right 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.320 over and man if he could be a safety net 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:43.800 at boundary and plays just as well as he did 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.000 in the Nickel last year, man's a sign that man 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.079 extending that man. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.680 I completely agree. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.480 I think, man, you look across the board in terms 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.360 of the depth of this secondary. Any other team in 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.600 the NFL loses an all pro corner all of a sudden, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.680 you're saying they're done, They're toast. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.440 They're gonna have some depth issues. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.760 Corners a lot like offensive line in ways where the 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.839 depth isn't always there. I mean, it's hard to find 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.040 really good shutdown corners. Stefan Gilmour is gonna have to 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.920 step up too, and he's on the back end of 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:15.360 his career. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:16.720 He's not playing, of course. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.319 At the same level as he did when he was 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.840 a defensive Player of the Year, but he is a 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.400 solid corner one. He has been a corner one throughout 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.120 his career, so he's gonna have to step up and 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.240 fill that role initially, but behind him, I do have confidence. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.720 I think to Ron Bland might play better on the 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.120 outside than it does in the inside. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.320 Jordan Lewis looks healthy coming back from injury. 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.080 I'm excited to see him get some reps, and I 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.880 think it all just kind of fits into place based 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.240 off of the way this roster was built and based 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:41.480 off of. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.520 The investment they've made at the cornerback position. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:48.280 Yeah, I would base it off of mean I need 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.120 to see Naean, Yeah, I really need to see Naean. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.920 I believe that Dron Bland is very capable. I think 0:14:55.960 --> 0:15:00.000 he's obviously an excellent nickel corner. Obviously, you know Jay Lewis, 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.160 so that's that obviously cuts down into his reps. So 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.840 he has a versatility to bump out. But is that 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.200 what I believe that he does best. I don't think so. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.280 I don't think that's his most effective position. So I 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:16.000 think you need for a dan Quinn style. I think 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.920 you still need the long, lanky guy, and so I 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.040 think you know that's not taking anything away from durn 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.640 Bland at all, but he just doesn't have the size 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:25.440 of a Trayvon. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.480 He doesn't have the size of a nay Sean. So 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:28.320 you need to see how. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.600 Nayseeon runs back and an impact that he has or 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.640 doesn't have, and then from there, I think you have 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.080 to make your decision on whether or not you need 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.320 to bring in an additional guy, because to your point, 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:37.960 the teams that you're going to have to beat have 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.240 multiple people, and you're gonna need multiple people. You know, 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.160 Deron Bland is probably gonna need to be on the 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.160 inside when you go out and die. He's you're gonna 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.800 need him on the inside. Yeah, he's not gonna want 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.280 him on the outside. You're gonna want Hi him and 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.600 Jay Lou, you know, Garden whoever it is on the inside, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.640 and you want some bigger guys on outside, give more 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.560 and who U So Nashan comes down and takes her 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.040 business thing all right in the boxes check. But you still, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.400 you know there's a couple of guys that are free 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.960 agency that are going to be higher dollar guys. Obviously, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.600 the price always goes up whenever teams are in need. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.040 There's there's probably a guy that then I would take 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.760 a peek at that. Most Cowboys fans probably would not 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.440 want to hear. But I think I think Byron. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.120 Oh, that was not who I was expecting. 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.880 I don't think Cowboys fans would be as upset about 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.200 that as anything. I mean, I think you're well here 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.400 Anthony Brown with the same friend this week. Yeah, but 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.720 he got released released already. That's not a good SI yesterday. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.520 That's not a good That's not a good sign. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:39.480 So so I would say Byron Jones, so my initial 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.040 thought was a B. But he got picked up a 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.560 couple of days ago, being released a quickly, it's not 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:44.120 a good sign. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.600 A couple of names out there, Kyle Fuller, I believe 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:47.640 it is still out on the block. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.680 Casey Hayward's out there much just like that athleticism, but 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.880 some of those guys are older. Those guys are older, right, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.440 you know you're talking about you know, Byron Jones, I 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.800 think he's still just thirty. He has to size athleticism 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.920