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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hunt. That's Giants, Giants,

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Speaker 1: give me some jobs.

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Speaker 2: Part of the Giants podcast Network. Let's welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Giants Little podcasts, all brought to you by Citizens the

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Speaker 2: official bank of the Giants, John Schmelk. Every Tuesday, we're

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Speaker 2: joined by the one and only Sean O'Hara and Sewan

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Speaker 2: Coming off that forty lost to the Dallas Cowboys with

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Speaker 2: seven sacks allowed, twelve official quarterback hits. Unofficially, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: got hit a lot more than that perfect guy to

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Speaker 2: talk to you about offensive line play. So let's start

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Speaker 2: broadly here. When you watch the Giants offensive line in

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Speaker 2: that Week one matchup, what'd you say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was a tough performance. I think

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Speaker 1: obviously Week one Saday Night football to draw the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: That defense, that's a tough draw. I mean you saw

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Speaker 1: the explosiveness, a lot of great different exotic looks as well, but.

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Speaker 2: And frankly speed and a lot of guys. I mean

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Speaker 2: they just throw waves and waves Like Sam Williams is

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Speaker 2: their fourth or fifth pass rusher. That dude looked really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even in that first drive they wrote like halfway

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Speaker 1: through the drive, there was a whole fresh new set

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Speaker 1: of defensive lineman. There was four new guys out there,

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Speaker 1: so they did a good job rotating that. But you

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Speaker 1: know you mentioned it. Look, it was ugly. There's no

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Speaker 1: there's no way to sugarcoat this. It was a really

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Speaker 1: a tough performance down across the line, really, and you

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Speaker 1: can't say it was just one guy had a rough game. No,

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Speaker 1: every offensive lineman had a couple of plays in there

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Speaker 1: that they wish they could have had back. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: the seven sacks. As an offensive lineman, when you have

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Speaker 1: seven sacks, it's not only that game is it tough

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Speaker 1: to recover from. That's tough to recover for the whole year.

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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you know, teams will go seven games

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Speaker 1: with seven sacks, So to start out the season with that,

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Speaker 1: you know you're you're finding uphill battle or the entire

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Speaker 1: season to try to recover from that. I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing that jumped out on me was the inability

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Speaker 1: to allow Daniel Jones to set his feet in the pocket.

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Speaker 1: It created issues the entire game and the first drive alone,

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Speaker 1: you know, you could start see some of the pressure.

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Speaker 1: Daniel scrambled a couple of times there were a couple

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Speaker 1: of unblocked defenders. But then you know, even as the

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Speaker 1: game progressed, you know, there was a first down play

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Speaker 1: action pass play. It was a two man route protection

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Speaker 1: NAX protection. Those absolutely should be a big play at

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Speaker 1: worse than incompletion, but it can't be a sack. Now.

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Speaker 1: Part of that was the tight end Daniel Bellinger. So

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Speaker 1: as much as these sacks always get attributed to the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, Daniel Bellinger did not really do a good

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Speaker 1: job blocking on that play, and Bretterson and John Michael

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Speaker 1: Schmidz seemed to kind of get lost and Glewinsky as

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Speaker 1: well as far as who had the nose guard on

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Speaker 1: that play. So there were a number of things correct

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Speaker 1: from a technique standpoint. Let's start with the right side.

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Speaker 1: Evan Neil. I think the one thing that he struggled

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Speaker 1: with coming out of college was being too top heavy

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Speaker 1: and too many times he was on the ground or

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Speaker 1: he was bending at the waist and that got him

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Speaker 2: With the speed rush, they were just attacking his outside

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that speed rush is probably his biggest fear,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's What gets him in trouble sometimes

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Speaker 1: out and cover up that rusher, and then he gets

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Speaker 1: off balance. And I think that was one of the struggles.

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Speaker 1: There were some good things that I thought he did

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Speaker 1: the run game, they were very physical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually thought they'd run blocked pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And again, yeah, I just didn't get enough opportunities to

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Speaker 1: things changed really quick. There's a Mike Twice Entyson quote

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Speaker 1: about that, you know, everybody's got a game plan until

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Speaker 1: they get popped in the mouth. I think that was

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Speaker 1: definitely a product of that, a byproduct, if you will.

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Speaker 1: But that first drive, you know, there were some really

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Speaker 2: That a lot of gap scheme in that first drive,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was. There was a lot of pulling the

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Speaker 1: that's one of the things you do to try to

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Speaker 1: equalize a player like that. You run at him and

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Speaker 1: you know, you give give somebody an angle on the

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Speaker 1: blocking with that. I thought on that fourth and one

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Speaker 1: That's the toughest block has a center to do, and

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Speaker 1: Lewinsky he had a rough game as well, and there

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the initial rush, it was the counter move

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Speaker 1: he was just a little bit slow getting you know,

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Speaker 1: the change of direction and power stepping in and actually

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Speaker 1: he went to punch on the second move, and Michael

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Speaker 2: Which is, by the way, why Dallas tries to get

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Speaker 2: Parsons wind up on guards, right, They're not built to

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Speaker 1: As they did just that, they moved him around. He

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Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas of course that false start, which you know

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Speaker 1: there's a little gray area there, you know, on the

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Speaker 1: like the start of the unraveling, and then that moved

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Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. On Thursday night football that

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Speaker 2: would not have been a penalty for one reason. On

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night football, that was a pedal.

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Speaker 1: John Taylor got away with about five to six times.

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Speaker 1: So I think that might have been clearly a memo

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Speaker 1: we don't want this to become a narrative.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, technically was the correct call.

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Speaker 1: Just for the rest, there was definitely a little premature

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Speaker 1: move and it was Michah Parsons that he was going again.

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Speaker 1: So that's the Micah Parsons effect that here you have

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Speaker 1: this stud rusher and he's so explosive on that first

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Speaker 1: step that you know sometimes office lineman, can you know,

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Speaker 1: just get a little eager. So I think they're there.

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Speaker 1: Those are all correctable things. And I think to your

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Speaker 1: if the game, if it was still a one score game,

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Speaker 1: if you're down three nothing, or if you're down you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, by six points and it's a one score game,

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Speaker 1: you could still say balanced. And I think that there

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Speaker 1: was just never any rhythm after that first drive. There

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Speaker 1: was never any rhythm, nothing ever strung together after that

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Speaker 1: first drive. I think they went three and out, you know,

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Speaker 2: You had the three three times yep on the.

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Speaker 1: Saquan drop, and so you just didn't stay out there.

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Speaker 1: There were no first downs converts, so you could never

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Speaker 1: get into that rhythm. But I think going back and

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Speaker 1: looking at the film John. There were opportunities to throw

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Speaker 1: the football down the field. There were guys Darius Slayton

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Speaker 1: ran right by Treyvon Diggs on a play action pass

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Speaker 1: play and if Daniel Jones had time to set his feet,

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Speaker 1: it could have been a big play. There were a

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Speaker 1: couple of times where I thought that the bulletz pick

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Speaker 1: or the other. Leydon vander esh came in on a

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Speaker 1: couple of blitzes, and I think that creates some havoc.

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Speaker 1: But the NFL is a copycat league, and what everybody's

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Speaker 1: doing right now, what Arizona's doing is looking at those

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Speaker 1: blitzes and those fronts and those stunts, and they're saying,

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Speaker 1: fire out, and you have to put it out quickly

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Speaker 1: otherwise teams are going to continue to do it. So

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Speaker 1: there's certainly a lot of room for improvement from that.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody's you know, the week one reaction is

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Speaker 1: is not an indicator. I call it sloppy September for

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Speaker 1: a reason. The first two weeks of the season. It's

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Speaker 1: the sloppiest football you will see all season long. And

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Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. The preseason is shortened. Guys

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Speaker 1: don't get as many reps in that, so you're seeing

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Speaker 1: the blocking and tackling suffer from that. I think this

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Speaker 1: is a prideful group. I think Bobby Johnson is gonna,

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Speaker 1: to work and let's get back to the fundamentals. Because

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Speaker 1: the reality is this is a good group. But if

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Speaker 1: also that was the first game they've ever played together,

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Speaker 2: What did you think of Schmitz's overall performance. You mentioned

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Speaker 2: a couple of players where I know you thought he

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Speaker 2: did a good job.

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Speaker 1: I thought Schmids was really stout and this was a

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Speaker 1: This was a good defensive front. Jonathan Hankins is a

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: They throw a lot at you from a look, standpoint movement,

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Speaker 1: a lot of stunts and even there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of five downlooks with a gap pressure and stunts included

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Speaker 1: in that pressure. I thought he did a pretty decent

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Speaker 1: job for his first start in the NFL. I thought physically,

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Speaker 1: he looked the part I mentioned the run game where

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Speaker 1: he had some nice blocks on the reach block, there

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Speaker 1: was some nice combo blocks. He did a nice job

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Speaker 1: blocking back on some of the guard polls.

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Speaker 2: He shealed off an inside linebacker. I think getting to

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Speaker 2: which is good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did a nice job with that. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, ultimately as a center though, if you have

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Speaker 1: a bad snap like that in a game like that's

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Speaker 1: the one thing that driving home you just you're harping on.

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Speaker 2: So is that a wet ball thing you think?

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Speaker 1: Or it almost looked to me like the ball, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it slipped out. It was a little low like coming

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Speaker 1: out of hand, you know. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he maybe wasn't sure some times, oddly enough, sometimes at

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Speaker 1: the center there's a momentary lapse where you're like, is

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Speaker 1: you can kind of be in that gray area. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's something that is fixable and I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's where it started, and that was

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Speaker 2: And he was fortunate on that one pass over the

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Speaker 1: You don't want to Yeah, that was clearly a factor,

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Speaker 1: That's not the way that's and but you know, even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of quick game, a lot

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Speaker 2: Find a question, Sean. You've probably been through a game

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Speaker 1: I think the players right now to everybody realize there's

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Speaker 1: you know, we won one and oh seven starting out

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Speaker 1: ohing to you don't that's not ideal. You don't want that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the first couple of weeks of the season,

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Speaker 1: I think the number one thing is, look this, the

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Speaker 1: NFL is tough. It's tough to win football games. You

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Speaker 1: can't beat yourself. And the Giants played sloppy football. They

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Speaker 1: turn the ball over. You can't give up a block

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Speaker 1: field goal for a touchdown. That that's just technique. Those

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Speaker 1: are all things that are correctable. But you have to

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Speaker 1: you have to face it. You got to face the music.

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Speaker 1: And I think for for this entire staff, I think

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Speaker 1: they trust that hey, look we're in the right spot.

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Speaker 1: We can get it done. But as a player, you're

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Speaker 1: getting paid to go out and play an execu you

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Speaker 1: gotta go do it.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Sean, thanks, you appreciate it. Man. We'll figure

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Speaker 2: out how to do this. Next week. I'll be in Arizona,

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Speaker 2: you'll be here, but we'll make it happen.

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Speaker 1: And our eyes will be bleeding. It'll be a late

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Speaker 1: night yes, and at week yes.

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Speaker 2: It'll be fun. Though. As the Giants get ready to

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Speaker 2: take on the Cardinals, I think the hope is that

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Speaker 2: we look back at this game Sean in week seventeen

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Speaker 2: and hopefully knock on woo. The Giants are going into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. For I like boy, that really was an admiration.

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Speaker 2: There's still no explanation as to how that happened, and

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Speaker 2: that now is the goal as you move forward into

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Speaker 2: the rest, sign us up for that of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: For showing hair, I'm John Schmulk. That's it for the

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